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In a message dated 1/2/2005 11:42:14 A.M. Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

My favorite non-"Apes" Jacobs is "What A Way to Go'.

 

I love that movie!

 

"Oh Melrose!  Forgive meeee!"

 

LOL!!!!!

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Yes. Sorry.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 1/2/2005 7:42:36 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> sand_hill_school@y... writes:
>
> Check out the number of children seen on
> the movie!
>
>
>
>
> I've seen children in a movie and at a movie but on a movie?
> They'll dent the can!

.html.html In a message dated 1/2/05 2:12:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

What was Sammy's deal about doing Anthony Newley songs?
He did Candy Man from Willy Wonka as well.

Actually, Leslie Bricusse completely wrote DOLITTLE, both he and Newley worked on WONKA.

Sammy was just chasing the potential hits.  It's all a crapshoot.

-- Rory<.html <.html

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In a message dated 1/2/2005 12:05:46 P.M. Central Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

There aren't many children in the PLANET movie... A few young chimps around, but as for humans, there is only that boy the Gorillas captured alive... Either they all got gunned down, stayed behind and didn't migrate to the croplands, or else the humans just didn't do enough rutting...

 

I don't understand.  The youngsters aren't going to be standing

around watching.  I take it you have had sex, since you have

children, and yet they may not know that's how they got here.

You continue to have sex, and there aren't kids watching that.

I hope.  Are you talking about the Cornfield Scene?  That

could be done quite easily!  Hire nudists!  Would that solve

the problem?  Then they wouldn't be seeing they hadn't seen before.

 

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Hmmm... I guess I don't get the question...

My point was...

What is the point of the scene that you are asking for? Since there
is no reason to breed humans -- as there are already too many -- and
since the Apes don't seem prone to excessive procreation, I don't
see the need of putting it in the "new" movie! It just isn't an
important part of the story.

Where am I losing everyone?

--Helen

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 1/2/2005 12:05:46 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> mlccougar@a... writes:
>
> There aren't many children in the PLANET movie... A few young
chimps around,
> but as for humans, there is only that boy the Gorillas captured
alive...
> Either they all got gunned down, stayed behind and didn't migrate
to the
> croplands, or else the humans just didn't do enough rutting...
>
>
>
>
> I don't understand. The youngsters aren't going to be standing
> around watching. I take it you have had sex, since you have
> children, and yet they may not know that's how they got here.
> You continue to have sex, and there aren't kids watching that.
> I hope. Are you talking about the Cornfield Scene? That
> could be done quite easily! Hire nudists! Would that solve
> the problem? Then they wouldn't be seeing they hadn't seen
before.

.html.html In a message dated 1/2/2005 1:36:19 PM Central Standard Time, sand_hill_school@... writes:

What is the point of the scene that you are asking for?  Since there
is no reason to breed humans -- as there are already too many -- and
since the Apes don't seem prone to excessive procreation, I don't
see the need of putting it in the "new" movie!  It just isn't an
important part of the story.

If they're talking about doing the "new movie" as Boulle's novel is, then they WOULD be breeding humans, because on Soror, humans are a "cash crop"... It says something in there about the humans being captured and sold, because humans bring a high price...

Even if it'd be more along the lines of PLANET/BENEATH, in those films, the lab apes breed humans... They breed them for genetic studies,or maybe to breed more "lab rats" so they can rely on their own inventory of humans rather than relying on the live ones brought in by the Hunt Club... Why do you think Zira placed Nova in with Taylor? She wanted them to mate...

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When we're done here, I'll go back to my place by the wall.
Honest. I definitely see where you are coming from and, in a
previous note, I grant that they type of movie you suggest
would/could likely get the awards you want it to. I'm not even
saying that isn't the direction it should go.

I am saying that I think it could be successful with the following --
gaining what I think could (I would italicize, but can't in this
text box) be a pg-13 rating:

1.) nude humans -- modestly filmed -- no sexual situations on camera
2.) violent (Mel Gibson-esque) type battles
3.) icky language
4.) "tasteful" conversations about the stuff that you all want to
see on camera

As I have said, I would rather it be a PG, but I didn't suggest it
could be successful as a PG -- I said I would like that "If I had
my 'druthers."

Now I haven't gone back to check my previous posts for quotes. But
that is the position I have taken and will continue to take. I am
intersted, though, and that is why I asked, to know how you all
feel. I was actually hoping that somewhere in Ape-dom someone would
think the way I do. Italics: I'm trying to flesh you out, my
friend, if you are there -- whoever you are.

Peace.

Helen

PS -- Kids!! Get off the film canisters!!



--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:

>
> Hmmm... I guess I don't get the question...
>
> My point was...
>
> What is the point of the scene that you are asking for? Since

there

> is no reason to breed humans -- as there are already too many --

and

> since the Apes don't seem prone to excessive procreation, I don't
> see the need of putting it in the "new" movie! It just isn't an
> important part of the story.
>
> Where am I losing everyone?
>
> --Helen
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 1/2/2005 12:05:46 P.M. Central Standard

Time,

> > mlccougar@a... writes:
> >
> > There aren't many children in the PLANET movie... A few young
> chimps around,
> > but as for humans, there is only that boy the Gorillas captured
> alive...
> > Either they all got gunned down, stayed behind and didn't

migrate

> to the
> > croplands, or else the humans just didn't do enough rutting...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't understand. The youngsters aren't going to be standing
> > around watching. I take it you have had sex, since you have
> > children, and yet they may not know that's how they got here.
> > You continue to have sex, and there aren't kids watching that.
> > I hope. Are you talking about the Cornfield Scene? That
> > could be done quite easily! Hire nudists! Would that solve
> > the problem? Then they wouldn't be seeing they hadn't seen
> before.

.html I agree with you Helen. The chimps probably fix each other's hair, since chimps do groom each other. No need for hairdressers. Elaine<.html

Forgive my ignorance. Wasn't that a special thing because Taylor
was "special/different"?

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 1/2/2005 1:36:19 PM Central Standard Time,
> sand_hill_school@y... writes:
>
> > What is the point of the scene that you are asking for? Since
there
> > is no reason to breed humans -- as there are already too many --
and
> > since the Apes don't seem prone to excessive procreation, I
don't
> > see the need of putting it in the "new" movie! It just isn't an
> > important part of the story.
>
> If they're talking about doing the "new movie" as Boulle's novel
is, then
> they WOULD be breeding humans, because on Soror, humans are
a "cash crop"... It
> says something in there about the humans being captured and sold,
because
> humans bring a high price...
>
> Even if it'd be more along the lines of PLANET/BENEATH, in those
films, the
> lab apes breed humans... They breed them for genetic studies,or
maybe to breed
> more "lab rats" so they can rely on their own inventory of humans
rather than
> relying on the live ones brought in by the Hunt Club... Why do you
think Zira
> placed Nova in with Taylor? She wanted them to mate...

Although I do see that to many of you (esp as 10 year old boys) this
may have been the most important part of the story!

> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:
> > In a message dated 1/2/2005 1:36:19 PM Central Standard Time,
> > sand_hill_school@y... writes:
> >
> > > What is the point of the scene that you are asking for? Since
> there
> > > is no reason to breed humans -- as there are already too many -

-

> and
> > > since the Apes don't seem prone to excessive procreation, I
> don't
> > > see the need of putting it in the "new" movie! It just isn't

an

> > > important part of the story.
> >

.html.html In a message dated 1/2/2005 1:51:48 PM Central Standard Time, sand_hill_school@... writes:

Forgive my ignorance.  Wasn't that a special thing because Taylor
was "special/different"? 

Well, yes, she saw him as a "superior" human, so she wanted to get that bloodline going... She placed a "superior" female in with him too... She wanted to breed "intelligent" humans, not the run of the mill savages she normally experiments with...

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.html.html In a message dated 1/2/2005 1:55:44 PM Central Standard Time, sand_hill_school@... writes:

Although I do see that to many of you (esp as 10 year old boys) this
may have been the most important part of the story!

Not true... It seems most people that are talking on it aren't "seeing it as 10yr olds", they're seeing it as what would probably be the realistic portrayal of the setting... You almost seem to think that the whole movie would focus on one small scene, which would probably last a couple minutes in a full length movie... 97% of the film wouldn't even deal with breeding their savages, yet it seems that you think it would?

Personally, I wouldn't care how it was handled, or if they even included it or not... But if they would do it, I'd have to say that they're right when they say to do it realistically...

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In a message dated 1/2/2005 1:51:48 PM Central Standard Time, sand_hill_school@... writes:

Forgive my ignorance.  Wasn't that a special thing because Taylor
was "special/different"? 

Well, yes, she saw him as a "superior" human, so she wanted to get that bloodline going... She placed a "superior" female in with him too... She wanted to breed "intelligent" humans, not the run of the mill savages she normally experiments with...

go vegetarian!

.html I am joking when I mentioned a nude musical of pota. I still feel that pota has serious issues that would be detracted from if graphic nudity and sex were in it. Elaine<.html

The 10-year-old comment was about MY thought that that scene in the
movie wasn't that important. Then I remembered that most of you are
much younger than I am and that I didn't see it as a boy (or as a 10-
year-old). I was actually NOT talking about the whole thread or the
inclusion or exclusion of that type of scene. Just, specifically,
that scene.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 1/2/2005 1:55:44 PM Central Standard Time,
> sand_hill_school@y... writes:
>
> > Although I do see that to many of you (esp as 10 year old boys)
this
> > may have been the most important part of the story!
>
> Not true... It seems most people that are talking on it
aren't "seeing it as
> 10yr olds", they're seeing it as what would probably be the
realistic
> portrayal of the setting... You almost seem to think that the
whole movie would focus
> on one small scene, which would probably last a couple minutes in
a full
> length movie... 97% of the film wouldn't even deal with breeding
their savages, yet
> it seems that you think it would?
>
> Personally, I wouldn't care how it was handled, or if they even
included it
> or not... But if they would do it, I'd have to say that they're
right when they
> say to do it realistically...

That's what I think. But it's not worth doing if it doesn't deal
with serious issues. I think it could win awards as a shocking,
real-life story. But I think it misses point yet again if it
doesn't deal with the human condition.


--Helen

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> I am joking when I mentioned a nude musical of pota. I still feel
that pota
> has serious issues that would be detracted from if graphic nudity
and sex were
> in it. Elaine

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My point is . . .

 

A. The scene is in the book.

 

B. In the movie Julius say, "Dr. Zira's not going to be happy.  She want's that pair to mate."  Which is what she intended when she gave Brighteyes his present, which is obvious from that knowing smile she give him when she does.

 

and finally C. I'm not talking about any long drawn out scene of writhing naked bodies in a passionate embrace that lasts an annoyingly, and possibly embarrassingly, long time (ala The Matrix: Revolutions).  I'm taking about ten or twenty seconds of very unsexual dogstyle (ala Quest For Fire) to give some credibility to a Space Opera franchise that has been driven into the ground, and Ewoked to death.  If it's not the budget cuts, it's crap writing with inane ideas full of so many holes that even Patrick can't unflub them.  And you seem to want some Disney Fantasy version of POTA, which is exactly the opposite of what I want.  I realize you don't see the legitimacy of this scene.  But both Planet and Conquest had imposed mating scenes, or at least implied them, and I'm just trying to pep it up a bit.  But it probably doesn't matter what you or I want.  POTA2K1 may have been the Apes death rattle.

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 1/2/2005 1:36:26 P.M. Central Standard Time, sand_hill_school@... writes:

My point was...

What is the point of the scene that you are asking for?  Since there
is no reason to breed humans -- as there are already too many -- and
since the Apes don't seem prone to excessive procreation, I don't
see the need of putting it in the "new" movie!  It just isn't an
important part of the story.

Where am I losing everyone?

 

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In a message dated 1/2/2005 1:46:42 P.M. Central Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

Why do you think Zira placed Nova in with Taylor? She wanted them to mate...

Jizactly!

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In a message dated 1/2/2005 1:47:54 P.M. Central Standard Time, sand_hill_school@... writes:

3.)  icky language

Okay.  Now I see why you're a teacher.

Never mine.

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In a message dated 1/2/2005 1:55:49 P.M. Central Standard Time, sand_hill_school@... writes:

Although I do see that to many of you (esp as 10 year old boys) this
may have been the most important part of the story!

 

Please, icky language?  Now who is the immature one?

Na na boo boo doo doo.  I don't want to say you're a

teacher because adult relationships scare you, but if

you're going to call me a 10 year old, then the gloves are off.

 

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In a message dated 1/2/2005 1:56:25 P.M. Central Standard Time, brindlepit2002@... writes:

reminds me of scene from conquest where the chimp servant nibbles a crumb from a woman's hair...

 

Perhaps she had crabs...

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.html.html In a message dated 1/2/2005 2:36:12 PM Central Standard Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

But it probably doesn't matter what you or I want.  POTA2K1 may have been the Apes death rattle.

I think it was... And, if it wasn't, it really is getting nuts here, debating about one scene in a movie that:

a) Probably will never be made.

b) Would probably end up being another "MTV audience" film

c) Which if it was "Boulle'd up", would end up being another SFX/ sets film rather than having anything good in it... They'd be looking at making the apes city and technology, rather than concentrating on anything to do with the human factor (except of course Ulysse, who would end up being played by another "young Hollywood" punk...)<.html <.html

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In a message dated 1/2/2005 2:18:52 P.M. Central Standard Time, sand_hill_school@... writes:

The 10-year-old comment was about MY thought that that scene in the
movie wasn't that important. 

 

Okay, but it sounds like a cop out to me.

But the scene isn't there for any purulent

reason.  I suppose that the skinny dipping

scene could have been shot with their

underwear on, but that's not going to

play naturally on screen.  The scene

is there to dehumanize Taylor.  If you'll

remember, in the book, Ulysses refused

to participate in the mating dance, and

Nova was thrown to the cavemen, until

he agreed to mate.  I agree that reality

isn't always pretty or pleasant to watch.

But it is real.

 

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Could be.

Thanks for the dialog, LT.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 1/2/2005 2:18:52 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> sand_hill_school@y... writes:
>
>
> The 10-year-old comment was about MY thought that that scene in
the
> movie wasn't that important.
>
>
>
> Okay, but it sounds like a cop out to me.
>

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In a message dated 1/2/2005 2:26:12 P.M. Central Standard Time, sand_hill_school@... writes:

That's what I think.  But it's not worth doing if it doesn't deal
with serious issues.  I think it could win awards as a shocking,
real-life story.  But I think it misses point yet again if it
doesn't deal with the human condition.

