>
> www.goingfaster.com It's back!! I read the fine print so I am
> definitely not going to repeat one word that I read there ;)
>
> Funny.
>
> --Helen
>
>
>
>

> ----------
> From: HollowedOut[SMTP:AT_DEATHS_DOOR@...]
> Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 6:28:44 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Within the POTA Chapter 8. SOLVED!!!
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
> Okay, I'll go out on a limb here and guess that Dr. Garvon's
assistant is a younger Cornelius, but it's the Cornelius from Return
and this story is set in that timeline, years prior to the arrival of
Bill, Jeff and Judy (but not Brent, so we may be seeing him as well
as a younger Nova at some point in your story).

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <dave@4...> wrote:

I've just uploaded a pic to the files -
Planet_of_the_Apes_262863.jpg -

Does anyone recognise this? Is it a costume test maybe?

Dave B

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Here's the photo Dave was referring to:
>

> Here's the photo Dave was referring to:

> In a earlier email someone stated they had seen it before ,it was

> Neil, what's the object on the lower right of the title frame in

> Here's the photo Dave was referring to:
>
> Neil, are you able to upload to the Files please?
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John O." <jspy@w...> wrote:
> > Neil, what's the object on the lower right of the title frame in
> chapter 1?
>
> -- John the mystery object is in fact the handlebar part of an old
> motorbike.
>
> Neil

Hi Brian

 

Ant clues as to the identity and nature of this one?

 

Michael

> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:52:29 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Within POTA chapter 1 mystery object
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John O." <jspy@w...> wrote:
> > Neil, what's the object on the lower right of the title frame in
chapter 1?
>
> -- John the mystery object is in fact the handlebar part of an old
motorbike.
>
> Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Yeah, well I was 100% convinced it was BAGPIPES!
>
> I still think it IS, but Neil changed his mind to taunt me! ;)
>
> Michael
>
> From: John O.[SMTP:JSPY@W...]
> > Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 8:52:29 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Within POTA chapter 1 mystery object
> > Auto forwarded by a Rule
> >
>
> Ah yes, the forks, the headlight..... that was not a rip, by the
way.
> It's like when they have you guess what something is close up, or
> incomplete.
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John O." <jspy@w...> wrote:
> > > Neil, what's the object on the lower right of the title frame in
> chapter 1?
> >
> > -- John the mystery object is in fact the handlebar part of an old
> motorbike.
> >
> > Neil

OK - Let's have a competition.

 

First Prize - an original Animation Cel from the "Return" series - with original PAINTED BACKGROUND!

 

Second Prize - full set of medicom figures (including "Dark Cornelius") and Kubricks.

 

Third Prize - Mego in Repro Box.

 

Weekly Prizes - Ash Can edition printed FULL VERSIONS of BEWARE THE BEAST - these are the ones that include 7 pages NOT SEEN ON THE INTERNET VERSION, with 2 pages of production art and a teaser for the new story set in the TV Show environment, starring our favourite trio, written by Dave Ballard, Illustrated by Neil Foster.

 

First, take 20 minutes to WATCH THE PILOT EPISODE!

 

If you can't do this, contact me for a free copy.

 

To register in the competition, send a post about the appropriate episode to the DG.  No Rory, "It Sux" does not count!  ;)

 

NOW - GO AND WATCH!

 

And don't be mistaken, this is a shameless recruiting move to get people to join the POTADG, and to try to get people talking about Planet of the Apes again.  It is also a great way to generate discussion about the much neglected Cartoon Series.

Michael

> ----------
> From: ron kenner[SMTP:BRINDLEPIT2002@...]
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 11:22:51 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Cartoon Series - "Return to the Planet of

> Apes" Discussion Gr oup.
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

Contest is just on hold - pending everyone having a copy of "Return".

Do you have a copy?

Michael

> ----------
> From:       ron kenner[SMTP:BRINDLEPIT2002@...]
> Sent:       Friday, November 19, 2004 11:22:51 AM
> To:       PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:       Re: [PotaDG] Cartoon Series - "Return to the Planet of
the
> Apes" Discussion Gr oup.
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>
hi-
i have been away from email a while...
what happened with this contest?
those are some GREAT prizes.
who won?
rob
oosa

go vegetarian!

