> Roddy sure was gay - I believe on the Simpson's there was a Fast Food toy of
> Liberace saying there's a party at Roddy's.

> > Roddy sure was gay - I believe on the Simpson's there was a Fast

> > Liberace saying there's a party at Roddy's.
>
> Is that supposed to be proof??

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Will Hoover <will5967@v...> wrote:
> on 9/3/04 12:56 AM, Whitty, Michael at Michael.Whitty@d... wrote:
>
> OK - so how many POTA references are there on the Simpsons?
>
> (1) Rosebud - Burns (now a robot body) runs away with Bobo at the
end and there are apes all over;
>
> (2) A Fish Named Selma - Stop This Planet of the Apes Want to Get
Off! musical;
>
> (3) Homer the Astronaut - Homer falls to his knees as Taylor did
when he saw Liberty;
>
> (4) Unknown Titlie - the kids are "round up" as per POTA Cornfield
Roundup with Goldsmith soundtrack;
>
> ARE THERE ANY MORE? I would include the "Liberace" Fast Food toy -
what episode was that?
>
> Also, FUTURAMA has:
>
> (1) Mutants episode where they worship an undetonated atomic bomb;
>
> (2) The cast go to see a movie antitled "Planet of the Clams".
>
> Missed anything?
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Whitty, Michael [Michael.Whitty@d...]
> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 2:46 PM
> To: 'PotaDG@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] The death of Roddy McDowell
>
>
> Hi Mickey and welcome to the group.
>
> Roddy sure was gay - I believe on the Simpson's there was a Fast
Food toy of Liberace saying there's a party at Roddy's.
>
> Maybe if Roddy was alive he would have told them the script for
POTA2001 needed work. He was the one who pushed for another sequel
for years before his death.
>
> Michael
>
>
> Whitty:
>
> As usual, you are right on top of things! Excellent list! Hope
somebody can complete it IF you left anything out. However... boy...
you really gotta get a spellchecker! An unknown "titlie," huh?
>
> Will

> No. It's supposed to be a trivial comment.
>
> Do you need proof hunter? ;)
>
> Michael
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@g...>
> wrote:
> > > Roddy sure was gay - I believe on the Simpson's there was a

> Food toy of
> > > Liberace saying there's a party at Roddy's.
> >
> > Is that supposed to be proof??

> Full details for ordering and contents of issue available at this
> link:
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
>
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>
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>
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>
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> OK - so how many POTA references are there on the Simpsons?
> ARE THERE ANY MORE?

> From: Timothy Howe mailto:timhowe@o...
>
> I think was issue #9 as it featured the ORIGINAL BOB LARKIN art

>
> ----------
> From:

> Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 11:28:05 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Simpsons on the Planet of the Apes
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

>
> ----------
> From: ape_mom[SMTP:SAND_HILL_SCHOOL@...]
> Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 1:20:20 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: The death of Roddy McDowell
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

> No. It's supposed to be a trivial comment.
>
> Do you need proof hunter? ;)
>
> Michael

>
> ----------
> From: Hoknes[SMTP:HOKNES@...]
> Sent: Saturday, September 04, 2004 5:00:44 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com; pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Planet of the Apes australian comic story
> variation!
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Can't go past what is implied by fast food toys if you want
evidenece!
> ;)
>
> I don't have any evidence on hand but I do know it is rather taken
for
> granted that Roddy was gay. Brent, on the other hand....
>
> Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Hoknes" <hoknes@h...> wrote:
> > From: Timothy Howe mailto:timhowe@o...
> >
> > I think was issue #9 as it featured the ORIGINAL BOB LARKIN art
> for that issue which marvel editors changed GROSSLY for the real
> American edition.
>
> Hey I never noticed this before! I just checked it out and it is
> changed.
> The US version of the cover art (#7) is minus a gun held up by the
> gorilla on the left and they have removed the rocks behind the
> Statue of Liberty and darkend the sky!
>
> I will scan the Aussie cover and put it in the Comic cover folder
in
> the photos section.
>
> Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
> <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> > OK - so how many POTA references are there on the Simpsons?
> > ARE THERE ANY MORE?
>
> -- There is an episode that starts with Homer on the 'Planet of
the
> Donuts'(D'oh - nuts??).
> He is in a loincloth in the amphitheatre, on trial but it is
donuts
> instead of apes, can't remember which episode it is though!
>
> Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Will Hoover <will5967@v...> wrote:
> on 9/3/04 2:11 AM, Whitty, Michael at Michael.Whitty@d... wrote:
>
> NO! It's a LIE about a part of ape and/or human anatomy! ;)
>
> Michael
>
> Then... pray tell... what in the HECK are you talking about? :)
>
> Will
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> >--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
> > -- There is an episode that starts with Homer on the 'Planet of

