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Group: pota Message: 73754 From: haristas Date: 10/20/2014
Subject: Re: What role should Koba have in the next Apes movie(s)?
Group: pota Message: 73755 From: Jeff K. Date: 10/20/2014
Subject: Re: What role should Koba have in the next Apes movie(s)?
Group: pota Message: 73756 From: johnmermigas Date: 10/20/2014
Subject: Koba and cloths
Group: pota Message: 73757 From: mlccougar Date: 10/21/2014
Subject: Re: Koba and cloths
Group: pota Message: 73758 From: Jeff K. Date: 10/21/2014
Subject: Re: Koba and cloths
Group: pota Message: 73759 From: haristas Date: 10/21/2014
Subject: Re: Koba and cloths
Group: pota Message: 73760 From: mlccougar Date: 10/22/2014
Subject: Re: Koba and cloths
Group: pota Message: 73761 From: Jeff K. Date: 10/22/2014
Subject: "Dawn" receives the PONGO Award
Group: pota Message: 73762 From: Jeff K. Date: 10/22/2014
Subject: OT: Rupert Wyatt gambles on Wahlberg
Group: pota Message: 73763 From: Jeff K. Date: 10/23/2014
Subject: DAWN at $707 million?
Group: pota Message: 73764 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 10/23/2014
Subject: Re: DAWN at $707 million?
Group: pota Message: 73765 From: LordTZer0 Date: 10/24/2014
Subject: Re: Rise vs. Dawn
Group: pota Message: 73766 From: LordTZer0 Date: 10/24/2014
Subject: Re: Rise vs. Dawn
Group: pota Message: 73767 From: LordTZer0 Date: 10/24/2014
Subject: Re: What role should Koba have in the next Apes movie(s)?
Group: pota Message: 73768 From: Jeff K. Date: 10/24/2014
Subject: Re: DAWN at $707 million?
Group: pota Message: 73769 From: haristas Date: 10/24/2014
Subject: Re: DAWN at $707 million?
Group: pota Message: 73770 From: Jeff K. Date: 10/24/2014
Subject: Re: Rise vs. Dawn
Group: pota Message: 73771 From: jamesa1102 Date: 10/24/2014
Subject: Hasslein Institute of Temporal Physics
Group: pota Message: 73772 From: James Date: 10/26/2014
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 73773 From: LordTZer0 Date: 10/27/2014
Subject: Re: Rise vs. Dawn
Group: pota Message: 73774 From: LordTZer0 Date: 10/27/2014
Subject: Re: DAWN at $707 million?
Group: pota Message: 73775 From: Jeff K. Date: 10/27/2014
Subject: Rick Baker takes stock
Group: pota Message: 73776 From: James Date: 10/28/2014
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 73777 From: William Burge Date: 10/28/2014
Subject: rare maurice evans telegram
Group: pota Message: 73778 From: Dario Date: 10/28/2014
Subject: Re: rare maurice evans telegram [1 Attachment]
Group: pota Message: 73779 From: haristas Date: 10/29/2014
Subject: Re: rare maurice evans telegram
Group: pota Message: 73780 From: William Burge Date: 10/30/2014
Subject: rare planet drive in theatre poster
Group: pota Message: 73781 From: jamesa1102 Date: 10/31/2014
Subject: Hasslein Institute of Temporal Physics
Group: pota Message: 73782 From: Jeff K. Date: 10/31/2014
Subject: Pumpkin of the Apes
Group: pota Message: 73783 From: James Date: 11/1/2014
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 73784 From: mlccougar Date: 11/2/2014
Subject: NECA's Gorilla Soldier two pack (final images)
Group: pota Message: 73785 From: haristas Date: 11/2/2014
Subject: Re: NECA's Gorilla Soldier two pack (final images)
Group: pota Message: 73786 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/2/2014
Subject: Fox rewrites the box office record book in 2014
Group: pota Message: 73787 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/2/2014
Subject: "Dawn" blu ray extras preview
Group: pota Message: 73788 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 11/2/2014
Subject: Re: "Dawn" blu ray extras preview
Group: pota Message: 73789 From: mlccougar Date: 11/3/2014
Subject: Re: NECA's Gorilla Soldier two pack (final images)
Group: pota Message: 73790 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/3/2014
Subject: Re: NECA's Gorilla Soldier two pack (final images)
Group: pota Message: 73791 From: haristas Date: 11/3/2014
Subject: Re: NECA's Gorilla Soldier two pack (final images)
Group: pota Message: 73792 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 11/3/2014
Subject: 200+ more high-quality stills from MTB on Hunter's site
Group: pota Message: 73793 From: mlccougar Date: 11/3/2014
Subject: Re: NECA's Gorilla Soldier two pack (final images)
Group: pota Message: 73794 From: mlccougar Date: 11/3/2014
Subject: Re: NECA's Gorilla Soldier two pack (final images)
Group: pota Message: 73795 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/3/2014
Subject: new POTA mucky muck
Group: pota Message: 73796 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 11/4/2014
Subject: Paul Dehn was born on this day in 1912, Wednesday, 05 November 2014
Group: pota Message: 73797 From: leroymcconnell Date: 11/5/2014
Subject: BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES - VICTOR BUONO - MUTANT MASK - FAT MA
Group: pota Message: 73798 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/6/2014
Subject: Jason Clarke signed for further "Apes"
Group: pota Message: 73799 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/6/2014
Subject: Fox's dawn, dirty Oscar plans
Group: pota Message: 73800 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/6/2014
Subject: good pics of NECA Classic Apes Series 2
Group: pota Message: 73801 From: jamesa1102 Date: 11/7/2014
Subject: Hasslein Institute of Temporal Physics
Group: pota Message: 73802 From: haristas Date: 11/7/2014
Subject: Re: good pics of NECA Classic Apes Series 2
Group: pota Message: 73803 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 11/7/2014
Subject: JEFF KRUEGER'S BIRTHDAY, Saturday, 08 November 2014
Group: pota Message: 73804 From: jamesa1102 Date: 11/8/2014
Subject: Re: JEFF KRUEGER'S BIRTHDAY, Saturday, 08 November 2014
Group: pota Message: 73805 From: James Date: 11/8/2014
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 73806 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 11/8/2014
Subject: Severn Darden was born on this day in 1929, Sunday, 09 November 2014
Group: pota Message: 73807 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/9/2014
Subject: Jeff's freebie (and the bean)
Group: pota Message: 73808 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 11/9/2014
Subject: Tod Andrews was born on this day in 1914, Monday, 10 November 2014
Group: pota Message: 73809 From: George Taylor Date: 11/10/2014
Subject: Interstellar: foreshadowing elements of an upcoming POTA sequel?
Group: pota Message: 73810 From: haristas Date: 11/10/2014
Subject: Re: Interstellar: foreshadowing elements of an upcoming POTA sequel
Group: pota Message: 73811 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/10/2014
Subject: Re: Interstellar: foreshadowing elements of an upcoming POTA sequel
Group: pota Message: 73812 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/10/2014
Subject: Re: foreshadowing elements of an upcoming POTA sequel?
Group: pota Message: 73813 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/10/2014
Subject: "Dawn" director talks "Apes 3"
Group: pota Message: 73814 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/11/2014
Subject: Serkis, Kebbell chime in on "Apes 3"
Group: pota Message: 73815 From: mlccougar Date: 11/11/2014
Subject: Re: "Dawn" director talks "Apes 3"
Group: pota Message: 73816 From: James Date: 11/11/2014
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 73817 From: haristas Date: 11/11/2014
Subject: Re: "Dawn" director talks "Apes 3"
Group: pota Message: 73818 From: haristas Date: 11/11/2014
Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 73819 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/11/2014
Subject: "Dawn" available for download
Group: pota Message: 73820 From: haristas Date: 11/11/2014
Subject: Vudu Dawn
Group: pota Message: 73821 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/11/2014
Subject: more from the "Apes 3" director
Group: pota Message: 73822 From: Dario Date: 11/11/2014
Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 73823 From: Dario Sciola Date: 11/11/2014
Subject: Dawn novelization
Group: pota Message: 73824 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/11/2014
Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 73825 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/11/2014
Subject: R.I.P. David Watson?
Group: pota Message: 73826 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/11/2014
Subject: "Rise" director talks "Dawn"
Group: pota Message: 73827 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 11/11/2014
Subject: Kim Hunter was born on this day in 1922, Wednesday, 12 November 2014
Group: pota Message: 73828 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 11/12/2014
Subject: Re: more from the "Apes 3" director
Group: pota Message: 73829 From: mlccougar Date: 11/12/2014
Subject: Re: more from the "Apes 3" director
Group: pota Message: 73830 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 11/12/2014
Subject: Re: R.I.P. David Watson?
Group: pota Message: 73831 From: mlccougar Date: 11/12/2014
Subject: Re: R.I.P. David Watson?
Group: pota Message: 73832 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 11/12/2014
Subject: Re: R.I.P. David Watson?
Group: pota Message: 73833 From: haristas Date: 11/12/2014
Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 73834 From: haristas Date: 11/12/2014
Subject: Re: R.I.P. David Watson?
Group: pota Message: 73835 From: haristas Date: 11/12/2014
Subject: Re: R.I.P. David Watson?
Group: pota Message: 73836 From: mlccougar Date: 11/12/2014
Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 73837 From: mikem3978 Date: 11/12/2014
Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 73838 From: haristas Date: 11/12/2014
Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 73839 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/12/2014
Subject: Ellie's secret journal - what's in it?!
Group: pota Message: 73840 From: Zachary Scott Date: 11/12/2014
Subject: Re: R.I.P. David Watson?
Group: pota Message: 73841 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 11/12/2014
Subject: Re: R.I.P. David Watson?
Group: pota Message: 73842 From: Dario Date: 11/12/2014
Subject: Re: R.I.P. David Watson?
Group: pota Message: 73843 From: James Date: 11/13/2014
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 73844 From: mlccougar Date: 11/13/2014
Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
Group: pota Message: 73845 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/13/2014
Subject: David Watson 1940 - 2014
Group: pota Message: 73846 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/13/2014
Subject: Re: Our Lawgiver
Group: pota Message: 73847 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/13/2014
Subject: The World of DAWN
Group: pota Message: 73848 From: Dario Sciola Date: 11/13/2014
Subject: Re: Our Lawgiver
Group: pota Message: 73849 From: mlccougar Date: 11/13/2014
Subject: Re: Our Lawgiver
Group: pota Message: 73850 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/13/2014
Subject: Re: Our Lawgiver
Group: pota Message: 73851 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/13/2014
Subject: DAWN: the skyscraper scene
Group: pota Message: 73852 From: Tim Date: 11/13/2014
Subject: Re: Our Lawgiver
Group: pota Message: 73853 From: totellthetruth42 Date: 11/13/2014
Subject: Re: R.I.P. David Watson?



Group: pota Message: 73754 From: haristas Date: 10/20/2014
Subject: Re: What role should Koba have in the next Apes movie(s)?
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And it's about time a major character emerged that's a gorilla.  Enough with crazy, murdering bonobos.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Oct 20, 2014 12:14 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: What role should Koba have in the next Apes movie(s)?

 
  I agree, where else could they go with Koba? And for him to survive is really pushing it. This isn't "Batman".

Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 5:03 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: What role should Koba have in the next Apes movie(s)?

 
Koba is a psycho killer and we've already had his episode.  We don't need to see it replayed, it'll only amount to what we've already seen.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: George Taylor georgetaylor68@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: Pota <Pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Oct 20, 2014 6:06 am
Subject: [pota] What role should Koba have in the next Apes movie(s)?

 


Is it a mistake to bring back Koba for the next movie installment?