>
> ----------
> From: ron kenner[SMTP:BRINDLEPIT2002@...]
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 12:35:58 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Cartoon Series - "Return to the Planet of

> Apes" Discussion Group.
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Hoknes <terryhoknes@s...> wrote:
> my two cents of opinion is to hold the cartoon contest off until
january
> when people have more time after xmas and the POTA tv series
contest will
> also be over
> and then everyone can focus 100% on the cartoons!

>
> Fair enough then.
>
> However, I'll allow everyone who wants to put forth something on

> pilot now.
>
> We'll pick up steam again in January.
>
> Michael
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Hoknes <terryhoknes@s...> wrote:
> > my two cents of opinion is to hold the cartoon contest off until
> january
> > when people have more time after xmas and the POTA tv series
> contest will
> > also be over
> > and then everyone can focus 100% on the cartoons!

>
> So...
>
> Who has copies of the Return DVD available to those of us who are
> still unenlightened?
>
> --Helen
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty"

> wrote:
> >
> > Fair enough then.
> >
> > However, I'll allow everyone who wants to put forth something on
> the
> > pilot now.
> >
> > We'll pick up steam again in January.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Hoknes <terryhoknes@s...> wrote:
> > > my two cents of opinion is to hold the cartoon contest off

> > january
> > > when people have more time after xmas and the POTA tv series
> > contest will
> > > also be over
> > > and then everyone can focus 100% on the cartoons!

>
> I'm waiting for a volunteer to transfer a set to NTSC!
>
> Rory could, but he seems to be ignoring my request.
>
> Michael
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > So...
> >
> > Who has copies of the Return DVD available to those of us who are
> > still unenlightened?
> >
> > --Helen
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty"
> <Michael.Whitty@d...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Fair enough then.
> > >
> > > However, I'll allow everyone who wants to put forth something

> > the
> > > pilot now.
> > >
> > > We'll pick up steam again in January.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Hoknes <terryhoknes@s...> wrote:
> > > > my two cents of opinion is to hold the cartoon contest off
> until
> > > january
> > > > when people have more time after xmas and the POTA tv series
> > > contest will
> > > > also be over
> > > > and then everyone can focus 100% on the cartoons!

> hi-
> i have been away from email a while...
> what happened with this contest?
> those are some GREAT prizes.
> who won?
> rob
> oosa
>

Ok. Is there anyone else? Maybe Rory is busy. I could borrow a set
of yours and have them transferred at a shop somewhere if there is a
place that does that sort of thing. (I'm unenlightened about that,
too.) I'll check. Would that be a possibility?

--Helen


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty"
wrote:
>
> I'm waiting for a volunteer to transfer a set to NTSC!
>
> Rory could, but he seems to be ignoring my request.
>
> Michael
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom"
> wrote:
> >
> > So...
> >
> > Who has copies of the Return DVD available to those of us who are
> > still unenlightened?
> >
> > --Helen
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty"
>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Fair enough then.
> > >
> > > However, I'll allow everyone who wants to put forth something
on
> > the
> > > pilot now.
> > >
> > > We'll pick up steam again in January.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Hoknes wrote:
> > > > my two cents of opinion is to hold the cartoon contest off
> until
> > > january
> > > > when people have more time after xmas and the POTA tv series
> > > contest will
> > > > also be over
> > > > and then everyone can focus 100% on the cartoons!





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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
> Hunter is working on this and still expects to have them done by
the time the current TV series contest is over next month. I'll be
able to help with distribution, and I recall there were others who
offered to help as well, so I expect we'll have copies to everyone
who wants them in January.
>
> Greg P.
>
> ape_mom <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
>
>
> Ok. Is there anyone else? Maybe Rory is busy. I could borrow a set
> of yours and have them transferred at a shop somewhere if there is
a
> place that does that sort of thing. (I'm unenlightened about that,
> too.) I'll check. Would that be a possibility?
>
> --Helen
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty"
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm waiting for a volunteer to transfer a set to NTSC!
> >
> > Rory could, but he seems to be ignoring my request.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > So...
> > >
> > > Who has copies of the Return DVD available to those of us who
are
> > > still unenlightened?
> > >
> > > --Helen
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty"
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Fair enough then.
> > > >
> > > > However, I'll allow everyone who wants to put forth something
> on
> > > the
> > > > pilot now.
> > > >
> > > > We'll pick up steam again in January.
> > > >
> > > > Michael
> > > >
> > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Hoknes wrote:
> > > > > my two cents of opinion is to hold the cartoon contest off
> > until
> > > > january
> > > > > when people have more time after xmas and the POTA tv
series
> > > > contest will
> > > > > also be over
> > > > > and then everyone can focus 100% on the cartoons!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links

