.html.html In a message dated 1/8/05 5:47:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, snickertown@... writes:

These figures need help. My Cornelius is being ripped up and  fixed, but some things can't  be  fixed  like the color. What's  with the eyes looking up and  to the right? For the  price I expect more, luckily  I have homemade chimp suits and glyphs that are accurate, but I  feel for you guys.

Zira is a mess.

Best of Luck.


Chris Hight

Hey!  Want to sell some of those glyphs?  I'll need three for Cornelius and one for Zira.

Would you know what kind of paint to use on Zira's shoes to get them the right color?

-- Rory<.html <.html

I know I've asked this before, but does anyone have a recent address for
Alex Ruiz from Florida? I know at one point, he had changed his POTA
collective site to a Lord of the Rings site, but POTA Collective was
still in the address. Should anyone know the url for the site, that'd
help as well.

Contact me directly if you can help out. Thanks!!

Chris

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@a... wrote:

> Who else here has got their Sideshow Zira and Cornelius? I've

opened mine. I have to say that I continue to be disappointed with
the clothes. I don't understand why they're not more accurate.

--There seems to have been a fair bit of disappointment voiced over
theses figures so far, so I was just wondering, with having spent so
much money on the things are any of you going to send them back and
ask for your money back? Or are you just going to accept them as
they are and/or try to fix them up like Rory says he is going to?

I haven't had the chance to see any close up 'in the flesh' to know
if they really are as bad as some have said or is there just a
general air of disappointment because they are not perfectly
accurate? (which of course they should be for the price!)

Neil

I seem to be the only one that likes these. Sure, they
are not 100% exactly identical to the movie but are
any toys? I enjoy the fact that they (Sideshow) even
bothered to make new Apes stuff so soon after the
Hasbro line ....and you have to admit , the Sideshows
are a whole lot better than the Hasbros. I am getting
every one of these new guys and can't wait for the
Lawgiver statue.....If WE don't appreciate these , who
will? Is there any one else out there that like their
new Apes????

Tim


--- Neil <nfoster@...> wrote:

>
> --There seems to have been a fair bit of
> disappointment voiced over
> theses figures so far, so I was just wondering, with
> having spent so
> much money on the things are any of you going to
> send them back and
> ask for your money back? Or are you just going to
> accept them as
> they are and/or try to fix them up like Rory says he
> is going to?
>
> I haven't had the chance to see any close up 'in the
> flesh' to know
> if they really are as bad as some have said or is
> there just a
> general air of disappointment because they are not
> perfectly
> accurate? (which of course they should be for the
> price!)
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
>
>

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In a message dated 1/8/2005 3:36:44 P.M. Central Standard Time, ursus3978@... writes:

So far I've gotten Zaius and Zira. Both of their costumes seem a tiny
bit too big.

But her jacket sleeves are too short,

which make the skirt sleeve seem too long.

 

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In a message dated 1/8/2005 4:52:48 P.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

Would you know what kind of paint to use on Zira's shoes to get them the right color?

 

I'm thinking of painting the shoes and dying the skirt.

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In a message dated 1/8/2005 8:01:13 P.M. Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

I haven't had the chance to see any close up 'in the flesh'  to know
if they really are as bad as some have said or is there just a
general air of disappointment because they are not perfectly
accurate?

 

Well, I'll say this, as accurate as the Medicom is,

even though her skirt is brown all the way to down

to the ground, she's still wearing green boots!  So

as accurate they aren't perfect either.  And for all the

Sideshow inaccuracies, they're still ten times better

than Mego's and Hasburo's!  I'm happy they have it

as close as it is.  Still the feet turn backwards, a lot.

 

 

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In a message dated 1/8/2005 8:49:25 P.M. Central Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:

I enjoy the fact that they (Sideshow) even
bothered to make new Apes stuff so soon after the
Hasbro line ....and you have to admit , the Sideshows
are a whole lot better than the Hasbros.

I see you beat me to it.

Yeah, I won't even buy

Hasbros.  Not worth it.

 

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.html.html In a message dated 1/8/05 9:01:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

I haven't had the chance to see any close up 'in the flesh'  to know
if they really are as bad as some have said or is there just a
general air of disappointment because they are not perfectly
accurate? (which of course they should be for the price!)

Neil

They're not that bad and compared to the Hasbros they're great, but I'm really picky and for the amount charged I'd have appreciated greater accuracy with the minor clothing details.  Sideshow also does a lot of historic military figures and I'll bet the attention to detail is much greater there.

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.html.html In a message dated 1/8/05 9:49:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:

I seem to be the only one that likes these. Sure, they
are not 100% exactly identical to the movie but are
any toys? I enjoy the fact that they (Sideshow) even
bothered to make new Apes stuff so soon after the
Hasbro line ....and you have to admit , the Sideshows
are a whole lot better than the Hasbros. I am getting
every one of these new guys and can't wait for the
Lawgiver statue.....If WE don't appreciate these , who
will? Is there any one else out there that like their
new Apes????

Tim

I agree with you 100%, but I just can't help being picky about APES.

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@a... wrote:

> They're not that bad and compared to the Hasbros they're great, but

I'm

> really picky and for the amount charged I'd have appreciated

greater accuracy with

> the minor clothing details. Sideshow also does a lot of historic

military

> figures and I'll bet the attention to detail is much greater there.
>
> -- Rory

Sideshow has had some accuracy problems in their military lines as
well. There were some minor problems with some of their WWI soldiers,
such as innaccurate colored "puttees" on their US Army Doughboy.
All of the major 1/6 scale makers have had mistakes in some of their
figures; Dragon, Blue Box Toys, Hasbro, etc.

I understand that for the prices that are being charged for some
figures, the customer should expect things to be perfect. That's
what's so good about many internet sites that post toy reviews. We
have the option to see what we're getting ahead of time and to decide
whether we want them or not.
In case anyone isn't aware, this is a very good site with toy reviews:
http://www.mwctoys.com/REVIEW_122904.htm

I would say that I like the Sideshow figures. I can accept them -as
is. Maybe I ended up paying a little less for them because I have a
local comic book shop that is carrying them so I didn't have to pay
for shipping, or pay the higher price of ordering them from Sideshow
directly. With tax I ended up paying about $38 each for Zaius and
Zira.

