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In a message dated 1/20/2005 3:09:19 P.M. Central Standard Time, doctahoot@... writes:

Anyone know the exact name for the type of overall green used on the
typical Chimp suits? 

There isn't one.  Though Z & Cs were the same in Escape.Zira's

jacket is a different color from Cornelius'.  It looks a different

shade depending on the lighting.  There's even some orange in

there.  But I'd say that the typical chimp suit is somewhere

between avocado and olive green, with just a hint of artichoke. 

You might get close, but you'll go colorblind trying to match it.

 

 

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In a message dated 1/20/2005 9:09:13 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

think they do give her eyebrows in the Toons!!

That's just plain wrong!

Who do they think they are?

Tim Burton?

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 2:20 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Return DVDs have arrived!

In a message dated 1/20/2005 9:09:13 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

think they do give her eyebrows in the Toons!!

That's just plain wrong!

Who do they think they are?

Tim Burton

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Michael,

 

Did you have a chance to view any of the TZ episodes yet? How would you rate the picture & sound quality?

 

Thanks -- Tony

 

 

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 1/19/2005 7:29:20 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

They arrived today - I'll get copying SOON!!!!

 

Michael

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-----Original Message-----
From: kidro85@... [kidro85@...]
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 3:02 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Twilight Zone DVDs

Michael,

 

Did you have a chance to view any of the TZ episodes yet? How would you rate the picture & sound quality?

 

Thanks -- Tony

 

 

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 1/19/2005 7:29:20 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

They arrived today - I'll get copying SOON!!!!

 

Michael

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I think they do give her eyebrows in the Toons!!

Michael

The "they" at MEGO gave all their APES figures eyebrows...

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-----Original Message-----
From: mlccougar@... [mlccougar@...]
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 3:34 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Return DVDs have arrived!

In a message dated 1/20/2005 9:09:26 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

I think they do give her eyebrows in the Toons!!

Michael

The "they" at MEGO gave all their APES figures eyebrows...

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Hey,

 

Can anybody answer what SIZE the BTB poster is (sorry, I forgot the specs!)?

 

Michael

--

I was going for the "to have a strong, controlling interest in" type
of domination. In fact, there is actually a stong female
representation on the PotaDG Board of Directors [moderators]. Kudos
to the PC DG owners ;)

--Helen

PS There are actually several non-contributing female members of
the POTADG. If any of you ladies out there would like to be enticed
to add your two cents, please send me a private email telling me
what it would take to encourage your participation.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Male dominated?
>
>
> Oh yeah - I guess it is! ;)
>
> Tell 'em, Helen!
>
> Michael
>

Greetings, All!

Now, guys go away!


...


...



I'm hoping for some response from the ladies in this group (the
POTADG). I have a little scheme that I would like your
participation in. I know there are many of you out there, but
without guessing at some IDs, I don't know who you are. Please
contact me privately if you would like to be involved in a bit of
fun at the expense of the guys. This is the only public email I
intend to send, so please get back to me as soon as you can. If you
are a lurker, please still contact me, but you will need to sign up
to be involved in the event. I'm hoping to bring a few of you Ape
ladies out of hiding to claim our place in Ape City.

So, are you with me? Please email me at:
sand_hill_school@.... I will get back to you when I hear from
you and again when we organize. Please send a valid email address
for my reply. You may separate it with spaces, such as dorothytodd
@ yahoo.com , and it won't be picked up by spamming devices in the
transmission.

For those who haven't visited the DG in a while, the address is:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG. Stop in and see what's
going on!

--Helen

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Do you mean the new definitive collection season one? I have seen a few
shows on it, including the Roddy McDowwell episode and the quality is very
impressive indeed.

>Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 23:01:47 EST
> From: kidro85@...
>Subject: Re: Twilight Zone DVDs
>
>
>Michael,
>
>Did you have a chance to view any of the TZ episodes yet? How would you
>rate
>the picture & sound quality?
>
>Thanks -- Tony
>
>

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Kasey/Undomiel 
 
--- "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
 
From: "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...>
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 07:40:32 +1100
To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Female marauders

Don't listen to her ladies!  ;)

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: ape_mom [sand_hill_school@...]
Sent: Saturday, 22 January 2005 2:29 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Female marauders

PS  There are actually several non-contributing female members of
the POTADG.  If any of you ladies out there would like to be enticed
to add your two cents, please send me a private email telling me
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Michael,

You are SO welcome. Pity we're 12,000 miles apart, eh?

