--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:

>Speaking of 'the book' are we ready for the next chapter yet?

-- Oops! forgot to add: Because if we are I have an illustration
ready to upload to the files folder for it.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , PotaDG@yahoogroups.com wrote:

>
> Birthday Reminder from the Calendar of PotaDG
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/cal
>
> Charlton Heston's Birthday
> Monday October 4, 2004

-- Does anyone have any news on how Mr. Heston is doing these days?
How is he going with his illness? I haven't heard any news for quite
a while now.

Neil

I'll load it up from work today.

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
> >Speaking of 'the book' are we ready for the next chapter yet?
>
> -- Oops! forgot to add: Because if we are I have an illustration
> ready to upload to the files folder for it.
>
> Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> I hope Neil made it back from Surfer's Paradise in one piece - I

have just spent a very enjoyable two days with him and his sons Tim
and Ray. We all had a great time - the kids got on well and spent
all our money and Neil and I had time to plan somethng new for you
lot to discuss on a regular basis!

-- So did that count as the first 'official' meeting of the
Australasian branch of the Fan Club? ;-)

Neil

Sheesh! I forgot to do the two paragraph synopsis of chapter 2 for
the lazy readers. Oh well. Too bad.

--Helen


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:

>
> I'll load it up from work today.
>
> Michael
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
> > >Speaking of 'the book' are we ready for the next chapter yet?
> >
> > -- Oops! forgot to add: Because if we are I have an illustration
> > ready to upload to the files folder for it.
> >
> > Neil

Too bad? I think you had better get on with it about NOW!!!

You like Peppermint Crisps....EARN THEM!!! ;)

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: ape_mom [sand_hill_school@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 8:55 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Boulle's Novel (Planet of the Apes - or Monkey
Planet?) Chapter 2



Sheesh! I forgot to do the two paragraph synopsis of chapter 2 for
the lazy readers. Oh well. Too bad.

--Helen


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:

>
> I'll load it up from work today.
>
> Michael
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
> > >Speaking of 'the book' are we ready for the next chapter yet?
> >
> > -- Oops! forgot to add: Because if we are I have an illustration
> > ready to upload to the files folder for it.
> >
> > Neil







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I suppose it does! We'll have to rope Robert and Patrick in to the next
one...and I think John Cox says he would like to join the guys in the UK
Branch in their next gathering....he apparently has access to ducks....John
R - he reckons you can explain that one??? ;)

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil [nfoster@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 8:02 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Breaking News



--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> I hope Neil made it back from Surfer's Paradise in one piece - I

have just spent a very enjoyable two days with him and his sons Tim
and Ray. We all had a great time - the kids got on well and spent
all our money and Neil and I had time to plan somethng new for you
lot to discuss on a regular basis!

-- So did that count as the first 'official' meeting of the
Australasian branch of the Fan Club? ;-)

Neil







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Well, I guess we petition Fox regularly, so how about we petition Dave?!

I for one believe Apedom is FAR more important than any promotion and things
wouldn't be the same without Dave around. Anyone else here care to join in
petitioning Dave to hire an assistant to help him with all that dull "real
life" stuff?

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil [nfoster@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 7:23 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Dave's colourised BtB

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> He also mentioned he'll be reducing his involvement in Simian
Scrolls and a few other things, is that an accurate recollection
Neil?

-- That's what I was told.

Neil







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Please tell us more Greg...and thanks for keeping this a surprise! It
really is a treat to just SEE the end result of a project and not to be
involved in every step of it.

I got a very SIMILAR feeling when I received pages of Beware the Beast from
Neil, then again when Dave added the text, but this is incredible to just
see something so wonderful when it is completed!

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil [nfoster@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 7:27 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: new addition at the tv website

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
> Thanks, Neil. I was trying to live up to the standards you set on
the illustrations that accompanied the 'lost episodes' article in
Scrolls, which was part of the inspiration for doing this set. (The
other part was Rittenhouse's use of the classic Topps format for
their Heston set.)

-- Well like I said Greg, fantastic!
Did you come up with the story first and then fit the pictures to it
or was it the other way round?

Neil







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THREE

The feeling of awe produced by such a sight cannot be described: a star,
which only yesterday was a brilliant speck among the multitude of anonymous
specks in the firmament, showed up more and more clearly against the black
background, assumed a dimension in space, appearing first of all as a
sparkling nut, then swelled in" size, at the same time becoming more
definite in colour, so that it resembled an orange, and finally fell into
place in the cosmos with the same apparent diameter as our own familiar
daytime star. A new sun was born for us, a reddish sun, like ours when it
sets, the attraction and warmth of which we could already feel.

Our speed was then very much reduced. We drew still closer to Betelgeuse,
until its apparent diameter far exceeded that of all the heavenly bodies
hitherto seen, which made a tremendous impression on us. Antelle gave some
instructions to the robots and we started gravitating around the supergiant.
Then the scientist took out his astronomical instruments and began his
observations.

It was not long before he discovered the existence of four planets whose
dimensions he rapidly determined, together with their distances from the
central star. One of these, two away from Betelgeuse, was moving on a
trajectory parallel to ours. It was about the same size as Earth; it
possessed an atmosphere containing oxygen and nitrogen; it revolved around
Beetelgeuse at a distance equivalent to thirty times the space between the
Sun and Earth, receiving a radiation comparable to that received by our
planet, thanks to the size of the supergiant combined with its relatively
low temperature.

We decided to make it our first objective. After fresh instructions were
given to the robots, our craft was quickly put into orbit around it. Then,
with engines switched off, we observed this new world at our leisure. The
telescope revealed its oceans and continents.

The craft was not equipped for a landing, but this eventuality had been
provided for. We had at our disposal three much smaller rocket machines,
which we called launches. It was in one of these that we embarked, taking
with us some measuring instruments and Hector, the chimpanzee, who was
equipped as we were with a diving suit and had been trained in its use. As
for our ship, we simply let it revolve around the planet. It was safer there
than a liner lying at anchor in a harbour, and we knew it would not drift an
inch from its orbit.

Landing on a planet of this kind was an easy operation with our launch. As
soon as we had penetrated the thick layers of the atmosphere, Professor
Antelle took some samples of the outside air and analysed them. He found
they had the same composition as the air on Earth at a similar altitude. I
hardly had time to ponder on this miraculous coincidence, for the ground was
approaching rapidly; we were no more than fifty miles or so above it. Since
the robots carried out every manoeuvre, I had nothing to do but press my
face to the porthole and watch this unknown world rising toward me, my brain
reeling with the excitement of discovery.

The planet bore a strange resemblance to Earth. This impression became
clearer every second. I could now discern the outline of the continents with
my naked eye. The atmosphere was bright, slightly tinged with a pale green
colour verging from time to time on yellow, rather like our sky in Provence
at sunset. The ocean was light blue, also with green tinges. The form of the
coast line was very different from anything I had seen at home, though my
feverish eye, conditioned by so many analogies, insisted wildly on
discerning similarities even there. But there the resemblance ended. Nothing
in the planet's topography recalled either our Old or New Worlds.

Nothing? Come now! On the contrary, the essential factor! The planet was
inhabited. We flew over a town: a fairly big town, from which roads
radiated, bordered with trees and with vehicles moving along them. I had
time to make out the general architecture: broad streets and white houses
with long straight lines.

But we were to land a long way farther off. Our flight swept us first over
cultivated fields, then over a thick russet coloured forest that called to
mind our equatorial jungle. We were now at a very low altitude. We caught
sight of a fairly large clearing occupying the top of a plateau, the ground
all around it being rather broken. Our leader decided to attempt a landing
there and gave his last orders to the robots. A system of retrorockets came
into action. We 'hovered motionless for a moment or two above the clearing,
like a gull spotting a fish.

Then, two years after leaving our Earth, we came down gently and landed
without a jolt in the middle of the plateau, on green grass reminiscent of
our meadows in Normandy.








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<> I for one believe Apedom is FAR more important than any promotion
and things wouldn't be the same without Dave around. Anyone else
here care to join in petitioning Dave to hire an assistant to help
him with all that dull "real life" stuff?

