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Group: potadg Message: 25260 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 2/3/2005
Subject: Re: Within Comic Strip
Group: potadg Message: 25261 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/3/2005
Subject: Re: The further adventures of Bounty the Hunter
Group: potadg Message: 25262 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/3/2005
Subject: Re: Within Comic Strip
Group: potadg Message: 25263 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/3/2005
Subject: Re: IMPORTANT!
Group: potadg Message: 25264 From: Neil Date: 2/3/2005
Subject: Re: Within Comic Strip
Group: potadg Message: 25265 From: Neil Date: 2/3/2005
Subject: Re: Within Comic Strip
Group: potadg Message: 25266 From: Neil Date: 2/3/2005
Subject: Chris Hight figure boxes
Group: potadg Message: 25267 From: Chris Hight Date: 2/3/2005
Subject: Re: Within Comic Strip
Group: potadg Message: 25268 From: Neil Date: 2/3/2005
Subject: Re: Within Comic Strip
Group: potadg Message: 25269 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: Within Comic Strip
Group: potadg Message: 25270 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Figures Box
Group: potadg Message: 25271 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: Chris Hight figure boxes
Group: potadg Message: 25272 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: APES COLLECTIBLES WANTED
Group: potadg Message: 25273 From: Chris Hight Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: Figures Box
Group: potadg Message: 25274 From: Chris Hight Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: Julius Figures
Group: potadg Message: 25275 From: patrickmichaeltilton Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: Denny Crane!
Group: potadg Message: 25276 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: Denny Crane!
Group: potadg Message: 25277 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: My Strummer Vacation
Group: potadg Message: 25278 From: patrickmichaeltilton Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: Livia and Zira
Group: potadg Message: 25279 From: patrickmichaeltilton Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: Denny Crane!
Group: potadg Message: 25280 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: Kim Hunter's Autobiographical Cookbook
Group: potadg Message: 25281 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: One for the girls.....
Group: potadg Message: 25282 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: Denny Crane!
Group: potadg Message: 25283 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: Denny Crane!
Group: potadg Message: 25284 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 25285 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: Denny Crane!
Group: potadg Message: 25286 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: Figures Box
Group: potadg Message: 25287 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: Denny Crane!
Group: potadg Message: 25288 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: IMPORTANT!
Group: potadg Message: 25289 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Marvel UK issue 16 now online
Group: potadg Message: 25290 From: Neil Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 25291 From: Neil Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: IMPORTANT!
Group: potadg Message: 25292 From: Andrew Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Will there be a major POTA 40th Anniversary Convention during 2008?
Group: potadg Message: 25293 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: Livia and Zira
Group: potadg Message: 25294 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: One for the girls.....
Group: potadg Message: 25295 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Wow
Group: potadg Message: 25296 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: Walliam Shitner
Group: potadg Message: 25297 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: IMPORTANT!
Group: potadg Message: 25298 From: Neil Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: Will there be a major POTA 40th Anniversary Convention during 2
Group: potadg Message: 25299 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: Denny Crane!
Group: potadg Message: 25300 From: Alan Maxwell Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: A Musical Trip
Group: potadg Message: 25301 From: Alan Maxwell Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: Within the Planet of the Apes(actually, something completely di
Group: potadg Message: 25302 From: Andrew Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: Will there be a major POTA 40th Anniversary Convention during 2
Group: potadg Message: 25303 From: patrickmichaeltilton Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: Denny Crane!
Group: potadg Message: 25304 From: patrickmichaeltilton Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: Not the Borg, but something better...
Group: potadg Message: 25305 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: A Musical Trip
Group: potadg Message: 25306 From: kuiama1973@aol.com Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: One for the girls.....
Group: potadg Message: 25307 From: patrickmichaeltilton Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: Zira, Dawn, etc... and a Cipher
Group: potadg Message: 25308 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: Zira, Dawn, etc... and a Cipher
Group: potadg Message: 25309 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: Zira, Dawn, etc... and a Cipher
Group: potadg Message: 25310 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: Zira, Dawn, etc... and a Cipher
Group: potadg Message: 25311 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: A Musical Trip
Group: potadg Message: 25312 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: Denny Crane!
Group: potadg Message: 25313 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: Within the Planet of the Apes(actually, something completely di
Group: potadg Message: 25314 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Trek NOT OT!
Group: potadg Message: 25315 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: Not the Borg, but something better...
Group: potadg Message: 25316 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: Zira, Dawn, etc... and a Cipher
Group: potadg Message: 25317 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: Zira, Dawn, etc... and a Cipher
Group: potadg Message: 25318 From: ape_mom Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: One for the girls.....
Group: potadg Message: 25319 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: Will there be a major POTA 40th Anniversary Convention durin...
Group: potadg Message: 25320 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: Denny Crane!
Group: potadg Message: 25321 From: Neil Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: Zira, Dawn, etc... and a Cipher
Group: potadg Message: 25322 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: The German comics reprints
Group: potadg Message: 25323 From: Neil Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: Will there be a major POTA 40th Anniversary Convention durin...
Group: potadg Message: 25324 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: Zira, Dawn, etc... and a Cipher
Group: potadg Message: 25325 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: Will there be a major POTA 40th Anniversary Convention durin...
Group: potadg Message: 25326 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/6/2005
Subject: Re: Will there be a major POTA 40th Anniversary Convention durin...
Group: potadg Message: 25327 From: Neil Date: 2/6/2005
Subject: Super Special Announcement!!!
Group: potadg Message: 25328 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/6/2005
Subject: Re: Super Special Announcement!!!
Group: potadg Message: 25329 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/6/2005
Subject: Re: Super Special Announcement!!!
Group: potadg Message: 25330 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/6/2005
Subject: Re: Zira, Dawn, etc... and a Cipher
Group: potadg Message: 25331 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/6/2005
Subject: Re: Zira, Dawn, etc... and a Cipher
Group: potadg Message: 25332 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/6/2005
Subject: Re: Zira, Dawn, etc... and a Cipher
Group: potadg Message: 25333 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/6/2005
Subject: Re: Zira, Dawn, etc... and a Cipher
Group: potadg Message: 25334 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/6/2005
Subject: Re: A Musical Trip
Group: potadg Message: 25335 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 2/6/2005
Subject: Re: Super Special Announcement!!!
Group: potadg Message: 25336 From: John Date: 2/6/2005
Subject: Re: Kim Hunter's Autobiographical Cookbook
Group: potadg Message: 25337 From: John Date: 2/6/2005
Subject: Re: Zira, Dawn, etc... and a Cipher
Group: potadg Message: 25338 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/6/2005
Subject: Re: Super Special Announcement!!!
Group: potadg Message: 25339 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/6/2005
Subject: Mardi Gras (OT)
Group: potadg Message: 25340 From: John Date: 2/6/2005
Subject: Re: Super Special Announcement!!!
Group: potadg Message: 25341 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 2/6/2005
Subject: Talking TV Show.
Group: potadg Message: 25342 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 2/6/2005
Subject: Re: Super Special Announcement!!!
Group: potadg Message: 25343 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 2/6/2005
Subject: Mardi Gras (OT)
Group: potadg Message: 25344 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 2/6/2005
Subject: Re: Zira, Dawn, etc... and a Cipher
Group: potadg Message: 25345 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 2/6/2005
Subject: Re: Zira, Dawn, etc... and a Cipher
Group: potadg Message: 25346 From: Neil Date: 2/6/2005
Subject: Re: Super Special Announcement!!!
Group: potadg Message: 25347 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 2/6/2005
Subject: Super Special Announcement!!!
Group: potadg Message: 25348 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 2/6/2005
Subject: Re: Super Special Announcement!!!
Group: potadg Message: 25349 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 2/6/2005
Subject: Re: Super Special Announcement!!!
Group: potadg Message: 25350 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 2/6/2005
Subject: Re: Zira, Dawn, etc... and a Cipher
Group: potadg Message: 25351 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 2/6/2005
Subject: Re: Super Special Announcement!!!
Group: potadg Message: 25352 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 2/6/2005
Subject: Re: Super Special Announcement!!!
Group: potadg Message: 25353 From: Neil Date: 2/6/2005
Subject: Re: Super Special Announcement!!!
Group: potadg Message: 25354 From: John Date: 2/6/2005
Subject: Re: Mardi Gras (OT)
Group: potadg Message: 25355 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 2/6/2005
Subject: Re: Mardi Gras (OT)
Group: potadg Message: 25356 From: John Date: 2/6/2005
Subject: Re: Mardi Gras (OT)
Group: potadg Message: 25357 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 2/6/2005
Subject: Re: Mardi Gras (OT)
Group: potadg Message: 25358 From: John Date: 2/6/2005
Subject: Re: Mardi Gras (OT)
Group: potadg Message: 25359 From: Neil Date: 2/6/2005
Subject: Re: Mardi Gras (OT)



Group: potadg Message: 25260 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 2/3/2005
Subject: Re: Within Comic Strip
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I finally read the end to Within and again I am alone on this one. I had no problem with the ending. Just shows the story from another perspective. Good job, guys. Elaine
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Group: potadg Message: 25261 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/3/2005
Subject: Re: The further adventures of Bounty the Hunter
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Oh cheer up grumpy!

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil [nfoster@...]
Sent:
Friday, 4 February 2005 1:05 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: The further adventures of Bounty the Hunter

 


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
> This is great! Even better (and funnier) than I had pictured it.

-- Thanks Greg, doing these are good therapy for me, I cheer myself
up when I draw these little adventures!

Neil


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Group: potadg Message: 25262 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/3/2005
Subject: Re: Within Comic Strip
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This is gonna be good!

