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Group: potadg Message: 18919 From: Neil Date: 7/4/2004
Subject: Re: Jones...
Group: potadg Message: 18920 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 7/4/2004
Subject: Re: DVD Commentaries (OT)
Group: potadg Message: 18921 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/4/2004
Subject: Re: DVD Commentaries (OT)
Group: potadg Message: 18922 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 7/4/2004
Subject: Re: DVD Commentaries (OT)
Group: potadg Message: 18923 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 7/4/2004
Subject: Re: Jones...
Group: potadg Message: 18924 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: Scripts (somewhat OT)
Group: potadg Message: 18925 From: pazuzu3 Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Preliminary mock up for 12 inch box for Chris's figures
Group: potadg Message: 18926 From: hotscheetz Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: Jones...
Group: potadg Message: 18927 From: hotscheetz Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: Preliminary mock up for 12 inch box for Chris's figures
Group: potadg Message: 18928 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: Preliminary mock up for 12 inch box for Chris's figu res
Group: potadg Message: 18929 From: ape_mom Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: The Ruins of Humanity...
Group: potadg Message: 18930 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: G'Day!
Group: potadg Message: 18931 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: Preliminary mock up for 12 inch box for Chris's figures
Group: potadg Message: 18932 From: apefish54 Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: medicom action figures that could have been...
Group: potadg Message: 18933 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: 1,2,5,4,3
Group: potadg Message: 18934 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: 2, 1, 3, 4, 5, TV, TVA...Oh yeah, 2001
Group: potadg Message: 18935 From: Mithril1960@aol.com Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1028
Group: potadg Message: 18936 From: ape_mom Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: 2, 1, 3, 4, 5, TV, TVA...Oh yeah, 2001
Group: potadg Message: 18937 From: ape_mom Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1028
Group: potadg Message: 18938 From: James Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1028
Group: potadg Message: 18939 From: Neil Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1028
Group: potadg Message: 18940 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: USA OK
Group: potadg Message: 18941 From: James Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1028
Group: potadg Message: 18942 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: 2, 1, 3, 4, 5, TV, TVA...Oh yeah, 2001
Group: potadg Message: 18943 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: NASA/ANSA
Group: potadg Message: 18944 From: Neil Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: NASA/ANSA
Group: potadg Message: 18946 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: NASA/ANSA
Group: potadg Message: 18947 From: Neil Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: NASA/ANSA
Group: potadg Message: 18948 From: hotscheetz Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: NASA/ANSA
Group: potadg Message: 18949 From: Neil Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1028
Group: potadg Message: 18950 From: hotscheetz Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: NASA/ANSA
Group: potadg Message: 18951 From: Menluth Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: 2, 1, 3, 4, 5, TV, TVA...Oh yeah, 2001
Group: potadg Message: 18952 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: NASA/ANSA
Group: potadg Message: 18953 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: 2, 1, 3, 4, 5, TV, TVA...Oh yeah, 2001
Group: potadg Message: 18954 From: James Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: NASA/ANSA
Group: potadg Message: 18955 From: ape_mom Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Polls...
Group: potadg Message: 18956 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: Polls...
Group: potadg Message: 18957 From: ape_mom Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: NASA/ANSA
Group: potadg Message: 18958 From: hotscheetz Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: NASA/ANSA
Group: potadg Message: 18959 From: Menluth Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: Polls...
Group: potadg Message: 18960 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: Polls...
Group: potadg Message: 18961 From: Will Hoover Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: Art Imitates Art Imitates Art
Group: potadg Message: 18962 From: Damian Martin Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: Virdon Go Home?
Group: potadg Message: 18963 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: Virdon Go Home?
Group: potadg Message: 18964 From: apefish54 Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: glyphs
Group: potadg Message: 18965 From: James Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: Virdon Go Home?
Group: potadg Message: 18966 From: Damian Martin Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: Virdon Go Home?
Group: potadg Message: 18967 From: Damian Martin Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: Virdon Go Home?
Group: potadg Message: 18968 From: James Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: Virdon Go Home?
Group: potadg Message: 18969 From: hotscheetz Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: Virdon Go Home?
Group: potadg Message: 18970 From: James Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: Virdon Go Home?
Group: potadg Message: 18971 From: Mithril1960@aol.com Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1030
Group: potadg Message: 18972 From: Mithril1960@aol.com Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1030
Group: potadg Message: 18973 From: Neil Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: NASA/ANSA
Group: potadg Message: 18975 From: hotscheetz Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: Virdon Go Home?
Group: potadg Message: 18976 From: hotscheetz Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1030
Group: potadg Message: 18977 From: hotscheetz Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: NASA/ANSA
Group: potadg Message: 18979 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Flynn's Article
Group: potadg Message: 18980 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: Russo
Group: potadg Message: 18981 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Comic Book Marketplace # 68 (May 1999)
Group: potadg Message: 18982 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Got a few hundred going spare?
Group: potadg Message: 18983 From: James Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Fan Fiction
Group: potadg Message: 18984 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: Comic Book Marketplace # 68 (May 1999)
Group: potadg Message: 18985 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Goldsmith commentary on the POTA DVD
Group: potadg Message: 18986 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Medicom action figures that could have been...
Group: potadg Message: 18987 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: NASA/ANSA
Group: potadg Message: 18988 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Medicom Rarity on eBay - anyone got this one? ;)
Group: potadg Message: 18989 From: Menluth Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: Medicom Rarity on eBay - Ape Guevarra
Group: potadg Message: 18990 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Medicom Rarity on eBay - Ape Guevarra
Group: potadg Message: 18991 From: Menluth Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: Medicom Rarity on eBay - Ape Guevarra
Group: potadg Message: 18992 From: hotscheetz Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: NASA/ANSA
Group: potadg Message: 18993 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Global Warming
Group: potadg Message: 18994 From: pazuzu3 Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: CBS 1974 season preview stuff
Group: potadg Message: 18995 From: Will Hoover Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1030
Group: potadg Message: 18996 From: James Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: CBS 1974 season preview stuff
Group: potadg Message: 18997 From: hotscheetz Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: Global Warming
Group: potadg Message: 18998 From: Will Hoover Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: Sideshow Collectibles Lawgiver
Group: potadg Message: 18999 From: libraryape Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: I need "Beware of the beast man."
Group: potadg Message: 19000 From: Vinny Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: i think this is cool
Group: potadg Message: 19001 From: ron kenner Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: CBS 1974 season preview stuff
Group: potadg Message: 19002 From: Vinny Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: CBS 1974 season preview stuff
Group: potadg Message: 19003 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: I need "Beware of the beast man."
Group: potadg Message: 19004 From: neptunewanter Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1030
Group: potadg Message: 19005 From: libraryape Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: I need "Beware of the beast man."
Group: potadg Message: 19006 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: CBS 1974 season preview stuff
Group: potadg Message: 19007 From: pazuzu3 Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: CBS 1974 season preview stuff
Group: potadg Message: 19008 From: pazuzu3 Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: CBS 1974 season preview stuff
Group: potadg Message: 19009 From: ape_mom Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: Got a few hundred going spare?
Group: potadg Message: 19010 From: Menluth Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1030
Group: potadg Message: 19011 From: Menluth Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: Sideshow Collectibles Lawgiver
Group: potadg Message: 19012 From: ron kenner Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: i think this is cool
Group: potadg Message: 19013 From: ron kenner Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: I need "Beware of the beast man."
Group: potadg Message: 19014 From: Menluth Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: I need "Beware the beast man."
Group: potadg Message: 19015 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: I need "Beware the Beast"
Group: potadg Message: 19016 From: Menluth Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Sacred Scrolls
Group: potadg Message: 19017 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: Sacred Scrolls
Group: potadg Message: 19018 From: James Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: I need "Beware the Beast"
Group: potadg Message: 19019 From: ron kenner Date: 7/8/2004
Subject: Re: I need "Beware the beast man."
Group: potadg Message: 19020 From: ape_mom Date: 7/8/2004
Subject: Mithril's FanFic
Group: potadg Message: 19021 From: James Date: 7/8/2004
Subject: Re: Mithril's FanFic



Group: potadg Message: 18919 From: Neil Date: 7/4/2004
Subject: Re: Jones...
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> BTW Any speculation on what ANSA stood for?