> I already said that!

> Aren't you supposed to be DRAWING? ;)

> I am working on updating my directory of POTA websites
> but I would like YOUR input
> please tell me which you think are the best
> and provide links if possible

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Hoknes <terryhoknes@s...> wrote:
> > I am working on updating my directory of POTA websites
> > but I would like YOUR input
> > please tell me which you think are the best
> > and provide links if possible
>
> -- Here's my list of personal favoutrites (in no particular order):
>
> http://www.goatley.com/pota/
>
> http://planetoftheapestv.150m.com/
>
> http://www.goingfaster.com/icarus/
>
> http://derek.chez.tiscali.fr/sommaire.htm
>
> http://apemania.com/main.htm
>
> http://perso.wanadoo.fr/laplanetedessinges/index_prologue.htm
>
> Neil

> You missed http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/
>
> --Helen

> > -- Here's my list of personal favoutrites (in no particular

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Hoknes <terryhoknes@s...> wrote:
> I JUST THOUGHT I WOULD POST THIS INFO THAT I RECEIVED YESTERDAY
> its quite interesting
>
>
> Terry, what is being said in this email from, I assume, Tim Howe in
> Australia?
>
> From: Timothy Howe mailto:timhowe@o...
>
> I think was issue #9 as it featured the ORIGINAL BOB LARKIN art
for that
> issue which marvel editors changed GROSSLY for the real American
> edition. If
> you haven't already, also seek out the British POTA reprints for
stuff
> like
> marvel's Killraven being altered by drawing apes over the
martians! This
> is
> usually listed as Planet of the Apes Weekly.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> Roddy sure was gay - I believe on the Simpson's there was a Fast Food toy of
> Liberace saying there's a party at Roddy's.

> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 15:20:18 +1000
> From: "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...>
> Subject: RE: Catching up...
>
> How goes the Spanish Apes covers? Don't tell me you lost any, PLEASE!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Will Hoover <will5967@v...> wrote:
> on 9/3/04 5:37 AM, Hunter Goatley at goathunter@g... wrote:
>
> > Roddy sure was gay - I believe on the Simpson's there was a Fast
Food toy of
> > Liberace saying there's a party at Roddy's.
>
> Is that supposed to be proof??
>
> You know, that's kind of my feeling about this subject too. Now
that
> Roddy's gone, everyone seems to be rather obsessed with the idea
that he was
> actually gay. Don't get me wrong though. It would be
interesting to know
> for sure, but for me personally, I really don't care if he was gay
or not.
> It means nothing to me either way. He was and always will be, a
wonderful
> man who, even though I never knew him personally, brightened my
life in
> inumerable ways when I was a child. But even now that I'm
all "grown up,"
> the work that he did lives on and on.
>
> Roddy was a special guy. Sure, he was never the John Wayne or
Chuck Heston
> type, but he was a towering figure in his own right and I think
that's all
> that matters. I also think that even if he was gay, the fact that
he never
> actually "came out of the closet" in public should count for
something. If
> he never came out, it may not have been because he was afraid it
would ruin
> his career. He simply might not have thought that it was
important and that
> his sexual orientation was not the true measure of the man he was.
>
> So, I'm not going to remember him as Roddy the gay actor. I'm
going to
> remember him as Roddy the brilliant actor and special person who
did so much
> to make Planet of the Apes come alive for me and so many others.
Anything
> less would simply trivialize the man. May his memory live on
forever...
> whether he was gay or not.
>
> Will
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 15:20:18 +1000
> From: "Whitty, Michael"
> Subject: RE: Catching up...
>
> How goes the Spanish Apes covers? Don't tell me you lost any, PLEASE!