Chris, Neil – have we mentioned the box to the group?

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Hight [snickertown@...]
Sent: Friday, 4 February 2005 3:27 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Within Comic Strip

 

Neil,

We have to find you somekind of illustrating gig.
There is a need for people like you.

BTW- I'm still working on Ursus. The box should be
done within the next month or two.

CH


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Group: potadg Message: 25263 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/3/2005
Subject: Re: IMPORTANT!
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Shhh !!!  I hear Cougar loading his SHOTGUN!  ;)

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: taebokitti@... [taebokitti@...]
Sent: Friday, 4 February 2005 4:18 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: IMPORTANT!

 

·         Okay, the human eats the dog, but this dog has enhanced DNA so the human becomes stronger than an ape and leads a revolt against the apes. Urko blew it when he made him eat the dog. Elaine


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Group: potadg Message: 25264 From: Neil Date: 2/3/2005
Subject: Re: Within Comic Strip
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Chris Hight <snickertown@y...> wrote:
> BTW- I'm still working on Ursus. The box should be done within the
next month or two.

-- Cool, I can't wait!! Well I can 'cos I'll have to ;-)

Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 25265 From: Neil Date: 2/3/2005
Subject: Re: Within Comic Strip
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , taebokitti@a... wrote:
> I finally read the end to Within and again I am alone on this one.
I had no problem with the ending. Just shows the story from another
perspective.

-- Elaine, if you mean the abrupt ending with the bomb, that was
just a jest and wasn't meant to be taken seriously. The version that
is in the files now is the correct version and it isn't finished,
there is plenty more to it and quiet a few (hopefully unexpected)
twists yet to come!

Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 25266 From: Neil Date: 2/3/2005
Subject: Chris Hight figure boxes
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> This is gonna be good! Chris, Neil - have we mentioned the box to
the group?

-- Not sure, I think we probably have but if any one doesn't know
Chris is the guy who makes those awesome custom 12 inch Apes
figures. I have a Gideon made by Chris and it is great and Chris has
some original artwork that I did for him that he is going to be
using on the boxes for the figures.

Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 25267 From: Chris Hight Date: 2/3/2005
Subject: Re: Within Comic Strip
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Good point. We never mentioned the box.

Neil did some incredible artwork for my custom POTA
figures. The box includes all of the characters that
I've made over the years. When I have a mock-up of the
box I'll post a picture.

Neil- I was toying with the idea of doing a Icarus
playset made in the Mego/Palitoy style. You are my
first stopping point when it comes to an artist.




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Group: potadg Message: 25268 From: Neil Date: 2/3/2005
Subject: Re: Within Comic Strip
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Chris Hight <snickertown@y...> wrote:
> Neil- I was toying with the idea of doing a Icarus playset made in
the Mego/Palitoy style. You are my first stopping point when it
comes to an artist.

-- Now this sounds exciting! I'll be here waiting with my paint
brushes!!

Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 25269 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: Within Comic Strip
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What are you WAITING for Neil!

If I had your talent I'd just get ON with it! ;)

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Chris Hight <snickertown@y...>
wrote:
> > Neil- I was toying with the idea of doing a Icarus playset made
in
> the Mego/Palitoy style. You are my first stopping point when it
> comes to an artist.
>
> -- Now this sounds exciting! I'll be here waiting with my paint
> brushes!!
>
> Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 25270 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Figures Box
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Chris,

Would you be OK with it if Neil uploads a picture it to the files or
do you wish to wait until it is a box?

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Chris Hight <snickertown@y...> wrote:
> Good point. We never mentioned the box.
>
> Neil did some incredible artwork for my custom POTA
> figures. The box includes all of the characters that
> I've made over the years. When I have a mock-up of the
> box I'll post a picture.
>
> Neil- I was toying with the idea of doing a Icarus
> playset made in the Mego/Palitoy style. You are my
> first stopping point when it comes to an artist.
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________
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Group: potadg Message: 25271 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: Chris Hight figure boxes
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I have a Julius figure, AND a Gideon.

As far as I am concerned, they are FAR superior to the SIDESHOW
figures.

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...>
wrote:
> > This is gonna be good! Chris, Neil - have we mentioned the box
to
> the group?
>
> -- Not sure, I think we probably have but if any one doesn't know
> Chris is the guy who makes those awesome custom 12 inch Apes
> figures. I have a Gideon made by Chris and it is great and Chris
has
> some original artwork that I did for him that he is going to be
> using on the boxes for the figures.
>
> Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 25272 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: APES COLLECTIBLES WANTED
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Hi all

 

A fellow collector is looking for the following:

British light switch plate.  Even a word or two (or even better a photo).

 

Cornelius plaster statue by Tuscany Studios, Chicago

Glider Plane by Durham Industries

Pillows by Commonwealth

Inflatable Swimming Pool

Club Bat and Ball with header card

Any original Return to the Planet of the Apes animation cells and or backgrounds

Stained Glass Craft Kit by Winner Promotions

Mattel Fanner 50 with holster MIB

 

Let me know if you can help.

 

Michael


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Group: potadg Message: 25273 From: Chris Hight Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: Figures Box
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I would prefer that we wait to upload Neil's picture
until we have the actual box mock-up. Let's have them
see the final product. It's going to blow people back
to 1974 when MEGO ruled the Earth.

Thx for asking.




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Group: potadg Message: 25274 From: Chris Hight Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: Julius Figures
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Mike,

You have to count yourself lucky. I don't even have a
Julius figure. My seamstress died before I could get
the outfit made.

CH

--- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:

>
> I have a Julius figure, AND a Gideon.
>
> As far as I am concerned, they are FAR superior to
> the SIDESHOW
> figures.
>
> Michael




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Group: potadg Message: 25275 From: patrickmichaeltilton Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: Denny Crane!
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> Has anybody seen William Shatner in Boston Legal (or in The
Practice)?
>
> Michael

*** Yeah, I've seen some of them (time permitting, which isn't often
enough). I think they're great ('they' being Shatner & Spader,
especially), and it's fantastic that Shatner gets to do a role like
this at this point in his career. The first time he exclaimed his
name -- "Denny Crane!" -- with a flourish, in one of the last
episodes of "THE PRACTISE", was one of the funniest damn moments on
TV of the last decade.

As a TREK fan (preferring "classic" TREK, 'TOS', over any of its
sequel series), I'm often amused at all the anti-Shatner gripes I've
heard over the years. It wasn't Roddenberry's supposed 'genius' that
got STAR TREK on the air back in '66, folks... it was SHATNER. Him,
and a better pilot episode, written by Sam Peeples. If it wasn't for
Shatner's 'leading-man' presence, NBC wouldn't have given 'em the nod
to make the show in the first place. Every hour of TREK that fans
have enjoyed over the years has happened because Shatner delivered.
He was the STAR of that show, just as Robert Conrad was the star
of "THE WILD WILD WEST" and Robert Vaughn was the star of "THE MAN
FROM UNCLE". I roll my eyes every time I hear some co-star grumble
against him, when they just don't get it: HE was the star, and THEY
were supporting castmembers. And how many supporting cast actors from
old TV shows ever got to be household names, with the ability to cash
in on that fame? Does the black chick who played Mannix's secretary
have any long-term income-generating ability from that gig?
Do "MANNIX" fans wait in long lines at conventions just to get her
autograph, the way trekkies line up to get autographs from Doohan,
Takei, Nichols, Koenig, et al.? As actors, they were lucky to get
acting work in Hollywood PERIOD! Most wanna-be actors work as
waitresses or busboys or pizza delivery dudes and try to get
auditions, and even if they DO get to audition for a role, it's them
against a thousand others vying for the same job. And that job might
be nothing more than a background supporting role ("Hailing
frequencies open, Captain..."), but HEY, it's a job! And, because
TREK was a show that garnered a HUUUUUGE following for a number of
reasons, those MINOR roles gave name recognition to actors who -- in
a less cultish show -- would NEVER be remembered, except by experts
on TV trivia.

Their names are known because NBC picked up the show. And NBC took a
chance on the show because, with Bill Shatner starring in it, they
saw it as a viable drama rather than a hokey kiddie adventure show,
like those old serials ("CAPTAIN VIDEO" etc).

Was Shatner an egotist? Sure, probably. Was he, at times, over-the-
top in his portrayal of Captain Kirk? Definitely. But that was his
genius: to play a starship captain in a sci-fi adventure show
required him to be... oh, let's call it "effusive". If he had played
it in more of a deadpan manner, the show would've been booooooring!
The scene in "THE ENEMY WITHIN" when Evil-Kirk grabs McCoy and
shouts "Give me the BRANDY!" had to be played over-the-top! Quite
frankly, I can't imagine Scott Bakula doing justice to the role of
Captain Kirk. He's a fine actor, but he doesn't have the 'presence'
of a commanding leading man -- at least, not at Shatner's level.
Patrick Stewart, in the inferior Next-Gen series, DID have a
commanding presence as a starship captain, but that's primarily due
to his Shakespearean stage acting abilities. And, geez, if not for
that, TNG wouldn't have lasted a single season, let alone seven!

But, hey, give me Shatner any day, over any and all others. There
ain't a comedian alive who, having done an over-the-top Shatner
impersonation, still wouldn't kill to have BEEN him, sittin' in that
Captain's chair on the bridge of the Enterprise.

Honestly, can you picture anybody else acting that 'fizzbin' scene
with the same panache that Shatner gave it? I can't imagine Jean-Luc
Picard doing justice to that role, no matter how talented an actor
Mr. Stewart is. But Shatner made it work, and I still bust a gut when
I watch that scene. It's got to be one of the top 10 funniest scenes
ever shown on TV, above and beyond anything done in any comedy
series.