Here are some pros & cons that I can think of, to which you're perfectly welcome to add or subtract:

PROS:

*Koba serves as a great example for parents to use when advocating that their kids treat animals better, because animals have feelings too.

*Koba also serves as a great example for animal rights activists who seek to personify their messages on behalf of voiceless yet living objects of their appreciation.

*Meanwhile, anyone who has to cope with sympathetic dissenters in their organization (be it familial, entrepreneurial, governmental, civic or otherwise) can learn some lessons from how Koba increasingly rebelled and was brutally attacked by Caesar during a time of verbal confrontation. Can you imagine how much better things might have been if Caesar had put the "support the humans' endeavor to restore power" issue to a vote within the Apes community? Even the youngest sentient simians could have had a say, sort of like Scots ages 16-18 recently got to vote on Scottish secession:

http://www.seceder.com/Scotland

Instead, Caesar used brute force to humiliate and hurt Koba in front of others, before Koba ultimately shot Caesar. I've had folks tell me that Koba merely cared about himself, but I think he cared about apes' survival while realizing that without a team, apes are neither together nor strong. Sure he killed Ash most brutally, but the U.S.A. regularly executes those who are perceived as social cancers. He didn't execute Maurice and others from Caesar's inner circle though. He even reached out to Caesar's son, right?

*Koba generates instant enthusiasm among anyone who is having the Apes reboot described to them as part of an effort to get them to care enough to actually view the reboot's installments. There have been plenty of series out there about nonhumans interacting. How many have anyone even remotely interesting & sympathetic like Koba though? He helps our beloved reboot be unique, and relevant to modern societal issues too. Only when medical experimentation on animals ceases, and we've become vegetarian or we otherwise eat meat that doesn't come directly from killed animals:

http://www.new-harvest.org

can we finally say that Koba's not as relevant as he currently still is. |

O.K., now on to some cons:

CONS:

*Koba's presumably dead. But so is Sigourney Weaver's character Grace in the blockbuster movie Avatar. She's nevertheless reportedly coming back for the Avatar sequel, due out in December of 2016. Meanwhile her revival in the Alien movies didn't stop folks from buying tickets including for the eventual prequel Prometheus (which admittedly didn't include her but still rode on the Alien movies' coattails). Incidentally does anyone doubt that we'll be seeing more of the supposedly deceased Anakin Skywalker in the J.J. Abrams installments of Star Wars?

Next:

*The interaction between Koba and Caesar is becoming a "been there; done that" struggle. But one can say the same about the wildly successful Star Wars installments. Nothing says that the entire War on the Planet of the Apes movie has to focus on Koba, either. But Caesar could soon realize that it's best to keep one's friends close and one's enemies closer. Imagine if Koba goes into exile, starts his own society and antagonizes the humans' military forces to the point of wanting to do as Gary Oldman's character did by exterminating every last one of the simians (including Caesar's more peaceful tribe). Koba could help spell out how important it is not to overly generalize, just as we shouldn't assume that all folks from the Middle East are aspiring terrorists. Perhaps it's no surprise that Dawn, made by Americans with a message for Americans, has brought in over 70% of its box office revenues OUTSIDE of the U.S.A.? The Chi nese seem especially
intrigued with how we're experiencing internal dissent regarding foreign invasions. China claims never to have invaded a foreign land, by the way (although some could say China became as large as it did by doing so centuries ago, especially regarding Tibet).

Thank you for having considered my thoughts. I for one am very pleased (and relieved) that Koba will reportedly return. I don't want War on the Planet of the Apes to fall victim to the statistic that sequels typically earn just 66% of the originals. The perpetrator of this briliant scene is good for at least a few hundred million in ticket sales:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itnj-k0TRB0

Does anyone here not know of anyone analogous to Koba? The interaction involving such characters is part of the human condition that the POTA movies are so good at exploring in detached yet engaging ways (without being overly political).

What role do you think Koba should have in the next Apes movie(s)?

Cheers from Houston (where Astronaut George Taylor presumably trained)...

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Group: pota Message: 73755 From: Jeff K. Date: 10/20/2014
Subject: Re: What role should Koba have in the next Apes movie(s)?
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  I'll tell you one thing that every good Ape fans knows: the only thing that counts in the end is apes with clothes! NAKED, merciless force doesn't work (ask Koba).

Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 10:16 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: What role should Koba have in the next Apes movie(s)?

 

And it's about time a major character emerged that's a gorilla.  Enough with crazy, murdering bonobos.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Oct 20, 2014 12:14 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: What role should Koba have in the next Apes movie(s)?

 
  I agree, where else could they go with Koba? And for him to survive is really pushing it. This isn't "Batman".

Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 5:03 AM
Subject: [pota] Re: What role should Koba have in the next Apes movie(s)?

 
Koba is a psycho killer and we've already had his episode.  We don't need to see it replayed, it'll only amount to what we've already seen.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: George Taylor georgetaylor68@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: Pota <Pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Mon, Oct 20, 2014 6:06 am
Subject: [pota] What role should Koba have in the next Apes movie(s)?

 


Is it a mistake to bring back Koba for the next movie installment?

Here are some pros & cons that I can think of, to which you're perfectly welcome to add or subtract:

PROS:

*Koba serves as a great example for parents to use when advocating that their kids treat animals better, because animals have feelings too.

*Koba also serves as a great example for animal rights activists who seek to personify their messages on behalf of voiceless yet living objects of their appreciation.

*Meanwhile, anyone who has to cope with sympathetic dissenters in their organization (be it familial, entrepreneurial, governmental, civic or otherwise) can learn some lessons from how Koba increasingly rebelled and was brutally attacked by Caesar during a time of verbal confrontation. Can you imagine how much better things might have been if Caesar had put the "support the humans' endeavor to restore power" issue to a vote within the Apes community? Even the youngest sentient simians could have had a say, sort of like Scots ages 16-18 recently got to vote on Scottish secession:

http://www.seceder.com/Scotland

Instead, Caesar used brute force to humiliate and hurt Koba in front of others, before Koba ultimately shot Caesar. I've had folks tell me that Koba merely cared about himself, but I think he cared about apes' survival while realizing that without a team, apes are neither together nor strong. Sure he killed Ash most brutally, but the U.S.A. regularly executes those who are perceived as social cancers. He didn't execute Maurice and others from Caesar's inner circle though. He even reached out to Caesar's son, right?

*Koba generates instant enthusiasm among anyone who is having the Apes reboot described to them as part of an effort to get them to care enough to actually view the reboot's installments. There have been plenty of series out there about nonhumans interacting. How many have anyone even remotely interesting & sympathetic like Koba though? He helps our beloved reboot be unique, and relevant to modern societal issues too. Only when medical experimentation on animals ceases, and we've become vegetarian or we otherwise eat meat that doesn't come directly from killed animals:

http://www.new-harvest.org

can we finally say that Koba's not as relevant as he currently still is. |

O.K., now on to some cons:

CONS:

*Koba's presumably dead. But so is Sigourney Weaver's character Grace in the blockbuster movie Avatar. She's nevertheless reportedly coming back for the Avatar sequel, due out in December of 2016. Meanwhile her revival in the Alien movies didn't stop folks from buying tickets including for the eventual prequel Prometheus (which admittedly didn't include her but still rode on the Alien movies' coattails). Incidentally does anyone doubt that we'll be seeing more of the supposedly deceased Anakin Skywalker in the J.J. Abrams installments of Star Wars?

Next:

*The interaction between Koba and Caesar is becoming a "been there; done that" struggle. But one can say the same about the wildly successful Star Wars installments. Nothing says that the entire War on the Planet of the Apes movie has to focus on Koba, either. But Caesar could soon realize that it's best to keep one's friends close and one's enemies closer. Imagine if Koba goes into exile, starts his own society and antagonizes the humans' military forces to the point of wanting to do as Gary Oldman's character did by exterminating every last one of the simians (including Caesar's more peaceful tribe). Koba could help spell out how important it is not to overly generalize, just as we shouldn't assume that all folks from the Middle East are aspiring terrorists. Perhaps it's no surprise that Dawn, made by Americans with a message for Americans, has brought in over 70% of its box office revenues OUTSIDE of the U.S.A.? The Chi nese seem especially
intrigued with how we're experiencing internal dissent regarding foreign invasions. China claims never to have invaded a foreign land, by the way (although some could say China became as large as it did by doing so centuries ago, especially regarding Tibet).

Thank you for having considered my thoughts. I for one am very pleased (and relieved) that Koba will reportedly return. I don't want War on the Planet of the Apes to fall victim to the statistic that sequels typically earn just 66% of the originals. The perpetrator of this briliant scene is good for at least a few hundred million in ticket sales:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Itnj-k0TRB0

Does anyone here not know of anyone analogous to Koba? The interaction involving such characters is part of the human condition that the POTA movies are so good at exploring in detached yet engaging ways (without being overly political).

What role do you think Koba should have in the next Apes movie(s)?

Cheers from Houston (where Astronaut George Taylor presumably trained)...

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Group: pota Message: 73756 From: johnmermigas Date: 10/20/2014
Subject: Koba and cloths
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Put some cloths on the Apes, No Koba and lets get into the future. Fox thinks it can go on forever and they may start to bore newer apes fans

  Perhaps a Godfather 2 type of feature with future and past.

If Fox thinks they can keep it going to 5-7 films well I hop so. John M.

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Group: pota Message: 73757 From: mlccougar Date: 10/21/2014
Subject: Re: Koba and cloths
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.html.htmlI'm with you on your points of clothing the apes, dropping Koba, and going further into the future... But, this next one will still be a "Caesar" story so they can wrap up the "trilogy"...

After that, who knows: If they do another 5-7 films after the one set for release in 2016 and they do them at 2 to 3 year intervals, that's bring us to roughly the 2030s (and it could easily be later than that)... Most people here will be in their 60s and 70s, and would be outside of the marketing people's ideal demographics... That many years from now, even the young people being drawn to the new films will be outside of their "youth market", so who knows what kind of films they could/would be making then and at that point, will anyone here care?




In a message dated 10/20/2014 11:53:49 PM Central Daylight Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:

Put some cloths on the Apes, No Koba and lets get into the future. Fox thinks it can go on forever and they may start to bore newer apes fans

  Perhaps a Godfather 2 type of feature with future and past.

If Fox thinks they can keep it going to 5-7 films well I hop so.



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Group: pota Message: 73758 From: Jeff K. Date: 10/21/2014
Subject: Re: Koba and cloths
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  Fox has been making "X-Men" movies for almost 15 years consistently with no end in sight. Non-superhero (but close) is James Bond. If movies are popular enough new fans come in. Science-fiction is the future of storytelling and I think it will always be popular.
  The POTA producer (Dylan Clark) threw out the number 8 as a rough idea of the amount of movies they might do. Finish the Caesar trilogy, go into the future and another trilogy with the apes large and in charge and I'll be satisfied. Or even 5 like the original series. I never thought we'd get this far. Before "Rise" I thought POTA was dead for our lifetimes.
 

Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:14 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Koba and cloths

 

I'm with you on your points of clothing the apes, dropping Koba, and going further into the future... But, this next one will still be a "Caesar" story so they can wrap up the "trilogy"...

After that, who knows: If they do another 5-7 films after the one set for release in 2016 and they do them at 2 to 3 year intervals, that's bring us to roughly the 2030s (and it could easily be later than that)... Most people here will be in their 60s and 70s, and would be outside of the marketing people's ideal demographics... That many years from now, even the young people being drawn to the new films will be outside of their "youth market", so who knows what kind of films they could/would be making then and at that point, will anyone here care?




In a message dated 10/20/2014 11:53:49 PM Central Daylight Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:

Put some cloths on the Apes, No Koba and lets get into the future. Fox thinks it can go on forever and they may start to bore newer apes fans

  Perhaps a Godfather 2 type of feature with future and past.