MT-B


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> I'll bring nibbles and bourbon......
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sparkytb2005 [sparkytb@h...]
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 1:57 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Apes TV series on my wall
>
>
>
> Guys,
>
> I just had the pleasure of picking up 2 of the Apes tv series "90-
> minuters" from a dealer on Ebay ON 16MM FILM!!!!
>
> OK - granted. The first one I got (cutdown of THE HORSE RACE and
> THE TYRANT) and the second one I'm still to win (a cutdown of THE
> GLADIATORS and THE LEGACY) ----
>
> --- but who wants to come round to my house to see THE LEGACY
> projected ten feet wide on the wall....!!!
>
> Fan-tas-tic.
>
> Mark T-B.
>

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No mate. Just the 90 minute tv movie cutdowns, but it's better than
nothing!!

MT-B

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Indeed.
>
> Any of the Aged Galen clips on the reels?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sparkytb2005 [sparkytb@h...]
> Sent: Saturday, 22 January 2005 11:35 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Apes TV series on my wall
>
>
> Michael,
>
> You are SO welcome. Pity we're 12,000 miles apart, eh?
>
> MT-B
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
> <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> > I'll bring nibbles and bourbon......
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sparkytb2005 [sparkytb@h...]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 1:57 PM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Apes TV series on my wall
> >
> >
> >
> > Guys,
> >
> > I just had the pleasure of picking up 2 of the Apes tv
series "90-
> > minuters" from a dealer on Ebay ON 16MM FILM!!!!
> >
> > OK - granted. The first one I got (cutdown of THE HORSE RACE
and
> > THE TYRANT) and the second one I'm still to win (a cutdown of
THE
> > GLADIATORS and THE LEGACY) ----
> >
> > --- but who wants to come round to my house to see THE LEGACY
> > projected ten feet wide on the wall....!!!
> >
> > Fan-tas-tic.
> >
> > Mark T-B.
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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In a message dated 1/21/2005 4:00:29 P.M. Central Standard Time, mego73@... writes:

Do you mean the new definitive collection season one? I have seen a few
shows on it, including the Roddy McDowwell episode and the quality is very
impressive indeed.

Did Kim ever do one?

I know she did Night Gallery and some other stuff

with Serliing before, as well as Alfred Hitchcock.

 

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How many seasons were there? 500 bucks for the Gold sounds high, yet 100 for the new one isn't cheap. also didn't they make some 1 hour episodes and some 1/2 hour?

 

Tony

 

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 1/21/2005 9:41:22 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

Yes that's the one – the Definitive Collection.  

I was originally going to get the "Gold Edition" but I waited because that would have been $500 in one hit.  

At least this way I can fork out the money for just one season at a time!

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike R [mego73@...]
Sent: Saturday, 22 January 2005 8:57 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Twilight Zone DVDs

·         
Do you mean the new definitive collection season one? I have seen a few
shows on it, including the Roddy McDowwell episode and the quality is very
impressive indeed.

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The following PotaDG poll is now closed. Here are the
final results:


POLL QUESTION: If you HAD to do one of these, which
would it be?

CHOICES AND RESULTS
- Watch POTA 2001, 6 votes, 50.00%
- Watch Playmate of the Apes, 5 votes, 41.67%
- Slit my wrists, 1 votes, 8.33%



For more information about this group, please visit
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.html.html In a message dated 1/22/2005 2:46:14 AM Central Standard Time, kidro85@... writes:

also didn't they make some 1 hour episodes and some 1/2 hour?

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That's sad that it was so close. I feel bad for Tim Burton. Yes, I
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Just curious did they ever make a POTA Colorforms set? Or Play Dough set back in the 70's?  

 

And is Colorforms even around anymore?

 

Anybody caught in the Blizzard? Don't shovel to hard.

 

Tony  

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Play Dough: No. (Of course since you can make anything out of play-doh I guess you can makes your play-doh-apes.)

Dario

kidro85@... wrote:

Just curious did they ever make a POTA Colorforms set? Or Play Dough set back in the 70's?  

 

And is Colorforms even around anymore?

 

Anybody caught in the Blizzard? Don't shovel to hard.

