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In a message dated 1/3/2005 5:26:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, PotaDG@yahoogroups.com writes:

But seriously,
I think Taylor is probably the hardest
to cast.  I can see Crowe as Ben Hur,
but not Taylor, or Moses for that matter.

I'd cast Christopher Walken as Taylor.

 

 

Imagine there's no countries,It isn't hard to do.
Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too.
Imagine all the people, Living life in peace...

John Lennon - Imagine

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.html.html In a message dated 1/3/05 7:04:23 PM Eastern Standard Time, Mithril1960@... writes:

I'd cast Christopher Walken as Taylor.

Too old now!  Somebody like Matthew Modine would be better.

-- Rory<.html <.html

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In a message dated 1/3/2005 10:32:00 A.M. Central Standard Time, taebokitti@... writes:

The Ari/Leo relationship is never really fully developed in any direction.

 

Yeah, I think Wahlberg started the rumor that it was to generated publicity.

either that or the higher ups put pressure on Burton to tone it down some.

 

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 1/3/05 7:04:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> Mithril1960@a... writes:
>
>
> > I'd cast Christopher Walken as Taylor.
> >
>
> Too old now! Somebody like Matthew Modine would be better.
>
> -- Rory

Rory --

Modine's a wimp -- and he looks like a teenager in the way DiCaprio
always will -- regardless of talent.

This concept requires maturity. Try looking across the pond to
actors like Colin Farrell or Clive Owen.

More interesting and mature, IMHO.

Mark.

.html.html In a message dated 1/3/05 7:40:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, sparkytb@... writes:

Rory --

Modine's a wimp -- and he looks like a teenager in the way DiCaprio
always will -- regardless of talent.

This concept requires maturity.  Try looking across the pond to
actors like Colin Farrell or Clive Owen.

More interesting and mature, IMHO.

Mark.

A limey play Taylor?!!!  No @*#*!!! way!

No, have you seen Modine lately?  He's looking a lot older.  I'd suggest Jeff Bridges, but he's too old now too.

What about that guy from the dragon movie?  Matthew Something or other.

-- Rory<.html <.html

Nice! Thanks, Tim.

--Helen


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@y...>
wrote:

> I just added one I did in 1974 or 75...I'll try and
> dig out others..
> Tim
>
> --- Neil <nfoster@h...> wrote:
>
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom"
> > <sand_hill_school@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > If we already have a folder for this stuff, would
> > someone please
> > direct me to it. In the meantime, I would just
> > encourage anyone who
> > has something they would like to share to post it in
> > the files
> > section and call our attention to it.
> >
> > Quite a while ago I created a folder in our files
> > section
> > called 'Members' Art gallery' (A place where members
> > can upload
> > their Original POTA artwork) and was hoping other
> > members of the
> > group would be encouraged to upload examples of
> > their art to it.
> > Unfortunately it seems only one other person apart
> > from me has done
> > so.
> > It would be great to see some more stuff from
> > others.
> >
> > Neil
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________

Welcome back, Mark! We have missed you!

--Helen

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "sparkytb2005" <sparkytb@h...> wrote:
>
> Hi Guys!!!
>
> After the screaming nightmare of constant work for the last few
> months and the even more painful ordeal of Christmas, I've
> resurfaced and had some fun opening up my first EBay account.
>
> Guess what I searched for first of all?
>
> Wow! There are some interesting (and CHEAP) POTA goodies over
> there. I've been bidding for some lovely stuff (yes Cougar, that
is
> me asking for your ESCAPE soundtrack CD, and no Michael, I will
> NEVER buy any dolls).
>
> Anyway, this has encouraged me to attempt to co-ordinate my POTA
> memorabilia collection -- which is considerable as I sit back and
> look at it.
>
> I did find one thing I wanted to throw out there to you all to see
> if anyone had any more info on the subject.
>
> It's a fanzine called "APESFAN".
>
> I have a copy of a $7 "Special Edition" that's mainly a tribute to
> Roddy at the time of his death. It's published by a guy called
> George R. Reis in NY state and I wondered if anyone knew anything
of
> it?
>
> It's beautifully researched and presented, jam-packed with info,
and
> when I purchased the single copy over here the dealer had no idea
of
> its origin either.
>
> Anyone know?
>
> All the Best from London,
>
> Mark T-B.

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In a message dated 1/3/2005 5:18:01 P.M. Central Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:

-Yes the Ari/Leo/Daena love triangle was so
silly.....Deana was all huffy everytime Ari was with
Leo...Ari looked at Leo with flirty eyes and Leo ws
oblivious to the whole thing ...he just wanted to get
out of there.......

 

You left out the psychic catfight between Ari and Deana over Leo.

A lot of the exposition on that was left out, but it wasn't all on the

cutting room floor.  That put it in the deleted scenes on the DVD.

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Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
PotaDG group:

Considering the high quality of UStv
drama today - compared with the low
quality of feature films, what would
you REALLY rather see?

o A new big budget Hollywood feature
o A new medium budget feature
o A new Apes show from the networks
o A new Apes show from HBO
o A new Apes show from the Sci-Fi Channel
o Terry Gilliam taking the slightest interest
o Leave it alone. We're done already


To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/surveys?id=1606579

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.

Thanks!

Yes! I totally agree! Great choice!

--Helen

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Mithril1960@a... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 1/3/2005 5:26:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> PotaDG@yahoogroups.com writes:
>
> But seriously,
> I think Taylor is probably the hardest
> to cast. I can see Crowe as Ben Hur,
> but not Taylor, or Moses for that matter.
>
>
>
> I'd cast Christopher Walken as Taylor.
>
>
> Imagine there's no countries,It isn't hard to do.
> Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too.
> Imagine all the people, Living life in peace...
>
> John Lennon - Imagine

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In a message dated 1/3/2005 5:26:03 P.M. Central Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:

Her name is Erin Murphy

 

She was a twin though

Her sister's name was Diane Murphy.

THey have to have twins for kids that

young because of the child labor laws.

 

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In a message dated 1/3/2005 5:26:03 P.M. Central Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:

she was pretty hot.....er...I mean quite
attractive.....!

Any resemblance to Elizabeth "Samantha" Montgomery?

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In a message dated 1/3/2005 5:53:19 P.M. Central Standard Time, sparkytb@... writes:

Mid-atlantic would be most agreeable, don't you think?

 

I was thinking the accent he used in A Beautiful Mind

would be a good astronaut, but not so heavy.

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In a message dated 1/3/2005 6:04:17 P.M. Central Standard Time, Mithril1960@... writes:

I'd cast Christopher Walken as Taylor.

He can do over the top, but he's a bit creepy.

Val Kilmer does over the top -- Doc Holiday

and he's not quite as creepy as Walken.

 

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To All --

I posted a "fantasy poll" tonight -- and took the first vote.

My Sci-Fi Channel bias comes from the fact that the new BATTLESTAR
GALACTICA has almost finished here in the UK, and it is one of the
most compelling and beautiful shows - SF or not - that I've EVER
seen.

US viewers -- you chaps are in for a BIG treat!!

(OT topic stuff over).

Mark T-B.

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In a message dated 1/3/2005 6:48:24 P.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

A limey play Taylor?!!!  No @*#*!!! way!

 

He's not a limey.

He's from New Zealand.

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> He can do over the top, but he's a bit creepy.
> Val Kilmer does over the top -- Doc Holiday
> and he's not quite as creepy as Walken.

Says you!

Hunter

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 1/3/05 7:40:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> sparkytb@h... writes:
>
>
> > Rory --
> >
> > Modine's a wimp -- and he looks like a teenager in the way

DiCaprio

> > always will -- regardless of talent.
> >
> > This concept requires maturity. Try looking across the pond to
> > actors like Colin Farrell or Clive Owen.
> >
> > More interesting and mature, IMHO.
> >
> > Mark.
> >
>
> A limey play Taylor?!!! No @*#*!!! way!
>
> No, have you seen Modine lately? He's looking a lot older. I'd

suggest Jeff

> Bridges, but he's too old now too.
>
> What about that guy from the dragon movie? Matthew Something or

other.