If Fox thinks they can keep it going to 5-7 films well I hop so.



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Group: pota Message: 73759 From: haristas Date: 10/21/2014
Subject: Re: Koba and cloths
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I have the feeling that even if I live another thirty years, on my deathbed I'll read news of another APES movie in the works.
 
Someday, we'll all be gone, but some kid in the future will discover these old movies we once knew.
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Oct 21, 2014 11:14 am
Subject: Re: [pota] Koba and cloths

 
  Fox has been making "X-Men" movies for almost 15 years consistently with no end in sight. Non-superhero (but close) is James Bond. If movies are popular enough new fans come in. Science-fiction is the future of storytelling and I think it will always be popular.
  The POTA producer (Dylan Clark) threw out the number 8 as a rough idea of the amount of movies they might do. Finish the Caesar trilogy, go into the future and another trilogy with the apes large and in charge and I'll be satisfied. Or even 5 like the original series. I never thought we'd get this far. Before "Rise" I thought POTA was dead for our lifetimes.
 

Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:14 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Koba and cloths

 
I'm with you on your points of clothing the apes, dropping Koba, and going further into the future... But, this next one will still be a "Caesar" story so they can wrap up the "trilogy"...

After that, who knows: If they do another 5-7 films after the one set for release in 2016 and they do them at 2 to 3 year intervals, that's bring us to roughly the 2030s (and it could easily be later than that)... Most people here will be in their 60s and 70s, and would be outside of the marketing people's ideal demographics... That many years from now, even the young people being drawn to the new films will be outside of their "youth market", so who knows what kind of films they could/would be making then and at that point, will anyone here care?




In a message dated 10/20/2014 11:53:49 PM Central Daylight Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:

Put some cloths on the Apes, No Koba and lets get into the future. Fox thinks it can go on forever and they may start to bore newer apes fans

  Perhaps a Godfather 2 type of feature with future and past.

If Fox thinks they can keep it going to 5-7 films well I hop so.



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In a message dated 10/21/2014 11:59:32 AM Central Daylight Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:

I have the feeling that even if I live another thirty years, on my deathbed I'll read news of another APES movie in the works.


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Group: pota Message: 73761 From: Jeff K. Date: 10/22/2014
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  In what I guess is Dawn's first award, the OURF (Orang Utan Republik Foundation) has awarded "Dawn of the POTA" it's PONGO award. The award is dedicated to works that show other species' right to exist. OURF works to protect threatened species in Indonesia, particularly the orangutans. While "Dawn" getting an award from an orangutan protection group might seem like an easy win, it's still an ape-propriate honor. Another honoree is the James Cameron produced global warming doc series "Years of Living Dangerously" which I saw and was very good and eye opening. While not exactly an Oscar, this is important stuff, so congrats "Dawn".
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Group: pota Message: 73762 From: Jeff K. Date: 10/22/2014
Subject: OT: Rupert Wyatt gambles on Wahlberg
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  What up with Rupert Wyatt, who was launched to directorial stardom with "Rise of the POTA"? He's baaaack, with his first feature since his ape-stravaganza. And he's bringing along Mark (POTA2001) Wahlberg and John Goodman (the former John Chambers in "Argo"). Paramount is positioning this for the Oscars. Could it be the Battle of the Ape directors this year (Wyatt vs. Matt Reeves, with maybe Tim Burton for "Big Eyes")? No, but who knows about the future?
  "The Gambler" gets a limited release Dec. 12th and opens wide in January. And no Kenny Rogers in sight.
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Group: pota Message: 73763 From: Jeff K. Date: 10/23/2014
Subject: DAWN at $707 million?
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  I just noticed that "Dawn of the POTA" is suddenly at $707 million ww. Is that a mistake? It can't be true. But if it is, "Dawn" is about to kick Spidey's red ass (blue ass?) again.
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Group: pota Message: 73764 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 10/23/2014
Subject: Re: DAWN at $707 million?
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I think the sudden jumps in total is due to the lack of box office information being gathered. So their just receiving it in lump sums at a time. I wouldn't doubt if Dawn ends up at 710-715 when its all said and done.

Al





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I just noticed that "Dawn of the POTA" is
suddenly at $707 million ww. Is that a mistake? It can't be true. But if it is,
"Dawn" is about to kick Spidey's red ass (blue ass?) again.















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Group: pota Message: 73765 From: LordTZer0 Date: 10/24/2014
Subject: Re: Rise vs. Dawn
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I don't pay attention to humans in Apes movies.
Honestly, can't name a single character.
 
 
In a message dated 10/8/2014 10:03:21 A.M. Central Daylight Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:
  Ellie was the human, not Caesar's wife. I guess the comparison would be Stevie ("Escape")?
  Who's the most badass human female in POTAdom? Nova? Maybe Estella Warren in POTA2001, since she actually fought.
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Really. I don't even know Gary Oldman's characters's name.
 
 
In a message dated 10/8/2014 11:14:27 A.M. Central Daylight Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:
  Doctor's role is pretty nonexistent. I think Stevie and Ellie's roles are more comparable. And Stevie was a doctor too.
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That and a bit of evolution.
No quite yo to Cavemen,
but evolved apes with culture.
 
 
In a message dated 10/20/2014 1:49:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:
I'll tell you one thing that every good Ape fans knows: the only thing that counts in the end is apes with clothes!
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Group: pota Message: 73768 From: Jeff K. Date: 10/24/2014
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  If it passes $709 million it takes down Spiderman. If goes past $714 million it sez buh-bye to Cap. 2 and lands at #5 for the year. Come on China, Dawn needs a new pair of shoes!
 

Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 2:57 PM
Subject: RE: [pota] DAWN at $707 million?

 

I think the sudden jumps in total is due to the lack of box office information being gathered. So their just receiving it in lump sums at a time. I wouldn't doubt if Dawn ends up at 710-715 when its all said and done.

Al





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I just noticed that "Dawn of the POTA" is
suddenly at $707 million ww. Is that a mistake? It can't be true. But if it is,
"Dawn" is about to kick Spidey's red ass (blue ass?) again.















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Group: pota Message: 73769 From: haristas Date: 10/24/2014
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I think it has yet to open in Tibet and outer Mongolia, but there being no movie theatres there, it might not do so well.  If it doesn't top Spiderman blame the Japanese.  What's up with them these days?  They didn't even care for GODZILLA.
 
 
 
 
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From: 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Oct 24, 2014 1:58 am
Subject: Re: [pota] DAWN at $707 million?

 
  If it passes $709 million it takes down Spiderman. If goes past $714 million it sez buh-bye to Cap. 2 and lands at #5 for the year. Come on China, Dawn needs a new pair of shoes!
 

Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 2:57 PM
Subject: RE: [pota] DAWN at $707 million?

 
I think the sudden jumps in total is due to the lack of box office information being gathered. So their just receiving it in lump sums at a time. I wouldn't doubt if Dawn ends up at 710-715 when its all said and done.

Al





At Oct 23, 2014, 4:20:56 PM, 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota]pota@yahoogroups.com'> wrote:
























I just noticed that "Dawn of the POTA" is
suddenly at $707 million ww. Is that a mistake? It can't be true. But if it is,
"Dawn" is about to kick Spidey's red ass (blue ass?) again.















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Group: pota Message: 73770 From: Jeff K. Date: 10/24/2014
Subject: Re: Rise vs. Dawn
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  Well, let's see. Charlton Heston played Taylor. T-A-Y-L-O-R.

Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Rise vs. Dawn

 

 
I don't pay attention to humans in Apes movies.
Honestly, can't name a single character.
 
 
In a message dated 10/8/2014 10:03:21 A.M. Central Daylight Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:
  Ellie was the human, not Caesar's wife. I guess the comparison would be Stevie ("Escape")?
  Who's the most badass human female in POTAdom? Nova? Maybe Estella Warren in POTA2001, since she actually fought.

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Subject: Hasslein Institute of Temporal Physics
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We made to another friday so let's celebrate with a new installment of the HASSLEIN INSTITUTE OF TEMPORAL PHYSICS. Thanks to everyone who contributed.

 

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Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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Films of the summer: No.3: Dawn of the Planet of the Apes

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Group: pota Message: 73773 From: LordTZer0 Date: 10/27/2014
Subject: Re: Rise vs. Dawn
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I mean in the new ones.
 
 
In a message dated 10/24/2014 5:23:54 A.M. Central Daylight Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:
Well, let's see. Charlton Heston played Taylor. T-A-Y-L-O-R.
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Group: pota Message: 73774 From: LordTZer0 Date: 10/27/2014
Subject: Re: DAWN at $707 million?
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I always thought Mongolia would be a great place for a drive-in.
You know...for hoses. At the very least it's a great band name.
Mongolian Drive-In
 
 
In a message dated 10/24/2014 5:22:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:
I think it has yet to open in Tibet and outer Mongolia, but there being no movie theatres there
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Group: pota Message: 73775 From: Jeff K. Date: 10/27/2014
Subject: Rick Baker takes stock
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  POTA fans know as well as anyone that the demand for movie makeup is not what it once was. There was a time when Rick Baker was one of the kings of the field but now those jobs are fewer and he doesn't need his huge, impressive studio anymore. But what to do with all the great stuff he's created over his career? Hopefully it's going to the Motion Picture Academy Museum but meanwhile he gives us a tour (nice stuff from POTA2001).
 
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Group: pota Message: 73776 From: James Date: 10/28/2014
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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Daily update October 27, 2014

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From Time Travel to Sword and Sandal: 'The Planet of the Apes' Films They Almost Made

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Planet Of The Apes: The Evolution Of The Legend review - Den Of Geek

Planet of the Apes 3 Release, News and Updates: Speculations and Possibilities are Flying Like ... - Hallels

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Group: pota Message: 73777 From: William Burge Date: 10/28/2014
Subject: rare maurice evans telegram
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dear group,  this is a rare telegram dated feb 1, 1968  for a preview of planet of the apes sent by maurice evans - this was listed on ebay enjoy from william
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Group: pota Message: 73778 From: Dario Date: 10/28/2014
Subject: Re: rare maurice evans telegram [1 Attachment]
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And to Van "Green Hornet" Williams no less. Cool!

Dario

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 28, 2014, at 5:32 PM, "William Burge billburge48@... [pota]" <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

dear group,  this is a rare telegram dated feb 1, 1968  for a preview of planet of the apes sent by maurice evans - this was listed on ebay enjoy from william

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Group: pota Message: 73779 From: haristas Date: 10/29/2014
Subject: Re: rare maurice evans telegram
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I remember Roddy McDowall saying that he first saw the finished picture at a Fox screening in New York.  I wonder if that was it?
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Dario dario.sciola@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Oct 28, 2014 8:00 pm
Subject: Re: [pota] rare maurice evans telegram

 
And to Van "Green Hornet" Williams no less. Cool!

Dario

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 28, 2014, at 5:32 PM, "William Burge billburge48@... [pota]" <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 
dear group,  this is a rare telegram dated feb 1, 1968  for a preview of planet of the apes sent by maurice evans - this was listed on ebay enjoy from william
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Group: pota Message: 73780 From: William Burge Date: 10/30/2014
Subject: rare planet drive in theatre poster
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dear group,  here is a rare planet drive in poster enjoy from william
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Group: pota Message: 73781 From: jamesa1102 Date: 10/31/2014
Subject: Hasslein Institute of Temporal Physics
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Happy Friday everyone! This week's installment of the HASSLEIN INSTITUTE OF TEMPORAL PHYSICS now online. Thanks to all who contributed.

 

To read the HASSLEIN INSTITUTE click the banner on the group's home page or this link: http://www.potamediaarchive.com/HI.htm.

