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Title:		Hunter's Birthday
Date:		Tuesday May 7, 2013
Time:		12:00 am - 12:00 am (GMT-05.00) Eastern Time (US & Canada)
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Another week, another Friday and another new LESSON FROM THE LAWGIVER is now available. Thanks to Glen and everyone who contributed.

To read the LESSON click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: https://pota.ediaarchive.com/LFTL.htm.

Have a great weekend and Mother's Day everybody!

Visit all the Group's special features including:

• The Group Website - Original POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much more.
• Marvel Archive - Online archive of Marvel Comics' adaptations of the original POTA movies.
• Cornelius' Journal - The Memoirs of Dr. Cornelius.
• Ape City Chronicles - The First 75 years of Ape City's history, written by Virgil.
• The Illustrated Monkey Planet - Hungarian comic adaptation of Pierre Boulle's original novel.
• The Mendez Dynasty - Keepers of the Divine Bomb.
• The Ape - Ape City's Weekly Newspaper.
• POTA Locations - The places where the POTA films were shot.
• The Art Gallery - Works of POTA Art by our members.
• The Database Section - POTA info ranging from Characters to Comics.

Quite a capture! So the story advances with
horseback riding CGI performers. Wonder if there
will be a combination of CGI apes, and latex type
appliance apes?

I've been having e-mail troubles lately but I've got to give an attaboy to Al Ruiz. Nobody has worked harder to provide info on the recent "Rise of the POTA" and now "Dawn". I've just been pleased and incredibly grateful of his coverage of his fave movies starting with POTA2001. I don't think Al gets the credit he deserves. Now it looks like his "Dawn" updates have been booted off Twitter. I don't know why but it's ridiculous (even Zauis would think so). Meanwhile, you can check out www.riseoftheplanetoftheapes for the latest. And thank you Al!

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I'm SO encouraged by this image. If there is even a nod to green chimp clothes, I may burst! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Pawfan" <teddypawpad@...> wrote:
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>
> Quite a capture! So the story advances with
> horseback riding CGI performers. Wonder if there
> will be a combination of CGI apes, and latex type
> appliance apes?
>

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Reminder from:		pota Yahoo! Group
Title:		James Bacon was born this day in 1914.
Date:		Sunday May 12, 2013
Time:		12:00 am - 12:00 am (GMT-05.00) Eastern Time (US & Canada)
Notes:		Is the only actor to appear in all five films in the 'Planet of the Apes' series. He played an ape in all of them except for Escape in which he played a human, General Faulkner. It was also the only one of the films in which he was credited.
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actually that is Roddy and Kim, although Bill and Paula did very good, this is Obviously Roddy and Kim.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, William Burge <billburge48@...> wrote:
>
> dear group, I found the actors who dressed up as corneilus and zira-- what a likeness the date around 75 or 76 --enjoy from william
>

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Title:		Tom Scott and Tim Roth's Birthday
Date:		Tuesday May 14, 2013
Time:		12:00 am - 12:00 am (GMT-05.00) Eastern Time (US & Canada)
Notes:		Tom Scott wrote the score for Conquest.
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This is no shocker, because of Michael Giacchino's relationship with director Matt Reeves and Reeves' childhood buddy J. J. Abrams, but Giacchino tweeted that he's doing the music for "Dawn of the POTA". I've been a fan of his since "Alias" a decade ago. He was doing video game music when J. J. Abrams invited him aboard "Alias". He went on to be Abrams' main composer of TV ("Alias", "Lost", "Fringe") and movies ("Mission: Impossible 3", "Star Trek", "Super 8", "Star Trek Into Darkness"). Matt Reeves did "Cloverfield" for J. J. and Giacchino did the end credit music and now it looks like Giacchino and Reeves are a team too ("Let Me In"). Giacchino is also the main composer for Pixar and won the Oscar for "Up".
Giacchino is one of my faves and when "Rise" was gearing up I asked him if he was going to do it. I'd heard he was a POTA fan and he told me he is, he loves all of it; the movies, the TV show, the cartoons. But he wasn't asked to do "Rise". I loved Patrick Doyle's music for "Rise" and would have been happy if he returned. But I love Giacchino's stuff too and can't wait to hear what he comes up with (maybe his closest would be "Lost" with it's jungle boogie/sci-fi weirdness). "Dawn" is Matt Reeve's film and it's his choice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgWMkUaGjWs

Here's my fave Giacchino track for a Matt Reeves film:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czEONwhiA3Q

Imdb has listed the editors for "Dawn of the POTA". They are William Hoy ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0398343/ ) and Stan Salfas ( http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0758159/ ). Salfas comes more from TV, but he's worked often with director Matt Reeves on "Felicity", "Let Me In" and his first flick "The Pallbearer". So he's a comfort zone for Reeves. Hoy has done movies like "Dances With Wolves", "Patriot Games", "We Were Soldiers" (which featured actress Keri Russell), "300" and "Watchmen", as well as some Fox action flicks like "Fantastic 4" and "I, Robot".
"Rise" had the benefit of James Cameron's editors Conrad Buff and Mark Goldblatt, just as it had WETA- friendly director of photography Andrew Lesnie. These were safe choices for movie that was something of an experiment (and with something of an inexperienced director). "Dawn" seems to be stretching it's legs more. It doesn't need as much of a safety net from particular experts.

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Reminder from:		pota Yahoo! Group
Title:		Bobby Porter's Birthday
Date:		Friday May 17, 2013
Time:		12:00 am - 12:00 am (GMT-05.00) Eastern Time (US & Canada)
Notes:		Cornelius in Battle
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Reminder from:		pota Yahoo! Group
Title:		Planet of the Apes published in 1963
Date:		Friday May 17, 2013
Time:		12:00 am - 12:00 am (GMT-05.00) Eastern Time (US & Canada)
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I guess May 17 is as close to a publication date that we have for Boulle's 1963 novel "Planet of the Apes". The date appears on the timeline for the 35th anniversary DVD of POTA68. That would be in France, I guess. The book arrived in the U.S. around the time of the JFK assassination.
Anyway, I guess a half century is something to go ape about. And things are looking good for the concept, it's still a big deal. It's a story that still resonates. Thank you, Pierre Boulle!

Good morning everyone! This week's LESSON FROM THE LAWGIVER is now online. Thanks to everyone who contributed.

To read the LESSON click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: https://pota.ediaarchive.com/LFTL.htm.

Have a great weekend!

Visit all the Group's special features including:

• The Group Website - Original POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much more.
• Marvel Archive - Online archive of Marvel Comics' adaptations of the original POTA movies.
• Cornelius' Journal - The Memoirs of Dr. Cornelius.
• Ape City Chronicles - The First 75 years of Ape City's history, written by Virgil.
• The Illustrated Monkey Planet - Hungarian comic adaptation of Pierre Boulle's original novel.
• The Mendez Dynasty - Keepers of the Divine Bomb.
• The Ape - Ape City's Weekly Newspaper.
• POTA Locations - The places where the POTA films were shot.
• The Art Gallery - Works of POTA Art by our members.
• The Database Section - POTA info ranging from Characters to Comics.

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We'll forgive the Trek connection if he turns in a good score. John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Giacchino also joins Goldsmith and Leonard Rosenman in doing both POTA and "Star Trek".
>
>
> From: Haristas@...
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 9:32 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: Composer Giacchino doing "Dawn of the POTA"
>
>
>
> This may not be a shocker, but it's the best news I've read so far about this production. This could be the closest thing to having Goldsmith back from the dead.
>
>

Apes is 50. And, arguably, never in better shape.GO APE!!! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I guess May 17 is as close to a publication date that we have for Boulle's 1963 novel "Planet of the Apes". The date appears on the timeline for the 35th anniversary DVD of POTA68. That would be in France, I guess. The book arrived in the U.S. around the time of the JFK assassination.
> Anyway, I guess a half century is something to go ape about. And things are looking good for the concept, it's still a big deal. It's a story that still resonates. Thank you, Pierre Boulle!
>

Come to the Hollywood Show, the largest autograph show in the Los Angeles area, at the Westin LAX July 12-13 to meet the cast of Planet of the Apes! Appearing will be: Ron Harper, Austin Stoker, Booth Coleman, Lee Delano, and Lou Wagner. In addition, there will be many other terrific stars to meet!

https://www.facebook.com/TheHollywoodShow
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Planet of the Apes cast will be at the Hollywood Show at the Westin LAX July 13-14 NOT 12-13! Sorry for the confusion!