> So, my observations from the last few weeks, group politics not

> wouldn't get too excited. My prediction is as follows:
>
> It will be the usual clip-show format and will contain, along with

> brief snippets from people who actually matter, lots of British Z-

> celebrities making light of all the legendary moments (my

> that the whiny-voiced guy who presents movie stuff on UK MTV will

> them) and make a lot of not-very-funny observations that they

> hilarious. And probably at least one person will drag out the

> nonsensical old pish about how the apes spoke English so it must

> Earth. And of course this is yet another excuse to spoil it for

> has never seen it.

> offline - but I was born in 1977. That should skew the stats a

> Hello to all newbies and strangers!
>
> I'm interested in POTA fan demographics. This poll will only be

> IF most people respond and IF those who respond don't lie!!

> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Maxwell" <alan@a...> wrote:
> >I think I've managed to squeeze one panel from it into the next
> issue of SCROLLS (out soon!).
>
> How soon?? Any news on when the next issue of Scrolls will be
> released? Wasn't it meant to be out by now?. People are hanging

> for it! ;-)
>
> Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Hoknes <terryhoknes@s...> wrote:

if Zaius knew the truth about man along did the other members of the
high council also know in the first movie ???


Yes.

Without a doubt. Ape politics seemed to breed well-kept secrets,
just like our own.

Mark.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:

Brent, on the other hand....
>
> Michael

+++ DON'T even think of going there. It will start a war that will
never end!!!

;)

Mark.

> on 9/3/04 5:37 AM, Hunter Goatley at goathunter@g... wrote:
>
> > Roddy sure was gay - I believe on the Simpson's there was a Fast

> > Liberace saying there's a party at Roddy's.
>
> Is that supposed to be proof??
>
> You know, that's kind of my feeling about this subject too. Now

> Roddy's gone, everyone seems to be rather obsessed with the idea

> actually gay. Don't get me wrong though. It would be

> for sure, but for me personally, I really don't care if he was gay

> It means nothing to me either way. He was and always will be, a

> man who, even though I never knew him personally, brightened my

> inumerable ways when I was a child. But even now that I'm

> the work that he did lives on and on.
>
> Roddy was a special guy. Sure, he was never the John Wayne or

> type, but he was a towering figure in his own right and I think

> that matters. I also think that even if he was gay, the fact that

> actually "came out of the closet" in public should count for

> he never came out, it may not have been because he was afraid it

> his career. He simply might not have thought that it was

> his sexual orientation was not the true measure of the man he was.
>
> So, I'm not going to remember him as Roddy the gay actor. I'm

> remember him as Roddy the brilliant actor and special person who

> to make Planet of the Apes come alive for me and so many others.

> less would simply trivialize the man. May his memory live on

> whether he was gay or not.
>
> Will
>
>

> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Hoknes <terryhoknes@s...> wrote:
>
> if Zaius knew the truth about man along did the other members of

>
>
> Yes.
>
> Without a doubt. Ape politics seemed to breed well-kept secrets,
> just like our own.
>
> Mark.

> Over on James' group there's been chat regarding an interview
> broadcast on Canadian tv of an interview with Franklin Schaffner.

> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Hoknes" <hoknes@h...> wrote:
> > From: Timothy Howe mailto:timhowe@o...
> >
> > I think was issue #9 as it featured the ORIGINAL BOB LARKIN art
> for that issue which marvel editors changed GROSSLY for the real
> American edition.