>
> Michael

++Well said, Michael. I completely agree about our Mr. Ballard. He
just got that promo recently. Maybe when the dust settles, who
knows, maybe he'll know more about how much time he has to lend us
peons?:) In all fairness, though, I'm sure he'll give us all he's
got - he always does.
Kass

>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Neil [nfoster@h...]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 7:23 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Dave's colourised BtB
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> > He also mentioned he'll be reducing his involvement in Simian
> Scrolls and a few other things, is that an accurate recollection
> Neil?
>
> -- That's what I was told.
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Yes, agreed Kass, but if somebody is feeling unappreciated or that their
involvement is not required, they tend to re-prioritise things.

So I guess this is a chance for people to either voice their appreciation or
wish Dave good luck.....or both.....

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Kassidy Rae [valwp@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 10:16 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Dave's colourised BtB


<> I for one believe Apedom is FAR more important than any promotion
and things wouldn't be the same without Dave around. Anyone else
here care to join in petitioning Dave to hire an assistant to help
him with all that dull "real life" stuff?

>
> Michael

++Well said, Michael. I completely agree about our Mr. Ballard. He
just got that promo recently. Maybe when the dust settles, who
knows, maybe he'll know more about how much time he has to lend us
peons?:) In all fairness, though, I'm sure he'll give us all he's
got - he always does.
Kass







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Yes Sir! I shall post it in the morning. :))

--Helen


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> Too bad? I think you had better get on with it about NOW!!!
>
> You like Peppermint Crisps....EARN THEM!!! ;)
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ape_mom [sand_hill_school@y...]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 8:55 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Boulle's Novel (Planet of the Apes - or Monkey
> Planet?) Chapter 2
>
>
>
> Sheesh! I forgot to do the two paragraph synopsis of chapter 2 for
> the lazy readers. Oh well. Too bad.
>
> --Helen
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty"

<Michael.Whitty@d...>

> wrote:
> >
> > I'll load it up from work today.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
> > > >Speaking of 'the book' are we ready for the next chapter yet?
> > >
> > > -- Oops! forgot to add: Because if we are I have an

illustration

> > > ready to upload to the files folder for it.
> > >
> > > Neil
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I thought we were all just supposed to give up that dull "real life"
stuff!

--Helen


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
Anyone else here care to join in

> petitioning Dave to hire an assistant to help him with all that

dull "real

> life" stuff?
>
> Michael
>

OK!

Do you think I should send candy bars to EVERYBODY in the group?

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: ape_mom [sand_hill_school@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 11:00 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Helen's Novel - or at least SUMMARY OF Chapter 2



Yes Sir! I shall post it in the morning. :))

--Helen


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> Too bad? I think you had better get on with it about NOW!!!
>
> You like Peppermint Crisps....EARN THEM!!! ;)
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ape_mom [sand_hill_school@y...]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 8:55 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Boulle's Novel (Planet of the Apes - or Monkey
> Planet?) Chapter 2
>
>
>
> Sheesh! I forgot to do the two paragraph synopsis of chapter 2 for
> the lazy readers. Oh well. Too bad.
>
> --Helen
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty"

<Michael.Whitty@d...>

> wrote:
> >
> > I'll load it up from work today.
> >
> > Michael







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No - Dave's "special"! ;)

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: ape_mom [sand_hill_school@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 11:03 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Dave's colourised BtB



I thought we were all just supposed to give up that dull "real life"
stuff!

--Helen


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
Anyone else here care to join in

> petitioning Dave to hire an assistant to help him with all that

dull "real

> life" stuff?
>
> Michael







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I'm waiting for Greg to give me the OK and I'll send Rittenhouse the link.

Hey, with half the work already done they might even produce these!

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: ron kenner [brindlepit2002@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 5:02 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: new addition at the tv website


these are really great!
i love the text and puzzle on the back.
any plans to print these?
(it would be a nice experience for younger fans (like myself) to be able to
buy brand new cards...a wax wrapper would be cool! and some chewing gum!)

Neil <nfoster@...> wrote:

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Kassidy Rae <valwp@y...> wrote:
>
> http://planetoftheapestv.150m.com/cards.html"
<http://planetoftheapestv.150m.com/cards.html">
>
> thanks to Greg Plonowski (when AREN'T we thanking this guy?;)-
seriously, a really really nice addition to the site. 2nd season
trading cards.
yep, you read it right. Enjoy 'em.

-- These are so very, very good it's frightening!

Time for plan B! I love it!! The wrapper looks great.

You did all this Greg? these cards are just fantastic.

Neil








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How did that story go Dave?

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave B [smugster@...]
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 3:55 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: POTA: Killer Instinct


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:

> This is a message from my 10-year-old son after reading the first two
> chapters:

Dear... (sorry, you don't give your name)

My apologies for the bad language. When I wrote the story it never occurred
to me that it might be read by youngsters. I think it would be wise if you
didn't
read any further but I promise I will bear a younger audience in mind from
now on.

I'll tell you what - my 11 year old son has promised to write me a POTA
story
this coming weekend. If he does I'll send you the result - how does that
sound?

On the first page they were not trying to hurt each other, they were just
training and yes, Galen is a chimpanzee, just like in the TV show.

Now, I'll tell you a secret but you have to promise not to tell anyone... I
don't
like 'Killer instinct' either.

God bless,
Dave B







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Hello Fellow Ape Fans
I posted this on a previous Ape site and thought I better post it on
this one as well.
I contacted Side Show about a possible Planet of the Apes TV series
action figure release and they replied that they would consider it
only if they knew there was an interest in them and according to how
well the movie figures sold. (I read where they have plans on doing
figures on all 5 film But only Dr. Zaius is the only one that is sold
out at the moment so it doens't look good.)
They said if people woukld email them request to do a line based on
the TV show, it would be a better way to convince the "powers that
make these decesions.
Come on fellow ape fans, fill their email box requesting a release of
the TV series figures. And while you are there, help out the cause
and buy a Planet of the Apes figure; they look impressive

Sure - glad to help!

What's their email address?

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: luke_the_drifter52 [JLKINSER1970@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 11:30 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Side Show TV figures



Hello Fellow Ape Fans
I posted this on a previous Ape site and thought I better post it on
this one as well.
I contacted Side Show about a possible Planet of the Apes TV series
action figure release and they replied that they would consider it
only if they knew there was an interest in them and according to how
well the movie figures sold. (I read where they have plans on doing
figures on all 5 film But only Dr. Zaius is the only one that is sold
out at the moment so it doens't look good.)
They said if people woukld email them request to do a line based on
the TV show, it would be a better way to convince the "powers that
make these decesions.
Come on fellow ape fans, fill their email box requesting a release of
the TV series figures. And while you are there, help out the cause
and buy a Planet of the Apes figure; they look impressive









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Elaine,

This is great!

I had to rip it from the files and share it with the group - too many lazy
people never go to the files!

Michael

A lone gorilla
Full of loathing
For humans
Struggles through wasteland
Deserts and forests

When he is pursued
By humans
Fear takes over his being
Running to nowhere

He shoots at the beasts
But more keep coming
A long line of
Neverending humans

But he persists
With his struggle
For survival

For the time
Of the gorilla
Has arrived

And Gideon
Continues his journey
Because their fate
Is in his hands
Along with the
Destiny of simians.

Who PAID for it? ;)

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil [nfoster@...]
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 12:29 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: BTB poster

A lot of thanks have to be given to Greg Plonowski and Dave Ballard
who both helped put the thing together.

Neil








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I actually did the screen captures first, and then constructed the story to fit the pictures that were available. I assumed that for the first set that Fox supplied Topps with images from three episodes (or Topps sent a photographer to the set during the filming of three episodes) and Topps had to build the set from those images. I decided to do something similar and did screen captures from the episodes, taking care to avoid the guest stars and making sure I had only images of the 5 main actors except for anonymous gorillas and High Council members.

When I laid out the story, I wanted to avoid any of the story elements from the first set, such as one of the astronauts getting captured (and decided to have Galen captured instead). I also didn't want Urko to come off looking foolish or ineffectual at the end, so it couldn't be a story about him nearly capturing the fugitives only to have them slip through his grasp at the end.

Ultimately, it was an image I didn't even use that supplied the key to the whole story. It was when Burke and Virdon are outside the temple in The Liberator and Pete realizes that they can use the charcoal to make filters to protect them from the poison gas. I remembered that charcoal is one of the main ingredients in gunpowder. From there I just had to work out the reasons for both our heroes and Zaius and Urko to be at the gunpowder mill at the same time and narrowly avoid meeting up with each other.

