Any Apes in there? John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
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> As I told you all a while ago, I discovered that Maurice Evans, who played Dr. Zaius in PLANET and BENEATH, wrote a memoir a few years before his death in 1989.
>
> Titled "All This... and Evans Too!" (University of South Carolina Press, 1987), used copies can still be found on Amazon.
>
>
>
>
> Here then is what he wrote about his time on the planet of the apes (pages 303-306). He gets his studio history a little mixed up, probably confusing 1967 history with events around the making of BENEATH in 1969, but that's okay, it's Dr. Zaius....
>
>
>
> "The old adage that one man's meat is another man's poison had to be read in reverse in the case of my next film assignment. The misfortunes of Twentieth Century Fox in the late 1960s caused a somewhat bizarre change of direction in my career.
>
> The enormous unrecouped cost of Cleopatra and the indifferent reception given to Dr. Doolittle were compounded by another financial problem. The studio had already shot the film version of the enormously popular stage musical comedy Hello Dolly, and the finished product was sitting on the shelf awaiting the termination of the run of the show on Broadway. That contractual inhibition was inviolate, so the new all-black version of Dolly played on to packed houses in New York. Meanwhile the film (starring Barbra Streisand) gathered dust in Twentieth's vaults. In desperation the studio turned to a script that had been shelved as impractical. It was a screen adaptation, by Rod Serling, of Pierre Boulle's novel, The Planet of the Apes. At long last producer Arthur P. Jacobs's persistence was rewarded by the green light to go ahead with a production in which only he had implicit confidence. Even so, I don't think he could have foreseen the tremendous audience appeal the screenplay contained. To the young generation it was exciting science fiction, but to their elders it was a sobering prophecy of a world in which apes had become supreme and humankind their slaves.
>
> Initially the producers (Jacobs and Abrahams) invited the talent agencies to comb their files for clients considered to possess simian features; it was thought that the addition of wigs and body hair would suffice. The tests, however, did not convince those in command that the resulting images would ever be taken seriously. Edward G. Robinson gallantly protested that he could pass muster with very little assistance from the makeup artists. When it was decided to create masks for the apes, he was told that daily makeup calls would be for 5 o'clock each morning and that the application of his three-piece mask would take from three to four hours. Eddie's doctor forbade him to submit himself to such a rigorous schedule. In that event, and without being given the same daunting details, I innocently agreed to substitute for him as the wily orangutan, Dr. Zaius.
>
> For me, the first step into the animal kingdom was the macabre experience of modeling for a plaster death mask of my face. Inches thick, the sticky stuff was slapped on and not until I was on the verge of suffocation were soda straws inserted through the wet plaster into my nostrils and mouth. To be imprisoned helplessly in that manner, praying for the plaster to dry in a hurry, was the oddest of sensations. Eventually, Johnny Chambers, creator of the ape makeup and expert torturer in chief, peeled off the beastly thing and bore it in triumph to his workshop, there to impose upon it the features that were to transform me into the philosophical orangutan. As a memento of Johnny's handiwork, I still treasure a milk-white plastic model of the death mask, and have been known to don it on Halloween to delight small children and to terrify sensitive ladies.
>
> As the shooting began on Planet of the Apes, I was very apprehensive, those first early mornings, of the claustrophobic effect of the latex mask, as I sat in the makeup chair. Roddy McDowall, slumped in the chair next to mine, fell fast asleep whilst being turned into a chimpanzee. Each of the three pieces of the mask -- the brow, the nose and upper lip, the lower lip and chin -- had to be most exactly glued into position and every joint covered with hundreds of individual hairs. Finally, the shaggy ginger wig was put on and, for the first few days, I had no hesitation in joining in the applause so richly deserved for Kenny Chase, my personal makeup artist. As the weeks wore on, the novelty wore off, so that it seemed perfectly normal, between scenes, to see one of my orangutan chums, pipe in mouth, poring over a game of chess with a gorilla.
>
> What one hadn't reckoned with was the fact that the mouth of an ape protrudes much further than that of a human being. Consequently, when the shooting on the set broke for lunch, it was impossible for us to assimilate food in the same manner as lucky Charlton Heston. A partial solution was hit upon by Alan [Evan's personal assistant], who obtained a pair of chopsticks with which he administered morsels of food to this semireclining ape. Overcome by hunger, on one occasion, I demanded spaghetti with meat sauce for lunch. I may say that, for eating spaghetti, chopsticks are entirely unsuitable instruments.
>
> From the actor's standpoint, the oft-repeated injunction to 'relax' is the most frustrating order. It was usually the assistant director's polite way of saying, 'Go back to your dressing room and stay there in case you are needed later in the day.' Trussed up as I was in a hairy disguise, relaxing was the last thing I was capable of, and my comfortable but stuffy trailer outside the sound stage was the least appropriate ambience. Those cooped-up conditions aroused in me an intense sympathy for wild animals confined in zoo cages. Inquisitive members of groups touring the studio would sometimes peer through the open door of my trailer to see me being forcibly fed by Alan, a sight that provoked unbridled mirth in their midst, and looks from me that could kill.
>
> During those many hours of inactivity, one was apt to forget what one looked like to others. I would exchange my heavy leather ape-clothing for a light dressing gown and smoke a cigarette through an elongated Noel Coward-type holder, and, if I were outside the trailer, I would sport a rather racy straw hat. Garbed thus on one occasion, I stepped out of the trailer to take the air, quite oblivious of my peculiar appearance. Approaching me down the studio street was a simply stunning blonde in deep conversation with, I guessed, her agent (lucky fellow!). I automatically squared my shoulders and prepared to flash her the most winning smile at my command. Becoming aware of the advancing apparition, she stopped dead, let out a squeal of delight, and, clapping her hands, said, 'You're wild!'
>
> At the end of a day's shooting, knowing that brand-new masking pieces were awaiting me on the morrow, I would tear off the mask of the day and make a dash for the car park. No longer imprisoned in makeup, I would drive home, happily content with my restored freedom to blow my nose, if needed, and to pop on my reading glasses at will. When, leaving in a hurry, I had omitted to remove black varnish from my primate's fingernails and the odd orange facial hair, I would sometimes get rather curious reactions from other drivers. One day, while waiting for the lights to change, the occupant in the vehicle abreast of me said, 'I've seen some oddballs in this town, but, buddy, you take the cake!'
>
> Another aspect of the orangutan physique -- the feet -- put my life at risk on a day that I was required to ride horseback on the sands of Zuma Beach. Our director, Franklin Schaffner, casually asked me if I rode. 'I haven't sat on a nag for ages,' I replied. He then explained that the scene about to be photographed showed me as Dr. Zaius at the head of a posse of mounted gorillas. Although he could substitute me with a stuntman for the chase, it was essential that, as the riders came to a halt, he could come in close with the camera to see me dismount. It would be far more to his liking, he said, if he could avoid the inevitable cut in the action as the stuntman and I swapped places.
>
> Thus I rashly volunteered to do the entire ride myself and, unaccustomed as I was to horses in general, spent what seemed to me many painful hours at full gallop with a gang of howling apes at my nervous heels. There was retake after retake, long pauses between them as the sand was restored to its original pristine condition, and not until the sun threatened to sink in the west did I pilot the bullyboys, uninterruptedly, to the place where I was to dismount. It was critical to the camera that I should rein in my fiery steed at an exact spot in the sand, marked by a sturdy stake sharpened at both ends. So far, so good. I proceeded to dismount, whereupon my oversized ape foot refused to part from the stirrup and I fell, one leg still at the horse's flank. Occupational hazards are not uncommon in the film business, but I think I narrowly missed being the first victim to be pierced through the heart by a piece of lumber. Had it been so, after a few crocodile tears and 'Poor old Evans,' the studio bosses would have congratulated themselves that, thanks to a store of duplicate masks, I was easily replaceable by someone with my fruity tones but less adventuresome spirit.
>
> The golden rule about acting is to get into the skin of the character you are playing. However, to follow that dictum when depicting an orangutan is a tall order. The encyclopedia reference on the subject seemed to suggest that in some respects I was not entirely a misfit. According to that article, I exceeded the average height of a Pongo pygmaeus -- without shoes -- by very few inches. By comparison, my arms were woefully short, since the knuckles of the ape I was aping actually touched the ground when the creature was in an upright position. On that score a modicum of poetic licence was inevitable. As far as my eyes were concerned, they were the regulation brown, and I could boast the identical number of teeth as Dr. Zaius, though some of mine, I have to confess, were courtesy of my dentist.
>
> One of the unusual features of the film, and of its sequel Beneath the Planet of the Apes, was that the actor behind the disguise was not identifiable except by the eyes or the voice. Due to the vast audiences both films attracted, Chuck Heston and his fellow humans were instantly recognised in public and were obliged to toe the boring line of autograph hunters, film festivals, and so forth. We lucky anthropoids, however, being quite unrecognisable, were free to go our normal, if not entirely blameless ways. On one occasion we were, nevertheless, the cause of corporal punishment unfairly administered by a mother to her small son. The company was on location near a small town in Utah. Lagging behind his mother on her shopping trip, the boy espied an unusual sight through the windows of the local diner. Catching up with his mother, the boy, breathless with excitement, said, 'Ma, d'you know what I just saw? A bunch of monkeys drinking milkshakes through straws!' For his pains he got a resounding smack on the bottom with a stern reproof for 'telling wicked stories.'
>
> Never have I felt so anonymous as when the film opened in New York City. The Capitol Theatre had erected an enormous billboard displaying an orangutan likeness. The caption blazoned above my head read, 'Thank you, Dr. Zaius,' but nobody knew it was me. Never mind! The public flocked to see what we were up to, and the movie was hailed as a classic by the critics, which, of course, made me feel at home. It also set a new pattern for science-fiction subjects, which in later years saw the development of such films as Star Wars."
>