Another Non Surviving Astronaut?

Astronauts Not Supposed to Arrive?

Another Nasty Spaceship Arrival?

Annoyingly Numerous Spaceship Accidents?

Sorry, I'll get me coat! ;-)

Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 18920 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 7/4/2004
Subject: Re: DVD Commentaries (OT)
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Ah yes, "Land of the Lost". Burton said that was the inspiration for POTA2001 (in his commentary). Of course, Ron Harper starred in Season 2. - - - Jeff

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From: mlccougar@...
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 6:39 PM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] DVD Commentaries (OT)


In a message dated 7/4/2004 5:43:03 PM Central Standard Time,
veetus@... writes:

> I like it when they specifically comment on what's on screen.

Thats what I was saying too... Although, I believe you can get by with just
one person doing a full length commentary, as long as they're commenting on the
screen itself...

I just bought the Land Of The Lost Season one DVD set and it has commentary
on it, and a lot of the commentary is just one person commenting on one full
length episode, and it works...
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Group: potadg Message: 18921 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/4/2004
Subject: Re: DVD Commentaries (OT)
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In a message dated 7/4/2004 9:35:33 PM Central Standard Time,
veetus@... writes:

> Ah yes, "Land of the Lost". Burton said that was the inspiration for
> POTA2001 (in his commentary). Of course, Ron Harper starred in Season 2.

Actually, he was in season 3 as "Uncle Jack"... Anyway, not having seen any
of pota2001, other than a few stills, and what I read on the old group, you
have me wondering, what did he say was inspired by LOTL on pota'01?


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Group: potadg Message: 18922 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 7/4/2004
Subject: Re: DVD Commentaries (OT)
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I think Burton's comment is toward the end of the movie. He just says it
in a general sense, "This movie was inspired by my "Land of the Lost" youth"
or something. He just gets a big kick out of wallowing in cheesiness. I just
thought that was an odd comment because some people have complained that the
movie was more like the TV show than the original movies. Yet Burton managed
to pull a different Ron Harper show out of his hat.
By the way, Ron Harper was complaining about the scripts for the POTA show
and told me he felt "Land of the Lost" was well written, and more what the
POTA writers should've shot for. So I guess Burton gave Ron what he wanted,
tiger. - - - Jeff

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From: <mlccougar@...>
To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] DVD Commentaries (OT)


> In a message dated 7/4/2004 9:35:33 PM Central Standard Time,
> veetus@... writes:
>
> > Ah yes, "Land of the Lost". Burton said that was the inspiration for
> > POTA2001 (in his commentary). Of course, Ron Harper starred in Season 2.
>
> Actually, he was in season 3 as "Uncle Jack"... Anyway, not having seen
any
> of pota2001, other than a few stills, and what I read on the old group,
you
> have me wondering, what did he say was inspired by LOTL on pota'01?
>
>
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>
>
>
>
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Group: potadg Message: 18923 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 7/4/2004
Subject: Re: Jones...
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Gee...I thought it meant Ape Nation Space Agency.


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Group: potadg Message: 18924 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: Scripts (somewhat OT)
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In a message dated 7/4/2004 11:25:32 PM Central Standard Time,
veetus@... writes:

> By the way, Ron Harper was complaining about the scripts for the POTA show
> and told me he felt "Land of the Lost" was well written, and more what the
> POTA writers should've shot for.

By the time Harper was on "LOTL," David Gerrold wasn't involved that I know
of, but when watching his interview on the boxed set, he (Gerrold) said how as
the first season's story editor, he carefully laid out plans for the show...
He took made sure that there was going to be a sense of continuity, and that
things would make sense from week to week... He also mentioned how he broke the
show down, by that I mean he took the central figures and gave them each there
"own" episode, he knew Dinosaurs were part of the show so there were 3
episodes where they were heavily involved in the storyline, 3 Sleestak episodes,
etc., etc.
That's probably what the PLANET OF THE APES tv series needed, someone like
Gerrold to oversee the scripts and make sure there was a sense of continuity,
and to break the episodes up more so there wasn't so much repetition.
Personally I don't think the APES tv series is quite as repetitious as some might say
it is, but it's true that there should have been more variety in the type of
stories it told. That's probably why it could have done better with someone like
David at the helm... Someone who knows Sci-fi, and knew how to be a story
editor. Plus, he had connections and he got some of the better writers of the day
to script "LOTL"...


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Group: potadg Message: 18925 From: pazuzu3 Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Preliminary mock up for 12 inch box for Chris's figures
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Here's what I have been working on. Keeping the cliff side art from
the original POTA box and stretching it a bit (and painting out all
the text and transforming the title back to unstretched proportions).

I tell you I felt kinda funny taking a picture of the statue of
Liberty and retouching it to the condition it was in POTA burried in
the sand on the 4'th of July.

The box has built in "seams" or natural breaks in the art so I can
join 2 pieces together to compensate for the fact I can't print
taller them 10.5 inches (the box will be 13 inches tall). this is a
more sophisiticated version of what I do anyway in making boxes so it
should work out okay

On the cliff art front and side the break between the top of the
rocks and the sky. On the Statue of Liberty side panel the break is
between the sand and liberty. On the back it's the seperation between
the blue apes title and the rest of the back

http://www.megostore.com/mc/images/usergallery/980112654568.jpg
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Group: potadg Message: 18926 From: hotscheetz Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: Jones...
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Arthur's Nepotistic Simian Adventures...

G

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> BTW Any speculation on what ANSA stood for? We've already had a few
> ideas thrown around here in the past.
>
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "the_ansanaut" <ansanaut@g...>
> wrote:
> > > It has been interesting, to me, to document the various
astronaut
> > > deaths in the series.
> >
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Group: potadg Message: 18927 From: hotscheetz Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: Preliminary mock up for 12 inch box for Chris's figures
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I believe you spelled Virdon's name wrong...Oops on you...=)

G

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "pazuzu3" <mego73@h...> wrote:
> Here's what I have been working on. Keeping the cliff side art from
> the original POTA box and stretching it a bit (and painting out all
> the text and transforming the title back to unstretched
proportions).
>
> I tell you I felt kinda funny taking a picture of the statue of
> Liberty and retouching it to the condition it was in POTA burried
in
> the sand on the 4'th of July.
>
> The box has built in "seams" or natural breaks in the art so I can
> join 2 pieces together to compensate for the fact I can't print
> taller them 10.5 inches (the box will be 13 inches tall). this is a
> more sophisiticated version of what I do anyway in making boxes so
it
> should work out okay
>
> On the cliff art front and side the break between the top of the
> rocks and the sky. On the Statue of Liberty side panel the break is
> between the sand and liberty. On the back it's the seperation
between
> the blue apes title and the rest of the back
>
> http://www.megostore.com/mc/images/usergallery/980112654568.jpg
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Group: potadg Message: 18928 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: Preliminary mock up for 12 inch box for Chris's figu res
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Looks great!

-----Original Message-----
From: pazuzu3 [mego73@...]
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 3:21 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Preliminary mock up for 12 inch box for Chris's
figures


Here's what I have been working on. Keeping the cliff side art from
the original POTA box and stretching it a bit (and painting out all
the text and transforming the title back to unstretched proportions).

I tell you I felt kinda funny taking a picture of the statue of
Liberty and retouching it to the condition it was in POTA burried in
the sand on the 4'th of July.