Greg P.

Neil <nfoster@...> wrote:
-- Well like I said Greg, fantastic!
Did you come up with the story first and then fit the pictures to it
or was it the other way round?

Neil



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I thought I would put this poem back up, it was on the previous group and I
didn't know where it went. Elaine


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I hope everybody saw the cover of the current Ape Chronicles on the home
page!

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/
<http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/>

This issue contains an interview with all the creators and the cover is an
original by Mr Foster - very cool cover Neil....but why is there a well
endowed female being held by Gideon? ;)

Terry - how do we get a copy of Ape Chronicles? Can we subscribe to get
more copies that one?

Michael






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Thanks Elaine.

You had it on the POTADG Fan Fiction Group.

Of course, James' little exercise would not have been complete had he left
this and other sattelite groups of the DG intact so he chose instead to
destroy those groups. Nice one James.

Luckily Neil was smart enough to see that coming and he created some new
groups for Fan Fic, archives and Photos etc. To find these groups, go to
the DG home page:

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/
<http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/>

Scroll down so you are parallel with Gideon's fist and you'll see the
links...please feel free to join these sattelite groups.

Michael



-----Original Message-----
From: taebokitti@... [taebokitti@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 2:05 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Poem for Gideon


I thought I would put this poem back up, it was on the previous group and I
didn't know where it went. Elaine







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If you want to interpret it that way, go ahead, but you are quite wrong.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Hunter Goatley [goathunter@...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 1:18 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: planet of the apes cartoons

> -- Well maybe he just had a change of heart when decent copies
> became available to him and wanted to share them with fellow Apes
> fans who have been waiting to see them?

Could be, but he was the one talking about only distributing them to
PotaDG members and not others. It was my reply about not placing
limits on who could receive them that prompted him to withdraw from
redistributing what I eventually come up with.

Hunter







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I have a VHS player hooked up to a DVD Recorder...so it takes me as long as
each episode is.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: ron kenner [brindlepit2002@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 12:36 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] planet of the apes cartoons


hi-
thanks for update.
for those who dont know: converting analog video signal to digital DVD
signal is very time-consuming.
it is much different than simply dubbing a tape by going deck to deck.
so, hunter, we are greatful for your efforts.

Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:

> i have a fairly decent copy on vhs.
> if the "official" project falls through, i guess i could be the back-up.

As I posted last week, I'm actively working on capturing and
converting now. I didn't intend for this project to take so long, but
I also didn't anticipate several work weeks of 70+ hours. I hope to
have the whole thing completed by the end of October, and several
people volunteered to help with distribution. I haven't seen the
copies Michael has, but I did get tapes (and DVDs) from five other
sources, and most of them were barely watchable. I have an excellent
(as in, much better than any others I've seen, including some bought
off eBay) source that I'm capturing now, thanks to Mike Rogers.

More info when I have it.

Hunter








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This is really boring but you are taking me completely out of context and
twisting what I say.

I was actually fairly well OVER James' tactics by this and rather than
fuming and exchanging blows I was GUARANTEED by David (owner of the group
James is "leasing") that he would keep tight control over James.

What I was pissed off about when I wrote this was that the pota group was
not being mutually supportive as promised, but was instead using tools for
recruitment purposes and exclusivity. So no, I was not using a project you
are working on to get back at him, I was saying that after having to twist
Neil's arm to allow non-DG members to see the final chapter of Beware the
Beast, my good intentions were being spat on and that I might want to think
about how I distributed MY allocation of the "Return" DVD that LOTS of
people helped to make and that you were saying you would provide me ONE copy
of.

I hope that makes things a touch clearer for you.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Hunter Goatley [goathunter@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 1:06 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: planet of the apes cartoons

> No, if you re-read my posts you will realise I was simply trying
> tomdetermine if they WOULD be used as recruiting tools.

From 22-AUG-2004:

As it stands, these will be available to everyone on all POTA groups
and members of the fan club.

That's if my understanding of all these groups as joining together in
peace and encouraging the promotion of all as a community is correct -
I have been lead to believe (because of the posts I have sent that
were deleted at the pota group) that I might be wrong, and the pota
group might actually be trying to be competitive AGAINST the other
groups. If that's the case then I'll rethink exclusivity on the discs
and many other projects.

It was the whole "as it stands" and "rethink exclusivity" thing I am
commenting on. You were pissed off that James left the group, and you
were trying to use a project that *I* am working on to get back at
him.







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Much like the DG internal website.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Hunter Goatley [goathunter@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 1:31 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: planet of the apes cartoons

> And you and Neil for BTB (that currently features on Hunter's site),
> and all the people who did the Power Records etc....

Yes, others, including Michael, have contributed to the stuff on my
site. I've never tried to claim otherwise. I've actually done very
little of what's there, I just host it.

Hunter







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Lost forever? ;)

I don't think so - just time consuming I'd say!

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: ron kenner [brindlepit2002@...]
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 5:12 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: planet of the apes cartoons




i am wondering if there is a link between these DVD discs and virdon's disc


go vegetarian!







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-----Original Message-----
From: Hunter Goatley [goathunter@...]
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 1:49 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: planet of the apes cartoons




Funny how Whitty was planning to charge (only to recoup costs) when he
was going to redistribute what I produce
[Whitty, Michael]

What YOU produce is the end product of a LOT of fans getting together to
provide a good copy of "Return" to be burned to DVD. How dare you accuse me
of charging ANYTHING. Dozens of people in this group know I do not charge
one cent - if they receive the goods and then wish to send me the cost of
postage then they do so. This is a really stupid and nasty claim and I
challenge ANYONE to say I have ever done anything else.

, and then he didn't want any part of the redistribution
[Whitty, Michael]

With all your negativity, no, I would rather let others sacrifice their own
time and money to distribute these. That's my perrogative. However, I now
have some PAL DVDs that I have offered. Is that a problem Hunter? Rory
also offered "Battle" DVDs at the same time you did - was THAT a problem?

, but is now offering what he has for free.
[Whitty, Michael]

Like I said - it was ALWAYS free. Some have chosen to pay me the POSTAGE
and on the whole I have lost money and PLENTY of it.

Anyway, what's your POINT here? What are you accusing me of.....do you
claim I am profiteering? What is the accusation?

Michael








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Rory,

How is it that you "NTSC"ise a DVD?

I have PAL copies here - is it a pain in the ass process or rather straight
forward?

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil [nfoster@...]
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 7:40 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: planet of the apes cartoons

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ask me" <klb8740215@y...> wrote:
> Hi does anyone have the planet of the apes cartoons on tape or
dvd i havent seen them in years and would like to get a copy of all
the cartoons thanks kenny

-- Hi Kenny. Just the other week Mike Whitty was offering FREE
copies of Return on DVD for anyone who wanted them. The only thing
is that you need to be able to play / watch PAL format DVDs, oh, and
he is on holidays at the moment so you probably won't hear from him
on the group for a week or so. Just keep a look out for when
he 'returns' and if anyone wants copies you can organise it with him
when he gets back.

Neil







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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
group.

File : /Monkey Planet illustrations/monkey planet03.jpg
Uploaded by : munkeyman63au <nfoster@...>
Description : we came down gently and landed

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Monkey%20Planet%20illustrations/monkey%20planet03.jpg

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

Regards,

munkeyman63au <nfoster@...>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> THREE

> we came down gently and landed without a jolt

Okay a picture for chapter 3 is in the folder (Monkey Planet
illustrations).

Neil

The following PotaDG poll is now closed. Here are the
final results:


POLL QUESTION: I'm interested in POTA fan
demographics. I'd like to know who we
are, who is visiting the group, and who
is reading the posts. This poll will
only be valid IF most people respond
and IF those who respond don't lie!! We
received a fair number of responses to
the first question, so I am following
with another question. Your answers
will be completely private. No names
will be associated with any answer.
Question: What level of education have
you achieved?