If I do decide to modify them, I would dye Zira's skirt/shirt(they
are connected) a darker brown. Dyeing is pretty easy. Sometimes the
hot water from the dye will shrink the clothe a little, which would
be fine since I think her skirt is a little too long anyway.
I would paint her boots with brown acrylic paint. Wash the plastic
first with hot soapy water and let it dry. After you paint it, spray
it with some Testors Dull Cote. That will protect the paint from
coming off and cut down on any shine. It also helps make the paint
less tacky (which can happen sometimes).
I also noticed that her sleeves hang too much. It seems like in the
movie, her sleeves were tighter around her arm. This can be fixed by
turning the sleeves inside out and sewing a new seem down the arm to
the wrist, that is narrower. The extra fabric can then be cut off.

For Zaius, I would shorten his coat. Fold up the bottom about a 1/2
inch and sew around. I would also add a little "stuffing" under his
brown tunic to give him a little more of a pot belly. You can use
anything - tissue, foam,etc. I think I would also add some paint
details to his face. Put a watered down, brown acrylic paint wash
over his face and then wipe it off before it drys. This allows the
paint to fall into any sculpted "cracks" on the face and it brings
out more detail. I would thenk repaint his eybrows with yellow ochre
paint using a fine brush. Maybe he could also use some more yellowish
drybrush highlights on his hair.

I thought the paper plane that came with Zira was lame, and why
should she have the plane? I made my own small paper plane and gave
it to my Zaius to hold (and eventually crush).

I've seen Cornelius in the store and he looks pretty good in the box.
I don't forsee many changes for him. I'm anxious to see how the
Gorilla soldier turns out. The bandolier on the prototype (on
Sideshow's website) looks way too light. I hope I don't have to make
my own bandolier.

-Ray

.html.html In a message dated 1/9/05 11:37:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, ursus3978@... writes:

I would say that I like the Sideshow figures. I can accept them -as
is. Maybe I ended up paying a little less for them because I have a
local comic book shop that is carrying them so I didn't have to pay
for shipping, or pay the higher price of ordering them from Sideshow
directly. With tax I ended up paying about $38 each for Zaius and
Zira.

I got both Zira and Cornelius from Amoktime.com.  With postage the total came to $73.98.  The regular Dr. Zaius figure arrived earlier and was with postage $40.99.  The exclusive Zaius I had to get direct from Sideshow and with postage that was a little over $50.

If I do decide to modify them, I would dye Zira's skirt/shirt(they
are connected) a darker brown. Dyeing is pretty easy.

I've done that with the Bela Lugosi Frankenstein figure.  I've collected many of the Universal figure and I prefer the Silver Screen editions, however on their regular Frankenstein Monster editions all the jackets are green.  I dyed a couple black, but the threads wouldn't take the dye so I had to use a black magic marker on the threads.

I also noticed that her sleeves hang too much.

I've already cut a quarter of an inch off the sleeves of both Cornelius and Zira.

For Zaius, I would shorten his coat.

I can pretty much live with him as is.  I've bought both Zaius figures, and yes, I've used tissue paper to give them the Maurice Evans pot belly!  On Zira I also gathered up her skirt in the back and simply used a paper clip to hold it tighter around her legs.  I only look at them from the front.  As for the color of the clothes... dying is a little messing.  Been there don that with the Frankensteins, think I'll skip it for now.

I've seen Cornelius in the store and he looks pretty good in the box.
I don't forsee many changes for him. I'm anxious to see how the
Gorilla soldier turns out. The bandolier on the prototype (on
Sideshow's website) looks way too light. I hope I don't have to make
my own bandolier.

-Ray

My only real problem with both Cornelius and Zira is that the glyphs are too small and on the Zira I got upside down, but there's a guy here that custom makes them so we'll see what happens there.

As for as the gorillas go.  Sideshow says it's shipping them this week.  I expect my biggest problem with them will be that the heads haven't been sculpted with the "fur collar" the gorillas had in the first two films.  What will we do about that?

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Dear all,

I have been checking the Medicom sculpts after all these posts about
the quality of the Sideshow figures(I have just fallen in love with
them I'm afraid.) And as I have a few spares of the Medicoms I
thought I would try something that I have been meaning to do for a
long time. I have swapped an Astro Cornelius head onto a spare Pota 1
Cornelius body. It looks superb by the way. I now have an Escape
Cornelius in classic costume. But..... I have now realised there are
three Medicom Cornelius's! The original green (same as Zira), a
darker green more detailed glyph Cornelius and the rare Very
dark,lite faced Cornelius? (And now,another I have just put
together...and the Astro Cornelius)Did Medicom do this to any of the
other Characters?

P.s. Still need Ceasers lands ape (chimp) as The e-bay member I
bought it off has disapeared from the site after taking my money!!

Keep the Ape faith.

John (UK)

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Terry,
Were you able to send the DVDs out on Dec 24th as previously
mentioned?
My payment was made on Dec 4 so I hope I was one of the 25 orders you
were filling.

Really looking forward to seeing these episodes!

they got mailed a bit late but i would hope you get them any day now

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In a message dated 1/9/2005 7:28:12 A.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

They're not that bad and compared to the Hasbros they're great, but I'm really picky and for the amount charged

 

I paid 30 buck for my first Medicom.

These are twice as big and way more

flexible.  And if you go through Alter

Ego or Superbox Toys the price is

comparable, $29 - $32. I imagine the

price will drop even further like it did

with Medicoms once the initial sale

begin to fall off.  It's just a matter of

your budget and timing.  How much

you're willing to risk vs missing out.

 

 

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In a message dated 1/9/2005 8:06:11 A.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

Is there any one else out there that like their
new Apes????

 

Yes!  There are just a couple few things I would change.

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 9:50 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Sideshow Zira and Cornelius

In a message dated 1/9/2005 7:28:12 A.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

They're not that bad and compared to the Hasbros they're great, but I'm really picky and for the amount charged

 

I paid 30 buck for my first Medicom.

These are twice as big and way more

flexible.  And if you go through Alter

Ego or Superbox Toys the price is

comparable, $29 - $32. I imagine the

price will drop even further like it did

with Medicoms once the initial sale

begin to fall off.  It's just a matter of

your budget and timing.  How much

you're willing to risk vs missing out.