 

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Visit all the Group's special features including:

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Group: pota Message: 73782 From: Jeff K. Date: 10/31/2014
Subject: Pumpkin of the Apes
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Group: pota Message: 73783 From: James Date: 11/1/2014
Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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Star Trek-Planet Of The Apes Comic Preview

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NECA Release Final Images of Planet of the Apes Gorilla Soldier Two Pack

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As we are getting closer to the release date of the NECA Planet of the Apes Gorilla Soldier Two Pack next month, NECA have released final product ...

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Dawn Of The Planet Of The Apes Blu-ray and HD Digital Available Soon, Global Box Office Update

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Group: pota Message: 73784 From: mlccougar Date: 11/2/2014
Subject: NECA's Gorilla Soldier two pack (final images)
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http://www.actionfigurefury.com/neca-planet-of-the-apes-gorilla-soldier-two-pack/


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Group: pota Message: 73785 From: haristas Date: 11/2/2014
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The lack of ammo bandoliers is enough for me to take a pass on this.  Also, since they're called "soldier" gorillas, these should really be called BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES figures, and, as you say, they're not even accurate at even being that.  Phooey!
 
Neca, you blew it!  Damn you all to hell!!!!
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: mlccougar@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: PotaDG <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>; pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Nov 2, 2014 9:57 am
Subject: [pota] NECA's Gorilla Soldier two pack (final images)

 
These figures look great, but I can't figure out why they didn't give them ammo bandoliers? (It's not like they're not noticeable in BENEATH, so it's not like they would have overlooked them...)

http://www.actionfigurefury.com/neca-planet-of-the-apes-gorilla-soldier-two-pack/


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Group: pota Message: 73786 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/2/2014
Subject: Fox rewrites the box office record book in 2014
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  The Fox is in the hen house! The studio has reportedly broken both the domestic and international all-time box office record this year, with no small thanx to it's #2 movie of the year, "Dawn of the POTA". Fox has done $1.5 billion domestic this year and $3.254 billion internationally. And the year isn't even over yet. They still have their Moses movie "Exodus" (from the POTA producers), the reliable "Night At the Museum" franchise and a new "Madagascar" cartoon.
 
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Group: pota Message: 73787 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/2/2014
Subject: "Dawn" blu ray extras preview
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  Today is exactly one month until the release of "Dawn of the POTA" on blu ray and DVD. And Fox has released a short taste of what the extras will look like. We'll get more clips and promo interviews as the month progresses. Meanwhile, go blu with Blue Eyes:
 
 
 And here's a memo from Steven "Rise" Jacobs:
 
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Group: pota Message: 73788 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 11/2/2014
Subject: Re: "Dawn" blu ray extras preview
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I'm saddened to say I won't be getting it in Digital HD next week. I have a 3D TV so I'll be holding out for 3D Blu-ray. Plus I'd rather have it on hard copy. Personally I could never understand Digital HD. This is a movie, not songs that you could pick and choose between tunes. But if they could make an extra million from it, power too them :)

Al







At Nov 2, 2014, 7:23:34 PM, 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota]<'pota@yahoogroups.com'> wrote:
























Today is exactly one month until the release of
"Dawn of the POTA" on blu ray and DVD. And Fox has released a short taste of
what the extras will look like. We'll get more clips and promo interviews as the
month progresses. Meanwhile, go blu with Blue Eyes:




And here's a memo from Steven "Rise"
Jacobs:
















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Group: pota Message: 73789 From: mlccougar Date: 11/3/2014
Subject: Re: NECA's Gorilla Soldier two pack (final images)
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In a message dated 11/2/2014 9:26:57 AM Central Standard Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:


The lack of ammo bandoliers is enough for me to take a pass on this.  Also, since they're called "soldier" gorillas, these should really be called BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES figures, and, as you say, they're not even accurate at even being that.  Phooey!

Neca, you blew it!  Damn you all to hell!!!!
 



-----Original Message-----
From: mlccougar@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: PotaDG <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>; pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Nov 2, 2014 9:57 am
Subject: [pota] NECA's Gorilla Soldier two pack (final images)

These figures look great, but I can't figure out why they didn't give them ammo bandoliers? (It's not like they're not noticeable in BENEATH, so it's not like they would have overlooked them...)

http://www.actionfigurefury.com/neca-planet-of-the-apes-gorilla-soldier-two-pack/










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Group: pota Message: 73790 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/3/2014
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  Mego's wuz also called "Soldier Ape". That's just what they are considered by people. But I'd pass on these. They seem slapped together to give Toyz-R-Us an exclusive. There's too many great NECAs coming.

Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 3:47 AM
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: NECA's Gorilla Soldier two pack (final images)

 

You mentioned that since these in the two pack are referred to as "Soldiers", they should be referred to as BENEATH gorillas: Let's not forget, the first (individual release) NECA gorilla is also called a "Soldier", so where does that leave him?




In a message dated 11/2/2014 9:26:57 AM Central Standard Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:


The lack of ammo bandoliers is enough for me to take a pass on this.  Also, since they're called "soldier" gorillas, these should really be called BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES figures, and, as you say, they're not even accurate at even being that.  Phooey!

Neca, you blew it!  Damn you all to hell!!!!
 



-----Original Message-----
From: mlccougar@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: PotaDG <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>; pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Nov 2, 2014 9:57 am
Subject: [pota] NECA's Gorilla Soldier two pack (final images)

These figures look great, but I can't figure out why they didn't give them ammo bandoliers? (It's not like they're not noticeable in BENEATH, so it's not like they would have overlooked them...)

http://www.actionfigurefury.com/neca-planet-of-the-apes-gorilla-soldier-two-pack/










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Group: pota Message: 73791 From: haristas Date: 11/3/2014
Subject: Re: NECA's Gorilla Soldier two pack (final images)
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You mentioned that since these in the two pack are referred to as "Soldiers", they should be referred to as BENEATH gorillas: Let's not forget, the first (individual release) NECA gorilla is also called a "Soldier", so where does that leave him?


 
 
 
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Group: pota Message: 73792 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 11/3/2014
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You can find Mark's stills collections and tons of other stuff here:

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Group: pota Message: 73793 From: mlccougar Date: 11/3/2014
Subject: Re: NECA's Gorilla Soldier two pack (final images)
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.html.htmlI can see where you say they seem kind of slapped together... One other thing I don't like about them (in addition to no bandolier) is that they're saying the two pack Soldiers are individual sculpts: If anyone can tell me what the differences are between these two, I'd be glad to hear it (I can't tell a difference between them other than the paint jobs...)

If my Toys R Us carries these (I didn't see any of the first wave there), I'll probably end up buying them... I don't think they're terrible, I do think they look good, but I can see where you and Rory have issues with them... Well, with no bandoliers and looking exactly the same outside of paints, I guess *I* have issues with them too ;) They're something that if I can get them, I'll buy them but I won't be actively seeking them...



In a message dated 11/3/2014 8:24:54 AM Central Standard Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:

Mego's wuz also called "Soldier Ape". That's just what they are considered by people. But I'd pass on these. They seem slapped together to give Toyz-R-Us an exclusive. There's too many great NECAs coming.


From: mlccougar@... [pota]
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 3:47 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pota] Re: NECA's Gorilla Soldier two pack (final images)




You mentioned that since these in the two pack are referred to as "Soldiers", they should be referred to as BENEATH gorillas: Let's not forget, the first (individual release) NECA gorilla is also called a "Soldier", so where does that leave him?




In a message dated 11/2/2014 9:26:57 AM Central Standard Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:


The lack of ammo bandoliers is enough for me to take a pass on this.  Also, since they're called "soldier" gorillas, these should really be called BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES figures, and, as you say, they're not even accurate at even being that.  Phooey!

Neca, you blew it!  Damn you all to hell!!!!




-----Original Message-----
From: mlccougar@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
To: PotaDG <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>; pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Nov 2, 2014 9:57 am
Subject: [pota] NECA's Gorilla Soldier two pack (final images)

These figures look great, but I can't figure out why they didn't give them ammo bandoliers? (It's not like they're not noticeable in BENEATH, so it's not like they would have overlooked them...)

http://www.actionfigurefury.com/neca-planet-of-the-apes-gorilla-soldier-two-pack/















Posted by: "Jeff K." <veetus@...>


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Group: pota Message: 73794 From: mlccougar Date: 11/3/2014
Subject: Re: NECA's Gorilla Soldier two pack (final images)
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http://news.toyark.com/2014/03/18/neca-planet-apes-soldier-2-pack-preview-121462






In a message dated 11/3/2014 8:44:24 AM Central Standard Time, MLCCOUGAR@... writes:

I can see where you say they seem kind of slapped together... One other thing I don't like about them (in addition to no bandolier) is that they're saying the two pack Soldiers are individual sculpts: If anyone can tell me what the differences are between these two, I'd be glad to hear it (I can't tell a difference between them other than the paint jobs...)


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Group: pota Message: 73795 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/3/2014
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  It's a big day for Fox as Stacey Snider becomes co-chairman. She'll help call the shots on "Apes 3", which will film next year if they're keeping to the 2016 schedule.
   She wuz chairman, er, chairwoman, of Universal from 1999 to 2006; then she moved to Dreamworks under Steven Spielberg. She sez: "(Fox head) Jim Gianopulos has assembled the finest group of executives and filmmakers in the business; and they're producing impactful, culturally relevant films. I'm excited and privileged to join them in their pursuit of excellence". She added her favorite POTA character is Virgil (no she didn't!).
  Fox has had a record-breaking year and I like to think it's because the quality of their movies has improved. Good luck to her.
 
 
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Group: pota Message: 73796 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 11/4/2014
Subject: Paul Dehn was born on this day in 1912, Wednesday, 05 November 2014
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    Group: pota Message: 73797 From: leroymcconnell Date: 11/5/2014
    Subject: BENEATH THE PLANET OF THE APES - VICTOR BUONO - MUTANT MASK - FAT MA
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    I have just posted this item on E-bay and thought the group might be interested in it.  


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    Group: pota Message: 73798 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/6/2014
    Subject: Jason Clarke signed for further "Apes"
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      While promoting his new movie "The Better Angels" (in which he plays Abraham Lincoln's dad), Jason (Malcolm) Clarke said he doesn't know anything about Apes 3 but is signed 4 another one. It's possible they signed him for two "just in case" and maybe he won't be back. But I think if they are going to do the Apes vs. Humans War next, it would be good if Malcolm and Ellie are on the human side trying to stop the carnage. With Jackie Earle Haley as the Pattonesque general who won't stand for crying around these brave human soldiers. Shaddup!!!
     
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    Group: pota Message: 73799 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/6/2014
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      Looks like Fox is going to promote the "Dawn" cast in the Best Supporting category (including CG thesps Andy Serkis and Toby Kebbell). They are looking at it as an ensemble film (plus it might be easier to get a nod). Of course, the Oscars have a rough history with sci-fi and with sequels, so it looks pretty bleak. But lately sci-fi has been making inroads and the film wuz widely admired. "Interstellar" wuz supposed to be the sci-fi darling of the year but it's reviews have been mixed.
     
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    Group: pota Message: 73800 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/6/2014
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      NECA has put up a photo gallery of their Ursus, Zira and Original Movie Zauis. They are due out this month, I believe.
     
     
     And while we're at it, here's their Lawgiver statue, due in February.
     
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    Group: pota Message: 73801 From: jamesa1102 Date: 11/7/2014
    Subject: Hasslein Institute of Temporal Physics
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    TGIF! A new installment of the HASSLEIN INSTITUTE OF TEMPORAL PHYSICS is now available. Thanks to everyone who contributed.

     

    To read the HASSLEIN INSTITUTE click the banner on the group's Yahoo! home page or click this link: http://www.potamediaarchive.com/HI.htm.