>
> -- Rory

Dude -- if a limey like me can accept Renee Z and Gwyneth doing
BRILLIANT British accents -- what's wrong with Colin? He kicks butt.

Dragon movie? You don't mean the superb Dennis Quaid do you?

Now HE would be a good choice. An effortless actor, in my opinion.

Mark.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , LordTZer0@A... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 1/3/2005 6:04:17 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> Mithril1960@a... writes:
>
> I'd cast Christopher Walken as Taylor.
>
>
> He can do over the top, but he's a bit creepy.
> Val Kilmer does over the top -- Doc Holiday
> and he's not quite as creepy as Walken.

++++ Val Kilmer is amazing. Rent WONDERLAND now!!

Apologies to Whittster for the OTs. I'll stop now.

Love,

Mark.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , LordTZer0@A... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 1/3/2005 6:48:24 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> Haristas@a... writes:
>
> A limey play Taylor?!!! No @*#*!!! way!
>
>
>
>
> He's not a limey.
> He's from New Zealand.

T - Farrell's Irish -- and I thought Owen was English.

Am I wrong?

Yours,

Mark.

.html.html In a message dated 1/3/05 8:27:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, sparkytb@... writes:

Dude -- if a limey like me can accept Renee Z and Gwyneth doing
BRILLIANT British accents -- what's wrong with Colin?  He kicks butt.

Colin is a narcissistic dope!

Dragon movie?  You don't mean the superb Dennis Quaid do you?

Now HE would be a good choice.  An effortless actor, in my opinion.

No, I meant that movie where the dragons were turning your limey country into toast!  You know, that redneck actor that got eaten in the end!

-- Rory<.html <.html

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In a message dated 1/3/2005 7:32:26 P.M. Central Standard Time, sparkytb@... writes:

++++ Val Kilmer is amazing. Rent WONDERLAND now!!

 

It's on my list.

Along with

Second Hand Lions

and

Neapolitan Dynamite

 

 

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In a message dated 1/3/2005 7:31:28 P.M. Central Standard Time, sparkytb@... writes:

Farrell's Irish -- and I thought Owen was English.

Am I wrong?

 

I don't know.  I was talking about Crowe.

 

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , goapebilly@a... wrote:

> london calling you can contact me at goapebilly@a...

Hey goapebilly,

I have no problem posting my personal e-mail. If you want to get
hold of me, write:

sparkytb@...

Cheers,

Mark.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@a... wrote:

>
> Colin is a narcissistic dope!

+++ Yeah, but wasn't Taylor as well?

> > Dragon movie? You don't mean the superb Dennis Quaid do you?
> >
> > Now HE would be a good choice. An effortless actor, in my

opinion.

>
> No, I meant that movie where the dragons were turning your limey

country into

> toast! You know, that redneck actor that got eaten in the end!
>
> -- Rory

++++ You mean Matthew McConaughey. Now he's brilliant. You were
talking about that OK flick "REIGN OF FIRE". I seem to remember he
was ably assisted in that film by the great British actor Christian
Bale, who is currently making BATMAN BEGINS with the great British
director Christopher Nolan.

Watch and weep as two Limeys make the first real Batman movie where
all you Yanks have failed. ;)

Ha Ha!!! ;)

Mark.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , LordTZer0@A... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 1/3/2005 7:32:26 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> sparkytb@h... writes:
>
> ++++ Val Kilmer is amazing. Rent WONDERLAND now!!
>
>
>
> It's on my list.
> Along with
> Second Hand Lions
> and
> Neapolitan Dynamite

T -- thanks for the Michael Caine film, but Neapolitan I can find no
reference for. What is it?

Mark.

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In a message dated 1/3/2005 8:03:16 P.M. Central Standard Time, sparkytb@... writes:

T -- thanks for the Michael Caine film, but Neapolitan I can find no
reference for. What is it?

Sorry, I need to spell check more carefully.

It should be Nepoleon Dynamite.

 

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Tim,

You have quite an artistic talent my friend! How old were you when you
did this?

Neil, looks like we have found someone to do pencils & you ink!

Tim, you really should have a go at the COMICS TEST PAGE!

Michael

>
> ----------
> From: ape_mom[SMTP:SAND_HILL_SCHOOL@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 11:49:11 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: fan-made comics...
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

Nice! Thanks, Tim.

--Helen


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@y...>
wrote:

> I just added one I did in 1974 or 75...I'll try and
> dig out others..
> Tim

I think the Sci-Fi Channel is the best hope for POTA, so I don't think
anything re great shows there is OT! OK, MTB?

MW, POTADG.

>
> ----------
> From: sparkytb2005[SMTP:SPARKYTB@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 12:17:22 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] New poll (+OT)
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

To All --

I posted a "fantasy poll" tonight -- and took the first vote.

My Sci-Fi Channel bias comes from the fact that the new BATTLESTAR
GALACTICA has almost finished here in the UK, and it is one of the
most compelling and beautiful shows - SF or not - that I've EVER
seen.

US viewers -- you chaps are in for a BIG treat!!

(OT topic stuff over).

Mark T-B.

.html.html In a message dated 1/3/05 8:50:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, sparkytb@... writes:

Watch and weep as two Limeys make the first real Batman movie where
all you Yanks have failed.  ;)

Ha Ha!!!   ;)

Mark.

I actually have nothing against limeys.  I was just putting you on.

-- Rory<.html <.html

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , LordTZer0@A... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 1/3/2005 8:03:16 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> sparkytb@h... writes:
>
> T -- thanks for the Michael Caine film, but Neapolitan I can find

no

> reference for. What is it?
>
>
> Sorry, I need to spell check more carefully.
> It should be Nepoleon Dynamite.

+++ Thanks T.

Just bought both from Play on your recommendation. I have a sneaky
feeling we both like the same kind of thing.

Again, thanks!!

Mark T-B.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:

> I think the Sci-Fi Channel is the best hope for POTA, so I don't

think

> anything re great shows there is OT! OK, MTB?
>
> MW, POTADG.

+++ I was just being a gentleman -- and respectful to our subject
and our group.

OK, MW???????? ;)

MT-B

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:

> I think the Sci-Fi Channel is the best hope for POTA

++++ Talking of the SciFi Channel....

Galactica, Galactica, Galactica.

OK so I don't wish to brag -- and the world knows that the Limeys
got it before the rest of the universe -- but the show is so good
it's enough to make grown men drop to their knees and weep.

Kinda got excited like I did in 1974 when I first saw ESCAPE FROM
TOMORROW.

Yes!

MT-B.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 1/3/05 8:50:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> sparkytb@h... writes:
>
>
> > Watch and weep as two Limeys make the first real Batman movie

where

> > all you Yanks have failed. ;)
> >
> > Ha Ha!!! ;)
> >
> > Mark.
> >
>
> I actually have nothing against limeys. I was just putting you on.
>
> -- Rory

+++ (Rory, my friend -- I knew that... ;) )

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In a message dated 1/3/2005 9:55:40 P.M. Central Standard Time, sparkytb@... writes:

Just bought both from Play on your recommendation. I have a sneaky
feeling we both like the same kind of thing.

 

I can't really recommend them.

I haven't seen them yet.  That's

why their on my list.  List of

things to rent that is.  Now what

was the other one someone mentioned?

 

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In a message dated 1/3/2005 8:03:16 P.M. Central Standard Time, sparkytb@... writes:

++++ Val  Kilmer is amazing. Rent WONDERLAND now!!

Oh yeah!

I'm going to have to write his down and make a trip

to the video store.  I'm sure there's a couple I wanted

to see that I've forgotten about.  I think the last movie

I rented was Bubba Ho-Tep.