 

Tony  

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Dario Sciola SDM/CBM Design Nortel Networks Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

darios@... (613) 763-5232 ESN: 393-5232 YIM: lmcdasc

Did you hear about the dyslexic, agnostic, insomniac? He was up all night wondering if there really was a dog!

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I was just curious about the Colorforms, and with the play dough - I meant did they make a set, like with plastic molds. I guess not though.

 

Tony

 

 

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 1/22/2005 10:46:08 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, ev001@... writes:

Colorforms: Yes. They occasionally appear on Ebay if you are interested.
Play Dough: No. (Of course since you can make anything out of play-doh I guess you can makes your play-doh-apes.)

Dario

kidro85@... wrote:

Just curious did they ever make a POTA Colorforms set? Or Play Dough set back in the 70's?  

 

And is Colorforms even around anymore?

 

Anybody caught in the Blizzard? Don't shovel to hard.

 

Tony  

--

Dario

 

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  Kids of the '70's might remember the TV shows of Sid and Marty Krofft, whether it was their kids shows (H.R. Puffinstuff) or variety shows ("Donny and Marie"). They were kind of a poor man's Muppets. Anyway, their shows have been making it to DVD in "complete series" sets. They've already released "H.R. Pufinstuff" and two seasons of "Land of the Lost"; on Tuesday their "Lidsville" arrives (one of my favorites as a kid; I'm THERE!). Anyway, they've announced Season 3 of "Land of the Lost" for this spring, maybe May. Our own Ron Harper took over the starring role for what was the last season of this audience favorite. It'll be Virdon battling dinosaurs (and Tim Burton chided on the POTA2001 commentary that "Land of the Lost" was a big influence on the movie). And reportedly on a "Lidsville" commentary the Kroffts mention they are working on a set for their show "Dr. Shrinker" next, which starred Jay Robinson as the title character. Robinson was a main ape in the episode "Tomorrow's Tide".

  Anyway, there's some DVD ideas while waiting for the cartoons. - - - Jeff

 

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How many seasons are there to the Land of the Lost? 3 ?

 

Great show I agree, my favorite right behind POTA.

 

Tony

 

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 1/22/2005 1:32:32 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, terryhoknes@... writes:

some of you might know that LAND OF THE LOST is my favorite tv series

and yes Ron Harper had the lead role for all of season 3

which was filmed 2 years after the POTA tv series

 

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Hoknes

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 2:00 PM

Subject: [PotaDG] POTA TV stars on Krofft DVDs

Yes there were 3 seasons

season 3 is considered the worst

Until the new season box set comes out i won't cast my opinion

but Ron Harper's character does remind me of his POTA character in terms of personality and style

but he also seems like a clone of the character he replaces in the land of the lost series since the writers cast him with basically the same personality as the kids father

 

I do have season 1 and 2 box sets on dvd

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I bought the season 1 Land of the Lost DVD set. Me and my 4 yr. old
have been driving my wife insane since I got it. She's younger than
me and can't believe our son can "get into this crap" the way I do.
Of course he's my mini me and likes all the cheesey 70's stuff his
Dad grew up with. He really likes the RETURN dvd's too. Thanks again
Hunter.

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   Yes, season 3 is considered the worst but Ron Harper still considers it better than POTA. They also did an '80's version that I heard sucked. And they've been trying to get a movie version going. If they ask real nice, maybe Burton will direct it.  - - - Jeff

P.S. Happy belated birthday, Terry!

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Hoknes

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 2:00 PM

Subject: [PotaDG] POTA TV stars on Krofft DVDs

Yes there were 3 seasons

season 3 is considered the worst

Until the new season box set comes out i won't cast my opinion

but Ron Harper's character does remind me of his POTA character in terms of personality and style

but he also seems like a clone of the character he replaces in the land of the lost series since the writers cast him with basically the same personality as the kids father

 

I do have season 1 and 2 box sets on dvd

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They sure did - I have one right here!

I'll have to dig it out and analyse it later!

Michael

-- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, kidro85@a... wrote:

> Just curious did they ever make a POTA Colorforms set? Or Play

Dough set

> back in the 70's?
>
> And is Colorforms even around anymore?
>
> Anybody caught in the Blizzard? Don't shovel to hard.
>
> Tony

No - on the Play-Do.

At least not that I know of but we toy collectors get some real
surprises at times!