     

    Have a great weekend everybody!

     

    Visit all the Group's special features including:

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    Group: pota Message: 73802 From: haristas Date: 11/7/2014
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    Entertainmentearth.com says it's January for those new set of figures.  The gorilla two pack is this month, I think.  That Lawgiver looks pretty good.
     
     
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    Sent: Thu, Nov 6, 2014 4:41 pm
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      NECA has put up a photo gallery of their Ursus, Zira and Original Movie Zauis. They are due out this month, I believe.
     
     
     And while we're at it, here's their Lawgiver statue, due in February.
     
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    Group: pota Message: 73803 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 11/7/2014
    Subject: JEFF KRUEGER'S BIRTHDAY, Saturday, 08 November 2014
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      Group: pota Message: 73804 From: jamesa1102 Date: 11/8/2014
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      Have a great birthday Jeff!
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      Group: pota Message: 73805 From: James Date: 11/8/2014
      Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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        Group: pota Message: 73806 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 11/8/2014
        Subject: Severn Darden was born on this day in 1929, Sunday, 09 November 2014
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          Group: pota Message: 73807 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/9/2014
          Subject: Jeff's freebie (and the bean)
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            Thanx, James!
             The Harbinger of Death (Katee Sackhoff) for "Apes 3"!

          Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 8:56 AM
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          Have a great birthday Jeff!

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          Group: pota Message: 73808 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 11/9/2014
          Subject: Tod Andrews was born on this day in 1914, Monday, 10 November 2014
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            Group: pota Message: 73809 From: George Taylor Date: 11/10/2014
            Subject: Interstellar: foreshadowing elements of an upcoming POTA sequel?
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            Interstellar, starring Rise of the Planet of the Apes' John Lithgow (who portrayed James' Franco's character's father) and also featuring David Oyelowo (Rise's callous yet impactful pharmaceutical executive) is cleaning up at the box office:


            http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=interstellar.htm


            Rightly so, too. Here's the official website:

            http://www.interstellarmovie.com/


            The trailers tell maybe just half of the story, by the way:


            https://interstellar.withgoogle.com/transmissions#/trailers/detail


            My question is: could this marvel of the universe of a movie, this glorious paradox that takes you to the stars, be sort of foreshadowing plot elements from an upcoming POTA sequel involving George Taylor & crew?

            As I don't want to spoil this new frontier in Sci Fi entertainment for anyone, I'll tread very lightly on plot details as if they're part of the Forbidden Zone. If you want to see a visually, emotionally, intellectually and perhaps even spiritually magnificent adventure though, Interstellar is the one for you this Holiday season. It just might sway 20th Century Fox to go further into Taylor's, Landon's, Dodge's and Stewart's eventful space travels, too, as this masterpiece is demonstrating that the audience appetite for such travels clearly exists. But there's more potentially on the horizon for Taylor and crew than just an exciting temporal roller coaster ride, as Interstellar's plot twists seem to suggest. The astronauts might not be as helpless this time around, if they play their cards right...

            Food for thought from Houston... :-)

            As a sidenote, a virus that makes humans more dumb has just been discovered:
            http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/virus-that-makes-humans-more-stupid-discovered-9849920.html"
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            Group: pota Message: 73810 From: haristas Date: 11/10/2014
            Subject: Re: Interstellar: foreshadowing elements of an upcoming POTA sequel
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            I saw INTERSTELLAR yesterday.  I didn't think it was that good.  In fact, I thought it was rather sappy.  I doubt it'll have much influence with the next POTA movie, which is probably already written, though not yet rewritten.
             
             
             
             
            -----Original Message-----
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            To: Pota <Pota@yahoogroups.com>
            Sent: Mon, Nov 10, 2014 6:56 am
            Subject: [pota] Interstellar: foreshadowing elements of an upcoming POTA sequel?

             

            Interstellar, starring Rise of the Planet of the Apes' John Lithgow (who portrayed James' Franco's character's father) and also featuring David Oyelowo (Rise's callous yet impactful pharmaceutical executive) is cleaning up at the box office:

            http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=interstellar.htm

            Rightly so, too. Here's the official website:

            http://www.interstellarmovie.com/

            The trailers tell maybe just half of the story, by the way:

            https://interstellar.withgoogle.com/transmissions#/trailers/detail

            My question is: could this marvel of the universe of a movie, this glorious paradox that takes you to the stars, be sort of foreshadowing plot elements from an upcoming POTA sequel involving George Taylor & crew?

            As I don't want to spoil this new frontier in Sci Fi entertainment for anyone, I'll tread very lightly on plot details as if they're part of the Forbidden Zone. If you want to see a visually, emotionally, intellectually and perhaps even spiritually magnificent adventure though, Interstellar is the one for you this Holiday season. It just might sway 20th Century Fox to go further into Taylor's, Landon's, Dodge's and Stewart's eventful space travels, too, as this masterpiece is demonstrating that the audience appetite for such travels clearly exists. But there's more potentially on the horizon for Taylor and crew than just an exciting temporal roller coaster ride, as Interstellar's plot twists seem to suggest. The astronauts might not be as helpless this time around, if they play their cards right...

            Food for thought from Houston... :-)

            As a sidenote, a virus that makes humans more dumb has just been discovered:
            http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/virus-that-makes-humans-more-stupid-discovered-9849920.html"
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            Group: pota Message: 73811 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/10/2014
            Subject: Re: Interstellar: foreshadowing elements of an upcoming POTA sequel
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              I was disappointed in "Interstellar". I was looking forward to this movie for a long time. First Spielberg was going to do it, then Chris Nolan, with physicist Kip Thorne as consultant. And also "2001" as a model. I was expecting a hard science epic about traveling to a black hole (interesting, since I posited black holes as a way for things to work out in my POTA chronology). The science in the flick is just not believable (I guess the black hole itself is accurate).
              As far as storytelling, it's about family and the passage of time and I'd be lying if I didn't say my eyes got moist at times. But I'd compare it more to "E. T." than "2001". Even though Christopher Nolan directed it, it's a Spielberg movie. I'm glad Hollywood is rolling the dice these days on legit sci-fi movies ("Gravity", "Dawn of the POTA", "Interstellar") but I have to call 'em as I see 'em.

            Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 8:53 PM
            Subject: [pota] Interstellar: foreshadowing elements of an upcoming POTA sequel?

             


            Interstellar, starring Rise of the Planet of the Apes' John Lithgow (who portrayed James' Franco's character's father) and also featuring David Oyelowo (Rise's callous yet impactful pharmaceutical executive) is cleaning up at the box office:

            http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=interstellar.htm

            Rightly so, too. Here's the official website:

            http://www.interstellarmovie.com/

            The trailers tell maybe just half of the story, by the way:

            https://interstellar.withgoogle.com/transmissions#/trailers/detail

            My question is: could this marvel of the universe of a movie, this glorious paradox that takes you to the stars, be sort of foreshadowing plot elements from an upcoming POTA sequel involving George Taylor & crew?

            As I don't want to spoil this new frontier in Sci Fi entertainment for anyone, I'll tread very lightly on plot details as if they're part of the Forbidden Zone. If you want to see a visually, emotionally, intellectually and perhaps even spiritually magnificent adventure though, Interstellar is the one for you this Holiday season. It just might sway 20th Century Fox to go further into Taylor's, Landon's, Dodge's and Stewart's eventful space travels, too, as this masterpiece is demonstrating that the audience appetite for such travels clearly exists. But there's more potentially on the horizon for Taylor and crew than just an exciting temporal roller coaster ride, as Interstellar's plot twists seem to suggest. The astronauts might not be as helpless this time around, if they play their cards right...

            Food for thought from Houston... :-)

            As a sidenote, a virus that makes humans more dumb has just been discovered:
            http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/virus-that-makes-humans-more-stupid-discovered-9849920.html

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            Group: pota Message: 73812 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/10/2014
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              That Jason Clarke interview I posted, he said the head of Fox, Jim Gianopolus, told him that he recently e-mailed director Matt Reeves to remind him of the 2016 release date. I get the feeling it will be the same as "Dawn"; Reeves will have a lot of freedom to do what he wants as long as he makes the release date. If you want a movie two years later there is not a lot of time for second guessing. The script will have to be done early 2015, casting in spring, shooting in the summer, and the rest of the time doing the FX/finishing. Reeves did it before.

            Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 6:14 AM
            Subject: [pota] Re: Interstellar: foreshadowing elements of an upcoming POTA sequel?

             

            I saw INTERSTELLAR yesterday.  I didn't think it was that good.  In fact, I thought it was rather sappy.  I doubt it'll have much influence with the next POTA movie, which is probably already written, though not yet rewritten.
             
             
             
             
            -----Original Message-----
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            To: Pota <Pota@yahoogroups.com>
            Sent: Mon, Nov 10, 2014 6:56 am
            Subject: [pota] Interstellar: foreshadowing elements of an upcoming POTA sequel?

             

            Interstellar, starring Rise of the Planet of the Apes' John Lithgow (who portrayed James' Franco's character's father) and also featuring David Oyelowo (Rise's callous yet impactful pharmaceutical executive) is cleaning up at the box office:

            http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=interstellar.htm

            Rightly so, too. Here's the official website:

            http://www.interstellarmovie.com/

            The trailers tell maybe just half of the story, by the way:

            https://interstellar.withgoogle.com/transmissions#/trailers/detail

            My question is: could this marvel of the universe of a movie, this glorious paradox that takes you to the stars, be sort of foreshadowing plot elements from an upcoming POTA sequel involving George Taylor & crew?

            As I don't want to spoil this new frontier in Sci Fi entertainment for anyone, I'll tread very lightly on plot details as if they're part of the Forbidden Zone. If you want to see a visually, emotionally, intellectually and perhaps even spiritually magnificent adventure though, Interstellar is the one for you this Holiday season. It just might sway 20th Century Fox to go further into Taylor's, Landon's, Dodge's and Stewart's eventful space travels, too, as this masterpiece is demonstrating that the audience appetite for such travels clearly exists. But there's more potentially on the horizon for Taylor and crew than just an exciting temporal roller coaster ride, as Interstellar's plot twists seem to suggest. The astronauts might not be as helpless this time around, if they play their cards right...

            Food for thought from Houston... :-)

            As a sidenote, a virus that makes humans more dumb has just been discovered:
            http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/virus-that-makes-humans-more-stupid-discovered-9849920.html"

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            Group: pota Message: 73813 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/10/2014
            Subject: "Dawn" director talks "Apes 3"
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              The "Dawn of the POTA" gang is out and about promoting the upcoming "Dawn" blu ray/DVDs (December 2nd). While talking to Coming Soon, director Matt Reeves gave a little hint where the next flick could go. He sez in "Rise", Caesar wuz a revolutionary. In "Dawn", he wuz a leader. Where in hell do they go from here?
             
              Reeves sez: "The notion of what we're after with the 3rd is to sort of continue that trajectory and see how he becomes a seminal figure in ape history. He almost becomes sort of like an ape Moses. A mythic status... We're trying to play out those themes".
             