> The US version of the cover art (#7) is minus a gun held up by the
> gorilla on the left and they have removed the rocks behind the
> Statue of Liberty and darkend the sky!

> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Will Hoover <will5967@v...> wrote:
> > > > So, I'm not going to remember him as Roddy the gay actor.

> going to
> > remember him as Roddy the brilliant actor and special person who
> did so much
> > to make Planet of the Apes come alive for me and so many others.
> Anything
> > less would simply trivialize the man. May his memory live on
> forever...
> > .
> >
> > Will
> >
> >
> +++ Will -- good one.
>
> Yes.
>
> Mark.

> -- On this subject of the altered Larkin cover art, seeing as my

> of UK POTA comics are long gone (thanks Mum!) would someone be able
> to check and see which version was used on the UK comic that had
> this cover?

> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
> > -- On this subject of the altered Larkin cover art, seeing as my
> set
> > of UK POTA comics are long gone (thanks Mum!) would someone be able
> > to check and see which version was used on the UK comic that had
> > this cover?

> Unfortunately I don't have my US mags to hand, so can someone

> here are the US and UK covers

>
> Terry, Yahoo no longer displays email attachments unless the group
> member receives individual emails. If (like me!) they get the daily
> digest, scans will not show up, neither do they show up on the group
> so it may be a good idea to upload pictures to the photos or files
> sections then we can all see them.

> Does this sound like the Australian issue's cover? This is

> Terry, Yahoo no longer displays email attachments unless the group
> member receives individual emails. If (like me!) they get the daily
> digest, scans will not show up, neither do they show up on the group
> so it may be a good idea to upload pictures to the photos or files
> sections then we can all see them.
>
> Alternately you can send them directly to me and I will upload them
> for you or anyone else that can't / doesn't have the time to upload
> stuff themselves.
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Maxwell" <alan@a...> wrote:
> Does this sound like the Australian issue's cover? This is
interesting.

-- Yep Alan this sounds just like the Aussie version. I uploaded a
scan of it to the photos section (in the Comic covers folder) the
other day if you want to check it out.

It certainly is interesting, why would Marvel go to the trouble of
altering the artwork so much? and how come the UK and Australian
publishers got hold of the original version?

Neil







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----- Original Message -----
From: <mlccougar@...>
To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OH HELP ME PLEEEEASE!!!!


>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: veetus@... [veetus@...]
> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2004 4:38 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: The Disc
>
>
> Virdon is wearing the same clothes he always does (I think?) after he is
> "searched". They found the picture but they may not be that great at
> searching. Or maybe they found the disc but didn't think it was important
> and left it. Or maybe Virdon lost the disc before that. But "The Legacy"
> doesn't show them saying, "A disc! We found a disc!". So we have to
assume
> they missed it.
>
>
> Nor do they show any Apes saying "A picture, look Zaius, we found a
> picture." But, they did find the family picture, and you can guess they'd
not
> overlook anything that looks as suspicious/curiosity as that disc. I'm
sure they
> were under strict orders to collect all personal item found on Virdon,
and that
> would include the photo and the disc. The Gorillas aren't as dumb as some
> make them out to be, they wouldn't miss it.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

----- Original Message -----
From: branchbrood
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 10:42 AM
Subject: [PotaDG] POSTING THIS IN FUN


Hi Jeff, Listen I just wanted to respond to your Response About My
level of Dedication to the Apes Films I'm hoping you were Kidding!
lol

"From: <veetus@...>
>John, if you REALLY were a dedicated fan you would've named your son
>"Nova" after your favorite POTA human. You're not a real fan. NEXT! -
- - Jeff"