CHOICES AND RESULTS
- Up to 8th grade, 0 votes, 0.00%
- 8th to 12th but didn't graduate. (Dropped out / left school), 1 votes, 5.00%
- Graduated High School (completed 12th or received GED), 4 votes, 20.00%
- Educated in the military, 1 votes, 5.00%
- 2 years college (or associates degree) , 1 votes, 5.00%
- College (BA / BS degree), 7 votes, 35.00%
- More education than any of those previous choices mention, 3 votes, 15.00%
- Never went to school, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Trade school / apprenticeship, 2 votes, 10.00%
- Some college, no degree, 1 votes, 5.00%



For more information about this group, please visit
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG

For help with Yahoo! Groups, please visit
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/

The following PotaDG poll is now closed. Here are the
final results:


POLL QUESTION: I'm interested in POTA fan
demographics. I'd like to know who we
are, who is visiting the group, and who
is reading the posts. This poll will
only be valid IF most people respond
and IF those who respond don't lie!! We
received a fair number of responses to
the first question, so I am following
with another question. Your answers
will be completely private. No names
will be associated with any answer.
This question may seem lame, but it's
easy: Are you male or female?

CHOICES AND RESULTS
- male, 17 votes, 73.91%
- female, 6 votes, 26.09%



For more information about this group, please visit
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG

For help with Yahoo! Groups, please visit
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:

> Yes, agreed Kass, but if somebody is feeling unappreciated or that their
> involvement is not required, they tend to re-prioritise things.

Maybe that's true of some people but it sure doesn't apply to me.

> So I guess this is a chance for people to either voice their appreciation or
> wish Dave good luck.....or both.....

There's no need to single me out, I'm just doing what many others are doing -
Kass, Hunter, Greg etc... too many to mention.

>I for one believe Apedom is FAR more important than any promotion.

Tell that to my Bank manager and then my mortgage lender :0)

>and things wouldn't be the same without Dave around.

It seems the rumours of my death have been greatly exaggerated - I AM
around, just not as active as I once was.

Anyone else here care to join in petitioning Dave to hire an assistant to help
him with all that dull "real life" stuff?

Already done, his name is Richard Bradley and you'll be seeing his
handiwork in the near future - he's already re-touched a COF cover for Tim.

>Well said, Michael. I completely agree about our Mr. Ballard. He
> just got that promo recently. Maybe when the dust settles, who
> knows, maybe he'll know more about how much time he has to lend us
> peons?:) In all fairness, though, I'm sure he'll give us all he's
> got - he always does.

Thanks Kass, the dust HAS settled, I'm still standing and things are looking
extremely good. I now even have a lunchbreak most days.

Dave B

Neil:

Another wonderful illustration (although my favorite is still the one from the first chapter).

Can't wait until we get to see your interpretation of the ape city.

Greg P.

Neil <nfoster@...> wrote:


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
wrote:

> THREE

> we came down gently and landed without a jolt

Okay a picture for chapter 3 is in the folder (Monkey Planet
illustrations).

Neil








Yahoo! Groups Links









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NOOO!!! This used to be the time you spent colouring BTB!!!! ;)

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster@b...> wrote:
I now even have a lunchbreak most days.
>
> Dave B

you can order 1 lone issue or as many as you want of ape chronicles
all details listed at
www.hoknes.com/apechronicles39.htm

Hey, Michael!

About the summary of chapter 2...

Ah...

How about tomorrow? Busy day.

Public apologies for a broken promise.

--Helen

Michael!

:O

I thought you already had!!

--Helen


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> OK!
>
> Do you think I should send candy bars to EVERYBODY in the group?
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ape_mom [sand_hill_school@y...]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 11:00 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Helen's Novel - or at least SUMMARY OF

Chapter 2

>
>
>
> Yes Sir! I shall post it in the morning. :))
>
> --Helen
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
> <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> > Too bad? I think you had better get on with it about NOW!!!
> >
> > You like Peppermint Crisps....EARN THEM!!! ;)
> >
> > Michael
> >

No - just PROMISED that I WOULD!!! ;)

Your next Peppermint Crisp is looking dubious!

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: ape_mom [sand_hill_school@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 9:49 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Helen's Novel - or at least SUMMARY OF Chapter 2



Michael!

:O

I thought you already had!!

--Helen


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> OK!
>
> Do you think I should send candy bars to EVERYBODY in the group?
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ape_mom [sand_hill_school@y...]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 11:00 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Helen's Novel - or at least SUMMARY OF

Chapter 2

>
>
>
> Yes Sir! I shall post it in the morning. :))
>
> --Helen
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
> <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> > Too bad? I think you had better get on with it about NOW!!!
> >
> > You like Peppermint Crisps....EARN THEM!!! ;)
> >
> > Michael








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Is that ship "Thunderbirds" inspired Neil? ;)

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil [nfoster@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 5:56 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Boulle's Novel (Planet of the Apes - or Monkey
Planet?) Chapter 3



--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> THREE

> we came down gently and landed without a jolt

Okay a picture for chapter 3 is in the folder (Monkey Planet
illustrations).

Neil







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Did you solve who owns the signature on that cover?

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave B [smugster@...]
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 9:28 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Dave's colourised BtB





Anyone else here care to join in petitioning Dave to hire an assistant to
help
him with all that dull "real life" stuff?

Already done, his name is Richard Bradley and you'll be seeing his
handiwork in the near future - he's already re-touched a COF cover for Tim.
Dave B







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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> Is that ship "Thunderbirds" inspired Neil? ;)

-- Actually it was partially based on a German WW2 bomber! But most
of it just came from somewhere in my weird brain.
I did watch an awful lot of Thunderbirds episodes when I was a tiny
little kid though!

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> Who PAID for it? ;)
>
> Michael

-- Oops! I always forget to thank someone, this time it was you!
Sorry

Neil

Never mind, I'm used to it.

I have decided now that I am going to either write or illustrate a comic
strip so I don't get overlooked next time! ;)

Do you think I should write or draw?

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil [nfoster@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 11:16 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: BTB poster



--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> Who PAID for it? ;)
>
> Michael

-- Oops! I always forget to thank someone, this time it was you!
Sorry

Neil







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OK,

This is VERY strange.

Somebody has just changed the homepage picture.....could somebody please
explain this?

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/
<http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/>

Michael






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Here is a link to a "Treehouse" on eBay that has a set of 5 figures
included.

This is a bit of a "Holy Grail" for Mego and/or POTA collectors!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem
<http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=727&item=5925400086&
rd=1> &category=727&item=5925400086&rd=1

Michael






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I can omly speak for myself, but I have to say what I can't believe is that
people WOULDN'T take it seriously.

Simian Scrolls is a POTA Fan Magazine that reports thing (sometimes amazing
new things we know nothing about) to fans. Example - the article on the
mobile POTA show that toured the UK.

While I found it ALARMING that SS was claiming there were unreleased
episodes of a second series, and I approached it with CYNICISM, I knew that
a magazine of such integrity wouldn't run such an article without some
reveal at the end saying "this was a gag". I was quite wrong, and yes it
did leave me wondering "what other stories have they just made up?" and "How
stupid do I look now to everyone on the group who knows that this is a gag -
gee, that probably blows MY credibility". Couple that with my endless,
unanswered emails to the people who bring you SS (it was over a week until
Neil finally broke the news to me - only because he thought I needed to
know, not because I thought to ask him) - even though I am supposed to be a
distributor and I wore hundreds of dollars to get Fan Club Members a free
issue to promote SS - and you might understand my reaction. That and the
fact that many peole were hostile to me, and some still are, because they
thought I was in on the wind up.

So next time I read an exclusive in SS that there is a new movie in the
making, I'll just sit back and think "are they at it again?". It sure has
ruined the credibility of the magazine for me, and to now go close to
dismissing me and all the other people who were offended - almost insulted -
well that's just poor form guys. It has little to do with wanting to
believe, and MUCH to do with hoping you can TRUST. I would hope I can TRUST
what I read in SS and that if something is a gag, it is made obvious.

Difference between this and Greg P's cards? The cards DO exist in some
form.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Whitty [Michael.Whitty@...]
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 3:39 PM
To: Michael.Whitty@...
Subject: Fwd: Re: Re What would be REALLY REALLY Cool

>I still can't believe some people took it seriously.

I was talking about this only last night. I think the deciding factor
was *wanting* to believe. That desire, to wish it could only be
true was, in some cases, enough to tip the scales of
acceptance.