              Yeah? So, what does that mean? Will he be worshipped? Will it go to his head? Will absolute power corrupt absolutely? It's hard to imagine Caesar being corrupted but that's what might make it interesting. Moses wuz called the "lawgiver", so will Caesar become the Lawgiver? Caesar has been the hero for two movies. Could something so terrible happen that he turns his back on the humans and seals their fate?
              Caesar fans: Silence him! You go too far!!
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            Group: pota Message: 73814 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/11/2014
            Subject: Serkis, Kebbell chime in on "Apes 3"
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              With director Matt Reeves & Andy Serkis out promoting the "Dawn" blu-ray, it looks like they will be getting together to talk "Apes 3" in earnest for the first time tonight, Monday. Both agree the future won't be easy for Caesar. Reeves sez the next sequel is "going to press into some very painful emotional places for him". Serkis adds: "There's potential war (at the end of "Dawn"). He's going to have to lead the apes in darker times. I think it's going to be very powerful". Darker than "Dawn"? Get out of town!
              Toby Kebbell sez he'd love 2 return, either as Koba or a new character.
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            Group: pota Message: 73815 From: mlccougar Date: 11/11/2014
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            .html.htmlDon't even get things like that going, The Lawgiver is an ORANGUTAN, not some green-eyed chimp from a rebooted franchise...

            That was one of my predictions with the way they keep harping on about how Caesar "almost becomes sort of like an ape Moses. A mythic status... We're trying to play out those themes": I said people were going to start saying (or in your case, asking if) Caesar is/will become The Lawgiver and now with speculations like this occuring, it looks like the dam has sprung a leak... I just hope they get that leak repaired...

            I can see it now: People will say Caesar is The Lawgiver and that some ape history revisionist changed him from a chimp to an orangutan (which of course we know is not the case because he is and always will be an orang...) People will get so desperate to try to connect the rebooted films to the original(s) that they will come up with all kinds of half-a**ed ideas and speculations to try to get them to "fit" together...






            In a message dated 11/10/2014 11:16:49 PM Central Standard Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:

            Moses wuz called the "lawgiver", so will Caesar become the Lawgiver?


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            Group: pota Message: 73816 From: James Date: 11/11/2014
            Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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            Group: pota Message: 73817 From: haristas Date: 11/11/2014
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            Just relax.  They aren't going to make Caesar the Lawgiver.  These new movies are part of the unrecorded pre-history of the simian civilization.  We know from the original movie that the Scared Scrolls won't be written until around 2778 AD, these new movies are being set around 2026 AD.  Plenty of time to play around with events that will be long forgotten by the time of the '68 original.       
             
             
             
             
             
             
            -----Original Message-----
            From: mlccougar@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
            To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
            Sent: Tue, Nov 11, 2014 6:36 am
            Subject: Re: [pota] "Dawn" director talks "Apes 3"

             
            Don't even get things like that going, The Lawgiver is an ORANGUTAN, not some green-eyed chimp from a rebooted franchise...

            That was one of my predictions with the way they keep harping on about how Caesar "almost becomes sort of like an ape Moses. A mythic status... We're trying to play out those themes": I said people were going to start saying (or in your case, asking if) Caesar is/will become The Lawgiver and now with speculations like this occuring, it looks like the dam has sprung a leak... I just hope they get that leak repaired...

            I can see it now: People will say Caesar is The Lawgiver and that some ape history revisionist changed him from a chimp to an orangutan (which of course we know is not the case because he is and always will be an orang...) People will get so desperate to try to connect the rebooted films to the original(s) that they will come up with all kinds of half-a**ed ideas and speculations to try to get them to "fit" together...






            In a message dated 11/10/2014 11:16:49 PM Central Standard Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:

            Moses wuz called the "lawgiver", so will Caesar become the Lawgiver?


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            Group: pota Message: 73818 From: haristas Date: 11/11/2014
            Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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            Is it just me, or does the Lawgiver look a little cross-eyed?
             
             
             
             
             
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            Sent: Tue, Nov 11, 2014 6:43 am
            Subject: [pota] FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

             
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            Group: pota Message: 73819 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/11/2014
            Subject: "Dawn" available for download
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              The "Dawn of the POTA" blu-ray/DVD arrives in 21 days (but who's counting?). For those who can't wait, the movie is now available for legit download.
             
             
             The gang has been out doing interviews and generally raising the ape-wareness again.
             
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            Group: pota Message: 73820 From: haristas Date: 11/11/2014
            Subject: Vudu Dawn
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            On Vudu, DAWN is available with featurettes.  Personally, I'm happy to wait for the Blu-ray.
             
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            Group: pota Message: 73821 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/11/2014
            Subject: more from the "Apes 3" director
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              Matt Reeves sez he's outlining "Apes 3" right now ("I'm pretty excited about it") and gives us a little more hint about it: "The oncoming war is what "Dawn" was all about avoiding and it wasn't avoided, so what does that mean to (Caesar) as a character and how will he lead his (apes) through this?". So it would seem it's going to be about the war and it will turn Caesar into the ape Moses. Got it.
              Reeves adds that the title he's got in mind would be one word shorter than "Dawn of the Planet of the Apes". Well, it won't be "War For the..." or "War of the...". Maybe it's only one word and then POTA. "Damn the Planet of the Apes"? "Ascend the Planet of the Apes"?
             
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            Group: pota Message: 73822 From: Dario Date: 11/11/2014
            Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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            He looks Expensive. $80 ouch!

            And yes he does look a tad cross-eyed.

            Why do lawgivers always have to be way more expensive. The size consideration explains a slight surcharge, but this is four times the price of the other NECA figures. 
            As much as I would like to have one, I'm going to have to pass.

            Dario

            Sent from my iPad

            On Nov 11, 2014, at 9:34 AM, "Haristas@... [pota]" <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

             

            Is it just me, or does the Lawgiver look a little cross-eyed?
             
             
             
             
             
            -----Original Message-----
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            To: Pota <Pota@yahoogroups.com>
            Sent: Tue, Nov 11, 2014 6:43 am
            Subject: [pota] FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

             
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            Group: pota Message: 73823 From: Dario Sciola Date: 11/11/2014
            Subject: Dawn novelization
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            Finally got around to writing that Dawn novelization vs movie comparison:
            http://lazaruslair.wordpress.com/2014/11/11/dawn-of-the-planet-of-the-apes-alex-irvine-2014/

            Dario
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            Group: pota Message: 73824 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/11/2014
            Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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             a) $60
             b) not final version
             c) we don't know if the Lawgiver was cross-eyed

            Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 7:38 AM
            Subject: Re: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

             

            He looks Expensive. $80 ouch!

            And yes he does look a tad cross-eyed.

            Why do lawgivers always have to be way more expensive. The size consideration explains a slight surcharge, but this is four times the price of the other NECA figures. 
            As much as I would like to have one, I'm going to have to pass.

            Dario

            Sent from my iPad

            On Nov 11, 2014, at 9:34 AM, "Haristas@... [pota]" <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

             

            Is it just me, or does the Lawgiver look a little cross-eyed?
             
             
             
             
             
            -----Original Message-----
            From: 'James' JamesA1102@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
            To: Pota <Pota@yahoogroups.com>
            Sent: Tue, Nov 11, 2014 6:43 am
            Subject: [pota] FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

             
            Google
            "planet of the apes"
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            Group: pota Message: 73825 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/11/2014
            Subject: R.I.P. David Watson?
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              There's a tweet going around that the OTHER movie Cornelius, "Beneath"'s David Watson, has died. But I see no other sign of it. RIP if that's the case.
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            Group: pota Message: 73826 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/11/2014
            Subject: "Rise" director talks "Dawn"
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              Last night (11/10) wuz the premiere screening of Rupert Wyatt's 1st movie since "Rise of the POTA". "The Gambler" stars none other than Mark (POTA2001) Wahlberg and also has Argo's John Chambers, John Goodman. Wyatt has also been doing press for the film and Collider asked him to give his thoughts on the Apes sequel that went on without him.
             He sez: "I thought it was beautifully directed; an incredibly well-made film. It's hard, you know, because I very much wanted to do the sequel. I was very passionate about doing the sequel and other (Ape) films. I love that franchise and I'm thrilled in a way for Matt and what he achieved with that because he achieved something I probably couldn't have because he did something different. He's his own filmmaker, I'm a different filmmaker, so it's great he's had success with that film and the fact that the franchise lives, that's what we're all hoping for".
              He talks about how he was going to bring the apes back into the city to learn the human machines; he sez "(they'd) evolve technically, sort of figure out the combustion engine, so in a way interact with our society. And for me, I found that fascinating". Sounds to me more like a prequel to Boulle's novel than to the society of the original flicks.
              So what happened to Wyatt? The official reason wuz that he didn't feel he had enough time to do the film by 2014 (after false starts with scripts that weren't working). According to producer Dylan Clarke, Wyatt was kind of aped out and wanted to make a smaller film first. But 2014 would have been 3 years, long enough between films for the studio. Matt Reeves came in fresh and pretty much cranked it out and made the release. Now Reeves is in the position Wyatt wuz, burned out from making one ape movie but having to go right into a new one (especially if they still want a 2016 release).
             
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            Group: pota Message: 73827 From: pota@yahoogroups.com Date: 11/11/2014
            Subject: Kim Hunter was born on this day in 1922, Wednesday, 12 November 2014
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            Attachments :
              "Kim Hunter was born on this day in 1922" reminder
              When
              Wednesday, 12 November 2014
              12:00 AM to 12:00 AM
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              Notes
              Zira in Planet, Beneath and Escape
              From
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              Group: pota Message: 73828 From: georgetaylor68 Date: 11/12/2014
              Subject: Re: more from the "Apes 3" director
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              Might the title be:

              Saving the Planet of the Apes?
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              Group: pota Message: 73829 From: mlccougar Date: 11/12/2014
              Subject: Re: more from the "Apes 3" director
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              .html.htmlI think the title of the new one will be (or should be) "Rebooting the Planet of the Apes"...





              In a message dated 11/12/2014 12:00:34 AM Central Standard Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:

              Might the title be:

              Saving the Planet of the Apes?


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              Group: pota Message: 73830 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 11/12/2014
              Subject: Re: R.I.P. David Watson?
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              Some guy replied to the tweet and said David Watson died over a month ago. Like yeah, thanks for sharing A MONTH LATER! Moron :)


              At Nov 11, 2014, 7:30:20 PM, 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota]<' pota@yahoogroups.com'> wrote:
























              There's a tweet going around that the OTHER movie
              Cornelius, "Beneath"'s David Watson, has died. But I see no other sign of it.
              RIP if that's the case.














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              Group: pota Message: 73831 From: mlccougar Date: 11/12/2014
              Subject: Re: R.I.P. David Watson?
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              .html.htmlDid they say how old he was when he died?


              In a message dated 11/12/2014 5:57:45 AM Central Standard Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:

              Some guy replied to the tweet and said David Watson died over a month ago. Like yeah, thanks for sharing A MONTH LATER! Moron :)


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              Group: pota Message: 73832 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 11/12/2014
              Subject: Re: R.I.P. David Watson?
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              74 years old which sounds right. David was born in 1940

              Al







              At Nov 12, 2014, 6:59:06 AM, mlccougar@... [pota]<'pota@yahoogroups.com'> wrote:





















              Did they say how old he was when he died?





              In a message dated 11/12/2014 5:57:45 AM Central Standard Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:



              Some guy replied to the tweet and said David Watson died over a month ago. Like yeah, thanks for sharing A MONTH LATER! Moron :)

















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              Group: pota Message: 73833 From: haristas Date: 11/12/2014
              Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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              I have a Sideshow Lawgiver, but I'm still going to get this.  It's expensive because it's going to be limited.
               
               
               
               
               
              -----Original Message-----
              From: Dario dario.sciola@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
              To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
              Sent: Tue, Nov 11, 2014 5:47 pm
              Subject: Re: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

               
              He looks Expensive. $80 ouch!

              And yes he does look a tad cross-eyed.

              Why do lawgivers always have to be way more expensive. The size consideration explains a slight surcharge, but this is four times the price of the other NECA figures. 
              As much as I would like to have one, I'm going to have to pass.

              Dario

              Sent from my iPad

              On Nov 11, 2014, at 9:34 AM, "Haristas@... [pota]" <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

               
              Is it just me, or does the Lawgiver look a little cross-eyed?
               