I was Only trying to "Break The Ice" as it were LOL Although I /We
Actually DID name my boy TAYLOR! lol and I have an Eight Year Old
Daughter and yet Another Daughter only Seven MONTHS old (NEITHER
NAMED NOVA SORRY) My Actual Choice was "Chaney" a First Name for A
Girl OR a BoyIMHO. Chaney would be a Tribute to my Favorite Actor OF
ALL TIME Lon Chaney! lol The Mrs. Actually went for it,but my In-laws
who are Cuban had some difficulty pronouncing it so instead we went
with Karina,Taylor and the newest is Olivia! lol So anyhoo One last
thing JUST MY OPINION I kinda Prefer "Beneath" to all the rest Love
That mutant Make-Up! lol Well I'll Let you go now I just wanted to
let you know I felt kinda insulted by your reply BUT I'm gonna figure
you were just Kidding ALSO I wanted EVERYONE to Know I'm NOT a "SPY"
I'm NOT here to SELL ANYTHING In Fact I Wanna BUY!!! lol Take Care

JOHN BRANCH aka LONFAN on Various Modeling Boards

BTW ATTACHED ARE PICS OF US AT THE BEACH NO STATUE OF LIBERTY THOUGH!
LOL












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>
> Without a doubt. Ape politics seemed to breed well-kept secrets,
> just like our own.
>
> Mark.

----- Original Message -----
From: branchbrood
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2004 10:42 AM
Subject: [PotaDG] POSTING THIS IN FUN


Hi Jeff, Listen I just wanted to respond to your Response About My
level of Dedication to the Apes Films I'm hoping you were Kidding!
lol







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----- Original Message -----
From: "Will Hoover" <will5967@...>
To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] A Tribute to Roddy McDowell


> on 9/3/04 5:37 AM, Hunter Goatley at goathunter@... wrote:
>
> > Roddy sure was gay - I believe on the Simpson's there was a Fast Food
toy of
> > Liberace saying there's a party at Roddy's.
>
> Is that supposed to be proof??
>
> You know, that's kind of my feeling about this subject too. Now that
> Roddy's gone, everyone seems to be rather obsessed with the idea that he
was
> actually gay. Don't get me wrong though. It would be interesting to
know
> for sure, but for me personally, I really don't care if he was gay or not.
> It means nothing to me either way. He was and always will be, a wonderful
> man who, even though I never knew him personally, brightened my life in
> inumerable ways when I was a child. But even now that I'm all "grown
up,"
> the work that he did lives on and on.
>
> Roddy was a special guy. Sure, he was never the John Wayne or Chuck
Heston
> type, but he was a towering figure in his own right and I think that's all
> that matters. I also think that even if he was gay, the fact that he
never
> actually "came out of the closet" in public should count for something.
If
> he never came out, it may not have been because he was afraid it would
ruin
> his career. He simply might not have thought that it was important and
that
> his sexual orientation was not the true measure of the man he was.
>
> So, I'm not going to remember him as Roddy the gay actor. I'm going to
> remember him as Roddy the brilliant actor and special person who did so
much
> to make Planet of the Apes come alive for me and so many others. Anything
> less would simply trivialize the man. May his memory live on forever...
> whether he was gay or not.
>
> Will
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "sparkytb2005" <sparkytb@h...> wrote:
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> wrote:
> > Hello to all newbies and strangers!
> >
> > I'm interested in POTA fan demographics. This poll will only be
> valid
> > IF most people respond and IF those who respond don't lie!!
>
>
> +++ Helen I think this is the most intelligent poll anyone has ever
> created on the DG.
>
> (Just want to see if I'm right... ;)
>
> Mark.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> Yes, Roddy was gay. I've been told first hand by people who knew
him.
> Roddy was a private person, but obviously being gay was a tough
thing to be
> in the course of Roddy's long life. Perhaps being "different"
informed his
> love of POTA and the lessons it had. Roddy, Pierre Boulle, Paul
Dehn,
> Brent...they gave us a gay old time. - - - Jeff
>