 

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PO, MTB. ;)

MW POTADG

>
> ----------
> From: sparkytb2005[SMTP:SPARKYTB@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 2:51:36 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: OT or not OT? TITQ....
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> I think the Sci-Fi Channel is the best hope for POTA, so I don't
think
> anything re great shows there is OT! OK, MTB?
>
> MW, POTADG.


+++ I was just being a gentleman -- and respectful to our subject
and our group.

OK, MW???????? ;)

MT-B

Not like him to be quiet EVER!!! ;)

Michael xoxox

> ----------
> From: Neil[SMTP:NFOSTER@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 9:47:42 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: MTB resurfaces + fanzine query
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "sparkytb2005" <sparkytb@h...> wrote:
>Hi Guys!!!
After the screaming nightmare of constant work for the last few
months and the even more painful ordeal of Christmas, I've
resurfaced and had some fun opening up my first EBay account.

-- Hi Mark, we were getting a bit worried about you, not like you to
be quiet for so long! ;-)

Haven't done an ape drawing in years!.....mostly paint
now...I'll have to see what I can come up with...

Tim

--- Neil <nfoster@...> wrote:

>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\""
> <apefan23@y...>
> wrote:
> > I just added one I did in 1974 or 75...I'll try
> and dig out
> others..
>
> -- Hey Tim if you did this back then I would love to
> see something
> you have done recently! You do still draw I hope?
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
>

-Thanks Mike!

-- Mike <doctahoot@...> wrote:

>
> Nice work, Tim!
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com,
> PotaDG@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > This email message is a notification to let you
> know that
> > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the
> PotaDG
> > group.
> >
> > File : /Members' Art gallery/galen
> copy2.jpg
> > Uploaded by : apefan23 <apefan23@y...>
> > Description : Zira and Dr. Galen
> >
> > You can access this file at the URL:
> >
>

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Members%27%20Art%20gallery/galen%20copy2.jpg

>
> >
> > To learn more about file sharing for your group,
> please visit:
> > http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > apefan23 <apefan23@y...>
>
>
>
>

__________________________________

-Thank YOU Helen!
TIm

-- ape_mom <sand_hill_school@...> wrote:

>
> Nice! Thanks, Tim.
>
> --Helen
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\""
> <apefan23@y...>
> wrote:
> > I just added one I did in 1974 or 75...I'll try
> and
> > dig out others..
> > Tim
> >
> > --- Neil <nfoster@h...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom"
> > > <sand_hill_school@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > If we already have a folder for this stuff,
> would
> > > someone please
> > > direct me to it. In the meantime, I would just
> > > encourage anyone who
> > > has something they would like to share to post
> it in
> > > the files
> > > section and call our attention to it.
> > >
> > > Quite a while ago I created a folder in our
> files
> > > section
> > > called 'Members' Art gallery' (A place where
> members
> > > can upload
> > > their Original POTA artwork) and was hoping
> other
> > > members of the
> > > group would be encouraged to upload examples of
> > > their art to it.
> > > Unfortunately it seems only one other person
> apart
> > > from me has done
> > > so.
> > > It would be great to see some more stuff from
> > > others.
> > >
> > > Neil
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________

__________________________________

a little yeah! Loved her...especially in her black
witch dress.......................
Tim

--- LordTZer0@... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 1/3/2005 5:26:03 P.M. Central
> Standard Time,
> apefan23@... writes:
>
> she was pretty hot.....er...I mean quite
> attractive.....!
>
>
> Any resemblance to Elizabeth "Samantha" Montgomery?
>

__________________________________

Me too...sorry...

Tim

> Apologies to Whittster for the OTs. I'll stop now.
>
> Love,
>
> Mark.
>
>
>
>

__________________________________

I guess 14 or so.....haven't drawn much lately.....I
could never draw for Neil!!! I'm not worthy....!
Where's the layout for the comics page again....i'll
give it a go when I get some time...

Tim

--- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:

> Tim,
>
> You have quite an artistic talent my friend! How
> old were you when you
> did this?
>
> Neil, looks like we have found someone to do pencils
> & you ink!
>
> Tim, you really should have a go at the COMICS TEST
> PAGE!
>
> Michael
>
> >
> > ----------
> > From: ape_mom[SMTP:SAND_HILL_SCHOOL@...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 11:49:11 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: fan-made comics...
> > Auto forwarded by a Rule
> >
>
> Nice! Thanks, Tim.
>
> --Helen
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\""
> <apefan23@y...>
> wrote:
> > I just added one I did in 1974 or 75...I'll try
> and
> > dig out others..
> > Tim
>
>
>

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In a message dated 1/3/2005 11:53:09 P.M. Central Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:

a little yeah! Loved her...especially in her black
witch dress

I used to think that was her in that spinoff Tabitha.

It wasn't.

 

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , LordTZer0@A... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 1/3/2005 9:55:40 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> sparkytb@h... writes:
>
> Just bought both from Play on your recommendation. I have a

sneaky

> feeling we both like the same kind of thing.
>
>
>
> I can't really recommend them.
> I haven't seen them yet. That's
> why their on my list. List of
> things to rent that is. Now what
> was the other one someone mentioned?

+++ Yeah, I kind of figured that. But they LOOK interesting.
Different and original stuff is what I spend all of my time looking
for. Like you, it seems.

Cheers Buddy,

Mark T-B

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , LordTZer0@A... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 1/3/2005 8:03:16 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> sparkytb@h... writes:
>
> ++++ Val Kilmer is amazing. Rent WONDERLAND now!!
>
>
>
> Oh yeah!
> I'm going to have to write his down and make a trip
> to the video store. I'm sure there's a couple I wanted
> to see that I've forgotten about. I think the last movie
> I rented was Bubba Ho-Tep.

+++ Ah -- that's another one. Thanks for reminding me!

Mark.

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
group.

File : /Comic sample page.doc
Uploaded by : munkeyman63au <nfoster@...>
Description : Comic try out page script

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Comic%20sample%20page.doc

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

Regards,

munkeyman63au <nfoster@...>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@y...>
wrote:

> Where's the layout for the comics page again....i'll give it a go

when I get some time...

-- Tim I have uploaded it to the files section (Comic sample
page.doc)

(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Comic%20sample%
20page.doc)

Neil

Don't worry about it.

This is an unmoderated group now.

If anybody objects, they can tell you (or me if they prefer privacy).

Not one of the 300 odd (no pun intended) members has objected so fire
away.

It is all on the topic of cast and crew for a new POTA movie anyway so
what the hey?

If we get too far off track people WILL complain and we will then need
to do something.

MW POTADG

>
> ----------
> From: Tim "apefan"[SMTP:APEFAN23@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 4:53:42 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Digest Number 1321(OT again, sorry)
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

Me too...sorry...

Tim

> Apologies to Whittster for the OTs. I'll stop now.
>
> Love,
>
> Mark.

Hey, I draw for Neil all the time!

He has to get his laughs somewhere!

The pencils you did, with Neil inking them, is my idea of what a pota
comic SHOULD look like. Well, I mean a PROFESSIONAL publication.

Fan comics can look like....well, whatever!

Mike McColm's comic is an example - it looks fantastic and you can tell
he is a fan. I'd rather read it than stories about Viking Gorillas any
day! But to get it published professionally, other than a private run,
I think the art needs to be a step up. No criticism of the works, I
just would want a bit more (eg Neil inking them - he would make Burke
and Virdon look far more recognisable!). I'm talking perfection here -
I guess I don't take excuses for second best; even if it is a fan
effort.

Terry's comic looks like fun too, but I do hope we get a replacement
artist who draws apes that look more like they do on the movies. I
realise that's Dan's drawing style and that's great - I just like to see
the apes look real. Hope nobody is offended by my honesty - I am just
shooting straight here. I didn't even like Gary Challoner's apes first
time round, but they grew on me and are right up there now with how I
like apes drawn if not like a photo (as Mr Foster does them). Comic
STRIPS should just be fun anyway - like "WITHIN" is - first and foremost
FUN! I really love the ideas for your story Terry. Why doesn't Glen
Scheetz do the art? What I have seen of his stuff looks good - however
they do all seem to be straight from photos so maybe he would find the
imaginative stuff too involving?