That's cool.  You don't have to stand in the corner.

But what I'm saying is, it misses the point if it

doesn't deal with the dehumanizing condition.

Taylor has his humanity stripped from him like

his clothes.  And this scene is just another way

of dehumanizing him.  I know you'd like to able

to have a new POTA that you can discuss with

the kids.  I just think there are too many adult

themes in the story to make it family friendly.

The only ones giggling like 10 year olds would

be the gorillas watching the mating if the scene

is done right.  Maybe Zira.  I'd have to get the

book out to check her attitude towards it.  But

does anyone remember the script that was in

between the Terry Hayes one and the Broyles

one?  Now that had an interesting treatment

of that scene -- with Cornelius making jokes

about the videos being porn.  Now that was

funny!  I have it around here somewhere.

I think Chris Columbus wrote that one.

 

 

 

 

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By the time the next POTA comes out, my kids will ALL be grown and
my grandkids will be trying to protect ME from seeing it!!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 1/2/2005 2:26:12 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> sand_hill_school@y... writes:
>
> That's what I think. But it's not worth doing if it doesn't deal
> with serious issues. I think it could win awards as a shocking,
> real-life story. But I think it misses point yet again if it
> doesn't deal with the human condition.
>
>
>
> That's cool. You don't have to stand in the corner.
> But what I'm saying is, it misses the point if it
> doesn't deal with the dehumanizing condition.
> Taylor has his humanity stripped from him like
> his clothes. And this scene is just another way
> of dehumanizing him. I know you'd like to able
> to have a new POTA that you can discuss with
> the kids. I just think there are too many adult
> themes in the story to make it family friendly.
> The only ones giggling like 10 year olds would
> be the gorillas watching the mating if the scene
> is done right. Maybe Zira. I'd have to get the
> book out to check her attitude towards it. But
> does anyone remember the script that was in
> between the Terry Hayes one and the Broyles
> one? Now that had an interesting treatment
> of that scene -- with Cornelius making jokes
> about the videos being porn. Now that was
> funny! I have it around here somewhere.
> I think Chris Columbus wrote that one.

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In a message dated 1/2/2005 2:48:10 P.M. Central Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

(except of course Ulysse, who would end up being played by another "young Hollywood" punk...)

 

Yeah, I remember they were talking about Leo DeCraprio playing the

Taylor character.  Personally I didn't think he had the statue, in spite

of The Basketball Diaries, but neither did Marky Mark for that matter.

I still can't see him as Howard Hughes, but I'll probably see it anyway.

 

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In a message dated 1/2/2005 3:48:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, sand_hill_school@... writes:

Thanks for the dialog, LT.

My pleasure.

 

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Dark Horse are DEFINITELY out - they have very firmly said "NO!".
They lost a fortune on the POTA2001 comics and the poor fools don't
see the difference between CLASSIC apes and POTA2001.

Mike, do you have some artwork you could share with us?

And while I would like to see the comics by the fans, for the fans
too I think I'm coming to my limit of what money I burn in the name
of POTA!

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <doctahoot@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...>
wrote:
> > It depends what you want.
> >
> > I have offered to do it on a "I pay the costs/do the work/give
Fox a percentage" basis.
> >
> > I hope I don't have to go into any more debt for POTA though!
> >
> > Michael
>
> Dark Horse comics would probably be a good contender. Either in
it's
> own issue or as a serial in Dark Horse presents- many of the DHP
> stories are black and white as well.
>
> But if you end up self-publishing, I hope it works out smoothly.
It'd
> be nice idea to have a complete printed Apes comics made entirely
by
> fans for the fans, ala fanzine style. And I'd love to donate pin-up
> art or a cover sometime.
>
> Mike

Ihad 2 records I played repeatedly as a child - Dr D and Chitty Bang
Bang!

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> Actually, I had a mixed reaction to "Dr. D". I thought it was
kind of clunky in parts. But it was fun. I just find it hard to
believe that Fox thought it would be their big hit. My favorite non-
"Apes" Jacobs is "What A Way to Go'. I taped that and his "Goodbye
Mr. Chips" in letterbox off AMC in the '90's. Still have to buy
the "Dr. D"VD. I'd eventually like to get all Jacobs flicks on DVD.
There weren't many of them. - - - Jeff
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Haristas@a...
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 7:36 AM
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Dr. Doolittle... "chatting with a chimp in
chimpanzee"...
>
>
> In a message dated 12/27/04 10:30:42 AM Eastern Standard Time,
patrickmichaeltilton@y... writes:
>
>
>
> *** It's been ages since I saw "DR. DOOLITTLE"
>
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:

> Cool, Neil. How do you do this? Are these screen captures?

-- Yeah they are all done from screen captures.
First I capture heaps of frames as it pans along the picture. Then I
piece them together in a graphics program which isn't as easy as it
sounds as sometimes the colour changes from frame to frame!
I try to do it so the joins aren't noticed but just how is my
secret. ;-)

Neil

Ihad 2 records I played repeatedly as a child - Dr D and Chitty Bang
Bang!

Michael


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
>   Actually, I had a mixed reaction to "Dr. D". I thought it was
kind of clunky in parts. But it was fun. I just find it hard to
believe that Fox thought it would be their big hit. My favorite non-
"Apes" Jacobs is "What A Way to Go'. I taped that and his "Goodbye
Mr. Chips" in letterbox off AMC in the '90's. Still have to buy
the "Dr. D"VD. I'd eventually like to get all Jacobs flicks on DVD.
There weren't many of them. - - - Jeff
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Haristas@a...
>   To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 7:36 AM
>   Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Dr. Doolittle... "chatting with a chimp in
chimpanzee"...
>
>
>   In a message dated 12/27/04 10:30:42 AM Eastern Standard Time,
patrickmichaeltilton@y... writes:
>
>
>
>     *** It's been ages since I saw "DR. DOOLITTLE"
>
>

I don't think they wanted a good film - they wanted a money spinner!

They got NEITHER!

Michael

>
> ----------
> From: LordTZer0@...[SMTP:LORDTZER0@...]
> Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 5:22:50 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Statistics.
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

In a message dated 1/1/2005 12:44:42 A.M. Central Standard Time,
mlccougar@... writes:

I am a fan too, and I don't know if they'd sell out... The odds are
against
APES now, especially after the disaster of the pota2001 merchandise and
public's feelings towards that movie.


I have to say they couldn't have done more damage to the franchise if
they
had planned to. I can't wait for the old guard who green lighted the
plan
to die off and maybe get some fresh blood in charge over there. I don't
know what the suits were thinking, or even if they were thinking. You'd
think if they were interested in the bottom line, or even self
preservation,
their first concern would be a quality product. But after seeing some
of
the bombs that get release on a yearly bases, I'm not sure, despite
being in
the biz, that these monkeys wouldn't no a good film if it bit them in
the
ass! I'd help them out, but their beyond redemption.

i think with the dvd releases and stuff that 20th century surely has made a
LOT of money off the new movie
and their cut in all the licensed product must be pretty good too
even if its all sitting in bargain bins now

big companies sometimes just want to get their guaranteed cut/profit
and dont really worry about what happens later on

Many people know that I spent $10,000.00 on merchandise for the 2001 movie
and I lost my shirt trying to do my part in promoting the new movie and its
memorabilia

Why is it the biggest fans trying to do a good deed lose out in the end ?