"Denny Crane!" That's another one of the top 10, I think. And I can't
imagine any actor other than Shatner -- at this point in his career --
being able to make that line work.

PaTrek

OE---------- [that thing to the left is supposed to look like the
Enterprise zippin' along, the "O" being the saucer-section, and
the "E" being the secondary hull and the two nacelles, seen from
above, of course]
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Group: potadg Message: 25276 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: Denny Crane!
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  I heard that "Star Trek: Enterprise" has been cancelled. Last episode is in May. After that the fans will be Trekless. I didn't watch it but I know there are some fans around so I thought I'd mention it. It lasted 4 years, like the original.
  Kudos to William Shatner for his continued success but he looks kinda bloated to me these days. It's hard to watch him.  - - - Jeff
 
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Group: potadg Message: 25277 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: My Strummer Vacation
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  Speaking of this, I found out the "Spaceballs" revival will be an animated cartoon series like "Futurama". "Spaceballs" was a sci-fi parody movie of the '80's by Mel Brooks and he is working on a cartoon series for it. The original movie had a famed POTA parody and it's possible Brooks will revisit POTA in the cartoon. He seems to have a soft spot for it. I remember an interview where he talked about running into apes while filming "Young Frankenstein" on the Fox lot in '74 (they used the "Young F" castle in "The Legacy").  - - - Jeff
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Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: My Strummer Vacation

I found the 3 I know of.

 

There’s the one you mention, there’s another where they go to the movies and “Planet of the Clams” is playing.

 

Then there is the one where the go to hire a movie (VHS I THINK!!!) and “Planet of the Clams” is on the shelf.

 

I copied all these today – I’ll send them to you soon Neil as I’m sure they would make great home page pics.

 

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil [nfoster@...]
Sent: Tuesday, 1 February 2005 11:29 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: My Strummer Vacation

 


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> I am..

-- And are there any other Futurama POTA references? I only know of
the one where they are down in the sewers and the mutants' cathedral
from Beneath is down there.

Neil



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Group: potadg Message: 25278 From: patrickmichaeltilton Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: Livia and Zira
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It may be that some people nowadays name their daughters "Livia"
thinking of it as a shortened form of the name "Olivia" (the
way "Liz" is a shortened form of the name "Elizabeth") -- such a name
is called a 'hypocoristicon' in professional circles. But the truth
is, the name "Livia" is from Classical Roman times, and derives from
the name of the Roman clan. The mother of the Emperor Tiberius and
wife of the Emperor Augustus -- played magnificently by Sian Phillips
in the BBC production of "I, CLAUDIUS" -- was named Livia, due to
that Livius clan connection. I'd sooner trust "CASSELL'S LATIN
DICTIONARY" rather than any "name book" that insists otherwise.
Especially if they also think that "Olivia" is a HEBREW name. It
ain't! The names "Olivia" and "Oliver" both derive from the Latin
word "oliva", which means "olive" (as in olive oil, olive tree,
the 'olive branch' of peace, etc); the Hebrew word for olive is
ZaYiTh (the "Mount of Olives" near Jerusalem is called "HaR
HaZeYThiYM" in Hebrew: "HaR" means 'mountain'/'mount', "Ha-"
means 'the' and "-iYM" [pronounced "EEM"] is a plural ending; the
root "ZaYiTh" [pronounced ZAH-yith] undergoes a vowel change in the
plural form [pronounced HAR hah-zay-THEEM], but the 'triliteral root'
Z-Y-T stays the same.

Just in case you're wondering, when I transliterate from Hebrew-to-
English, I capitalize all Hebrew consonants, so that you can tell
that the word "ZaYiTh" has 3 letters in the original language: Z, Y,
and T (T being pronounced like the Th in "thermonuclear", not like
the Th in "there"). In Hebrew script, they only write the consonants
[like "ZYT" or "HR ZYTYM"]; the Medieval-era Masoretes concocted a
system of dots and dashes that they write either under, above, or
between the consonants, to indicate the vowel sound. Otherwise, we
wouldn't necessarily know that the three-letter word ZYT should be
pronounced ZAH-yith, rather than zih-YETH or something else.

Not that anyone else gives a rat's ass, but the word "olive" itself,
being derived from the Latin word "oliva" -- pronounced, in Classical
times, as "OH-lih-wah" [the "v" being pronounced always as a "W"-
sound, and NOT as a "vee" sound] -- goes back to a Greek
word, "elaiwa". The English word "oil" itself derives from this word.
The name "Livia", as pronounced by her husband Augustus or her son
Tiberius, would've sounded like "LIH-wee-ah". Similarly, when Caesar
said "Veni, vidi, vici" ["I came, I saw, I conquered"], he didn't
pronounce it with the "V" letters sounding like our modern "vee"; the
letter was pronounced like a "W" back then, and the "C" was always
pronounced like the letter "K" (and NOT like "S" or an "SH" sound):
he said, "WAY-nee WEE-dee WEE-kee". Sounds goofy NOW, I'll admit, but
that's how it would've sounded back then.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:
>
> Hmmm.... Oh dear, Patrick.
>
> Although I am no expert, the name "Livia" is actually short
> for "Olivia" -- at least in the name books that I have reference
> to. (7 kids, lots of name searching!) I think it's a little
> stretch to go for the "blue" meaning, but if someone were to choose
> to name their child for that reason, that would be okay with me.
We all have our quirks.

*** The Latin words "liveo", "livesco", "lividulus", "lividus",
and "livor" -- all having to do with the notion of the color BLUE --
predate the naming of that particular clan of Romans. They probably
started calling themselves "Livius" due to an affiliation with the
color blue, just as the German name "Von Braun" and the English
name "Brown" and the nordic name "Brunhilde" all derive from the
color BROWN. The names "RUSSELL" and "ROSAMUNDE" both ultimately
derive from the respective words for the color RED. So, it's not all
that much of a stretch to derive a name from something as striking as
a color. The author of "PLANET OF THE APES AS AMERICAN MYTH" is Eric
Greene -- and it's highly doubtful his last name derived from
anything other than the notion of the color GREEN!
>
> Ouch! I have failed, yet again? Puh-leeze excuse me for not
> remembering my Hebrew/Roman/Greek/American Indian/Japanese roots.
> To be honest, my memory is usually pretty good when it comes to
this subject!
>
> Humbly (?) yours,
>
> --Helen
> Female
> Greek
> (Light/Torch)

*** Helen, I hate to break it to you, but according to Robert Graves
in his 2-volume work "THE GREEK MYTHS", the name "Helen" (as does the
name "Helenus") means "moon" (or "basket used for offerings to the
Moon-goddess"); the names "Helle" and "Hellen" both mean "bright",
though, which isn't all that different from "light". In Greek, the
name "Helen" isn't spelled with an "H" in front, since there is no
letter "H" in Greek -- the capital Eta may LOOK like an "H", but it's
a vowel; the "H" in the name "Helen" is a 'rough breathing mark',
pronounced like our letter "H"; and that initial "H"-sound in Greek
is interchanged at times with the letter "S", so that the ordinary
Greek word for the Moon goddess -- Selene -- is really no different
from the name "Helen"/"Helenus"/"Helene"/etc. `elene = Selene

According to Graves, "Helen and Helle, or Selene, are local variants
of the Moon-goddess, whose identity with Lucian's Syrian goddess is
emphasized by Hyginus. But Hyginus's account is confused: it was the
goddess herself who laid the world-egg after coupling with the
serpent Ophion, and who hatched it on the waters, adopting the form
of a dove. She herself rose from the Void. Helen had two temples near
Sparta: one at Therapnae, built on a Mycenaean site; another at
Dendra, connected with a tree cult, as her Rhodian shrine also was.
Pollux mentions a Spartan festival called the Helenephoria, closely
resembling Athene's Thesmophoria at Athens, during which certain
unmentionable objects were carried in reliefs showing her accompanied
by the Dioscuri. The objects will have been phallic emblems; she was
an orgiastic goddess. ("THE GREEK MYTHS", Vol. 1, pages 207-208)

No wonder Paris of Troy had the hots for Helen of Sparta! By now,
Helen, I bet you wish you didn't know what you now know about the
real meaning of your name. You wouldn't happen to have a basket
with "certain unmentionable objects" in it, now, do you...? ;)

Patrick, the annoying jerk who must think he knows-it-all...
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Group: potadg Message: 25279 From: patrickmichaeltilton Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: Denny Crane!
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , <veetus@e...> wrote:
> I heard that "Star Trek: Enterprise" has been cancelled. Last
episode is in May. After that the fans will be Trekless. I didn't
watch it but I know there are some fans around so I thought I'd
mention it. It lasted 4 years, like the original.
> Kudos to William Shatner for his continued success but he looks
kinda bloated to me these days. It's hard to watch him. - - - Jeff

*** The original "STAR TREK" lasted only 3 seasons, Jeff -- c'mon,
you KNEW that, didn't ya? The 3rd and last season saw episodes
like "SPOCK'S BRAIN" -- which means it was probably a good thing that
it didn't make it into a 4th year...

A fews years after it was cancelled, though, there WAS a 2-season
animated version (16 episodes in its first season, 6 in its second
season). Supposedly, they're gonna release TAS (The Animated Series)
on DVD sometime this year. Compared to most animated series back in
the early-to-middle '70s, "STAR TREK" was rather good. One of the
episodes was written by Larry Niven ("SLAVER WEAPON"), and it was
quite good. Better than "SPOCK'S BRAIN" anyway! Yet the guys in
charge of TREK consider "SPOCK'S BRAIN" to be part of the official
STAR TREK 'canon', but not any of the animated episodes.