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Reminder from:		pota Yahoo! Group
Title:		Escape premiered this day in 1971
Date:		Tuesday May 21, 2013
Time:		12:00 am - 12:00 am (GMT-05.00) Eastern Time (US & Canada)
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I don't know why, but the Japanese material always seems more FUN !! John, Scrolls.

Hi, all!

Believe it or not, after some seven years in the making, I've finally released the final Planet of the Apes Rarities DVD (aka Rarities 3)!!

For screenshots of each of the menus (and to see what's on the disc), visit my Apes site at the URL below:

https://pota.goatley.com/dvd/rarities3/

There are two ways you can get the DVDs:

- You can arrange with James to send him blank discs and return
postage, and he'll copy the discs and return them to you. If
you want to pursue this, contact James at JamesA1102@...

- You can purchase the blank DVDs from Greg P. For people in the
U.S., this works out to $3.50. NOTE: YOU ARE PAYING ONLY FOR
THE DISCS, THE PACKAGING, AND THE POSTAGE. ABSOLUTELY NO PROFIT
IS BEING DERIVED FROM THIS SET. You can send the money via PayPal
to Greg at urko3085@...

If you want the first two Rarities DVDs, $6 to Greg will get
you a set of all four discs. For non-U.S. residents, contact
Greg to work it out.

Many thanks to all of those who contributed the content for these discs. I honestly don't remember all the details of who contributed what, so I'm not even going to try to name names. They can step forward for the credit, if they want. But these discs wouldn't have been possible without them!!

Hunter

Is that a typo where it says Greg will send "blank" DVDs?

Is Greg still on the forum here? If so I just want to know how much for him to send a burned disc to me here in Canada.

Also, does anyone remember who made those DVD sleeves for the other rarities discs?

Thanks to Hunter, Greg and all who contributed with content and other duties!

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: "goatbusters" <goathunter@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 4:00:25 PM
Subject: [pota] Rarities DVD 3!!!






Hi, all!

Believe it or not, after some seven years in the making, I've finally released the final Planet of the Apes Rarities DVD (aka Rarities 3)!!

For screenshots of each of the menus (and to see what's on the disc), visit my Apes site at the URL below:

https://pota.goatley.com/dvd/rarities3/

There are two ways you can get the DVDs:

- You can arrange with James to send him blank discs and return
postage, and he'll copy the discs and return them to you. If
you want to pursue this, contact James at JamesA1102@...

- You can purchase the blank DVDs from Greg P. For people in the
U.S., this works out to $3.50. NOTE: YOU ARE PAYING ONLY FOR
THE DISCS, THE PACKAGING, AND THE POSTAGE. ABSOLUTELY NO PROFIT
IS BEING DERIVED FROM THIS SET. You can send the money via PayPal
to Greg at urko3085@...

If you want the first two Rarities DVDs, $6 to Greg will get
you a set of all four discs. For non-U.S. residents, contact
Greg to work it out.

Many thanks to all of those who contributed the content for these discs. I honestly don't remember all the details of who contributed what, so I'm not even going to try to name names. They can step forward for the credit, if they want. But these discs wouldn't have been possible without them!!

Hunter

Yes, I'm still on the forum!

That is a typo. The two discs will have the video burned to them.

For Canada it looks like an extra buck should cover the additional postage, so please send $4.50 via PayPal.

I think James did sleeves for the earlier two Rarities discs.

Greg P.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
>
>
> Is that a typo where it says Greg will send "blank" DVDs?
>
> Is Greg still on the forum here? If so I just want to know how much for him to send a burned disc to me here in Canada.
>
> Also, does anyone remember who made those DVD sleeves for the other rarities discs?
>
> Thanks to Hunter, Greg and all who contributed with content and other duties!
>
> Dario
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "goatbusters" <goathunter@...>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 4:00:25 PM
> Subject: [pota] Rarities DVD 3!!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi, all!
>
> Believe it or not, after some seven years in the making, I've finally released the final Planet of the Apes Rarities DVD (aka Rarities 3)!!
>
> For screenshots of each of the menus (and to see what's on the disc), visit my Apes site at the URL below:
>
> https://pota.goatley.com/dvd/rarities3/
>
> There are two ways you can get the DVDs:
>
> - You can arrange with James to send him blank discs and return
> postage, and he'll copy the discs and return them to you. If
> you want to pursue this, contact James at JamesA1102@...
>
> - You can purchase the blank DVDs from Greg P. For people in the
> U.S., this works out to $3.50. NOTE: YOU ARE PAYING ONLY FOR
> THE DISCS, THE PACKAGING, AND THE POSTAGE. ABSOLUTELY NO PROFIT
> IS BEING DERIVED FROM THIS SET. You can send the money via PayPal
> to Greg at urko3085@...
>
> If you want the first two Rarities DVDs, $6 to Greg will get
> you a set of all four discs. For non-U.S. residents, contact
> Greg to work it out.
>
> Many thanks to all of those who contributed the content for these discs. I honestly don't remember all the details of who contributed what, so I'm not even going to try to name names. They can step forward for the credit, if they want. But these discs wouldn't have been possible without them!!
>
> Hunter
>