You might want to try Ebay. If your friend doesn't mind buying used DVDs, he could get a good price there.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, George Taylor wrote:
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>       On a different front, I'd like for a friend who thoroughly enjoyed the original recently to be able to get the DVD (not Blu-Ray) collection of Apes sequels (Beneath, Escape, Conquest, Battle), the prequel (Rise) and possibly the revisiting (released in 2001).   Might anyone know of an upcoming sale anytime soon at, for example, Amazon.com ?    The last time she checked, prices for the collection weren't as economical as they have been in the past.  
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> Any thoughts?
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> Have a good rest of the weekend, from Houston, TX  :-)
>

Thanks Rory! Thank you for talking the time to transcribe all that for us!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> As I told you all a while ago, I discovered that Maurice Evans, who played Dr. Zaius in PLANET and BENEATH, wrote a memoir a few years before his death in 1989.
>
> Titled "All This... and Evans Too!" (University of South Carolina Press, 1987), used copies can still be found on Amazon.
>
>
>
>
> Here then is what he wrote about his time on the planet of the apes (pages 303-306). He gets his studio history a little mixed up, probably confusing 1967 history with events around the making of BENEATH in 1969, but that's okay, it's Dr. Zaius....
>
>
>
> "The old adage that one man's meat is another man's poison had to be read in reverse in the case of my next film assignment. The misfortunes of Twentieth Century Fox in the late 1960s caused a somewhat bizarre change of direction in my career.
>
> The enormous unrecouped cost of Cleopatra and the indifferent reception given to Dr. Doolittle were compounded by another financial problem. The studio had already shot the film version of the enormously popular stage musical comedy Hello Dolly, and the finished product was sitting on the shelf awaiting the termination of the run of the show on Broadway. That contractual inhibition was inviolate, so the new all-black version of Dolly played on to packed houses in New York. Meanwhile the film (starring Barbra Streisand) gathered dust in Twentieth's vaults. In desperation the studio turned to a script that had been shelved as impractical. It was a screen adaptation, by Rod Serling, of Pierre Boulle's novel, The Planet of the Apes. At long last producer Arthur P. Jacobs's persistence was rewarded by the green light to go ahead with a production in which only he had implicit confidence. Even so, I don't think he could have foreseen the tremendous audience appeal the screenplay contained. To the young generation it was exciting science fiction, but to their elders it was a sobering prophecy of a world in which apes had become supreme and humankind their slaves.
>
> Initially the producers (Jacobs and Abrahams) invited the talent agencies to comb their files for clients considered to possess simian features; it was thought that the addition of wigs and body hair would suffice. The tests, however, did not convince those in command that the resulting images would ever be taken seriously. Edward G. Robinson gallantly protested that he could pass muster with very little assistance from the makeup artists. When it was decided to create masks for the apes, he was told that daily makeup calls would be for 5 o'clock each morning and that the application of his three-piece mask would take from three to four hours. Eddie's doctor forbade him to submit himself to such a rigorous schedule. In that event, and without being given the same daunting details, I innocently agreed to substitute for him as the wily orangutan, Dr. Zaius.
>
> For me, the first step into the animal kingdom was the macabre experience of modeling for a plaster death mask of my face. Inches thick, the sticky stuff was slapped on and not until I was on the verge of suffocation were soda straws inserted through the wet plaster into my nostrils and mouth. To be imprisoned helplessly in that manner, praying for the plaster to dry in a hurry, was the oddest of sensations. Eventually, Johnny Chambers, creator of the ape makeup and expert torturer in chief, peeled off the beastly thing and bore it in triumph to his workshop, there to impose upon it the features that were to transform me into the philosophical orangutan. As a memento of Johnny's handiwork, I still treasure a milk-white plastic model of the death mask, and have been known to don it on Halloween to delight small children and to terrify sensitive ladies.
>
> As the shooting began on Planet of the Apes, I was very apprehensive, those first early mornings, of the claustrophobic effect of the latex mask, as I sat in the makeup chair. Roddy McDowall, slumped in the chair next to mine, fell fast asleep whilst being turned into a chimpanzee. Each of the three pieces of the mask -- the brow, the nose and upper lip, the lower lip and chin -- had to be most exactly glued into position and every joint covered with hundreds of individual hairs. Finally, the shaggy ginger wig was put on and, for the first few days, I had no hesitation in joining in the applause so richly deserved for Kenny Chase, my personal makeup artist. As the weeks wore on, the novelty wore off, so that it seemed perfectly normal, between scenes, to see one of my orangutan chums, pipe in mouth, poring over a game of chess with a gorilla.
>
> What one hadn't reckoned with was the fact that the mouth of an ape protrudes much further than that of a human being. Consequently, when the shooting on the set broke for lunch, it was impossible for us to assimilate food in the same manner as lucky Charlton Heston. A partial solution was hit upon by Alan [Evan's personal assistant], who obtained a pair of chopsticks with which he administered morsels of food to this semireclining ape. Overcome by hunger, on one occasion, I demanded spaghetti with meat sauce for lunch. I may say that, for eating spaghetti, chopsticks are entirely unsuitable instruments.
>
> From the actor's standpoint, the oft-repeated injunction to 'relax' is the most frustrating order. It was usually the assistant director's polite way of saying, 'Go back to your dressing room and stay there in case you are needed later in the day.' Trussed up as I was in a hairy disguise, relaxing was the last thing I was capable of, and my comfortable but stuffy trailer outside the sound stage was the least appropriate ambience. Those cooped-up conditions aroused in me an intense sympathy for wild animals confined in zoo cages. Inquisitive members of groups touring the studio would sometimes peer through the open door of my trailer to see me being forcibly fed by Alan, a sight that provoked unbridled mirth in their midst, and looks from me that could kill.
>
> During those many hours of inactivity, one was apt to forget what one looked like to others. I would exchange my heavy leather ape-clothing for a light dressing gown and smoke a cigarette through an elongated Noel Coward-type holder, and, if I were outside the trailer, I would sport a rather racy straw hat. Garbed thus on one occasion, I stepped out of the trailer to take the air, quite oblivious of my peculiar appearance. Approaching me down the studio street was a simply stunning blonde in deep conversation with, I guessed, her agent (lucky fellow!). I automatically squared my shoulders and prepared to flash her the most winning smile at my command. Becoming aware of the advancing apparition, she stopped dead, let out a squeal of delight, and, clapping her hands, said, 'You're wild!'
>
> At the end of a day's shooting, knowing that brand-new masking pieces were awaiting me on the morrow, I would tear off the mask of the day and make a dash for the car park. No longer imprisoned in makeup, I would drive home, happily content with my restored freedom to blow my nose, if needed, and to pop on my reading glasses at will. When, leaving in a hurry, I had omitted to remove black varnish from my primate's fingernails and the odd orange facial hair, I would sometimes get rather curious reactions from other drivers. One day, while waiting for the lights to change, the occupant in the vehicle abreast of me said, 'I've seen some oddballs in this town, but, buddy, you take the cake!'
>
> Another aspect of the orangutan physique -- the feet -- put my life at risk on a day that I was required to ride horseback on the sands of Zuma Beach. Our director, Franklin Schaffner, casually asked me if I rode. 'I haven't sat on a nag for ages,' I replied. He then explained that the scene about to be photographed showed me as Dr. Zaius at the head of a posse of mounted gorillas. Although he could substitute me with a stuntman for the chase, it was essential that, as the riders came to a halt, he could come in close with the camera to see me dismount. It would be far more to his liking, he said, if he could avoid the inevitable cut in the action as the stuntman and I swapped places.
>
> Thus I rashly volunteered to do the entire ride myself and, unaccustomed as I was to horses in general, spent what seemed to me many painful hours at full gallop with a gang of howling apes at my nervous heels. There was retake after retake, long pauses between them as the sand was restored to its original pristine condition, and not until the sun threatened to sink in the west did I pilot the bullyboys, uninterruptedly, to the place where I was to dismount. It was critical to the camera that I should rein in my fiery steed at an exact spot in the sand, marked by a sturdy stake sharpened at both ends. So far, so good. I proceeded to dismount, whereupon my oversized ape foot refused to part from the stirrup and I fell, one leg still at the horse's flank. Occupational hazards are not uncommon in the film business, but I think I narrowly missed being the first victim to be pierced through the heart by a piece of lumber. Had it been so, after a few crocodile tears and 'Poor old Evans,' the studio bosses would have congratulated themselves that, thanks to a store of duplicate masks, I was easily replaceable by someone with my fruity tones but less adventuresome spirit.
>
> The golden rule about acting is to get into the skin of the character you are playing. However, to follow that dictum when depicting an orangutan is a tall order. The encyclopedia reference on the subject seemed to suggest that in some respects I was not entirely a misfit. According to that article, I exceeded the average height of a Pongo pygmaeus -- without shoes -- by very few inches. By comparison, my arms were woefully short, since the knuckles of the ape I was aping actually touched the ground when the creature was in an upright position. On that score a modicum of poetic licence was inevitable. As far as my eyes were concerned, they were the regulation brown, and I could boast the identical number of teeth as Dr. Zaius, though some of mine, I have to confess, were courtesy of my dentist.
>
> One of the unusual features of the film, and of its sequel Beneath the Planet of the Apes, was that the actor behind the disguise was not identifiable except by the eyes or the voice. Due to the vast audiences both films attracted, Chuck Heston and his fellow humans were instantly recognised in public and were obliged to toe the boring line of autograph hunters, film festivals, and so forth. We lucky anthropoids, however, being quite unrecognisable, were free to go our normal, if not entirely blameless ways. On one occasion we were, nevertheless, the cause of corporal punishment unfairly administered by a mother to her small son. The company was on location near a small town in Utah. Lagging behind his mother on her shopping trip, the boy espied an unusual sight through the windows of the local diner. Catching up with his mother, the boy, breathless with excitement, said, 'Ma, d'you know what I just saw? A bunch of monkeys drinking milkshakes through straws!' For his pains he got a resounding smack on the bottom with a stern reproof for 'telling wicked stories.'
>
> Never have I felt so anonymous as when the film opened in New York City. The Capitol Theatre had erected an enormous billboard displaying an orangutan likeness. The caption blazoned above my head read, 'Thank you, Dr. Zaius,' but nobody knew it was me. Never mind! The public flocked to see what we were up to, and the movie was hailed as a classic by the critics, which, of course, made me feel at home. It also set a new pattern for science-fiction subjects, which in later years saw the development of such films as Star Wars."
>

Yes, thanks Rory! Love to see this kind of info discovered.