I agree about Shatner's "bloated" looks, though. Not as bloated as
Jerry Lewis, but that was due to him having an adverse reaction to
medications he was taking. Shatner must be indulging his sweet-tooth,
I'm afraid; during the original series run, he had an on-going
problem with his weight: the further in to each season, the more
weight he would have. He would trim down during the "off"-season and
then not have enough time during the shooting schedule to exercise. I
don't know if it was dietary or genetic, but Nimoy and DeForest
Kelley were always able to maintain a slimmer physique. Doohan,
though, blimped up nicely over the years. Just compare him in "STAR
TREK THE MOTION PICTURE" and "THE WRATH OF KHAN" -- man, he put on
the pounds in-between those pictures! I wonder if they designed the
Engineering duds for "WRATH OF KHAN" specifically to try to 'hide'
his girth.

Roddy McDowall never had a problem with weight, I'm guessing. He
seemed to have always been a slim person. I wonder if wearing all
that make-up and costume in the POTA series helped him to sweat it
off? Then again, well after he was finished with POTA (performance-
wise), he still retained a slim physique. I wonder if it's just self-
discipline, or if it's also in part genetic. I've grown up eating
American cuisine -- fast food heavy in saturated fats -- and I've
always had to struggle with weight. Then again, I've got some friends
who are absolutely HUGE (they "game" a lot -- D&D, that sort of
thing), so it's like Rodney Dangerfield in "BACK TO SCHOOL": "If you
want to feel thin, hang around fat people!"

"Denny Crane!"

By the way, Spader himself is looking a bit chubbier about the face,
too. He & Bill should practise their lines on the treadmill, maybe...?

Patrick
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Group: potadg Message: 25280 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: Kim Hunter's Autobiographical Cookbook
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I have a copy of this ...also autographed....got it online somewhere...she must have signed a lot of them! It's very cool that she included Ape stuff.....
 
Sorry I am about 300 emails behind.....I'm in New Orleans for MARDI GRAS!!!!!.....limited computer access.....plus I will be drizzy binking...I mean busy drinking so I will catch up when I can. Happy Mardi Gras everyone!
Tim
 


LordTZer0@... wrote:
In a message dated 1/30/2005 8:49:28 P.M. Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:
T, do you have a scanner?  ;)
 
Yes, yes I do.
Here's a small sample . . .
 

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Group: potadg Message: 25281 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: One for the girls.....
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Speaking of "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"...the new movie trailer uses Elfman's score to POTA 2001.......

Neil <nfoster@...> wrote:
-- That's right T! In fact: 'Space is big. Really big. You just
won't believe how vastly hugely mindbogglingly big it is. I mean you
may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's
just peanuts to space.' ;-) (with thanks to Douglas Adams!)

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Group: potadg Message: 25282 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 2/4/2005
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My undergraduate degree is in cultural anthroplogy, I wrote my senior thesis on the cult of star Trek since I was and still am a trekkie. When Shatner came to Falmouth, I saw him in Deathtrap and when he came out after the play,I gave him the paper(poor soul). He looked at me in a panic so I told him when he is really bored he could read it and he laughed.
 
I thought his acting on stage was better than on tv and was mightly impressed. I have seen him a number of times at Star Trek conventions and while I am not fond of his personality I admire that he doesn't say anything negative about his costars who are not fond of him. He is also an animal person and loves horses and dogs. The last time i saw him at a convention he seemed to have mellowed and told funny stories. Elaine
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Group: potadg Message: 25283 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: Denny Crane!
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Group: potadg Message: 25284 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
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Always enjoy these Neil.....what episode is the friese from?
 
Tim
 


Neil <nfoster@...> wrote:

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Nice one again Neil!

-- Thanks, a couple more to come yet!

Neil



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Group: potadg Message: 25285 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 2/4/2005
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  Yes, it's official. The last "Enterprise" is in May. And the first season hits DVD on May 3rd. The most recent "Star trek" movie did so bad that they're having a hard time getting another one going. Maybe it's what the doctor ordered, a break for the franchise. Let's have some more POTA instead! - - - Jeff
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Denny Crane!

Is that for real, the cancellation of Star Trek Enterprise? I read that the ratings had gone up. Elaine
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Group: potadg Message: 25286 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: Figures Box
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That’s OK!

Ha Ha!

 

Nelson

 

(ie – you guys have to WAIT!!!)

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Hight [snickertown@...]
Sent: Saturday, 5 February 2005 12:23 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Figures Box

 

I would prefer that we wait to upload Neil's picture
until we have the actual box mock-up. Let's have them
see the final product. It's going to blow people back
to 1974 when MEGO ruled the Earth.

Thx for asking.


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Group: potadg Message: 25287 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/4/2005
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I agree – and if we get more ST, then bring on The Borg!

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: veetus@... [veetus@...]
Sent: Saturday, 5 February 2005 6:19 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Denny Crane!

 

  Yes, it's official. The last "Enterprise" is in May. And the first season hits DVD on May 3rd. The most recent "Star trek" movie did so bad that they're having a hard time getting another one going. Maybe it's what the doctor ordered, a break for the franchise. Let's have some more POTA instead! - - - Jeff

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 10:47 AM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Denny Crane!

 

Is that for real, the cancellation of Star Trek Enterprise? I read that the ratings had gone up. Elaine


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Group: potadg Message: 25288 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/4/2005
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I couldn't ever open the last fake chapter of Within....not on my computer...because did I mention I was at MARDI GRAS!?!?.....But I really want tos ee it....Michael or Neil can you send it too me as an attachment? Thanks....I'm very glad you didn't decide to end it...I want that (and "going home") to run for YEARS!
Tim
 

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Group: potadg Message: 25289 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Marvel UK issue 16 now online
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Issue 16 is now on Hunter's site:
 
 
Greg P.
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Group: potadg Message: 25290 From: Neil Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@y...>
wrote:
> Always enjoy these Neil.....what episode is the friese from?

-- Tim that was from the first episode, the first time we get a look
at the apes in Ape City. They are having some meeting in the council
chambers(?) and the camera pans along it up on the wall at one stage.

Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 25291 From: Neil Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: IMPORTANT!
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@y...>
wrote:
> I couldn't ever open the last fake chapter of Within....not on my
computer...because did I mention I was at MARDI GRAS!?!?.....But I
really want tos ee it....Michael or Neil can you send it too me as
an attachment? Thanks....I'm very glad you didn't decide to end
it...I want that (and "going home") to run for YEARS!

--I'll send you a copy of page 6 that has the fake ending, I think I
still have a copy somewhere around here.

Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 25292 From: Andrew Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Will there be a major POTA 40th Anniversary Convention during 2008?
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Hi..New to the group, and of course I'm a big fan. Yes, I'm getting
ready for the 40th anniversary of the Planet of the Apes. I know
it's pretty early to be thinking about this, but I want to attend a
major POTA convention and I assume it will be in 2008. What do you
guys think? A lot of the original actors and crew have passed. But,
I can envision Natalie Trundy, Linda Harrison, William Creber, James
Naughton and others there. I'm sure it would be in California -
tours of the old Fox Ranch and Malibu beach would be a lot of fun!
What do you guys think? I'm ready to write the date on my calendar!
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Group: potadg Message: 25293 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: Livia and Zira
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In a message dated 2/4/2005 12:05:24 P.M. Central Standard Time, patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:
It may be that some people nowadays name their daughters "Livia"
thinking of it as a shortened form of the name "Olivia" (the
way "Liz" is a shortened form of the name "Elizabeth")
 
Here's a research project for you Patrick.  Research all the origins of
the name Zira. I found a lot of variations from Asian to Basque.  Most
of them seem to mean sunrise, or dawn.  It's weird to think of Zira's
character being named Dawn.
 
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Group: potadg Message: 25294 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: One for the girls.....
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In a message dated 2/4/2005 1:02:45 P.M. Central Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:
Speaking of "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"...the new movie trailer uses Elfman's score to POTA 2001.......
That's a bad sign.
 
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Group: potadg Message: 25295 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Wow
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Troma has a book and DVD set on movie making on the cheap.
Maybe we can make a fan movie after all. It's called
Make Your Own Damned Movie.  Sounds like the title was
inspired by Hollywood suits.
 
 
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Group: potadg Message: 25296 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/4/2005
Subject: Re: Walliam Shitner
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and Nimoy....a wise orangutang?
Tim



-- Maybe not Urko but I reckon Shatner certainly would make a great
gorilla.

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Group: potadg Message: 25297 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: IMPORTANT!
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Thank you!  Tim

Neil <nfoster@...> wrote:

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@y...>
wrote:
> I couldn't ever open the last fake chapter of Within....not on my
computer...because did I mention I was at MARDI GRAS!?!?.....But I
really want tos ee it....Michael or Neil can you send it too me as
an attachment? Thanks....I'm very glad you didn't decide to end
it...I want that (and "going home") to run for YEARS!

--I'll send you a copy of page 6 that has the fake ending, I think I
still have a copy somewhere around here.

Neil



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Group: potadg Message: 25299 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: Denny Crane!
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Group: potadg Message: 25300 From: Alan Maxwell Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: A Musical Trip
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"Michael Whitty" <whitty@... > wrote:
> So did we ever get to the bottom of the content of this little gem?

Yes, we did, it's a psychedelic rock concept album inspired by PotA. The
thing we didn't get to the bottom of is where the hell I can get a copy of
it - anyone?