In addition to being available on Hunter's site, the wraps for all 3 Rarities DVDs are available in the group's Files section inthe folder DVD Wraps: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/DVD%20Wraps/

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "gp3085" wrote:
>
> Yes, I'm still on the forum!
>
> That is a typo. The two discs will have the video burned to them.
>
> For Canada it looks like an extra buck should cover the additional postage, so please send $4.50 via PayPal.
>
> I think James did sleeves for the earlier two Rarities discs.
>
> Greg P.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola darios@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Is that a typo where it says Greg will send "blank" DVDs?
> >
> > Is Greg still on the forum here? If so I just want to know how much for him to send a burned disc to me here in Canada.
> >
> > Also, does anyone remember who made those DVD sleeves for the other rarities discs?
> >
> > Thanks to Hunter, Greg and all who contributed with content and other duties!
> >
> > Dario
> >

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Thanks James! I've already printed out my sleeve. Now to get the disc...

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:28:56 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Rarities DVD 3!!!








In addition to being available on Hunter's site, the wraps for all 3 Rarities DVDs are available in the group's Files section inthe folder DVD Wraps: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/DVD%20Wraps/

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "gp3085" wrote:
>
> Yes, I'm still on the forum!
>
> That is a typo. The two discs will have the video burned to them.
>
> For Canada it looks like an extra buck should cover the additional postage, so please send $4.50 via PayPal.
>
> I think James did sleeves for the earlier two Rarities discs.
>
> Greg P.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola darios@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Is that a typo where it says Greg will send "blank" DVDs?
> >
> > Is Greg still on the forum here? If so I just want to know how much for him to send a burned disc to me here in Canada.
> >
> > Also, does anyone remember who made those DVD sleeves for the other rarities discs?
> >
> > Thanks to Hunter, Greg and all who contributed with content and other duties!
> >
> > Da rio
> >

Done! Thanks Greg.

Now here's another question for everyone. Is anyone keeping track of what are on all these disks and if there is any way to keep track of what isn't on them for a new disc some day? I'm too lazy to sit down and list it all and then see if I can spot any missing stuff myself. I do try to keep copies of whatever new photos, videos, or merchandise I come across (ebay, etsy, etc). It never ends. I wish I had time to properly catalog it all, but for the time being it's all just sorted in many nested and directories in a somewhat hierarchical archive.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: "gp3085" <urko3085@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2013 9:22:10 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: Rarities DVD 3!!!



Yes, I'm still on the forum!

That is a typo. The two discs will have the video burned to them.

For Canada it looks like an extra buck should cover the additional postage, so please send $4.50 via PayPal.

I think James did sleeves for the earlier two Rarities discs.

Greg P.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com , Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
>
>
> Is that a typo where it says Greg will send "blank" DVDs?
>
> Is Greg still on the forum here? If so I just want to know how much for him to send a burned disc to me here in Canada.
>
> Also, does anyone remember who made those DVD sleeves for the other rarities discs?
>
> Thanks to Hunter, Greg and all who contributed with content and other duties!
>
> Dario
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "goatbusters" <goathunter@...>
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 4:00:25 PM
> Subject: [pota] Rarities DVD 3!!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi, all!
>
> Believe it or not, after some seven years in the making, I've finally released the final Planet of the Apes Rarities DVD (aka Rarities 3)!!
>
> For screenshots of each of the menus (and to see what's on the disc), visit my Apes site at the URL below:
>
> https://pota.goatley.com/dvd/rarities3/
>
> There are two ways you can get the DVDs:
>
> - You can arrange with James to send him blank discs and return
> postage, and he'll copy the discs and return them to you. If
> you want to pursue this, contact James at JamesA1102@...
>
> - You can purchase the blank DVDs from Greg P. For people in the
> U.S., this works out to $3.50. NOTE: YOU ARE PAYING ONLY FOR
> THE DISCS, THE PACKAGING, AND THE POSTAGE. ABSOLUTELY NO PROFIT
> IS BEING DERIVED FROM THIS SET. You can send the money via PayPal
> to Greg at urko3085@...
>
> If you want the first two Rarities DVDs, $6 to Greg will get
> you a set of all four discs. For non-U.S. residents, contact
> Greg to work it out.
>
> Many thanks to all of those who contributed the content for these discs. I honestly don't remember all the details of who contributed what, so I'm not even going to try to name names. They can step forward for the credit, if they want. But these discs wouldn't have been possible without them!!
>
> Hunter
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:

>
> Now here's another question for everyone. Is anyone keeping track
> of what are on all these disks and if there is any way to keep
> track of what isn't on them for a new disc some day?

I will be keeping an eye out, but at this time, I don't plan to do any more Rarities DVDs. There'd have to be something really amazing that comes to light before I'd do another one, as I think we've pretty much gotten everything there is that is vintage.

There are a slew of newer programs---like all of those that aired on FMC, but were also included as extras on the Blu-ray set---that I would not collect on a Rarities disc because they're too new. The vast majority of what has made it to the Rarities discs is 30 to 45 years old or fan-filmed.

Hunter

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Hi, all!

Believe it or not, after some seven years in the making, I've finally released the final Planet of the Apes Rarities DVD (aka Rarities 3)!!

For screenshots of each of the menus (and to see what's on the disc), visit my Apes site at the URL below:

https://pota.goatley.com/dvd/rarities3/

There are two ways you can get the DVDs:

- You can arrange with James to send him blank discs and return
postage, and he'll copy the discs and return them to you. If
you want to pursue this, contact James at JamesA1102@...

- You can purchase the blank DVDs from Greg P. For people in the
U.S., this works out to $3.50. NOTE: YOU ARE PAYING ONLY FOR
THE DISCS, THE PACKAGING, AND THE POSTAGE. ABSOLUTELY NO PROFIT
IS BEING DERIVED FROM THIS SET. You can send the money via PayPal
to Greg at urko3085@...

If you want the first two Rarities DVDs, $6 to Greg will get
you a set of all four discs. For non-U.S. residents, contact
Greg to work it out.

Many thanks to all of those who contributed the content for these discs. I honestly don't remember all the details of who contributed what, so I'm not even going to try to name names. They can step forward for the credit, if they want. But these discs wouldn't have been possible without them!!

Hunter

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Hard to believe but it's been almost 2 years since "Rise of the POTA", and the Memorial Day weekend marks one year to go before it's sequel. That's right, "Dawn of the POTA" is getting a primo Memorial Day release (unless Fox blinks), suggesting the studio has a lot of faith in it. It's a far cry from the tepid release of "Rise" in the wilds of August.
What's that you say, you didn't like "Rise"? Doesn't matter; it's a new director and a new vision. Almost everybody on the film is new to the POTA. We're all starting fresh (but those who don't like CG apes are out of luck). A year from now we might yearn for the "Rise" team if it sucks, or it might be better than our wildest dreams (well, not the dreams of those who want makeup). There's not much else to say, they are deep into filming in New Orleans until mid-July and what they are making will slowly be unveiled in the coming year. Maybe we'll get a tease during Comic-Con in late July but probably our first look will be around Christmas.
Anyway, I think the one year mark is fun to ponder, the difference between "it'll never get here!" and "it's coming!". Thank you for your attention.

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I'd hate to have to wear one of those CG Suits in NOLA in July!

 

In a message dated 5/24/2013 7:47:12 A.M. Central Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

There's not much else to say, they are deep into filming in New Orleans until mid-July

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From: Tim <timparati@...>
Date: May 26, 2013, 9:08:58 AM EDT
To: apefan23@...
Subject: Tweet from King Kong (@KingKongStage)

	King Kong (@KingKongStage)
5/26/13, 5:38 AM Wow what a story Sunday Night! For more see below. See you at the Regent Theatre - previews start Tuesday! fb.me/JvwfMYT5

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Here's what the environs look like in New Orleans where "Dawn of the POTA" is filming. Welcome to the jungle.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=80280

I think it's a given that Koba will be the villain in "Dawn of the POTA" (screenwriter Mark Bomback has a picture of him on his twitter page). Most of the apes have already been accounted for. Imdb lists Andy Serkis as Caesar, Karin Konoval returns as Maurice the orangutan, Terry Notary is back as Rocket. But actor/stuntman Chris Gordon played Koba in "Rise" and he's doing the new "Godzilla". Are they going to cast someone else like they did Judy Greer as Cornelia? Do we still have a cool casting surprise left?

