I can�t believe nobody has commented on the finale!

 

I assume there is a general air of displeasure?

 

Michael

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Within%20the%20Planet%20of%20the%20Apes/Within6pg.pdf

Well, what would people prefer?

To see more of the TV SHow base "Going Home" or to see more
of "Within"?

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 2/1/2005 2:52:02 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> whitty@c... writes:
>
> I can’t believe nobody has commented on the finale!
>
>
>
> That ending was a bit . . . abrupt.

After all this build up and suspence if I don't get to see some
action between the gorilla military and the human animals I just may
need to start an Ape revolution Ceasar style. Finish what ya started
ya bastards. hehehe

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-----Original Message-----
From: John [DrZaiusDavis@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 2:53 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Within the Planet of the Apes

After all this build up and suspence if I don't get to see some
action between the gorilla military and the human animals I just may
need to start an Ape revolution Ceasar style. Finish what ya started
ya bastards. hehehe

<.html

I didn't realize you had posted more...

:((

Ummm. It says...





"To be continued..."

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> I can't believe nobody has commented on the finale!
>
> I assume there is a general air of displeasure?
>
> Michael
>
> You can access this file at the URL:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Within%20the%20Planet%
20of%20
> the%20Apes/Within6pg.pdf
>
> --

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-----Original Message-----
From: ape_mom [sand_hill_school@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 2:59 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Within the Planet of the Apes

I didn't realize you had posted more...

:((

Ummm.  It says...





"To be continued..."






--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> I can't believe nobody has commented on the finale!
> 
> I assume there is a general air of displeasure?
> 
> Michael
>
> You can access this file at the URL:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Within%20the%20Planet%
20of%20
> the%20Apes/Within6pg.pdf
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It's been done.

--Helen


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> It is finished!
>
> The world is ended - what possible way could we continue this

saga?!?!?!?!

>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John [DrZaiusDavis@a...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 2:53 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Within the Planet of the Apes
>
>
>
> After all this build up and suspence if I don't get to see some
> action between the gorilla military and the human animals I just

may

> need to start an Ape revolution Ceasar style. Finish what ya

started

> ya bastards. hehehe
>
>

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-----Original Message-----
From: ape_mom [sand_hill_school@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 3:18 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Within the Planet of the Apes

It's been done.

--Helen


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> It is finished!
> 
> The world is ended - what possible way could we continue this
saga?!?!?!?!
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John [DrZaiusDavis@a...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 2:53 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Within the Planet of the Apes
>
>
>
> After all this build up and suspence if I don't get to see some
> action between the gorilla military and the human animals I just
may
> need to start an Ape revolution Ceasar style. Finish what ya
started
> ya bastards. hehehe

<.html

I love it!

I'm sure it's full of suspense!

lol

--Helen



--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> Oh yeah - remember this series is "Beyond the Planet of the Apes".
>
> The story is "Within".
>
> The next story is "Without the Planet of the Apes".
>
> It is about life after the earth is destroyed.
>
> Some of Neil's BEST work ever.....A WHOLE BUNCH OF BLANK

PANELS!!!! WA HA HA

> HA HAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!
>
> Mad Mick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ape_mom [sand_hill_school@y...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 2:59 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Within the Planet of the Apes
>
>
>
> I didn't realize you had posted more...
>
> :((
>
> Ummm. It says...
>
>
>
>
>
> "To be continued..."
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...>

wrote:

> > I can't believe nobody has commented on the finale!
> >
> > I assume there is a general air of displeasure?
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > You can access this file at the URL:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Within%20the%20Planet%
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Within%20the%20Planet%
>
> 20of%20
> > the%20Apes/Within6pg.pdf
> >
> > --
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.html.html In a message dated 2/1/2005 2:52:19 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

I assume there is a general air of displeasure?

Yes!<.html <.html

.html.html In a message dated 2/1/2005 3:26:21 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

This is Caesar's timeline and nearly EVERYTHING is altered – mainly by the "alter boys"!

That's just stupid ... If this really was supposed to be "Caesar's Timeline" then there's no guarantee that the world would end up as it was in PLANET/BENEATH... You cannot guarantee there'd even be a Zaius, Ursus, Marcus, etc... Their Ape City might not even look as it was in the original timeline, it may not even exist at all in Caesar's "future"... The world may not even end up destroyed as it was in BENEATH... The species amy co-exist peacefully forever and humans may not even devolve into the beasts they were in PLANET...

I was disappointed in the way this story ended, and the way it ended so "suddenly..."

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-----Original Message-----
From: mlccougar@... [mlccougar@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 4:07 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Within the Planet of the Apes

In a message dated 2/1/2005 3:26:21 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

This is Caesar's timeline and nearly EVERYTHING is altered – mainly by the "alter boys"!

That's just stupid... If this really was supposed to be "Caesar's Timeline" then there's no guarantee that the world would end up as it was in PLANET/BENEATH... You cannot guarantee there'd even be a Zaius, Ursus, Marcus, etc... Their Ape City might not even look as it was in the original timeline, it may not even exist at all in Caesar's "future"... The world may not even end up destroyed as it was in BENEATH... The species amy co-exist peacefully forever and humans may not even devolve into the beasts they were in PLANET...

I was disappointed in the way this story ended, and the way it ended so "suddenly..."

<.html

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> Yeah - and the line "a little bit earlier than expected" seems

almost Pythonesque!

-- So are we still doing the next page of 'Going Home' where Galen
wakes up in an Ape psychiatric hospital and realises it was all a
delusional dream?

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: Neil [nfoster@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 4:54 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Within the Planet of the Apes

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> Yeah - and the line "a little bit earlier than expected" seems
almost Pythonesque!

