>Yeah - that is a bit strange! Have you been playing with your

>
> ----------
> From: Neil[SMTP:NFOSTER@...]
> Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 8:26:22 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: POTADG's original comic series rocks!
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>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "mendezxxv" <rvt@t...> wrote:
>Does Neil have any work published professionally? It is comparable
to what Marvel and DC produce - it is that good. His sense of layout
and flow is simply top knotch story telling.

-- Thanks very much for the high praise Robert. I have had a little
work published professionally but not a lot of comic work apart from
in an Aussie comic a few years ago called Captain Koala
( http://www.koalacomics.com.au/home.htm)
<http://www.koalacomics.com.au/home.htm)> plus currently some
illustrations in a couple of US horror magazines (Black petals & the
Corpse) plus more in upcoming issues.

>Michael has a pretty deft touch in the writing department too and
works extremely well with Neil. I like how the writing doesn't just
retell what the art is portraying but complements it - quite a duo
here.

-- Yeah he does. I like the way 'Within' is headed and I hope to get
the next chapter up today. I must point out though that 'Beast' was
written by the great Dave Ballard, probably THE current Apes story
teller!

> POTA is ripe with possibilities for exploring new stories behind
the POTA. (Except for ones involving the ghost of Breck...)

-- It sure is! There's a whole big 'planet' out there to explore!

> An idea for a story I would love to see Michael and Neil run with:
Remember in Beneath the POTA there was mention of 11 gorilla scouts
who disappeared in the Phantom Zone and the 12th returned with his
brain scrambled by mutant interrogation?

-- Speaking of Dave B, he wrote a story called Scouts that was in a
previous issue of Simian Scrolls which was about this very subject!
I illustrated it for him.

> Anyway I would love to see Neil's depiction of a mutant - maybe a
story idea for another day?

-- Now where did I put that portrait of Whitty that I was working
on... ;-)

Neil

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, PotaDG@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
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Get on and read Chapter 6 of "Within" people and tell us what you think.

There has GOT to be plenty to talk about at this point!

Michael

>
> Hi Robert!
>
> I was only reading your article on the Aussie Marvels yesterday!
>
> I wonder if you would care to share it with the group?
>
> Hey - I have some DVDs here for you too!
>
> Oh - and may I just remind you too that Dave Ballard wrote BTB.
> Dave is the Author of some of the best Fan Fics I have ever read,
> and I do believe one of these was on the topic of scouts lost in

> Forbidden Zone and this appeared in Simian Scrolls, and was
> Illustrated by Neil!
>
> As for Neil drawing a mutant, I do beleive he has a self-portrait
> SOMEWHERE! ;)
>
> Michael
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "mendezxxv" <rvt@t...> wrote:
> >
> > Neil and Michael
> >
> > As a lost-cause comic nut I just want to let you know that your
> > original comic series "Beware The Beast" and "Within the POTA"
> makes
> > the 1990 Adventure comic series look like a Yahoo fan site
> > production. (My apologies to anyone in this group who may have
> > worked for Adventure - I absolutely love Yahoo fan site
> productions
> > by the way!)
> >
> > Does Neil have any work published professionally? It is

> > to what Marvel and DC produce - it is that good. His sense of
> layout and flow is simply top knotch story telling. Michael has a
> pretty deft touch in the writing department too and works

> well with Neil. I like how the writing doesn't just retell what

> art is portraying but complements it - quite a duo here.
> >
> > POTA is ripe with possibilities for exploring new stories behind
> the POTA. (Except for ones involving the ghost of Breck...)
> >
> > An idea for a story I would love to see Michael and Neil run

> > Remember in Beneath the POTA there was mention of 11 gorilla
> scouts who disappeared in the Phantom Zone and the 12th returned
> with his brain scrambled by mutant interrogation? At first I

> that this was where "Beware The Beast" was headed with Gideon
> finding Brent's ship in the Phantom Zone. Anyway I would love to

> Neil's depiction of a mutant - maybe a story idea for another day?
> >
> > Robt

> Looks like he is holding a bag of groceries. Elaine

> www.filmscoremonthly.com is currently running a poll asking what

> > From:Steve
> The Heston set did okay. We are working on a behind the scenes set
> right now, which will come with a Linda Harrison autograph card.