The box has built in "seams" or natural breaks in the art so I can
join 2 pieces together to compensate for the fact I can't print
taller them 10.5 inches (the box will be 13 inches tall). this is a
more sophisiticated version of what I do anyway in making boxes so it
should work out okay

On the cliff art front and side the break between the top of the
rocks and the sky. On the Statue of Liberty side panel the break is
between the sand and liberty. On the back it's the seperation between
the blue apes title and the rest of the back

http://www.megostore.com/mc/images/usergallery/980112654568.jpg




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Group: potadg Message: 18929 From: ape_mom Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: The Ruins of Humanity...
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Yeah, that's probably it. Or maybe even apes bred to resemble more
primitive apes. I know at Plimouth Plantation they "breed back" cows
to be more like the cows that came over on the Mayflower.



--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:
The only thing I could
> guess about that would be that it's supposed to show people what
apes were
> before they brought them into their homes as slaves. Like treating
zoo apes as a
> novelty item for people, like "Come to the zoo and see this non-
domesticated
> ape"...
>
>
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Group: potadg Message: 18930 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: G'Day!
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Remember Jeff, the chimp way of smiling is a cultural thing among chimps.
They like it whereas if one of us smiles directly at them, it is an insult. They
don't seem to need dating
services in the jungle but in captivity they do. Elaine


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Group: potadg Message: 18931 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: Preliminary mock up for 12 inch box for Chris's figures
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These mockups look very cool... Good job on them...


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Group: potadg Message: 18932 From: apefish54 Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: medicom action figures that could have been...
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here are some characters from various ape movies that i think would
have been cool if medicom had released them as action figures in
their "ultra detail" series. -kolp, mcdonald, virgil, mandemus, dr
maximus, julius, dr galen, honorious, landon, dodge, armando, lisa,
mutants(from both 'beneath' & 'battle'), presidant of the assembly,
cornelius(caeser's son)the hunt leader, child chimpanzee's
(from 'battle'), governor brenck.
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Group: potadg Message: 18933 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: 1,2,5,4,3
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My order is 1,5,4,3,2. I see the tv series, cartoon and pota 2001 as being
in separate universes. Elaine


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Group: potadg Message: 18934 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: 2, 1, 3, 4, 5, TV, TVA...Oh yeah, 2001
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My revised list.

pota 68
Battle
Conquest
Escape
Colonoscopy
Beneath(I think this movie is a joke.)

As stated previously, I feel the others are in a separate universe. It is
like mixing apples and
oranges. Elaine


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Group: potadg Message: 18935 From: Mithril1960@aol.com Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1028
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In a message dated 7/5/2004 1:11:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com writes:

Australian National Space Academy


All-Earth National Space Agency




"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in
your philosophy."

- Hamlet


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Group: potadg Message: 18936 From: ape_mom Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: 2, 1, 3, 4, 5, TV, TVA...Oh yeah, 2001
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Cool, we agree on this! IMHO ;), Beneath was the least of the POTA
movies. (Not including 2001, which we don't agree on.) But my
second favorite was actually Escape. I thought it was very touching,
dramatic, and thought provoking.

As far as I can tell, all the others WERE in another universe --
ESPECIALLY Pota2001 -- although I find the TV series VERY enjoyable
and great family fodder. (I really don't know about the toons, as I
don't remember them.)


--Helen




--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> My revised list.
>
> pota 68
> Battle
> Conquest
> Escape
> Colonoscopy
> Beneath(I think this movie is a joke.)
>
> As stated previously, I feel the others are in a separate universe.
It is
> like mixing apples and
> oranges. Elaine
>
>
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Group: potadg Message: 18937 From: ape_mom Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1028
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Allied Nations Space Auxiliary
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Group: potadg Message: 18938 From: James Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1028
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Advanced Stellar Navigation Authority

Apes Speak Aloud Now

Aussie Nuts Simply Annoying

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Mithril1960@a... wrote:
>
>
> Australian National Space Academy
>
>
> All-Earth National Space Agency
>
>
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Group: potadg Message: 18939 From: Neil Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1028
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> Apes Speak Aloud Now

You really meant 'Apes Now Speak Aloud' didn't you James. You threw
this in as a test didn't you? What do I win? ;-)

Anyway I won't come up with another numbingly stupid answer but I
will just say that I believe one of the 'A's should stand for
America. I mean the space ships do have 'United States' written on
them and American flags on them as well don't they?

Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 18940 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: USA OK
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Yankee pig! ;)

Anonymous

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil [nfoster@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 9:09 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Digest Number 1028


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> Apes Speak Aloud Now

You really meant 'Apes Now Speak Aloud' didn't you James. You threw
this in as a test didn't you? What do I win? ;-)

Anyway I won't come up with another numbingly stupid answer but I
will just say that I believe one of the 'A's should stand for
America. I mean the space ships do have 'United States' written on
them and American flags on them as well don't they?

Neil


Group: potadg Message: 18941 From: James Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1028
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Yes they do. Taylor and the other astronauts do have the flag on
there shoulders. But the ANSA patch is where the mission patch
usually is.


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
>
> Anyway I won't come up with another numbingly stupid answer but I
> will just say that I believe one of the 'A's should stand for
> America. I mean the space ships do have 'United States' written on
> them and American flags on them as well don't they?
>
> Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 18942 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: 2, 1, 3, 4, 5, TV, TVA...Oh yeah, 2001
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> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> >My revised list.
>
> >Beneath(I think this movie is a joke.)

You're entitled to your opinion, but what is it about BENEATH that you don't
like? Anything in particular, or just the whole idea/concept of it? Or, you
just plain don't like it?


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Group: potadg Message: 18943 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: NASA/ANSA
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In a message dated 7/5/2004 5:39:49 PM Central Standard Time,
sand_hill_school@... writes:

> Allied Nations Space Auxiliary

This is probably one of the better plays on the name I read, but face it,
ANSA is just a play on the NASA name, that's it... The same way they made up the
term TX-9 as a piece of equipment in a backpack, they played on the NASA name
to create ANSA...

Maybe at the time of PLANET's filming they were denied permission because
NASA was trying to get real life space exploration going and didn't want it's
name threw into a movie, and by the time of ESCAPE, they were using NASA in the
APES movies because it was "ok" for them to do it... Maybe ANSA is something
they just made up to send Taylor and crew into space, and later on, Paul Dehn
(in his way of not fact checking from film to film) just used NASA in ESCAPE
rather than the original POTA space administration ANSA... Who knows for sure...
But face it, it stands for nothing other than what is being made up here...
(Unless William Creber, or Mort Abrahams, or one of the other survivors says
otherwise...)


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Group: potadg Message: 18944 From: Neil Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: NASA/ANSA
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , mlccougar@a... wrote:
>but face it, ANSA is just a play on the NASA name, that's it...

Or maybe it was just a typo and no one picked it up?

Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 18946 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: NASA/ANSA
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Here it is again:


> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:
> >but face it, ANSA is just a play on the NASA name, that's it...
>
> Or maybe it was just a typo and no one picked it up?
>
> Neil
>
> **** I doubt that... After all, it's on their patches... I really think
> that
> one of the costume designers/manufacturers would have seen that mistake...
> One patch getting made incorrectly, but not all of them... I will stick with
> my
> opinion that it was simply a play on the NASA name...


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Group: potadg Message: 18947 From: Neil Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: NASA/ANSA
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , mlccougar@a... wrote:
> **** I doubt that... After all, it's on their patches... I really
think that one of the costume designers/manufacturers would have seen
that mistake...
> One patch getting made incorrectly, but not all of them...

Unless all the patches were made up at the same time and when they
got handed to whoever gets them next the mistake was discovered and
they thought 'oh b*gger it, we'll just have to use what we've got, we
haven't got the time to change something so small and trivial when we
have to spend all or time and effort making sure the make-ups look
okay, besides it'll give the fans something to think about in the
future!' ;-)

I mean it wouldn't be the only 'mistake' that made it on screen in
the 'Apes' movies would it?

Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 18948 From: hotscheetz Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: NASA/ANSA
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Wouldn't that be a "sew-o", since they made patches?...

G

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:
> >but face it, ANSA is just a play on the NASA name, that's it...
>
> Or maybe it was just a typo and no one picked it up?
>
> Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 18949 From: Neil Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1028
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How about:

Aeronautics and National Space Administration?

Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 18950 From: hotscheetz Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: NASA/ANSA
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Maybe it means "Anagram of National Space Agency"...

Honestly, with all that goes into setting-up for making even the
simplest patch, someone making that big of a mistake is probably in
the tens of thousands to one...

G

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:
> > **** I doubt that... After all, it's on their patches... I
really
> think that one of the costume designers/manufacturers would have
seen
> that mistake...
> > One patch getting made incorrectly, but not all of them...
>
> Unless all the patches were made up at the same time and when they
> got handed to whoever gets them next the mistake was discovered and
> they thought 'oh b*gger it, we'll just have to use what we've got,
we
> haven't got the time to change something so small and trivial when
we
> have to spend all or time and effort making sure the make-ups look
> okay, besides it'll give the fans something to think about in the
> future!' ;-)
>
> I mean it wouldn't be the only 'mistake' that made it on screen in
> the 'Apes' movies would it?
>
> Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 18951 From: Menluth Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: 2, 1, 3, 4, 5, TV, TVA...Oh yeah, 2001
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , taebokitti@a... wrote:
> My revised list.
> pota 68
> Battle
> Conquest
> Escape
> Colonoscopy
> Beneath(I think this movie is a joke.)

> Elaine

Ho Elaine! Another serious Battle fan! This much-maligned film has a
few devotees, so it's nice to find another. Too bad we can't agree
on Beneath, though. Can't have it all!
Menluth.
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Group: potadg Message: 18952 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: NASA/ANSA
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Oh, he's just being British!

-----Original Message-----
From: hotscheetz [HotScheetz@...]
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 10:14 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: NASA/ANSA


Maybe it means "Anagram of National Space Agency"...

Honestly, with all that goes into setting-up for making even the
simplest patch, someone making that big of a mistake is probably in
the tens of thousands to one...

G


Group: potadg Message: 18953 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: 2, 1, 3, 4, 5, TV, TVA...Oh yeah, 2001
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I actually like the Ursus character which is the one redeemable part of the
movie. I just didn't
like the story direction after Planet. I thought the plot of the bomb and
mutants was Hollywood's desperate attempt to come up with a sequel to the
original. Since Mr Heston didn't want to do another movie, I just would have placed
another actor in the role and continued the story with Taylor. Elaine


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Group: potadg Message: 18954 From: James Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: NASA/ANSA
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The explaination may even be simpler. NASA is just mentioned in
Escape. No one can prevent the name of a government agency being
used in a script. However, in Planet & Beneath use of the NASA logo
would have been required. That's a registered trademark that can't
be used without permission.
Now the question is since a the TV series 'I Dream of Jeannie' and
the movie 'Marooned' (with James Fransicus) both used the NASA logo
during the same period, did the POTA producers ask for permission or
were they turned down.


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:
>
> This is probably one of the better plays on the name I read, but
face it,
> ANSA is just a play on the NASA name, that's it... The same way
they made up the
> term TX-9 as a piece of equipment in a backpack, they played on
the NASA name
> to create ANSA...
>
> Maybe at the time of PLANET's filming they were denied permission
because
> NASA was trying to get real life space exploration going and
didn't want it's
> name threw into a movie, and by the time of ESCAPE, they were
using NASA in the
> APES movies because it was "ok" for them to do it... Maybe ANSA is
something
> they just made up to send Taylor and crew into space, and later
on, Paul Dehn
> (in his way of not fact checking from film to film) just used NASA
in ESCAPE
> rather than the original POTA space administration ANSA... Who
knows for sure...
> But face it, it stands for nothing other than what is being made
up here...
> (Unless William Creber, or Mort Abrahams, or one of the other
survivors says
> otherwise...)
>
>
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Group: potadg Message: 18955 From: ape_mom Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Polls...
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Elaine,

I am convinced that you are psychoanalyzing us. Please, tell us what
it all means. (I'm doing a dramatic reading, by the way.)

--Helen
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Group: potadg Message: 18956 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: Polls...
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At the end of the poll I will give an explanation. I am not trying to
psychoanalyze anyone, I think. Elaine


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Group: potadg Message: 18957 From: ape_mom Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: NASA/ANSA
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , mlccougar@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 7/5/2004 5:39:49 PM Central Standard Time,
> sand_hill_school@y... writes:
>
> > Allied Nations Space Auxiliary
>
> This is probably one of the better plays on the name I read,

I am honored, Sir.
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Group: potadg Message: 18958 From: hotscheetz Date: 7/5/2004
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And that's hard for an Angelenan to do, let me tell you...

G

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> Oh, he's just being British!
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Group: potadg Message: 18959 From: Menluth Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: Polls...
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:

Speaking of polls... So far, 12.5% of respondents believe that the
governing body of the TV series' Central City was called "Fort
Wayne". Go cast your vote!
Menluth.
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Group: potadg Message: 18960 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/5/2004
Subject: Re: Polls...
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In a message dated 7/5/2004 10:20:24 PM Central Standard Time,
menluth@... writes:

> So far, 12.5% of respondents believe that the
> governing body of the TV series' Central City was called "Fort
> Wayne".

That's crazy... I voted, but for the High Council, which is their name....


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Group: potadg Message: 18961 From: Will Hoover Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: Art Imitates Art Imitates Art
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on 7/3/04 4:37 AM, Dave B at smugster@... wrote:

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Will Hoover <will5967@v...

> I couldn't agree more! I recently saw the newest Time Machine
movie and thought the Morlocks in the new film were awfully
simian.

And how about that cornfield round-up???

Dave


Rather than a cornfield, the round-up in The Time Machine '02 takes place in
what I believe is a bamboo grove, but I definitely know what you mean by the
comparison. It's a more or less identical plot device. The scene reminds
me more of the hunt scene in POTA '01 though. Oddly enough, I think the
hunt scene in The Time Machine '02 is better than the one in POTA '01. What
do you think?

Anyway, that's why it's difficult for me to pin down which scenes I like
best from the original five films. Planet alone has a host of really
striking and extremely memorable scenes. The hunt sequence is definitely
way up there in terms of most dramatic scenes in the original film series.
And you know what they say: "Often imitated, never equaled."


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Group: potadg Message: 18962 From: Damian Martin Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: Virdon Go Home?
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Sorry James,

If I may take the liberty to provide a link from ANSANAUT's own site.

http://www.goingfaster.com/icarus/virdontruth.html"

The picture (it is a way down and takes time to load) has the date clearly showing 2305.

Cheers,

Patrick

James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
In my opinion that point can be debated. The script (which is
available on Hunter's site) says the picture is the recognizable NYC
skyline and no date is mentioned.
In addition, the ruins of San Francisco in 'The Trap' are clearly
from the 20th Century not the 26th.
My interpetation is that the writers were unsure about the
backstory. Menluth mentioned the series bible. It would be great to
get a look at it to see what direction the writers were given.


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "the_ansanaut" <ansanaut@g...> wrote:
> In the TV series, Virdon and Burke find an old copy of the
Encylopedia
> Britannica that shows a picture of New York City in the year 2503,
or
> 523 years after they left Earth, so the apocalypse hadn't happened
at
> least until 2503 and probably later.


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Group: potadg Message: 18963 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: Virdon Go Home?
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In a message dated 7/6/2004 4:48:30 AM Central Standard Time,
sandman4552@... writes:

> The picture (it is a way down and takes time to load) has the date clearly
> showing 2305.
>

Actually, its the year 2503...


