Click on the word “colorforms”!!!!

http://www.intrateck.com.au/whitty/

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim "apefan" [apefan23@...]
Sent: Friday, 28 January 2005 8:13 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Colorforms Adventure Set

No I didn't ! send me the link again!

Tim

--- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:

> 
> Do you realise the page I linked you to has pictures
> of the cove, the
> inside, the background an the instruction booklet?
> 
> Michael



           
__________________________________

I don’t know – what do you want to see more of Tim?  Anybody else?

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim "apefan" [apefan23@...]
Sent: Friday, 28 January 2005 11:32 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Colorforms Adventure Set

·         That's cool Michael! you need to tell us to keep
clicking! Any other item we should analyse next?

Tim

--- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:

> Click on the word "colorforms"!!!!
> 
> http://www.intrateck.com.au/whitty/
> 
> Michael
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim "apefan" [apefan23@...]
> Sent: Friday, 28 January 2005 8:13 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Colorforms Adventure Set
> 
> No I didn't ! send me the link again!.

I forgot about Galen’s momma!

Yes Cougar, it’s quite absurd!  Please strike that comment from the record!

Hopkins

-----Original Message-----
From: mlccougar@... [mlccougar@...]
Sent: Friday, 28 January 2005 2:58 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Ursus' wife's name

In a message dated 1/27/2005 3:08:47 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

  Or that in the mono name environment the female partner might change her ENTIRE name instead of her surname….?

No way... Look, did Zira change her name? Nope... Did Galen's mother change her's? No again... It wouldn't make sense then to try to say they change it to be similar to their mates...

Well, it is a bit quiet at the moment….

So why don’t you go here:

http://www.intrateck.com.au/whitty/comic.htm

Have a read of “ Gorilla Island” and let me know what you think!

Michael

Thanks Dario, I just realised this myself.

I’ll set about trying to fix the links and I’ll get back to you all (don’t hold your collective breath!).

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Dario [ev001@...]
Sent: Saturday, 29 January 2005 8:32 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Planet of the WHAT!?!?!?

None of the Gorilla links are working, but "Milo" is fine. Are protections set on the source files?

Dario

Michael Whitty wrote:

Well, it is a bit quiet at the moment….

So why don’t you go here:

http://www.intrateck.com.au/whitty/comic.htm

Have a read of “ Gorilla Island ” and let me know what you think!

Michael

Hi Kuiama

She is intelligent – Ursus is a silly power hungry puppet!

She uses her brains, not her gender, to control him and live out her power fantasies through him.

Glad you like my illustrations….Neil has been taking all the credit for them!  ;)

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: kuiama1973@... [kuiama1973@...]
Sent: Saturday, 29 January 2005 9:54 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: One for the girls.....

Hi Michael,

I think Mrs Ursus should be  portrayed as an intelligent Ape and the nest of
advanced humans should be a  female race!!

Cause Women are more intelligent than Men, even in the Ape  world!! Lol! ;-)

This is a great strip by the way, nicely  illustrated.

Yours Truly 2005,

Kuiama.


From: "Whitty,  Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...>

Neil,

This strip looks  fantastic.

I wonder if we should portray Ursus' wife as a silly,  brainless female and
sugest they are all in that category?   ;)

Ladies in this group, what are you thinking the characteristics of  "Mrs.
Ursus" are?

By the way, did the novel or early scripts (or  ANYTHING) give Mrs Ursus a
NAME?

That’s right Neil, but there is the fear and implication that these humans COULD still be around.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil [nfoster@...]
Sent: Saturday, 29 January 2005 12:54 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: One for the girls.....

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, kuiama1973@a... wrote:
> I think Mrs Ursus should be  portrayed as an intelligent Ape and
the nest of advanced humans should be a  female race!!

-- I'm sure she will be ;-) but as for the nest of advanced humans,
we are not implying that they are still around but that they once
existed, aren't we Michael??

Neil

NO!!

They were to be next year’s Christmas Cards!!!

Anonymous

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil [nfoster@...]
Sent: Saturday, 29 January 2005 1:00 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: One for the girls.....

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
>She is intelligent - Ursus is a silly power hungry puppet! She uses
her brains, not her gender, to control him and live out her power
fantasies through him.

-- Damn, so now I have to go back and destroy all those panels I
drew where she is shopping, cooking, cleaning and spending hours
sowing shiny little metal plates on Ursus' tunic!

Neil

Cougar,

Thanks for the information.

Yeah, what the hell are they thinking?

I’d rather see a Virgil than any more Taylors !

If they were genuine (as opposed to genuinely MILKING) they would have a bearded and non-bearded Taylor , with a few different sets of clothes!!!!

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: mlccougar@... [mlccougar@...]
Sent: Saturday, 29 January 2005 6:54 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Check out Sideshow Collectibles, Inc. -

In a message dated 1/28/2005 11:31:11 PM Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

Click here: Sideshow Collectibles, Inc. -

It's a cool enough looking figure, but it really only looks like people will be paying $45.00+ just to have a different outfit, an outfit that could be made for about $2.00 worth of fabric... Well, they'd be paying for the club too, which could probably be made pretty easily...