>
> That would be great, Greg. Please put me on the list. I ape-

> it. And thanks to both you and Hunter for pulling this together

> us. It's a lot of work.
>
> Please email me privately with details and I will send my address,
> etc...
>
> --Helen
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
> > Hunter is working on this and still expects to have them done by
> the time the current TV series contest is over next month. I'll be
> able to help with distribution, and I recall there were others who
> offered to help as well, so I expect we'll have copies to everyone
> who wants them in January.
> >
> > Greg P.

What prizes?




--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, ron kenner <brindlepit2002> yes, >
> hi-
> i have been away from email a while...
> what happened with this contest?
> those are some GREAT prizes.
> who won?
> rob
> oosa
>

go vegetarian!

I'm waiting for a volunteer to transfer a set to NTSC!

Rory could, but he seems to be ignoring my request.

Michael


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:
>
> So...
>
> Who has copies of the Return DVD available to those of us who are
> still unenlightened?
>
> --Helen
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty"
<Michael.Whitty@d...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Fair enough then.
> >
> > However, I'll allow everyone who wants to put forth something on
> the
> > pilot now.
> >
> > We'll pick up steam again in January.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Hoknes <terryhoknes@s...> wrote:
> > > my two cents of opinion is to hold the cartoon contest off
until
> > january
> > > when people have more time after xmas and the POTA tv series
> > contest will
> > > also be over
> > > and then everyone can focus 100% on the cartoons!

go vegetarian!

> i dont want to butt in on anyone's project...butt if needed, i could

> my copy is fairly good as i recall.
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, ron kenner <brindlepit2002@y...> wrote:
> i dont want to butt in on anyone's project...butt if needed, i could
attempt a VHS to DVD conversion.
> my copy is fairly good as i recall.
> 
After collecting six different sources from various people
(and thanks to all of them), I have good copies that I'm
actively converting to DVD.  I hope to make significant
progress on them this weekend.  The task has taken me a lot
longer than anticipated because of unexpected Real Work and
family commitments, but it will be done before too long.

Hunter

> That's cause as well as Hunter's web site HE ROCKS!! ROCK HUNTER

>
> -Chris
>
> Hunter Goatley <goathunter@g...> wrote:
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, ron kenner <brindlepit2002@y...>

> > i dont want to butt in on anyone's project...butt if needed, i

> attempt a VHS to DVD conversion.
> > my copy is fairly good as i recall.
> >
> After collecting six different sources from various people
> (and thanks to all of them), I have good copies that I'm
> actively converting to DVD. I hope to make significant
> progress on them this weekend. The task has taken me a lot
> longer than anticipated because of unexpected Real Work and
> family commitments, but it will be done before too long.
>
> Hunter
>
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>
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> ----------
> From: ape_mom[SMTP:SAND_HILL_SCHOOL@...]
> Sent: Saturday, November 20, 2004 3:21:46 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Cartoon Series - "Return to the Planet of

> Apes" Discussion Group.
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

>
> ----------
> From: taebokitti@...[SMTP:TAEBOKITTI@...]
> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 3:08:22 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collector Selling Up!
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>

>
> ----------
> From: taebokitti@...[SMTP:TAEBOKITTI@...]
> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 3:59:28 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Calling Jeff K
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

>
> ----------
> From: taebokitti@...[SMTP:TAEBOKITTI@...]
> Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 5:49:42 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Calling Jeff K
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

> I'm sure he does and I had my tongue FIRMLY
> implanted in my cheek when I
> said that.
>
> However, as a collector, I get a little worried when
> I see this!
>
> Michael
>
> >
> > ----------
> > From: taebokitti@...[SMTP:TAEBOKITTI@...]
> > Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 3:08:22 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collector Selling Up!
> > Auto forwarded by a Rule
> >
> He must have reasons for selling his collection.
> Elaine
>
>
>