--Mike

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Rory! Thank you for talking the time to transcribe all that for
> us!
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@ wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > As I told you all a while ago, I discovered that Maurice Evans, who
> played Dr. Zaius in PLANET and BENEATH, wrote a memoir a few years
> before his death in 1989.
> >
> > Titled "All This... and Evans Too!" (University of South Carolina
> Press, 1987), used copies can still be found on Amazon.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Here then is what he wrote about his time on the planet of the apes
> (pages 303-306). He gets his studio history a little mixed up, probably
> confusing 1967 history with events around the making of BENEATH in 1969,
> but that's okay, it's Dr. Zaius....
> >
> >
> >
> > "The old adage that one man's meat is another man's poison had to be
> read in reverse in the case of my next film assignment. The misfortunes
> of Twentieth Century Fox in the late 1960s caused a somewhat bizarre
> change of direction in my career.
> >
> > The enormous unrecouped cost of Cleopatra and the indifferent
> reception given to Dr. Doolittle were compounded by another financial
> problem. The studio had already shot the film version of the enormously
> popular stage musical comedy Hello Dolly, and the finished product was
> sitting on the shelf awaiting the termination of the run of the show on
> Broadway. That contractual inhibition was inviolate, so the new
> all-black version of Dolly played on to packed houses in New York.
> Meanwhile the film (starring Barbra Streisand) gathered dust in
> Twentieth's vaults. In desperation the studio turned to a script that
> had been shelved as impractical. It was a screen adaptation, by Rod
> Serling, of Pierre Boulle's novel, The Planet of the Apes. At long last
> producer Arthur P. Jacobs's persistence was rewarded by the green light
> to go ahead with a production in which only he had implicit confidence.
> Even so, I don't think he could have foreseen the tremendous audience
> appeal the screenplay contained. To the young generation it was exciting
> science fiction, but to their elders it was a sobering prophecy of a
> world in which apes had become supreme and humankind their slaves.
> >
> > Initially the producers (Jacobs and Abrahams) invited the talent
> agencies to comb their files for clients considered to possess simian
> features; it was thought that the addition of wigs and body hair would
> suffice. The tests, however, did not convince those in command that the
> resulting images would ever be taken seriously. Edward G. Robinson
> gallantly protested that he could pass muster with very little
> assistance from the makeup artists. When it was decided to create masks
> for the apes, he was told that daily makeup calls would be for 5 o'clock
> each morning and that the application of his three-piece mask would take
> from three to four hours. Eddie's doctor forbade him to submit himself
> to such a rigorous schedule. In that event, and without being given the
> same daunting details, I innocently agreed to substitute for him as the
> wily orangutan, Dr. Zaius.
> >
> > For me, the first step into the animal kingdom was the macabre
> experience of modeling for a plaster death mask of my face. Inches
> thick, the sticky stuff was slapped on and not until I was on the verge
> of suffocation were soda straws inserted through the wet plaster into my
> nostrils and mouth. To be imprisoned helplessly in that manner, praying
> for the plaster to dry in a hurry, was the oddest of sensations.
> Eventually, Johnny Chambers, creator of the ape makeup and expert
> torturer in chief, peeled off the beastly thing and bore it in triumph
> to his workshop, there to impose upon it the features that were to
> transform me into the philosophical orangutan. As a memento of Johnny's
> handiwork, I still treasure a milk-white plastic model of the death
> mask, and have been known to don it on Halloween to delight small
> children and to terrify sensitive ladies.
> >
> > As the shooting began on Planet of the Apes, I was very apprehensive,
> those first early mornings, of the claustrophobic effect of the latex
> mask, as I sat in the makeup chair. Roddy McDowall, slumped in the chair
> next to mine, fell fast asleep whilst being turned into a chimpanzee.
> Each of the three pieces of the mask -- the brow, the nose and upper
> lip, the lower lip and chin -- had to be most exactly glued into
> position and every joint covered with hundreds of individual hairs.
> Finally, the shaggy ginger wig was put on and, for the first few days, I
> had no hesitation in joining in the applause so richly deserved for
> Kenny Chase, my personal makeup artist. As the weeks wore on, the
> novelty wore off, so that it seemed perfectly normal, between scenes, to
> see one of my orangutan chums, pipe in mouth, poring over a game of
> chess with a gorilla.
> >
> > What one hadn't reckoned with was the fact that the mouth of an ape
> protrudes much further than that of a human being. Consequently, when
> the shooting on the set broke for lunch, it was impossible for us to
> assimilate food in the same manner as lucky Charlton Heston. A partial
> solution was hit upon by Alan [Evan's personal assistant], who obtained
> a pair of chopsticks with which he administered morsels of food to this
> semireclining ape. Overcome by hunger, on one occasion, I demanded
> spaghetti with meat sauce for lunch. I may say that, for eating
> spaghetti, chopsticks are entirely unsuitable instruments.
> >
> > From the actor's standpoint, the oft-repeated injunction to 'relax' is
> the most frustrating order. It was usually the assistant director's
> polite way of saying, 'Go back to your dressing room and stay there in
> case you are needed later in the day.' Trussed up as I was in a hairy
> disguise, relaxing was the last thing I was capable of, and my
> comfortable but stuffy trailer outside the sound stage was the least
> appropriate ambience. Those cooped-up conditions aroused in me an
> intense sympathy for wild animals confined in zoo cages. Inquisitive