As neat as the SideShow figures are, they really seem to be milking the hell out of the Taylor image... Make you wonder what's next: Taylor in the exclusive BENEATH loincloth?

Is this MORE rare than other Palitoys?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1169&item=5951783707&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

I know the non-helmet Urko is a rare MEGO, but is it ALSO a rare PALITOY?

Michael

Yes, that’s what I’m getting at!

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: mlccougar@... [mlccougar@...]
Sent: Sunday, 30 January 2005 3:40 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Check out Sideshow Collectibles, Inc. - Planet of the Hestons!

In a message dated 1/29/2005 6:54:33 AM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

They would have a bearded and non-bearded Taylor,

There is a bearded Taylor, in the astronaut suit (dirtied from the Forbidden Zone trek.)
They made the "blanket wearing" Taylor as an unbearded figure, and he looks stupid that way...

What SideShow should have done in the case of Taylor was make the bearded and an unbearded one, and rather than set there selling "exclusives", just make outfit/accessories packs for the figure(s)... Is that what you were getting at?

I don’t know Tony – what’s “notdolls”?

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: kidro85@... [kidro85@...]
Sent: Sunday, 30 January 2005 5:57 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Notdolls- are they gone? ( OT )

Oh I remember these guys, yeah they do a great job.

Hope they haven’t gone bust or something.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: kidro85@... [kidro85@...]
Sent: Sunday, 30 January 2005 9:36 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Notdolls- are they gone? ( OT )

That’s the way I see it and that’s why I love the name Livia too – Tony Soprano’s mother’s role is a very controlling, manipulative, greedy, nasty person and she’s about the only personality type I believe could stay married to a murderer, and raise more.

Also a strong male does need an extremely strong partner (male OR female!).  Even if this partner IS doing the ironing, washing and cooking – she/he really organises the others’ life so he can do what he does.  The same is transferable too – a strong female will also need a strong partner….male or female!  OR no partner!

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: kuiama1973@... [kuiama1973@...]
Sent: Monday, 31 January 2005 7:59 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: One for the girls.....

Hi Michael,

I love your concept!  Ursus IS a silly power hungry puppet!

His wife has the brains and he  has the brauns. ;-)

Yours Truly 2005,

Kuiama. NP - Greg Adams -  Cuts. 2004.

From: "Michael Whitty"  <whitty@...>

Hi Kuiama

She is intelligent  - Ursus is a silly power hungry puppet!

She uses her brains, not her  gender, to control him and live out her
power fantasies through  him.

Glad you like my illustrations..Neil has been taking all the credit  for
them!  ;)

Michael 

I’m trying to put together an ensemble of Simpsons clips that are POTA related.

I have the Rosebud, Fish Named Selma, Deep Space Homer, Planet of the Donuts and In Marge We Trust (sign in font of the Church stating Conquest of the Planet of the Apes) clips.  I also have the clip where Bart gets a “Happy Meal” toy of Liberace saying “Party at Roddy McDowell’s place”.  I included a clip of “Monkey General” – a promo for a show about a hospital run by monkeys….which is getting borderline but hey it’s talking monkeys!

This morning I think I heard POTA music playing in the background in the “My Strummer Vacation” episode (where Homer goes to Music Camp with the Rolling stones)….is that the POTA them?  Have I missed any?

Michael

Hi Patrick – I don’t think this will start a flame war!  At least I hope not!

I agree about the name change – it was something I thought of and mentioned without too much more thinking.  I still think it’s an interesting point that maybe if you have a culture where they have only one name (or DO they?), the name might be changed in marriage (particularly when the premise is to “monkey” human culture).

BUT…..what’s the connection to Laura?

Michael (ignorant Aussie)

-----Original Message-----
From: patrickmichaeltilton [patrickmichaeltilton@...]
Sent: Monday, 31 January 2005 6:58 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Ursus' wife's name

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Or that in the mono name environment the female partner might
change her ENTIRE name instead of her surname..?
>
> Michael

*** I agree with those who don't think it's likely that a female ape
would (or, would be compelled to) change her entire name to be a
feminine-equivalent. After all, the only female gorilla name we know
of is Urko's wife, Elta -- and since she ain't called "Urka" that
should put to rest this entire notion!

I was only tryin' to suggest that a gorilla named (by his
parents) "Ursus" just might feel inclined to "get to know" a female
gorilla who had just happened to have been named "Ursula": the
similarity of their names might be the initial spark that gets him to
think about her...

But she wouldn't have been given a different name by her parents and
then later be forced to take the feminized version of her fiance's
name ("Ursula") when she married him. The name "Elta" refers to
Urko's WIFE, and not to his fiancee, or wife-to-be.