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Group: potadg Message: 18964 From: apefish54 Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: glyphs
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has anyone got some info on the glyphs worn on the ape uniforms?
obviously they were designed /created by someone for the uniforms in
the movies, (possibly morton haack?)-but iv'e wondered for ages as to
whether the glyphs actually mean anything? yes, there are different
ones on the various uniforms, but one can't help notice that some of
them are more prominent throughout the films & t.v. series!- for
example, the glyph worn on the chimps leather tunic is also on the
lawgiver's robe (third one down). these glyphs are "sacred scroll"
letters, i know ,-i'm just kinda interested to know if someone
can "translate" -apefish54
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Group: potadg Message: 18965 From: James Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: Virdon Go Home?
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I was refering to what was written in the shooting script. Take a
look at it on Hunter's site:
http://www.goatley.com/pota/scripts/pota_tv_escape_from_tomorrow.pdf
No date is referenced. And that picture is drawing not a photograph.
It looks like something improvised at the last minute.
Additionally, it is contradicted in "The Trap". The ruins of the
subway station are from the 20th Century. Or how else would Burke be
able to explain the products advertised to Urko.


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Damian Martin <sandman4552@y...>
wrote:
> Sorry James,
>
> If I may take the liberty to provide a link from ANSANAUT's own
site.
>
> http://www.goingfaster.com/icarus/virdontruth.html"
>
> The picture (it is a way down and takes time to load) has the date
clearly showing 2305.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Patrick
>
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Group: potadg Message: 18966 From: Damian Martin Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: Virdon Go Home?
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You are correct good sir - an unfortunate typo.

mlccougar@... wrote:In a message dated 7/6/2004 4:48:30 AM Central Standard Time,
sandman4552@... writes:

> The picture (it is a way down and takes time to load) has the date clearly
> showing 2305.
>

Actually, its the year 2503...


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Group: potadg Message: 18967 From: Damian Martin Date: 7/6/2004
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James,

I was aware that you were using the script to support your point of view - and from that conjecture it is certainly valid. But I was just trying to advise you your viewpoint does not coincide with what appeared on the screen. If you agree with most fans that screen revealed facts should be considered as canon over other sources then 2503 is the revealed date.

The script from Hunter's site is a wonderful resource and I have previously examined it (as an aside may I pubicly acknowledge that Hunter has a magnificent site which I am glad is available to us all on the net). However the script would appear to be an early draft (Ed Rowak appears in the list of characters as opposed to Burke). Yes the picture is a drawing - but I would have to agree with the point I read on another post once - it was a plot device which was only one the screen for a few seconds, they didn't have the budget to create a futuristic photo.

As for the ruined subway station I could attempt to rationalise it but I won't. It is not my story and anything I say would only be a guess. I would like to agree with those souls who have stated that it is dangerous to try and unravel the timelines. By all means go ahead if you want though, if you have fun then that is great! But we all know there are many inconsitencies in the movies and television show, thankfully those small flaws don't stop us enjoying the experience.

In closing let me say that any point I offer is only my bumbling attempt to share information. Most of this I have gleaned from reading the posts in this group and in other sites on the net. Any viewpoint you or anyone else is just as valid (if not more so).

Cheers,

Patrick


James <JamesA1102@...> wrote:
I was refering to what was written in the shooting script. Take a
look at it on Hunter's site:
http://www.goatley.com/pota/scripts/pota_tv_escape_from_tomorrow.pdf
No date is referenced. And that picture is drawing not a photograph.
It looks like something improvised at the last minute.
Additionally, it is contradicted in "The Trap". The ruins of the
subway station are from the 20th Century. Or how else would Burke be
able to explain the products advertised to Urko.


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Group: potadg Message: 18968 From: James Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: Virdon Go Home?
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Patrick,

I think you've missed the whole point of my original post. I'm not
disputing canon at all. My point was that there are so many
discrepancies in the TV series (as well as the movies) that one
factiod should not be used to prove one theory or another while
ignoring the all other evidence that disputes it.
I believe the original poster used that example as prove that the TV
series was a different universe than the movies. While another
stated that it proved the TV series was in the same timeline as the
first 2 films.
My point was that there were enough discrepencies and changes that
neither statement could be proved absolutely. And without the
writer's bible from the TV series it is hard to know what the
intention of the producer's really was.


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Damian Martin <sandman4552@y...>
wrote:
> James,
>
> I was aware that you were using the script to support your point
of view - and from that conjecture it is certainly valid. But I was
just trying to advise you your viewpoint does not coincide with what
appeared on the screen. If you agree with most fans that screen
revealed facts should be considered as canon over other sources then
2503 is the revealed date.
>
> The script from Hunter's site is a wonderful resource and I have
previously examined it (as an aside may I pubicly acknowledge that
Hunter has a magnificent site which I am glad is available to us all
on the net). However the script would appear to be an early draft
(Ed Rowak appears in the list of characters as opposed to Burke).
Yes the picture is a drawing - but I would have to agree with the
point I read on another post once - it was a plot device which was
only one the screen for a few seconds, they didn't have the budget
to create a futuristic photo.
>
> As for the ruined subway station I could attempt to rationalise it
but I won't. It is not my story and anything I say would only be a
guess. I would like to agree with those souls who have stated that
it is dangerous to try and unravel the timelines. By all means go
ahead if you want though, if you have fun then that is great! But we
all know there are many inconsitencies in the movies and television
show, thankfully those small flaws don't stop us enjoying the
experience.
>
> In closing let me say that any point I offer is only my bumbling
attempt to share information. Most of this I have gleaned from
reading the posts in this group and in other sites on the net. Any
viewpoint you or anyone else is just as valid (if not more so).
>
> Cheers,
>
> Patrick
>
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Group: potadg Message: 18969 From: hotscheetz Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: Virdon Go Home?
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Does anyone know if there actually was one of these (as in, seen it,
not just talked about it)?...If it exists, then shouldn't someone be
able to get a copy of it?...

G

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:

And without the writer's bible from the TV series it is hard to know
what the intention of the producer's really was.
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Group: potadg Message: 18970 From: James Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: Virdon Go Home?
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Usually there is one for every series. I would find it hard to
believe that there wasn't one for the POTA TV series. Unfortunately,
any remaining copies of it may have been lost over the years.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
> Does anyone know if there actually was one of these (as in, seen
it,
> not just talked about it)?...If it exists, then shouldn't someone
be
> able to get a copy of it?...
>
> G
>
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Group: potadg Message: 18971 From: Mithril1960@aol.com Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1030
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In a message dated 7/6/2004 4:19:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com writes:

I couldn't agree more! I recently saw the newest Time Machine
movie and thought the Morlocks in the new film were awfully
simian.

And how about that cornfield round-up???



How about that movie SUCKED. I don't care if Wells entire family was
involved, it wasn't worth two seconds of the classic original. Gee kind of like POTA
2001 isn't even as good as the opening credits of POTA 68!
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Group: potadg Message: 18972 From: Mithril1960@aol.com Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1030
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In a message dated 7/6/2004 4:19:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com writes:

My point was that there are so many
discrepancies in the TV series



Speaking of the TV series, has anyone read my fanfic for it? TV Series -
Finis or Freak, which is based after Battle and before Planet? Just like to know what the members (except Rory if he's lurking around since he hates
everything) think.
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Group: potadg Message: 18973 From: Neil Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: NASA/ANSA
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> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
> <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> > Oh, he's just being British!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
> And that's hard for an Angelenan to do, let me tell you...

A what???

Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 18975 From: hotscheetz Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: Virdon Go Home?
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Um, James, that's not the answer I wanted to hear...I wanted a
response more like, "Oh, sure, I've got one here...How about if I
upload it into the 'files'"...

G

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> Usually there is one for every series. I would find it hard to
> believe that there wasn't one for the POTA TV series.
Unfortunately,
> any remaining copies of it may have been lost over the years.
<.html
Group: potadg Message: 18976 From: hotscheetz Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1030
.html
Awe, c'mon...Quit mincing words and say what you really feel...

I happen to agree with you, wholeheartedly -- and it's strange, but
with both the remake of "Time Machine" and POTA2001 I had hoped that
they were going to stick closer to the original novels, as well...

