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Sounds like "Dawn of the POTA" is def a war movie. : )

https://twitter.com/MissKOrtiz/status/344407507491504128

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Probably the best thing about Battle are the edited parts that were put back in for some video, the Mutant parts, and the same for Conquest, the violent parts. Only if the prolouge for Conquest can be found-Im sure its their somewhere- just to lazy to reinstall it. It was filmed and publicity shots were taken and blah, blah, blah... One day I hope. Take care, John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> This month marks 40 years of "Battle For the POTA" (the "POTA Revisited" and "POTA as American Myth" books say June 13). So what? Generally the least regarded of the movies (except maybe Burton's), it nevertheless brought some groovy things to the POTA mythology. Er, um, no wait, I'll think of something!
> Aldo. Ricky the squirrel. The Caesar statue's tear. That darn bus. "Someday you'll be as tall as a king". Where would we be without them?
> And with the new movie looking more and more like a remake of "Battle" (a "Battle" royal, if you will), it's a good time for the black sheep of the family.
>
> http://instagram.com/p/abqyUYF4d1/#
>
> Happy Birthday, "Battle"!
>

That image just SCREAMS Conquest! The shooting could just be Koba rehearsing a blu ray extra! Everything I hear about this film is exciting! Thanks for the news, Jeff. John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Sounds like "Dawn of the POTA" is def a war movie. : )
>
> https://twitter.com/MissKOrtiz/status/344407507491504128
>
> https://twitter.com/mattreevesLA/status/345765373280391168/photo/1
>

BATTLE is, in my view, underrated.Considering the budget, it's an amazing spectacle.It's such an important piece of the mythos jigsaw and I love it.The restored scenes are important, but, with or without, it's the fifth best movie ever made.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> Probably the best thing about Battle are the edited parts that were put back in for some video, the Mutant parts, and the same for Conquest, the violent parts. Only if the prolouge for Conquest can be found-Im sure its their somewhere- just to lazy to reinstall it. It was filmed and publicity shots were taken and blah, blah, blah... One day I hope. Take care, John M.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@> wrote:
> >
> > This month marks 40 years of "Battle For the POTA" (the "POTA Revisited" and "POTA as American Myth" books say June 13). So what? Generally the least regarded of the movies (except maybe Burton's), it nevertheless brought some groovy things to the POTA mythology. Er, um, no wait, I'll think of something!
> > Aldo. Ricky the squirrel. The Caesar statue's tear. That darn bus. "Someday you'll be as tall as a king". Where would we be without them?
> > And with the new movie looking more and more like a remake of "Battle" (a "Battle" royal, if you will), it's a good time for the black sheep of the family.
> >
> > http://instagram.com/p/abqyUYF4d1/#
> >
> > Happy Birthday, "Battle"!
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:

>
> That image just SCREAMS Conquest! The shooting could just be Koba rehearsing a blu ray extra! Everything I hear about this film is exciting! Thanks for the news, Jeff. John, Scrolls.
>

Ill scream for that, GO CONQUEST, Again!, John M.

> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@> wrote:
> >
> > Sounds like "Dawn of the POTA" is def a war movie. : )
> >
> > https://twitter.com/MissKOrtiz/status/344407507491504128
> >
> > https://twitter.com/mattreevesLA/status/345765373280391168/photo/1
> >
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:

>
> BATTLE is, in my view, underrated.Considering the budget, it's an amazing spectacle.It's such an important piece of the mythos jigsaw and I love it.The restored scenes are important, but, with or without, it's the fifth best movie ever made.John, Scrolls.
>

I saw all the Apes films as they were released from 1968 till the 1974 GO APE festival. Each film had faults even Beneaths faults can be overlooked because its more a horror movie (very creepy) in my view than a sci-fi one. After seeing Conquest about 15 times in 1972 in the best theaters even in its edited form and then a year latter seeing Battle you might understand why most oldtimers are very dissapointed with it(Battle).
If you are an oldtimer like myself and like Battle that much well I wount go any further with my diatribe for Battle is a very bad movie or an OK TV movie of the week. Lets be honest. The reinserted mutant parts are what save Battle and I hope more youngsters see that version to atleast give the whole Ape series and extra half a star***1/2. Just my view. Love your enthusiasm though, John M.

> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "JohnM conquest-idor" <johnmermigas@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Probably the best thing about Battle are the edited parts that were put back in for some video, the Mutant parts, and the same for Conquest, the violent parts. Only if the prolouge for Conquest can be found-Im sure its their somewhere- just to lazy to reinstall it. It was filmed and publicity shots were taken and blah, blah, blah... One day I hope. Take care, John M.
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@> wrote:
> > >
> > > This month marks 40 years of "Battle For the POTA" (the "POTA Revisited" and "POTA as American Myth" books say June 13). So what? Generally the least regarded of the movies (except maybe Burton's), it nevertheless brought some groovy things to the POTA mythology. Er, um, no wait, I'll think of something!
> > > Aldo. Ricky the squirrel. The Caesar statue's tear. That darn bus. "Someday you'll be as tall as a king". Where would we be without them?
> > > And with the new movie looking more and more like a remake of "Battle" (a "Battle" royal, if you will), it's a good time for the black sheep of the family.
> > >
> > > http://instagram.com/p/abqyUYF4d1/#
> > >
> > > Happy Birthday, "Battle"!
> > >
> >
>