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-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 9:52 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Sideshow Zira and Cornelius

In a message dated 1/9/2005 8:06:11 A.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

Is there any one else out there that like their
new Apes????

 

Yes!  There are just a couple few things I would change.

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John,

Good call, I had a similar idea for the Cornelius heads after I
finally got a hold of a chimp suit Corny and noticed the facial
differences. The Escape version's much cleaner, but I'm hesitant
about switching since green Cornelius is one of the only Medicom I
keep sealed. (besides Astro-Taylor, but I have an opened extra of him)

I'm confused about the variations though. I thought it was only Green
Cornelius and Dark Brown Cornelius, besides the Ape-o-naut version?
As far as variations of the other characters, I can only think of the
alternate gorilla soldier. He comes with a different gun, and I think
a different head sculpt if I heard right.

There's curently an auction for a Caesar Land's Ape Chimp, along with
a red jumpsuit gorilla and Aldo:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=2622&item=5949017953&rd=1

PS- about the Ebay seller: If you paid with paypal, did you try
getting a refund via them? What's the seller's name and feedback
rating? Maybe we can steer clear of him.

PSS- I'm a bit sheepish to ask this, but if anyone has a loose double
of green Cornelius that they can sell I would appreciate it. Same
goes for Zaius, whom I don't have yet. There's a few others I'm after
but I don't want to overkill with requests here.

Mike

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "grotowski666" <johnbkirtley@h...> wrote:
>
> Dear all,
>
> I have been checking the Medicom sculpts after all these posts about
> the quality of the Sideshow figures(I have just fallen in love with
> them I'm afraid.) And as I have a few spares of the Medicoms I
> thought I would try something that I have been meaning to do for a
> long time. I have swapped an Astro Cornelius head onto a spare Pota 1
> Cornelius body. It looks superb by the way. I now have an Escape
> Cornelius in classic costume. But..... I have now realised there are
> three Medicom Cornelius's! The original green (same as Zira), a
> darker green more detailed glyph Cornelius and the rare Very
> dark,lite faced Cornelius? (And now,another I have just put
> together...and the Astro Cornelius)Did Medicom do this to any of the
> other Characters?
>
> P.s. Still need Ceasers lands ape (chimp) as The e-bay member I
> bought it off has disapeared from the site after taking my money!!
>
> Keep the Ape faith.
>
> John (UK)

I was curious who did tha as well- it's nicely done, whoever did it!
I checked the cover page photo section but they don't seem to display
the name of the uploader.

Mike

PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> Nice home page picture.
>
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/>
>
> Is this another of yours Neil? I don't see a "Foster" autograph!
>
> Michael

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----- Original Message -----

From: HollowedOut

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 3:07 PM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Dr. Doolittle... "chatting with a chimp in chimpanzee"...

Toot Sweats!! I wanted those more than any candy... and then WHISTLE POPS CAME!!!! YEA!!!!

 

GOD I hated that movie!! LOL

 

-Chris

Michael Whitty <Michael.Whitty@...> wrote:

Ihad 2 records I played repeatedly as a child - Dr D and Chitty Bang
Bang!

Michael


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e ...> wrote:
>   Actually, I had a mixed reaction to "Dr. D". I thought it was
kind of clunky in parts. But it was fun. I just find it hard to
believe that Fox thought it would be their big hit. My favorite non-
"Apes" Jacobs is "What A Way to Go'. I taped that and his "Goodbye
Mr. Chips" in letterbox off AMC in the '90's. Still have to buy
the "Dr. D"VD. I'd eventually like to get all Jacobs flicks on DVD.
There weren't many of them. - - - Jeff
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Haristas@a...
>   To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 7:36 AM
>   Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Dr. Doolittle... "chatting with a chimp in
chimpanzee"...
>
>
>   In a message dated 12/27/04 10:30:42 AM Eastern Standard Time,
patrickmichaeltilton@y... writes:
>
>
>
>     *** It's been ages since I saw "DR. DOOLITTLE"
>
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 5:33 AM

Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Booth Colman update

In a message dated 1/3/05 1:25:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

For those in Florida who were interested in Booth Colman's March appearance in Ft. Lauderdale (it's March 12-13) here's the details. Buck Kartalian (Julius) will be there too.   http://www.spookyempire.com/pop_culture_convention/     - - - Jeff

Oh, yes.  That's going to be at the Holiday Inn next to the airport.  I went to one of those things several years ago.  Saw Robert Vaughn and Butch Patrick and that chick who was Tabitha on "Bewitched."  Didn't talk to any of them.  If you're not buying their signed photos they really don't want to hear from you, and I never know what to say to them.

How do you handle these things, Jeff?

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 5:33 AM

Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Booth Colman update

In a message dated 1/3/05 1:25:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

For those in Florida who were interested in Booth Colman's March appearance in Ft. Lauderdale (it's March 12-13) here's the details. Buck Kartalian (Julius) will be there too.   http://www.spookyempire.com/pop_culture_convention/     - - - Jeff

Oh, yes.  That's going to be at the Holiday Inn next to the airport.  I went to one of those things several years ago.  Saw Robert Vaughn and Butch Patrick and that chick who was Tabitha on "Bewitched."  Didn't talk to any of them.  If you're not buying their signed photos they really don't want to hear from you, and I never know what to say to them.

How do you handle these things, Jeff?

-- Rory

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In a message dated 1/9/2005 10:36:50 A.M. Central Standard Time, ursus3978@... writes:

In case anyone isn't aware, this is a very good site with toy reviews:
http://www.mwctoys.com/REVIEW_122904.htm

 

I had to correct him on that review.

He correctly identified the hobble skirt as brown.

But his wife told him he was color blind and he

reversed himself.  The same thing happens with

Clint Eastwood's poncho in the Spaghetti Westerns,

only backwards.  It actually is green.  But the

prints have yellowed with age making people

think it's brown.

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 11:31 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Sideshow Zira and Cornelius

In a message dated 1/9/2005 10:36:50 A.M. Central Standard Time, ursus3978@... writes:

In case anyone isn't aware, this is a very good site with toy reviews:
http://www.mwctoys.com/REVIEW_122904.htm

 

I had to correct him on that review.