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, kidro85@a... wrote:
>
> I was just curious about the Colorforms, and with the play dough -
I meant
> did they make a set, like with plastic molds. I guess not though.
>
> Tony
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 1/22/2005 10:46:08 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> ev001@n... writes:
>
> Colorforms: Yes. They occasionally appear on Ebay if you are
interested.
> Play Dough: No. (Of course since you can make anything out of
play-doh I
> guess you can makes your play-doh-apes.)
>
> Dario
>
> _kidro85@a..._ (mailto:kidro85@a...) wrote:
> Just curious did they ever make a POTA Colorforms set? Or Play
Dough set
> back in the 70's?
>
> And is Colorforms even around anymore?
>
> Anybody caught in the Blizzard? Don't shovel to hard.
>
> Tony
>
>
> --
> Dario

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My daughter Melissa (7) is absolutely blown away by the Twilight
Zone!

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@a...> wrote:
>
> I bought the season 1 Land of the Lost DVD set. Me and my 4 yr.
old
> have been driving my wife insane since I got it. She's younger
than
> me and can't believe our son can "get into this crap" the way I
do.
> Of course he's my mini me and likes all the cheesey 70's stuff his
> Dad grew up with. He really likes the RETURN dvd's too. Thanks
again
> Hunter.

My thoughts are with you!

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> I had a pota colorforms years ago but it faded away in my cellar.
I am
> suppose to be hit with a blizzard tonight, the second one in my
area, I am thinking
> of buying a sled dog team. Elaine

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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Whitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 2:31 PM

Subject: [PotaDG] Twilight Zone DVDs and Planet of the Apes

I think I heard the I hour episodes were to compete with another similar show?

The ½ hour format was the best!

 

I watched the first two episodes yesterday and the sound and picture quality are superb.  Maybe in the future they will be able to get it better but it will be some time.  They even restored Serling announcing a preview for the nest week’s episode, and after “One fr the Angels” a movie is advertised for later that week!  It is like being there except for the commercials.

 

It occurred to me while watching “One for the Angels” how Serling could make us embrace the most silly situations!  Mr Death persuaded to listen to hours of sales pitches in order to distract him from his appointment to take a little girl!  Absurd really, even to the point that Mr Death would carry money around!  Not much science in that fiction, but encapsulating nevertheless.

 

Quite a contrast to the first episode “Where is Everybody?” that includes an experiment on human isolation to determine if one human could fly to the moon (which they thought at the time would take around 480 hours!).

 

I guess this is why I wonder sometimes if we should let go our incapacity to suspend belief get in the way of enjoying POTA.  However it is annoying that there are so many inconsistencies.

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: mlccougar@... [mlccougar@...]
Sent: Saturday, 22 January 2005 9:44 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Twilight Zone DVDs (OT)

 

In a message dated 1/22/2005 2:46:14 AM Central Standard Time, kidro85@... writes:

also didn't they make some 1 hour episodes and some 1/2 hour?

Yes, there was one season that was 1hr. episodes... The rest were 1/2hr.

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What a load of rubbish Veetus!

Eric Greene ;)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> Good points Whitty, but really, name a movie or TV show you
couldn't destroy by over analyzing. Probably not even "My Dinner
With Andre" ("He wouldn't order that!"). - - - Jeff

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They also did an '80's version that I heard sucked.

Actually, it was in the early 90's, not the 80's...

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I'll have to dig it out and analyse it later!

There's nothing to analyze, except the box saying that it's based on the "new tv series" yet the humans are dressed in rags like Taylor and Nova, and of course the tv series had none of that...

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Hunter Goatley <goathunter@g...>
wrote:

> Thanks to Greg P., Marvel UK issue 14 is now available for

download:

>
> http://www.goatley.com/pota/

Thanks again!

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:

> We know that in "real life" female apes learn faster, use tools

sooner, and take responsibility earlier than males. [They're
smarter ;)

-- Hmmm, might be interesting seeing the next few chapters of Within
then and... oops, Gotta go now, I've said too much already! ;-)

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:

>They sure did - I have one right here! I'll have to dig it out and

analyse it later!

-- I think I've seen these on ebay. Are they 'fuzzy felt' things
that you stick together to make figures etc.?

Neil

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, PotaDG@yahoogroups.com wrote:

> This email message is a notification to let you know that a file

has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG group.