-- So are we still doing the next page of 'Going Home' where Galen
wakes up in an Ape psychiatric hospital and realises it was all a
delusional dream?

Neil

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In a message dated 2/1/2005 9:08:07 P.M. Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

Well, what would people prefer?

 

More Within please.

But if I get out voted, just keep 'em coming.

Don't feel you have to wrap it up so quickly.

Unless you're just sick of it.  The story should

be at least 20 pages, unless you're going to do

it in chapters, of say, about 5 pages each.  And

then if you're going to take a break, make it a cliff

hanger.

 

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:

> Well, what would people prefer?

To see more of the TV SHow base "Going Home" or to see more
of "Within"?

--Actually getting a bit off this subject, what I would really like
to see is all the Marvel film adaptions collected into graphic
novels, much like Malibu did some years ago with Planet, Beneath &
Escape, but this time for all the movies and have them coloured with
today's technology. Like Dark Horse (I think) has been doing with
the old B&W Marvel 'Conan the Barbarian' comics done by Roy Thomas
and Barry Windsor-Smith.

In fact I would like to see it done with ALL the Marvel Apes stories!

Neil

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In a message dated 2/1/2005 10:01:13 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

It is finished!

 

Well who ever wrote it sucks as a writer then.

That was the worst ending since POTA2K1

It's like someone was given a short story as

an assignment and procrastinated about finishing

it and then just tossed in the last paragraph right

before class.  If Neil was tired of drawing just say so.

 

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In a message dated 2/1/2005 10:01:32 P.M. Central Standard Time, sand_hill_school@... writes:

Ummm.  It says...





"To be continued..."

 

He just said it's finished.

And can't continue because the world blew up.

I wish they'd make up their minds.  Which is it?

 

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In a message dated 2/1/2005 10:03:02 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

The next story is "Without the Planet of the Apes".

 

It is about life after the earth is destroyed.

 

Some of Neil's BEST work ever.....A WHOLE BUNCH OF BLANK PANELS!!!! WA HA HA HA HAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!

 

 

Whatever. 

I was just starting to enjoy that.

You pulled the rug out from under

us just as it was getting interesting.

 

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I've got it! This is a parallel(a)quel to Beware the Beast! It's
perfect! Now, do we get to know what happens to Gideon?

--Helen

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 2/1/2005 10:01:32 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> sand_hill_school@y... writes:
>
> Ummm. It says...
>
>
>
>
>
> "To be continued..."
>
>
>
> He just said it's finished.
> And can't continue because the world blew up.
> I wish they'd make up their minds. Which is it?

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:

> Hi Patrick - I don't think this will start a flame war! At least I

hope not!

>
> I agree about the name change - it was something I thought of and

mentioned without too much more thinking. I still think it's an
interesting point that maybe if you have a culture where they have
only one name (or DO they?), the name might be changed in marriage
(particularly when the premise is to "monkey" human culture).

>
> BUT...what's the connection to Laura?

*** "Laura" as in "The First Lady of the USA", Mrs. Bush. She seems
like a nice lady, and has a nice smile & all... but I don't get the
impression that she was at all opposed to her husband's policy of pre-
emptive war against Iraq. She's probably as gung-ho for it as all the
neocons out there are, but she doesn't let it show on her public
face. She appears to be a smiling, cookie-baking, June Cleaver-type
of Republican wife. Nobody ever doubted that Hillary Rodham-Clinton
was an avid policy-making partner in the Clinton White House (witness
her current job as a Senator in New York State), but Laura Bush has
the opposite vibe going.

And maybe, just maybe, that's all part of the cleverness of the
current forces in power over here. Maybe she IS more involved behind-
the-scenes than any of us would ever suspect. Maybe, in the evenings
when she and Dubya are alone, she steers him in the direction she
wants him to go. Maybe she's more of a motive force behind this
administration's policies than Karl Rove, it that's at all possible!

But you'd never suspect it, watchin' her on TV. She plays her role
perfectly. Remember all those anti-Hillary books that came out during
the last decade? Think we'll ever see any anti-Laura Bush books
hittin' the shelves any time soon? Course not! She learned to keep a
low profile, from having seen Hillary become a target by keeping a
high profile.

Do I sound cynical, folks? Oh well...

Patrick

Stop worrying about collecting other peoples work. Go to hunter's
site, get your Marvel fix and get back to drawing you sick little
monkey!! Besides your art is much truer to the look and feel of
Planet of the Apes. (did that little bit of ass kissing help at the
end?) -- The good Dr. Zaius Davis

Kind of a d'ed if you do, d'ed if you don't. "It's not easy being
me..."

What are you saying? Laura Bush is a nice lady, smiles, maybe even
bakes cookies and tidies the kitchen. BUT, she also supports her
husband's endeavors and encourages his political thinking? What is
she, anyway? Can't really be his wife!