Like Dave Ballard's script that we did not use for the TV Show comic -
it was a great story, but it just didn't have enough from the POTA
Universe going on. Nor did BTB when we first got hold of it. It had
one gorilla and a bunch of humans! There was no way in the world Foster
was going to get away with not drawing some of the other characters!

Anyway, we are a spoilt bunch here with all the magnificently talented
individuals we have contributing things that professionals would not be
able to come close to!

Tim - sharpen your pencils buddy!

Michael

>
> ----------
> From: Tim "apefan"[SMTP:APEFAN23@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 4:57:24 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: fan-made comics...
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

I guess 14 or so.....haven't drawn much lately.....I
could never draw for Neil!!! I'm not worthy....!
Where's the layout for the comics page again....i'll
give it a go when I get some time...

Tim

Does he even HAVE an accent any more?

Does Gibson?

Michael

>
> ----------
> From: LordTZer0@...[SMTP:LORDTZER0@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 9:11:38 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Ratings question?
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

In a message dated 1/3/2005 7:05:24 A.M. Central Standard Time,
whitty@... writes:

Russell Crowe to star.


What accent?

I hope the result is somewhat different than that of the series "Escape
From Tomorrow" piloted!

Michael

>
> ----------
> From: sparkytb2005[SMTP:SPARKYTB@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 2:56:40 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: OT or not OT? TITQ....
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> I think the Sci-Fi Channel is the best hope for POTA


++++ Talking of the SciFi Channel....

Galactica, Galactica, Galactica.

OK so I don't wish to brag -- and the world knows that the Limeys
got it before the rest of the universe -- but the show is so good
it's enough to make grown men drop to their knees and weep.

Kinda got excited like I did in 1974 when I first saw ESCAPE FROM
TOMORROW.

Yes!

MT-B.

Neil looks after all that buddy!

Neil?

Michael

>
> ----------
> From: sparkytb2005[SMTP:SPARKYTB@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:56:38 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: MTB resurfaces + fanzine query
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

+++ Thanks to all of you luvly people at the DG for the warm welcome
back. I really appreciate it.

Neil, the only reason I slaved over that fab pic of Brent's ship was
to try and get Whitty to use it on the home page -- if only for a
few days....!

Whitty?

MT-B.

Too old - but he's just such a $#%#ing great actor - he's a king!

Michael

>
> ----------
> From: LordTZer0@...[SMTP:LORDTZER0@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 12:14:46 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Digest Number 1321
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

In a message dated 1/3/2005 6:04:17 P.M. Central Standard Time,
Mithril1960@... writes:

I'd cast Christopher Walken as Taylor.

He can do over the top, but he's a bit creepy.
Val Kilmer does over the top -- Doc Holiday
and he's not quite as creepy as Walken.

Well, Gilliam just worked with Matt Damon......

And if we got Uma involved....

Sounding like the POTA2001 cast eh?

Screw the cast - the POTA2001 cast was AWESOME - we need a story; we
need a REAL director. Right Jeff?

Michael

>
> ----------
> From: sparkytb2005[SMTP:SPARKYTB@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 11:38:33 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Digest Number 1321
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 1/3/05 7:04:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> Mithril1960@a... writes:
>
>
> > I'd cast Christopher Walken as Taylor.
> >
>
> Too old now! Somebody like Matthew Modine would be better.
>
> -- Rory


Rory --

Modine's a wimp -- and he looks like a teenager in the way DiCaprio
always will -- regardless of talent.

This concept requires maturity. Try looking across the pond to
actors like Colin Farrell or Clive Owen.

More interesting and mature, IMHO.

Mark.





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--

Got it ..Thanks! i will try and do this over the next
week or so.....so busy with work....!

Tim

--- Neil <nfoster@...> wrote:

>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\""
> <apefan23@y...>
> wrote:
> > Where's the layout for the comics page
> again....i'll give it a go
> when I get some time...
>
> -- Tim I have uploaded it to the files section
> (Comic sample
> page.doc)
>
>

(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Comic%20sample%

> 20page.doc)
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>

__________________________________

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:

> I hope the result is somewhat different than that of the

series "Escape

> From Tomorrow" piloted!
>
> Michael
>
>
>

+++Erm, yes. It is. Very.

MT-B.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:

> Neil looks after all that buddy!
>
> Neil?
>
> Michael
>
> >
> > ----------
> > From: sparkytb2005[SMTP:SPARKYTB@H...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 10:56:38 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: MTB resurfaces + fanzine query
> > Auto forwarded by a Rule
> >
>
>
> +++ Thanks to all of you luvly people at the DG for the warm

welcome

> back. I really appreciate it.
>
> Neil, the only reason I slaved over that fab pic of Brent's ship

was

> to try and get Whitty to use it on the home page -- if only for a
> few days....!
>
> Whitty?
>
> MT-B.

+++ Neil..?

Anon.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:

> Well, Gilliam just worked with Matt Damon......
>
> And if we got Uma involved....
>
> Sounding like the POTA2001 cast eh?
>
> Screw the cast - the POTA2001 cast was AWESOME - we need a story;

we

> need a REAL director. Right Jeff?
>
> Michael
>

+++ Fincher.

MT-B.

.html.html In a message dated 1/4/2005 6:35:50 AM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

I realise that's Dan's drawing style and that's great - I just like to see
the apes look real. 

I agree with Whitty on this one... Those apes in that strip looked too muchlike "South Park"...

<.html <.html

Hi Helen and all,

I just joined yesterday (on Rory's recommendation through another group) and
the first thing I did was check out the Polls and the Files!! I have voted
on all the Polls.

I actually find it quite surprising how many people don't do Polls or don't
realise that they are there! As I own a lot of groups myself and make Polls
for my Members.

Anyway, a bit about me. I live in Plymouth, England and got interested in
POTA in the late 70's when the original TV series was re-run. I have seen the
whole series and all the original films, plus the re-make, of which I thought
was ok, but it seemed to lack the charm of the original films and TV series.

I just love the concept of Earth being run by Apes rather than humans, this
was a very imaginative concept I thought.

Anyway, I look forward to getting to know you all.

Yours Truly 2005,

Kuiama.

ELO - Time Prologue -

Just On The Border Of Your Waking Mind,
There Lies Another Time
Where Darkness And Light Are One,
And As You Tread The Halls Of Sanity
You Feel So Glad To Be Unable To Go Beyond.

I Have A Message From Another Time.

Copyright Jeff Lynne 1981.

From: "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@...>

There are some active polls in the polls section of the site:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/polls . I notice one
poll has 22 responses! Maybe YOU have an opinion?

If you are visiting the DG directly from the board, rather than
receiving emails or daily digests, you always have access to the
homepage image, the message archive, the files, the photos, the
links, the database, and the polls by clicking on the section you'd
like to visit. There is even a chat feature. (Has anyone ever used
this?)

If you visit via the internet through the homepage
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG you will have easy
access to the group's other collections. There is a link to Beware
the Beast, Within the Planet of the Apes, and Going Home (all
original fan created pota comics)! You will also find links to our
fan fiction group, our photo gallery, and our archives.

So, head on over to the POTADG homepage
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG , record your opinions
in a poll, create a poll yourself if there is something you'd like
to know from other members, and check out all the stuff. There is a
lot here to amuse and amaze you.

--Helen

Hi Elaine,

I totally agree with you. It seems that Directors today seem to think that
all the audience wants out of a film is loads of special effects, but I don't
agree, I like a film with minimal special effects and a very strong storyline.

The 2001 version of POTA was weak in comparison to the originals and I
thought that too much was put into the effects, I even said this to my partner at
the time, when we sat and watched it for the first time.