Regardless, I do kinda like the name "Livia" better, though... as
long as it sorta represents the type of female that name implies, due
to its "Sopranos" and "I, Claudius" forerunners.

I don't know where Mike & Neil are going with this "WITHIN" story,
but it's interesting to compare/contrast the Ursus+Wife situation
with the Caesar+Lisa dynamic in "BATTLE". Both ape leaders went on
journeys into their respective Forbidden areas (Zone for Ursus, City
for Caesar), and Lisa did her damnedest to argue with her husband
about his policies regarding the inhabitants of the Zone. Would
Ursus' wife argue with him? or would she egg-him-on, using her powers
of persuasion to get him to do what she'd like done policy-wise?

Maybe Ursus' wife should be named "Laura"...

Hmmm... is that the spark of a soon-to-be flame war? Hope not!

Patrick

Oh yeah, and there’s the Cornfield Roundup clip on the episode “Bart’s Girlfriend”.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Whitty [whitty@...]
Sent: Monday, 31 January 2005 9:45 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] My Strummer Vacation

I’m trying to put together an ensemble of Simpsons clips that are POTA related.

I have the Rosebud, Fish Named Selma, Deep Space Homer, Planet of the Donuts and In Marge We Trust (sign in font of the Church stating Conquest of the Planet of the Apes) clips.  I also have the clip where Bart gets a “Happy Meal” toy of Liberace saying “Party at Roddy McDowell’s place”.  I included a clip of “Monkey General” – a promo for a show about a hospital run by monkeys….which is getting borderline but hey it’s talking monkeys!

This morning I think I heard POTA music playing in the background in the “My Strummer Vacation” episode (where Homer goes to Music Camp with the Rolling stones)….is that the POTA them?  Have I missed any?

Michael

T, do you have a scanner?  ;)

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
Sent: Monday, 31 January 2005 1:33 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Kim Hunter's Autobiographical Cookbook

Thanks T

So it is not just a cookbook?

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
Sent: Monday, 31 January 2005 2:12 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Kim Hunter's Autobiographical Cookbook

So did we ever get to the bottom of the content of this little gem?

Michael

I am……

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil [nfoster@...]
Sent: Monday, 31 January 2005 6:09 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: My Strummer Vacation

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Oh yeah, and there's the Cornfield Roundup clip on the
episode "Bart's Girlfriend".

-- What about the Futurama one(s?), going to do it(them?) also?

Neil

Yes, that’s Rosebud (the first POTA clip on the Simpsons)

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil [nfoster@...]
Sent: Monday, 31 January 2005 5:44 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: My Strummer Vacation

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> I'm trying to put together an ensemble of Simpsons clips that are
POTA related. I have the Rosebud,

--Is this the one where at the end Mr. Burns and Smithers are heads
on robots in the future and there is an ape wagon being pulled by
humans?

Neil

Maybe they were attempting to be ironic!

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: ape_mom [sand_hill_school@...]
Sent: Monday, 31 January 2005 10:50 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: One for the girls.....

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> That's the way I see it and that's why I love the name Livia too -
Tony
> Soprano's mother's role is a very controlling, manipulative,
greedy,
> nasty person and she's about the only personality type I believe
could
> stay married to a murderer, and raise more.

"Livia" comes from the Hebrew "Olivia," meaning Peace.  It's funny
that in the show that you refer to she is controlling, manipulative,
greedy and nasty.  Doesn't sound like they did their homework!

Helen

Huh?

There’s no WAY Milo found a champagne bottle THAT size!  ;)

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: ape_mom [sand_hill_school@...]
Sent: Monday, 31 January 2005 10:51 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Homepage

Nice homepage, Neil!  I love the picture!

I’m onto it!

-----Original Message-----
From: taebokitti@... [taebokitti@...]
Sent: Tuesday, 1 February 2005 4:26 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] My Strummer Vacation

Michael, could you make a copy of those clips for me? Elaine

I found the 3 I know of.

There’s the one you mention, there’s another where they go to the movies and “Planet of the Clams” is playing.

Then there is the one where the go to hire a movie (VHS I THINK!!!) and “Planet of the Clams” is on the shelf.

I copied all these today – I’ll send them to you soon Neil as I’m sure they would make great home page pics.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil [nfoster@...]
Sent: Tuesday, 1 February 2005 11:29 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: My Strummer Vacation

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> I am..

-- And are there any other Futurama POTA references? I only know of
the one where they are down in the sewers and the mutants' cathedral
from Beneath is down there.

Neil

Nice one again Neil!

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 1 February 2005 11:40 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] New file uploaded to PotaDG

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
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I can’t believe nobody has commented on the finale!

I assume there is a general air of displeasure?

Michael

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Within%20the%20Planet%20of%20the%20Apes/Within6pg.pdf

Yes, this is true!

This is Caesar’s timeline and nearly EVERYTHING is altered – mainly by the “alter boys”!

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Plonowski [urko3085@...]
Sent: Wednesday, 2 February 2005 8:02 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Within the Planet of the Apes