Helen


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "patrickmichaeltilton"
<patrickmichaeltilton@y...> wrote:

>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...>

wrote:

> > Hi Patrick - I don't think this will start a flame war! At

least I

> hope not!
> >
> > I agree about the name change - it was something I thought of

and

> mentioned without too much more thinking. I still think it's an
> interesting point that maybe if you have a culture where they have
> only one name (or DO they?), the name might be changed in marriage
> (particularly when the premise is to "monkey" human culture).
> >
> > BUT...what's the connection to Laura?
>
> *** "Laura" as in "The First Lady of the USA", Mrs. Bush. She

seems

> like a nice lady, and has a nice smile & all... but I don't get

the

> impression that she was at all opposed to her husband's policy of

pre-

> emptive war against Iraq. She's probably as gung-ho for it as all

the

> neocons out there are, but she doesn't let it show on her public
> face. She appears to be a smiling, cookie-baking, June Cleaver-

type

> of Republican wife. Nobody ever doubted that Hillary Rodham-

Clinton

> was an avid policy-making partner in the Clinton White House

(witness

> her current job as a Senator in New York State), but Laura Bush

has

> the opposite vibe going.
>
> And maybe, just maybe, that's all part of the cleverness of the
> current forces in power over here. Maybe she IS more involved

behind-

> the-scenes than any of us would ever suspect. Maybe, in the

evenings

> when she and Dubya are alone, she steers him in the direction she
> wants him to go. Maybe she's more of a motive force behind this
> administration's policies than Karl Rove, it that's at all

possible!

>
> But you'd never suspect it, watchin' her on TV. She plays her role
> perfectly. Remember all those anti-Hillary books that came out

during

> the last decade? Think we'll ever see any anti-Laura Bush books
> hittin' the shelves any time soon? Course not! She learned to keep

a

> low profile, from having seen Hillary become a target by keeping a
> high profile.
>
> Do I sound cynical, folks? Oh well...
>
> Patrick

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:

>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> That's the way I see it and that's why I love the name Livia too -

Tony Soprano's mother's role is a very controlling, manipulative,
greedy, nasty person and she's about the only personality type I
believe could stay married to a murderer, and raise more.

>
> "Livia" comes from the Hebrew "Olivia," meaning Peace. It's funny

that in the show that you refer to she is controlling, manipulative,
greedy and nasty. Doesn't sound like they did their homework!

>
> Helen

*** Helen, SOMEbody didn't do their homework...

The name "Livia" comes from "Livius, -a, -um": the name of a Roman
gens (CASSELL'S LATIN-ENGLISH DICTIONARY). A 'gens' is a Roman clan,
that is, a group of aristocratic families with the same name,
descended from a common ancestor on the male side (according to the
ENCARTA dictionary); for example, the clan "Iulius" (of which Caius
Iulius Caesar was a member) supposedly descended from the son of the
Trojan hero Aeneas, named both "Iulus" and "Ascanius". Aeneas was the
demi-god son of the mortal father Anchises and the Goddess
Aphrodite/Venus, and that's how the Romans "knew" that Caesar was
Divine (i.e. had a 'God's Blood' in his lineage), and -- although
murdered by Brutus, Cassius, et al., would become a God when he died,
as the poet Ovid describes at the end of his poem "Metamorphoses".
The Roman writer Livy was a member of the "Livius" clan. The name
probably derives from the Latin words "Liveo" and "Livor, -oris" --
both of which mean "blue"/"bluish" in color, and,
poetically, "envious, spiteful, LIVID". Strange that we connect the
color GREEN to the 'sin' of Envy, rather than BLUE. Then again, the
phrase "to become blue-in-the-face" probably stems from this Latin-
derived notion. Blue was probably a totem color for the Livius clan,
back in the day.

The word "oliva" in Latin does mean "olive" -- and metaphorically
means "peace", as when someone "extends the olive branch" (i.e. tries
to make peace with an enemy). But it's a Latin word, not a Hebrew
word. The Hebrew word for peace is "Shalom" -- as in 'Jerusalem',
from "iyr" + "shalom": City-of-Peace. Without a doubt, the most
incorrectly named place in the history of the planet! Also, the
name "Solomon" (written in Hebrew as ShLoMoH) derives from the word
for "peace".

Same goes for the name "Salome" (from the story in the New Testament
about the head of John the Baptist ending up on a platter). The POTA
connection? Zira leaves her baby (named "Milo") with Heloise, and
takes the primitive ape's female baby (named "Salome") with her and
Cornelius, knowing they'll all die when Hasslein finds 'em. Hardly
a 'peaceful' end for that doomed little chimp. Ah, but at least the
talking chimp baby survived... and wasn't his life worth more than
the life of the first chimpanzee ever to be born in a circus? I
wonder if Caesar ever had a hard time falling asleep, knowing that
his life would've been over before it really could begin, had not
another life been put in harm's way, in order to safeguard his life.
Zira did what she did, knowing that that little female chimp would
die. And that HER OWN child would survive. Zira, in her own way, was
a bit like Livia (from Roman History): just as Livia (probably)
killed off all sorts of people just so that HER son (Tiberius) could
become the Emperor of Rome, Zira sees to it that HER son
(Milo/Caesar) becomes the future "Emperor Ape"... by seeing to it
that a surrogate chimp-baby is killed when Hasslein finds and kills
them. And how does he find them? Zira herself leaves her "carpetbag"
in that oil derrick area, KNOWING that it would be found... leading
Hasslein to the derelict ship where she KNEW they'd be cornered and
killed.

Quite the schemer, that Zira. And RUTHLESS. She doesn't even let her
husband know what she's up to: when they're on the ship, Cornelius
goes to find a cleaner area after Zira hints for him to leave her and
the baby alone, because... "He wants feeding." (ESCAPE screenplay,
page 96, Scene 134)

Get that, everybody? HE wants feeding. HE! Not even Cornelius knows
that the baby chimp Zira's cuddling and saying "Ma-ma-ma-ma" to is
NOT his son "Milo", but is the month-old female chimp "Salome" that
Zira switched at the circus. If Cornelius was "in" on the Plan, then
Zira would've referred to the chimp-baby as a "SHE".