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Here's a Soundworks video about creating the audio pleasures for "Rise of the POTA":

http://soundworkscollection.com/videos/riseofapes

And while we're at it, here's the Soundworks vid of new POTA composer Michael Giacchino scoring the current "Star Trek":

http://soundworkscollection.com/videos/the-music-of-star-trek-into-darkness

An d while we're REALLY at it, here's Giacchino talking "Star Trek" (and giving a shout out to his POTA toys):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2Co8dZKei8

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:

>
> I think it's a given that Koba will be the villain in "Dawn of the POTA" (screenwriter Mark Bomback has a picture of him on his twitter page). Most of the apes have already been accounted for. Imdb lists Andy Serkis as Caesar, Karin Konoval returns as Maurice the orangutan, Terry Notary is back as Rocket. But actor/stuntman Chris Gordon played Koba in "Rise" and he's doing the new "Godzilla". Are they going to cast someone else like they did Judy Greer as Cornelia? Do we still have a cool casting surprise left?
>

Agree! Lets go to NY. Its just better their IMHO.... John M.

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You'd be surprised what they can do. It doesn't have to BE the place.

It just has to look like it through a camera lens. And I can't think of a

better place to make a major city LOOK abandoned than New Orleans.

 

 

 

In a message dated 5/26/2013 11:01:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, johnmermigas@... writes:

Agree! Lets go to NY. Its just better their IMHO.... John M.

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I hope KOBA is the bad guy---although, being Apesters, we may actually be rooting for for him.I'd prefer an Apes movie, rather than Apes -v-Humans theme.I love the images of the ruined San Francisco---wouldn't it be cool if they popped over to Oakland to leave a computer behind......I think DAWN is looking extremely exciting so far.One worry I do have is whether, just maybe, the box office is getting sci-fi'd out.The Marvel movies are money making juggernauts that seem to be rolling over sci fi movies that have under performed at the box office, such as Prometheus, The Hobbit and Star Trek. John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I think it's a given that Koba will be the villain in "Dawn of the POTA" (screenwriter Mark Bomback has a picture of him on his twitter page). Most of the apes have already been accounted for. Imdb lists Andy Serkis as Caesar, Karin Konoval returns as Maurice the orangutan, Terry Notary is back as Rocket. But actor/stuntman Chris Gordon played Koba in "Rise" and he's doing the new "Godzilla". Are they going to cast someone else like they did Judy Greer as Cornelia? Do we still have a cool casting surprise left?
>

You said "I'd prefer an Apes movie, rather than Apes -v-Humans theme."

But all the Apes movies have been just that. Apes VS Humans. It's always Apes VS Humans. The movies, the TV show (animated and live action), the comics (all of them), ...

As far as I remember even all the fan made creations have always had an Apes VS Humans theme.

Go back John, and check it out. But beware. As an ape once said "You may not like what you find."!

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2013 6:51:18 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: What about Koba?






I hope KOBA is the bad guy---although, being Apesters, we may actually be rooting for for him.I'd prefer an Apes movie, rather than Apes -v-Humans theme.I love the images of the ruined San Francisco---wouldn't it be cool if they popped over to Oakland to leave a computer behind......I think DAWN is looking extremely exciting so far.One worry I do have is whether, just maybe, the box office is getting sci-fi'd out.The Marvel movies are money making juggernauts that seem to be rolling over sci fi movies that have under performed at the box office, such as Prometheus, The Hobbit and Star Trek. John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com , "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I think it's a given that Koba will be the villain in "Dawn of the POTA" (screenwriter Mark Bomback has a picture of him on his twitter page). Most of the apes have already been accounted for. Imdb lists Andy Serkis as Caesar, Karin Konoval returns as Maurice the orangutan, Terry Notary is back as Rocket. But actor/stuntman Chris Gordon played Koba in "Rise" and he's doing the new "Godzilla". Are they going to cast someone else like they did Judy Greer as Cornelia? Do we still have a cool casting surprise left?
>