Alan
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Group: potadg Message: 25301 From: Alan Maxwell Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: Within the Planet of the Apes(actually, something completely di
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"Neil" <nfoster@... > wrote:
>
> --Actually getting a bit off this subject, what I would really like
> to see is all the Marvel film adaptions collected into graphic
> novels, much like Malibu did some years ago with Planet, Beneath &
> Escape, but this time for all the movies and have them coloured with
> today's technology.

Have you ever seen the German comics? They just reprint the stuff from the
Marvel mag, but the movie adaptations are coloured (the Terror stories
remain black and white) and the colouring jobs are vastly superior to what
Marvel did with their "Adventures on..." title. Someone really made an
effort with them.

Alan
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Group: potadg Message: 25302 From: Andrew Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: Will there be a major POTA 40th Anniversary Convention during 2
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Andrew" <aliving824@s...> wrote:
> > Hi..New to the group, and of course I'm a big fan. Yes, I'm
> getting ready for the 40th anniversary of the Planet of the Apes.
I
> know it's pretty early to be thinking about this, but I want to
> attend a major POTA convention and I assume it will be in 2008.
>
> --Welcome to the group!
> I wonder what, if anything, Fox may be planning for the 40th
> anniversary. Knowing the luck of us POTA fans though all they will
> do is re-release the original movie again on DVD or whatever we
will
> be watching by then!
>
> Neil

Thanks for your response. Unfortunately, I think a 2008 convention
could be that last chance to see the remaining cast and crew in
group setting. More than likely, the 45th anniversary won't be a big
deal for Fox. I'm sure the 50th would be recoginized, but the
original people from the film would be very slim. I hate to be
morbid, but I think the 40th anniversary (and the opportunity for a
2008 convention) may be the last big one!
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Group: potadg Message: 25303 From: patrickmichaeltilton Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: Denny Crane!
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , taebokitti@a... wrote:
> My undergraduate degree is in cultural anthropology, I wrote my
senior thesis on the cult of Star Trek since I was and still am a
trekkie. When Shatner came to Falmouth, I saw him in Deathtrap and
when he came out after the play, I gave him the paper (poor soul). He
looked at me in a panic so I told him when he is really bored he
could read it and he laughed.
>
> I thought his acting on stage was better than on tv and was
mightily impressed. I have seen him a number of times at Star Trek
conventions and while I am not fond of his personality I admire that
he doesn't say anything negative about his costars who are not fond
of him. He is also an animal person and loves horses and dogs. The
last time i saw him at a convention he seemed to have mellowed and
told funny stories. Elaine

*** Shatner did a lot of stage work prior to his TV work (Twilight
Zone, etc). He acted in Marlowe's "TAMBURLAINE" to some acclaim, I've
read. That play certainly would demand a certain exuberance from an
actor on stage, so I can see how his "delivery" of lines on TV or
film may reflect that stage experience of his.

What role did he play in "DEATHTRAP"? The Michael Caine role from the
movie version, I assume? God, that was a great movie; it must've been
fun to see Shatner do a stage version of it. What a role: a has-been
playwright/teacher in a homosexual relationship with a talented
newbie plotting to kill his unsuspecting wife with a heart-attack!
Did Bill have to kiss the guy in the Christopher Reeve role, the way
Michael Caine did in the movie? Now THAT would take some acting
talent! I could never do that for a role, I'm sorry. Nope. Sorry. No
can do. Any attempt would be so unconvincing to an audience that,
hey, it wouldn't do the play any good.

I cut Shatner a lotta slack regarding his relationship with his Trek
fanbase. None of us can imagine what it must be like to be the at the
focal point of so much adulation and, at times, creepy obsession. As
cool as it would be to have been (or, to have played) the Captain of
the Enterprise, there was a price to pay for it. The actor who played
the President in "ESCAPE" (and who also played Captain Decker in the
Trek episode "THE DOOMSDAY MACHINE"), William Windom, was outspoken
some time back about his feelings towards Trek fans who go nuts about
Trek and every person/place/thing involved in it. To him, it was just
another goddamned acting job, one he did as well as he could; but
that's ALL it was to him, and for him to see some obsessed fan react
to him in person as if his role should've been some kinda "life-
changing experience"... I can see how he would think ill of the nutso
Trekkies who go overboard with it. I dig Trek, mind you, but I don't
worship Roddenberry, Shatner, Nimoy, and the others. I admire the
good work they did and smile at the mediocre stuff that made it to
the TV ("SPOCK'S BRAIN", etc). But I don't wear a Starfleet uniform
to my job, like the goofy gal showcased in that
documentary "TREKKIES". Man, oh man, oh man...

Patrick

P.S. This seems to be rather off-topic for a POTA group, so I'll
throw this in: Aren't the Mutants in "BENEATH" rather similar to the
Talosians in "THE MENAGERIE"/"THE CAGE" episodes of Trek? In both
stories, they are telepathic descendants of the survivors of a
nuclear holocaust on their respective worlds, able to create powerful
illusions in the minds of other people. They both purposely kidnap
the captain of a starship -- Pike in "THE MENAGERIE", Taylor
in "BENEATH" -- and put him in a cage (albeit for different
purposes). Did Paul Dehn see "THE MENAGERIE" episode on TV, and
consciously "borrow" part of its scenario, when he wrote "PLANET OF
THE APES REVISITED"?
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Subject: Re: Not the Borg, but something better...
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> I agree - and if we get more ST, then bring on The Borg!

*** I disagree! They've done the Borg enough. I say they get a guy
like Harve Bennett to screen all the original Trek episodes (the way
he did prior to developing "THE WRATH OF KHAN" after pondering a
sequel of sorts to "SPACE SEED")...

... and, hey, maybe they'll see that there's ANOTHER episode that
sorta leaves us hangin': "A PIECE OF THE ACTION".

In that episode, McCoy accidentally left behind on Sigma Iotia II his
communicator... and Kirk states the obvious: with 23rd Century
technology (the "transtator") in the hands of the Iotians -- a people
with an extremely imitative bent, witness their modeling their
culture on the book "CHICAGO MOBS OF THE TWENTIES" -- how long will
it be before the Iotians will develop that technology and begin
demanding a piece of the Federation's action?

Let's see a Trek movie where the Iotian mobsters -- or, their
descendants -- have developed a warp drive, and begin to "muscle in"
on UFP territory. There are all sorts of possibilities in this kinda
scenario...

Patrick
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Group: potadg Message: 25305 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: A Musical Trip
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Eric Greene has one....he outbid me on ebay!
 
Tim

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Group: potadg Message: 25306 From: kuiama1973@aol.com Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: One for the girls.....
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Well, everyone to their own mate, I love making up way out Sci Fi.

Yours Truly 2005,

Kuiama.

From: mlccougar@...

The WHOLE idea is just stupid... Did your relatives work on the original
Marvel stories, and then brach off to write for Adventure?


In a message dated 1/30/2005 3:14:59 PM Central Standard Time,
kuiama1973@... writes:

> I suggest that the Apes don't know about the Female Race, as they live
> underground in a self generated city. They have created their own
> electricity and
> things and live a much more advanced life underground than anyone who
lives
>
> on top.
>
> They watch and study the Humans above and the Apes and treat the whole
> thing
> like a Scientific Project.
>
> And they have cloning skills, so can clone more advanced Female Humans!!
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Group: potadg Message: 25307 From: patrickmichaeltilton Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: Zira, Dawn, etc... and a Cipher
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 2/4/2005 12:05:24 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> patrickmichaeltilton@y... writes:
>
> It may be that some people nowadays name their daughters "Livia"
> thinking of it as a shortened form of the name "Olivia" (the
> way "Liz" is a shortened form of the name "Elizabeth")
>
>
>
> Here's a research project for you Patrick. Research all the
origins of the name Zira. I found a lot of variations from Asian to
Basque. Most of them seem to mean sunrise, or dawn. It's weird to
think of Zira's character being named Dawn.
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Group: potadg Message: 25308 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: Zira, Dawn, etc... and a Cipher
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In a message dated 2/5/2005 12:07:53 P.M. Central Standard Time, patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:

*** So far, I haven't found a single instance of the name Zira or the
name Zaius ANYWHERE outside of "PLANET OF THE APES". Not to say
either of 'em isn't to be found, but my guess is that Boulle invented
those names
 
I thought you were a smart guy Pat.
Now I know you're an idiot.  Oh sure,
you type good.  And spout theory as
fact, but allow me to Illucidate to you.
 
 
1. Zira cigarettes were around back around the turn of the century.  People still collect the silks that came with them even today.
 
2. I've seen old public records of people named Zira a hundred years ago.
 
3. A male form of Zira, Zerah, can be found in the bible.
 
4.  And lastly, anyone who's seen the Lion King knows they had a character named Zira.  I haven't seen it and even I know that.  I also have an old ice cream top I bought on eBay that has a leopard named Zira, not from the Lion King, and way older than Planet of the Apes.
 
5.  This proves your research is shallow, since a simple Google search would turn up this last fact on the first page.
 
You speak with authority, but it all seems hollow now, since you obviously have no idea what you're talking about, and can't be bothered to spend as much time researching your topic as you do typing about it.
 
 
 
 
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Group: potadg Message: 25309 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/5/2005
Subject: Re: Zira, Dawn, etc... and a Cipher
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In a message dated 2/5/2005 12:07:53 P.M. Central Standard Time, patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:
I doubt if I'll ever find the name "Zaius"
prior to Boulle's use of it in his novel. Same goes for the
name "Zira", I suspect.
You suspect wrong, Muthaf***er!
I've been playing GTA3, and I'm in a
Samuel L. Jackson sort of a mood,
especially after reading this sh**t.
That and I am more than a little
disappointed in Pat's clerical skills.
 