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"NOW... Fight like apes!" Still sends chills. Battle is way underrated.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> "The governor is very irritable these days".
>
> "Who wouldn't be, living in this hell of radiation all these years!"
>
>
> From: Shane Miller
> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 2:42 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Pota] 40 years of "Battle"
>
>
>
>
> "I'm not interested in equipment failures."
>
>
> From: Dario <darios@...>
> To: "pota@yahoogroups.com" <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 8:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [Pota] 40 years of "Battle"
>
>
> And John Huston as an ourangutan with super bushy eyebrows.
> And Frances Nuyen
>
>
>
>
> Dario
>
> On Jun 14, 2013, at 7:51 PM, Jeff Barkley <skintricks62@...> wrote:
>
> You forgot, "Ape shall never kill Abe" and my favorite, " Stop STOP Caesar forbids youuuuu!!"
> On Jun 14, 2013 4:39 PM, "Jeff K." veetus@...> wrote:
>
> This month marks 40 years of "Battle For the POTA" (the "POTA Revisited" and "POTA as American Myth" books say June 13). So what? Generally the least regarded of the movies (except maybe Burton's), it nevertheless brought some groovy things to the POTA mythology. Er, um, no wait, I'll think of something!
> Aldo. Ricky the squirrel. The Caesar statue's tear. That darn bus. "Someday you'll be as tall as a king". Where would we be without them?
> And with the new movie looking more and more like a remake of "Battle" (a "Battle" royal, if you will), it's a good time for the black sheep of the family.
>
> http://instagram.com/p/abqyUYF4d1/#
>
> Happy Birthday, "Battle"!
>

Great pic Bill! Thanks for posting.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, William Burge wrote:
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> dear group,  heres a photo that will bring back memories of the ape marathon.  enjoy from william
>

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.html.htmlI hope it fades away on both the home front and theatrically... It outlived it's use (as a novelty) quite awhile ago...

One good sign that's it's going out of style for home use is ESPN is discontinuing its 3-D broadcasts due to lack of interest...

If DAWN is shown as a 3-D film, I'll skip watching it that way and watch it in the standard form...




In a message dated 6/17/2013 9:35:08 AM Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:

I think DAWN is being shot for 3-D, but there's signs now that the gimmick is pretty much a bust, at least on the home consumer level.

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3D is still big in movies, at least in other countries. Paramount refused to make the new "Star Trek" unless it was released in 3D. Usually I'll forgo seeing movies in 3D but I can't pass up the opportunity to see a POTA movie in 3D.


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 7:33 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"




I think DAWN is being shot for 3-D, but there's signs now that the gimmick is pretty much a bust, at least on the home consumer level. I wonder how much longer Hollywood is going to try and milk it?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/17/business/media/future-of-3-d-tv-murky-as-espn-ends-channel.htmlnl=todaysheadlines&emc=edit_th_20130617&_r=0



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Google Alert - "planet of the apes"


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An APES movie in 3-D is going to show what 3-D was made for.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> 3D is still big in movies, at least in other countries. Paramount refused to make the new "Star Trek" unless it was released in 3D. Usually I'll forgo seeing movies in 3D but I can't pass up the opportunity to see a POTA movie in 3D.
>
>

The 2013 Licensing Expo is happening in Vegas and is sporting a "Dawn of the POTA" poster among other big upcoming movies. It looks like "Jurassic Park 4" has been pushed back to 2015 so JP and POTA won't get a box office rematch from 2001. Will licensors sign up with POTA or keep their distance?

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=81817

i am into planet of the apes so much, that i try to make it a reality in my mind. so now i'm told apes can't talk in real life. i loved the sign language in rise of apes, but i didn't like when caesar talked in the end. i'm told that apes don't physically have that capability. so the drug that made them intelligent would make them mentally equal. but that would not change the vocal chords. so i am hoping they could write in the script that this drug somehow expands the vocal chords to talk

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We are assembling a revised and expanded edition of the 2001 book PLANET OF THE APES REVISITED.It will feature new material as well as the "classic" text on the original five 20th-Century Fox films.If anyone has any rare photographs or information they care to contribute to the project, we would appreciate your input. Please e-mail epshots@... if you have something you think should be included -thank you! J Russo

I do kind of worry about the licensor thing.It's easier to sell a watch in a contemporary setting, less easy if Koba's wearing it whilst shooting humans.But that might skew which films get the green light---are we going to see more movies set in the here and now, to maximise licensor interest? That would be bad--and not just for APES.Money rules, I guess.I read that Man of Steel 2 might be rushed out for 2014 now, too! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> The 2013 Licensing Expo is happening in Vegas and is sporting a "Dawn of the POTA" poster among other big upcoming movies. It looks like "Jurassic Park 4" has been pushed back to 2015 so JP and POTA won't get a box office rematch from 2001. Will licensors sign up with POTA or keep their distance?
>
> http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BatFreak/news/?a=81817
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Not true! There was a chimp at the Hogle Zoo

in Salt Lake City, and she could talk. And I

don't mean like chimps you see in videos,

saying Mama. She said things like, Hello.