Yours Truly 2005,

Kuiama.

ELO - Time Prologue -

Just On The Border Of Your Waking Mind,
There Lies Another Time
Where Darkness And Light Are One,
And As You Tread The Halls Of Sanity
You Feel So Glad To Be Unable To Go Beyond.

I Have A Message From Another Time.

Copyright Jeff Lynne 1981.


From: taebokitti@...

Good post ,Jeff. I agree with you on these points. One of things I would
change with Pota 2001 is the lack of character development. The Ari/Leo
relationship is never really fully developed in any direction. As many have
stated
before this is a common problem with movies lately, too much special effects
and
not enough good story and character development. Elaine

.html

In a message dated 1/4/2005 3:28:30 A.M. Central Standard Time, sparkytb@... writes:

+++ Yeah, I kind of figured that.  But they LOOK interesting. 
Different and original stuff is what I spend all of my time looking
for.  Like you, it seems.

I'm anxiously awaiting the release of the Primer DVD.

In March hopefully.  It has still has me thinking about

it three months later.  Check out the trailers.

 

 

P R I M E R M O V I E

 

<.html

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In a message dated 1/4/2005 3:32:01 A.M. Central Standard Time, sparkytb@... writes:

I think the last movie
> I rented was Bubba Ho-Tep.


+++ Ah -- that's another one.  Thanks for reminding me

 

Yeah, Elvis mummy fighting in a rest home.

It doesn't get much more "different" than that.

 

<.html

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In a message dated 1/4/2005 6:38:01 A.M. Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

Does he even HAVE an accent any more?

Does Gibson?

It seems to be a conglomeration that shifts back and forth.

Thanks to Air Travel and Television in the future everyone

will have . . . That Same Accent.        Believe it or not!

 

 

<.html

Welcome, Kuiama. Glad you've been making yourself at home. There
is a lot to see, so feel free to look around.

(For those that don't enter through the homepage:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG it's good to check it
out once in a while. Aside from access to the comics, you also get
to see Neil's latest imagining on the homepage pic.)

--Helen

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, kuiama1973@a... wrote:
>
> Hi Helen and all,
>
> I just joined yesterday (on Rory's recommendation through another
group) and
> the first thing I did was check out the Polls and the Files!! I
have voted
> on all the Polls.
>
> I actually find it quite surprising how many people don't do
Polls or don't
> realise that they are there! As I own a lot of groups myself and
make Polls
> for my Members.
>
> Anyway, a bit about me. I live in Plymouth, England and got
interested in
> POTA in the late 70's when the original TV series was re-run. I
have seen the
> whole series and all the original films, plus the re-make, of
which I thought
> was ok, but it seemed to lack the charm of the original films and
TV series.
>
> I just love the concept of Earth being run by Apes rather than
humans, this
> was a very imaginative concept I thought.
>
> Anyway, I look forward to getting to know you all.
>
> Yours Truly 2005,
>
> Kuiama.
>
> ELO - Time Prologue -
>
> Just On The Border Of Your Waking Mind,
> There Lies Another Time
> Where Darkness And Light Are One,
> And As You Tread The Halls Of Sanity
> You Feel So Glad To Be Unable To Go Beyond.
>
> I Have A Message From Another Time.
>
> Copyright Jeff Lynne 1981.
>
> From: "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
>
> There are some active polls in the polls section of the site:
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/polls . I notice
one
> poll has 22 responses! Maybe YOU have an opinion?
>
> If you are visiting the DG directly from the board, rather than
> receiving emails or daily digests, you always have access to the
> homepage image, the message archive, the files, the photos, the
> links, the database, and the polls by clicking on the section
you'd
> like to visit. There is even a chat feature. (Has anyone ever
used
> this?)
>
> If you visit via the internet through the homepage
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG you will have easy
> access to the group's other collections. There is a link to
Beware
> the Beast, Within the Planet of the Apes, and Going Home (all
> original fan created pota comics)! You will also find links to
our
> fan fiction group, our photo gallery, and our archives.
>
> So, head on over to the POTADG homepage
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG , record your opinions
> in a poll, create a poll yourself if there is something you'd
like
> to know from other members, and check out all the stuff. There
is a
> lot here to amuse and amaze you.
>
> --Helen

Hi. Would someone please post a link to Elaine's newest fanfic? I
can't locate it in the files or at the POTADG Fanfic site:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDiscussionGroupfanfiction/

Thanks.

--Helen

.html

In a message dated 1/4/2005 6:53:19 A.M. Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

And if we got Uma involved....

I don't want her involved.

I think she's over rated.

I'd rather have Helena back.

 

"My names Helen.  It's awful isn't it?

Sounds like someone who's been to

hell and back. Still at least my sir

name isn't Back. That'd be awful

wouldn't it?  Helen Back. 

My sir name is Mucus."