 
 
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Group: potadg Message: 25310 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/5/2005
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    Well lookie here,  Pierre Boulle must have
    time traveled into the past and told them
    what to name their cigarettes, since he
    made the name up! 
     
     
    Oh by the way, I just did a quick
    Google search and the Lion King Zira
    came up first.  I know, Pat will argue that
    it's Post-POTA, but since he's never even
    heard the name out side of Apes, that
    argument doesn't hold water.  I like Pat,
    and after a preponderance of well written
    posts, he almost had me believing that
    his Muthaship Theory was well thought out.
    But in light of this new revelation, I'm going
    back to my original assessment.  It's crap!
    It hurts me to realize he gets all his
    research out of one book.  The Book Of Pat.
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 25311 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/5/2005
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    Hi Alan, it’s good to “hear” you.

     

    I am currently working on this.

     

    I am also working on buying some British Fan Club material (ie all newsletters, decoder, bumper stickers, rodeo program – things most British Fan Club members don’t even REMEMBER!).

     

    The owner firmly does NOT want these ever reproduced – his logic is that he currently has something that NO other POTA collector has and ALL of them want. Hence he won’t just scan pages for me to reproduce and all photos he has sent are intentionally blurry (which makes me kinda wonder about authenticity…..).

     

    SO – guess who is negotiating in the $2000 region to buy all this?

     

    Kinda gives me déjà vu – it is much like the Argentinean comics I paid a ridiculous sum for so the world (and particularly deprived TV Show fans!) could see them. Gee, I’m SO glad I did THAT! ;)

     

    Anyway, regardless, I rarely learn from my mistakes!

    Michael

     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Alan Maxwell [alan@...]
    Sent: Sunday, 6 February 2005 1:01 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] A Musical Trip

     

    "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
    > So did we ever get to the bottom of the content of this little gem?

    Yes, we did, it's a psychedelic rock concept album inspired by PotA. The
    thing we didn't get to the bottom of is where the hell I can get a copy of
    it - anyone?

    Alan


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    Group: potadg Message: 25312 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/5/2005
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    I’ll give you a million dollars if you give Shatner a passionate open-mouthed kiss Patrick!  ;)

    Michael

     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: patrickmichaeltilton [patrickmichaeltilton@...]
    Sent:
    Sunday, 6 February 2005 3:19 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Denny Crane!

     

    ·         Did Bill have to kiss the guy in the Christopher Reeve role, the way
    Michael
    Caine did in the movie? Now THAT would take some acting

    talent! I could never do that for a role, I'm sorry. Nope. Sorry. No
    can do. Any attempt would be so unconvincing to an audience that,
    hey
    , it wouldn't do the play any good.
    .


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    Group: potadg Message: 25313 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/5/2005
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    Alan

     

    How come some guy with an expensive scanner hasn’t copied these and placed them on Hunter’s website?  ;)

    Michael

     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Alan Maxwell [alan@...]
    Sent: Sunday, 6 February 2005 1:02 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Within the Planet of the Apes(actually, something completely different)

     

    "Neil" <nfoster@...> wrote:
    >
    > --Actually getting a bit off this subject, what I would really like
    > to see is all the Marvel film adaptions collected into graphic
    > novels, much like Malibu did some years ago with Planet, Beneath &
    > Escape, but this time for all the movies and have them coloured with
    > today's technology.

    Have you ever seen the German comics? They just reprint the stuff from the
    Marvel mag, but the movie adaptations are coloured (the Terror stories
    remain black and white) and the colouring jobs are vastly superior to what
    Marvel did with their "Adventures on..." title. Someone really made an
    effort with them.

    Alan


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    Group: potadg Message: 25314 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/5/2005
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    Good observation Patrick – I recently watched ST – TOS and I wondered the very same myself!

    Denny Crane! (I just LOVE that line – the delivery is so much like some Monty Python….just the delivery of normal words is HILARIOUS!).

     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: patrickmichaeltilton [patrickmichaeltilton@...]
    Sent:
    Sunday, 6 February 2005 3:19 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Denny Crane!


    P.S. This seems to be rather off-topic for a POTA group, so I'll
    throw this in: Aren't the Mutants in "BENEATH" rather similar to the
    Talosians in "THE MENAGERIE"/"THE CAGE" episodes of Trek? In both
    stories, they are telepathic descendants of the survivors of a
    nuclear holocaust on their respective worlds, able to create powerful
    illusions in the minds of other people. They both purposely kidnap
    the captain of a starship -- Pike in "THE MENAGERIE", Taylor
    in "BENEATH" -- and put him in a cage (albeit for different
    purposes). Did Paul Dehn see "THE MENAGERIE" episode on TV, and
    consciously "borrow" part of its scenario, when he wrote "PLANET OF
    THE APES REVISITED"?







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    Group: potadg Message: 25315 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/5/2005
    Subject: Re: Not the Borg, but something better...
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    BETTER than the BORG?!?!?!

    Well, if it is POSSIBLE, then YES!!!!

    Michael

     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: patrickmichaeltilton [patrickmichaeltilton@...]
    Sent: Sunday, 6 February 2005 3:30 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Not the Borg, but something better...

     


    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
    > I agree - and if we get more ST, then bring on The Borg!

    *** I disagree! They've done the Borg enough. I say they get a guy
    like Harve Bennett to screen all the original Trek episodes (the way
    he did prior to developing "THE WRATH OF KHAN" after pondering a
    sequel of sorts to "SPACE SEED")...

    ... and, hey, maybe they'll see that there's ANOTHER episode that
    sorta leaves us hangin': "A PIECE OF THE ACTION".

    In that episode, McCoy accidentally left behind on Sigma Iotia II his
    communicator... and Kirk states the obvious: with 23rd Century
    technology (the "transtator") in the hands of the Iotians -- a people
    with an extremely imitative bent, witness their modeling their
    culture on the book "CHICAGO MOBS OF THE TWENTIES" -- how long will
    it be before the Iotians will develop that technology and begin
    demanding a piece of the Federation's action?

    Let's see a Trek movie where the Iotian mobsters -- or, their
    descendants -- have developed a warp drive, and begin to "muscle in"
    on UFP territory. There are all sorts of possibilities in this kinda
    scenario...

    Patrick


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    Group: potadg Message: 25316 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/5/2005
    Subject: Re: Zira, Dawn, etc... and a Cipher
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    T,

     

    Please don’t attack people because they are wrong.

     

    Michael

     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
    Sent:
    Sunday, 6 February 2005 8:14 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Zira, Dawn, etc... and a Cipher

     

    Well lookie here,  Pierre Boulle must have

    time traveled into the past and told them

    what to name their cigarettes, since he

    made the name up! 


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    Group: potadg Message: 25317 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 2/5/2005
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    There is also a town in the far northern part India called Zira too.
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    Group: potadg Message: 25318 From: ape_mom Date: 2/5/2005
    Subject: Re: One for the girls.....
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    I can't find the story that this is in reference to, Kuiama. I'd
    love to read it. Can you post it in the fan fic group? Or was it a
    thought in a post? I've been away for a bit... busy with other
    things and must have missed it. Anyway, continue with the thought --
    but first direct me to the beginning of the thread.

    --Helen




    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, kuiama1973@a... wrote:
    > Well, everyone to their own mate, I love making up way out Sci Fi.
    >
    > Yours Truly 2005,
    >
    > Kuiama.
    >
    > From: mlccougar@a...
    >
    > The WHOLE idea is just stupid... Did your relatives work on the
    original
    > Marvel stories, and then brach off to write for Adventure?
    >
    >
    > In a message dated 1/30/2005 3:14:59 PM Central Standard Time,
    > kuiama1973@a... writes:
    >
    > > I suggest that the Apes don't know about the Female Race, as
    they live
    > > underground in a self generated city. They have created their
    own
    > > electricity and
    > > things and live a much more advanced life underground than
    anyone who
    > lives
    > >
    > > on top.
    > >
    > > They watch and study the Humans above and the Apes and treat
    the whole
    > > thing
    > > like a Scientific Project.
    > >
    > > And they have cloning skills, so can clone more advanced
    Female Humans!!
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    Group: potadg Message: 25319 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 2/5/2005
    Subject: Re: Will there be a major POTA 40th Anniversary Convention durin...
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    I like to see one sooner. Like sometime this year or next.
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    Group: potadg Message: 25320 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 2/5/2005
    Subject: Re: Denny Crane!
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    .html Yes, Shatner was in the Michael Caine role and did do the passionate kiss. Elaine<.html
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    Group: potadg Message: 25321 From: Neil Date: 2/5/2005
    Subject: Re: Zira, Dawn, etc... and a Cipher
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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "patrickmichaeltilton"
    <patrickmichaeltilton@y...> wrote:
    >I know what you're all thinking: "GSRH RH DVRIW UFXPRMT HSRG, R'N
    GVOORMT BLF!"

    -- It sure is Patrick, but hey, mind that language! ;-)

    Mvro
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    Group: potadg Message: 25322 From: Neil T Foster Date: 2/5/2005
    Subject: The German comics reprints
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    In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Alan Maxwell" <alan@a...> wrote:
    >Have you ever seen
    the German comics? They just reprint the stuff from the Marvel mag, but the movie adaptations are coloured (the Terror stories remain black and white) and the colouring jobs are vastly superior to what Marvel did with their "Adventures on..." title. Someone really made an effort with them.
     