She had to hold her nose to do it, but

it was clear and distinct. Not just Mama.

 

 

In a message dated 6/18/2013 9:05:36 P.M. Central Daylight Time, john.rutkoski@... writes:

i loved the sign language in rise of apes, but i didn't like when caesar talked in the end. i'm told that apes don't physically have that capability.

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One thing about APES is that it (should!) be easy to trailer---people just love talking monkeys. I'm hoping that the big,family audience that RISE seemed to snag doesn't get put off by too much violence in the trailers.DAWN really could lock in the APES franchise until we're all dead in this group.Sorry to end on a downer.Once a Beneath fan, always a Beneath fan...... John, Scrolls,

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I think the licensing is for merchandise (toys, shirts, etc.). Product tie-ins are something else. The tie-ins during "Man of Steel" were for apocalyptic destruction scenes, so I don't think that would rule POTA out. There's a big Coca-Cola sign on the "Dawn" set.
> They've already set the dates for 2 more "Spiderman" movies. They really are starting to get ahead of themselves.
>
>

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Fox is doing some rearranging. Looks like "Dawn of the POTA" and "X-Men: Days of Future Past" are swapping dates. "Dawn" will arrive July 18 2014, a week after the "Fast & Furious 7" behemoth. Of course it's still early days. Things could change again. It is what it is.

http://collider.com/independence-day-2-sequel-release-date-july-3-2015/

It's bloody annoying, is what it is!! Too long to wait!!! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Fox is doing some rearranging. Looks like "Dawn of the POTA" and "X-Men: Days of Future Past" are swapping dates. "Dawn" will arrive July 18 2014, a week after the "Fast & Furious 7" behemoth. Of course it's still early days. Things could change again. It is what it is.
>
> http://collider.com/independence-day-2-sequel-release-date-july-3-2015/
>

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It was nice to have "Dawn" kinda lead off the summer. In the 21st Century, POTA has always brought up summer's rear (POTA2001 on July 27, "Rise" on Aug. 5 and now this). To have "Dawn" as a big Memorial Day release would've been cool. If someone asked us, "When is your dinky POTA movie coming out?", we could've said, "Why, on Memorial Day weekend. Maybe you've heard of it? Only one of the biggest movie weekends of the year!". All they would've be able to do is bow in deference.
But now! POTA is in the slot it always is. Not fair! Not fair! "X-Men" always wins! And "Rise" kicked the box office crap out of every "X-Men" movie. And don't give me that stuff about it will give them more time to get the FX right. We don't know that. It also costs more money to fiddle with it. By now I'm sure they have the CG down to a science. Maybe they are doing this to give "Dawn" more time but I doubt it. It sounds like they are wrapping "Dawn" at the end of the month so things are going swimmingly (I like that expression: "swimmingly"). They are doing this for the reason they always do. POTA fans are second-class citizens. We always have to step aside when the "Star Wars" or "Star Trek" or "X-Men" fans need to be serviced. Always has been, always will be.


From: johnroche49
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 5:28 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: "Dawn" pushed back to 7/18/14



It's bloody annoying, is what it is!! Too long to wait!!! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Fox is doing some rearranging. Looks like "Dawn of the POTA" and "X-Men: Days of Future Past" are swapping dates. "Dawn" will arrive July 18 2014, a week after the "Fast & Furious 7" behemoth. Of course it's still early days. Things could change again. It is what it is.
>
> http://collider.com/independence-day-2-sequel-release-date-july-3-2015/
>

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Is July, though, a bigger month than May? I kind of view this as a step up or 'promotion' in stature over the X-Men. I love the X-Men.Just love Apes more! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> It was nice to have "Dawn" kinda lead off the summer. In the 21st Century, POTA has always brought up summer's rear (POTA2001 on July 27, "Rise" on Aug. 5 and now this). To have "Dawn" as a big Memorial Day release would've been cool. If someone asked us, "When is your dinky POTA movie coming out?", we could've said, "Why, on Memorial Day weekend. Maybe you've heard of it? Only one of the biggest movie weekends of the year!". All they would've be able to do is bow in deference.
> But now! POTA is in the slot it always is. Not fair! Not fair! "X-Men" always wins! And "Rise" kicked the box office crap out of every "X-Men" movie. And don't give me that stuff about it will give them more time to get the FX right. We don't know that. It also costs more money to fiddle with it. By now I'm sure they have the CG down to a science. Maybe they are doing this to give "Dawn" more time but I doubt it. It sounds like they are wrapping "Dawn" at the end of the month so things are going swimmingly (I like that expression: "swimmingly"). They are doing this for the reason they always do. POTA fans are second-class citizens. We always have to step aside when the "Star Wars" or "Star Trek" or "X-Men" fans need to be serviced. Always has been, always will be.
>
>
> From: johnroche49
> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 5:28 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] Re: "Dawn" pushed back to 7/18/14
>
>
>
> It's bloody annoying, is what it is!! Too long to wait!!! John, Scrolls.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@> wrote:
> >
> > Fox is doing some rearranging. Looks like "Dawn of the POTA" and "X-Men: Days of Future Past" are swapping dates. "Dawn" will arrive July 18 2014, a week after the "Fast & Furious 7" behemoth. Of course it's still early days. Things could change again. It is what it is.
> >
> > http://collider.com/independence-day-2-sequel-release-date-july-3-2015/
> >
>