> members of groups touring the studio would sometimes peer through the
> open door of my trailer to see me being forcibly fed by Alan, a sight
> that provoked unbridled mirth in their midst, and looks from me that
> could kill.
> >
> > During those many hours of inactivity, one was apt to forget what one
> looked like to others. I would exchange my heavy leather ape-clothing
> for a light dressing gown and smoke a cigarette through an elongated
> Noel Coward-type holder, and, if I were outside the trailer, I would
> sport a rather racy straw hat. Garbed thus on one occasion, I stepped
> out of the trailer to take the air, quite oblivious of my peculiar
> appearance. Approaching me down the studio street was a simply stunning
> blonde in deep conversation with, I guessed, her agent (lucky fellow!).
> I automatically squared my shoulders and prepared to flash her the most
> winning smile at my command. Becoming aware of the advancing apparition,
> she stopped dead, let out a squeal of delight, and, clapping her hands,
> said, 'You're wild!'
> >
> > At the end of a day's shooting, knowing that brand-new masking pieces
> were awaiting me on the morrow, I would tear off the mask of the day and
> make a dash for the car park. No longer imprisoned in makeup, I would
> drive home, happily content with my restored freedom to blow my nose, if
> needed, and to pop on my reading glasses at will. When, leaving in a
> hurry, I had omitted to remove black varnish from my primate's
> fingernails and the odd orange facial hair, I would sometimes get rather
> curious reactions from other drivers. One day, while waiting for the
> lights to change, the occupant in the vehicle abreast of me said, 'I've
> seen some oddballs in this town, but, buddy, you take the cake!'
> >
> > Another aspect of the orangutan physique -- the feet -- put my life at
> risk on a day that I was required to ride horseback on the sands of Zuma
> Beach. Our director, Franklin Schaffner, casually asked me if I rode. 'I
> haven't sat on a nag for ages,' I replied. He then explained that the
> scene about to be photographed showed me as Dr. Zaius at the head of a
> posse of mounted gorillas. Although he could substitute me with a
> stuntman for the chase, it was essential that, as the riders came to a
> halt, he could come in close with the camera to see me dismount. It
> would be far more to his liking, he said, if he could avoid the
> inevitable cut in the action as the stuntman and I swapped places.
> >
> > Thus I rashly volunteered to do the entire ride myself and,
> unaccustomed as I was to horses in general, spent what seemed to me many
> painful hours at full gallop with a gang of howling apes at my nervous
> heels. There was retake after retake, long pauses between them as the
> sand was restored to its original pristine condition, and not until the
> sun threatened to sink in the west did I pilot the bullyboys,
> uninterruptedly, to the place where I was to dismount. It was critical
> to the camera that I should rein in my fiery steed at an exact spot in
> the sand, marked by a sturdy stake sharpened at both ends. So far, so
> good. I proceeded to dismount, whereupon my oversized ape foot refused
> to part from the stirrup and I fell, one leg still at the horse's flank.
> Occupational hazards are not uncommon in the film business, but I think
> I narrowly missed being the first victim to be pierced through the heart
> by a piece of lumber. Had it been so, after a few crocodile tears and
> 'Poor old Evans,' the studio bosses would have congratulated themselves
> that, thanks to a store of duplicate masks, I was easily replaceable by
> someone with my fruity tones but less adventuresome spirit.
> >
> > The golden rule about acting is to get into the skin of the character
> you are playing. However, to follow that dictum when depicting an
> orangutan is a tall order. The encyclopedia reference on the subject
> seemed to suggest that in some respects I was not entirely a misfit.
> According to that article, I exceeded the average height of a Pongo
> pygmaeus -- without shoes -- by very few inches. By comparison, my arms
> were woefully short, since the knuckles of the ape I was aping actually
> touched the ground when the creature was in an upright position. On that
> score a modicum of poetic licence was inevitable. As far as my eyes were
> concerned, they were the regulation brown, and I could boast the
> identical number of teeth as Dr. Zaius, though some of mine, I have to
> confess, were courtesy of my dentist.
> >
> > One of the unusual features of the film, and of its sequel Beneath the
> Planet of the Apes, was that the actor behind the disguise was not
> identifiable except by the eyes or the voice. Due to the vast audiences
> both films attracted, Chuck Heston and his fellow humans were instantly
> recognised in public and were obliged to toe the boring line of
> autograph hunters, film festivals, and so forth. We lucky anthropoids,
> however, being quite unrecognisable, were free to go our normal, if not
> entirely blameless ways. On one occasion we were, nevertheless, the
> cause of corporal punishment unfairly administered by a mother to her
> small son. The company was on location near a small town in Utah.
> Lagging behind his mother on her shopping trip, the boy espied an
> unusual sight through the windows of the local diner. Catching up with
> his mother, the boy, breathless with excitement, said, 'Ma, d'you know
> what I just saw? A bunch of monkeys drinking milkshakes through straws!'
> For his pains he got a resounding smack on the bottom with a stern
> reproof for 'telling wicked stories.'
> >
> > Never have I felt so anonymous as when the film opened in New York
> City. The Capitol Theatre had erected an enormous billboard displaying
> an orangutan likeness. The caption blazoned above my head read, 'Thank
> you, Dr. Zaius,' but nobody knew it was me. Never mind! The public
> flocked to see what we were up to, and the movie was hailed as a classic
> by the critics, which, of course, made me feel at home. It also set a
> new pattern for science-fiction subjects, which in later years saw the
> development of such films as Star Wars."
> >
>