> I just put Spanish posters of Conquest and Beneath in the Foreign

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> > Looks like he is holding a bag of groceries. Elaine
>
> -- Damn I thought it was his lunch and we had finally found out
what
> happened to that baby in Beware the Beast! ;-)
>
> Neil

>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Tim Parati
> <apefan23@y...> wrote:
> > I just put Spanish posters of Conquest and Beneath
> in the Foreign
> posters folder..
>
> Thanks Tim, it is always interesting to see how they
> chose to
> portray these things in other countries.
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Kassidy Rae" <valwp@y...> wrote:
>
> I really enjoyed this first chapter.
>
> Kassidy

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, PotaDG@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
>
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>
> You can access this file at the URL:
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> Hey, I've really enjoyed your characterization of Pete, who all

> I really enjoyed this first chapter.

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Whitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 12:59 PM

Subject: [PotaDG] Brian's Work with Don Post

You wanted more – here’s this from Brian.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian [afryt4u@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 3 November 2004 1:34 AM
To: Michael Whitty
Subject: Re: FW: [PotaDG] POTA questions

Hi Mike,

I worked as a designer for Don Post's 3'd facility for about 3 months in 1983.
It was a magical place to be that just wreaked of history.

The studio space myself and the other artists worked at was part of Post's warehouse storage facility several blocks away from the main factory.  the main factory was huge as they were still manufacturing all of their masks here in the USA at the time.  Post later downsized and shipped most of it's production overseas.

I had come aboard shortly after Post's effects team had finished running all of the pressure suits for Delaurentis' DUNE film, so those molds and suits peppered the studio where I was.  Also, they were storing a lifesize KING KONG torso That I beleive Jim Danforth had been in charge of constructing.  It was for the 50th anniversary of KING KONG and was used at ceremonies at the Chinese Theater in Hollywood , where KONG had premiered back in 1933.  The anniversary bust was fitted with grey hair to reflect KONG's age.  It was very cool to walk past that monstrosity every morning upoan arriving at work.


My duties while at Post varied.  I started off doing illustration and design work for them.  Had my own  office/drawing room (not bad for a 20 year old kid)  but I really wanted to be out where the action was.

They had an artisit out in the lab sculpting heads and figures for the Universal Studios tour of the A-Team characters.  The A-Team was a pretty popular TV series at the time starring Dirk benedict, Mr. T, and George Peppard.  Those figures were very cool.

They were also prototyping the Gremlins masks, Last Star Fighter,  and the American Werewolf in London line.  The sculpts were all there waiting for final approval before molding and production.  I also vaguely remember Island Of Dr. Moreau masks as well, but I could be mistaken.

Once I did get out of the drawing room and into the lab I worked on specialty projects.  Tv commercials, and such. I sculpted, molded, ran parts, and painted.  It was fun.  We did some masks for the rock band TOTO's ISOLATION album cover (which I don't think were ever used). Funny thing too, 8 years later I wass dating one of the band members ex-wives, but that's a whole other story...

There were three principle artists working the POST lab; Jim Leonard (who later went on to running Rick Baker's mold shop for decades), Barry Crane and fine sculptor and mold maker (who's spent many years at Stan Winston's) and who I still work with today when he's available, and Jim Negichi (sp) who kinda was in charge of the lab.  I felt like the new kid, and these three grown ups were my mentors.  They'd have clay fights and get into all sorts of mischeif, but we still got the work done.  And great hours too!  7:30Am to 3:30PM with a 1/2 hour lunch everyday.  So when I'd get out of work, I'd still have a whole afternoon and evening to LIVE!  Not like today.

There was always something cool to look at at Post as well.  I remember, the bathrooms were stocked with nothing but old  Famous Monsters magazines.  So cool!


Anyway, back to work.  Ugh!  Gimmeee those 7:30 to 3:30 days of yor!


Bri

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> I'm really enjoying the strip. The artwork on both of those comics

> Neil!!!!!!!!
>
> 0 & 0
> ' _
>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Neil" <nfoster@...>
To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 2:21 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Return to the Planet of the Apes cartoon


>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "BrAIn" <palitoy@m...> wrote:
> > I find the show somewhat slow, but I enjoy that it's telling a
> story and sticking to it.
>
> -- Yeah, I like that about it too and much like the live action TV
> show it would have been good to see where the story went after the
> initial run.
> I'm sure that I have read somewhere that they did actually have
> plans for a second series of the cartoon. Is this just a false
> memory on my part?
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>

Where do the gorilla's get the leather that their uniforms are made out of? 'Cause if they are against killing cows and stuff how did they make their uniforms or other things that are made out of animal parts? 

Also, I've been wondering lately.. What was Caesar's childhood like? Growing up with only Armando would have been dificult. Did the other people in the circus know about him or not? Personally, I think it would make an interesting story, if you think about it.
 