> File : /Return paintings/Jeff, Judy & Bill in

spaceship.jpg

> You can access this file at the URL:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Return%20paintings/Jeff%

2C%20Judy%20%26%20Bill%20in%20spaceship.jpg

-- I have just uploaded another of those Return panoramas that I
have been putting together. This one is from the start of the first
episode showing the astronauts seated in their spaceship.

They can all be found in the 'Return paintings' folder in the
Group's files section.

Neil

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----- Original Message -----

From: mlccougar@...

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 9:05 PM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] POTA TV stars on Krofft DVDs

In a message dated 1/22/2005 4:05:04 PM Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

They also did an '80's version that I heard sucked.

Actually, it was in the early 90's, not the 80's...

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In a message dated 1/22/2005 2:16:46 P.M. Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

which starred Jay Robinson as the title character. Robinson was a main ape in the episode "Tomorrow's Tide".

 

He always reminds me of Caesar.

I mean his Caligula, not the Ape Caesar.

 

"Then go!  Into your Kingdom!"

~~Jay Robinson in The Robe~~~~

 

 

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In a message dated 1/22/2005 3:32:32 P.M. Central Standard Time, terryhoknes@... writes:

LAND OF THE LOST

 

Chaka Ogonza!

 

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In a message dated 1/22/2005 4:37:04 P.M. Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

No - on the Play-Do.

At least not that I know of

I seem to remember something like that,

but it may be a different mold set and I'm

just remembering it that way because you

mentioned it.

 

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I think it was based on the RETURN to the PLANET of the APES series.
The pieces look alot like the artwork from the animated series and
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , LordTZer0@A... wrote:

> Yes, I think women should have to use their heads as well as their

hands

*** Nudge nudge, wink wink, say-no-more say-no-more, eh?

Monty

When we first meet Cornelius, Zaius chats it up with him and mentions
that he hears he's planning a new archeological expedition...

With the Academy's approval, Cornelius points out.

"It will require MY support, of course," Zaius adds.

"I hope I may count on it," Cornelius replies.

"Cornelius, a friendly warning: As you dig for artifacts, be sure you
don't bury your reputation..."

Where might Cornelius' "new" expedition be planned for? After his
unsettling trip to the Forbidden Zone -- an expedition that had to
have taken several months, given the amount of terrain to map, and
the building of the causeway leading to the mouth of the Cave, not to
mention all that digging -- he ALMOST was charged with heresy, for
daring to suggest his theory of "evolution" to explain the artifacts
he'd discovered in a FORBIDDEN area.

You'd think the Academy would keep him on a VERY short leash, from
that point on. Although, it shouldn't be that difficult, since he
DOES cave from the pressure -- Zira has to say to him, "Cornelius,
SHOW SOME STRENGTH!" to get him to speak up in favor of
his "brilliant" hypothesis. He seems to be easy to intimidate: he
wants to be a success at his work, and the threat of having his
Academic credentials taken away from him probably scared him
straight.

I wonder if his "new" expedition is, perhaps, an attempt to further
the orthodox version of Ape History -- rather than his table-turning
theory of Evolution -- so that he's essentially "sucking up" to the
Powers-That-Be? If he's looking for the Academy's approval, what
better way than to take on a job that will only bolster their
censored view of history? It would put him in their good graces --
and that SEEMS to be what Cornelius has been cultivating in regards
to Zaius. Zaius is quite chummy with him in their first scene
together, almost as if Zaius had not felt he had to push any harder
the notion that Cornelius' ideas were Heresy. Cornelius had gotten
the point, and taken it to heart, and was now towing-the-party-line.

And so, Zaius could be all chummy with him, like an amiable best-of-
friends. As long as you don't piss him off, he's a "nice guy".

I'd bet that Cornelius' new expedition is planned to be something 180
degrees different than his last expedition to the Forbidden Zone.
Something that wouldn't ruffle any official feathers. A "safe" and
not "dangerous" bit of archaology. Anything to be a success at his
job (and to warrant that raise he mentions), and to avoid being
blacklisted/blackballed.

If only Taylor hadn't shown up, and prompted his uppity wife Zira to
bring to mind his officially-condemned yet brilliant ideas about the
prehistorical Past...!

Patrick

.html.html In a message dated 1/23/2005 7:50:14 AM Central Standard Time, DrZaiusDavis@... writes:

I think it was based on the RETURN to the PLANET of the APES series.
The pieces look alot like the artwork from the animated series and
the humaniods did dress in rags.