Yes, thanks. A great read!

----- Original Message -----
From: "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...>
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, July 8, 2013 9:45:42 AM
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Thanks Rory! Thank you for talking the time to transcribe all that for us!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
>
>
> As I told you all a while ago, I discovered that Maurice Evans, who played Dr. Zaius in PLANET and BENEATH, wrote a memoir a few years before his death in 1989.
>
> Titled "All This... and Evans Too!" (University of South Carolina Press, 1987), used copies can still be found on Amazon.
>
>
>
>

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Greetings from Big D!

 

In a message dated 7/7/2013 10:14:28 A.M. Central Daylight Time, georgetaylor68@... writes:

Thanks for the suggestion Bill, and greetings from Houston :-)

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If you're wondering why Kim looks so out of it, it's because after she described the makeup process to her doctor he put her on valium.  After a while though she thought she could get through it without having to take her meds. That was the day Leo told her to take her damn pill or get another makeup artist.  LOL!

 

 

 

In a message dated 7/8/2013 4:18:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time, billburge48@... writes:

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Tremendous effort, thanks.Fascinating read! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Rory! Thank you for talking the time to transcribe all that for
> us!
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@ wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > As I told you all a while ago, I discovered that Maurice Evans, who
> played Dr. Zaius in PLANET and BENEATH, wrote a memoir a few years
> before his death in 1989.
> >
> > Titled "All This... and Evans Too!" (University of South Carolina
> Press, 1987), used copies can still be found on Amazon.
> >
> >
> >
> >

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Maybe this has been brought up but check out the artwork in the POTA Evolution blu-ray set:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwKXoFOQVLo

Looks like "Dawn of the POTA" has two more weeks to shoot and then they can concentrate on making a monkey out of Andy Serkis and the gang. Sounds like they had a lot of night shooting. I reckon the penultimate ape/human fight will be at night. You OK with that? It's always darkest before the dawn.
'Twould be groovy if they could sellabrate the end of shooting with a trip to Comic Con on July 20th but we just don't live in that kind of a world, Thelma!

https://twitter.com/michaelabooming/status/354598090155630593

Thanks :-)

I've forwarded the following EBay auctions link to her:


http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.XPlanet+of+the+Apes+DVD.TRS0&_nkw=Planet+of+the+Apes+DVD&_sacat=0&_from=R40


Cheers, and may Dawn not disappoint :-)
GT

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> You might want to try Ebay. If your friend doesn't mind buying used
> DVDs, he could get a good price there.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, George Taylor wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On a different front, I'd like for a friend who thoroughly
> enjoyed the original recently to be able to get the DVD (not Blu-Ray)
> collection of Apes sequels (Beneath, Escape, Conquest, Battle), the
> prequel (Rise) and possibly the revisiting (released in 2001). Might
> anyone know of an upcoming sale anytime soon at, for example, Amazon.com
> ? The last time she checked, prices for the collection weren't as
> economical as they have been in the past.
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > Have a good rest of the weekend, from Houston, TX :-)
> >
>

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Fox has announced that attendees of next week's San Diego Comic-Con can get their stinkin' paws on a POTA blu-ray with exclusive cover art. Before you look at the cover I hope you've had enough sleep or you might nod off. There's also exclusives for Fox's '50's classics "The Fly" and "The Day the Earth Stood Still".
Fox has time reserved for late Saturday July 20th to present something, but no details. Probably "Wolverine" and "X-Men" but maybe something for "Dawn of the POTA".

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/10/comic-con-foxs-exclusive-sci-fi-blu-rays-revealed

If it's a night battle, then the movie will end with an iconic image of Caesar,on horseback, rifle held over his head, greeting the DAWN !!! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Looks like "Dawn of the POTA" has two more weeks to shoot and then they can concentrate on making a monkey out of Andy Serkis and the gang. Sounds like they had a lot of night shooting. I reckon the penultimate ape/human fight will be at night. You OK with that? It's always darkest before the dawn.
> 'Twould be groovy if they could sellabrate the end of shooting with a trip to Comic Con on July 20th but we just don't live in that kind of a world, Thelma!
>
> https://twitter.com/michaelabooming/status/354598090155630593
>

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That's actually pretty cool--retro and chic!!! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Fox has announced that attendees of next week's San Diego Comic-Con can get their stinkin' paws on a POTA blu-ray with exclusive cover art. Before you look at the cover I hope you've had enough sleep or you might nod off. There's also exclusives for Fox's '50's classics "The Fly" and "The Day the Earth Stood Still".
> Fox has time reserved for late Saturday July 20th to present something, but no details. Probably "Wolverine" and "X-Men" but maybe something for "Dawn of the POTA".
>
> http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/07/10/comic-con-foxs-exclusive-sci-fi-blu-rays-revealed
>

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Good morning everybody! The new LESSON FROM THE LAWGIVER is now online. Thanks to Glen and everyone that contributed.

To read the LESSON click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use this link: https://pota.ediaarchive.com/LFTL.htm.

Have a great weekend!

Visit all the Group's special features including:

• The Group Website - Original POTA One Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much more.
• Marvel Archive - Online archive of Marvel Comics' adaptations of the original POTA movies.
• Cornelius' Journal - The Memoirs of Dr. Cornelius.
• Ape City Chronicles - The First 75 years of Ape City's history, written by Virgil.
• The Illustrated Monkey Planet - Hungarian comic adaptation of Pierre Boulle's original novel.
• The Mendez Dynasty - Keepers of the Divine Bomb.
• The Ape - Ape City's Weekly Newspaper.
• POTA Locations - The places where the POTA films were shot.
• The Art Gallery - Works of POTA Art by our members.
• The Database Section - POTA info ranging from Characters to Comics.