I would like to see Michael put out a comic himself but the whole point is
nobody will guarantee that he even breaks even and in a sense nobody will
care!

It's a shame!

> Dark Horse are DEFINITELY out - they have very firmly said "NO!".
> They lost a fortune on the POTA2001 comics and the poor fools don't
> see the difference between CLASSIC apes and POTA2001.
>
> Mike, do you have some artwork you could share with us?
>
> And while I would like to see the comics by the fans, for the fans
> too I think I'm coming to my limit of what money I burn in the name
> of POTA!
>
> Michael
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <doctahoot@y...> wrote:
>>
>> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...>
> wrote:
>> > It depends what you want.
>> >
>> > I have offered to do it on a "I pay the costs/do the work/give
> Fox a percentage" basis.
>> >
>> > I hope I don't have to go into any more debt for POTA though!
>> >
>> > Michael
>>
>> Dark Horse comics would probably be a good contender. Either in
> it's
>> own issue or as a serial in Dark Horse presents- many of the DHP
>> stories are black and white as well.
>>
>> But if you end up self-publishing, I hope it works out smoothly.
> It'd
>> be nice idea to have a complete printed Apes comics made entirely
> by
>> fans for the fans, ala fanzine style. And I'd love to donate pin-up
>> art or a cover sometime.
>>
>> Mike
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , mlccougar@a... wrote:

> I think it was... And, if it wasn't, it really is getting nuts

here, debating...

-- I agree. I don't see the need for sex scenes in any new POTA films
(which we probably won't even get anyway). It was good enough for it
to be only implied in the old ones so why bother including that stuff
now? It won't make the movie more popular or any better.
I think we all agree what any new one would need would be a GOOD
story.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Hoknes <terryhoknes@s...> wrote:

> Why is it the biggest fans trying to do a good deed lose out in

the end ?
I would like to see Michael put out a comic himself but the whole
point is nobody will guarantee that he even breaks even and in a
sense nobody will care! It's a shame!

-- How true. And it isn't just about the money. Most of the decent
POTA stuff that has been made available in the last few years has
been done by fans for the fans. No one has made any money from these
things, infact some people have lost money!

We sometimes forget how lucky we are that there are other fans
prepared to do all the stuff that has been made available to POTA
fans because most of the big companies don't seem to think it is
worth it!

Neil

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In a message dated 1/2/2005 5:07:09 P.M. Central Standard Time, at_deaths_door@... writes:

Toot Sweats!! I wanted those more than any candy... and then WHISTLE POPS CAME!!!! YEA!!!!

 

GOD I hated that movie!!

.

I was a bit disappointed in the Wonka candies

The ones in the movie looked a lot better.

Dick Van Dyke's (that name) character

in What A Way To Go, seemed an awful lot like

Cractacus Potts.  Hop hop hop to Hopper's! 

 

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In a message dated 1/2/2005 5:24:14 P.M. Central Standard Time, terryhoknes@... writes:

Many people know that I spent $10,000.00 on merchandise for the 2001 movie
and I lost my shirt trying to do my part in promoting the new movie and its
memorabilia

 

Never invest your own money!

Didn't you see The Producers?

 

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In a message dated 1/2/2005 5:25:19 P.M. Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

It was good enough for it to be only implied in the old ones so why bother including that stuff now?

 

Because that was then. This is now. 

Why even have talkies?

Silent movies were good enough.

Man I can see me trying to pitch

this idea to a bunch of suits with

the same tired arguments.  I would

not be surprised if Burton didn't sink

POTA of purpose, just out of spite.

 

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In a message dated 1/2/2005 4:19:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, PotaDG@yahoogroups.com writes:

Let's have an R rated pota movie with nudity and sex, but make it a MUSICAL!

Naw, lets really rock the boat and make it a Hip-Hop Musical.

 

P Diddy as Taylor

Jennifer (no talent) Lopez as Zira

Beyonce as Nova...

 

 

 

Imagine there's no countries,It isn't hard to do.
Nothing to kill or die for And no religon too.
Imagine all the people, Living life in peace...

John Lennon - Imagine

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:
> I think it was... And, if it wasn't, it really is getting nuts
here, debating...

-- I agree. I don't see the need for sex scenes in any new POTA films
(which we probably won't even get anyway). It was good enough for it
to be only implied in the old ones so why bother including that stuff
now? It won't make the movie more popular or any better.
I think we all agree what any new one would need would be a GOOD
story.

Neil 

   Good story, good actors and a great director is what is needed for the next pota movie.

Elaine

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , taebokitti@a... wrote:

> Good story, good actors and a great director is what is needed for

the next pota movie.

-- Don't forget proper looking Ape bags and hair ornaments. ;-)

Neil

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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Whitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 2:48 PM

Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Licensing

Dark Horse are DEFINITELY out - they have very firmly said "NO!". 
They lost a fortune on the POTA2001 comics and the poor fools don't
see the difference between CLASSIC apes and POTA2001.

Mike, do you have some artwork you could share with us?

And while I would like to see the comics by the fans, for the fans
too I think I'm coming to my limit of what money I burn in the name
of POTA!

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <doctahoot@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...>
wrote:
> > It depends what you want.
> >
> > I have offered to do it on a "I pay the costs/do the work/give
Fox a percentage" basis.
> >
> > I hope I don't have to go into any more debt for POTA though!
> >
> > Michael
>
> Dark Horse comics would probably be a good contender.  Either in
it's
> own issue or as a serial in Dark Horse presents- many of the DHP
> stories are black and white as well. 
>
> But if you end up self-publishing, I hope it works out smoothly.
It'd
> be nice idea to have a complete printed Apes comics made entirely
by
> fans for the fans, ala fanzine style. And I'd love to donate pin-up
> art or a cover sometime.
>
> Mike

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Thank you Neil...these are always enjoyable!
Tim


--- Neil <nfoster@...> wrote:

>
> Just wanted to let you all know that I have been
> busy putting
> together more of the paintings that they pan along
> in the Return to
> the POTA cartoon.
> I have just uploaded four more to the files section
> in the 'Return
> paintings' folder:-
>
> humanoid caves, gorilla trucks, gorilla trucks
> (worms eye view) &
> Jeff & Nova in forest.
>
> I will be uploading some more as soon as I get them
> done.
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>

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weren't there some stuffed human children in the
museum?

Tim

--- LordTZer0@... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 1/2/2005 7:42:36 A.M. Central
> Standard Time,
> sand_hill_school@... writes:
>
> Check out the number of children seen on
> the movie!

Just wanted to let anyone who wants to read (or re-read) Kasey's TV
fan fic story 'Stranger' know that it has been moved from the DG
files section to the Pota Discussion Group Fan Fiction site.
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDiscussionGroupfanfiction/
(A direct link is also on the DG Home Page)

You will find it in the files section in the folder named: Stranger

Thanks,
Neil

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----- Original Message -----

From: Neil

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 3:42 PM

Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Licensing

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Hoknes <terryhoknes@s ...> wrote:
>  Why is it the biggest fans trying to do a good deed lose out in
the end ?
I would like to see Michael put out a comic himself but the whole
point is nobody will guarantee that he even breaks even and in a
sense nobody will care! It's a shame!