     
    -- Thanks for that Alan, I had completely forgotten all about those German reprints. I don't have any my self but did find this site ages ago that has the covers and a few of the coloured pages:
     
    I am glad that I  had kept the link to it as it is well worth a look around. Now if we can just talk Whitty into hunting them down and buying them... ;-)
     
    Neil
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    Group: potadg Message: 25323 From: Neil Date: 2/5/2005
    Subject: Re: Will there be a major POTA 40th Anniversary Convention durin...
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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , PofTAfan@a... wrote:
    > I like to see one sooner. Like sometime this year or next.

    -- I think what we will find is that if anything is to happen it
    will have to be done by the fans for the fans without any official
    help from Fox. This seems to be the only way any POTA stuff gets
    done these days.

    Neil
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    Group: potadg Message: 25324 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/5/2005
    Subject: Re: Zira, Dawn, etc... and a Cipher
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    This morning in the crossword puzzle in the New Orleans Times-Picayune was the clue:
    Kim Hunter's role in "Planet of the Apes" (4 letters!) ....I had never seen Zira in a puzzle before....I took it as a good sign.....
     
    Tim
     


     



    > Here's a research project for you Patrick.  Research all the
    origins of the name Zira.

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    Group: potadg Message: 25325 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 2/5/2005
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              Only if the fans make enough noise so Fox hears them. Even if the fans show up at  these sci-fi and comic book conventions. If fans of Star Wars, Star Trek, Stargate SG-1 and Buffy the Vampire Slayer can come out in force at these conventions....we can do the exact same thing. I would like to see a large group of POTA fans show up at these conventions every year and show up at these and maybe try to reason with these Fox executives to do another POTA movie.
     
    Just a suggestions.
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    Group: potadg Message: 25326 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/6/2005
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    Great suggestion, great idea.

     

    I wonder how many POTA fans we have out there?

     

    Maybe we need “rent-a-crowd” – ie even those who are VERY casual fans!

    Michael

     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: PofTAfan@... [PofTAfan@...]
    Sent: Sunday, 6 February 2005 4:51 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Will there be a major POTA 40th Anniversary Convention durin...

     

              Only if the fans make enough noise so Fox hears them. Even if the fans show up at  these sci-fi and comic book conventions. If fans of Star Wars, Star Trek, Stargate SG-1 and Buffy the Vampire Slayer can come out in force at these conventions....we can do the exact same thing. I would like to see a large group of POTA fans show up at these conventions every year and show up at these and maybe try to reason with these Fox executives to do another POTA movie.

     

    Just a suggestions.


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    Group: potadg Message: 25327 From: Neil Date: 2/6/2005
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    Now loaded in the files section are the cards you thought you'd
    never see!

    Thanks to many hours of hard work from the great Greg Plonowski the
    previously unseen Topps card series from Beneath the Planet of the
    Apes are now available!!!!

    To see them in all their glory just visit the files section and
    check out the Beneath cards folder. You won't be disappointed!

    Enjoy.
    Neil
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    Group: potadg Message: 25328 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/6/2005
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    Greg, Neil,

    This is just superb!

    I love the wrapper too!

    Hey....the art on the flip side of the cards....it seems to be
    original....did you find a prototype or something?

    Michael

    -- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
    >
    > Now loaded in the files section are the cards you thought you'd
    > never see!
    >
    > Thanks to many hours of hard work from the great Greg Plonowski
    the
    > previously unseen Topps card series from Beneath the Planet of the
    > Apes are now available!!!!
    >
    > To see them in all their glory just visit the files section and
    > check out the Beneath cards folder. You won't be disappointed!
    >
    > Enjoy.
    > Neil
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    Group: potadg Message: 25329 From: Michael Whitty Date: 2/6/2005
    Subject: Re: Super Special Announcement!!!
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    Oh - the wrapper is on the Home Page:

    http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG



    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
    >
    > Greg, Neil,
    >
    > This is just superb!
    >
    > I love the wrapper too!
    >
    > Hey....the art on the flip side of the cards....it seems to be
    > original....did you find a prototype or something?
    >
    > Michael
    >
    > -- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
    > >
    > > Now loaded in the files section are the cards you thought you'd
    > > never see!
    > >
    > > Thanks to many hours of hard work from the great Greg Plonowski
    > the
    > > previously unseen Topps card series from Beneath the Planet of
    the
    > > Apes are now available!!!!
    > >
    > > To see them in all their glory just visit the files section and
    > > check out the Beneath cards folder. You won't be disappointed!
    > >
    > > Enjoy.
    > > Neil
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    Group: potadg Message: 25330 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/6/2005
    Subject: Re: Zira, Dawn, etc... and a Cipher
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    In a message dated 2/5/2005 4:12:44 P.M. Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:
    Please don't attack people because they are wrong.
    hee hee hee
     
    But seriously, a simple Google search
    should be the minimum research done
    before anyone spouts off a fact that can
    easily be just in just that way.  Let
    common sense reign, for everyone's sake.
     
     
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 25331 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/6/2005
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    In a message dated 2/5/2005 6:34:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, PofTAfan@... writes:
    There is also a town in the far northern part India called Zira too.
     
    Actually it's across the border in Pakistan.
    But yet again another example that it is
    not a Boulle invention
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 25332 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/6/2005
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    In a message dated 2/6/2005 6:38:26 A.M. Central Standard Time, LordTZer0@... writes:
    before anyone spouts off a fact that can
    easily be just in just that way.
    That should be . .  that can easily checked in just that way.
     
    But I've been up all night.  Hey it's Saturday!  Well, Sunday now.
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 25333 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/6/2005
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    If you have a really good atlas check near Lahore.
    It's not a big town, so it's not on most maps.
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 25334 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 2/6/2005
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    In a message dated 2/5/2005 8:59:01 A.M. Central Standard Time, alan@... writes:
    Yes, we did, it's a psychedelic rock concept album inspired by PotA. The
    thing we didn't get to the bottom of is where the hell I can get a copy of
    it - anyone?
     
    POTA has had quite a musical influence.
    From the Redd Kross song, Zira, to the
    band, Ape Management.
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    Group: potadg Message: 25335 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 2/6/2005
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    The very convincing art on the back of the cards, as well as the art on the wrapper, is Neil's handiwork. It's amazing, isn't it? Wait until you see what he came up with for the remaining three films. 
     
    I'd also like to thank Kassidy for her help with the text for the card backs.
     
    Hi-res files suitable for printing and creating your own set of cards will soon be available on Hunter's site. He'll also be hosting these low-res versions for on-line viewing, since they take up a lot of space in the group files. I don't want to capitalize on the available space, so I'm only going to leave the card files here for the next few days.
     
    Greg P. 

    Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:
    Hey....the art on the flip side of the cards....it seems to be
    original....did you find a prototype or something?

    Michael
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    Group: potadg Message: 25336 From: John Date: 2/6/2005
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    Hey. I live just outside New Orleans and work in the French Quarter.
    I hope you enjoy Mardi Gras.... cause its a PAIN IN MY ASS!!!!! Just
    kidding enjoy and be careful. Look for Gene Simmons of KISS on
    Bourbon.
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    Group: potadg Message: 25337 From: John Date: 2/6/2005
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    Awe. Come on. You gotta admit that was kinda funny and I'm sure it
    was done all in good sport...right? I've said what have turned out to
    be some dumb things in the group and have been put in my place, and
    for one feel I'm a better person for it. And my list of people to
    kill just keeps getting longer and longer and longer...
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    Group: potadg Message: 25338 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/6/2005
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    These just convince me that we don't need any stinking Fox products.....we will just create our own little world and all bask in it...
     
    Tim
     


    Greg Plonowski <urko3085@...> wrote:
    The very convincing art on the back of the cards, as well as the art on the wrapper, is Neil's handiwork. It's amazing, isn't it? Wait until you see what he came up with for the remaining three films. 
     
    I'd also like to thank Kassidy for her help with the text for the card backs.
     
    Hi-res files suitable for printing and creating your own set of cards will soon be available on Hunter's site. He'll also be hosting these low-res versions for on-line viewing, since they take up a lot of space in the group files. I don't want to capitalize on the available space, so I'm only going to leave the card files here for the next few days.
     
    Greg P. 

    Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:
    Hey....the art on the flip side of the cards....it seems to be
    original....did you find a prototype or something?

    Michael

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    Group: potadg Message: 25339 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 2/6/2005
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    Hey Dr. Z...I can imagine it's a pain for anyone who works down in the Quarter......I always avoid Bourbon Street because it's just too damn jam packed....but I did see Gene Simmons in the parade yesterday and a buddy of mine caught some beads that Gene threw and put them on his dog. Marisa Tomei was the Grand Marshall but looked like she'd rather be somewhere else....Tonight Sean Astin and Elijah Wood will both be in the Super Bowl competing Bacchus parade.....Everyone should experience Mardi Gras sometime in their life....ain't nothin' else like it (in the States)
    Tim
     

    John <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:

    Hey. I live just outside New Orleans and work in the French Quarter.
    I hope you enjoy Mardi Gras.... cause its a PAIN IN MY ASS!!!!! Just
    kidding enjoy and be careful. Look for Gene Simmons of KISS on
    Bourbon.



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    Group: potadg Message: 25340 From: John Date: 2/6/2005
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    The Beneath cards are awesome! I can not wait till you do the
    Conquest of the Planet of the Apes set!!!!
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    Group: potadg Message: 25341 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 2/6/2005
    Subject: Talking TV Show.
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    John

    The Talking Viewmaster was a particular type of Viewmaster one would
    purchase and then insert a special Talking Viewmaster Reel. The result
    would be a commentary with the slide show.

    I paid a lot of money for a reel and a machine years ago but when I operated
    it the sound was "wrong" and did not synch properly.