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Meet the cast of ther series and film this weekend at The Hollywood Show in Los Angeles! Ron Harper, Booth Coleman, Linda Harrison and more!

http://hollywoodshow.com/main.php

Is this the origin of the TV Series rifle waving pose? Great read, as always! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
>
> Good morning everybody! The new LESSON FROM THE LAWGIVER is now online.
> Thanks to Glen and everyone that contributed.
>
> To read the LESSON click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use
> this link: https://pota.ediaarchive.com/LFTL.htm
> <https://pota.ediaarchive.com/LFTL.htm> .
>
>
>
>
> Have a great weekend!
>
>
>
> Visit all the Group's special features including:
>
> * The Group Website <http://tinyurl.com/8wsrzkw> - Original POTA One
> Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much,
> much more. * Marvel Archive <http://tinyurl.com/b362opx> - Online
> archive of Marvel Comics' adaptations of the original POTA movies. *
> Cornelius' Journal <https://pota.ediaarchive.com/cj.htm> - The Memoirs
> of Dr. Cornelius. * Ape City Chronicles
> <http://www.potamediaarchive.com/ACC.htm> - The First 75 years of Ape
> City's history, written by Virgil. * The Illustrated Monkey Planet
> <http://www.potamediaarchive.com/MPC.htm> - Hungarian comic adaptation
> of Pierre Boulle's original novel. * The Mendez Dynasty
> <http://www.potamediaarchive.com/MD.htm> - Keepers of the Divine Bomb.
> * The Ape <https://pota.ediaarchive.com/TheApe.htm> - Ape City's Weekly
> Newspaper. * POTA Locations <http://tinyurl.com/cwja8x6> - The
> places where the POTA films were shot. * The Art Gallery
> <http://tinyurl.com/bnepmtb> - Works of POTA Art by our members. *
> The Database Section
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/database> - POTA info
> ranging from Characters to Comics.
>

Thank you, John...Glad you enjoy them...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" <johnroche49@...> wrote:
>
>
> Is this the origin of the TV Series rifle waving pose? Great read, as always! John, Scrolls.
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Good morning everybody! The new LESSON FROM THE LAWGIVER is now online.
> > Thanks to Glen and everyone that contributed.
> >
> > To read the LESSON click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use
> > this link: https://pota.ediaarchive.com/LFTL.htm
> > <https://pota.ediaarchive.com/LFTL.htm> .
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Have a great weekend!
> >
> >
> >
> > Visit all the Group's special features including:
> >
> > * The Group Website <http://tinyurl.com/8wsrzkw> - Original POTA One
> > Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much,
> > much more. * Marvel Archive <http://tinyurl.com/b362opx> - Online
> > archive of Marvel Comics' adaptations of the original POTA movies. *
> > Cornelius' Journal <https://pota.ediaarchive.com/cj.htm> - The Memoirs
> > of Dr. Cornelius. * Ape City Chronicles
> > <http://www.potamediaarchive.com/ACC.htm> - The First 75 years of Ape
> > City's history, written by Virgil. * The Illustrated Monkey Planet
> > <http://www.potamediaarchive.com/MPC.htm> - Hungarian comic adaptation
> > of Pierre Boulle's original novel. * The Mendez Dynasty
> > <http://www.potamediaarchive.com/MD.htm> - Keepers of the Divine Bomb.
> > * The Ape <https://pota.ediaarchive.com/TheApe.htm> - Ape City's Weekly
> > Newspaper. * POTA Locations <http://tinyurl.com/cwja8x6> - The
> > places where the POTA films were shot. * The Art Gallery
> > <http://tinyurl.com/bnepmtb> - Works of POTA Art by our members. *
> > The Database Section
> > <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/database> - POTA info
> > ranging from Characters to Comics.
> >
>

Thank you, Bill...Glad you like them...

G

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Bill Hollweg <billhollweg@...> wrote:
>
> YES!
> Love the Friday Lesson!!!!
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 6:54 AM, jamesa1102 <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> > *Good morning everybody! The new LESSON FROM THE LAWGIVER is now online.
> > Thanks to Glen and everyone that contributed. *
> >
> > *To read the LESSON click on the banner on the Yahoo Home page or use
> > this link: https://pota.ediaarchive.com/LFTL.htm.*
> >
> > **
> >
> > *Have a great weekend!*
> >
> > *
> >
> > Visit all the Group's special features including:
> >
> > - The Group Website <http://tinyurl.com/8wsrzkw> - Original POTA One
> > Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much
> > more.
> > - Marvel Archive <http://tinyurl.com/b362opx> - Online archive of
> > Marvel Comics' adaptations of the original POTA movies.
> > - Cornelius' Journal <https://pota.ediaarchive.com/cj.htm> - The
> > Memoirs of Dr. Cornelius.
> > - Ape City Chronicles <http://www.potamediaarchive.com/ACC.htm> - The
> > First 75 years of Ape City's history, written by Virgil.
> > - The Illustrated Monkey Planet<http://www.potamediaarchive.com/MPC.htm> -
> > Hungarian comic adaptation of Pierre Boulle's original novel.
> > - The Mendez Dynasty <http://www.potamediaarchive.com/MD.htm> -
> > Keepers of the Divine Bomb.
> > - The Ape <https://pota.ediaarchive.com/TheApe.htm> - Ape City's Weekly
> > Newspaper.
> > - POTA Locations <http://tinyurl.com/cwja8x6> - The places where the
> > POTA films were shot.
> > - The Art Gallery <http://tinyurl.com/bnepmtb> - Works of POTA Art by
> > our members.
> > - The Database Section<http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/database> -
> > POTA info ranging from Characters to Comics.
> >
> > *
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Bill Hollweg
> Have Sword...
> Will Slay...
> Barbarian in need of Ale...
> Check out my Audio Drama Productions-
> Bill Hollweg
> Lord of Design for BrokenSea Audio
> And the other half of "The Brothers of Kaboom... BY FRACKIN' CROM!
> http://brokensea.com/ <http://www.brokensea.net/>
> The Saga of the Grog and Gryphon @
> http://brokensea.com/grog/ and
> http://www.westlakefilms.co.uk
> Planet of the Apes/BPOTA at
> http://brokensea.com/pota/
> http://brokensea.com/bpota/ <http://www.brokensea.com/>
> and
> Ulysses-Galactic Guides & Bounty Hunting
> http://brokensea.com/ulysses/ and
> CONAN the Audio Book and Audio Drama
> http://www.archive.org/details/ConanQueenOftheBlackCoastRobertEHowardFullCastAudio
> OTR SwagCast http://brokensea.com/otr/
>

Represent! Looks like "Dawn of the POTA" will be at Comic-Con next weekend ( Sat. July 20th around 4ish). Andy Serkis, Jason Clarke, Keri Russell (you know her as Felicity) and director Matt Reeves are scheduled to ape-tend. Could there be a teaser trailer? Perchance. I'm sure they've been working on the apes all along so they might have something to show. I'd be interested in a scene between humans so we have an idea where it's going. If not, I'm sure will learn something new if they're bringing the gang down.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/comic-con-fox-bringing-wolverine-584688

Think wood! Remember, they live in a redwood forest.
Also, they're going to San Francisco at the end of the month for some establishing shots.