Kasey

----- Original Message -----

From: Kassidy Rae

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 11:39 AM

Subject: [PotaDG] re: Van Helsing on the POTA

Yes,  maybe the movie stunk, but it was a drool fest for some of us  women.  
Elaine


What's this?  Treating men as sex objects?
Not very PC.  I'm all for it, as long as what's
sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

 

+++To acknowledge that there was a good-looking man on the screen, even considering the term 'drool fest' isn't PC?  Where'd you come up with that one? 

 

I for one don't have a problem with you saying someone has a good figure or they're good looking.  The problem is when people get crudely offensive. Use your common sense and forget these labels.

Kass

 

---

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 3:36 PM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Unrest on the POTA

In a message dated 11/3/04 6:22:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

I want to keep this an UNmoderated group

So, everyone censor yourself, is that what you're saying?  Be your own moderator?

PHOOEY!

-- Rory

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2004 4:55 PM

Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Rory on the POTA

In a message dated 11/3/04 7:12:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Then say sorry Rory and she'll forgive you I bet!

Michael

Sorry for what?  What started all this.  The word "Boob"?

-- Rory

>
> ----------
> From: LordTZer0@...[SMTP:LORDTZER0@...]
> Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 8:29:48 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Comic
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

----- Original Message -----

From: mlccougar@...

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 12:02 AM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Of Leather and other questions...

In a message dated 11/6/2004 11:45:59 PM Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

Why would they be against killing cows?

They see the human's killing of cattle as savage, in "The Good Seeds" anyway... ("They've been known to kill cows, just for the meat." and "They burn the flesh and eat it, you've heard tell of that...") Since they see it that way, I can't see an Ape killing cows just for the leather.. They probably worked them to death...

----- Original Message -----

From: LordTZer0@...

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 1:10 AM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Of Leather and other questions...

In a message dated 11/7/2004 2:06:41 AM Central Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

They've been known to kill cows, just for the meat." and "They burn the flesh and eat it

 

This is funny to me, because since all this it's know that all Chimps are carnivorous.  Gorillas, Orangutans and Bonobos aren't, but ALL Chimps are.  They use twigs to fish for termites, but none of them are above bashing in a baby baboons skull when they crarve meat.

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Kassidy Rae

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 7:17 AM

Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Van Helsing on the POTA

<You tell 'em, Sugar Cane Toes!

+++Now Poodle, don't go giving out our nicknames.  Where have you been?

Kass

---

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: pota@yahoogroups.com ; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ; POTA_Phenomenon@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 7:58 AM

Subject: [PotaDG] FSM Goldsmith Poll

At www.filmscoremonthly.com the Jerry Goldsmith scored THE SAND PEBBLES is still beating out PLANET OF THE APES 160 to 134.

So far 592 people have voted.  Are there anymore here that can put PLANET out in front?

-- Rory

> Issues 2 and 3 of the Marvel UK Apes series have been posted on

>
> Here's the link: www.goatley.com/pota/
>
> Greg P.

----- Original Message -----
From: "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@...>
To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 8:58 AM
Subject: [PotaDG] Happy Birthday, Jeff!


>
>
> Congratulations on another birthday anniversary, Jeff. Live long and
> prosper.
>
>
>
> --Helen
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Hunter Goatley" <goathunter@...>
To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 7:51 AM
Subject: [Planet of the Apes] New TV ad featuring Dr. Zaius


>
>
> Intel and Microsoft have a new TV ad promoting Windows Media Center XP
> that includes an Alien and Dr. Zaius. I saw the commercial last
> night. In fact, Dr. Zaius is prominently featured on the web site.
>
> The web site address is www.digitaljoy.com
>
> On the front page, you'll see Dr. Zaius standing behind the couch. If
> you click on the "Press Play for More" button, you'll see Dr. Zaius
> featured.
>
> If you pull down the menu "Experience the Joy", you'll see "See How It
> Works". Select that, and you'll see Zaius on the couch. Select the
> button beside him (labeled "Learn, Work, and Play on a Powerful PC"),
> and you'll get a Flash video of Dr. Zaius using the PC to look up
> info on human brains and receiving instant messages from Zira and
> Cornelius.
>
> If any of you have problems accessing the site or don't have Flash
> installed, drop me a line and I'll email you screen grabs I did
> showing Dr. Zaius.
>
> Pretty cool. I haven't found the commercial itself online (yet).
>
> Hunter
> ------
> Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/
> <goathunter@...> http://www.goatley.com/hunter/
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Be sure to visit the Group's Internal Website
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm for Original POTA One
Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and much, much
more...
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> For those into self-torture, here's the poster for Tim Burton's
version of "Willy Wonka". His first big-budget, reimagination since
POTA.
> http://www.darkhorizons.com/news04/wonka.php - - - Jeff