-- How true. And it isn't just about the money. Most of the decent
POTA stuff that has been made available in the last few years has
been done by fans for the fans. No one has made any money from these
things, infact some people have lost money!

We sometimes forget how lucky we are that there are other fans
prepared to do all the stuff that has been made available to POTA
fans because most of the big companies don't seem to think it is
worth it!

Neil

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@y...>
wrote:

> Thank you Neil...these are always enjoyable!

-- Not a problem Tim. Like I said I am working on some more at the
moment and will upload them as soon as they are finished.

Neil

Just to clarify Helen...I wsn't really thinking about
a new Apes movie when I was discussing sex and nudity
in films...it was more of a general comment......
In a new movie I personally wouldn't think a mating
scene would be necessary but i do think the wild feral
humans should be naked as they are, as someone else
pointed out, animals.

TIm

>
> In a message dated 1/2/2005 2:26:12 P.M. Central
> Standard Time,
> sand_hill_school@... writes:
>
> That's what I think. But it's not worth doing if
> it doesn't deal
> with serious issues. I think it could win awards
> as a shocking,
> real-life story. But I think it misses point yet
> again if it
> doesn't deal with the human condition.
>
>
>
> That's cool. You don't have to stand in the corner.
> But what I'm saying is, it misses the point if it
> doesn't deal with the dehumanizing condition.
> Taylor has his humanity stripped from him like
> his clothes. And this scene is just another way
> of dehumanizing him. I know you'd like to able
> to have a new POTA that you can discuss with
> the kids. I just think there are too many adult
> themes in the story to make it family friendly.
> The only ones giggling like 10 year olds would
> be the gorillas watching the mating if the scene
> is done right. Maybe Zira. I'd have to get the
> book out to check her attitude towards it. But
> does anyone remember the script that was in
> between the Terry Hayes one and the Broyles
> one? Now that had an interesting treatment
> of that scene -- with Cornelius making jokes
> about the videos being porn. Now that was
> funny! I have it around here somewhere.
> I think Chris Columbus wrote that one.
>
>
>
>
>

__________________________________

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In a message dated 1/2/2005 6:13:02 P.M. Central Standard Time, taebokitti@... writes:

Good story, good actors and a great director is what is needed for the next pota movie

Who are your picks?

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----- Original Message -----

From: LordTZer0@...

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 1:57 PM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Ratings question?

In a message dated 1/2/2005 2:48:10 P.M. Central Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

(except of course Ulysse, who would end up being played by another "young Hollywood" punk...)

 

Yeah, I remember they were talking about Leo DeCraprio playing the

Taylor character.  Personally I didn't think he had the statue, in spite

of The Basketball Diaries, but neither did Marky Mark for that matter.

I still can't see him as Howard Hughes, but I'll probably see it anyway.

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: LordTZer0@...

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 9:30 AM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Ratings question?

In a message dated 12/28/2004 10:27:37 A.M. Central Standard Time, sand_hill_school@... writes:

If a sequel/prequel/conclusion to the Planet of the Apes movie
series were made today, what rating (G, PG, PG13, R) would it need
to have in order to be successful in your opinion?

 

I've said it many times and I'll say it again.  It needs to be R.

There are a lot of adult themes in this thing.  And POTA is,

as you may know, probably the only G rated film in history

with bare-assed scenes in it.  But like Star Wars, POTA

has been tamed down for kids, though the ratings belie

that (Conquest being the anomaly).  There's no denying it.

Kids think talking monkeys are cool.  And Fox played to that,

and Apes suffered because of it.  In order to be taken seriously

as a Sci-fi masterpiece again it has got to go the other way. 

 

I say make it NC-17 with all the sex and violence they can muster.

When I was 7 years old it was the heaviest thing I'd seen to date.

And this would be the only thing that would bring that feeling back

to Apes fans.  The feeling that I was witnessing something ground

breaking.  Something that made you think!  It Wowed audiences,

it was so heavy.  How can you do that now in the 21 century with

a sophisticated desensitized modern audience?  This is the only way.

I say if you can't improve it, don't bother remaking it.  Are you listening

Tim Burton?  I don't think he wanted to make it better, even if he could. 

That's why he failed.

 

 

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"Michael Whitty" <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

>
> Dark Horse are DEFINITELY out - they have very firmly said "NO!".
> They lost a fortune on the POTA2001 comics and the poor fools don't
> see the difference between CLASSIC apes and POTA2001.
>
> Mike, do you have some artwork you could share with us?
>
> And while I would like to see the comics by the fans, for the fans
> too I think I'm coming to my limit of what money I burn in the name
> of POTA!
>
> Michael

Ohhh that's right, I forgot that they did the Burton era Apes comics-
and I think they were behind some POTA statues too (or was it Neca? Oh
well, anyhow..)

Yup I do have some apes art but noting completely done yet. I've
thought about doing a small series of various scenes around the
Planet, beyond Ape City.

I see your point about the print finance situation... and it would be
a shame to be forced to just make photocopied & stapled pages instead
of a full printed comic when the work's more deserving of something
better. Either way, hopefully there's a solution!

Mike

God I hope you are kidding Mith!!! ;)

Michael

>
> ----------
> From: Mithril1960@...[SMTP:MITHRIL1960@...]
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 11:07:52 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Digest Number 1316
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

In a message dated 1/2/2005 4:19:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com writes:

Let's have an R rated pota movie with nudity and sex, but make it a
MUSICAL!


Naw, lets really rock the boat and make it a Hip-Hop Musical.

P Diddy as Taylor
Jennifer (no talent) Lopez as Zira
Beyonce as Nova...

You know who I want to direct T.

Mark Talbott Butler has actually MET Terry Gilliam at parties. I'm
trying to convince MTB to slip him something and sign him up for a new
POTA movie! ;)

Russell Crowe to star.

Michael

>
> ----------
> From: LordTZer0@...[SMTP:LORDTZER0@...]
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 12:15:29 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Ratings question?
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

In a message dated 1/2/2005 6:13:02 P.M. Central Standard Time,
taebokitti@... writes:

Good story, good actors and a great director is what is needed for the
next
pota movie

Who are your picks?

Boy oh boy Terry - I feel for you! I didn't know it was THAT much!

I recall before POTA2001 was released I sent you an email asking "How
much for one of everything" because I anticipated I would like the movie
and collect the merchandise. I then saw the movie - I don't think I
ever got back to you! ;)

You should be able to sue Fox for negligence! ;)

Michael

>
> ----------
> From: Hoknes[SMTP:TERRYHOKNES@...]
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 10:23:29 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Licensing
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

Many people know that I spent $10,000.00 on merchandise for the 2001
movie
and I lost my shirt trying to do my part in promoting the new movie and
its
memorabilia

Why is it the biggest fans trying to do a good deed lose out in the end
?

I would like to see Michael put out a comic himself but the whole point
is
nobody will guarantee that he even breaks even and in a sense nobody
will
care!

It's a shame!