G

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Mithril1960@a... wrote:
> How about that movie SUCKED. I don't care if Wells entire family
was
> involved, it wasn't worth two seconds of the classic original. Gee
kind of like POTA
> 2001 isn't even as good as the opening credits of POTA 68!
<.html
Group: potadg Message: 18977 From: hotscheetz Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: NASA/ANSA
.html
An Angelenan -- someone from Los Angeles...Duh!...=)

I live in Southern California, Ventura County, actually, but on the
border of LA County,,,

G

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:

> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "hotscheetz" <HotScheetz@a...> wrote:
> > And that's hard for an Angelenan to do, let me tell you...
>
> A what???
>
> Neil
<.html
Group: potadg Message: 18979 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Flynn's Article
.html
Nothing like a fresh perspective, eh?

Or do you prefer dinosaurs? ;)

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: veetus@... [veetus@...]
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 3:34 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Flynn's Article

Joe has been around the block with POTA. Sounds like Flynn is a newbie. - -
- Jeff


Group: potadg Message: 18980 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: Russo
.html
Any idea what the actual sales figures were for this Jeff?

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: veetus@... [veetus@...]
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 4:52 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re:Russo

It's amazing with all the entertainment topics under the sun that get books
written about them, that no publisher in the '90's thought "POTA Revisited"
was worth while. It only barely got published because of POTA2001. - - -
Jeff


Group: potadg Message: 18981 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Comic Book Marketplace # 68 (May 1999)
.html
Oh, Jeff thinks Sauseville's book is good....what would HE know!? ;)

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Menluth [menluth@...]
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 12:46 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Comic Book Marketplace # 68 (May 1999)


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> Who has this? I do. It's all about POTA and other simian
comics. - Jeff
>

Jeff, I'm very envious! This sounds like the ultimate collector's
book for fans of simian fiction including and beyond POTA. That's
me! Now I need to hunt this one down. Sounds like you made quite a
find. I'm going to send your description out to my Yahoo Simian
Fiction group (link in our Links section) to see if anyone there
knows about it. It's a long shot, though, since there are not many
on that group who are into simian comics. But you never know.

Menluth.


Group: potadg Message: 18982 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Got a few hundred going spare?
.html
HEY!

I know somebody in this group who owns the conquest cover.

Now they know what it is worth!

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Maxwell [alan@...]
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 1:26 AM
To: PotaDG
Subject: [PotaDG] Got a few hundred going spare?


Ebay, item number 6306610405. Nice.


Group: potadg Message: 18983 From: James Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Fan Fiction
.html
FYI These stories are in the Fan Fiction group.
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDGfanfiction/files/
Everyone be sure to check them out.



--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Mithril1960@a... wrote:
>
> Speaking of the TV series, has anyone read my fanfic for it? TV
Series -
> Finis or Freak, which is based after Battle and before Planet?
Just like to know what the members think.
<.html
Group: potadg Message: 18984 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: Comic Book Marketplace # 68 (May 1999)
.html
Please do Greg!

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Plonowski [urko3085@...]
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 5:38 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Comic Book Marketplace # 68 (May 1999)


I have this buried in a box somewhere. I'll dig it out when I get home from
vacation and see how much of it is worth scanning.

Greg P.


Group: potadg Message: 18985 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Goldsmith commentary on the POTA DVD
.html
I did - well, I asked if it might have been.

Just seemed in tune with the flavour of the entire project "Oh - let's just
kift that from there and whack it on there...perfect!" ;)

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: mlccougar@... [mlccougar@...]
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 7:26 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Goldsmith commentary on the POTA DVD


In a message dated 7/4/2004 3:50:31 PM Central Standard Time,
veetus@... writes:

> I don't think anyone's ever said Goldsmith's commentary was lifted.

I thought Whitty implied it was?


Group: potadg Message: 18986 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Medicom action figures that could have been...
.html
Great choices.

I would like to have seen some "Cinema Scenes" as with the Star Wars Hasbro
figures.

eg "3 wise monkeys" sitting in council with furniture etc.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: apefish54 [apefish54@...]
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 10:33 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] medicom action figures that could have been...


here are some characters from various ape movies that i think would
have been cool if medicom had released them as action figures in
their "ultra detail" series. -kolp, mcdonald, virgil, mandemus, dr
maximus, julius, dr galen, honorious, landon, dodge, armando, lisa,
mutants(from both 'beneath' & 'battle'), presidant of the assembly,
cornelius(caeser's son)the hunt leader, child chimpanzee's
(from 'battle'), governor brenck.


Group: potadg Message: 18987 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: NASA/ANSA
.html
Neil,

Let's go vist!

It is getting cold down here!

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: hotscheetz [HotScheetz@...]
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 9:18 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: NASA/ANSA


An Angelenan -- someone from Los Angeles...Duh!...=)

I live in Southern California, Ventura County, actually, but on the
border of LA County,,,

G


Group: potadg Message: 18988 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Medicom Rarity on eBay - anyone got this one? ;)
.html
Here it is.

Rebel
<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=16469&item=590809581
8&rd=1> Ape.

John, this item is critical to the completion of any article on POTA Action
Figures. It is VERY strange!

It is a figure of Che Guevarra (spelling) with and interchangable Caesar
head!

Rare!

TOTALLY DISCONTINUED*****MINT IN BOX/NEVER REMOVED/FACTORY
SEALED****INCREDIBLY DETAILED & ARTICULATED "REBEL APE" MEGO/GI.JOE STYLE
12" FIGURE BY MEDICOM,JAPAN.This item was a special MAIL AWAY EXCLUSIVE made
ONLY for Japanese market and was NOT sold in any retail stores.It is a
EXTREMELY HARD item to find(which you had to reserve PRIOR to the release)
DIRECTLY with MEDICOM.The LIFE LIKE details are absolutely INCREDIBLE.By
looking at the FACE of the figure(anyone would know immediately)that is so
CLOSE,actually IDENTICAL to Roddy McDowell`s true character!!! From the
CONCEPT of the window CUT-OUT on the box(looks like CAESAR`S HEAD SHADOW
from THE CONQUEST OF THE PLANET OF THE APES poster)all the way to the
originally designed special army outfit.This figure also comes with a extra
"Human face/mask" for special DISGUISE plus extra WEAPONS for battle.Also
the ENTIRE writing on the BOX including "REBEL APE"is all silk screened in
Black letters on top of the army green box.What is also amazing is-the
INSIDE of the back card in Red & Black(which the figure is attached to)is
VERY similar to the photo of "CAESAR" type images.The ENTIRE
packaging(inside & out)on this item is AWESOME-TOP QUALITY!This is DEFINTELY
a serious MUST for a true POTA collector.NOTE:THIS IS NOT A NEW RELEASED
ITEM,AND IS VERY HARD TO FIND! A FANTASTIC ADDITION to your POTA & MEGO
collection-dont miss out!







[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
<.html
Group: potadg Message: 18989 From: Menluth Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: Medicom Rarity on eBay - Ape Guevarra
.html
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> Here it is.
> Rebel Ape

Hi Michael,
I've got the small version of this one, in Kubrick form. It's a
weird homage to Caesar and Che, but I like it.
Menluth.
<.html
Group: potadg Message: 18990 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Medicom Rarity on eBay - Ape Guevarra
.html
Can you scan it - that ios another one I have never seen!

Tell us more - where did you get it etc?

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Menluth [menluth@...]
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 12:49 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Medicom Rarity on eBay - Ape Guevarra


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> Here it is.
> Rebel Ape

Hi Michael,
I've got the small version of this one, in Kubrick form. It's a
weird homage to Caesar and Che, but I like it.
Menluth.