 

~~~Jennifer Saunders as Helen

The Completely Mad Murderess on

The Young Ones~~~~

 

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   The Adventure comics started out well (the best selling black and white comics ever, or something like that) but lost popularity early because of poor stories. So whether POTA2001 or Adventure's POTAClassic, POTA has a poor comic's history of late. But let's face it, a non-superhero comic book has a tough hill to climb anyway. Except for juggernauts like "Star Wars" or "Alien vs. Predator" I can't think of any long running comics based on movies recently. They usually have a shelf life of the movie's release. That Adventure did pretty good with a movie series that was about 25 years old ain't bad. - - - Jeff

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Whitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 2:48 PM

Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Licensing

Dark Horse are DEFINITELY out - they have very firmly said "NO!". 
They lost a fortune on the POTA2001 comics and the poor fools don't
see the difference between CLASSIC apes and POTA2001.

Mike, do you have some artwork you could share with us?

And while I would like to see the comics by the fans, for the fans
too I think I'm coming to my limit of what money I burn in the name
of POTA!

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <doctahoot@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...>
wrote:
> > It depends what you want.
> >
> > I have offered to do it on a "I pay the costs/do the work/give
Fox a percentage" basis.
> >
> > I hope I don't have to go into any more debt for POTA though!
> >
> > Michael
>
> Dark Horse comics would probably be a good contender.  Either in
it's
> own issue or as a serial in Dark Horse presents- many of the DHP
> stories are black and white as well. 
>
> But if you end up self-publishing, I hope it works out smoothly.
It'd
> be nice idea to have a complete printed Apes comics made entirely
by
> fans for the fans, ala fanzine style. And I'd love to donate pin-up
> art or a cover sometime.
>
> Mike

<.html

Hi Helen,

Thanks for the welcome. I have looked round a bit, but been too busy to
check everything out, but I will do as soon as I have some free time. This site
is very impressive, one of the best i've seen.

Yours Truly 2005,

Kuiama.

ELO - Time Prologue -

Just On The Border Of Your Waking Mind,
There Lies Another Time
Where Darkness And Light Are One,
And As You Tread The Halls Of Sanity
You Feel So Glad To Be Unable To Go Beyond.

I Have A Message From Another Time.

Copyright Jeff Lynne 1981.

From: "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@...>

Welcome, Kuiama. Glad you've been making yourself at home. There
is a lot to see, so feel free to look around.

(For those that don't enter through the homepage:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG it's good to check it
out once in a while. Aside from access to the comics, you also get
to see Neil's latest imagining on the homepage pic.)

--Helen

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:

> Neil looks after all that buddy!
> Neil?

-- We still have a folder in the photos section where anyone can
upload a picture to be used on the home page (called 'Home Page
Pics' strangely enough)

The thing is though, as I am nowhere near being a computer whiz by a
long stretch of anyone's imagination, by trial and error I have got
the Home Page set up so that it will only look okay with certain
sized pictures. Otherwise the text and links get screwed up and
pushed all over the place, so to keep things simple and quick (at
least until I have the time to really get all this stuff worked out)
pictures have to be limited to 240(W) x 355(H) pixels or be able to
be re-sized or fitted to those measurements.

So if anyone has pictures they want to have used just upload them to
the folder and if you need help re-sizing them I can help with all
that stuff.

Neil

Welcome Kuiama!

Tim



__________________________________

I'm impressed with the job you're doing, Neil. Looks to me like you
know what you're doing! Thank you for all your efforts!

--Helen

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...>
wrote:
> > Neil looks after all that buddy!
> > Neil?
>
> -- We still have a folder in the photos section where anyone can
> upload a picture to be used on the home page (called 'Home Page
> Pics' strangely enough)
>
> The thing is though, as I am nowhere near being a computer whiz by
a
> long stretch of anyone's imagination, by trial and error I have
got
> the Home Page set up so that it will only look okay with certain
> sized pictures. Otherwise the text and links get screwed up and
> pushed all over the place, so to keep things simple and quick (at
> least until I have the time to really get all this stuff worked
out)
> pictures have to be limited to 240(W) x 355(H) pixels or be able
to
> be re-sized or fitted to those measurements.
>
> So if anyone has pictures they want to have used just upload them
to
> the folder and if you need help re-sizing them I can help with all
> that stuff.
>
> Neil

.html I voted to live as a slave for the apes in the hope that I would have  kind owners.  Being underground with the mutants is too weird for me and I would never survive in the jungle. Elaine<.html

.html

I've been making calendaaaars...

One Ranma, one Zira.  While I

was out, getting ink for the printer,

I picked up those videos.  At last

I'll be able to see what all the hubbub

is about.  I'll let you know what I think.

 

 

<.html

.html

-----Original Message-----
From: taebokitti@... [taebokitti@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: The Truth

What I like about "The Truth" is that there is some mystery here that will keep me reading it. But the main thing with comics for me is the artwork and I look at the drawings first, then absorb the story. I think all of the fanfic comics from both groups are drawn well and I enjoy looking at them and reading them. Elaine

<.html

G'day from down under Shaz and welcome.

Just browsed through your Yahoo profile and you actually seem to
like the same music as I do as well!

Welcome and please join in the onslaught of posts.

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, kuiama1973@a... wrote:
>
> Hi Helen and all,
>
> I just joined yesterday (on Rory's recommendation through another
group) and
> the first thing I did was check out the Polls and the Files!! I
have voted
> on all the Polls.
>
> I actually find it quite surprising how many people don't do
Polls or don't
> realise that they are there! As I own a lot of groups myself and
make Polls
> for my Members.
>
> Anyway, a bit about me. I live in Plymouth, England and got
interested in
> POTA in the late 70's when the original TV series was re-run. I
have seen the
> whole series and all the original films, plus the re-make, of
which I thought
> was ok, but it seemed to lack the charm of the original films and
TV series.
>
> I just love the concept of Earth being run by Apes rather than
humans, this
> was a very imaginative concept I thought.
>
> Anyway, I look forward to getting to know you all.
>
> Yours Truly 2005,
>
> Kuiama.
>
> ELO - Time Prologue -
>
> Just On The Border Of Your Waking Mind,
> There Lies Another Time
> Where Darkness And Light Are One,
> And As You Tread The Halls Of Sanity
> You Feel So Glad To Be Unable To Go Beyond.
>
> I Have A Message From Another Time.
>
> Copyright Jeff Lynne 1981.
>
> From: "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
>
> There are some active polls in the polls section of the site:
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/polls . I notice
one
> poll has 22 responses! Maybe YOU have an opinion?
>
> If you are visiting the DG directly from the board, rather than
> receiving emails or daily digests, you always have access to the
> homepage image, the message archive, the files, the photos, the
> links, the database, and the polls by clicking on the section
you'd
> like to visit. There is even a chat feature. (Has anyone ever
used
> this?)
>
> If you visit via the internet through the homepage
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG you will have easy
> access to the group's other collections. There is a link to
Beware
> the Beast, Within the Planet of the Apes, and Going Home (all
> original fan created pota comics)! You will also find links to
our
> fan fiction group, our photo gallery, and our archives.
>
> So, head on over to the POTADG homepage
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG , record your opinions
> in a poll, create a poll yourself if there is something you'd
like
> to know from other members, and check out all the stuff. There
is a
> lot here to amuse and amaze you.
>
> --Helen

You should also check another POTA group:

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/Pota

They do a really good job over there too!

Michael (5 posts disallowed in 5 days - no reason offered).

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, kuiama1973@a... wrote:
>
> Hi Helen,
>
> Thanks for the welcome. I have looked round a bit, but been too
busy to
> check everything out, but I will do as soon as I have some free
time. This site
> is very impressive, one of the best i've seen.
>
> Yours Truly 2005,
>
> Kuiama.
>
> ELO - Time Prologue -
>
> Just On The Border Of Your Waking Mind,
> There Lies Another Time
> Where Darkness And Light Are One,
> And As You Tread The Halls Of Sanity
> You Feel So Glad To Be Unable To Go Beyond.
>
> I Have A Message From Another Time.
>
> Copyright Jeff Lynne 1981.
>
> From: "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
>
> Welcome, Kuiama. Glad you've been making yourself at home.
There
> is a lot to see, so feel free to look around.
>
> (For those that don't enter through the homepage:
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG it's good to check it
> out once in a while. Aside from access to the comics, you also
get
> to see Neil's latest imagining on the homepage pic.)
>
> --Helen

I forgot what I voted for - it was a while back!

Anyone else?

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> I voted to live as a slave for the apes in the hope that I would