No, it's dated 1974, the year the TV series premiered... Also, if you would try to say it was RETURN beased, then explain the Ape City... In the RETURN series, it looks like a "human" city, whereas on the Colorforms set, it looks like it's based on the movie/tv Ape Cities...

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.html.html In a message dated 1/23/2005 8:09:27 AM Central Standard Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

Weren't colorforms just vinyl cutouts?

Yes... And they stuck to the background/play board...<.html <.html

> I seem to be a little behind on everything. Is the animated series
> being sold to this group already? If so, can someone give me the
> info, because I'm ready to buy them this very second, I've been
> waiting since I was a kid for these.

http://www.hoknes.com/return.htm

There is a nominal charge for the discs and postage, or you can send
blank DVD-Rs to Terry and pay return postage.

Hunter

LordTZer0@... wrote:

In a message dated 1/22/2005 4:37:04 P.M. Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

No - on the Play-Do.

At least not that I know of

I seem to remember something like that,

but it may be a different mold set and I'm

just remembering it that way because you

mentioned it.

 

---

There were (I think) three different "Sake N' Mold" toys sets and also two different "Chip away" sets... the first being a mold in a cup where you pour a plaster compound in and it sets up a micro statue. Bummer thing about these sets were you had to destroy the mold to accomplish this task. The chip away was a small block of a crumbly plaster with it you got in the kit a small plastic hammer and chisle. with this said small hammer and chisle you had to chisled small parts of the crumbly plaster from the harder set plaster staute in the block to reveal the statue to paint.

 

These two different art/toy projects I seem to remember seeing... at least in a book. I do have a  "Crazy Soap" which had a POTA themed set. This was a moldeling compound you could play with in the bath. Every one you find today will be stained and the soap has bled through the package. Really makes you weanna lather up with that huh?

 

-Chris

That's what I meant by analysing it - looking at the art and
environment and attempting to determine which particular POTA
show/universe had the most influence on the piece.

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@a...> wrote:
>
> I think it was based on the RETURN to the PLANET of the APES
series.
> The pieces look alot like the artwork from the animated series and
> the humaniods did dress in rags.

A nod's as good as a wink to a blind bat!

Monty Python

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "patrickmichaeltilton"
<patrickmichaeltilton@y...> wrote:

>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
> > Yes, I think women should have to use their heads as well as

their

> hands
>
> *** Nudge nudge, wink wink, say-no-more say-no-more, eh?
>
> Monty

Hmmm. Curious...

--Helen

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> wrote:
> > We know that in "real life" female apes learn faster, use tools
> sooner, and take responsibility earlier than males. [They're
> smarter ;)
>
> -- Hmmm, might be interesting seeing the next few chapters of
Within
> then and... oops, Gotta go now, I've said too much already! ;-)
>
> Neil

Hey Chris,

I actually have a soap without the "bleeding" stain!

I also have the "Mix-n-Mold".

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, HollowedOut <at_deaths_door@y...>
wrote:

> There were (I think) three different "Sake N' Mold" toys sets and

also two different "Chip away" sets... the first being a mold in a
cup where you pour a plaster compound in and it sets up a micro
statue. Bummer thing about these sets were you had to destroy the
mold to accomplish this task. The chip away was a small block of a
crumbly plaster with it you got in the kit a small plastic hammer
and chisle. with this said small hammer and chisle you had to
chisled small parts of the crumbly plaster from the harder set
plaster staute in the block to reveal the statue to paint.

>
> These two different art/toy projects I seem to remember seeing...

at least in a book. I do have a "Crazy Soap" which had a POTA
themed set. This was a moldeling compound you could play with in the
bath. Every one you find today will be stained and the soap has bled
through the package. Really makes you weanna lather up with that huh?

>
> -Chris
>
> Jake Le Master <neptunewanter@y...> wrote:
>
>
> LordTZer0@A... wrote: In a message dated 1/22/2005 4:37:04 P.M.