Armando must've known, though, that Zira switched babies. When the
cops show up to check out his circus, he goes out of his way to show
them Heloise and the baby chimp (which we later learn will have
inherited the ability to Speak). He tells them: "Heloise has been
with the circus for seven years ... and the baby's birth was
registered sixteen days ago. Look how he's growing!" (ESCAPE
screenplay, page 92, Scene 119)

Look how "HE" is growing! But when we first saw these circus apes,
Armando said (to Lewis Dixon): "Say hello to Heloise and your
goddaughter Salome." LEWIS' VOICE: "Hello, Salome." (ESCAPE
screenplay, page 82, Scene 105)

GodDAUGHTER. A female. Armando refers to 'her' as a MALE ape when the
cops check out his circus, though... so he KNOWS Zira switched 'em.

But Zira refers to Salome as a "HE" when she's alone with her husband
in the derelict ship. "He wants feeding." Why doesn't she trust
Cornelius with the truth? Cornelius knows she gave birth to a boy: in
Scene 108 (page 84), Cornelius asks "What are we going to call...?"
and Lewis (smiling) says, "Him." And Zira names the baby, "Milo."
Cornelius knows, then, that it's a MALE baby born to his wife... so
why doesn't she clue him in later, at the ship, that she's switched
babies, and say that "SHE wants feeding" rather than "HE wants
feeding"?

Perhaps she doesn't think Cornelius has the backbone to go through
with her plan, which involves the purposeful death-by-martyrdom of
some other ape mother's child in place of their talking baby. Zira,
in PLANET, had to get uppity with her milquetoast husband when she
said, "Cornelius, SHOW SOME STRENGTH!" Then again, Cornelius is
feeling guilty over having inadvertently killed the young orderly
earlier. In the novelization, at the end of Chapter 19, Pournelle has
this paragraph:

They will demand my child's life as the price of that boy's blood, he
thought. I do not know how I know this, but I do know it. My child's
life for that boy. (page 134)

Maybe Zira thinks that Cornelius wouldn't be able to handle the
truth, any more than he could handle the death of yet another
innocent life because of them. So... best keep him ignorant. Let him
think that when Hasslein kills the baby it's really their talking
baby that's dying. Cornelius dies not knowing that his son would live.

But ZIRA, when she dies, knows what she knows. She kept even her
husband in the dark. Oh, maybe he suspected something... but he never
confronts her about it. He never raises an eyebrow and
says, "Uh, 'he' wants feeding, Zira? Don't you mean 'she' wants
feeding?"

What do you all think? Does Cornelius know Zira switched babies? Or
is he ignorant of that, as I think he is? Did he truly try to keep
himself, Zira, and "their" baby alive... only to have Zira
manipulating events around them all, orchestrating it so that SHE
would die, CORNELIUS would die, and the SWITCHED BABY would die? All
to pull the wool over the eyes of Hasslein and the others who feared
an Ape-dominated future?

Cornelius asked Lewis for a gun, to use for SUICIDE, just in case
they were facing death -- better to die by your own hand than to be
slaughtered by somebody else, I suppose. Zira pleads, "Please...?" in
support of his request for the gun.

Why would she go along with that, though? Well, she knows they're
gonna wind up dead -- she'll leave her suitcase behind, like a trail
of breadcrumbs leading Hasslein to their hiding place. I think that
Zira, if it came down to it, would HERSELF take that gun and shoot
the baby chimp dead, just so that the human-dominated world would
think she'd gone nuts with despair and killed "her own" baby, not
knowing it was ANOTHER baby. A changeling. Zira would do ANYTHING to
see her plan through to the end.

NOT just because she wants her son to be safe with Armando. No...

She wants her son to grow up to OVERTHROW the humans. She WANTS there
to be an Ape-dominated future. Back in the Future, when Zaius and
Ursus ran everything, chimpanzees were too few, and couldn't be in
control of things...

But, with her SON still surviving, he'd have the chance to change
things, and become the "Emperor Ape" who rules over not only the
Humans they overthrow, but also over the other apes, the Orangutans
and Gorillas. It's her revenge on the Powers-that-Be/Were/Will-Be in
3955, Zaius and Ursus.

And she's willing to kill an innocent baby to achieve this end.

No wonder Kim loved the role! That HAD to be a role to KILL for in
Hollywood, even WITH all that make-up to endure! Say, T, you knew Kim
pretty well... do you think she would've literally killed for the
part? I ask this, of course, in jest...

Patrick

Well, at the bottom right hand of the last page of the "WITHIN" PDF,
I see both "The End" and "To be continued"...

So, which is it? And, why would the Mutants trigger the Bomb prior to
Ursus' invasion of the Zone? It's supposed to be "cause"
THEN "effect", not the other way 'round! The invasion led to Mendez
preparing to trigger the Bomb. So, what's up with this "WITHIN"
strip's abrupt ending. Or IS it an ending?

"To be continued..." ?

Patrick

In "ESCAPE FROM TOMORROW", Urko jails Galen for the "murder" of his
lieutenant, as well as for having in his possession that old BOOK
that Farrow had found in his "secret cave".

Zaius, after flipping through it for a brief MOMENT (!) says, "Do you
realize that mere possession of such a book is punishable by Death?"

Unless you're Zaius, of course.

Zaius leaves that cell, saying "I'm sorry, Galen... I can do nothing
for you."

And he tells Virdon and Burke, "... as I must have poor Galen killed."

One question: What will Zaius say -- if anything -- to Yalu & Anne,
Galen's parents? Do they know that Galen has been scampering off to
the jail, to talk with the two captured humans? Supposing that Zaius
had managed to have the astronauts recaptured -- and, of course,
killed forthwith -- HOW would Zaius have had Galen killed?