Dave

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , taebokitti@a... wrote:

> I thought I would put this poem back up, it was on the previous

group and I didn't know where it went.

-- Elaine, your poem is at the 'new' Fan Fic site
(http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDiscussionGroupfanfiction/f
iles/) I moved it from the 'old' Fan Fic group before that group
was 're-directed' to a different Yahoo site.

If you join the DG Fan Fic site you will be able to access the files
section and see that it is safe and sound.

Great poem by the way!

Neil

OUCH!!!


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> No - just PROMISED that I WOULD!!! ;)
>
> Your next Peppermint Crisp is looking dubious!
>
> Michael
>

Well, come on! Nothing's FREE!

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:

>
> OUCH!!!
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
> <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> > No - just PROMISED that I WOULD!!! ;)
> >
> > Your next Peppermint Crisp is looking dubious!
> >
> > Michael
> >

Ok, Michael. Pay up!


In chapter two we meet Ulysse Merou, a man with a family living in a
self-sufficient spaceship. He begins by telling us the story of his
experiences in a voyage with two other men, Professor Antelle and
Arthur Levain, to the distant and super gigantic star known to some
as Betelgeuse.

Professor Antelle, we learn, is a wealthy scientist, perhaps somewhat
lacking in social graces and without a lot of hope for humanity, who
puts his entire fortune on the line to pull together this mission.
The ship is equipped with a lovely vegetable garden and Antelle even
thought to plant flowers. Ulysse Merou, a mere journalist, has been
brought along by Antelle to document the mission and perhaps to be a
bit of a diversion for the professor. Arthur Levaine is a young
physician. In addition to the crew, there are birds and butterflies
and a young, well-trained chimp named Hector.

The Professor's decision to travel to Betelgeuse rather than a
closer star seems to be a good one. They accelerate for a year
(traveling at the speed of light minus epsilon) and decelerate for a
year, reaching their destination in barely more than two years –
about the time it would have taken to reach a closer star if
traveling at a lesser speed. (This is Patrick's turf, so I will
leave that to him.) The flight goes off without a hitch and the men
soon see Betelgeuse and, we will learn in Chapter 3, its planets.







--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:

>
> Well, come on! Nothing's FREE!
>
> Michael
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > OUCH!!!
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
> > <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> > > No - just PROMISED that I WOULD!!! ;)
> > >
> > > Your next Peppermint Crisp is looking dubious!
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >

I wonder if anybody here would care to join me in the Yahoo group:

kingkongtribute@yahoogroups.com

I've been there awhile, but this group needs help, especially by other apes
fanatics. There's also a bunch of buttheads there that refuse to acknowledge
any sexual symbolism in the original KING KONG (1933). Now you know how we
POTA fans love to discuss the allegory in POTA, well some KING KONG fans need to
get hip. So, with a remake of the monkey classic just around the corner we
POTA fans could tell these guys maybe they shouldn't get too excited.

Join if you like talking about KONG.

-- Rory


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I love King Kong - the original AND the remake. I have not watched the
remake through ADULT eyes, but when it was released, it was the ONLY KK I
had seen.

I'll certainly join the group Rory and I imagine there are a lot of us here
whose love of POTA extended to KK and even Lancelot Link! ;)

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Haristas@... [Haristas@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 8:44 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com;
POTA_Phenomenon@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Kong anyone?


I wonder if anybody here would care to join me in the Yahoo group:

kingkongtribute@yahoogroups.com

I've been there awhile, but this group needs help, especially by other apes
fanatics. There's also a bunch of buttheads there that refuse to
acknowledge
any sexual symbolism in the original KING KONG (1933). Now you know how we
POTA fans love to discuss the allegory in POTA, well some KING KONG fans
need to
get hip. So, with a remake of the monkey classic just around the corner we
POTA fans could tell these guys maybe they shouldn't get too excited.

Join if you like talking about KONG.

-- Rory








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Dear all at the group,

I am now a member and am just saying Hi to everyone in Apedom.

grotowski666

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In a message dated 10/6/04 7:09:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
johnbkirtley@... writes:

> Dear all at the group,
>
> I am now a member and am just saying Hi to everyone in Apedom.
>
> grotowski666
>
>

Hi, I'm Rory. Been a POTA fan since 1968. Tell us your history of POTA
fanaticism.



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Hey John - I see you got the invitation!

Welcome to you and all new members.

You have joined the most active Planet of the Apes Yahoo! group.

MAKE SURE YOU GO TO THE HOMEPAGE AND READ THE NEW PLANET OF THE APES COMIC
BOOK - BEWARE THE BEAST!!!

Go to the homepage, scroll down to around the middle of the page and click
on the link underneath the colourful logo....this will take you to the
internal site where you can go to earlier chapters by clicking on the menu
at top of the images.

Make sure you also check out the following groups:

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/Pota_Phenomenon/

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/apechronicles/

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/friends_and_fugitives/

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Yahoo!Groups Notification [notify@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 9:00 AM
To: PotaDG-owner@yahoogroups.com
Subject: New PotaDG member





Hello,

This is an automated email message to let you know that
grotowski666 joined your PotaDG group.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> Hey John - I see you got the invitation!>
> Welcome to you and all new members.
> You have joined the most active Planet of the Apes Yahoo! group.
> MAKE SURE YOU GO TO THE HOMEPAGE AND READ THE NEW PLANET OF THE

APES COMIC BOOK - BEWARE THE BEAST!!!

> Go to the homepage, scroll down to around the middle of the page

and click on the link underneath the colourful logo....this will
take you to the internal site where you can go to earlier chapters
by clicking on the menu at top of the images.


-- Also don't forget to join our supplemental groups-

First up there is the DG Archives group:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDiscussionGrouparchives/
This group was created to store old posts from the group which have
been deleted from the main site. we have to do this periodically to
free up space as Yahoo does not allot much space to the groups
anymore.
As this group is so active we tend to fill up very quickly and
instead of losing old posts forever we like to keep a copy of them
all. They can be found in the Files section listed by month and
year .


There is also the DG Fan Fiction group where members can place, in
the group's Files section, their Fan Fiction stories, poems etc. to
be enjoyed by all:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDiscussionGroupfanfiction/


Finally there's the Photos group:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDiscussionGroupphotos/
Where photos are very occasionally moved to save space on the main
DG group

All the sites can be easily accessed via the links on each one's
Home Page.

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: Haristas@... [Haristas@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 8:44 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com; POTA_Phenomenon@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Kong anyone?

I wonder if anybody here would care to join me in the Yahoo group:

kingkongtribute@yahoogroups.com

I've been there awhile, but this group needs help, especially by other apes
fanatics.  There's also a bunch of buttheads there that refuse to acknowledge
any sexual symbolism in the original KING KONG (1933).  Now you know how we
POTA fans love to discuss the allegory in POTA, well some KING KONG fans need to
get hip.  So, with a remake of the monkey classic just around the corner we
POTA fans could tell these guys maybe they shouldn't get too excited.

Join if you like talking about KONG.

-- Rory

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-----Original Message-----
From: ape_mom [sand_hill_school@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 2:03 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Helen's Novel - or at least SUMMARY OF Chapter 2

Ok, Michael.  Pay up!


In chapter two we meet Ulysse Merou, a man with a family living in a
self-sufficient spaceship.  He begins by telling us the story of his
experiences in a voyage with two other men, Professor Antelle and
Arthur Levain, to the distant and super gigantic star known to some
as Betelgeuse.

Professor Antelle, we learn, is a wealthy scientist, perhaps somewhat
lacking in social graces and without a lot of hope for humanity, who
puts his entire fortune on the line to pull together this mission.  
The ship is equipped with a lovely vegetable garden and Antelle even
thought to plant flowers.  Ulysse Merou, a mere journalist, has been
brought along by Antelle to document the mission and perhaps to be a
bit of a diversion for the professor.   Arthur Levaine is a young
physician.  In addition to the crew, there are birds and butterflies
and a young, well-trained chimp named Hector.

The Professor's decision to travel to Betelgeuse rather than a
closer star seems to be a good one.  They accelerate for a year
(traveling at the speed of light minus epsilon) and decelerate for a
year, reaching their destination in barely more than two years -
about the time it would have taken to reach a closer star if
traveling at a lesser speed.   (This is Patrick's turf, so I will
leave that to him.)  The flight goes off without a hitch and the men
soon see Betelgeuse and, we will learn in Chapter 3, its planets.