Group: potadg Message: 18991 From: Menluth Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: Medicom Rarity on eBay - Ape Guevarra
.html
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> Can you scan it - that ios another one I have never seen!
> Tell us more - where did you get it etc
> Michael


Sorry, Michael. No scanner. I got it from eBay well over a year ago,
and I recall several of them being around at the time. Go to
www.kidrobot.com, and you'll find a nice, large-sized picture of the
SSUR Kubrick Rebel Ape. He is a great addition to any POTA Kubrick
collection.
Menluth
<.html
Group: potadg Message: 18992 From: hotscheetz Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Re: NASA/ANSA
.html
We're averaging 80 degrees, and I'm getting a wonderful tan...=)

G

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> Neil,
>
> Let's go vist!
>
> It is getting cold down here!
>
> Michael
<.html
Group: potadg Message: 18993 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 7/6/2004
Subject: Global Warming
.html
Great - we're on the way.

-----Original Message-----
From: hotscheetz [HotScheetz@...]
Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 1:15 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: NASA/ANSA


We're averaging 80 degrees, and I'm getting a wonderful tan...=)

G


Group: potadg Message: 18994 From: pazuzu3 Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: CBS 1974 season preview stuff
.html
I just got it from a trade. Of course they promote the POTA TV series
on there. They mostly use clips from the movies and behind the scenes
promo stuff for the movies but the producer Herbert Hirschman says a
few words about the show.

Also in the section with the movies they will be showing, POTA is
included.
<.html
Group: potadg Message: 18995 From: Will Hoover Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1030
.html
on 7/6/04 4:34 PM, Mithril1960@... at Mithril1960@... wrote:
How about that movie SUCKED. I don't care if Wells entire family was
involved, it wasn't worth two seconds of the classic original. Gee kind of
like POTA
2001 isn't even as good as the opening credits of POTA 68!



I really like The Time Machine '02! It was certainly better than POTA '01.
Everybody's got an opinion, I suppose.

Will
<.html
Group: potadg Message: 18996 From: James Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: CBS 1974 season preview stuff
.html
Is this on tape? Can you do a transfer to DVD.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "pazuzu3" <mego73@h...> wrote:
> I just got it from a trade. Of course they promote the POTA TV
series
> on there. They mostly use clips from the movies and behind the
scenes
> promo stuff for the movies but the producer Herbert Hirschman says
a
> few words about the show.
>
> Also in the section with the movies they will be showing, POTA is
> included.
<.html
Group: potadg Message: 18997 From: hotscheetz Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: Global Warming
.html
I'll air out the spare bedroom...

G

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> Great - we're on the way.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hotscheetz [HotScheetz@a...]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 1:15 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: NASA/ANSA
>
>
> We're averaging 80 degrees, and I'm getting a wonderful tan...=)
>
> G
<.html
Group: potadg Message: 18998 From: Will Hoover Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: Sideshow Collectibles Lawgiver
.html
on 7/3/04 10:28 AM, Menluth at menluth@... wrote:

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Kassidy Rae <valwp@y...> wrote:
> This is the news I got as an affiliate from Sideshow:
>> *This is one of the most memorable icons from The Planet of the
Apes. The Lawgiver > Kass
>
Thanks, Kass, for the link to this one. I had ordered the earlier
run (and still waiting their arrival) of 12" figures from Sideshow,
but had no idea that they were coming out with an 18" Lawgiver, the
greatest of all apes!!! (according to Cornelius anyway). What say
the experts on this group? Is this a worthy reproduction of the
Lawgiver statue? Did they get it right?

Menluth.


It's hard to say just from viewing pictures of the prototype, but I almost
prefer Medicom's Greatest Ape. It was certainly a lot cheaper and a lot
easier to store.

Will


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
<.html
Group: potadg Message: 18999 From: libraryape Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: I need "Beware of the beast man."
.html
Shame on me. I don't know all of scroll 9, verse 26, or is it scroll
29, verse six. Foregive me. My memory is all shot to hell! Can
someone send me the verse? I need it for my English class. Thanks.
Wendy
<.html
Group: potadg Message: 19000 From: Vinny Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: i think this is cool
.html
please dont think this is an ad but i was window shoping on ebay and
found this.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
ViewItem&category=70976&item=2255541855

I just wish i had some disposible income!

I think that that is so cool.
<.html
Group: potadg Message: 19001 From: ron kenner Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: CBS 1974 season preview stuff
.html
was wondering how potaTV stacked up against other
shows of that era...
in terms of general producton value and writing;
what were some of the other shows that pota fans
watched back then?

young rob
born 1972


--- pazuzu3 <mego73@...> wrote:
> I just got it from a trade. Of course they promote
> the POTA TV series
> on there. They mostly use clips from the movies and
> behind the scenes
> promo stuff for the movies but the producer Herbert
> Hirschman says a
> few words about the show.
>
> Also in the section with the movies they will be
> showing, POTA is
> included.
>
>
>


=====
GO VEGETARIAN!




<.html
Group: potadg Message: 19002 From: Vinny Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: CBS 1974 season preview stuff
.html
I'm interested in POTA and I can make DVDs. Lets chat! I would love
to see it.




--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
> Is this on tape? Can you do a transfer to DVD.
>
<.html
Group: potadg Message: 19003 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: I need "Beware of the beast man."
.html
Wendy:

Here you go. According to the final shooting script in the group files section this is from the 23rd scroll, 9th verse.


"Beware the beast man, for he is the

devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates,

he kills for sport, or lust or greed.

Yes, he will murder his brother to possess

his brother's land. Let him not breed

in great numbers, for he will make a desert

of his home and yours. Shun him. Drive him

back into his jungle lair: For he is the

harbinger of death."



Greg P.

libraryape <Willowape@...> wrote:
Shame on me. I don't know all of scroll 9, verse 26, or is it scroll
29, verse six. Foregive me. My memory is all shot to hell! Can
someone send me the verse? I need it for my English class. Thanks.
Wendy



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
<.html
Group: potadg Message: 19004 From: neptunewanter Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1030
.html
One great thing about the new Time Machine was the soundtrack. Very
original.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Will Hoover <will5967@v...> wrote:
> on 7/6/04 4:34 PM, Mithril1960@a... at Mithril1960@a... wrote:
> How about that movie SUCKED. I don't care if Wells entire family
was
> involved, it wasn't worth two seconds of the classic original. Gee
kind of
> like POTA
> 2001 isn't even as good as the opening credits of POTA 68!
>
>
>
> I really like The Time Machine '02! It was certainly better than
POTA '01.
> Everybody's got an opinion, I suppose.
>
> Will
<.html
Group: potadg Message: 19005 From: libraryape Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: I need "Beware of the beast man."
.html
Thanks Greg. Boy was I WAY off. I need the scroll to campare it to a
saying in the book "Life of Pi" written by Yann Martel. THe saying is
posted on sign in a zoo called Pondicherry India. "Do you know who is
most dangerous animal in the zoo?" The sign is hung just above a
curtain. THe zoo guest eager to know the answer, draw open the
curtian and find they are looking at their own refelctions. Very
clever this is but it so tragicly true. YOu wouldn't believe what
people use to, and still do to zoo animals. It's appauling.

Wendy
>
> Here you go. According to the final shooting script in the group
files section this is from the 23rd scroll, 9th verse.
>
>
> "Beware the beast man, for he is the
>
> devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates,
>
> he kills for sport, or lust or greed.
>
> Yes, he will murder his brother to possess
>
> his brother's land. Let him not breed
>
> in great numbers, for he will make a desert
>
> of his home and yours. Shun him. Drive him
>
> back into his jungle lair: For he is the
>
> harbinger of death."
>
>
>
> Greg P.
>
> libraryape <Willowape@h...> wrote:
> Shame on me. I don't know all of scroll 9, verse 26, or is it
scroll
> 29, verse six. Foregive me. My memory is all shot to hell! Can
> someone send me the verse? I need it for my English class. Thanks.
> Wendy
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
<.html
Group: potadg Message: 19006 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: CBS 1974 season preview stuff
.html
> Is this on tape? Can you do a transfer to DVD.

Or be willing to loan it to me to add to my to-do list for DVD?

Hunter
<.html
Group: potadg Message: 19007 From: pazuzu3 Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: CBS 1974 season preview stuff
.html
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Hunter Goatley <goathunter@g...> wrote:
> > Is this on tape? Can you do a transfer to DVD.