What a talent! ;)

Somebody get the paramedics to Cougar's house.....

Michael

>
> ----------
> From: taebokitti@...[SMTP:TAEBOKITTI@...]
> Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 4:36:33 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Ratings question?
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

Oh,Cougar, be creative. Why not a nude, musical versian of pota? Here's
an
example:
(sung to Rod Stewart's Tonight's the Night)

Dr Zauis: Stay away from my planet
Stay away from my world.

Disconnect your rocket fuel
give up, don't be a fool.

Today's the day
We're all going to be blown away
My human foe
You screwed up
Let simians rule!

repeat chorus.

Elaine

.html.html In a message dated 1/3/05 1:25:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

For those in Florida who were interested in Booth Colman's March appearance in Ft. Lauderdale (it's March 12-13) here's the details. Buck Kartalian (Julius) will be there too.   http://www.spookyempire.com/pop_culture_convention/    - - - Jeff

Oh, yes.  That's going to be at the Holiday Inn next to the airport.  I went to one of those things several years ago.  Saw Robert Vaughn and Butch Patrick and that chick who was Tabitha on "Bewitched."  Didn't talk to any of them.  If you're not buying their signed photos they really don't want to hear from you, and I never know what to say to them.

How do you handle these things, Jeff?

-- Rory<.html <.html

There are some active polls in the polls section of the site:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/polls . I notice one
poll has 22 responses! Maybe YOU have an opinion?

If you are visiting the DG directly from the board, rather than
receiving emails or daily digests, you always have access to the
homepage image, the message archive, the files, the photos, the
links, the database, and the polls by clicking on the section you'd
like to visit. There is even a chat feature. (Has anyone ever used
this?)

If you visit via the internet through the homepage
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG you will have easy
access to the group's other collections. There is a link to Beware
the Beast, Within the Planet of the Apes, and Going Home (all
original fan created pota comics)! You will also find links to our
fan fiction group, our photo gallery, and our archives.

So, head on over to the POTADG homepage
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG , record your opinions
in a poll, create a poll yourself if there is something you'd like
to know from other members, and check out all the stuff. There is a
lot here to amuse and amaze you.

--Helen

I am wondering if there are other fan created comics either posted
or existing in the minds of other members of this group? I know we
have seen some of Jeff's comics in the past. Are there any in our
files? Also, I know that there are some really capable artists and
writers amongst us who have probably put something together for
their own amusement. Anyone want to share?

If we already have a folder for this stuff, would someone please
direct me to it. In the meantime, I would just encourage anyone who
has something they would like to share to post it in the files
section and call our attention to it.

I'm really enjoying the comics we have going now. Nice work Neil
and Michael (and Dave Ballard, too). Thanks for the efforts on our
behalf.

--Helen

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In a message dated 1/2/2005 6:13:02 P.M. Central Standard Time, taebokitti@... writes:

Good story, good actors and a great director is what is needed for the next pota movie

Who are your picks?  For director, I would probably choose Peter Jackson. For the human lead I would choose Harrison Ford (before he gets too up there in age). I prefer the older male actors to the younger ones. I would like to see a fan write the story but I know this is unrealistic. I would like to see more character development.

 

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The following PotaDG poll is now closed. Here are the
final results:


POLL QUESTION: Instead of the world blowing up at the
end of the movie Beneath pota, the apes
and mutants reach an agreement. The
mutants will live in the forbidden zone
and not be bothered by the apes. Where
would you choose to live?

CHOICES AND RESULTS
- live underground with the mutants, 2 votes, 9.09%
- in the jungle with the wild humans, 16 votes, 72.73%
- as a slave for the apes, 4 votes, 18.18%



For more information about this group, please visit
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG

For help with Yahoo! Groups, please visit
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/

The following PotaDG poll is now closed. Here are the
final results:


POLL QUESTION: Andrew Lloyd Webber has done it
finally,like on the Simpsons he has
created a musical stage production of
pota. What should this musical be a
production of?

CHOICES AND RESULTS
- the original film, 5 votes, 62.50%
- Beneath the Planet of the Apes, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Escape From the Planet of the Apes, 1 votes, 12.50%
- Conquest of the Planet of the Apes, 1 votes, 12.50%
- Battle for the planet of the Apes, 0 votes, 0.00%
- Planet of the Apes 2001, 0 votes, 0.00%
- the TV Show, 0 votes, 0.00%
- return to the Planet of the apes, the cartoon, 0 votes, 0.00%
- a new story, 1 votes, 12.50%



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Hmmm. Some people chose to live underground with the mutants? I
think I chose to live in the jungle with my relatives! I guess that
doesn't provide much security, but it did seem to offer more freedom
and opportunity.

I notice you have a poll going in the other POTA group. What do you
have in store for us here at the DG?

Thanks, Elaine, for sharing your story with us and allowing us to be
a part of you writing process.

--Helen

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, PotaDG@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
>
> The following PotaDG poll is now closed. Here are the
> final results:
>
>
> POLL QUESTION: Instead of the world blowing up at the
> end of the movie Beneath pota, the apes
> and mutants reach an agreement. The
> mutants will live in the forbidden zone
> and not be bothered by the apes. Where
> would you choose to live?
>
> CHOICES AND RESULTS
> - live underground with the mutants, 2 votes, 9.09%
> - in the jungle with the wild humans, 16 votes, 72.73%
> - as a slave for the apes, 4 votes, 18.18%

Hi Guys!!!

After the screaming nightmare of constant work for the last few
months and the even more painful ordeal of Christmas, I've
resurfaced and had some fun opening up my first EBay account.

Guess what I searched for first of all?

Wow! There are some interesting (and CHEAP) POTA goodies over
there. I've been bidding for some lovely stuff (yes Cougar, that is
me asking for your ESCAPE soundtrack CD, and no Michael, I will
NEVER buy any dolls).

Anyway, this has encouraged me to attempt to co-ordinate my POTA
memorabilia collection -- which is considerable as I sit back and
look at it.

I did find one thing I wanted to throw out there to you all to see
if anyone had any more info on the subject.

It's a fanzine called "APESFAN".

I have a copy of a $7 "Special Edition" that's mainly a tribute to
Roddy at the time of his death. It's published by a guy called
George R. Reis in NY state and I wondered if anyone knew anything of
it?

It's beautifully researched and presented, jam-packed with info, and
when I purchased the single copy over here the dealer had no idea of
its origin either.

Anyone know?

All the Best from London,

Mark T-B.

Apesfan put out 2 issues and did a superb professional job just as I winding
down Ape Chronicles originally back in 1998/99

Unfortunately they are not active in POTA anymore but I loved their work

> After the screaming nightmare of constant work for the last few
> months and the even more painful ordeal of Christmas, I've
> resurfaced and had some fun opening up my first EBay account.
>
> Guess what I searched for first of all?
>
> Wow! There are some interesting (and CHEAP) POTA goodies over
> there. I've been bidding for some lovely stuff (yes Cougar, that is
> me asking for your ESCAPE soundtrack CD, and no Michael, I will
> NEVER buy any dolls).
>
> Anyway, this has encouraged me to attempt to co-ordinate my POTA
> memorabilia collection -- which is considerable as I sit back and
> look at it.
>
> I did find one thing I wanted to throw out there to you all to see
> if anyone had any more info on the subject.
>
> It's a fanzine called "APESFAN".
>
> I have a copy of a $7 "Special Edition" that's mainly a tribute to
> Roddy at the time of his death. It's published by a guy called
> George R. Reis in NY state and I wondered if anyone knew anything of
> it?
>
> It's beautifully researched and presented, jam-packed with info, and
> when I purchased the single copy over here the dealer had no idea of
> its origin either.
>
> Anyone know?
>
> All the Best from London,
>
> Mark T-B.
>
>
>
>

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.html london calling  you can contact me at goapebilly@...<.html

I have the "How Milo Found The Ship" comic by Mike McColm at work - I am
heading there now so I'll try to upload it to the files from there.