BATTLE's real story is about Ape vs Ape. ALL of the other movies are a combination---NONE of them are just Ape versus Human--each film has Apes and Humans working against evil doers, be those evil doers Ape or Human.To view ANY of the movies as just Ape v Human is, in my very humble opinion, missing the entire point of the whole series.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
>
>
> You said "I'd prefer an Apes movie, rather than Apes -v-Humans theme."
>
> But all the Apes movies have been just that. Apes VS Humans. It's always Apes VS Humans. The movies, the TV show (animated and live action), the comics (all of them), ...
>
> As far as I remember even all the fan made creations have always had an Apes VS Humans theme.
>
> Go back John, and check it out. But beware. As an ape once said "You may not like what you find."!
>
> Dario
>

I dont mean that the film must be recorded in NY,NY just that eventually it ends their, digitally or real. Not solely because im an oldtimer but its just what the Apes mean to so many and it just seems to be the best place to have an iconic film series be finnalized in an iconic city like NY,NY.
Ofcourse the original is a NY film in many ways and ofcourse its sequel. The written words that were spoken in "Rise" and the final shot of the arrival and departing board with the emphases on New York shows that even the least educated Apes fans "writers" know how it should be done. Whatever?
I just hope it ends in New York even for a new generation, it just feels right and it just seems like the right thing to do.
I just woke up and im alittle groggy so sorry. Take care, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> You'd be surprised what they can do. It doesn't have to BE the place.
> It just has to look like it through a camera lens. And I can't think of a
> better place to make a major city LOOK abandoned than New Orleans.
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 5/26/2013 11:01:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> johnmermigas@... writes:
>
>
> Agree! Lets go to NY. Its just better their IMHO.... John M.
>

Jeff--thanks so much for sharing that.The RISE sound ideas is a captivating documentary--really special.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Here's a Soundworks video about creating the audio pleasures for "Rise of the POTA":
>
> http://soundworkscollection.com/videos/riseofapes
>
> And while we're at it, here's the Soundworks vid of new POTA composer Michael Giacchino scoring the current "Star Trek":
>
> http://soundworkscollection.com/videos/the-music-of-star-trek-into-darkness
>
> An d while we're REALLY at it, here's Giacchino talking "Star Trek" (and giving a shout out to his POTA toys):
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2Co8dZKei8
>

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BATTLE's real story is about Ape vs Ape. ALL of the other movies are a combination---NONE of them are just Ape versus Human--each film has Apes and Humans working against evil doers, be those evil doers Ape or Human.To view ANY of the movies as just Ape v Human is, in my very humble opinion, missing the entire point of the whole series.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
>
>
> You said "I'd prefer an Apes movie, rather than Apes -v-Humans theme."
>
> But all the Apes movies have been just that. Apes VS Humans. It's always Apes VS Humans. The movies, the TV show (animated and live action), the comics (all of them), ...
>
> As far as I remember even all the fan made creations have always had an Apes VS Humans theme.
>
> Go back John, and check it out. But beware. As an ape once said "You may not like what you find."!
>
> Dario
>

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I'm already getting a bit nervous for DAWN--what would qualify as success? Is it 600, 800 or the billion? I've seen comments that 'Star Trek' remains a 'fanboy thing' and won't make the big mainstream crossover.I don't think APES is in that category, especially after the RISE critical success, but it could still be a miss if things don't click. Sci Fi in its' own right seems to be struggling but then again,APES has never seemed normal Sci Fi anyway.Just like with BENEATH, DAWN is the one that can establish a franchise. John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> "Oblivion" (produced by the "Rise" guys) also did meh. Though I don't think "The Hobbit" qualifies, either as sci-fi or as underperforming (it made over $ 1 billion worldwide - way to go, Andy Serkis!). But it's true that more serious sci-fi is having trouble relative to it's cost. The question is whether POTA has a box office ceiling or if it can play with the big boys. Doesn't look like it for "Star Trek", IMAX and 3D or not. It's struggling. Looks like soon all we're going to get is superheroes and "Fast and Furious" movies.
>
>