I really don't mind July. Back in the '70s I didn't get to see each POTA film until very late June or July. I don't think I saw Conquest until August. Back then the new film would open in just a few theaters in Manhattan and I had to wait until it came around to one of my local theaters which usually took several weeks.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" wrote:
>
> Is July, though, a bigger month than May? I kind of view this as a step up or 'promotion' in stature over the X-Men. I love the X-Men.Just love Apes more! John, Scrolls.
>

The U.S. window card is on the group website: http://www.potamediaarchive.com/Planet.htm

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, bruce wrote:
>
> I think that's an Australian poster-the APES window card I have from the U.S. is different and in full color.
>
>
> Bruce
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: William Burge billburge48@...
> To: pota pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, Jun 21, 2013 7:49 pm
> Subject: [pota] planet window card [1 Attachment]
>
>
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> [Attachment(s) from William Burge included below]
>
>
> dear group, here is a window card from planet enjoy from william
>

It's not a step up. "Dawn" was set for Memorial Day weekend. That's a biggie. I think they've got something huge planned for "X-Men", with a huge roster of actors from the old and new films. Superhero films are still all that and sci-fi isn't doing so hot ("Star Trek", "Oblivion", John Carter") so maybe "X-Men" is a safer choice.
I was also thinking there's a lot of "creature" movies in May ("Godzilla", Pixar's "The Good Dinosaur", "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles") so maybe a superhero movie fits in there better, and then their "creature" feature ("Dawn") would be good "counterprogramming" opposite "Fast and Furious" (a huge franchise). Then again, Fox seems to love the end of summer, but they seem more about consistent base hits than home runs. This summer their big movie "The Wolverine" (another X-flick) hits July 26.
So Memorial Day was a big deal (as is July 4rth) but these U.S. holidays matter less now with the importance of the world market. I guess at the end of Summer 2014 it won't matter when "Dawn" came out, just if it was good.


From: johnroche49
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 3:40 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: "Dawn" pushed back to 7/18/14



Is July, though, a bigger month than May? I kind of view this as a step up or 'promotion' in stature over the X-Men. I love the X-Men.Just love Apes more! John, Scrolls.

Fox isn't worried about the CG. They are worried about strategic release dates. They will just throw more money at the CG so it's finished on time if they have to (the X-Men CG people just let out a collective >gulp!<). I will say "Dawn" doesn't have as much competition now. Except "Fast and Furious" the week before, it opens against "Planes 2", the Disney "Cars" wannabe; the next week is the Rock as "Hercules" and the sci-fi "Jupiter Ascending" (from the "Matrix" directors); and the week after that is Marvel's "Guardians of the Galaxy". Pretty smooth sailing.
Rupert Wyatt sez he and Fox didn't agree about the direction of the story. I think that schedule thing was just the official story.


From: Haristas@...
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2013 10:14 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] Re: "Dawn" pushed back to 7/18/14






Is July, though, a bigger month than May? I kind of view this as a step up or 'promotion' in stature over the X-Men. I love the X-Men.Just love Apes more! John, Scrolls.




I think it has more to do with the CGI going to take a little longer with DAWN.

Rupert knew what he was talking about. I'm just glad to see that maybe DAWN won't be a rush job.

Now, I worry more about it coming out just a week after another FAST AND FURIOUS. I don't like those dumb movies, but the general public eats them up.

Here's a real rarety! A blueprint used for making the ape village in POTA. We can see how the grounds had to be graded as well as some of the housing. Since not all of the houses are shown I would assume that originally there existed a whole set of these blueprints. Check out some of the others involved in the legend box.

Price is steep though and these is definite aging along the fold borders (extra blue). But still very nice.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/1967-Planet-of-the-Apes-APE-TOWN-Blueprint-/300910084562

Dario

can someone give me more information on apes talking in abundance. not just one that may have. medical science says their physical makeup doesn't allow them. so all i am asking is that they make a reference in the new movie that the drug franco was using in rise expanded their vocal chords.

Went to see the very hilarious and wise Dave Chappelle last night. He was talking about movies and how they reflect on real life... Black life in particular. He said when he first saw POTA he thought , "Cornelius? That's a black name! I gotta cousin named Cornelius!" He said Cornelius was sporting a blownout perm..! He saw all the remakes and dissed the "Marky mark" version .....
Always a thrill when POTA shows up in everyday life....
Tim

.html.htmlI think the whole thing of apes having the ability to talk in the POTA series is something that will never be fully explained to satisfy everyone... Your explanation is as good as any other out there, at least as far as the new franchise goes...