Michael

> ----------
> From: ape_mom[SMTP:SAND_HILL_SCHOOL@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 3:13:29 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] fan-made comics...
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

I am wondering if there are other fan created comics either posted
or existing in the minds of other members of this group? I know we
have seen some of Jeff's comics in the past. Are there any in our
files? Also, I know that there are some really capable artists and
writers amongst us who have probably put something together for
their own amusement. Anyone want to share?

If we already have a folder for this stuff, would someone please
direct me to it. In the meantime, I would just encourage anyone who
has something they would like to share to post it in the files
section and call our attention to it.

I'm really enjoying the comics we have going now. Nice work Neil
and Michael (and Dave Ballard, too). Thanks for the efforts on our
behalf.

--Helen

Lovely to have you back Mark.

Michael

>
> ----------
> From: sparkytb2005[SMTP:SPARKYTB@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 7:25:37 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] MTB resurfaces + fanzine query
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

Hi Guys!!!

After the screaming nightmare of constant work for the last few
months and the even more painful ordeal of Christmas, I've
resurfaced and had some fun opening up my first EBay account.

Guess what I searched for first of all?

Wow! There are some interesting (and CHEAP) POTA goodies over
there. I've been bidding for some lovely stuff (yes Cougar, that is
me asking for your ESCAPE soundtrack CD, and no Michael, I will
NEVER buy any dolls).

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In a message dated 1/3/2005 7:05:24 A.M. Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

Russell Crowe to star. 

 

What accent?

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In a message dated 1/3/2005 7:05:24 A.M. Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

Russell Crowe to star. 

But seriously,

I think Taylor is probably the hardest

to cast.  I can see Crowe as Ben Hur,

but not Taylor, or Moses for that matter.

 

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In a message dated 1/3/2005 7:35:02 A.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

and that chick who was Tabitha on "Bewitched

How did she turn out?

Weren't they twins?

 

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:

> If we already have a folder for this stuff, would someone please

direct me to it. In the meantime, I would just encourage anyone who
has something they would like to share to post it in the files
section and call our attention to it.

Quite a while ago I created a folder in our files section
called 'Members' Art gallery' (A place where members can upload
their Original POTA artwork) and was hoping other members of the
group would be encouraged to upload examples of their art to it.
Unfortunately it seems only one other person apart from me has done
so.
It would be great to see some more stuff from others.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:

> I'm really enjoying the comics we have going now. Nice work Neil

and Michael (and Dave Ballard, too).

-- Thanks Helen. I would just like to point out though that as good
as Dave's efforts on Beast were he has chosen not to be a part of
the comics team any more for personal reasons and has had absolutely
nothing to do with the two stories we currently have going.

Neil

Thanks, Neil. I went over and found it. I'm not good at doing this
link thing, but here is the link:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Members%27%20Art%
20gallery/

hope it works


I do hope people will contribute to the file. I'll check over there
later for the comic that Michael was going to post.

--Helen

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> wrote:
> > If we already have a folder for this stuff, would someone please
> direct me to it. In the meantime, I would just encourage anyone
who
> has something they would like to share to post it in the files
> section and call our attention to it.
>
> Quite a while ago I created a folder in our files section
> called 'Members' Art gallery' (A place where members can upload
> their Original POTA artwork) and was hoping other members of the
> group would be encouraged to upload examples of their art to it.
> Unfortunately it seems only one other person apart from me has
done
> so.
> It would be great to see some more stuff from others.
>
> Neil

Sorry, Neil. You're right. I meant to imply that with the
parenthesis, but it's good that you clarified.

--Helen

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> wrote:
> > I'm really enjoying the comics we have going now. Nice work
Neil
> and Michael (and Dave Ballard, too).
>
> -- Thanks Helen. I would just like to point out though that as
good
> as Dave's efforts on Beast were he has chosen not to be a part of
> the comics team any more for personal reasons and has had
absolutely
> nothing to do with the two stories we currently have going.
>
> Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "sparkytb2005" <sparkytb@h...> wrote:

>Hi Guys!!!

After the screaming nightmare of constant work for the last few
months and the even more painful ordeal of Christmas, I've
resurfaced and had some fun opening up my first EBay account.

-- Hi Mark, we were getting a bit worried about you, not like you to
be quiet for so long! ;-)

If you are wondering what happened to the nice picture you cleaned
up for us we had to move it (along with quite a few other files) to
free up space in the main group's files section.
It now resides in the files section of the Planet of the Apes DG
Photos group.
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDiscussionGroupphotos/

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Hoknes <terryhoknes@s...> wrote:

> Apesfan put out 2 issues and did a superb professional job just as

I winding

> down Ape Chronicles originally back in 1998/99
>
> Unfortunately they are not active in POTA anymore but I loved

their work


Hi Terry,

Whitty told me to speak to you concerning the RETURN DVDs.

If you didn't catch my last e-mail can you send details of purchase
to:

sparkytb@...

... so I can fire off some $$$ to you via paypal and get a set??

Cheers,

Mark T-B.

To all our recently joined new members - welcome!
Please feel free to jump in and contribute if a subject takes your
fancy, or start one up yourself!

MAKE SURE YOU GO TO THE HOMEPAGE AND READ THE NEW PLANET OF THE APES
TV SHOW COMIC BOOK - GOING HOME!!!

Go to the homepage, scroll down to around the middle of the page and
click on the link underneath the logo....this will take you to the
PDF file of the first 3 pages.

Another new ongoing comic strip called WITHIN THE PLANET OF THE APES
can be found in the files section of the group or you can just click
on the handy links on the Home Page to view the latest and previous
chapters!

Don't forget we also have 3 other groups 'attached' to the main one.

First up there is the DG Archives group:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDiscussionGrouparchives/
This group was created to store old posts from the group which have
been deleted from the main site. We have to do this periodically to
free up space as Yahoo does not allot much space to the groups
anymore.
As this group is so active we tend to fill up very quickly and
instead of losing old posts forever we like to keep a copy of them
all. They can be found in the Files section listed by month and
year .


There is also the DG Fan Fiction group where members can place, in
the group's Files section, their Fan Fiction stories, poems etc. to
be enjoyed by all:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDiscussionGroupfanfiction/


Finally there's the Photos group:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDiscussionGroupphotos/
Where photos and files are occasionally moved to save space on the
main DG group

All the sites can be easily accessed via the links on each one's
Home Page.

And don't forget to check out the DG group's vast Photos section and
all that great stuff in the Files section.
While you're here why not participate in a Poll or check out all
those wonderful links and generally have a fun filled family
experience!