>
> In a message dated 11/20/2004 7:15:18 AM Central
> Standard Time,
> whitty@... writes:
>
> Anybody else here notice that Chris Sauseville is
> selling up his POTA
> collection on eBay?
>
>
>
> Yeah I think it's a bad idea. Maybe he needs the
> money,
> but he should wait for the economy to pick up more
> after
> the first of the year. Not only that but everyone
> will be
> spending all their disposable income on Christmas
> presents, so unless they're buying them for someone
> else's, which is unlikely, he's not going to get top
> bids.
> That and it's just uncool. His wife must have put
> her
> foot down about her sewing room or something.
>
>
>

> Why are you worried? Do you think the market is going
> down on Ape stuff? I saw his stuff under the name
> "Sausy" but someone else has several custom figures
> that look like the Matthew Sotis ones in the book?
> Anyone know who that is?
>
> Tim
>
> --- Michael Whitty <whitty@c...> wrote:
>
> > I'm sure he does and I had my tongue FIRMLY
> > implanted in my cheek when I
> > said that.
> >
> > However, as a collector, I get a little worried when
> > I see this!
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > >
> > > ----------
> > > From: taebokitti@a...[SMTP:TAEBOKITTI@A...]
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 3:08:22 AM
> > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collector Selling Up!
> > > Auto forwarded by a Rule
> > >
> > He must have reasons for selling his collection.
> > Elaine
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________

> Maybe he's selling thing he has doubles of...Does
> anyone actually know him?
>
> Tim
>
> --- LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> >
> > In a message dated 11/20/2004 7:15:18 AM Central
> > Standard Time,
> > whitty@c... writes:
> >
> > Anybody else here notice that Chris Sauseville is
> > selling up his POTA
> > collection on eBay?
> >
> >
> >
> > Yeah I think it's a bad idea. Maybe he needs the
> > money,
> > but he should wait for the economy to pick up more
> > after
> > the first of the year. Not only that but everyone
> > will be
> > spending all their disposable income on Christmas
> > presents, so unless they're buying them for someone
> > else's, which is unlikely, he's not going to get top
> > bids.
> > That and it's just uncool. His wife must have put
> > her
> > foot down about her sewing room or something.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________

>
> ----------
> From: taebokitti@...[SMTP:TAEBOKITTI@...]
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 4:36:22 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Calling Jeff K
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

> File : /The Stranger/Chapter Ten.doc
> Uploaded by : hidalgo_girl05 <elfgirl_06@c...>
> Description : Chapter Ten- Urko
>
> You can access this file at the URL:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/The%20Stranger/Chapter%

>
> Thanks to the efforts of Greg P., issue 5 of the Marvel UK comic is
> now available for download in PDF format:
>
> http://www.goatley.com/pota/
>
> Look for issue 6 next weekend!
>
> Hunter

Fair enough then.

However, I'll allow everyone who wants to put forth something on the
pilot now.

We'll pick up steam again in January.

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Hoknes <terryhoknes@s...> wrote:
> my two cents of opinion is to hold the cartoon contest off until
january
> when people have more time after xmas and the POTA tv series
contest will
> also be over
> and then everyone can focus 100% on the cartoons!

---

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>
> ----------
> From: charlton burton[SMTP:CHARBURN65@...]
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 11:23:55 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Cartoon Series - "Return to the Planet

> the Apes" Discussion Group.
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

> While looking at this site:

> Also, this site suggests that the ship had a controlled landing.

>What's the general speculation on this? Is it that Burke was

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
>
>
> Neil,
>
> I just want to say this and the next few Chapters of Within are
some of
> the most exciting I have ever seen.
>
> Plus, everyone may feel free to speculate on the significance and
> identity of a Chief of Security!
>
> Michael
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Within%20the%20Planet%
20of%20
> the%20Apes/Chapter9.gif

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John O." <jspy@w...> wrote:
> > While looking at this site:
> http://www.goingfaster.com/icarus/virdonopening.html"
> It mentions that the ship is much smaller than Taylor's ship. Did
> everyone already know this? Actually, just shorter. It looks
like
> they took off the rear section at the seam (stripes) of the
original
> ship, then put a new rear end on it.
>
> -- John for my take on this I will refer you to Beware the Beast.
> In the comic I had the spaceship blasting off and then when free
of
> the Earth's gravity I had the rear rocket section detach just
> leaving the shorter capsule part for re-entry, much like the
Apollo
> rockets NASA used.
>
> I based all this on the wreckage of Brent's ship. A rear rocket
> section can clearly be seen (though mostly destroyed) with what
> looks like 3 landing legs. Also if you notice in Beneath there is
> only a single blast mark on the ground, not a skid mark / trench
> like in the TV show, which suggested to me that it was a craft
that
> landed straight up, ready to blast off.