I think "if" an explanation for their vocal development is created, it'll probably come from a fan's theories and/or a fan fic... Maybe it will be touched on in the new film, but it's unlikely since they'll probably just delve into the beginnings of the ape society and not how Caesar and the others communicated with each other to get it started...

If the apes in the (old or new) APES films had their own language developed like they did in Boulle's book, it probably would have made things easier to explain... By that I mean the three species of apes could probably imitate each other's different vocalizations and maybe with that they could have developed some sort of language of their own, one that would work with the "vocalization" abilities they'd all have... But, to paraphrase Heston, English is the language of film, so they probably figured it's easier to just go with it and not explain the how's and why's of things (and that goes for the old and new films)...





In a message dated 6/23/2013 9:12:50 AM Central Daylight Time, john.rutkoski@... writes:

can someone give me more information on apes talking in abundance. not just one that may have. medical science says their physical makeup doesn't allow them. so all i am asking is that they make a reference in the new movie that the drug franco was using in rise expanded their vocal chords.

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We've got a stand up guy in the UK called Stewart Lee who references APES.Always makes me happy to see how embedded in the culture Apes is.Incidentally, I was speaking to a guy today who works on the periphery of the movie world and he sees DAWN's move to July as a strategic step up for DAWN, meaning it will get the big summer movie marketing blitz. Goody! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Tim <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> Went to see the very hilarious and wise Dave Chappelle last night. He was talking about movies and how they reflect on real life... Black life in particular. He said when he first saw POTA he thought , "Cornelius? That's a black name! I gotta cousin named Cornelius!" He said Cornelius was sporting a blownout perm..! He saw all the remakes and dissed the "Marky mark" version .....
> Always a thrill when POTA shows up in everyday life....
> Tim
>

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whoever is reading my messages is not getting it. if you read my message. i said i like to make apes as real as possible in the movie. with the virus on humans and testing on apes. that is more possible than apes talking. as one person said they just hollywooded it up. and caesar was so articulate when he said he was home. it would have been better if he said he was home in sign language and the apes killed the police that came in to the forest, if you know of the original ending thats how it was first filmed. and if you rem. they did that in conquest also killing the governor while caesar speaks and the city is burning. the difference with me is if i was fortunate to make ape movies i would not do it to make money. i would do it to make it as real as possible. when science says apes could talk possibly someday with drugs than fine. why could't they at least make a ref. in the movie that the drug is expanding their vocal chords.

"Dawn of the POTA" has wrapped shooting on those big city sets and they are being torn down. I don't think the film is totally wrapped yet but now NOLA traffic can get back to normal (at least until "Midday of the POTA"). This article sez POTA spent $ 80 million there (presumably with some nice financial incentives).

http://www.noladefender.com/content/c45bd-st1reets-reopen-dawn-planet-apes-breaks-down-set

Soon such graffiti will be only a memory.

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JaymzBee of Toronto's JAZZ.FM91 met our own Gary "Dreyfus" Oldman during a New Orleans vacation:

http://jaymzbee.wordpress.com/2013/06/18/1743/

Hello, I apologize if these are bad questions or ones that have been answered previously. I am curious to see the responses.

1. In Planet, what does Taylor use for shaving cream to remove his beard?

2. In Beneath, what is the meaning of the exchange, "Are you thinking what I'm thinking?" "I'm thinking just that." ?

3. For Escape, if Dr. Milo half understood the ship, how indeed did it launch? Meaning, was it upright?

4. For Conquest, although it is cool, I never quite understood the turtle neck look. Was there a specific reason?

5. For Battle, did Kolp appoint himself to be the governor?

Just curious and thank you for your time.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "S Man" <masonverger12@...> wrote:

>
> Hello, I apologize if these are bad questions or ones that have been answered previously. I am curious to see the responses.
>
> 1. In Planet, what does Taylor use for shaving cream to remove his beard?
>
> 2. In Beneath, what is the meaning of the exchange, "Are you thinking what I'm thinking?" "I'm thinking just that." ?
>
> 3. For Escape, if Dr. Milo half understood the ship, how indeed did it launch? Meaning, was it upright?
>
> 4. For Conquest, although it is cool, I never quite understood the turtle neck look. Was there a specific reason?
>
> 5. For Battle, did Kolp appoint himself to be the governor?
>
> Just curious and thank you for your time.
>

It could be anything that is similiar in the ape world, nothing to think about.

This happens all the time when buddys are in a dire situation or a common perticiment(spelling), they tend to think alike.


This is a suspension of disbelieif and leave as that, enjoy.


That was the fashion of the early 70s and I guess like the Neckercheif it would catch on

Well he was the only one left with any goverment experience so no competion.
Take care just my opinions, John M.