> Brent...they gave us a gay old time. - - - Jeff

> Brent...they gave us a gay old time. - - - Jeff








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----- Original Message -----
From: "Arwen Undomiel" <elfgirl_06@...>
To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 8:03 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: A Tribute to Roddy McDowell


> I am very sad to say that I was not a Roddy McDowall fan till
> November of last year. In fact I was completely against the Planet
> of the Apes and anything to do with it. Mainly because the 2001
> version came out a few months before the Fellowship of the Ring and
> I didn't want any competition for the oscars.
> Now I am sorry that I missed out before last year. And now I am
> completely addicted.
>
> Kasey
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----- Original Message -----
From: "greg" <gbharris1@...>
To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 8:04 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: A Tribute to Roddy McDowell


> I thought we dispelled the "rumor" that Brent was gay a long time
> ago with your contest Jeff? By the way...I am really enjoying the
> Kubrick Ursus set I won from you on that one.
>
> Greg#2
>
> Roddy, Pierre Boulle, Paul Dehn,
> > Brent...they gave us a gay old time. - - - Jeff
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Arwen Undomiel" <elfgirl_06@...>
To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 8:03 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: A Tribute to Roddy McDowell


> I am very sad to say that I was not a Roddy McDowall fan till
> November of last year. In fact I was completely against the Planet
> of the Apes and anything to do with it. Mainly because the 2001
> version came out a few months before the Fellowship of the Ring and
> I didn't want any competition for the oscars.
> Now I am sorry that I missed out before last year. And now I am
> completely addicted.
>
> Kasey







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----- Original Message -----
From: "greg" <gbharris1@...>
To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 8:04 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: A Tribute to Roddy McDowell


> I thought we dispelled the "rumor" that Brent was gay a long time
> ago with your contest Jeff? By the way...I am really enjoying the
> Kubrick Ursus set I won from you on that one.
>
> Greg#2
>
> Roddy, Pierre Boulle, Paul Dehn,
> > Brent...they gave us a gay old time. - - - Jeff







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----- Original Message -----
From: Whitty, Michael
To: 'PotaDG@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:19 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] A Tribute to Roddy McDowell


It would have been fascinating to see what Jackson would have done - and it
would also be fascinating to see what he CAN do. If he STILL wants to do
something with POTA, I would say he might get a chance if King Kong is a
success.

Did they ever get a script or even a description of the story for Jackson's
movie?

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: veetus@... [veetus@...]
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 1:48 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: A Tribute to Roddy McDowell


Well, it's no contest. In POTA vs. "Lord of the Rings", "Rings" won. You
might find it interesting to know that in 1992 Peter Jackson tried to
convince 20th Century Fox to let him make POTA (he was Roddy's choice). And
the POTA script developed by Oliver Stone in 1994 had a definite "Lord of
the Rings" flavor, including a character called Aragorn who is meant to
assume his mantle as the king of mankind. - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arwen Undomiel" <elfgirl_06@...>
To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 8:03 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: A Tribute to Roddy McDowell


> I am very sad to say that I was not a Roddy McDowall fan till
> November of last year. In fact I was completely against the Planet
> of the Apes and anything to do with it. Mainly because the 2001
> version came out a few months before the Fellowship of the Ring and
> I didn't want any competition for the oscars.
> Now I am sorry that I missed out before last year. And now I am
> completely addicted.
>
> Kasey







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----- Original Message -----
From: Whitty, Michael
To: 'PotaDG@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:19 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] A Tribute to Roddy McDowell


It would have been fascinating to see what Jackson would have done - and it
would also be fascinating to see what he CAN do. If he STILL wants to do
something with POTA, I would say he might get a chance if King Kong is a
success.

Did they ever get a script or even a description of the story for Jackson's
movie?