Central Standard Time, whitty@c... writes:

> No - on the Play-Do.
>
> At least not that I know of
>
> I seem to remember something like that,
> but it may be a different mold set and I'm
> just remembering it that way because you
> mentioned it.
>
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------

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last few days It's been getting thru......
Tim





__________________________________

Yeah, I've got a few of those...amazing that they
could sell a kit with a styrofaom cup , a lid and a
popsicle stirring stick...! Never heard of the Chip
away sets tho....has anyone?
Tim


--- Greg Plonowski <urko3085@...> wrote:

> There were actually 7 Mix N Molds (Cornelius, Galen,
> Urko, Virdon, Burke and two different versions of
> Zaius). Kassidy has pictures of four of them on her
> site, in the collectibles section.
>
> http://planetoftheapestv.150m.com/collectibles4.html"
>
> The others can be seen on pages 68 and 69 of
> Christopher Sausville's collectibles guide.
>
> I had the Urko one when I was a kid. It was the
> first piece of Apes merchandise I ever bought that I
> was disappointed with.
>
> Greg
>
> HollowedOut <at_deaths_door@...> wrote:
> There were (I think) three different "Sake N' Mold"
> toys sets and also two different "Chip away" sets...
> the first being a mold in a cup where you pour a
> plaster compound in and it sets up a micro statue.
> Bummer thing about these sets were you had to
> destroy the mold to accomplish this task. The chip
> away was a small block of a crumbly plaster with it
> you got in the kit a small plastic hammer and
> chisle. with this said small hammer and chisle you
> had to chisled small parts of the crumbly plaster
> from the harder set plaster staute in the block to
> reveal the statue to paint.
>
> These two different art/toy projects I seem to
> remember seeing... at least in a book. I do have a
> "Crazy Soap" which had a POTA themed set. This was a
> moldeling compound you could play with in the bath.
> Every one you find today will be stained and the
> soap has bled through the package. Really makes you
> weanna lather up with that huh?
>
> -Chris
>
>

__________________________________

Hey Chris,

I actually have a soap without the "bleeding" stain!

I also have the "Mix-n-Mold".

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, HollowedOut <at_deaths_door@y...>
wrote:
> There were (I think) three different "Sake N' Mold" toys sets and
also two different "Chip away" sets... the first being a mold in a
cup where you pour a plaster compound in and it sets up a micro
statue. Bummer thing about these sets were you had to destroy the
mold to accomplish this task. The chip away was a small block of a
crumbly plaster with it you got in the kit a small plastic hammer
and chisle. with this said small hammer and chisle you had to
chisled small parts of the crumbly plaster from the harder set
plaster staute in the block to reveal the statue to paint.
> 
> These two different art/toy projects I seem to remember seeing...
at least in a book. I do have a  "Crazy Soap" which had a POTA
themed set. This was a moldeling compound you could play with in the
bath. Every one you find today will be stained and the soap has bled
through the package. Really makes you weanna lather up with that huh?
> 
> -Chris
>
> Jake Le Master <neptunewanter@y...> wrote:
>
>
> LordTZer0@A... wrote: In a message dated 1/22/2005 4:37:04 P.M.
Central Standard Time, whitty@c... writes:
> No - on the Play-Do.
>
> At least not that I know of
>
> I seem to remember something like that,
> but it may be a different mold set and I'm

Yeah, I've got a few of those...amazing that they
could sell a kit with a styrofaom cup , a lid and a
popsicle stirring stick...! Never heard of the Chip
away sets tho....has anyone?
Tim


--- Greg Plonowski <urko3085@...> wrote:

> There were actually 7 Mix N Molds (Cornelius, Galen,
> Urko, Virdon, Burke and two different versions of
> Zaius). Kassidy has pictures of four of them on her
> site, in the collectibles section.
> 
> http://planetoftheapestv.150m.com/collectibles4.html"
> 
> The others can be seen on pages 68 and 69 of
> Christopher Sausville's collectibles guide.
> 
> I had the Urko one when I was a kid. It was the
> first piece of Apes merchandise I ever bought that I
> was disappointed with.
> 
> Greg
>
> HollowedOut <at_deaths_door@...> wrote:
> There were (I think) three different "Sake N' Mold"
> toys sets and also two different "Chip away" sets...
> the first being a mold in a cup where you pour a
> plaster compound in and it sets up a micro statue.
> Bummer thing about these sets were you had to
> destroy the mold to accomplish this task. The chip
> away was a small block of a crumbly plaster with it
> you got in the kit a small plastic hammer and
> chisle. with this said small hammer and chisle you
> had to chisled small parts of the crumbly plaster
> from the harder set plaster staute in the block to
> reveal the statue to paint.
> 
> These two different art/toy projects I seem to
> remember seeing... at least in a book. I do have a
> "Crazy Soap" which had a POTA themed set. This was a
> moldeling compound you could play with in the bath.
> Every one you find today will be stained and the
> soap has bled through the package. Really makes you
> weanna lather up with that huh?
> 
> -Chris
>
>


           
__________________________________
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.html.html In a message dated 1/23/2005 5:10:14 PM Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

Okay, here's one for the ladies!