He correctly identified the hobble skirt as brown.

But his wife told him he was color blind and he

reversed himself.  The same thing happens with

Clint Eastwood's poncho in the Spaghetti Westerns,

only backwards.  It actually is green.  But the

prints have yellowed with age making people

think it's brown.

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In a message dated 1/9/2005 6:01:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

a letter from Buck

 

I always though that Norm Grabowski would have made a

great gorilla.  But he did do The Monkey's Uncle and The

Naked Ape.  I used to think he was Buck.

 

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In a message dated 1/9/2005 6:34:48 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

I could have SWORN it was brown!

Somebody should mass produce replica ponchos!

 

They do, if you want to spend the $600 I'll send you a link.

 

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In a message dated 1/9/2005 7:51:22 P.M. Central Standard Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

I could have SWORN it was brown!

Somebody should mass produce replica ponchos!

 

They do, if you want to spend the $600 I'll send you a link.

 

 

That's for the brown one.  If you want the movie correct green it's

only $450.  Who'da thought it's cost so much for a piece of cloth

with a hole in it.  I've bought Mexican ponchos for 1/20th of that!

 

<<One outstanding poncho, currently being marketed is nice enough but retails at $600 and is the wrong color. Our Eastwood Poncho is the exact color of the original which was Olive Green not Brown. (This is a common mistake as most old '60's photos tend to turn reddish. See the new DVD releases.) >>

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When you get something that color under the tight light

it will have other color elements show up in it.  Look

at Zira's jacket.  At times you can see orange in it.

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 12:51 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Sideshow Zira and Cornelius

In a message dated 1/9/2005 6:34:48 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

I could have SWORN it was brown!

Somebody should mass produce replica ponchos!

 

They do, if you want to spend the $600 I'll send you a link.

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How did you manage ot get the heads off the body. I was wanting to
swap Taylors head but was afraid I would break it and not be able to
use it.
Please let me know
Thanks
John



Dear all,

>
> I have been checking the Medicom sculpts after all these posts

about

> the quality of the Sideshow figures(I have just fallen in love

with

> them I'm afraid.) And as I have a few spares of the Medicoms I
> thought I would try something that I have been meaning to do for a
> long time. I have swapped an Astro Cornelius head onto a spare

Pota 1

> Cornelius body. It looks superb by the way. I now have an Escape
> Cornelius in classic costume. But..... I have now realised there

are

> three Medicom Cornelius's! The original green (same as Zira), a
> darker green more detailed glyph Cornelius and the rare Very
> dark,lite faced Cornelius? (And now,another I have just put
> together...and the Astro Cornelius)Did Medicom do this to any of

the

> other Characters?
>
> P.s. Still need Ceasers lands ape (chimp) as The e-bay member I
> bought it off has disapeared from the site after taking my money!!
>
> Keep the Ape faith.
>
> John (UK)

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The Green

 

 

Spaghetti Western Replicas,

 

The Brown

 

Spaghetti Western Replicas, Gunfighter Gear and Accessories

 

The Clint Gear

 

 

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I've seen those! Yeah they are pretty accurate looking. I love the
Dollars trilogy, but within a budget. The poncho even appears red in
some of the film posters, oddly enough.

Off topic: I made a small replica of the poncho via that site and the
DVDs for figure customs, including a friends' Man with no Name 12''
custom figure.

Here's some pics if you're curious:
small scale, on a Xevoz Coyboy-
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/verde1/clint1.jpg

Here's my friend's Clint, whom I made the larger poncho for. (The
figure itself is an unnofficial 12'' Japanese one, since Clint won't
give out his likeness for toys).
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/verde1/clint2.jpg

The guy who owns this is actually the guy who created the Simpsons
Dr.Zaius custom, small world. :)

Mike

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 1/9/2005 6:34:48 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> Michael.Whitty@d... writes:
>
> I could have SWORN it was brown!
>
> Somebody should mass produce replica ponchos!
>
>
>
> They do, if you want to spend the $600 I'll send you a link.

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The Green

 

"CLINT EASTWOOD SPAGHETTI WESTERN PONCHO in Green

 

The Brown

 

Spaghetti Western Replicas Brown Poncho

 

The Gear

 

Spaghetti Western Replicas, Gunfighter Gear and Accessories

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In a message dated 1/9/2005 8:37:14 P.M. Central Standard Time, doctahoot@... writes:

Off topic: I made a small replica of the poncho via that site and the
DVDs for figure customs, including a friends' Man with no Name 12''
custom figure. 

 

Interestingly, The Man With No Name, actually had a name.

It was . . . Argh!  He got me!  ugh.

No seriously, his name was Joe Monco, aka Blondie.

A pretty unmanly alias for Ol' Joe.  On the other hand,

it's better than Lee Van Cleef's name, Angle Eyes.  : P

 

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True, pulling the names from each movie that's it- but "The Man with
No Name" just sounds much cooler :)

Some fans believe that since the names differ and the fact that Van
Cleef appeared as two seperate characters, then Clint must be a
different bounty hunter in each flick. But I just don't buy that...

Mike

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 1/9/2005 8:37:14 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> doctahoot@y... writes:
>
> Off topic: I made a small replica of the poncho via that site and the
> DVDs for figure customs, including a friends' Man with no Name 12''
> custom figure.
>
>
>
> Interestingly, The Man With No Name, actually had a name.
> It was . . . Argh! He got me! ugh.
> No seriously, his name was Joe Monco, aka Blondie.
> A pretty unmanly alias for Ol' Joe. On the other hand,
> it's better than Lee Van Cleef's name, Angle Eyes. : P

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In a message dated 1/9/2005 8:53:47 P.M. Central Standard Time, doctahoot@... writes:

True, pulling the names from each movie that's it- but "The Man with
No Name" just sounds much cooler :)

 

You're right.  And you're right about another thing.

There is no direct connection between his characters

in the three movies, though He is called Joe in two of

them, and just Monco in the other.  But even in the

fake Spaghetti westerns like High Plains Drifter

and Pale Rider . . . Josey Wales etc he seems

to be playing the same guy.  He seldom smiles,

never laughs and never misses.