> At last we get to see Ape City! Looks awesome with the additional
> buildings. I like the glyph on the door, too.

> Neil, how much more planning does it take to do the strip rather

>Which raises another question - how does the craft land then, after

>Or he's packing it in before POTA2K1 ruins the value of his

>
> ----------
> From: John O.[SMTP:JSPY@...]
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 3:47:14 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Within the Planet of the Apes Chapter9
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
>
>
> Neil,
>
> I just want to say this and the next few Chapters of Within are
some of
> the most exciting I have ever seen.
>
> Plus, everyone may feel free to speculate on the significance and
> identity of a Chief of Security!
>
> Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John O." <jspy@w...> wrote:
> > Also, this site suggests that the ship had a controlled landing.
> That doesn't mean it was supposed to land like that, does it?
> Unless they mean "attempted controlled emergency landing", but
this
> can't be the way the ship is supposed to land, especially when it
> ends up killing one of the astronauts!
>
> -- Yeah, it has always amazed me that in all the Apes movies only
> the chimp in the 2001 version was able to successfully land a
space
> craft without destroying it! ;-)
>
> >What's the general speculation on this? Is it that Burke was
> piloting when something went wrong (landing gear, thrusters, etc),
> tried to land it the best he could, they got banged around when it
> hit the ground and ended up killing Jones?
>
> --Weren't they all unconscious when it landed? I thought one of
them
> hit an automatic homing switch or some such thing?
>
> Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:

> Wow! I don't even remember Jones. I'll have to get that ship
with
> the TV series DVDs and watch them sometime. I thought the
> only reason the couldn't take off was the computer was broken.

>I'll look forward to reading Neil's response

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
I'll look forward to reading Neil's response

-- Ummm, I already did respond a couple of posts ago! Must be this
bloody daylight savings time that you southerners get but they won't let
us have in Queensland! ;-)

Neil

Here's a clip from this article about intermixing human cells and
animal cells:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6534243/

It's a very interesting read.

John O.



Imagine, said Robert Streiffer, a professor of philosophy and
bioethics at the University of Wisconsin, a human-chimpanzee chimera
endowed with speech and an enhanced potential to learn � what some
have called a "humanzee."

"There's a knee-jerk reaction that enhancing the moral status of an
animal is bad," Streiffer said. "But if you did it, and you gave it
the protections it deserves, how could the animal complain?"

Unfortunately, said Harvard political philosopher Michael J. Sandel,
speaking last fall at a meeting of the President's Council on
Bioethics, such protections are unlikely.

"Chances are we would make them perform menial jobs or dangerous
jobs," Sandel said. "That would be an objection."

A research breakthrough
The potential power of chimeras as research tools became clear about
a decade ago in a series of dramatic experiments by Evan Balaban, now
at McGill University in Montreal. Balaban took small sections of
brain from developing quails and transplanted them into the
developing brains of chickens.

The resulting chickens exhibited vocal trills and head bobs unique to
quails, proving that the transplanted parts of the brain contained
the neural circuitry for quail calls. It also offered astonishing
proof that complex behaviors could be transferred across species.

No one has proposed similar experiments between, say, humans and
apes. But the discovery of human embryonic stem cells in 1998 allowed
researchers to envision related experiments that might reveal a lot
about how embryos grow.

go vegetarian!

> thank you; bio-ethical concerns are always fascinating.
>
> and i rememebr reading in starlog magazine that the original

>
> rob/ron
>

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> The same holds true for Star trek and other shows, the less popular shows do
> not affect the sale of the more collectable or original stuff. Blaming pota
> 2001 for low sales of original pota merchandise is like saying the sale of
> apples affects the sale of pina coladas. Elaine

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