http://instagram.com/p/brK_l8i__U/#

GLEEEP!!! Can't wait to see something!!! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> Represent! Looks like "Dawn of the POTA" will be at Comic-Con next weekend ( Sat. July 20th around 4ish). Andy Serkis, Jason Clarke, Keri Russell (you know her as Felicity) and director Matt Reeves are scheduled to ape-tend. Could there be a teaser trailer? Perchance. I'm sure they've been working on the apes all along so they might have something to show. I'd be interested in a scene between humans so we have an idea where it's going. If not, I'm sure will learn something new if they're bringing the gang down.
>
> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/comic-con-fox-bringing-wolverine-584688
>

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Almost brings a tear to my eye, thanks William. John M.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, William Burge <billburge48@...> wrote:
>
> dear group, Here is a drive in theatre marquee from everett , washington -june 1968 enjoy from william
>

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Hello all:
Just a year away from Dawn's arrival :-)

By the way, might the scene at minute 2:40 (onward) be approaching right where the glorious 1968 POTA concluded?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0KNpXMKHaI

I recall that a glass-based painting was used to enhance the final scene of that wonderful 1968 movie. At any rate, is it sad that a music video has apparently been made there? Or is it merely inconsequential? At any rate, it does make the backdrop seem less exotic and memorable when it's made so readily available in other outlets. Arthur P. Jacobs, etc., didn't have much reason to predict that Youtube would emerge someday though, let alone MTV :-)

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All previous issue are fre to download now on Hunter's page:
https://pota.goatley.com/scrolls.html" John, Scrolls.

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This looks similar, but I don't think this is Westward Beach. In the video you can see a large rock offshore, there's no rock like that at Point Dume.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "georgetaylor68" <georgetaylor68@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hello all:
> Just a year away from Dawn's arrival :-)
>
> By the way, might the scene at minute 2:40 (onward) be approaching right where the glorious 1968 POTA concluded?
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0KNpXMKHaI
>
> I recall that a glass-based painting was used to enhance the final scene of that wonderful 1968 movie. At any rate, is it sad that a music video has apparently been made there? Or is it merely inconsequential? At any rate, it does make the backdrop seem less exotic and memorable when it's made so readily available in other outlets. Arthur P. Jacobs, etc., didn't have much reason to predict that Youtube would emerge someday though, let alone MTV :-)
>

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Hey Tim-

I sure would--can you put together a ZIP folder of some hi-res images so I can see the type of set-up you have?
JR
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On Tue, 7/2/13, Tim <apefan23@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [pota] Re: POTA Revisited
To: "pota@yahoogroups.com" <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 2, 2013, 12:38 AM
















 









Hey Joe..Very excited that your
book will be getting even bigger and better than it already
is! I'm wondering if you would like good photos of any
POTA merchandise? I have a room full of stuff and some of my
high-res pics of it were featured in the blu-ray featurette.
Not sure if you are covering that aspect of the series but
thought i would check!Looking forward to the new
book!Tim
On Jul 1, 2013, at 1:28 AM, The Soft Parade softparadeband@...>
wrote:




 






Message received. Personally, my focus in this
project are the five classic films. Ed is the guy handling
the newer sequels. We are preparing to include lots of new
material that should satisfy all factions of the APES fan
base. We appreciate your ongoing support and interest in the
PLANET OF THE APES REVISITED legacy. We are very proud that
the book has gotten so much highly praised recognition over
the many years and is still highly regarded. It was an honor
for me to be included in the blu-ray documentaries, and for
our book to be sighted as "undoubtedly the most
indispensible guide to the Apes saga" " by 20th
Century-Fox (PLANET OF THE APES 40-YEAR EVOLUTION book in
the blu-ray set). We plan to maintain the reputation we have
with the new edition.

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Thanks Terry & Jeff.

Cools Vids.  Here's a question.

I know there was a bird in Beneath.

Were there any in any of the shots

in Planet?  They seem unavoidable.

 

 

 

In a message dated 7/16/2013 5:44:48 A.M. Central Daylight Time, hoknes@... writes:

 

Terry Hoknes and Jeff Krueger of Ape Chronicles 

filmed new footage in Feb 2013 of the classic POTA location at Point Dume (statue of liberty)

i have posted all my unedited footage which shows many different angles of the area

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8n4NafQ3qY

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Here's some cool pics courtesy of Al's twitter page:

Booth Colman, Ron Harper, Austin Stoker, Don Murray and Lou Wagner Sunday at the POTA Q & A:

http://instagram.com/p/b00xOTpcUO/#

The abandoned amusement park near the "Dawn of the POTA" ape village set; pic by "Dawn" actor Kodi-Smit McPhee (almost makes me wish "Dawn" was in black and white):

http://instagram.com/p/b0BEgbn5gU/#

"Dawn of the POTA" is going to get a lot more familiar this Saturday at Comic-Con when director Matt Reeves and his cast do a panel. And to kick things off, here's an interview he did that just has me grooving. But first of all, he doesn't plan to show much footage. Just "limited little bits" and no ape stuff. The reason "Dawn" got pushed back to July is indeed because of the FX. It sounds like we are in for an epic show.
The basic thing is, those who loved "Rise" are in good hands, it seems. Reeves is a big POTA fan since childhood, but he LOVED "Rise" and to continue from that is what he's about. "I wanted to extend what I thought was achieved so brilliantly, the emotional connection with Caesar...It's definitely a bigger ape world, but it is still centered on Andy Serkis as Caesar, it's his POV... I wanted to make sure that the emotional life of Caesar was the way the story carried forward. You have to make Caesar's movie, you have to think about what matters to him the most".
It turns out that Reeves wants more of what was in "Rise", showing a slower evolution of the apes that the studio and Rupert Wyatt had planned. So it will be more in keeping with what we saw in the last film, the apes still developing. Reeves didn't think he'd have the leeway he did but the studio liked his ideas and let him go in a different direction. Almost as if they said to a fan, "Come on up and try it!". Reeves sez: "The apes story is a through-the-looking-glass way of looking at what we are. By what's going on in the internal lives of the apes we are exploring ourselves, our impulses, our society. So much is roiling inside Caesar. He has a rational side separate from the apes, they're all instinct. We are seeing how Caesar becomes this leader."
And hold onto your hats. He sez "this leads to the original film... That is where it's going".
It sounds like a very ambitious film with all it's sets and location shooting. It's going to push mo-cap into realism like never before (Reeves has a rep for delivering believability; that's why he was chosen for "Cloverfield", which is supposed to be really taking place on the other end of a camera). The CG in "Rise" didn't work as well when the apes were animated instead of mo-capped, and he's working to limit animation. And he picked D.P. Michael Seresin "because I wanted the lighting look to be very real. I want it to feel as if we're making an epic film, very grounded, we're lighting with real (location) light, so the effects that are so amazing in "Rise" and "Avatar" we're putting in this environment... this is the first movie at this level to do native 3D on an enormous canvas and mo-cap that is 95% shot on location".
He also gave away a couple of things. As I figured, actors Jason Clarke, Keri Russell and Kodi Smit-McPhee play a family. Caesar is also in a family way, having had a son (played by adult actor Nick Thurston, so he's grown) with Cornelia (Reeves recently had a son). And actor Toby Kebbell takes the role of Koba this time.
Anyway, I recommend reading this two page interview. I am totally on board. If the final film matches Reeves' ambitions, we're in for a treat!

http://blogs.indiewire.com/thompsononhollywood/comic-con-preview-matt-reeves-talks-apes

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Fox has released a prequel comic to their sequel "Dawn of the POTA" (currently opening a year from today).