Neil

-Yes the Ari/Leo/Daena love triangle was so
silly.....Deana was all huffy everytime Ari was with
Leo...Ari looked at Leo with flirty eyes and Leo ws
oblivious to the whole thing ...he just wanted to get
out of there.......

Tim

-- taebokitti@... wrote:

> Good post ,Jeff. I agree with you on these points.
> One of things I would
> change with Pota 2001 is the lack of character
> development. The Ari/Leo
> relationship is never really fully developed in any
> direction. As many have stated
> before this is a common problem with movies lately,
> too much special effects and
> not enough good story and character development.
> Elaine
>

__________________________________

Actually Crowe would make a damn fine gorilla...
Tim


--- LordTZer0@... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 1/3/2005 7:05:24 A.M. Central
> Standard Time,
> whitty@... writes:
>
> Russell Crowe to star.
>
>
> But seriously,
> I think Taylor is probably the hardest
> to cast. I can see Crowe as Ben Hur,
> but not Taylor, or Moses for that matter.
>
>

__________________________________

Her name is Erin Murphy and I happened to see her when
I attended a taping of Rosie O'Donnel's show a fe
years ago....she was pretty hot.....er...I mean quite
attractive.....! She was hocking a book about
Bewitched and a Bewitched statue....

Tim---

LordTZer0@... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 1/3/2005 7:35:02 A.M. Central
> Standard Time,
> Haristas@... writes:
>
> and that chick who was Tabitha on "Bewitched
>
>
> How did she turn out?
> Weren't they twins?
>
>

__________________________________

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
group.

File : /Members' Art gallery/galen copy2.jpg
Uploaded by : apefan23 <apefan23@...>
Description : Zira and Dr. Galen

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Members%27%20Art%20gallery/galen%20copy2.jpg

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

Regards,

apefan23 <apefan23@...>

I just added one I did in 1974 or 75...I'll try and
dig out others..
Tim

--- Neil <nfoster@...> wrote:

>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom"
> <sand_hill_school@y...>
> wrote:
> > If we already have a folder for this stuff, would
> someone please
> direct me to it. In the meantime, I would just
> encourage anyone who
> has something they would like to share to post it in
> the files
> section and call our attention to it.
>
> Quite a while ago I created a folder in our files
> section
> called 'Members' Art gallery' (A place where members
> can upload
> their Original POTA artwork) and was hoping other
> members of the
> group would be encouraged to upload examples of
> their art to it.
> Unfortunately it seems only one other person apart
> from me has done
> so.
> It would be great to see some more stuff from
> others.
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>

__________________________________

.html.html In a message dated 1/3/05 6:25:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:

Her name is Erin Murphy and I happened to see her when
I attended a taping of Rosie O'Donnel's show a fe
years ago....she was pretty hot.....er...I mean quite
attractive.....! She was hocking a book about
Bewitched and a Bewitched statue....

Tim---

Yeah, she was pretty hot.  I could kick myself now that I didn't talk to her because I remembered later that Maurice "Dr. Zaius" Evans was a semi-regular on that show and I wondered if she remembered him, but she probably doesn't remember much.

-- Rory<.html <.html

I was wondering what happened to those...

Tim

--- sparkytb2005 <sparkytb@...> wrote:

>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Hoknes
> <terryhoknes@s...> wrote:
> > Apesfan put out 2 issues and did a superb
> professional job just as
> I winding
> > down Ape Chronicles originally back in 1998/99
> >
> > Unfortunately they are not active in POTA anymore
> but I loved
> their work
>
>
> Hi Terry,
>
> Whitty told me to speak to you concerning the RETURN
> DVDs.
>
> If you didn't catch my last e-mail can you send
> details of purchase
> to:
>
> sparkytb@...
>
> ... so I can fire off some $$$ to you via paypal and
> get a set??
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark T-B.
>
>
>
>
>

__________________________________

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, PotaDG@yahoogroups.com wrote:

>Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that a file has
been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG group.

> File : /Members' Art gallery/galen copy2.jpg
> Uploaded by : apefan23 <apefan23@y...>
> Description : Zira and Dr. Galen
>
> You can access this file at the URL:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Members%27%20Art%

20gallery/galen%20copy2.jpg

-- Great picture Tim, thanks for uploading it. Now come on the rest
of you, get drawing!

Neil

Don't know what happened to her twin sister who also
palyed Tabitha but Erin got the credit. I wonder if
she did remember Evans?

Tim

--- Haristas@... wrote:

> In a message dated 1/3/05 6:25:48 PM Eastern
> Standard Time,
> apefan23@... writes:
>
>
> > Her name is Erin Murphy and I happened to see her
> when
> > I attended a taping of Rosie O'Donnel's show a fe
> > years ago....she was pretty hot.....er...I mean
> quite
> > attractive.....! She was hocking a book about
> > Bewitched and a Bewitched statue....
> >
> > Tim---
> >
>
> Yeah, she was pretty hot. I could kick myself now
> that I didn't talk to her
> because I remembered later that Maurice "Dr. Zaius"
> Evans was a semi-regular
> on that show and I wondered if she remembered him,
> but she probably doesn't
> remember much.
>
> -- Rory
>

__________________________________

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@y...>
wrote:

> I just added one I did in 1974 or 75...I'll try and dig out

others..

-- Hey Tim if you did this back then I would love to see something
you have done recently! You do still draw I hope?

Neil

I've noticed that the other yahoo apes board has it's own seperate
gallery site. It'd be cool to combine everyone's together,
categorized by artist name. Just an idea, though I'm not sure which
direction to go about doing that.

Mike

Nice work, Tim!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, PotaDG@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
>
> This email message is a notification to let you know that
> a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
> group.
>
> File : /Members' Art gallery/galen copy2.jpg
> Uploaded by : apefan23 <apefan23@y...>
> Description : Zira and Dr. Galen
>
> You can access this file at the URL:
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Members%27%20Art%20gallery/galen%20copy2.jpg

>
> To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
> http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files
>
> Regards,
>
> apefan23 <apefan23@y...>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:

> Lovely to have you back Mark.
>
> Michael

++++ Cheers buddy.

Nice to be back.

MT-B.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , LordTZer0@A... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 1/3/2005 7:05:24 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> whitty@c... writes:
>
> Russell Crowe to star.
>
>
>
> What accent?

Mid-atlantic would be most agreeable, don't you think?

MT-B

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:

>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "sparkytb2005" <sparkytb@h...>

wrote:

> >Hi Guys!!!
> After the screaming nightmare of constant work for the last few
> months and the even more painful ordeal of Christmas, I've
> resurfaced and had some fun opening up my first EBay account.
>
> -- Hi Mark, we were getting a bit worried about you, not like you

to

> be quiet for so long! ;-)
>
> If you are wondering what happened to the nice picture you cleaned
> up for us we had to move it (along with quite a few other files)

to

> free up space in the main group's files section.
> It now resides in the files section of the Planet of the Apes DG
> Photos group.
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDiscussionGroupphotos/
>
> Neil

+++ Thanks to all of you luvly people at the DG for the warm welcome
back. I really appreciate it.

Neil, the only reason I slaved over that fab pic of Brent's ship was
to try and get Whitty to use it on the home page -- if only for a
few days....!

Whitty?

MT-B.