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In a message dated 1/9/2005 8:37:14 P.M. Central Standard Time, doctahoot@... writes:

made a small replica of the poncho via that site and the
DVDs for figure customs, including a friends' Man with no Name 12''
custom figure. 

 

Wow!  How did you make those?

If it's not too hard I'm going to start

looking for an old Army blanket now!

 

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.html.html In a message dated 1/9/2005 8:45:07 PM Central Standard Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

No seriously, his name was Joe Monco, aka Blondie.

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.html.html In a message dated 1/9/2005 8:53:42 PM Central Standard Time, doctahoot@... writes:

Some fans believe that since the names differ and the fact that Van
Cleef appeared as two seperate characters, then Clint must be a
different bounty hunter in each flick. But I just don't buy that...

I agree with you here... Those films are sequels to each other. And to me, a sequel is the continuation of at least one character, which is what the $$$ trilogy is... It's Clint's same character throughout the series...

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.html.html In a message dated 1/9/2005 11:05:50 PM Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

Has anyone seen the show "Monsterama"? It's a series on something called the Monster Channel and they've done episodes on POTA collectibles and one on Apemania.

I think the real question should be: If anyone here has seen it, did they tape it, and if so, will they be able to make copies of it?!

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-----Original Message-----
From: mlccougar@... [mlccougar@...]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 4:08 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Monsterama

In a message dated 1/9/2005 11:05:50 PM Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

Has anyone seen the show "Monsterama"? It's a series on something called the Monster Channel and they've done episodes on POTA collectibles and one on Apemania.

I think the real question should be: If anyone here has seen it, did they tape it, and if so, will they be able to make copies of it?!

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Or Alex in Florida??

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 1/9/2005 9:14:41 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Yup - that sounds like the right question!

 

I wonder if Brian at Apemania has a copy....?

Michael

 

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.html.html In a message dated 1/9/2005 11:16:22 PM Central Standard Time, kidro85@... writes:

Or Alex in Florida??

I think Alex has gone the way of the dinosaur... Or, at least the way of an uninterested APES fan after the whole pota2001 thing...<.html <.html

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In a message dated 1/9/2005 9:51:08 P.M. Central Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

I agree with you here... Those films are sequels to each other. And to me, a sequel is the continuation of at least one character, which is what the $$$ trilogy is... It's Clint's same character throughout the series...

 

Just one question then.

He finds the poncho at the end of GB&U.

Wasn't he wearing it in FFoDs?  Or is it

a different one?

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In a message dated 1/9/2005 11:05:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

"Monsterama"? It's a series on something called the Monster Channel

 

There's a Monster Channel?

I'm going to contac my cable company!

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> Nice home page picture.

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/
<http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/>
Is this another of yours Neil? I don't see a "Foster" autograph!

-- Guilty! I had a black and white pic' that I had done a while ago
and I wanted to do a bit of experimenting with colouring using the
computer. (No this does not mean I will be colouring the comics,
sorry!)

neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> Really? I could have SWORN it was brown!

-- No T is correct it was green, some sort of olive type green I
think. I have seen or read somewhere where Clint has mentioned this
and he would know as he supplied most of his own wardrobe.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , LordTZer0@A... wrote:

> Just one question then. He finds the poncho at the end of GB&U.

Wasn't he wearing it in FFoDs? Or is it a different one?

-- I think it's the same one. GB&U must be set before the other two.
I think in FaFDM something is mentioned about Colonel Mortimer
(Cleef) having fought in the Civil war and it being past tense?

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> It is slightly OT, however his long time gal Sondra Locke did have

a role in theTV Series!

-- All this OT talk about the 'man with no name' has me wanting to
do a comic strip about an ape bounty hunter! Whitty get writing...

Neil

OK - so you were trying to "produce something that would have been
produced in the summer of 1974" - that refers to a parody of a 2004
Mel Gibson film???????

I'm confused - surely one contradicts the other?

Michael

--- In pota@yahoogroups.com, "James" <JamesA1102@a...> wrote:
>
>
> That's a good catch and speaks to our overall approach in putting
> the Herald together.
>
> We looked at the five film Heralds and noted that some the plot
> details were either vague or incorrect. We realized that those
> Heralds were most likely put together by people in FOX's promotion
> department who had not seen the final films and may have only read
> the script or a synopsis.
>
> Since the goal was to produce something that would have been
> produced in the summer of 1974, we took the same tack. We assumed
> FOX's promotion department would only have the first completed
> episode to base it on as well as only a brief synopsis of future
or
> still in production episodes.
>
>
> --- In pota@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:
> >
> > While I have no "real problems" with it, if I had something to
> critique, it
> > would be the parts in the articles that refer to Yalu as a
> Councilor... While
> > he did become a Councilor, at the time of Galen's getting
involved
> with the
> > astronauts, etc. he was not elected yet... Since you can assume
> that "The
> > Interrogation" takes place some time after the astronauts
arrival,
> then Yalu's
> > election would be that much later too... After all, Anne tells
> Galen that his father
> > has just been elected to the Council...

Um, I've seen "The Brothers Grimm" and after it comes out Gilliam won't be
allowed to direct traffic. Unless they've "fixed" it somehow - - - it's
scheduled to come out next November, a year after it was supposed to come
out.
A director for POTA2? You're not going to get one of the big boys. They
won't want to follow up POTA2001. Most top directors wouldn't direct a
sequel to someone else's movie anyway. Probably it would be someone we
haven't even thought of. Hopefully not the director of "Alien vs.
Predator"! - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
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To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 4:53 AM
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Digest Number 1321


>
> Well, Gilliam just worked with Matt Damon......
>
> And if we got Uma involved....
>
> Sounding like the POTA2001 cast eh?
>
> Screw the cast - the POTA2001 cast was AWESOME - we need a story; we
> need a REAL director. Right Jeff?
>
> Michael
>
>
> >
> > ----------
> > From: sparkytb2005[SMTP:SPARKYTB@...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 11:38:33 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
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> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
> > In a message dated 1/3/05 7:04:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > Mithril1960@a... writes:
> >
> >
> > > I'd cast Christopher Walken as Taylor.
> > >
> >
> > Too old now! Somebody like Matthew Modine would be better.
> >
> > -- Rory
>
>
> Rory --
>
> Modine's a wimp -- and he looks like a teenager in the way DiCaprio
> always will -- regardless of talent.
>
> This concept requires maturity. Try looking across the pond to
> actors like Colin Farrell or Clive Owen.
>
> More interesting and mature, IMHO.
>
> Mark.
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In a message dated 1/10/2005 1:30:08 A.M. Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

I have seen or read somewhere where Clint has mentioned this
and he would know as he supplied most of his own wardrobe.