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No clue, Michael. Wish I did. I don't know what that THING is on
the right - looks like a R2D2, ape version? And what about that lamp
on the left, are we going into the wardrobe and into Narnia?

Somebody has GOT to a: have a better guess than this, and b: SEE
better (getting some reading glasses in two weeks)

Kass

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-----Original Message-----
From: Kassidy Rae [valwp@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 11:46 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Something BIG for Planet of the Apes

No clue, Michael.  Wish I did.  I don't know what that THING is on
the right - looks like a R2D2, ape version?  And what about that lamp
on the left, are we going into the wardrobe and into Narnia? 

Somebody has GOT to a: have a better guess than this, and b: SEE
better (getting some reading glasses in two weeks)

Kass

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Well then is it a new comic beyond the tv series?
K

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I can only assume it is a new comic that will finally address what
happens to Burke and Virdon beyond the all to quickly canceled Planet
of the Apes T.V. series. At least I hope that's what it is. Judging
by the job done on Beware the Beast I would love to see it!

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-----Original Message-----
From: Kassidy Rae [valwp@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 12:11 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Something BIG for Kass on the Planet of the Apes

Well then is it a new comic beyond the tv series?
K

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Hi. I'm guessing it's a new comic book/graphic novel project
involving Foster. Concerning the object on the right in the
drawing, it sort of looks like a camera tripod, so maybe it's a
documentary project? Can't wait to find out!

-Jimmy

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-----Original Message-----
From: John [DrZaiusDavis@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 12:58 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Beyond the Planet of the Apes

I can only assume it is a new comic that will finally address what
happens to Burke and Virdon beyond the all to quickly canceled Planet
of the Apes T.V. series. At least I hope that's what it is. Judging
by the job done on Beware the Beast I would love to see it!

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-----Original Message-----
From: veil_of_evil [veil_of_evil@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 3:36 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Beyond the Planet of the Apes

Hi. I'm guessing it's a new comic book/graphic novel project
involving Foster. Concerning the object on the right in the
drawing, it sort of looks like a camera tripod, so maybe it's a
documentary project? Can't wait to find out!

-Jimmy

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My guess would be that Beyond the Planet of the Apes is going past
what we already know about PotA and giving us more of a view of their
world, a more in depth view of the link between all the stories and
to clear up questions regarding endings of stories previously untold,
Burke & Virdon for starters.

All I can say is if it is anything like Beware the Beast it has to be
good. Love your work, keep it up.

Stephen

Hey Terry - I should have said the answer needs to go to the GROUP!
I'll lock your answer in!

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Hoknes [terryhoknes@...]
Sent: Thursday, 7 October 2004 11:57 AM
To: Michael Whitty
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Something BIG for Planet of the Apes.

here is my wild guess
a brand new original POTA story that takes places in or past the
forbidden
zone ?

.html.html Oh!  That Aussie who owns Fox!  Can't fellow Aussie Michael Whitty get this guy to do anything with APES?

Murdoch Gives (Very) Green Light to Fox

Saying that News Corp's Fox Entertainment Group is "on a great streak," News Corp Chairman Rupert Murdoch said Tuesday that the company plans to increase production at its 20th Century Fox film studio and its Fox Searchlight Unit. The studio, which released 11 films during it last fiscal year, has been given the go-ahead to turn out 20-25 films in the current fiscal year, while Searchlight, which released 8, will raise its total to 11. Murdoch indicated that his decision to increase production was based largely on the performance of The Day After Tomorrow, which was responsible for $540 million in ticket sales worldwide, and I, Robot, which pulled in more than $314 million.

News Corp May Buy Up Fox Entertainment Shares
News Corp is likely to buy out the 18 percent of Fox Entertainment Group that it doesn't already own, its chairman, Rupert Murdoch , said Tuesday. He added that at Fox's current market price, about $5 billion, "Fox would be very cheap." However, Murdoch told the Goldman Sachs investors conference that News Corp is "not in a hurry" to accomplish the buy-out. It may be hinged, analysts said, to the success -- or failure -- of Murdoch's ability to win approval from Australian investors to move News Corp's corporate headquarters from Australia to the U.S.




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Hmmmm....

I'm thinkin'....

The "PLANET OF THE APES" part of the logo looks like it comes
directly from the POTA TV DVD set, which might -- just MIGHT, mind
you -- be a covert hint that this "Beyond the POTA" work concerns the
ultimate fates of Burke/Virdon/Galen, etc.

The sun, too, is reminiscent of the famous POTA TV opening credits
images, where the gorilla is holding his rifle up, the sun at his
back.

Then there's the lamppost/streetsign on the left... and what looks
like it kinda/sorta/might just be a... a parking meter? What IS that
damned thing on the right!? Is its covering there intended to make it
some sorta "scarecrow"-like thing?

Below the "E" in "APES", on the horizon, it looks like there's some
kind of explosion happening, sending debris up into the air. What's
up with that? Hmmm....

Then there's the caption: "COME TO SOMWHERE [spelling!] YOU'VE NEVER
BEEN BEFORE... COME WITH US AS WE GO... BEYOND THE PLANET OF THE
APES". Well, where have we NOT been before? Does the [misspelled]
word "somewhere" indicate that this story is set in a PLACE we've
never been/seen before? Or could it also refer to a TIME we've never
experienced? Hmmm....

We see Human Civilization ruins in this pic, so I'm guessing
that "BEYOND" has nothing to do with Boulle's original novel.

Thus, this adventure is probably set in either the Movie or TV series
universe(s), depending on whether or not you think the 2 can be
reconciled (like I do) or that they're "alternate" universes.

So... is it related to the TV show, or not? If it IS about
Virdon/Burke/Galen (etc), and it IS "somewhere" we've never been
before, then could this story be set somewhere else on post-nuked
Earth, somewhere the Fugitives escaped to, perhaps? Might not that
lamppost represent a remnant of ancient human yet non-American
civilization? I.e.: could this be set, say, in England? We've never
been there before, unless the comic "APE CITY" (which was set in
Europe) also had stuff happening in Britain; it's been so long since
I read 'em, that I can't remember offhand.

As much as my gut is telling me that this is probably something about
the post-TV show fates of Virdon/Burke/Galen... I'm gonna go out on a
limb (like Cornelius Jr.!) and guess that it is NOT.

So... what do I guess it IS about?

The phrase/title "PLANET OF THE APES" represents "a world turned
upside down", where Apes rule and Humans are either enslaved or
dehumanized to the point of animality. In the 1968 film of "PLANET"
and its sequel "BENEATH", that world is destroyed by the detonation
of the Doomsday Bomb. Those who argue for a circular timeline (like
me) would say that the planet Earth is no more, from 3955 onwards
(or, 3978 if you want to argue for the date given in "PLANET").

But there are those (like Rory, for one) who favor the notion that
Caesar did indeed manage to CHANGE THE FUTURE by his actions at the
end of "BATTLE"... and I remember reading some time back a post on
one of these Yahoo groups where it is said that Taylor -- when his
ship gets back to Earth, a world whose "destiny" had been CHANGED by
Caesar's actions -- will arrive to find a world where talking Apes
live in friendship and at peace with the humans descended from the
MacDonald-led group that talked of having their own destiny.

Thus... the "somewhere" we've "never been before" could well refer to
a locale on Earth we HAVE seen before in the pre-"changed" timeline,
yet have NOT seen in a post-"changed" timeline. This COULD be about
Taylor/Landon/Dodge encountering a peaceful community of talking Apes
AND Humans... AND, possibly, Mutants too. Thus, Zira and Cornelius
might very well be there, with there having been no "terrible secret"
guarded by Zaius and his ilk -- the entire community having been told
the tale of Caesar (from the "BATTLE" beginning-and-end scenes).

We've never seen the Movie "Ape City" circa 3955/3978 except in the
first 2 movies, the "pre-changed" timeline setting; we've yet to see
what that same setting would be like -- what
Zira/Cornelius/Zaius/Julius/Ursus/Honorius/Mendez XXVI/Albina/etc.
would be like in a "post-changed" timeline setting.