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In a message dated 6/26/2013 9:51:09 A.M. Central Daylight Time, johnmermigas@... writes:

> 1. In Planet, what does Taylor use for shaving cream to remove his beard?

Soap

>
> 2. In Beneath, what is the meaning of the exchange, "Are you thinking what I'm thinking?" "I'm thinking just that." ?

That's the pre-telepathy was of confirming telepathy.

>
> 3. For Escape, if Dr. Milo half understood the ship, how indeed did it launch? Meaning, was it upright?

Using the lake as a runway. Why not?

>
> 4. For Conquest, although it is cool, I never quite understood the turtle neck look. Was there a specific reason?
>

Some people thought they're looked cool . . . or hot.  They are neither.

> 5. For Battle, did Kolp appoint himself to be the governor?

 

Most likely martial law was declared and he was lieutenant governor.  Anyone who wanted a vote was thrown to the apes.

 

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To read the LESSON click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: https://pota.ediaarchive.com/LFTL.htm.

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Visit all the Group's special features including:

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Following on from the earlier postings, Ed Gross has said the new book should be 50% bigger and that there will be a RISE chapter AND, if the material and support is there, a full chapter on the TV SERIES. You can find Ed on Facebook and the Apes groups.So, anybody with special pics and material/merchandise etc from the TV Series, let Ed know. Next year is the 40th Anniversary for the tv series, so let's do right by it. John Scrolls.

Joe Russo, the author, posted a similar appeal recently:

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "softparadeband" wrote:
>
> We are assembling a revised and expanded edition of the 2001 book PLANET OF THE APES REVISITED.It will feature new material as well as the "classic" text on the original five 20th-Century Fox films.If anyone has any rare photographs or information they care to contribute to the project, we would appreciate your input. Please e-mail epshots @... if you have something you think should be included -thank you! J Russo
>

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" wrote:
>
> Following on from the earlier postings, Ed Gross has said the new book should be 50% bigger and that there will be a RISE chapter AND, if the material and support is there, a full chapter on the TV SERIES. You can find Ed on Facebook and the Apes groups.So, anybody with special pics and material/merchandise etc from the TV Series, let Ed know. Next year is the 40th Anniversary for the tv series, so let's do right by it. John Scrolls.
>

What about a chapter on POTA2001? Let's get our priorities straight!


From: johnroche49
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 5:03 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [pota] POTA Revisited



Following on from the earlier postings, Ed Gross has said the new book should be 50% bigger and that there will be a RISE chapter AND, if the material and support is there, a full chapter on the TV SERIES. You can find Ed on Facebook and the Apes groups.So, anybody with special pics and material/merchandise etc from the TV Series, let Ed know. Next year is the 40th Anniversary for the tv series, so let's do right by it. John Scrolls.

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Well, tell Joe and Ed! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> What about a chapter on POTA2001? Let's get our priorities straight!
>
>
> From: johnroche49
> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 5:03 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota] POTA Revisited
>
>
>
> Following on from the earlier postings, Ed Gross has said the new book should be 50% bigger and that there will be a RISE chapter AND, if the material and support is there, a full chapter on the TV SERIES. You can find Ed on Facebook and the Apes groups.So, anybody with special pics and material/merchandise etc from the TV Series, let Ed know. Next year is the 40th Anniversary for the tv series, so let's do right by it. John Scrolls.
>

Judy Greer tweets she's going to New Orleans Monday for her role as Cornelia. After getting cut out of "Rise", hopefully she'll finally have her big romantic scene with Caesar. He'll regret the day he taught her the word "No". I guess you might say they just joined the human race.

http://imdb.com/name/nm0339460/

Ridiculously, that little scene in the trailer where Caesar finds her and touches heads with Cornelia is one of my favourite Apes moments ever--and they bloody cut it from the movie! I'd love to see a 'restored' version, because Cornelia added some real heart to Caesar's dilemma---did he start the Revolution for love, not hate? Glad to se Cornelia will be a part of DAWN.John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Judy Greer tweets she's going to New Orleans Monday for her role as Cornelia. After getting cut out of "Rise", hopefully she'll finally have her big romantic scene with Caesar. He'll regret the day he taught her the word "No". I guess you might say they just joined the human race.
>
> http://imdb.com/name/nm0339460/
>

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Is Joe in this group? I love that book. I may have some rare pics from Ron Harper's collection that we bring to shows. I'll try posting some here. I am actually trying to get all my POTA clients booked as guests around the country but haven't been very successful except here in southern California. We represent 7 different actors from the TV series and film here at http://omegacelebritymgmt.com as a special guest we are having Don Murray at our tables at The Hollywood Show in two weeks.
 