I suppose I can loan the DVD after I copy it to tape.


>
> Or be willing to loan it to me to add to my to-do list for DVD?
>
> Hunter
<.html
Group: potadg Message: 19008 From: pazuzu3 Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: CBS 1974 season preview stuff
.html
I actually got it on a DVD. Don't have the means to make a copy
myself (except on VHS tape). Quality is quite poor though but still
watchable.

Mike



--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@g...> wrote:
> > Is this on tape? Can you do a transfer to DVD.
>
> Or be willing to loan it to me to add to my to-do list for DVD?
>
> Hunter
<.html
Group: potadg Message: 19009 From: ape_mom Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: Got a few hundred going spare?
.html
That's cool. That cover is my favorite, actually. I love that
picture. It's so, well, civilized!!

It would make a great nursery wallpaper border ;)

--Helen




--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> HEY!
>
> I know somebody in this group who owns the conquest cover.
>
> Now they know what it is worth!
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Maxwell [alan@a...]
> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 1:26 AM
> To: PotaDG
> Subject: [PotaDG] Got a few hundred going spare?
>
>
> Ebay, item number 6306610405. Nice.
>
<.html
Group: potadg Message: 19010 From: Menluth Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: Digest Number 1030
.html
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "neptunewanter" <neptunewanter@y...>
wrote:
> One great thing about the new Time Machine was the soundtrack.
Very original.
>

Ho Neptune,
Time Machine was great, and the soundtrack is definitely a keeper.
It's a great story in its own right. But anything that reminds me
positively of an Apes movie is noteworthy in my books.
Menluth.
<.html
Group: potadg Message: 19011 From: Menluth Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: Sideshow Collectibles Lawgiver
.html
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Will Hoover <will5967@v...> wrote:
> It's hard to say just from viewing pictures of the prototype, but
I almost prefer Medicom's Greatest Ape. It was certainly a lot
cheaper and a lot easier to store.
> Will

Ho Will,
Much though I love my Medicoms, I am VERY psyched over this new
Lawgiver. I just uploaded the Flash Plugin so I could view the
rotating Flash gallery views of the Sideshow Lawgiver. Most
impressive. Sure, the Medicom Lawgiver is much easier to tote
around, should we feel the need, but you just can't have a large
enough Lawgiver. Had I the means and the space, I'd be calling up
Apemania in a second to commission their ultimate exact replica
statue. This is my holy grail! Even better than that might be the
one the Mutants conjured up for Gen. Ursus' army. Now that was a
serious Lawgiver!
Menluth.
<.html
Group: potadg Message: 19012 From: ron kenner Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: i think this is cool
.html
indeed, it was cool.
i always enjoy the pota-related ebay links
rob

--- Vinny <mediamiester@...> wrote:
> please dont think this is an ad but i was window
> shoping on ebay and
> found this.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
> ViewItem&category=70976&item=2255541855
>
> I just wish i had some disposible income!
>
> I think that that is so cool.
<.html
Group: potadg Message: 19013 From: ron kenner Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: I need "Beware of the beast man."
.html
but in the king james version it says "yea" instead of
"yes"
> >
> > Here you go. According to the final shooting
> script in the group
> files section this is from the 23rd scroll, 9th
> verse.
> >
> >
> > "Beware the beast man, for he is the
> >
> > devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates,
> >
> > he kills for sport, or lust or greed.
> >
> > Yes, he will murder his brother to possess
> >
> > his brother's land. Let him not breed
> >
> > in great numbers, for he will make a desert
> >
> > of his home and yours. Shun him. Drive him
> >
> > back into his jungle lair: For he is the
> >
> > harbinger of death."
> >
> >
> >
> > Greg P.
> >
> > libraryape <Willowape@h...> wrote:
> > Shame on me. I don't know all of scroll 9, verse
> 26, or is it
> scroll
> > 29, verse six. Foregive me. My memory is all shot
> to hell! Can
> > someone send me the verse? I need it for my
> English class. Thanks.
> > Wendy
<.html
Group: potadg Message: 19014 From: Menluth Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: I need "Beware the beast man."
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , ron kenner <brindlepit2002@y...>
wrote:
> but in the king james version it says "yea" instead of
> "yes"

You're right, Rob. I wonder if McDowall decided to adlib that one.
If so, it was a great improvement. "Yes" just doesn't seem to convey
the weightiness of those lines. Who didn't come out the theatre, or
walk around the house after seeing PA68 on tv, muttering those lines
to themselves? Classic stuff!
Menluth.
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Group: potadg Message: 19015 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: I need "Beware the Beast"
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You need "Beware the Beast"?

OK then - James, you seem to have space for Chapter 9 on the group site -
would you like to host the next chapter?

Michael


Group: potadg Message: 19016 From: Menluth Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Sacred Scrolls
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "libraryape" <Willowape@h...> wrote:
I need the scroll to campare it to a > saying in the book "Life of
Pi" written by Yann Martel. THe saying is > posted on sign in a zoo
called Pondicherry India. "Do you know who is > most dangerous
animal in the zoo?" > Wendy
> >

The 23rd Scroll, 9th verse has some interesting choices of words.
Note that humanity are described as "among God's primates". That
would indicate that, at some point, the apes believe humans to be a
primate creation of God, just like themselves. That line does more
to bring the species together than to separate them. Had we not
heard more of the Sacred Scrolls, I might have assumed that, at one
point in ape mythology, they viewed apes and humans to be equal, but
that the humans "fell" from grace, making them "alone" because of
their vices.

I say I might have assumed that, except that we also learn that
Proteus, in some sort of ape eden, made sport of the human. The apes
seem to view their separation from humans as having taken place very
early in the development of creation. Any thoughts on this?

Menluth, High Priest of Kygoor.
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Group: potadg Message: 19017 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: Sacred Scrolls
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Excellent observation of the apes' creation story. The use of the word
primate does indicate
that they view humans as part of the primate order. It also suggests the
existence of other
primates and it makes me wonder how the apes would view baboons, gibbons,
monkeys etc. They probably have the most animosity towards humans. Elaine


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Group: potadg Message: 19018 From: James Date: 7/7/2004
Subject: Re: I need "Beware the Beast"
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Sure. Email it to me and I'll put it up.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> You need "Beware the Beast"?
>
> OK then - James, you seem to have space for Chapter 9 on the group
site -
> would you like to host the next chapter?
>
> Michael
>
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Group: potadg Message: 19019 From: ron kenner Date: 7/8/2004
Subject: Re: I need "Beware the beast man."
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who didnt come out of the theatre muttering ape scriptures?
probably the people who are not on this list :)
LOL
rob


Menluth <menluth@...> wrote:
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, ron kenner <brindlepit2002@y...>
wrote:
> but in the king james version it says "yea" instead of
> "yes"

You're right, Rob. I wonder if McDowall decided to adlib that one.
If so, it was a great improvement. "Yes" just doesn't seem to convey
the weightiness of those lines. Who didn't come out the theatre, or
walk around the house after seeing PA68 on tv, muttering those lines
to themselves? Classic stuff!
Menluth.
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Group: potadg Message: 19020 From: ape_mom Date: 7/8/2004
Subject: Mithril's FanFic
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Hey James! I put a shortcut to Mithril's fanfic on my desktop, but
can't find it. I think my daughter deleted it. I looked in the
FanFic group, but can't find it. Do you have the address? Thanks.

--Helen
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Group: potadg Message: 19021 From: James Date: 7/8/2004
Subject: Re: Mithril's FanFic
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Here are the direct links to both stories.

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDGfanfiction/files/Freak.doc

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDGfanfiction/files/Salvage.d
oc

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:
> Hey James! I put a shortcut to Mithril's fanfic on my desktop,
but
> can't find it. I think my daughter deleted it. I looked in the
> FanFic group, but can't find it. Do you have the address? Thanks.
>
> --Helen
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