So... that's my guess. This "BEYOND THE PLANET OF THE APES" will, I'm
guessing, take us BEYOND the situation Taylor initially found (the
first 2 films) and show us what Taylor will come to find after
Caesar's "divine intervention" supposedly CHANGED it to be a better
destiny than Doomsday.

As Zira said about Cornelius' "evolution" theory, mine might be the
most BRILLIANT hypothesis--

"--But I'm probably WRONG!"

If I'm RIGHT, though, I get that "ash-can" edition of "BEWARE THE
BEAST"...

Fingers crossed...

Patrick Michael Tilton
EARTH-TIME 10-07-2004

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> Hi All.
>
> There is something BIG happening on the Planet of the Apes

Discussion Group!

>
> Go to the home page and look at the new home page picture (also

attached below - but may not get through).

>
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG>
>
> Then post on the group what you think "Beyond the Planet of the

Apes" actually is.

>
> The CLOSEST accurate response will win the PRINTED version of the

Official International Planet of the Apes Fan Club's Flagship, BEWARE
THE BEAST (in two parts), containing an additional 7 pages never
before seen by people not directly involved in the project! These
are a special "ash-can" edition that have been printed for
distribution to potential publishers and they are indeed a rare and
worthy collectible.

>
> Winner will be announced in 24 hours - so don't drag it!
>
> Michael Whitty
> POTADG Group Owner

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:

>
> Ok, Michael. Pay up!
>
>
> In chapter two we meet Ulysse Merou, a man with a family living in

a self-sufficient spaceship. He begins by telling us the story of
his experiences in a voyage with two other men, Professor Antelle and
Arthur Levain, to the distant and super gigantic star known to some
as Betelgeuse.

>
> Professor Antelle, we learn, is a wealthy scientist, perhaps

somewhat lacking in social graces and without a lot of hope for
humanity, who puts his entire fortune on the line to pull together
this mission.

> The ship is equipped with a lovely vegetable garden and Antelle

even thought to plant flowers. Ulysse Merou, a mere journalist, has
been brought along by Antelle to document the mission and perhaps to
be a bit of a diversion for the professor.

>>>>>Arthur Levaine is a young physician.<<<<<

In addition to the crew, there are birds and butterflies and a young,
well-trained chimp named Hector.

>
> The Professor's decision to travel to Betelgeuse rather than a

closer star seems to be a good one. They accelerate for a year
(traveling at the speed of light minus epsilon) and decelerate for a
year, reaching their destination in barely more than two years –
about the time it would have taken to reach a closer star if
traveling at a lesser speed. (This is Patrick's turf, so I will
leave that to him.) The flight goes off without a hitch and the men
soon see Betelgeuse and, we will learn in Chapter 3, its planets.

*** Just one (minor?) quibble...

Arthur Levain was -- according to the original French text of
Boulle's novel -- "un jeune physicien de grand avenir", which Xan
Fielding translated as "a young PHYSICIAN with a great future".
However, this is a MIS-TRANSLATION of the French word "physicien".
The word for "physician" in French is "medecin" [with an acute accent
mark above the first "e"]; the French word "physicien" translates to
English accurately as "physicist". Arthur Levain was NOT a physician
or doctor of medicine, as Xan Fielding's (mis-)translation implies;
he was a PHYSICIST. He wasn't on the journey to oversee Antelle's
health concerns (etc), he was there (probably) to study PHYSICS, the
physics of travelling through Space at the speed of light minus
epsilon.

In studying foreign languages, I've come across the term "false
friends", which refers to words in a foreign language that LOOK like
a word in your native tongue yet have different meanings. "Physicien"
LOOKS like "physician", and that threw Xan Fielding off. He should've
looked up EVERY word in a French-English/English-French dictionary;
then he would've known to translate it correctly as "physicist"
instead. His "flub" gives the wrong impression of what kind of person
Arthur Levain was.

Not that Levain does much in Boulle's novel other than DIE during the
hunt! But what the hey!

One other thing, regarding "Patrick's turf" (i.e. the velocity of
Antelle's ship stuff). It isn't a "lesser speed" that would've gotten
them to a closer star than Betelgeuse -- it's the SAME speed, the TOP
speed of "light minus epsilon" (where "epsilon" represents about "one
thousand millionth" of a degree just shy of the speed of light. Since
lightspeed is 299,792,458 meters per second [exactly, according to
the international standards of weights & measures], then the speed of
Antelle's ship would be, oh, somewhere around 299,792,457.999999999
meters per second, or 0.000000001 meters per second less than the
unattainable speed of light.

What "Ape Mom" meant to say is that Antelle's ship could've travelled
to a nearer star system than Betelgeuse by spending less time at its
top coasting speed: it takes the same amount of time to ACCELERATE TO
that top speed and also to DECELERATE FROM that top speed, but the
time spent BETWEEN the acceleration-and-deceleration phases is what
is variable. Coast along at top speed for only a few minutes, and you
get to Proxima Centauri; but coast along for a few HOURS instead, and
you get all the way to Betelgeuse. Coast along for a few DAYS at that
top speed, and you could fly to another Galaxy. The total time
(i.e. "SHIP-TIME") experienced by the voyagers is still roughly 2
years: 1 year to Accelerate, 1 year to Decelerate, and either a few
MINUTES in-between, or a few HOURS instead. It's still only a total
duration of just over 2 "SHIP-TIME" years.

Relative to "EARTH-TIME", of course...

Patrick Michael Tilton
EARTH-TIME 10-07-2004

Yeah. What he said.



I knew that.







--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "patrickmichaeltilton"
<patrickmichaeltilton@y...> wrote:

>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Ok, Michael. Pay up!
> >
> >
> > In chapter two we meet Ulysse Merou, a man with a family living

in

> a self-sufficient spaceship. He begins by telling us the story of
> his experiences in a voyage with two other men, Professor Antelle

and

> Arthur Levain, to the distant and super gigantic star known to some
> as Betelgeuse.
> >
> > Professor Antelle, we learn, is a wealthy scientist, perhaps
> somewhat lacking in social graces and without a lot of hope for
> humanity, who puts his entire fortune on the line to pull together
> this mission.
> > The ship is equipped with a lovely vegetable garden and Antelle
> even thought to plant flowers. Ulysse Merou, a mere journalist,

has

> been brought along by Antelle to document the mission and perhaps

to

> be a bit of a diversion for the professor.
>
> >>>>>Arthur Levaine is a young physician.<<<<<
>
> In addition to the crew, there are birds and butterflies and a

young,

> well-trained chimp named Hector.
> >
> > The Professor's decision to travel to Betelgeuse rather than a
> closer star seems to be a good one. They accelerate for a year
> (traveling at the speed of light minus epsilon) and decelerate for

a

> year, reaching their destination in barely more than two years –
> about the time it would have taken to reach a closer star if
> traveling at a lesser speed. (This is Patrick's turf, so I will
> leave that to him.) The flight goes off without a hitch and the

men

> soon see Betelgeuse and, we will learn in Chapter 3, its planets.
>
> *** Just one (minor?) quibble...
>
> Arthur Levain was -- according to the original French text of
> Boulle's novel -- "un jeune physicien de grand avenir", which Xan
> Fielding translated as "a young PHYSICIAN with a great future".
> However, this is a MIS-TRANSLATION of the French word "physicien".
> The word for "physician" in French is "medecin" [with an acute

accent

> mark above the first "e"]; the French word "physicien" translates

to

> English accurately as "physicist". Arthur Levain was NOT a

physician

> or doctor of medicine, as Xan Fielding's (mis-)translation implies;
> he was a PHYSICIST. He wasn't on the journey to oversee Antelle's
> health concerns (etc), he was there (probably) to study PHYSICS,

the

> physics of travelling through Space at the speed of light minus
> epsilon.
>
> In studying foreign languages, I've come across the term "false
> friends", which refers to words in a foreign language that LOOK

like

> a word in your native tongue yet have different

meanings. "Physicien"

> LOOKS like "physician", and that threw Xan Fielding off. He

should've

> looked up EVERY word in a French-English/English-French dictionary;
> then he would've known to translate it correctly as "physicist"
> instead. His "flub" gives the wrong impression of what kind of

person

> Arthur Levain was.
>
> Not that Levain does much in Boulle's novel other than DIE during

the

> hunt! But what the hey!
>
> One other thing, regarding "Patrick's turf" (i.e. the velocity of
> Antelle's ship stuff). It isn't a "lesser speed" that would've

gotten

> them to a closer star than Betelgeuse -- it's the SAME speed, the

TOP

> speed of "light minus epsilon" (where "epsilon" represents

about "one

> thousand millionth" of a degree just shy of the speed of light.