He couldn't afford to let Galen have a trial-by-jury, since Galen
would undoubtedly testify in his own defense, and mention that he's
slated to be killed ("executed") because of a Book, etc.

Zaius can't have public knowledge of that Book, though. He can't
allow it into evidence at any trial. So, Galen can't HAVE a trial.
He'll have to be killed in an illegitimate fashion. Murder, however
you look at it. For reasons of "national security".

Zaius and Urko will know that Galen had been killed -- and I doubt
that they'd allow any other ape know about the killing of Galen, just
to be safe. The fewer people who know about it, the better. That
would give any other ape "plausible deniability".

And what would they do about Yalu and his wife Anne? What would they
say to them about their "missing" son, Galen? What kind of lies would
Zaius have to cook up to cover their tracks?

They'd have to pretend that Galen was either dead from ACCIDENTAL
causes ("He broke his neck after a horse threw him" or something like
that), or was MISSING, whereabouts unknown. Galen had just been hired
by Zaius to be his aide-de-camp: Galen accompanied Urko to Chalo,
investing him with Zaius' own authority, which Galen exercised when
he ordered the gorilla, "Urko... No." to prevent him from shooting
the humans who had dared to talk back to him.

Zaius, too, would have to know just what Yalu and Anne knew of
Galen's goings-on in the past few days. Had Galen talked with them
about the two strange humans? About the Book? Did Galen's PARENTS
know of the Book? Had THEY seen it, too? If so, does that mean that
Zaius would have to have THEM killed, too?

Oh, what a deadly web Zaius & Urko would've had to weave, when first
they practised to deceive...

Patrick

Hmmm.... Oh dear, Patrick.

Although I am no expert, the name "Livia" is actually short
for "Olivia" -- at least in the name books that I have reference
to. (7 kids, lots of name searching!) I think it's a little
stretch to go for the "blue" meaning, but if someone were to choose
to name their child for that reason, that would be okay with me. We
all have our quirks.

Ouch! I have failed, yet again? Puh-leeze excuse me for not
remembering my Hebrew/Roman/Greek/American Indian/Japanese roots.
To be honest, my memory is usually pretty good when it comes to this
subject!

Humbly (?) yours,

--Helen
Female
Greek
(Light/Torch)





--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "patrickmichaeltilton"
<patrickmichaeltilton@y...> wrote:

>

The word "oliva" in Latin does mean "olive" -- and metaphorically
means "peace", as when someone "extends the olive branch" (i.e. tries
to make peace with an enemy). But it's a Latin word, not a Hebrew
word. The Hebrew word for peace is "Shalom" -- as in 'Jerusalem',
from "iyr" + "shalom": City-of-Peace. Without a doubt, the most
incorrectly named place in the history of the planet! Also, the
name "Solomon" (written in Hebrew as ShLoMoH) derives from the word
for "peace".

>
> Patrick

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Hello,

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I liked the "Foster Finish" being used again. It's a bit abrupt, but
most lives do end rather abruptly. "C'est la mort!"

I eagerly await the sudden and unexpected deaths of Virdon and Burke in
"Going Home," but I hope you'll keep Galen alive to exact revenge on
Zaius and Urko. Maybe show the aged Galen finishing up the
introductions to the series, then bursting into flames or something.

Anthony

On Feb 1, 2005, at 2:35 PM, Michael Whitty wrote:

> I can't believe nobody has commented on the finale!
>
> I assume there is a general air of displeasure?
>
> Michael
>
> You can access this file at the URL:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/
> Within%20the%20Planet%20of%20the%20Apes/Within6pg.pdf

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-----Original Message-----
From: Neil T Foster [nfoster@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 9:21 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Monument: the roughs

There seems to have been a bit of confusion from certain parties about the story and use of artwork for 'Going Home'

 

As most people know by now we were originally going to do a comic based on a story by Dave Ballard called 'Monument'. Before pulling out of the comic team Dave gave us permission to use a couple of his scripts and this was one of them.

I put in an awful lot of time finding reference pictures for locations and had got as far as doing the roughs for the pages. It was then agreed that the story was not really workable as a comic and we decided to take it in a completely different direction and after all the hard work I had done plotting out these pages it was decided to salvage what we could.

 

I have just uploaded the first 6 rough pages to a file in the Files section called: Monument roughs.

 

You can check out Dave's story on the POTA group:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/files/FanFiction/monument%20revised

And see what it could have looked like. You might also like to compare the first 3 finished pages of 'Going Home' to see how the panels have diverged from the panel descriptions for Monument.

 

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: Whitty, Michael [Michael.Whitty@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 9:37 AM
To: 'PotaDG@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [PotaDG] Monument: the roughs

What we decided to do instead is a story I have been throwing around.

 

However we needed to somehow involve San Fran.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Whitty, Michael [Michael.Whitty@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 9:39 AM
To: 'PotaDG@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Monument: the roughs

I think you would all agree that Neil's renderings of SF are too good to be lost in the "trash pile"!

-----Original Message-----
From: Whitty, Michael [Michael.Whitty@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 9:37 AM
To: 'PotaDG@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [PotaDG] Monument: the roughs

What we decided to do instead is a story I have been throwing around.

 

However we needed to somehow involve San Fran.

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Gosh - I'm re-writing the script YET AGAIN!!!!

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony B. McElveen [abmac@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 9:19 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Within the Planet of the Apes



I liked the "Foster Finish" being used again. It's a bit abrupt, but
most lives do end rather abruptly. "C'est la mort!"

I eagerly await the sudden and unexpected deaths of Virdon and Burke in
"Going Home," but I hope you'll keep Galen alive to exact revenge on
Zaius and Urko. Maybe show the aged Galen finishing up the
introductions to the series, then bursting into flames or something.