Yeah, in fact I believe he bought the poncho from Western Costume,

the same place where much of out beloved Apes stuff is stored.  I

think he bought those Stove pipe boots on Rodeo Drive.

 

 

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In a message dated 1/10/2005 1:40:19 A.M. Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

I think in FaFDM something is mentioned about Colonel Mortimer
(Cleef) having fought in the Civil war and it being past tense?

If that's the case then his character rose from the dead,

but lets not start the religion thread again, unless it's

Ape religion.

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In a message dated 1/10/2005 1:46:05 A.M. Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

-- All this OT talk about the 'man with no name' has me wanting to
do a comic strip about an ape bounty hunter! Whitty get writing...

 

That sounds like a good one.

POTA has a lot of Western elements.

Star Wars was, in fac,t a Western.

 

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.html.html In a message dated 1/10/2005 1:40:20 AM Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

-- I think it's the same one. GB&U must be set before the other two.
I think in FaFDM something is mentioned about Colonel Mortimer
(Cleef) having fought in the Civil war and it being past tense?

I don't think it is a prequel to the others... After all, the Civil War was a few years long, so he could have fought in it at the beginning of the war and GB&U could have been towards the end of it...

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Neil,

You know Dave Ballard gave us a script for a tale of a bounty hunter
gorilla in the POTATV universe? Remember? I have not read it for a
while but I seem to recall it was a great story - maybe if you
behave and get another 59 pages of "Going Home" done we will
consider it!

But I think Chris Lawless' script is next in line.....Chris - I'll
pay you double if you get it completed by the end of February!

T, Star Wars is not only a Western, but it is a VERY good western!

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 1/10/2005 1:46:05 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> nfoster@h... writes:
>
> -- All this OT talk about the 'man with no name' has me wanting
to
> do a comic strip about an ape bounty hunter! Whitty get
writing...
>
>
>
>
> That sounds like a good one.
> POTA has a lot of Western elements.
> Star Wars was, in fac,t a Western.

It is very difficult to discuss religion without going to war over
it - and the history of humans can prove this.

I don't mind discussing religious things if we can all stay
respectful and not attack each other (intentionally or otherwise) -
and the custom here in Australia is to be respectful and intelligent
enough to realise that you should not discuss personal religious
beliefs or voting preferences.....everyone (even within one
particular faith or political party) just does NOT agree!

Go ahead and prove me wrong if you wish, but I guarantee if we go
that way we will be at each other's throats withing MINUTES!

Let's instead prove that we can make an UNmoderated group work by
being wise enough to realise some things can't be discussed wisely.

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 1/10/2005 1:40:19 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> nfoster@h... writes:
>
> I think in FaFDM something is mentioned about Colonel Mortimer
> (Cleef) having fought in the Civil war and it being past tense?
>
>
>
> If that's the case then his character rose from the dead,
> but lets not start the religion thread again, unless it's
> Ape religion.

I have seen an interview where he tells of the location of the
poncho.

I really have to get one of these. Alongside the POTA Glyphs the
pattern on the poncho is something I have loved for over 25 years!

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 1/10/2005 1:30:08 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> nfoster@h... writes:
>
> I have seen or read somewhere where Clint has mentioned this
> and he would know as he supplied most of his own wardrobe.
>
>
>
> Yeah, in fact I believe he bought the poncho from Western Costume,
> the same place where much of out beloved Apes stuff is stored. I
> think he bought those Stove pipe boots on Rodeo Drive.

I hope you are wrong Jeff.

I think he is a genius - I just think he's about 10,000 years ahead
of the rest of us.

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> Um, I've seen "The Brothers Grimm" and after it comes out
Gilliam won't be
> allowed to direct traffic. Unless they've "fixed" it somehow - - -
it's
> scheduled to come out next November, a year after it was supposed
to come
> out.
> A director for POTA2? You're not going to get one of the big
boys. They
> won't want to follow up POTA2001. Most top directors wouldn't
direct a
> sequel to someone else's movie anyway. Probably it would be
someone we
> haven't even thought of. Hopefully not the director of "Alien vs.
> Predator"! - - - Jeff
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...>
> To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 4:53 AM
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Digest Number 1321
>
>
> >
> > Well, Gilliam just worked with Matt Damon......
> >
> > And if we got Uma involved....
> >
> > Sounding like the POTA2001 cast eh?
> >
> > Screw the cast - the POTA2001 cast was AWESOME - we need a
story; we
> > need a REAL director. Right Jeff?
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > >
> > > ----------
> > > From: sparkytb2005[SMTP:SPARKYTB@H...]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 11:38:33 AM
> > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Digest Number 1321
> > > Auto forwarded by a Rule
> > >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
> > > In a message dated 1/3/05 7:04:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > > Mithril1960@a... writes:
> > >
> > >
> > > > I'd cast Christopher Walken as Taylor.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Too old now! Somebody like Matthew Modine would be better.
> > >
> > > -- Rory
> >
> >
> > Rory --
> >
> > Modine's a wimp -- and he looks like a teenager in the way
DiCaprio
> > always will -- regardless of talent.
> >
> > This concept requires maturity. Try looking across the pond to
> > actors like Colin Farrell or Clive Owen.
> >
> > More interesting and mature, IMHO.
> >
> > Mark.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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.html.html In a message dated 1/10/2005 7:10:17 AM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

T, Star Wars is not only a Western, but it is a VERY good western!

I never get the "western" comparison... SW is more like Buck Rogers or something, or "cliff hanger" serials...

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Ooops - I really did not mean to send this to the DG.

For the heated religious debate, tune in to our "sister group".

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/Pota

Michael


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

>
> OK - so you were trying to "produce something that would have

been

> produced in the summer of 1974" - that refers to a parody of a

2004

> Mel Gibson film???????
>
> I'm confused - surely one contradicts the other?