Lee

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" wrote:
>
> Well, tell Joe and Ed! John, Scrolls.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." veetus@ wrote:
> >
> > What about a chapter on POTA2001? Let's get our priorities straight!
> >
> >
> > From: johnroche49
> > Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 5:03 AM
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [pota] POTA Revisited
> >
> >
> >
> > Following on from the earlier postings, Ed Gross has said the new book should be 50% bigger and that there will be a RISE chapter AND, if the material and support is there, a full chapter on the TV SERIES. You can find Ed on Facebook and the Apes groups.So, anybody with special pics and material/merchandise etc from the TV Series, let Ed know. Next year is the 40th Anniversary for the tv series, so let's do right by it. John Scrolls.
> >
>

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Would LOVE to see those pics! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "leeparmerter" <leeparmerter@...> wrote:
>
> Is Joe in this group? I love that book. I may have some rare pics from
> Ron Harper's collection that we bring to shows. I'll try posting some
> here. I am actually trying to get all my POTA clients booked as guests
> around the country but haven't been very successful except here in
> southern California. We represent 7 different actors from the TV series
> and film here at http://omegacelebritymgmt.com
> <http://omegacelebritymgmt.com> as a special guest we are having Don
> Murray at our tables at The Hollywood Show in two weeks.
>
> Lee
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" wrote:
> >
> > Well, tell Joe and Ed! John, Scrolls.
> >
> > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." veetus@ wrote:
> > >
> > > What about a chapter on POTA2001? Let's get our priorities
> straight!
> > >
> > >
> > > From: johnroche49
> > > Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 5:03 AM
> > > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [pota] POTA Revisited
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Following on from the earlier postings, Ed Gross has said the new
> book should be 50% bigger and that there will be a RISE chapter AND, if
> the material and support is there, a full chapter on the TV SERIES. You
> can find Ed on Facebook and the Apes groups.So, anybody with special
> pics and material/merchandise etc from the TV Series, let Ed know. Next
> year is the 40th Anniversary for the tv series, so let's do right by it.
> John Scrolls.
> > >
> >
>

Yes this is Joe Russo...we have gotten a lot of positive feedback and members of this board have already generously contributed some material we will use in the book. We plan to make this version of PLANET OF THE APES REVISITED very much revised and with a lot of extra written material and virtually all new photos.If fans have photos or material they would like to contribute, hi-res files should be sent to me at epshots@......contributors will be acknowledged. Our motive for this project from the beginning (way back in 1983) has always been to uncover and provide fans with exciting info and photos. So please support our efforts now if you can. Thank you in advance
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On Sun, 6/30/13, leeparmerter <leeparmerter@...> wrote:

Subject: [pota] Re: POTA Revisited
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, June 30, 2013, 12:58 PM



























Is Joe in this group? I love that book. I may have some rare
pics from Ron Harper's collection that we bring to
shows. I'll try posting some here. I am actually trying
to get all my POTA clients booked as guests around the
country but haven't been very successful except here in
southern California. We represent 7 different actors from
the TV series and film here at http://omegacelebritymgmt.com
as a special guest we are having Don Murray at our tables at
The Hollywood Show in two weeks.

Lee

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49"
wrote:
>
> Well, tell Joe and Ed! John, Scrolls.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K."
veetus@ wrote:
> >
> > What about a chapter on POTA2001? Let's get
our priorities straight!
> >
> >
> > From: johnroche49
> > Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 5:03 AM
> > To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [pota] POTA Revisited
> >
> >
> >
> > Following on from the earlier postings, Ed Gross
has said the new book should be 50% bigger and that there
will be a RISE chapter AND, if the material and support is
there, a full chapter on the TV SERIES. You can find Ed on
Facebook and the Apes groups.So, anybody with special pics
and material/merchandise etc from the TV Series, let Ed
know. Next year is the 40th Anniversary for the tv series,
so let's do right by it. John Scrolls.
> >
>

Message received. Personally, my focus in this project are the five classic films. Ed is the guy handling the newer sequels. We are preparing to include lots of new material that should satisfy all factions of the APES fan base. We appreciate your ongoing support and interest in the PLANET OF THE APES REVISITED legacy. We are very proud that the book has gotten so much highly praised recognition over the many years and is still highly regarded. It was an honor for me to be included in the blu-ray documentaries, and for our book to be sighted as "undoubtedly the most indispensible guide to the Apes saga" " by 20th Century-Fox (PLANET OF THE APES 40-YEAR EVOLUTION book in the blu-ray set). We plan to maintain the reputation we have with the new edition.
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On Sat, 6/29/13, johnroche49 <johnroche49@...> wrote:

Subject: [pota] Re: POTA Revisited
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, June 29, 2013, 5:01 PM


























Well, tell Joe and Ed! John, Scrolls.



--- In pota@yahoogroups.com,
"Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:

>

> What about a chapter on POTA2001? Let's get our
priorities straight!

>

>

> From: johnroche49

> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 5:03 AM

> To: pota@yahoogroups.com


> Subject: [pota] POTA Revisited

>

>

>

> Following on from the earlier postings, Ed Gross has
said the new book should be 50% bigger and that there will
be a RISE chapter AND, if the material and support is there,
a full chapter on the TV SERIES. You can find Ed on Facebook
and the Apes groups.So, anybody with special pics and
material/merchandise etc from the TV Series, let Ed know.
Next year is the 40th Anniversary for the tv series, so
let's do right by it. John Scrolls.