Anthony

On Feb 1, 2005, at 2:35 PM, Michael Whitty wrote:

> I can’t believe nobody has commented on the finale!
>
> I assume there is a general air of displeasure?
>
> Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> Did you ever think Dave Ballard would react bitterly and feel we

had robbed his story if you went ahead with the SF setting?

-- I would certainly hope not! Like I said, I put in a lot of hours
of research etc. on his story and these locations and rough pencils
had to be used if we were to get a comic 'out there' for all the
people who had pleaded for a TV show comic.

Like I said, the finished pages of 'Going Home' that we have
released so far can be compared to the roughs and the original panel
descriptions for Monument and it should be quite clear to anybody
that significant changes were made.

Neil

I have just seen an interesting news story on Sky news about two
brothers in England who have been making there own versions of Star
Wars and Indiana Jones movies from their own home. Apparently they
are posted on the net somewhere and from the clips shown on the news
segment they looked very professional.

This was all done with relatively 'cheap' technology, and they said
it is being done by more and more people these days because the
technology is now affordable and easy too use.

So when are we all going to make our own POTA home made movie? The
technology exists for it to be done what else would we need. A story
of course, make-ups, costumes, actors?

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: Neil [nfoster@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 10:28 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Monument: the roughs

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> Did you ever think Dave Ballard would react bitterly and feel we
had robbed his story if you went ahead with the SF setting?

-- I would certainly hope not! Like I said, I put in a lot of hours
of research etc. on his story and these locations and rough pencils
had to be used if we were to get a comic 'out there' for all the
people who had pleaded for a TV show comic.

Like I said, the finished pages of 'Going Home' that we have
released so far can be compared to the roughs and the original panel
descriptions for Monument and it should be quite clear to anybody
that significant changes were made.

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: Neil [nfoster@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 10:28 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Monument: the roughs

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> Did you ever think Dave Ballard would react bitterly and feel we
had robbed his story if you went ahead with the SF setting?

-- I would certainly hope not! Like I said, I put in a lot of hours
of research etc. on his story and these locations and rough pencils
had to be used if we were to get a comic 'out there' for all the
people who had pleaded for a TV show comic.

Like I said, the finished pages of 'Going Home' that we have
released so far can be compared to the roughs and the original panel
descriptions for Monument and it should be quite clear to anybody
that significant changes were made.

Neil

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> Well I don't think he's happy! I tried to email him and apparently

I have been placed on his "junk mail" list!

-- That is sad to hear.

> When is the last time YOU heard from Dave?

-- Not for awhile, I haven't heard from him since he got his
promotion and advised us he would be too busy to work on the comic
and Scrolls etc. any more.

> Maybe he IS taking this the wrong way - that would be TRAGIC!

-- It certainly would and I'm sure there is no problem. If there was
he would have surely let us know.

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: Neil [nfoster@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 10:58 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Monument: the roughs

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> Well I don't think he's happy! I tried to email him and apparently
I have been placed on his "junk mail" list!

-- That is sad to hear.

> When is the last time YOU heard from Dave?

-- Not for awhile, I haven't heard from him since he got his
promotion and advised us he would be too busy to work on the comic
and Scrolls etc. any more.
 
> Maybe he IS taking this the wrong way - that would be TRAGIC!

-- It certainly would and I'm sure there is no problem. If there was
he would have surely let us know.

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: Whitty, Michael [Michael.Whitty@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 11:03 AM
To: 'PotaDG@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Monument: the roughs

But Dave still has an enormous workload with Scrolls!

 

Maybe the "POTA Terrorist" is back playing tricks again!

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil [nfoster@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 10:58 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Monument: the roughs

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> Well I don't think he's happy! I tried to email him and apparently
I have been placed on his "junk mail" list!

-- That is sad to hear.

> When is the last time YOU heard from Dave?

-- Not for awhile, I haven't heard from him since he got his
promotion and advised us he would be too busy to work on the comic
and Scrolls etc. any more.
 
> Maybe he IS taking this the wrong way - that would be TRAGIC!

-- It certainly would and I'm sure there is no problem. If there was
he would have surely let us know.

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: Whitty, Michael [Michael.Whitty@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 11:24 AM
To: 'PotaDG@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [PotaDG] The "POTA Terrorist"

Oops!  Lots of new members will miss the "HISTORY" of the POTA Terrorist!

 

I'd better explain!

 

Years ago I received an email at home which was SUPPOSEDLY from Rory.

 

It was ACTUALLY from somebody else (who we call the POTA TERRORIST) who had the capacity to send a post AND CHANGE THE IDENTITY OF THE SENDER!

 

In other words, using this technology, Neil could send Helen an email and Helen would read that the email was sent by ME!

 

The "POTA TERRORIST" pulled a few stunts.

 

Eventually, it was proven that the emails were sent from a computer owned by James Aquilla (who no runs our sister "POTA" Yahoo! Chat Group).

 

Of course, there is NO evidence that James sent the emails - just that SOMEBODY did and used HIS computer!  So do NOT jump to conclusions!

 

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Whitty, Michael [Michael.Whitty@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 11:03 AM
To: 'PotaDG@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Monument: the roughs

But Dave still has an enormous workload with Scrolls!

 

Maybe the "POTA Terrorist" is back playing tricks again!

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil [nfoster@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 10:58 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Monument: the roughs

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> Well I don't think he's happy! I tried to email him and apparently
I have been placed on his "junk mail" list!

-- That is sad to hear.

> When is the last time YOU heard from Dave?