Cougar,

Replace the lassers with 6 shooters and the ships with horses and
the vader costume with a black hat......it's a Western dressed up as
Sci-Fi as surely as Apeslayer is ape heads drawn on another comic
strip!

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 1/10/2005 7:10:17 AM Central Standard Time,
> Michael.Whitty@d... writes:
>
> > T, Star Wars is not only a Western, but it is a VERY good
western!
>
> I never get the "western" comparison... SW is more like Buck
Rogers or
> something, or "cliff hanger" serials...

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In a message dated 1/10/2005 7:21:01 A.M. Central Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

I never get the "western" comparison... SW is more like Buck Rogers or something, or "cliff hanger" serials...

 

It's all of those.

It's also based on the Quest myths.

So it also has a lot in common with LOTR.

 

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Here's some info - I'll get back as I find out more!

Michael

>
> ----------
> From: Brian[SMTP:AFRYT4U@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, 11 January 2005 4:00:00 AM
> To: Whitty, Michael
> Subject: Re: FW: [PotaDG] Monsterama
> Auto forwarded by a Rule
>

I don't have clean copies, but I can try to get info on how to get them.
My episode is pretty cool, cuz Cassandra Peterson (ELVIRA) narates!!!

Bri

Whitty, Michael wrote:


Brian

Do you have copies of these?

Michael

Thx Elaine. That is so kind of you. If you want to
spruce up your SS Cornelius I'm going to make some
glyphs to replace the existing ones. If your
interested I'll mail you out a set.

CH




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Partly, not to mention a nod to movies with dogfights, swordfights,
etc etc. And it's ripped from Kurasawa's The Hidden Fortress. (and
hey, Fistful was ripped from Kurasawa's Yojimbo. Which in turn was a
Dashiell Hammett novel anyhow).

If you look at some of the early concept art for Empire, you can see
that Boba Fett originally wore his cape thing just like clint's
poncho. Mortimer's custom gun from FaFDM looks like it was the
inspiration for Fett's fun as well.

I also sort've wonder if Wookies were somewhat inspired by Planet of
the Apes. And maybe the Emporer's albino w/dark cloak appearance was
taken from the mutants of The Omega Man, but that's stretching things.

Mike

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>

> That sounds like a good one.
> POTA has a lot of Western elements.
> Star Wars was, in fac,t a Western.

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , LordTZer0@A... wrote:

>
> Wow! How did you make those?
> If it's not too hard I'm going to start
> looking for an old Army blanket now!

Thanks! I just printed the design onto some iron-on transfer paper,
then pressed the image into some scrap fabric.

Mike

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:

> -- All this OT talk about the 'man with no name' has me wanting to
> do a comic strip about an ape bounty hunter! Whitty get writing...
>
> Neil

I could go for that.

Mike

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , LordTZer0@A... wrote:

> It's all of those.
> It's also based on the Quest myths.
> So it also has a lot in common with LOTR.

Ya I agree. Even Joseph Campbell has taken Star Wars as a blueprint
for those typical archetype (archetypical?) stories. And speaking of
Lucas, Star Wars, and LOTR, all them them seemed compacted into the
movie Willow pretty tightly. Notice how you can easily compare the
characters back and forth from these flicks.

Mike

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-----Original Message-----
From: mlccougar@... [mlccougar@...]
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 11:50 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: The GB&U (OT)

In a message dated 1/10/2005 1:40:20 AM Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

-- I think it's the same one. GB&U must be set before the other two.
I think in FaFDM something is mentioned about Colonel Mortimer
(Cleef) having fought in the Civil war and it being past tense?

I don't think it is a prequel to the others... After all, the Civil War was a few years long, so he could have fought in it at the beginning of the war and GB&U could have been towards the end of it...

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-----Original Message-----
From: John Brandon Kirtley [johnbkirtley@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 8:27 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Suprise Medicom find!!!!

There's a small white disc that I eased out of the body which is in two pieces

(the body) that's on the ape bodies any way. The Astro Cornelius space suit just comes in two and goes straight back into shape. The Astro Cornelius head on the Pota 1 Cornelius body looks just like Roddy on the cover of the paperback and Escape posters. It looks great.

 

Hope you are well.

John (UK)

----- Original Message -----

From: luke_the_drifter52

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: 10 January 2005 02:28

Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Suprise Medicom find!!!!

How did you manage ot get the heads off the body. I was wanting to
swap Taylors head but was afraid I would break it and not be able to
use it.
Please let me know
Thanks
John

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-----Original Message-----
From: John Brandon Kirtley [johnbkirtley@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 8:36 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Suprise Medicom find!!!!

I have them in front of me now. Theres the Cornelius from Pota 1 the same green as Zira and Lucius. Then theres the dark brown one with the very

pale face but I have a green Cornelius that is a darker green and not so many

lines around the face???   Any way I have a feeling the Folk at Medicom played around with this figure as there are definatly three.. Not including the Astro or the Escape Cornelius I have put together. As for Spares I have spare Nova loose and I have Aldo, Lucius and TV Gorilla boxed if you want them.

 

Hope you are well.

John (UK)

----- Original Message -----

From: Mike

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: 09 January 2005 23:05

Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Suprise Medicom find!!!!

John,

Good call, I had a similar idea for the Cornelius heads after I
finally got a hold of a chimp suit Corny and noticed the facial
differences.  The Escape version's much cleaner, but I'm hesitant
about switching since green Cornelius is one of the only Medicom I
keep sealed. (besides Astro-Taylor, but I have an opened extra of him)   

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-----Original Message-----
From: Mike [doctahoot@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 8:40 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Sideshow Zira and Cornelius

Partly, not to mention a nod to movies with dogfights, swordfights,
etc etc.  And it's ripped from Kurasawa's The Hidden Fortress. (and
hey, Fistful was ripped from Kurasawa's Yojimbo. Which in turn was a
Dashiell Hammett novel anyhow).

If you look at some of the early concept art for Empire, you can see
that Boba Fett originally wore his cape thing just like clint's
poncho.  Mortimer's custom gun from FaFDM looks like it was the
inspiration for Fett's fun as well. 

I also sort've wonder if Wookies were  somewhat inspired by Planet of
the Apes.  And maybe the Emporer's albino w/dark cloak appearance was
taken from the mutants of The Omega Man, but that's stretching things.