               
               
               
               
              -----Original Message-----
              From: 'James' JamesA1102@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
              To: Pota <Pota@yahoogroups.com>
              Sent: Tue, Nov 11, 2014 6:43 am
              Subject: [pota] FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

               
              Google
              "planet of the apes"
              Daily update November 10, 2014
              NEWS
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              NECA have revealed something really special for their Planet of the Apes line – the greatest ape of all time. The Classic Planet of the Apes Lawgiver ...
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              Group: pota Message: 73834 From: haristas Date: 11/12/2014
              Subject: Re: R.I.P. David Watson?
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              Given that no one has heard from David Watson since 1970, I'm not surprised he could have died and it made news no where.
               
               
               
               
              -----Original Message-----
              From: Alex Ruiz pota1968@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
              To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
              Sent: Wed, Nov 12, 2014 6:57 am
              Subject: RE: [pota] R.I.P. David Watson?

               
              Some guy replied to the tweet and said David Watson died over a month ago. Like yeah, thanks for sharing A MONTH LATER! Moron :)


              At Nov 11, 2014, 7:30:20 PM, 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota]pota@yahoogroups.com'> wrote:
























              There's a tweet going around that the OTHER movie
              Cornelius, "Beneath"'s David Watson, has died. But I see no other sign of it.
              RIP if that's the case.














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              Group: pota Message: 73835 From: haristas Date: 11/12/2014
              Subject: Re: R.I.P. David Watson?
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              IMDb.com has it listed that David Watson died of a heart attack on October 5th in New York City.
               
               
               
               
               
               
               
               
               
              -----Original Message-----
              From: Haristas@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
              To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
              Sent: Wed, Nov 12, 2014 7:45 am
              Subject: [pota] Re: R.I.P. David Watson?

               
              Given that no one has heard from David Watson since 1970, I'm not surprised he could have died and it made news no where.
               
               
               
               
              -----Original Message-----
              From: Alex Ruiz pota1968@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
              To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
              Sent: Wed, Nov 12, 2014 6:57 am
              Subject: RE: [pota] R.I.P. David Watson?

               
              Some guy replied to the tweet and said David Watson died over a month ago. Like yeah, thanks for sharing A MONTH LATER! Moron :)


              At Nov 11, 2014, 7:30:20 PM, 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota]pota@yahoogroups.com'> wrote:
























              There's a tweet going around that the OTHER movie
              Cornelius, "Beneath"'s David Watson, has died. But I see no other sign of it.
              RIP if that's the case.














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              Group: pota Message: 73836 From: mlccougar Date: 11/12/2014
              Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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              .html.htmlI plan on buying it, despite its odd eyes., but that could easily change... I totally agree with Dario about the price being unfair though, it doesn't take any more to make one of those compared to the regular 7" figures: In fact I'd guess it could be easier since there's no joints that have to move, etc...  The biggest reason I want this Lawgiver is because it's probably the closest they'll come to making a Lawgiver statue close to Mego scale... With my luck, I'll buy this statue and then they'll come along with one scaled for the 8" figures NECA's planning... But if they do that, since it'd be geared toward an 8" scale, they'd probably charge over $100.00 based on the pricing for the 7" scale statue...

              One thing though, I don't like that it's "limited edition" because sometimes it seems like they do that type of thing to try to get people to go on buying frenzies to "one up" someone else... By that I mean say person A is a real egotist and person B enjoys something as much (if not more) than person A but they don't have "everything" made... Then in some cases person A would be saying "I like franchise X more than you do because I have "everything" made on it."...






              In a message dated 11/12/2014 6:38:29 AM Central Standard Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:

              I have a Sideshow Lawgiver, but I'm still going to get this.  It's expensive because it's going to be limited.
               




              -----Original Message-----
              From: Dario dario.sciola@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
              To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
              Sent: Tue, Nov 11, 2014 5:47 pm
              Subject: Re: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

              He looks Expensive. $80 ouch!


              And yes he does look a tad cross-eyed.


              Why do lawgivers always have to be way more expensive. The size consideration explains a slight surcharge, but this is four times the price of the other NECA figures.
              As much as I would like to have one, I'm going to have to pass.


              Dario

              Sent from my iPad

              On Nov 11, 2014, at 9:34 AM, "Haristas@... [pota]" <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:




              Is it just me, or does the Lawgiver look a little cross-eyed?












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              Group: pota Message: 73837 From: mikem3978 Date: 11/12/2014
              Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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              A whole lot of things in this country are not priced based on the cost of manufacture, but what they think people are willing to pay for it.  Marketing is marketing, just part of the process.  I think it looks great, and I'm willing to pay $60 for it and I have it pre-ordered.  I think it's better to ignore "limited edition", numbered items, etc. and just think am I willing to pay that price for that item.  If you are, great, if not, don't buy it.  It's just incredible to me that companies are still making collectibles for our favorite movie 46 YEARS after it's release.  I couldn't be happier about it. 


              ---In pota@yahoogroups.com, <mlccougar@...> wrote :

              I plan on buying it, despite its odd eyes., but that could easily change... I totally agree with Dario about the price being unfair though, it doesn't take any more to make one of those compared to the regular 7" figures: In fact I'd guess it could be easier since there's no joints that have to move, etc...  The biggest reason I want this Lawgiver is because it's probably the closest they'll come to making a Lawgiver statue close to Mego scale... With my luck, I'll buy this statue and then they'll come along with one scaled for the 8" figures NECA's planning... But if they do that, since it'd be geared toward an 8" scale, they'd probably charge over $100.00 based on the pricing for the 7" scale statue...

              One thing though, I don't like that it's "limited edition" because sometimes it seems like they do that type of thing to try to get people to go on buying frenzies to "one up" someone else... By that I mean say person A is a real egotist and person B enjoys something as much (if not more) than person A but they don't have "everything" made... Then in some cases person A would be saying "I like franchise X more than you do because I have "everything" made on it."...






              In a message dated 11/12/2014 6:38:29 AM Central Standard Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:

              I have a Sideshow Lawgiver, but I'm still going to get this.  It's expensive because it's going to be limited.
               




              -----Original Message-----
              From: Dario dario.sciola@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
              To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
              Sent: Tue, Nov 11, 2014 5:47 pm
              Subject: Re: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

              He looks Expensive. $80 ouch!


              And yes he does look a tad cross-eyed.


              Why do lawgivers always have to be way more expensive. The size consideration explains a slight surcharge, but this is four times the price of the other NECA figures.
              As much as I would like to have one, I'm going to have to pass.


              Dario

              Sent from my iPad

              On Nov 11, 2014, at 9:34 AM, " Haristas@... [pota]" <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:




              Is it just me, or does the Lawgiver look a little cross-eyed?












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              Group: pota Message: 73838 From: haristas Date: 11/12/2014
              Subject: Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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              It does look more accurate than the Sideshow Lawgiver, though it could be better, but it looks more like the size of the mini Lawgiver in Dr. Zaius' office in PLANET, so I welcome it, though I'm not sure what I'll do with it.  It may stay in its box for a long time.
               
              I already have it on pre-ordered too, at Entertainmentearth.com   It's $54.99 there, but they say it won't be out until April.  I think that gives everyone plenty of time to save their pennies.
               
               
               
               
               
               
               
               
              -----Original Message-----
              From: mmuse@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
              To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
              Sent: Wed, Nov 12, 2014 10:19 am
              Subject: Re: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

               
              A whole lot of things in this country are not priced based on the cost of manufacture, but what they think people are willing to pay for it.  Marketing is marketing, just part of the process.  I think it looks great, and I'm willing to pay $60 for it and I have it pre-ordered.  I think it's better to ignore "limited edition", numbered items, etc. and just think am I willing to pay that price for that item.  If you are, great, if not, don't buy it.  It's just incredible to me that companies are still making collectibles for our favorite movie 46 YEARS after it's release.  I couldn't be happier about it. 


              ---In pota@yahoogroups.com, <mlccougar@...> wrote :

              I plan on buying it, despite its odd eyes., but that could easily change... I totally agree with Dario about the price being unfair though, it doesn't take any more to make one of those compared to the regular 7" figures: In fact I'd guess it could be easier since there's no joints that have to move, etc...  The biggest reason I want this Lawgiver is because it's probably the closest they'll come to making a Lawgiver statue close to Mego scale... With my luck, I'll buy this statue and then they'll come along with one scaled for the 8" figures NECA's planning... But if they do that, since it'd be geared toward an 8" scale, they'd probably charge over $100.00 based on the pricing for the 7" scale statue...

              One thing though, I don't like that it's "limited edition" because sometimes it seems like they do that type of thing to try to get people to go on buying frenzies to "one up" someone else... By that I mean say person A is a real egotist and person B enjoys something as much (if not more) than person A but they don't have "everything" made... Then in some cases person A would be saying "I like franchise X more than you do because I have "everything" made on it."...






              In a message dated 11/12/2014 6:38:29 AM Central Standard Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:

              I have a Sideshow Lawgiver, but I'm still going to get this.  It's expensive because it's going to be limited.
               




              -----Original Message-----
              From: Dario dario.sciola@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
              To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
              Sent: Tue, Nov 11, 2014 5:47 pm
              Subject: Re: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

              He looks Expensive. $80 ouch!


              And yes he does look a tad cross-eyed.


              Why do lawgivers always have to be way more expensive. The size consideration explains a slight surcharge, but this is four times the price of the other NECA figures.
              As much as I would like to have one, I'm going to have to pass.


              Dario

              Sent from my iPad

              On Nov 11, 2014, at 9:34 AM, "Harist as@... [pota]" <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:




              Is it just me, or does the Lawgiver look a little cross-eyed?












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              Group: pota Message: 73839 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/12/2014
              Subject: Ellie's secret journal - what's in it?!
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                The official "Dawn" twitter has tweeted a page from Ellie's journal. Did she have a secret affair with Caesar? Doesn't say.
               
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              Group: pota Message: 73840 From: Zachary Scott Date: 11/12/2014
              Subject: Re: R.I.P. David Watson?
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              Well, I'd like to send my condolences to the family.  I thought he was a decent actor...I don't believe I'd seen him in anything else other than BENEATH.  But he did a fine job playing Cornelius.
               
              Zach
               
               
              -----Original Message-----
              From: Alex Ruiz pota1968@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>
              To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>
              Sent: Wed, Nov 12, 2014 6:38 am
              Subject: Re: [pota] R.I.P. David Watson?

               
              74 years old which sounds right. David was born in 1940

              Al







              At Nov 12, 2014, 6:59:06 AM, mlccougar@... [pota]pota@yahoogroups.com'> wrote:





















              Did they say how old he was when he died?





              In a message dated 11/12/2014 5:57:45 AM Central Standard Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:



              Some guy replied to the tweet and said David Watson died over a month ago. Like yeah, thanks for sharing A MONTH LATER! Moron :)

















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              Group: pota Message: 73841 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 11/12/2014
              Subject: Re: R.I.P. David Watson?
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              As a kid I thought he was Roddy McDowall. That's how good he was. RIP

              Al







              At Nov 12, 2014, 5:58:32 PM, Zachary Scott Zasco1957@... [pota]<'pota@yahoogroups.com'> wrote:











              Well, I'd like to send my condolences to the family. I thought he was a decent actor...I don't believe I'd seen him in anything else other than BENEATH. But he did a fine job playing Cornelius.




              Zach






              -----Original Message-----

              From: Alex Ruiz pota1968@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com>

              To: pota <pota@yahoogroups.com>

              Sent: Wed, Nov 12, 2014 6:38 am

              Subject: Re: [pota] R.I.P. David Watson?







































              74 years old which sounds right. David was born in 1940




              Al


















              At Nov 12, 2014, 6:59:06 AM, mlccougar@... [pota]pota@yahoogroups.com'> wrote:














































              Did they say how old he was when he died?