Yup, so far we see there females as secretaries and doing laundry... That will make the libbers happy...

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.html.html In a message dated 1/23/2005 5:16:10 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

By the way, did the novel or early scripts (or ANYTHING) give Mrs Ursus a NAME?

There was never any mention of Ursus even having a mate... So, you can't name what's not there...<.html <.html

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-----Original Message-----
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In a message dated 1/23/2005 5:16:10 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

By the way, did the novel or early scripts (or ANYTHING) give Mrs Ursus a NAME?

There was never any mention of Ursus even having a mate... So, you can't name what's not there...

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , mlccougar@a... wrote:

> Yup, so far we see there females as secretaries and doing

laundry... That will make the libbers happy...

-- She's not doing the laundry. She's hanging up her dress after
putting on her night clothes.

Neil

.html.html In a message dated 1/23/2005 5:25:53 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Was it Urko then whose wife, and a name, was mentioned?

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , mlccougar@a... wrote:

> There was never any mention of Ursus even having a mate... So, you

can't name what's not there...

-- Well the thing is he has now, so yes we can name her. Any ideas
anyone.

Neil

.html.html In a message dated 1/23/2005 5:28:28 PM Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

-- She's not doing the laundry. She's hanging up her dress after
putting on her night clothes.

Well, either way, she's not out breaking new ground in their society...

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-----Original Message-----
From: Whitty, Michael [Michael.Whitty@...]
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Was it Urko then whose wife, and a name, was mentioned?

 

Michael

-----Original Message-----
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To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
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In a message dated 1/23/2005 5:16:10 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

By the way, did the novel or early scripts (or ANYTHING) give Mrs Ursus a NAME?

There was never any mention of Ursus even having a mate... So, you can't name what's not there...

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.html I think Mrs Ursus should be like her husband, aggressive and domineering. Elaine<.html

.html Urko's wife was mentioned in The trap. Her name is Elta. Elaine<.html

.html.html In a message dated 1/23/2005 5:35:43 PM Central Standard Time, taebokitti@... writes:

I think Mrs Ursus should be like her husband, aggressive and domineering.

Then why would he marry her? They say that opposites attract...

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In a message dated 1/23/2005 8:35:25 A.M. Central Standard Time, patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:

*** Nudge nudge, wink wink, say-no-more say-no-more, eh?

Monty

 

Jizactly

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In a message dated 1/23/2005 1:58:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, urko3085@... writes:

There were actually 7 Mix N Molds

I thought so.  It look like Zira is on the

box with the TV characters.  I can read

it even enlarged.  Is that her, and why?

 

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In a message dated 1/23/2005 2:47:23 P.M. Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

A nod's as good as a wink to a blind bat!

 

One of my fave Pythonism.

 

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I can read it even enlarged.  Is that her, and why?

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.html.html In a message dated 1/23/2005 9:54:58 PM Central Standard Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

It look like Zira is on the box with the TV characters.  I can read it even enlarged.  Is that her, and why?

If there would have been a Zira Mix N Mold with the TV characters, it's be no different than the second wave of Megos (TV based) having a gorilla named Ursus in there, or the way Palitoy had the Megos marketed as "tv series" yet they had Zira tossed in the mix, as well as Ursus...
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In a message dated 1/23/2005 3:26:59 P.M. Central Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:

getting junk mail? I've got spam filters on but the
last few days It's been getting thru......

 

Yeah, this past week that happened to me too.

I'm often surprised by what gets through and what

doesn't.  I have it set to remind me to check it every

three days, so real mail doesn't go unnoticed.

 

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Wow!  I have a sense of nostalgia,

even though I never actually had one.

 

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In a message dated 1/23/2005 3:33:02 P.M. Central Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:

Never heard of the Chip
away sets tho....has anyone?

I have, but I didn't know they had

POTA ones.  They're a hard figure

under a coating of softer material.

Much like the Whittling Sets.  I

doubt they had POTA in those though.

 

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