Mike

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
> 

> That sounds like a good one.
> POTA has a lot of Western elements.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Mike [doctahoot@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 8:43 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Sideshow Zira and Cornelius

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:

> -- All this OT talk about the 'man with no name' has me wanting to
> do a comic strip about an ape bounty hunter! Whitty get writing...
>
> Neil

I could go for that.

Mike

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-----Original Message-----
From: Mike [doctahoot@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 8:48 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: SW (ot)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:

> It's all of those.
> It's also based on the Quest myths.
> So it also has a lot in common with LOTR.

Ya I agree.  Even Joseph Campbell has taken Star Wars as a blueprint
for those typical archetype (archetypical?) stories.  And speaking of
Lucas, Star Wars, and LOTR, all them them seemed compacted into the
movie Willow pretty tightly.  Notice how you can easily compare the
characters back and forth from these flicks.

Mike

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You know, with all the attention to detail that Medicom gave the line,
you'd think they'd get the color right! Or again, maybe it was an
intentional varient. Varients are one thing, but it would have been
cool for them to make space for some Mutants and other humans too.

Mike

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:

> The dark Cornelius is worth keeping on the card.
>
> It is a "one per case" intended variant.
>
> It is rare and it fetches up to $100 on ebay - but only SEALED!
>
> Michael

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-----Original Message-----
From: Mike [doctahoot@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 9:21 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Dark Cornelius Medicom

You know, with all the attention to detail that Medicom gave the line,
you'd think they'd get the color right!  Or again, maybe it was an
intentional varient. Varients are one thing, but it would have been
cool for them to make space for some Mutants and other humans too.

Mike

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:
> The dark Cornelius is worth keeping on the card.
> 
> It is a "one per case" intended variant.
> 
> It is rare and it fetches up to $100 on ebay - but only SEALED!
>
> Michael

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:

> Am I getting the impression that a lot of POTA fans are

Eastwood/spaghetti

> western fans?
>
> Michael

Seems that way :) I can't even recall how we came upon the topic, but
it's cool to see some of us have share similar movie tastes apart from
the Apes series.

Mike

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Mike" <doctahoot@y...> wrote:

> I also sort've wonder if Wookies were somewhat inspired by Planet

of the Apes.

-- It would be nice if that were the case but I was watching a doco
about one of the Indiana Jones movies the other night and in it
George Lucas mentioned that Chewie was actually inspired by his pet
dog!

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: Mike [doctahoot@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 9:23 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: The GB&U (OT)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:
> Am I getting the impression that a lot of POTA fans are
Eastwood/spaghetti
> western fans?
>
> Michael

Seems that way :)  I can't even recall how we came upon the topic, but
it's cool to see some of us have share similar movie tastes apart from
the Apes series.

Mike

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-----Original Message-----
From: Neil [nfoster@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 9:25 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Sideshow Zira and Cornelius

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <doctahoot@y...> wrote:
> I also sort've wonder if Wookies were  somewhat inspired by Planet
of the Apes.

-- It would be nice if that were the case but I was watching a doco
about one of the Indiana Jones movies the other night and in it
George Lucas mentioned that Chewie was actually inspired by his pet
dog!

Neil

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> And since the Juba comic is an intended nod to spaghetti westerns

(should hear some of Neil's ideas for panels - very wide shots etc!)

-- Yeah so wide that the comic will have to be twice as wide as
usual and we will be doing it all in landscape format. ;-)

Seriously though, I know Dave wrote a 'bounty hunter' story but much
like the other TV story which he gave us permission to use, as he
himself said, it could be a lot better and would need an extensive
rewrite if it were to be used.

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: Neil [nfoster@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 9:39 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: The GB&U and P(OT)A

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> And since the Juba comic is an intended nod to spaghetti westerns
(should hear some of Neil's ideas for panels - very wide shots etc!)

-- Yeah so wide that the comic will have to be twice as wide as
usual and we will be doing it all in landscape format. ;-)

Seriously though, I know Dave wrote a 'bounty hunter' story but much
like the other TV story which he gave us permission to use, as he
himself said, it could be a lot better and would need an extensive
rewrite if it were to be used.

Neil

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In a message dated 1/10/2005 2:12:05 P.M. Central Standard Time, taebokitti@... writes:

I agree with you, Michael. Chris' figures are the best. Elaine

Any pics of them?

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 -----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 10:03 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Sideshow Zira and Cornelius

In a message dated 1/10/2005 2:12:05 P.M. Central Standard Time, taebokitti@... writes:

I agree with you, Michael. Chris' figures are the best. Elaine

Any pics of them?

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In a message dated 1/10/2005 3:44:17 P.M. Central Standard Time, doctahoot@... writes:

Partly, not to mention a nod to movies with dogfights, swordfights,
etc etc.  And it's ripped from Kurasawa's The Hidden Fortress. (and
hey, Fistful was ripped from Kurasawa's Yojimbo. Which in turn was a
Dashiell Hammett novel anyhow).

 

Yeah there's a history of Westerns ripping off Samurai films

and Space Operas ripping off Westerns.  Star Wars did both.

But Kurosawa's Seven Samurai was remade as The Magnificent

Seven and his Yojimbo was remade as A Fist Full Of Dollars,

almost exactly -- right down to the hanging poles used in the

scene where the protagonist fakes a fight after he's already killed

everyone.  But Kurosawa himself adapted other source material

like Shakespeare.  Ran was King Lear, and Kumonosu jô (Throne

of Blood) was Mac Beth, so . . . Fair's fair!  As long as it's good.

 

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In a message dated 1/10/2005 3:44:17 P.M. Central Standard Time, doctahoot@... writes:

I also sort've wonder if Wookies were  somewhat inspired by Planet of
the Apes.  And maybe the Emporer's albino w/dark cloak appearance was
taken from the mutants of The Omega Man, but that's stretching things.

I don't think so.  I think Lucas wanted as many elements

as possible.  Successful stuff that worked.  It's possible

that he or his people thought it some of it up on their own,

but not all of it.  They're infuenced by pop culture like

everyone else.  The Omaega Man was a big hit over five

years before Star Wars was released. He looks just like

Matthias!

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