Since

> lightspeed is 299,792,458 meters per second [exactly, according to
> the international standards of weights & measures], then the speed

of

> Antelle's ship would be, oh, somewhere around 299,792,457.999999999
> meters per second, or 0.000000001 meters per second less than the
> unattainable speed of light.
>
> What "Ape Mom" meant to say is that Antelle's ship could've

travelled

> to a nearer star system than Betelgeuse by spending less time at

its

> top coasting speed: it takes the same amount of time to ACCELERATE

TO

> that top speed and also to DECELERATE FROM that top speed, but the
> time spent BETWEEN the acceleration-and-deceleration phases is what
> is variable. Coast along at top speed for only a few minutes, and

you

> get to Proxima Centauri; but coast along for a few HOURS instead,

and

> you get all the way to Betelgeuse. Coast along for a few DAYS at

that

> top speed, and you could fly to another Galaxy. The total time
> (i.e. "SHIP-TIME") experienced by the voyagers is still roughly 2
> years: 1 year to Accelerate, 1 year to Decelerate, and either a few
> MINUTES in-between, or a few HOURS instead. It's still only a total
> duration of just over 2 "SHIP-TIME" years.
>
> Relative to "EARTH-TIME", of course...
>
> Patrick Michael Tilton
> EARTH-TIME 10-07-2004

I love King Kong - the original AND the remake.  I have not watched the
remake through ADULT eyes, but when it was released, it was the ONLY KK I
had seen.

I'll certainly join the group Rory and I imagine there are a lot of us here
whose love of POTA extended to KK and even Lancelot Link!  ;)

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Haristas@... [Haristas@...]
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 8:44 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com;
POTA_Phenomenon@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Kong anyone?


I wonder if anybody here would care to join me in the Yahoo group:

kingkongtribute@yahoogroups.com

I've been there awhile, but this group needs help, especially by other apes
fanatics.  There's also a bunch of buttheads there that refuse to
acknowledge
any sexual symbolism in the original KING KONG (1933).  Now you know how we
POTA fans love to discuss the allegory in POTA, well some KING KONG fans
need to
get hip.  So, with a remake of the monkey classic just around the corner we
POTA fans could tell these guys maybe they shouldn't get too excited.

Join if you like talking about KONG.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

go vegetarian!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> Then post on the group what you think "Beyond the Planet of the

Apes" actually is.

-- Hmmm... is it a new colouring book maybe?

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "patrickmichaeltilton"
<patrickmichaeltilton@y...> wrote:

> Then there's the caption: "COME TO SOMWHERE [spelling!] YOU'VE

NEVER BEEN BEFORE... COME WITH US AS WE GO... BEYOND THE PLANET OF
THE APES".

-- Hey Patrick, since you pointed out the spelling mistake someone
has fixed it up!! This is weird.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@y...> wrote:

>I don't know what that THING is on the right - looks like a R2D2,

ape version?

-- Yeah, what is that thing!?!

Neil

My guess is also going to be adventures set elsewhere in the world, but
Patrick beat me to posting the specifics. At least I think that's what
Patrick said, I think he covered every other possibility in that last essay
as well.

Anyway, if I had to name a country I'd say the UK. But then again, maybe
Australia so it makes it easier for Neil to get some landscapes to refer to!

Alan

"Neil" <nfoster@... > wrote:

>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@y...> wrote:
> >I don't know what that THING is on the right - looks like a R2D2,
> ape version?
>
> -- Yeah, what is that thing!?!

I've got it. It's the front part of a bike.

Alan

OK, most of the good (probable) answers have already been sent so I'm
gonna stake my ground with this answer.

"Beyond the Planet of the Apes" is:
The PRINTED version of the Official International Planet of the
Apes Fan Club's Flagship, BEWARE THE BEAST (in two parts),
containing an additional 7 pages never before seen by people not
directly involved in the project!

Has that for a cut'n'paste answer!

The image appears to be "Foster" art, but I'm not sure if it's Neil or
that new 10 year old Foster who made their debut on the back cover of
Scrolls #9. ;)

Dario

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:

>
> There is something BIG happening on the Planet of the Apes

Discussion Group!

>

I got a private email about 10 days ago saying "don't be surprise if I
am off the air for a while". I responded a couple of days later, but
did not get a reply, which probably means at least her electricity or
internet is down.

Those of us who pray might want to spare one, and those of us who don't
might wish to spare some thoughts.

Michael

> ----------
> From: James[SMTP:JAMESA1102@...]
> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 5:42:21 AM
> To: friends_and_fugitives@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pota_tv] Mez
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>
>
>

Has anyone heard from Mez lately? I wondering if she survived the
latest group of storms in Florida.

Oh boy, someone is going to LOVE that one! ;)

Michael

>
> ----------
> From: Dario[SMTP:EV001@...]
> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 7:48:30 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Something BIG for Planet of the Apes
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

The image appears to be "Foster" art, but I'm not sure if it's Neil or
that new 10 year old Foster who made their debut on the back cover of
Scrolls #9. ;)

Dario

The thing on the right looks like it could be a
motorcycle buried in the sand...or something with
handlebars.....My guess is that it is a new comic from
the makers of BTB but I can't get specific.......

Tim

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-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Parati [apefan23@...]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 8:48 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Something BIG for Planet of the Apes

The thing on the right looks like it could be a
motorcycle buried in the sand...or something with
handlebars.....My guess is that it is a new comic from
the makers of BTB but I can't get specific.......

Tim

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I got a private email about 10 days ago saying "don't be surprise if I
am off the air for a while".  I responded a couple of days later, but
did not get a reply, which probably means at least her electricity or
internet is down.

Those of us who pray might want to spare one, and those of us who don't
might wish to spare some thoughts.

Michael



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> From:       James[SMTP:JAMESA1102@...]
> Sent:       Friday, October 08, 2004 5:42:21 AM
> To:       friends_and_fugitives@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:       [pota_tv] Mez
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Has anyone heard from Mez lately? I wondering if she survived the
latest group of storms in Florida.

go vegetarian!

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-----Original Message-----
From: ron kenner [brindlepit2002@...]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 9:34 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] [pota_tv] Mez

what part of florida does she live in ?

 

south?

central?

Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:

I got a private email about 10 days ago saying "don't be surprise if I
am off the air for a while".  I responded a couple of days later, but
did not get a reply, which probably means at least her electricity or
internet is down.

Those of us who pray might want to spare one, and those of us who don't
might wish to spare some thoughts.

Michael

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Not sure, but I do know she evacuated twice (at least) before this last storm.

 

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: ron kenner [brindlepit2002@...]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 9:34 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] [pota_tv] Mez

what part of florida does she live in ?

 

south?

central?

Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:

I got a private email about 10 days ago saying "don't be surprise if I
am off the air for a while".  I responded a couple of days later, but
did not get a reply, which probably means at least her electricity or
internet is down.

Those of us who pray might want to spare one, and those of us who don't
might wish to spare some thoughts.

Michael

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-----Original Message-----
From: ron kenner [brindlepit2002@...]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 9:45 AM
To: planetoftheapescollecting@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [planetoftheapescollecting] RE: [PotaDG] Re: tree house

thanks for great link, whitty!

how much do you think it will sell for?

also, i am puzzled that the only open figure is the human astronaut...

rob

oosa

 Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...> wrote:

Here is a link to a "Treehouse" on eBay that has a set of 5 figures included.

 

This is a bit of a "Holy Grail" for Mego and/or POTA collectors!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=727&item=5925400086&rd=1

Michael 

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-----Original Message-----
From: ron kenner [brindlepit2002@...]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 5:19 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Kong anyone?

and the sequel?

with linda hamilton?

"Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...> wrote:

I love King Kong - the original AND the remake.  I have not watched the
remake through ADULT eyes, but when it was released, it was the ONLY KK I
had seen.

I'll certainly join the group Rory and I imagine there are a lot of us here
whose love of POTA extended to KK and even Lancelot Link!  ;)

Michael

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