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: veetus@... [veetus@...]
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 1:48 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: A Tribute to Roddy McDowell


Well, it's no contest. In POTA vs. "Lord of the Rings", "Rings" won. You
might find it interesting to know that in 1992 Peter Jackson tried to
convince 20th Century Fox to let him make POTA (he was Roddy's choice). And
the POTA script developed by Oliver Stone in 1994 had a definite "Lord of
the Rings" flavor, including a character called Aragorn who is meant to
assume his mantle as the king of mankind. - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arwen Undomiel" <elfgirl_06@...>
To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 8:03 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: A Tribute to Roddy McDowell


> I am very sad to say that I was not a Roddy McDowall fan till
> November of last year. In fact I was completely against the Planet
> of the Apes and anything to do with it. Mainly because the 2001
> version came out a few months before the Fellowship of the Ring and
> I didn't want any competition for the oscars.
> Now I am sorry that I missed out before last year. And now I am
> completely addicted.
>
> Kasey







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----- Original Message -----
From: Whitty, Michael
To: 'PotaDG@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:23 PM
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: A Tribute to Roddy McDowell


Now that we're all supposed to be adults here, could I ask you Jeff to go
over your evidence for Brent being gay.

Yes, I know it doesn't matter, but in a way it DOES. If Brent was written
to be a gay man there was a reason for it. And analysing that reason could
be interesting.

If anyone does wish to protest this thread, please speak up now.

I think it will be fine so long as we don't reduce this to a name calling
session.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: veetus@... [veetus@...]
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 1:50 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: A Tribute to Roddy McDowell


As I recall Greg, I wasn't totally satisfied with your answer but someone
had to win the contest and yours was the best answer. He's gay. Not that
there's anything wrong with that. - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "greg" <gbharris1@...>
To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 8:04 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: A Tribute to Roddy McDowell


> I thought we dispelled the "rumor" that Brent was gay a long time
> ago with your contest Jeff? By the way...I am really enjoying the
> Kubrick Ursus set I won from you on that one.
>
> Greg#2
>
> Roddy, Pierre Boulle, Paul Dehn,
> > Brent...they gave us a gay old time. - - - Jeff







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----- Original Message -----
From: Whitty, Michael
To: 'PotaDG@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:27 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] OT: Sideshow "X-Files"


Jeff, what was the comany owned by a POTA fan you said were trying to get a
license to make POTA figures....was if McFarland or something?

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: veetus@... [veetus@...]
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 3:19 PM
To: pota_phenomenon@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ; the gang
Subject: [PotaDG] OT: Sideshow "X-Files"


As the wait continues for the release of Sideshow's POTA figures, here's a
review of Sideshow's latest product, "The X-Files", from the terrific site
mwctoys: http://www.mwctoys.com/REVIEW_090104a.htm
<http://www.mwctoys.com/REVIEW_090104a.htm> . - - - Jeff







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----- Original Message -----
From: Whitty, Michael
To: 'PotaDG@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:23 PM
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: A Tribute to Roddy McDowell


Now that we're all supposed to be adults here, could I ask you Jeff to go
over your evidence for Brent being gay.

Yes, I know it doesn't matter, but in a way it DOES. If Brent was written
to be a gay man there was a reason for it. And analysing that reason
could
be interesting.

If anyone does wish to protest this thread, please speak up now.

I think it will be fine so long as we don't reduce this to a name calling
session.

Michael







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----- Original Message -----
From: Whitty, Michael
To: 'PotaDG@yahoogroups.com'
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:45 PM
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] A Tribute to Roddy McDowell


But surely the issue is whether or not Jackson is a POTA fan?

I heard him with his cast on TV the other day (they were in Australia headed
for New Zealand to film) and he said KK is something he always loved and
that's why he went hard for it. Don't you think if he is a POTA fan (which
I assume he IS) he would casually say to Fox "I want to do POTA next" and
they would fall over to allow it (that's IF King Kong is a success)?

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: veetus@... [veetus@...]
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 3:43 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] A Tribute to Roddy McDowell


It sounds like Warner Bros. is buying MGM, which would give them the
rights to "The Hobbit", which Jackson is interested in. I think POTA is out
of luck with Jackson now.