have kind
> owners. Being underground with the mutants is too weird for me
and I would
> never survive in the jungle. Elaine

Hi Michael,

Thanks for the welcome, so you've been checking up on me hey??!! Seeing if I
am an Ape disguising myself as a Human to see what you're all talking
about??!! Lol!!!!!!

Glad to hear you like my taste in music!! ;-)

Yours Truly 2005,

Kuiama.

ELO - Time Prologue -

Just On The Border Of Your Waking Mind,
There Lies Another Time
Where Darkness And Light Are One,
And As You Tread The Halls Of Sanity
You Feel So Glad To Be Unable To Go Beyond.

I Have A Message From Another Time.

Copyright Jeff Lynne 1981.



From: "Michael Whitty" <Michael.Whitty@...>


G'day from down under Shaz and welcome.

Just browsed through your Yahoo profile and you actually seem to
like the same music as I do as well!

Welcome and please join in the onslaught of posts.

Michael

*** Hey, Ron. Here's my take on this subject.

Both Nova and the dude Taylor scuffled with did their best to
obliterate Taylor's writing-in-the-sand. Why?

I think it's because they -- these descendants of the humans who've
managed to survive in a brutal world where Apes have oppressed Man to
the point of having driven them to a state of savagery -- they know
that Apes will do horrendous things to ANY human who displays any
form of "higher" communication, such as WRITING or VOCALIZATION.

These mute human savages don't know how to write, of course; but they
know that the mere act of writing will get them killed -- so, when
they see Taylor doing just that, they try to help him, to save him
from the mistreatment they know he'll receive if the Apes see his
scribbles in the sand. It is AFTER Taylor's mostly-obliterated
message is seen by Zaius that Zaius begins to set in motion the plan
to have Taylor gelded. Seeing "Bright Eyes" in Cornelius' office --
with that paper airplane present -- only accelerates the plan. The
next thing we know, Zaius sends two gorillas to the lab where
Taylor's caged -- with Zira not present -- to order Julius to have
him prepped for the emasculating surgery.

Nova DID have the capacity for speech -- it wasn't a flaw in the
anatomy of their speech organs that kept the humans mute, as Zira
insists -- it was a 'flaw' in the human BRAIN. These humans CHOOSE
not to make any vocal sounds -- they've been bred to survive by being
absolutely silent. Even when being gunned down in the cornfield, they
make absolutely no sound vocally. No screams, no groans. No panting
or whimpering, any of that -- unlike any animal hunted by Man which
has vocalizing abilities.

They've been 'conditioned' to be absolutely silent: what the Humans
once did to Apes in APE MANAGEMENT to instill obedience to the "No!"
command is analogous to what the Apes eventually did to Humans to
instill obedience to the rule that Man -- a beast who "has no
understanding" -- cannot then exemplify an ability which
evinces 'understanding'. The ability to use vocal speech negates the
Ape dogmas about "the beast Man". Any human who once negated that
dogma was put to death -- probably, in part, as a warning to any
other humans around, so that if they wanted to survive in this brutal
world, they'd better keep their yaps shut.

Zira tries to get indigenous humans to "Speak!", offering up tidbits
of sugar. But even though they CAN speak (or, they have the
physiological ability to make vocalizations), they don't DARE do so.
Not even Zira's friendly attempts to encourage them to speak can
overcome the dreaded conditioning that instilled their deeply-seated
fear.

Only when keeping silent meant that her mate would die at the mind-
controlling hands of the Mutants, does Nova finally overcome that
fear (and it helps that there were no apes around), and rasp out the
only word she would ever speak: "Taylor!"

If Hasslein knew even HALF of what the Apes had done to Man, he'd
have killed the Ape-onauts earlier when he had a chance. He wouldn't
give a flying **** about being judged by posterity for having done
the "historically unpopular" thing: it would've saved his own species
from a fate almost as bad as death. Worse than death, for some.
Better to die a free man than to live the life of an abject slave.

Or of a degraded beast.

Patrick

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, ron kenner <brindlepit2002@y...> wrote:
> forgive me if this has already been discussed... but why did nova
scratch out what taylor wrote in the sand? how could she tell the
difference from words and scribbles? and i never understood the mute
thing... if she had capacity to speak, why wasnt she at least making
sounds (grunting, growling)
> rob/ron
>
> mlccougar@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 1/2/2005 1:51:48 PM Central Standard Time,
sand_hill_school@y... writes:
>
> Forgive my ignorance. Wasn't that a special thing because Taylor
> was "special/different"?
>
> Well, yes, she saw him as a "superior" human, so she wanted to get
that bloodline going... She placed a "superior" female in with him
too... She wanted to breed "intelligent" humans, not the run of the
mill savages she normally experiments with...
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , LordTZer0@A... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 1/2/2005 2:18:52 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> sand_hill_school@y... writes:
>
>
> The 10-year-old comment was about MY thought that that scene in

the movie wasn't that important.

>
>
>
> Okay, but it sounds like a cop out to me.
> But the scene isn't there for any purulent
> reason. I suppose that the skinny dipping
> scene could have been shot with their
> underwear on, but that's not going to
> play naturally on screen. The scene
> is there to dehumanize Taylor. If you'll
> remember, in the book, Ulysses refused
> to participate in the mating dance, and
> Nova was thrown to the cavemen, until
> he agreed to mate. I agree that reality
> isn't always pretty or pleasant to watch.
> But it is real.

*** If we're talking about a faithful-to-Boulle version of POTA, then
what about the scene where Ulysse, Levain, and Antelle first actually
SEE Nova? She's described as being

"... a woman--a young girl, rather, unless it was a goddess. She
boldly asserted her femininity in the light of this monstrous sun,
completely naked and without any ornament other than her hair, which
hung down to her shoulders. True, we had been deprived of any point
of comparison for over two years, but none of us was inclined to fall
a victim to mirages. It was plain to see that the woman, who stood
motionless on the ledge like a statue on a pedestal, possessed the
most perfect body that could be conceived on Earth. Levain and I were
breathless, lost in admiration, and I think even Professor Antelle
was moved.
Standing upright, leaning forward, her breasts thrust out toward us,
her arms raised slightly backward in the attitude of a diver taking
off..." etc. [LA PLANETE DES SINGES, chapter 5]

The 1968 film's portrayal is quite different. Nova there is pretty,
yes, but her rag-clothing makes her look rather wretched -- and she
doesn't have any overtly sexual animalistic effects on Taylor, Landon
& Dodge. Taylor probably likes what he sees when he looks at her, but
HIS mind is more on the implications of their culture level: "If this
is the best they've got around here, in six months we'll be running
this planet."

Not "Hmmm... I wouldn't mind romping with that girl -- I bet she'd
clean up nicely..."!

A faithful-to-Boulle film version would have to show Nova in all her
naked splendor, with the obviously aroused onlooking by the space
travellers who see her statuesque pose.

What rating d'ya suppose THAT scene would get, if done faithfully? PG-
13, easily!

And I wouldn't have it any other way.

Patrick

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In a message dated 1/5/2005 12:28:29 P.M. Central Standard Time, patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:

Only when keeping silent meant that her mate would die at the mind-
controlling hands of the Mutants, does Nova finally overcome that
fear (and it helps that there were no apes around), and rasp out the
only word she would ever speak: "Taylor!"

 

Well obviously there was at least one ape around.

The one that shot her.

 

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "sparkytb2005" <sparkytb@h...> wrote:

>
> Hi Guys!!!
>
> After the screaming nightmare of constant work for the last few
> months and the even more painful ordeal of Christmas, I've
> resurfaced and had some fun opening up my first EBay account.
>
> Guess what I searched for first of all?
>
> Wow! There are some interesting (and CHEAP) POTA goodies over
> there. I've been bidding for some lovely stuff (yes Cougar, that

is

> me asking for your ESCAPE soundtrack CD, and no Michael, I will
> NEVER buy any dolls).
>
> Anyway, this has encouraged me to attempt to co-ordinate my POTA
> memorabilia collection -- which is considerable as I sit back and
> look at it.
>
> I did find one thing I wanted to throw out there to you all to see
> if anyone had any more info on the subject.
>
> It's a fanzine called "APESFAN".
>
> I have a copy of a $7 "Special Edition" that's mainly a tribute to
> Roddy at the time of his death. It's published by a guy called
> George R. Reis in NY state and I wondered if anyone knew anything

of it?

>
> It's beautifully researched and presented, jam-packed with info,

and when I purchased the single copy over here the dealer had no idea
of its origin either.

>
> Anyone know?
>
> All the Best from London,
>
> Mark T-B.

*** I contributed that article entitled "A CHRONOLOGY OF THE PLANET
OF THE APES" on pages 52-55. Since then, I've discovered Yahoo
Groups, the original Yahoo POTA group, and its various offshoots --
including the unmoderated one I own ["POTA Phenomenon"]... and now
you can get so much POTA stuff online that fanzines seem rather old-
fashioned. I was happy to be a part of that one, though. They did a
good job, Mr. Reis & Mr. Lozowski, et al. Jeff "Veetus" Krueger also
contributed to it, a couple articles in fact.

The green-tint used on the outer cover sorta exemplifies the fact
that "APESFAN" (issue number 2, anyway) was like that little green