Well, Wyatt wanted to go 'Full Metal Jacket', but now is just gone.That should hopefully suggest a more nuanced script that Man v Ape at War, which would be garbage, frankly.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Dario <darios@...> wrote:
>
> While battle did have the "Ape shall not kill ape" subplot, I still consider the Apes vs Mutants the main storyline. Don't get me wrong, I too prefer the pure ape story, but I still see the main stories always as the Ape vs Human theme. It's just another example of Hollywood taking the safe route.
>
> And as few humans as there may be in Dawn, I'm betting that its gonna be another Ape vs Human story.
>
> Dario
>

There's not a huge library of POTA books out there like there is for such popular franchises as "Star Wars", "Star Trek" or "Lord of the Rings". But POTA has managed to dip it's feet into some interesting takes. There's a book about it's politics, a collectibles book, a chronology, an encyclopedia, a well researched history. And now there's a book about it's philosophy. What's left? I think it would lend itself to one of those big coffee table books with nice color pictures and posters. And I've always thought it would be a natural for one of those "The Science of..." books.
"POTA and Philosophy" hits today.

http://www.ohio.com/blogs/heldenfiles/the-heldenfiles-online-1.25835/ua-faculty-members-assembles-planet-of-the-apes-and-philosophy-book-1.401375

Some actors tweeted that they played "captured humans" today. Ape vs. Man can be good if the writing is good, with actors like Gary Oldman going at it.


From: johnroche49
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 2:19 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: What about Koba?



Well, Wyatt wanted to go 'Full Metal Jacket', but now is just gone.That should hopefully suggest a more nuanced script that Man v Ape at War, which would be garbage, frankly.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Dario <darios@...> wrote:
>
> While battle did have the "Ape shall not kill ape" subplot, I still consider the Apes vs Mutants the main storyline. Don't get me wrong, I too prefer the pure ape story, but I still see the main stories always as the Ape vs Human theme. It's just another example of Hollywood taking the safe route.
>
> And as few humans as there may be in Dawn, I'm betting that its gonna be another Ape vs Human story.
>
> Dario
>

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That's cool. I'd prefer that too.  Just saying that as Locations go . . .

NOLA really IS an abandoned Major City.  So It will have that Feel.

I think we all want more than just a couple of shots of walking through

a Matte Painting, CG or otherwise, and some soundstages on the Fox

Lot like last time. Though it might take them a month of Sundays to do it.

 

 

 

In a message dated 5/27/2013 4:04:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, johnmermigas@... writes:

Whatever?
I just hope it ends in New York even for a new generation, it just feels right and it just seems like the right thing to do.
I just woke up and im alittle groggy so sorry. Take care, John M.

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Just ordered mine! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> There's not a huge library of POTA books out there like there is for such popular franchises as "Star Wars", "Star Trek" or "Lord of the Rings". But POTA has managed to dip it's feet into some interesting takes. There's a book about it's politics, a collectibles book, a chronology, an encyclopedia, a well researched history. And now there's a book about it's philosophy. What's left? I think it would lend itself to one of those big coffee table books with nice color pictures and posters. And I've always thought it would be a natural for one of those "The Science of..." books.
> "POTA and Philosophy" hits today.
>
> http://www.ohio.com/blogs/heldenfiles/the-heldenfiles-online-1.25835/ua-faculty-members-assembles-planet-of-the-apes-and-philosophy-book-1.401375
>

I think if Bomback was ,as I've read, the guy who gave us the 'window drawn on the cell wall' bit of RISE, then we're in good hands.Particularly if he refers to his Ape figures during a Trek gig.The man is clearly a class act.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Some actors tweeted that they played "captured humans" today. Ape vs. Man can be good if the writing is good, with actors like Gary Oldman going at it.
>
>
> From: johnroche49
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 2:19 PM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: What about Koba?
>
>
>
> Well, Wyatt wanted to go 'Full Metal Jacket', but now is just gone.That should hopefully suggest a more nuanced script that Man v Ape at War, which would be garbage, frankly.John, Scrolls.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Dario <darios@> wrote:
> >
> > While battle did have the "Ape shall not kill ape" subplot, I still consider the Apes vs Mutants the main storyline. Don't get me wrong, I too prefer the pure ape story, but I still see the main stories always as the Ape vs Human theme. It's just another example of Hollywood taking the safe route.
> >
> > And as few humans as there may be in Dawn, I'm betting that its gonna be another Ape vs Human story.
> >
> > Dario
> >
>