-- Not for awhile, I haven't heard from him since he got his
promotion and advised us he would be too busy to work on the comic
and Scrolls etc. any more.
 
> Maybe he IS taking this the wrong way - that would be TRAGIC!

-- It certainly would and I'm sure there is no problem. If there was
he would have surely let us know.

Neil

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Chris Hight <snickertown@y...> wrote:

> These are so incredible I'm hoping to find a use for them in a

future project.

--That's good to hear Chris. I really like this artwork and I
certainly hope you can come up with something that uses it.

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: Neil [nfoster@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 11:42 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Chris Hight <snickertown@y...> wrote:
> These are so incredible I'm hoping to find a use for them in a
future project.

--That's good to hear Chris. I really like this artwork and I
certainly hope you can come up with something that uses it.

Neil

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> Oops! Lots of new members will miss the "HISTORY" of the POTA

Terrorist!

--Speaking of new members, it's time to welcome you all and point
out a few things, so to all our recently joined new members -
welcome!

Please feel free to jump in and contribute if a subject takes your
fancy, or start one up yourself!

MAKE SURE YOU GO TO THE HOMEPAGE AND READ THE NEW PLANET OF THE APES
TV SHOW COMIC BOOK - GOING HOME!!!

Go to the homepage, scroll down to around the middle of the page and
click on the link underneath the logo....this will take you to the
PDF file of the first 3 pages.

Another new ongoing comic strip called WITHIN THE PLANET OF THE APES
can be found in the files section of the group or you can just click
on the handy links on the Home Page to view the latest and previous
chapters!

Don't forget we also have 3 other groups 'attached' to the main one.

First up there is the DG Archives group:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDiscussionGrouparchives/
This group was created to store old posts from the group which have
been deleted from the main site. We have to do this periodically to
free up space as Yahoo does not allot much space to the groups
anymore.
As this group is so active we tend to fill up very quickly and
instead of losing old posts forever we like to keep a copy of them
all. They can be found in the Files section listed by month and year.


There is also the DG Fan Fiction group where members can place, in
the group's Files section, their Fan Fiction stories, poems etc. to
be enjoyed by all:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDiscussionGroupfanfiction/


Finally there's the Photos group:
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDiscussionGroupphotos/
Where photos and files are occasionally moved to save space on the
main DG group

All the sites can be easily accessed via the links on each one's
Home Page.

And don't forget to check out the DG group's vast Photos section and
all that great stuff in the Files section.
While you're here why not participate in a Poll or check out all
those wonderful links and generally have a fun filled family
experience!

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: Neil [nfoster@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 11:47 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Welcome time!

Another new ongoing comic strip called WITHIN THE PLANET OF THE APES
can be found in the files section of the group or you can just click
on the handy links on the Home Page to view the latest and previous
chapters!

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> THE WITHIN "FINALE" WAS A GAG!
> THE ACTUAL NEXT INSTALMENT IS COMING SOME TIME SOON......!!!!!

-- Yep, sorry about that folks, please accept my apologies any one
who was upset about it.
I promise you won't be disappointed with the next few strips and we
have NO plans to end the strip anytime soon, (Do we????)

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> THE WITHIN "FINALE" WAS A GAG!

--Plus any of you who have copies of the Beware the Beast 'ash can'
comics may have noticed that the 'bomb' panel is actually a slightly
re-worked version of a panel from one of the extra pages that was
included.

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: Neil [nfoster@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 12:03 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: IMPORTANT!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> THE WITHIN "FINALE" WAS A GAG!

--Plus any of you who have copies of the Beware the Beast 'ash can'
comics may have noticed that the 'bomb' panel is actually a slightly
re-worked version of a panel from one of the extra pages that was
included.

Neil

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.html The next chapter could be about apes who left earth in spaceships and colonized elsewhere. Elaine<.html

O.K. guys you got us and some of us were pretty upset. I mean, its
been years since there has been good new Planet of the Apes comics
and (risking kissing Neil's ass yet again) never has the artwork
truly looked like it was from an Apes film. There has been some great
artist who have worked on the Marvel comics but aside from the covers
the art "felt" different. And, so Michael doesn't feel left out, up
until this tragic "gag" ending, the story has left me wanting to see
what happens next. Which is the whole idea behind good comic writing.
I know this takes up a great deal of time from both of you and if you
need to be reminded every now and again how much your work is
appreciated (much like a woman) I don't mind. Just please don't give
us this great gift and then take it away. I also hope you don't
spread yourself out between various projects till you burn out and
leave us hanging. I would hate to have to kill you both. Your
addicted Apes fiend. -- The good Dr. Zaius Davis

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In a message dated 2/2/2005 5:49:16 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

If he had any sense he'd join a TREKKIE group where they could all pool $1 each and paye him $50 000 to do a comic (because there are so MANY of them!).

 

How many of us are there?

If he does more than 10 pages

I'd buy that for a dollar, + S & H!

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: Neil [nfoster@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 11:55 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: IMPORTANT!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> THE WITHIN "FINALE" WAS A GAG!
> THE ACTUAL NEXT INSTALMENT IS COMING SOME TIME SOON......!!!!!

-- Yep, sorry about that folks, please accept my apologies any one
who was upset about it.
I promise you won't be disappointed with the next few strips and we
have NO plans to end the strip anytime soon, (Do we????)

Neil

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Here something on homemade Star Wars.

 

 

BBC - collective - webslinky #17: star wars

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-----Original Message-----
From: taebokitti@... [taebokitti@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 1:53 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: IMPORTANT!