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> That's incredible - I wonder if it was a straight lift or if it was
> re-recorded?
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hoknes [terryhoknes@...]
> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 1:42 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com; pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] jerry goldsmith 1968 movie music can be heard in THE

>
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> i was listening to the background music and clearly heard a movie theme
> played in the tv episode on the dvd at 14:55
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----- Original Message -----
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To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:46 PM
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] A Tribute to Roddy McDowell


> Jeff,
>
> Would you be able to find out more about this pitch - like what it was to
be
> (I imagine a 6th sequel)?
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: veetus@... [veetus@...]
> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 3:43 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] A Tribute to Roddy McDowell
>
>
> Brian Peck was a friend of Roddy's, and told me that Jackson and Roddy
> pitched an idea to Fox. There was no script or anything, just a pitch.
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> That's incredible - I wonder if it was a straight lift or if it was
> re-recorded?
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hoknes [terryhoknes@...]
> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 1:42 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com; pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] jerry goldsmith 1968 movie music can be heard in THE

>
>
> i was listening to the background music and clearly heard a movie theme
> played in the tv episode on the dvd at 14:55







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----- Original Message -----
From: "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...>
To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:48 PM
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] A Tribute to Roddy McDowell


> An enormous money spinner.
>
> The problem is they assumed to be that POTA must be formulaic....they
forfot
> that 99% of its success came from the fact that it SET the mould, and
other
> franchises followed.
>
> POTA was the first big original Sci-fi franchise, topped only by Star Wars
> when it was HUGE.
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: veetus@... [veetus@...]
> Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 3:43 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] A Tribute to Roddy McDowell
>
>
> What the hell Fox thought POTA should be isn't clear, except a commercial
> mess. - - - Jeff
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...>
To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:46 PM
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] A Tribute to Roddy McDowell


> Jeff,
>
> Would you be able to find out more about this pitch - like what it was to
be
> (I imagine a 6th sequel)?
>
> Michael







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----- Original Message -----
From: "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...>
To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 10:48 PM
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] A Tribute to Roddy McDowell


> An enormous money spinner.
>
> The problem is they assumed to be that POTA must be formulaic....they
forfot
> that 99% of its success came from the fact that it SET the mould, and
other
> franchises followed.
>
> POTA was the first big original Sci-fi franchise, topped only by Star Wars
> when it was HUGE.
>
> Michael







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----- Original Message -----
From: Will Hoover
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 05, 2004 11:23 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] Brent is not gay!!!


on 9/6/04 12:23 AM, Whitty, Michael at Michael.Whitty@... wrote:

Now that we're all supposed to be adults here, could I ask you Jeff to go
over your evidence for Brent being gay.

Yes, I know it doesn't matter, but in a way it DOES. If Brent was written
to be a gay man there was a reason for it. And analysing that reason could
be interesting.

If anyone does wish to protest this thread, please speak up now.

I think it will be fine so long as we don't reduce this to a name calling
session.

Michael

I personally have NEVER gotten the idea that Brent was gay. In fact, I
thought it was just a joke with you guys because he never actually hit on
Nova.

At any rate, I'm in the process of reading Brian Pendreigh's book, The
Legend of the Planet of the Apes and on page 124 he writes, "Brent has
followed Taylor's route from twentieth-century Earth to the planet of the
apes, meets Nova and picks up where Taylor left off. Dehn and Abrahams even
considered a romance between Brent and Nova, before deciding the audience
might think ill of such infidelity on her part."

So there you go! Brent was NOT gay! He simply didn't have the chance to
hit on Nova and even if he had been confined in a cage with her for several
weeks the way Taylor had, he most likely would have thought twice about
doing the nasty with her since, when he first layed eyes on the girl, she
was wearing Taylor's dogtags. And I don't know about the rest of you, but
in the primative human society of 3955 AD, giving a girl your dogtags is
about as close as you'd ever get to a wedding ring!

Will


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