    Way back when I assembled a team to place the Power Records Talking Books on
    Hunter's site, I toyed with the idea of doing a similar representation of
    the Talking Viewmaster.

    With the volume of things I am doing now it has to take low priority for me
    as there are far more important things to be achieve (none the least an
    accompanying booklet, Power Records style, for the 4 Power Records TV audios
    - WOW you should see what Neil has come up with!).

    If you hook up your DVD player to a tape recorder (or to your PC if you must
    have a CD) you will get a great quality audio.

    If you listen to it enough times, you will be able to quote EVERY word!

    Michael

    -----Original Message-----
    From: shanter2002 [mail@...]
    Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 3:10 AM
    To: friends_and_fugitives@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [pota_tv] Talking Viewmaster




    I'm ashamed to admit that I've never heard of the talking Viewmaster--
    -was this on a record or a tape? Has anybody got it? On a related
    topic,does anybody have the capacity to do good audio recordings of
    the TV Series? I'd love to have a tape to listen to in the car!
    Seriously, we know the episodes so well that for us, as fans, a
    little bit of confusing action noise wouldn't be a problem for us as
    we'd still follow it all.It would be cool to do full audios(with
    sleeves---calling Greg, calling Greg!)of the series.Iwas disappointed
    that there wasn't a talking book of the Burton movie---whatever you
    think of the film, audio alone would have been an interesting
    alternative.John, Scrolls.

    Group: potadg Message: 25342 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 2/6/2005
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    Are you DOING a Conquest set?

    Michael
    -----Original Message-----
    From: John [DrZaiusDavis@...]
    Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 7:11 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Super Special Announcement!!!


    The Beneath cards are awesome! I can not wait till you do the
    Conquest of the Planet of the Apes set!!!!
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    Group: potadg Message: 25343 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 2/6/2005
    Subject: Mardi Gras (OT)
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    We have a Marti Gras in Sydney, but it is kinda special!  ;)

    Michael
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Tim "apefan" [apefan23@...]
    Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 5:05 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Mardi Gras (OT)

    Hey Dr. Z...I can imagine it's a pain for anyone who works down in the Quarter......I always avoid Bourbon Street because it's just too damn jam packed....but I did see Gene Simmons in the parade yesterday and a buddy of mine caught some beads that Gene threw and put them on his dog. Marisa Tomei was the Grand Marshall but looked like she'd rather be somewhere else....Tonight Sean Astin and Elijah Wood will both be in the Super Bowl competing Bacchus parade.....Everyone should experience Mardi Gras sometime in their life....ain't nothin' else like it (in the States)
    Tim
     

    John <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:

    Hey. I live just outside New Orleans and work in the French Quarter.
    I hope you enjoy Mardi Gras.... cause its a PAIN IN MY ASS!!!!! Just
    kidding enjoy and be careful. Look for Gene Simmons of KISS on
    Bourbon.
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    Group: potadg Message: 25344 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 2/6/2005
    Subject: Re: Zira, Dawn, etc... and a Cipher
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    Get some sleep - and go easy on Patrick! 

    Michael
    -----Original Message-----
    From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
    Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 11:45 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Zira, Dawn, etc... and a Cipher

    In a message dated 2/6/2005 6:38:26 A.M. Central Standard Time, LordTZer0@... writes:
    before anyone spouts off a fact that can
    easily be just in just that way.
    That should be . .  that can easily checked in just that way.
     
    But I've been up all night.  Hey it's Saturday!  Well, Sunday now.
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    Group: potadg Message: 25345 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 2/6/2005
    Subject: Re: Zira, Dawn, etc... and a Cipher
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    If Boulle said this word it would take on a completely different meaning!
    -----Original Message-----
    From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
    Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 11:46 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Zira, Dawn, etc... and a Cipher
     
     Lahore.
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    Group: potadg Message: 25346 From: Neil Date: 2/6/2005
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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
    > Oh - the wrapper is on the Home Page:
    > http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG

    -- And the full version of it is in the folder in the files section
    along with all the cards.

    Neil
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    Group: potadg Message: 25347 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 2/6/2005
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    I missed it in the Files sorry Neil!

    And the Homepage colour scheme REALLY is SOMETHING!

    Michael
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Neil [nfoster@...]
    Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 8:18 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Super Special Announcement!!!


    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
    > Oh - the wrapper is on the Home Page:
    > http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG

    -- And the full version of it is in the folder in the files section
    along with all the cards.

    Neil
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    Group: potadg Message: 25348 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 2/6/2005
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    Yes, I'll be doing sets for Escape, Conquest and Battle.
     
    Greg

    "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...> wrote:
    Are you DOING a Conquest set?

    Michael
    -----Original Message-----
    From: John [DrZaiusDavis@...]
    Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 7:11 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Super Special Announcement!!!


    The Beneath cards are awesome! I can not wait till you do the
    Conquest of the Planet of the Apes set!!!!
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    Group: potadg Message: 25349 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 2/6/2005
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    Oh - that answers my question.
     
    Well, YES, the art looks very much like the same artist did it - I thought maybe you stumbled upon a prototype!
     
    Unbelievable work guys!

    Michael
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Greg Plonowski [urko3085@...]
    Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 12:59 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Super Special Announcement!!!

    The very convincing art on the back of the cards, as well as the art on the wrapper, is Neil's handiwork. It's amazing, isn't it? Wait until you see what he came up with for the remaining three films. 
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    Group: potadg Message: 25350 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 2/6/2005
    Subject: Re: Zira, Dawn, etc... and a Cipher
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    It would be too obvious for me to respond by putting you in your place, RIGHT?

    Michael
    -----Original Message-----
    From: John [DrZaiusDavis@...]
    Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 1:47 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Zira, Dawn, etc... and a Cipher


    Awe. Come on. You gotta admit that was kinda funny and I'm sure it
    was done all in good sport...right? I've said what have turned out to
    be some dumb things in the group and have been put in my place, and
    for one feel I'm a better person for it. And my list of people to
    kill just keeps getting longer and longer and longer...
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    Group: potadg Message: 25351 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 2/6/2005
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    Seems to be the best product coming out these days!

    Michael
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Tim "apefan" [apefan23@...]
    Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 5:00 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Super Special Announcement!!!

    These just convince me that we don't need any stinking Fox products.....we will just create our own little world and all bask in it...
     
    Tim
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    Group: potadg Message: 25352 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 2/6/2005
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    YEAH!!!!!
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Greg Plonowski [urko3085@...]
    Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 8:25 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Super Special Announcement!!!

    Yes, I'll be doing sets for Escape, Conquest and Battle.
     
    Greg

    "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...> wrote:
    Are you DOING a Conquest set?

    Michael
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    Group: potadg Message: 25353 From: Neil Date: 2/6/2005
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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael"
    <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
    > Are you DOING a Conquest set?

    -- I think this line from Greg's earlier reply might give you a
    slight hint ;-)
    "Wait until you see what he came up with for the remaining three
    films."

    Neil
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    Group: potadg Message: 25354 From: John Date: 2/6/2005
    Subject: Re: Mardi Gras (OT)
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    Special? Like that feeling Christmas brings as a child or SPECIAL
    like Sloth in Goonies?
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    Group: potadg Message: 25355 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 2/6/2005
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    Special like it is the GAY Mardi Gras!
    -----Original Message-----
    From: John [DrZaiusDavis@...]
    Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 8:42 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Mardi Gras (OT)


    Special? Like that feeling Christmas brings as a child or SPECIAL
    like Sloth in Goonies?
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    Group: potadg Message: 25356 From: John Date: 2/6/2005
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    Then its not much different than ours. OOPS! I forgot to warn Tim not
    to walk to the far end of Bourbon St. I guess all the rainbow flags
    and Wizard of Oz references will give it away... if all the half-
    naked men holding hands dosen't. Really. It looks like the cornfield
    hunt without the apes or Nova down there... not that there is
    anything wrong with that if that's your thing. Hehehe.
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    Group: potadg Message: 25357 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 2/6/2005
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    Yeah - I know lots of straight people who go to the Sydney Mardi Gras, but it is the National Gay and Lesbian Marti Gras.
     
    Neil, what are you doing that weekend?  ;)

    Michael
    -----Original Message-----
    From: John [DrZaiusDavis@...]
    Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 8:51 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Mardi Gras (OT)


    Then its not much different than ours. OOPS! I forgot to warn Tim not
    to walk to the far end of Bourbon St. I guess all the rainbow flags
    and Wizard of Oz references will give it away... if all the half-
    naked men holding hands dosen't. Really. It looks like the cornfield
    hunt without the apes or Nova down there... not that there is
    anything wrong with that if that's your thing. Hehehe.
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    Group: potadg Message: 25358 From: John Date: 2/6/2005
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    Hey Tim. Make sure you visit the store "Fun Rockin'" its on the end
    of Decatur St. right near the French Market. Its a retro store that
    has some of the coolest stuff. I've bought some Planet of the Apes T-
    shirts there. Not to mention Alice Cooper,Iron Maiden,Motley Crue,
    Slayer etc. iron-on t-shirts for my 4 yr. old! They also have alot of
    toys and sci-fi collectibles. They have a full sized Gremlin from the
    Steven Speilberg movie in the window. You can't miss it.
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    Group: potadg Message: 25359 From: Neil Date: 2/6/2005
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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael"
    <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
    > Yeah - I know lots of straight people who go to the Sydney Mardi
    Gras, but it is the National Gay and Lesbian Marti Gras.
    > Neil, what are you doing that weekend? ;)

    -- I'll be at home very busily drawing, or something!!

    Neil
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