Yes, Dr Zauis. As a woman I need to be constantly validated. So read my fanfic and start singing my praises. Elaine

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Yes. Send a link and I'd love to read your stories. I think I read
one of yours about Urko finding a lost little dog. I think Urko
should have kicked the dog and then made a human eat it for his
amusement... but your story was nice too. hehehe. At least it didn't
end in the middle with something stupid like, I dunno a bomb
explosion out of nowhere!

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In a message dated 2/2/2005 6:11:48 P.M. Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

So when are we all going to make our own POTA home made movie?

Someone already was, in New Jersey, right.

Pretty good SFX too.  Very professional looking.

I was impressed.  I can get free 16mm film and

processing, as long as it's for school.  I've always

wanted to buy an Arriflex camera.  Panaflex would

be better but they don't sell, only rent. You can get

35mm for about 5 grand, 16 for about half that.  And

get some editing gear and software.  It'd be nice to

have Apemania do the makeups and stuff.  I think it'd be

even better than the Ape sequence than Jay & Silent Bob.

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: John [DrZaiusDavis@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 2:18 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: IMPORTANT!

Yes. Send a link and I'd love to read your stories. I think I read
one of yours about Urko finding a lost little dog. I think Urko
should have kicked the dog and then made a human eat it for his
amusement... but your story was nice too. hehehe. At least it didn't
end in the middle with something stupid like, I dunno a bomb
explosion out of nowhere!

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If you use my dog eating idea I promise not to whine about you
stealing it later. You now have that in writing. Neil, you getting
this?

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-----Original Message-----
From: John [DrZaiusDavis@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 2:27 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: IMPORTANT!

If you use my dog eating idea I promise not to whine about you
stealing it later. You now have that in writing. Neil, you getting
this?

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Remember, its APE makes HUMAN eat DOG for APES amusement. I think
that would play off better. Ape eats dog. Now that's just gross and
cruel for no good reason.

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-----Original Message-----
From: taebokitti@... [taebokitti@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 2:36 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: IMPORTANT!

My stories are on Fanfiction.net,Kass' site(as you already know) and I have chapter one on the pota group that explores life after Battle pota. If Urko had found my dachshund instead of  the Taco Bell dog , he would have been in big trouble. never underestimate little dogs.

Elaine

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We have a Shit-sue (little ankle biter) named Leroy, ourselves. Not
good eating. Nothing to him under all that hair. He backed down a
German Sheppard who wandered into our yard about a month ago. I'd
like to see how he would have handled a talking Ape or a hungry human
animal. The story idea is still up for grabs if anybody wants to jump
at it. Hehehe

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-----Original Message-----
From: John [DrZaiusDavis@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 2:49 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: IMPORTANT!

We have a Shit-sue (little ankle biter) named Leroy, ourselves. Not
good eating. Nothing to him under all that hair. He backed down a
German Sheppard who wandered into our yard about a month ago. I'd
like to see how he would have handled a talking Ape or a hungry human
animal. The story idea is still up for grabs if anybody wants to jump
at it. Hehehe

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Koko is the closest thing to talking apes we have right now... but
she ain't no Urko! Now eat that taco bell dog and act like ya like it
before we cut out your brain so you stop thinking for yourself.

We haven't had this in the UK yet, but I'm amazed and pleased that he
got an Emmy nomination this year -- or was it the Golden Globes.

Shatner would make a PERFECT Urko in a new Apes tv series, don't you
think?

Mark T-B.


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> Has anybody seen William Shatner in Boston Legal (or in The

Practice)?

>
> Michaek
>

Bring back a digital James Franciscus, if you ask me!

Mark T-B.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
>
> I have just seen an interesting news story on Sky news about two
> brothers in England who have been making there own versions of Star
> Wars and Indiana Jones movies from their own home. Apparently they
> are posted on the net somewhere and from the clips shown on the
news
> segment they looked very professional.
>
> This was all done with relatively 'cheap' technology, and they said
> it is being done by more and more people these days because the
> technology is now affordable and easy too use.
>
> So when are we all going to make our own POTA home made movie? The
> technology exists for it to be done what else would we need. A
story
> of course, make-ups, costumes, actors?
>
> Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , LordTZer0@A... wrote:

> Someone already was, in New Jersey, right. Pretty good SFX too.

Very professional looking. I was impressed.

-- That would probably be the one being done by Matthew Sotis?

These guys I saw on the news were just using camcorders and
computers to make these movies and acting in them themselves. Some
of their costumes looked really well done.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "John" <DrZaiusDavis@a...> wrote:

> and (risking kissing Neil's ass yet again)

-- There's no need for that, really. Just always expect me to do
something silly now and again!! ;-)

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "sparkytb2005" <sparkytb@h...> wrote:

> Shatner would make a PERFECT Urko in a new Apes tv series, don't

you think?

-- Maybe not Urko but I reckon Shatner certainly would make a great
gorilla.

Neil

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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
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Hello,

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Thx for the explanation of the ending. I too was
confused by it. The story is fantastic, not to mention
the artwork is incredible.

CH



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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Chris Hight <snickertown@y...> wrote:

> Thx for the explanation of the ending. I too was confused by it.

The story is fantastic, not to mention the artwork is incredible.

-- Thanks for the kind words Chris. The real next chapter is now
uploaded to the group thanks to Greg Plonowski who has been
converting these to PDF files. Hope everyone enjoys this a bit more
than our attempt at a bit of humour!

Cheers,
Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:

> This is great! Even better (and funnier) than I had pictured it.

-- Thanks Greg, doing these are good therapy for me, I cheer myself
up when I draw these little adventures!

Neil

Neil,

We have to find you somekind of illustrating gig.
There is a need for people like you.

BTW- I'm still working on Ursus. The box should be
done within the next month or two.

CH




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