>

This actor is playing an ape in "Dawn" and sez they are about to start filming on the "epic" ape village set (probably why Cornelia is on the way). They are shooting near a real abandoned theme park (which might be good to use in a scene) in New Orleans.
https://www.facebook.com/RealNickThurston
Here's my take on the story so far (it's not a spoiler since it's just my guess). It sounds like "Battle" is the template with "good" and "bad" groups of both apes and humans. Of course Caesar serves the same role as the original Caesar, trying to keep the peace. You've got Koba as the bad ape like Aldo, who wants revenge or to take over the human territory. You've got the good humans. I think that would be represented by actors Jason Clarke, Keri Russell and Kodi Smit-McPhee (maybe a family?). Perhaps that shot that was released shows them as a human band going off on their own and befriending Caesar. They are like MacDonald & Co.

http://img.ly/images/7312429/full

Then there's the bad humans, represented by Gary Oldman, the Kolp of the story. It's said his character has a military and police background, so he leads the attack on the apes. Looks like the apes and humans battle it out in Old San Francisco. Maybe the Golden Gate Bridge separates them, with the apes in the redwoods and the humans in the old cities. Can't we all just get along?

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John,
I have posted some of those pics on my Planet of the Apes Facebook page for you and anyone else interested.

Joe,
Please like the page and let me know if there are any photos you are interested in and I will send you hi res scans.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Planet-of-the-Apes/172384539580937?ref=hl

Lee

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" wrote:
>
> Would LOVE to see those pics! John, Scrolls.
>

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Mighty Go Young

 

 

 

In a message dated 6/28/2013 12:01:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:

 

Well, I guess we can think of this as a warm-up for DAWN.  Looks like MIGHTY JOE YOUNG crossed with MR. BASEBALL.

 

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Message received. Personally, my focus in this project are the five classic films. Ed is the guy handling the newer sequels. We are preparing to include lots of new material that should satisfy all factions of the APES fan base. We appreciate your ongoing support and interest in the PLANET OF THE APES REVISITED legacy. We are very proud that the book has gotten so much highly praised recognition over the many years and is still highly regarded. It was an honor for me to be included in the blu-ray documentaries, and for our book to be sighted as "undoubtedly the most indispensible guide to the Apes saga" " by 20th Century-Fox (PLANET OF THE APES 40-YEAR EVOLUTION book in the blu-ray set). We plan to maintain the reputation we have with the new edition.

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Hey Tim-

I sure would--can you put together a ZIP folder of some hi-res images so I can see the type of set-up you have?
JR
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On Tue, 7/2/13, Tim <apefan23@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: POTA Revisited
To: "pota@yahoogroups.com" <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 2, 2013, 12:38 AM


























Hey Joe..Very excited that your
book will be getting even bigger and better than it already
is! I'm wondering if you would like good photos of any
POTA merchandise? I have a room full of stuff and some of my
high-res pics of it were featured in the blu-ray featurette.
Not sure if you are covering that aspect of the series but
thought i would check!Looking forward to the new
book!Tim
On Jul 1, 2013, at 1:28 AM, The Soft Parade softparadeband@...>
wrote:











Message received. Personally, my focus in this
project are the five classic films. Ed is the guy handling
the newer sequels. We are preparing to include lots of new
material that should satisfy all factions of the APES fan
base. We appreciate your ongoing support and interest in the
PLANET OF THE APES REVISITED legacy. We are very proud that
the book has gotten so much highly praised recognition over
the many years and is still highly regarded. It was an honor
for me to be included in the blu-ray documentaries, and for
our book to be sighted as "undoubtedly the most
indispensible guide to the Apes saga" " by 20th
Century-Fox (PLANET OF THE APES 40-YEAR EVOLUTION book in
the blu-ray set). We plan to maintain the reputation we have
with the new edition.

Joe,

We have a very big Photos section on the group: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/photos. You're welcome to copy anything that you want.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, The Soft Parade wrote:
>
> Hey Tim-
>
> I sure would--can you put together a ZIP folder of some hi-res images so I can see the type of set-up you have?
> JR

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• Cornelius' Journal - The Memoirs of Dr. Cornelius.
• Ape City Chronicles - The First 75 years of Ape City's history, written by Virgil.
• The Illustrated Monkey Planet - Hungarian comic adaptation of Pierre Boulle's original novel.
• The Mendez Dynasty - Keepers of the Divine Bomb.
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Thanks for the suggestion Bill, and greetings from Houston :-)

Unfortunately I couldn't find the DVD Apes collection at:

http://www.gohastings.com/

just the Blu Ray versions (which she can't view).

Either way, I hope you had an enjoyable 4th and that Dawn will be as good as we hope a year from now :-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Bill Hollweg <billhollweg@...> wrote:
>
> To a fellow Texan (I went to HS in Kingwood, and these days Live in the San
> Angelo Area)
> I saw that "Hastings" had the 5-DVD set for like 20$ when I was there
> yesterday
> (It was used, but I have had good luck with used DVD's there over the years)
>
>