plant that Dodge found in the Forbidden Zone. One lonely little bit
of life in POTA-ville amidst a veritable desert of nothingness.

It's a lot greener now.

Patrick

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In a message dated 1/5/2005 12:38:14 P.M. Central Standard Time, patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:

What rating d'ya suppose THAT scene would get, if done faithfully? PG-
13, easily!

And I wouldn't have it any other way.

Patrick

 

I would!  I'd have it R -- and not the sort of R rated stuff you

get on Skinamax.  But the good solid R you get from a major

motion picture, like Blade Runner or The Godfather.  Is that so

much to ask?  Planet of the Apes was a major motion picture,

at least the first one was, when it was release.  That's what I want.

 

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:

> I'm impressed with the job you're doing, Neil. Looks to me like

you know what you're doing! Thank you for all your efforts!

--Thanks for that Helen but honestly I really have been 'learning on
the job' and I seem to have got away with it so far (fingers
crossed!) ;-)

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , LordTZer0@A... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 1/5/2005 12:28:29 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> patrickmichaeltilton@y... writes:
>
> Only when keeping silent meant that her mate would die at the

mind-

> controlling hands of the Mutants, does Nova finally overcome that
> fear (and it helps that there were no apes around), and rasp out

the

> only word she would ever speak: "Taylor!"
>
>
>
> Well obviously there was at least one ape around.
> The one that shot her.

+++ Yeah, accompanied by beautiful 20th Century Fox sound department
machine gun FX.

Art.

Mark.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "patrickmichaeltilton"
<patrickmichaeltilton@y...> wrote:

>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "sparkytb2005" <sparkytb@h...>

wrote:

> >
> > Hi Guys!!!
> >
> > After the screaming nightmare of constant work for the last few
> > months and the even more painful ordeal of Christmas, I've
> > resurfaced and had some fun opening up my first EBay account.
> >
> > Guess what I searched for first of all?
> >
> > Wow! There are some interesting (and CHEAP) POTA goodies over
> > there. I've been bidding for some lovely stuff (yes Cougar,

that

> is
> > me asking for your ESCAPE soundtrack CD, and no Michael, I will
> > NEVER buy any dolls).
> >
> > Anyway, this has encouraged me to attempt to co-ordinate my POTA
> > memorabilia collection -- which is considerable as I sit back

and

> > look at it.
> >
> > I did find one thing I wanted to throw out there to you all to

see

> > if anyone had any more info on the subject.
> >
> > It's a fanzine called "APESFAN".
> >
> > I have a copy of a $7 "Special Edition" that's mainly a tribute

to

> > Roddy at the time of his death. It's published by a guy called
> > George R. Reis in NY state and I wondered if anyone knew

anything

> of it?
> >
> > It's beautifully researched and presented, jam-packed with info,
> and when I purchased the single copy over here the dealer had no

idea

> of its origin either.
> >
> > Anyone know?
> >
> > All the Best from London,
> >
> > Mark T-B.
>
> *** I contributed that article entitled "A CHRONOLOGY OF THE

PLANET

> OF THE APES" on pages 52-55. Since then, I've discovered Yahoo
> Groups, the original Yahoo POTA group, and its various offshoots --

> including the unmoderated one I own ["POTA Phenomenon"]... and now
> you can get so much POTA stuff online that fanzines seem rather

old-

> fashioned. I was happy to be a part of that one, though. They did

a

> good job, Mr. Reis & Mr. Lozowski, et al. Jeff "Veetus" Krueger

also

> contributed to it, a couple articles in fact.
>
> The green-tint used on the outer cover sorta exemplifies the fact
> that "APESFAN" (issue number 2, anyway) was like that little green
> plant that Dodge found in the Forbidden Zone. One lonely little

bit

> of life in POTA-ville amidst a veritable desert of nothingness.
>
> It's a lot greener now.
>
> Patrick

++++ Patrick,

I looked over the issue after I posted the above and saw your name.
I was about to post in order to mention this and to ask you about
your contribution but you beat me to it.

Congrats to you for a) flying the flag when all around was a desert
and b) being involved in an intelligent fanzine.

I was involved in fanzine writing/publication in the late 70s and I
know how difficult it can be. Dedication, hard work and dipping
into your own pocket is only the beginning and I think work like
that is to be applauded (and yes, John Roche and Terry Hoknes, I'm
talking about you guys).

The "veritable desert of nothingness" was something I also had to
endure throughout the 80s and 90s, but isn't it wonderful to have
come through and be where we are now?

Just ruminating...

Mark T-B.

To more clever fans out there than me:

I just managed to buy a set of the "basic Planet of the Apes Inkwork
Card Set -- 90 cards" for an INCREDIBLY cheap price.

Can anyone explain why this is called the "basic" set and how many
more additional cards are then on top?

Cheers,

MT-B.

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-----Original Message-----
From: sparkytb2005 [sparkytb@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 10:52 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Inkworks trading cards question

To more clever fans out there than me:

I just managed to buy a set of the "basic Planet of the Apes Inkwork
Card Set -- 90 cards" for an INCREDIBLY cheap price.

Can anyone explain why this is called the "basic" set and how many
more additional cards are then on top?

Cheers,

MT-B.

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "patrickmichaeltilton"
<patrickmichaeltilton@y...> wrote:

> *** If we're talking about a faithful-to-Boulle version of POTA,

then what about the scene where Ulysse, Levain, and Antelle first
actually SEE Nova? She's described as being
"... a woman--a young girl, rather, unless it was a goddess...

-- Hmmm, if we ever get the next chapter of Monkey Planet up for
discussion maybe I should do an illustration of this scene, (or
maybe I already have?) ;-)

The nudity etc. discussion so far has been about the movies but I
was wondering, if it came to an illustrated version of Boulle's book
or even a comic adaption of it, would it be okay to go with the
nudity and stuff in these different mediums?

Neil

Hello,

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Hey everyone, how is it going? I see a lot of creativity on dg, not
mention a great deal of growth. Great job Jame! Just want you to know
that I'm still breathing, living in Los Alamos. I've been extremely
busy -- working with disabled children and acting a play here in our
small but scientific community. Nevertheless, I miss you all and try
to visit once in a while. Nothing can stop me from being a ape fan.
Hope you all have had a great start to your new year.
The grammar deaf mutant, Wendy

+++ Not yet buddy. I'm still waiting for them through the post!

I also bought a gorgeous 35mm film print of the original POTA
trailer. Y'know -- my kind of collectibles...! ;)

MT-B.


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> Sparky - do you have them in front of you becaue that should all

be on the

> checklist!
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sparkytb2005 [sparkytb@h...]
> Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 10:52 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Inkworks trading cards question
>
>
>
> To more clever fans out there than me:
>
> I just managed to buy a set of the "basic Planet of the Apes

Inkwork

> Card Set -- 90 cards" for an INCREDIBLY cheap price.
>
> Can anyone explain why this is called the "basic" set and how many
> more additional cards are then on top?
>
> Cheers,
>
> MT-B.
>
>

Guys,

Sincre thanks for your sterling work scanning and presenting these
mags.

I wait with bated breath for Issue 12 as that is the beginning of
Alfredo Alcala's BENEATH. IMHO some of the most beautiful comic
book art I've ever seen.

Again, thanks.

Mark T-B.

One more thing. Last summer I found that Alan Cozad address was no
longer valid. The last time I spoke with him, which was in March
2004, he was having health problems. Visiting Linda's web site I
noticed his last entery was in March of 2004. I fear that maybe
something awful has happened to him, that he has passed on.
Do any of you know him? He wrote Nova's Story for Mike's website. If
you do, have you heard from him? I am really concerned and could use
some closure as to what his fate was. H was close and dear friend.
Please e-mail me at willowape@... . Thanks Wendy

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-----Original Message-----
From: sparkytb2005 [sparkytb@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 12:27 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Inkworks trading cards question

+++ Not yet buddy.  I'm still waiting for them through the post!

I also bought a gorgeous 35mm film print of the original POTA
trailer.  Y'know -- my kind of collectibles...!   ;)

MT-B.

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Wendy!

It is wonderful to hear from you. Lots has been going on here! You
have to go to the homepage and check out the comics!!!
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG Check out all the
files, photos, etc. Also, check out the polls. I know you only
stop in periodically, but I hope you check in again soon.

We really, really miss you!!

--Helen

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "libraryape" <Willowape@h...> wrote:
>
> Hey everyone, how is it going? I see a lot of creativity on dg,
not
> mention a great deal of growth. Great job Jame! Just want you to
know
> that I'm still breathing, living in Los Alamos. I've been
extremely
> busy -- working with disabled children and acting a play here in
our
> small but scientific community. Nevertheless, I miss you all and
try
> to visit once in a while. Nothing can stop me from being a ape
fan.
> Hope you all have had a great start to your new year.
> The grammar deaf mutant, Wendy