              In a message dated 11/12/2014 5:57:45 AM Central Standard Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:








              Some guy replied to the tweet and said David Watson died over a month ago. Like yeah, thanks for sharing A MONTH LATER! Moron
              :)


















































































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              Group: pota Message: 73842 From: Dario Date: 11/12/2014
              Subject: Re: R.I.P. David Watson?
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              Same here but over the years I can now see a big difference between Roddy's and David's performances. I think Beneath was really his biggest break as he never did more than small parts in movies and TV shows.

              Dario


              On Nov 12, 2014, at 6:20 PM, "Alex Ruiz pota1968@... [pota]" <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

               

              As a kid I thought he was Roddy McDowall. That's how good he was. RIP

              Al







              At Nov 12, 2014, 5:58:32 PM, Zachary Scott Zasco1957@... [pota]pota@yahoogroups.com'> wrote:











              Well, I'd like to send my condolences to the family. I thought he was a decent actor...I don't believe I'd seen him in anything else other than BENEATH. But he did a fine job playing Cornelius.




              Zach






              -----Original Message-----

              From: Alex Ruiz pota1968@... [pota] pota@yahoogroups.com>

              To: pota pota@yahoogroups.com>

              Sent: Wed, Nov 12, 2014 6:38 am

              Subject: Re: [pota] R.I.P. David Watson?







































              74 years old which sounds right. David was born in 1940




              Al


















              At Nov 12, 2014, 6:59:06 AM, mlccougar@... [pota]pota@yahoogroups.com'> wrote:














































              Did they say how old he was when he died?











              In a message dated 11/12/2014 5:57:45 AM Central Standard Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:








              Some guy replied to the tweet and said David Watson died over a month ago. Like yeah, thanks for sharing A MONTH LATER! Moron
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              Group: pota Message: 73843 From: James Date: 11/13/2014
              Subject: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"
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              "planet of the apes"

              Daily update November 11, 2014

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              Video: The Planet of the Apes Performance That Could Get Andy Serkis an Oscar

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              David Watson, Who Played Cornelius in 'Beneath the Planet of the Apes,' Dies at 74

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              Andy Serkis Hints At Next Planet Of The Apes

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              Group: pota Message: 73844 From: mlccougar Date: 11/13/2014
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              .html.htmlWell, after reading the description, and seeing it says the height of it (if I unbox it, it should look good with Megos), I think I will save my pennies after all...




              In a message dated 11/12/2014 11:38:37 AM Central Standard Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:

              It does look more accurate than the Sideshow Lawgiver, though it could be better, but it looks more like the size of the mini Lawgiver in Dr. Zaius' office in PLANET, so I welcome it, though I'm not sure what I'll do with it.  It may stay in its box for a long time.
               
              I already have it on pre-ordered too, at Entertainmentearth.com   It's $54.99 there, but they say it won't be out until April.  I think that gives everyone plenty of time to save their pennies.
               
              http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NC30077#.VGN9M40o7IU
               


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              Group: pota Message: 73845 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/13/2014
              Subject: David Watson 1940 - 2014
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                Even though he died Oct. 5th, the Hollywood Reporter just heard about his death too. And put his POTA role in the headline.
               
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              Group: pota Message: 73846 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/13/2014
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                I've got the Medicom Lawgiver, which is a little over 7" for the 6" figures.
                It sez the NECA Lawgiver is almost 12". My NECA Zaius is about 7".
                But size doesn't matter, does it? I hope not!
               

              Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:11 AM
              Subject: Re: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

               

              Well, after reading the description, and seeing it says the height of it (if I unbox it, it should look good with Megos), I think I will save my pennies after all...




              In a message dated 11/12/2014 11:38:37 AM Central Standard Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:

              It does look more accurate than the Sideshow Lawgiver, though it could be better, but it looks more like the size of the mini Lawgiver in Dr. Zaius' office in PLANET, so I welcome it, though I'm not sure what I'll do with it.  It may stay in its box for a long time.
               
              I already have it on pre-ordered too, at Entertainmentearth.com   It's $54.99 there, but they say it won't be out until April.  I think that gives everyone plenty of time to save their pennies.
               
              http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NC30077#.VGN9M40o7IU
               


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              Group: pota Message: 73847 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/13/2014
              Subject: The World of DAWN
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                Here's another clip from the forthcoming "Dawn" blu-ray extras:
               
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              Group: pota Message: 73848 From: Dario Sciola Date: 11/13/2014
              Subject: Re: Our Lawgiver
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              I've got the Medicom one but it also included a mini (1 inch?) Lawgiver in the package. I also have the Kubric set with the Lawgiver. And that's what, 2.5 inches?

              So I have 3 Lawgivers, and they are all small.

              I'm with Jeff. Size does not matter. I hope.

              Dario

              On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:36 AM, 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

              I've got the Medicom Lawgiver, which is a little over 7" for the 6" figures.
              It sez the NECA Lawgiver is almost 12". My NECA Zaius is about 7".
              But size doesn't matter, does it? I hope not!

              Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:11 AM
              Subject: Re: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

              Well, after reading the description, and seeing it says the height of it (if I unbox it, it should look good with Megos), I think I will save my pennies after all...




              In a message dated 11/12/2014 11:38:37 AM Central Standard Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:

              It does look more accurate than the Sideshow Lawgiver, though it could be better, but it looks more like the size of the mini Lawgiver in Dr. Zaius' office in PLANET, so I welcome it, though I'm not sure what I'll do with it. It may stay in its box for a long time.

              I already have it on pre-ordered too, at Entertainmentearth.com It's $54.99 there, but they say it won't be out until April. I think that gives everyone plenty of time to save their pennies.

              http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NC30077#.VGN9M40o7IU




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              Group: pota Message: 73849 From: mlccougar Date: 11/13/2014
              Subject: Re: Our Lawgiver
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              .html.htmlYeah, I have the Medicom Lawgiver too: It's sculpt is good enough, but as the review below says, the color is kind of "off" (but I don't find it ugly)... It is too small by the Megos, that's why I think I am gonna buy the NECA statue when it comes out... Trouble with that though: I was planning on *not* opening the NECA's so if I open The Lawgiver, I'll have to be careful with the packaging I guess...

              PS: As far as my not opening the NECAs, I am not doing that because I think they'll be worth money some day, I just have no need to open them, they look good enough displayed boxed up (in my opinion anyway)...





              In a message dated 11/13/2014 9:37:15 AM Central Standard Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:


              I've got the Medicom Lawgiver, which is a little over 7" for the 6" figures.
                http://www.mwctoys.com/REVIEW_041601.htm
              It sez the NECA Lawgiver is almost 12". My NECA Zaius is about 7".
                But size doesn't matter, does it? I hope not!
               


              From: mlccougar@... [pota]
              Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:11 AM
              To: pota@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: Re: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"




              Well, after reading the description, and seeing it says the height of it (if I unbox it, it should look good with Megos), I think I will save my pennies after all...




              In a message dated 11/12/2014 11:38:37 AM Central Standard Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:

              It does look more accurate than the Sideshow Lawgiver, though it could be better, but it looks more like the size of the mini Lawgiver in Dr. Zaius' office in PLANET, so I welcome it, though I'm not sure what I'll do with it.  It may stay in its box for a long time.

              I already have it on pre-ordered too, at Entertainmentearth.com   It's $54.99 there, but they say it won't be out until April.  I think that gives everyone plenty of time to save their pennies.

              http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NC30077#.VGN9M40o7IU




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              Group: pota Message: 73850 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/13/2014
              Subject: Re: Our Lawgiver
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                 Sounds like you want the Lawgiver for the Megos, so I'd open it. But I open them anyway, and store them in plastic bags. More fun to display, easier to store. For the NECAs I've been cutting a slit in the top of the plastic (not the front) and sliding them out. The packaging is not mint but you can put them back in and it's hard to tell it's been opened.

              Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:05 AM
              Subject: Re: [pota] Re: Our Lawgiver

               

              Yeah, I have the Medicom Lawgiver too: It's sculpt is good enough, but as the review below says, the color is kind of "off" (but I don't find it ugly)... It is too small by the Megos, that's why I think I am gonna buy the NECA statue when it comes out... Trouble with that though: I was planning on *not* opening the NECA's so if I open The Lawgiver, I'll have to be careful with the packaging I guess...

              PS: As far as my not opening the NECAs, I am not doing that because I think they'll be worth money some day, I just have no need to open them, they look good enough displayed boxed up (in my opinion anyway)...





              In a message dated 11/13/2014 9:37:15 AM Central Standard Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:


              I've got the Medicom Lawgiver, which is a little over 7" for the 6" figures.
                http://www.mwctoys.com/REVIEW_041601.htm
              It sez the NECA Lawgiver is almost 12". My NECA Zaius is about 7".
                But size doesn't matter, does it? I hope not!
               


              From: mlccougar@... [pota]
              Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:11 AM
              To: pota@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: Re: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"




              Well, after reading the description, and seeing it says the height of it (if I unbox it, it should look good with Megos), I think I will save my pennies after all...




              In a message dated 11/12/2014 11:38:37 AM Central Standard Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:

              It does look more accurate than the Sideshow Lawgiver, though it could be better, but it looks more like the size of the mini Lawgiver in Dr. Zaius' office in PLANET, so I welcome it, though I'm not sure what I'll do with it.  It may stay in its box for a long time.

              I already have it on pre-ordered too, at Entertainmentearth.com   It's $54.99 there, but they say it won't be out until April.  I think that gives everyone plenty of time to save their pennies.

              http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NC30077#.VGN9M40o7IU




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              Group: pota Message: 73851 From: Jeff K. Date: 11/13/2014
              Subject: DAWN: the skyscraper scene
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                More coolness from the upcoming blu-ray.
               
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              Group: pota Message: 73852 From: Tim Date: 11/13/2014
              Subject: Re: Our Lawgiver
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              The best is the Sideshow Lawgiver. It is , what, 18"? 



              On Nov 13, 2014, at 11:15 AM, Dario Sciola dario.sciola@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

               

              I've got the Medicom one but it also included a mini (1 inch?) Lawgiver in the package. I also have the Kubric set with the Lawgiver. And that's what, 2.5 inches?

              So I have 3 Lawgivers, and they are all small.

              I'm with Jeff. Size does not matter. I hope.

              Dario

              On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:36 AM, 'Jeff K.' veetus@... [pota] <pota@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
               

                I've got the Medicom Lawgiver, which is a little over 7" for the 6" figures.
                It sez the NECA Lawgiver is almost 12". My NECA Zaius is about 7".
                But size doesn't matter, does it? I hope not!
               

              Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 4:11 AM
              Subject: Re: [pota] Re: FW: Google Alert - "planet of the apes"

               

              Well, after reading the description, and seeing it says the height of it (if I unbox it, it should look good with Megos), I think I will save my pennies after all...




              In a message dated 11/12/2014 11:38:37 AM Central Standard Time, pota@yahoogroups.com writes:

              It does look more accurate than the Sideshow Lawgiver, though it could be better, but it looks more like the size of the mini Lawgiver in Dr. Zaius' office in PLANET, so I welcome it, though I'm not sure what I'll do with it.  It may stay in its box for a long time.
               
              I already have it on pre-ordered too, at Entertainmentearth.com   It's $54.99 there, but they say it won't be out until April.  I think that gives everyone plenty of time to save their pennies.
               
              http://www.entertainmentearth.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NC30077#.VGN9M40o7IU
               



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              Group: pota Message: 73853 From: totellthetruth42 Date: 11/13/2014
              Subject: Re: R.I.P. David Watson?
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