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=106642

Planet of the Apes in 35mm, in the theatre where Lee Harvey Oswald was arrested. Rod Serling could have made a great Twilight Zone episode out of this.

http://thetexastheatre.com/movies-events/planet-of-the-apes-35mm-print

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Info is slowly starting to come out about the DAWN even though the film is still a year away. I assume that over the next 12 months more details about the film will be leaked out. While all fans are excited about DAWN, many don't want to know every bit of information about the film before they see it. Thus, while news about DAWN is always welcome, please show some discretion. Posting a link to an article is fine. Then every member can decide if they wish to click on the link and read it. But long summeries and discussions of such articles should say upfront that there are spoilers included and add in spoiler space such as:

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SPOILER ALERT!!! IT'S GOING TO BE F*%KING AMAZING!!! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "jamesa1102" <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
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> Info is slowly starting to come out about the DAWN even though the film
> is still a year away. I assume that over the next 12 months more details
> about the film will be leaked out. While all fans are excited about
> DAWN, many don't want to know every bit of information about the film
> before they see it. Thus, while news about DAWN is always welcome,
> please show some discretion. Posting a link to an article is fine. Then
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The comic looks magnificent---very 'noir'.Wonder why we got a prequel comic story for RISE, but no movie adaptation? Hope we get comics and novels this time around! Also, this doesn't look like a BOOM! thing, so what's the deal there.Finally, if anyone gets a free spare copy, don't forget how nice your Uncle John is!!!! Uncle John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> Fox has released a prequel comic to their sequel "Dawn of the POTA" (currently opening a year from today).
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> http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=106642
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Caesar's window is back! Art by Gary Brown. If there's cover art I guess that means this isn't internet only.

https://twitter.com/GarryBoom/status/358319800788869120/photo/1

It feels like this movie is around the corner, not a year away. Stop torturing me, Fox.

Those wiseacres at Fox (presumably) are looking to use the internet again for clever promos, like they did with "Rise". Unless this is for real! : o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-qU2ILpfR8

I see that there's a prequel episode (without Charlton Heston) called "A Stitch In Time":

http://www.hulu.com/watch/128885

I enjoyed it :-)

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, George Taylor <georgetaylor68@...> wrote:
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> Chief Justice Charlton Heston in a science fiction, post-apocalyptic (2076) setting? For the FREE Outer Limits episodes (pts. 1 & 2) featuring Mr. Heston during his sunset years, feel free to visit:
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> http://www.hulu.com/watch/66500#details=expand
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> Have a good rest of the weekend, from Houston, TX :-)
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I'm loving this publicity campaign.The Simian Flu thing is brilliant and the comic is enticing.The look of the web page is so 'Conquest/Battle that I could weep! I WANT MORE!!!! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> Caesar's window is back! Art by Gary Brown. If there's cover art I guess that means this isn't internet only.
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> https://twitter.com/GarryBoom/status/358319800788869120/photo/1
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> It feels like this movie is around the corner, not a year away. Stop torturing me, Fox.
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Is it true future Lessons will be in 3-D? John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, Bill Hollweg <billhollweg@...> wrote:
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> Thank you all for keeping the LG scribing!
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Oooooooo....there's a lovely BATTLE vibe about all that!!! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> "Dawn" director Matt Reeves tweeted some shots from the ape village set before he heads to Comic-Con. Looks like someone was smoking in bed. Not a good idea when everything is made of sticks. Stupid monkeys!
> https://twitter.com/mattreevesLA/status/358421034371805184/photo/1
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> Here's one with him and D.P. Michael Seresin.
> https://twitter.com/mattreevesLA/status/358422207564763137/photo/1
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> Sure feels like there's a lot of night shooting on this flick. Seems like a director who enjoys his work. Good luck at Comic-Con, Matt.
> https://twitter.com/mattreevesLA/status/358445900567306240/photo/1
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Yes but only if you keep eating those mushrooms that you love so much!

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "johnroche49" wrote:
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> Is it true future Lessons will be in 3-D? John, Scrolls.
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Well, that would be a LOT easier than wearing those damn glasses!LESSONS is still a weekly highlight--much appreciated. John, Scrolls.

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Cool--that looks like Rocket on the right.Apparently, we will have talking Apes and the tri-partite Ape species division too.I'm loving what I see of DAWN. John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "dave" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
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> Dave B
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Here's the "Dawn of the POTA" panel at Comic-Con. Thanx to Al for the head's up.

http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/dawn-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-comic-con.php?utm_source=dlvr.it&u

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I find Reeves to be bang on message.If the aim is to get to the 1968 POTA, I'm in Ape Heaven.Everything I see and hear about DAWN is electric--I can't wait to see it.Speaking of which.....there's no damn 'teaser' on this clip!!!! John, Scrolls.

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
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> Here's the "Dawn of the POTA" panel at Comic-Con. Thanx to Al for the head's up.
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> http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/dawn-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-comic-con.php?utm_source=dlvr.it&u
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Neca Toys announced on twitter today that they have the "Apes" license for both the classic and new versions and are "planning to do a lot with it". They did quite a bit with POTA2001 (cookie jars, statues, etc.) but it'll be cool to see what they come up with a decade later. They do a good job in the reasonable price range.

http://collider.com/neca-batman-robocop-iron-man-images/

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"Dawn of the POTA" finished principal photography today, July 24. Though there's still odds and ends to do (some stuff in real San Francisco at the end of the month) and probably reshoots ("Rise" reshot it's ending a month before it's release), it's now post-production time. Congrats!

https://twitter.com/Greg_Kiley/status/360170524837572608/photo/1

https://twitter.com/Greg_Kiley/status/360172091074551810/photo/1

The "Dawn" team meet the press before heading to the Comic-Con stage. Thanx again to Al for the heads up.

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>>We are assembling a revised and expanded edition of the 2001 book

PLANET OF THE
APES REVISITED.It will feature new material as well as the "classic" text on the
original five 20th-Century Fox films.If anyone has any rare photographs or
information they care to contribute to the project, we would appreciate your
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That was actually done with J.Lee Thompson and Don Taylor as well! From what I recall though, there wasn't the plethora of fascinating information I thought there would be.I will "revisit" the tapes and see if they're worth transcribing. JR
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Subject: [pota] Re: PLANET OF THE APES REVISITED seeks your contribution
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
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I recall you mentioning that you have an audio
recording of Ted Post
discussing Beneath while you were watching it with him. Why
not transcribe that
and include it in the book since it's being
"expanded and revised". Since he's
the only Apes director still with us, I can't think of a
person who wouldn't
love to read that. Has to be some very insightful stuff,
undoubtedly.

What does everyone else think? Is this the kind of
stuff you'd want to see
in a new version of the book?


Chris L.



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>>We are assembling a revised and expanded
edition of the 2001 book
PLANET OF THE
APES REVISITED.It will feature new material as well as the
"classic" text on the
original five 20th-Century Fox films.If anyone has any
rare photographs or
information they care to contribute to the project, we
would appreciate your
input. Please e-mail epshots@... if you have something
you think should be
included -thank you! J Russo

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