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hunter Goatley" <goathunter@g...>
> To: <pota@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 7:51 AM
> Subject: [Planet of the Apes] New TV ad featuring Dr. Zaius
>
>
> >
> >
> > Intel and Microsoft have a new TV ad promoting Windows Media
Center XP
> > that includes an Alien and Dr. Zaius. I saw the commercial last
> > night. In fact, Dr. Zaius is prominently featured on the web
site.
> >
> > The web site address is www.digitaljoy.com
> >
> > On the front page, you'll see Dr. Zaius standing behind the
couch. If
> > you click on the "Press Play for More" button, you'll see Dr.
Zaius
> > featured.
> >
> > If you pull down the menu "Experience the Joy", you'll see "See
How It
> > Works". Select that, and you'll see Zaius on the couch. Select
the
> > button beside him (labeled "Learn, Work, and Play on a Powerful
PC"),
> > and you'll get a Flash video of Dr. Zaius using the PC to look up
> > info on human brains and receiving instant messages from Zira and
> > Cornelius.
> >
> > If any of you have problems accessing the site or don't have Flash
> > installed, drop me a line and I'll email you screen grabs I did
> > showing Dr. Zaius.
> >
> > Pretty cool. I haven't found the commercial itself online (yet).
> >
> > Hunter
> > ------
> > Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/
> > <goathunter@G...> http://www.goatley.com/hunter/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Be sure to visit the Group's Internal Website
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/MainPage.htm for Original
POTA One
> Sheets & Lobby Cards, Trailers & Rare Videos, Trading Cards and
much, much
> more...
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

>
> ----------
> From: ape_mom[SMTP:SAND_HILL_SCHOOL@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 3:58:23 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Happy Birthday, Jeff!
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

>
> ----------
> From: ape_mom[SMTP:SAND_HILL_SCHOOL@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 3:58:23 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
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> Auto forwarded by a Rule
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>
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> From: ape_mom[SMTP:SAND_HILL_SCHOOL@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 3:58:23 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Happy Birthday, Jeff!
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
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>
> ----------
> From: ape_mom[SMTP:SAND_HILL_SCHOOL@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 3:58:23 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Happy Birthday, Jeff!
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
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>
> ----------
> From: ape_mom[SMTP:SAND_HILL_SCHOOL@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 3:58:23 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Happy Birthday, Jeff!
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>

> C'mon - who wants to guess?

> I have posted my Newton Comics article, from the Melbourne

> Thanks very much to Greg and Terry who both replied to assist in

> Someone could write a fanfic about Caesar"s childhood. Caesar is

>
> ----------
> From: Kasey Taylor Cooper[SMTP:ELFGIRL_06@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 11:06:57 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Happy Birthday, Jeff!
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> C'mon - who wants to guess?

-- Hmmm... let me try and guess, is it P... Oh I see, the subject
header gives it away a bit!

Happy Birthday Jeff.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> > Someone could write a fanfic about Caesar"s childhood. Caesar is
> essentially human because he was raised in a human society and by a
> human. Other people must have known he could talk, Armando probably
> didn't keep that a secret from everyone.
>
> -- Well start writing then Elaine ;-)
> Seriously though, you've raised some good points here. I've always
> thought it would be virtually impossible for Armando to keep a
> talking Caesar secret from the other circus people. At the very
> least a few must have known about him.
> A lot of Armando's human qualities must have had an effect on his
> upbringing too.
>
> Neil

>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> wrote:
> I have this theory...
> I think that Milo (aka Caesar) grew up well-hidden in amongst his
> circus family. I believe that Armando did provide for Caesar,
> though, and that he was given a mate in the circus -- much as Nova
> was "given to" Taylor. They gave birth to a son. That son was
> intelligent, big, and strong. The government wanted this

> brilliant young chimp for... ???? Interested?
>
> -- YES! please explain...
>
> Neil

>
> ----------
> From: ape_mom[SMTP:SAND_HILL_SCHOOL@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 2:40:37 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Other questions... My story...
> Auto forwarded by a Rule

> Now, do you want "the rest of the story?"

> Can anyone help me find them?

> My guest would be an academy of science but it is closely