Thanks, Kass.

Dan


     
   Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 07:35:00 -0800 (PST)
   From: Kassidy Rae <valwp@...>
Subject: Re: Re: Dan, dirty ape

Welcome Dan!  Glad you are doing better.
Kass

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
group.

File : /CorneliusA2.pdf
Uploaded by : doctahoot <doctahoot@...>
Description : Cornelius Paper model (1st sheet)

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/CorneliusA2.pdf

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

Regards,

doctahoot <doctahoot@...>

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
group.

File : /CorneliusB2.pdf
Uploaded by : doctahoot <doctahoot@...>
Description : Cornelius Paper model (2nd sheet)

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/CorneliusB2.pdf

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

Regards,

doctahoot <doctahoot@...>

Just uploaded it into the files section now, enjoy!

Mike

.html

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike [doctahoot@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 3:25 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Cornelius model is up

Just uploaded it into the files section now, enjoy!

Mike

<.html

Thanks Michael! Comics test page? I've been busy lately and so I've
missed alot of discussion and headlines...where abouts is this test
page?

Mike

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:

> Mike, that is INCREDIBLE!
>
> Thanks you for sharing this with us.
>
> When are you going to have a try of the COMICS TEST PAGE?!?!?!
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike [doctahoot@y...]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 3:25 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Cornelius model is up
>
>
>
> Just uploaded it into the files section now, enjoy!
>
> Mike
>
>

We've seen Nova already I know, but finally we can see a non-prototype
pic. Brent and Ursus are included, along with Caesar whom I'm very
excited about. Unless it's just a generic Conquest Chimp, still
excellent:

Caesar:
http://www.411beanies.com/1julius/Cons/TF2005/SideShow/TF05SideShowPlanetApes12.jpg

Brent, looking a little deranged:
http://www.411beanies.com/1julius/Cons/TF2005/SideShow/TF05SideShowPlanetApes7.jpg

Ursus:
http://www.411beanies.com/1julius/Cons/TF2005/SideShow/TF05SideShowPlanetApes6.jpg

Nova:
http://www.411beanies.com/1julius/Cons/TF2005/SideShow/TF05SideShowPlanetApes9.jpg

Group shot:
http://www.411beanies.com/1julius/Cons/TF2005/SideShow/TF05SideShowPlanetApes13.jpg

There's more on this page if you scroll down, though nothing else new:
http://www.aftimes.com/aslu/slu..html"

.html

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike [doctahoot@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 4:41 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Cornelius model is up

Thanks Michael!  Comics test page?  I've been busy lately and so I've
missed alot of discussion and headlines...where abouts is this test
page? 

Mike

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:
> Mike, that is INCREDIBLE!
> 
> Thanks you for sharing this with us.
> 
> When are you going to have a try of the COMICS TEST PAGE?!?!?!
> 
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike [doctahoot@y...]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 3:25 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Cornelius model is up
>
>
>
> Just uploaded it into the files section now, enjoy!
>
> Mike
>

.html

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike [doctahoot@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 4:50 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Toyfair shots of Sideshow's Ursus, Nova, Brent- and Conquest Caesar!

We've seen Nova already I know, but finally we can see a non-prototype
pic.  Brent and Ursus are included, along with Caesar whom I'm very
excited about.  Unless it's just a generic Conquest Chimp, still
excellent:

Caesar:
http://www.411beanies.com/1julius/Cons/TF2005/SideShow/TF05SideShowPlanetApes12.jpg

Brent, looking a little deranged:
http://www.411beanies.com/1julius/Cons/TF2005/SideShow/TF05SideShowPlanetApes7.jpg

Ursus:
http://www.411beanies.com/1julius/Cons/TF2005/SideShow/TF05SideShowPlanetApes6.jpg

Nova:
http://www.411beanies.com/1julius/Cons/TF2005/SideShow/TF05SideShowPlanetApes9.jpg

Group shot:
http://www.411beanies.com/1julius/Cons/TF2005/SideShow/TF05SideShowPlanetApes13.jpg

There's more on this page if you scroll down, though nothing else new:
http://www.aftimes.com/aslu/slu..html"

<.html

Thanks Michael, I'll see if I can come up with something in between my
other tasks.

Mike

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:

> PANEL 1
>
> Establishing shot: Ape City as we know it from the movies
>
> PANEL 2
>
> Zoom in on one building. Show a Gorilla guard outside standing next

to the

> wooden door
>
> PANEL 3
>
> Interior shot: A 'Zaius type' office. There is an Orangutan handing

a scroll

> / or rolled up parchment to a Chimpanzee (give him a bag of some

kind that

> he can use to carry it in) In the background is a bound human held by
> another Gorilla soldier.
>
> PANEL 4
>
> Close up of the Orangutan as if we were the Chimpanzee and he is

talking to

> us.
>
> PANEL 5
>
> Cut to outside: The Chimp is getting on to a horse, the Gorilla

guarding the

> door looks on disinterestedly in the background.
>
> PANEL 6
>
> Wide shot: The Chimp on the horse thunders down the busy street /

road on

> his way out of the city. Apes are going about their daily business

etc. Some

> turn to watch him speed by.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike [doctahoot@y...]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 4:41 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Cornelius model is up
>

.html

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike [doctahoot@...]
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 4:57 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Comics Sample Page (From the Files)

Thanks Michael, I'll see if I can come up with something in between my
other tasks.

Mike

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:
> PANEL 1
>
> Establishing shot: Ape City as we know it from the movies
>
> PANEL 2
>
> Zoom in on one building. Show a Gorilla guard outside standing next
to the
> wooden door
>
> PANEL 3
>
> Interior shot: A 'Zaius type' office. There is an Orangutan handing
a scroll
> / or rolled up parchment to a Chimpanzee (give him a bag of some
kind that
> he can use to carry it in) In the background is a bound human held by
> another Gorilla soldier.
>
> PANEL 4
>
> Close up of the Orangutan as if we were the Chimpanzee and he is
talking to
> us.
>
> PANEL 5
>
> Cut to outside: The Chimp is getting on to a horse, the Gorilla
guarding the
> door looks on disinterestedly in the background.
>
> PANEL 6
>
> Wide shot: The Chimp on the horse thunders down the busy street /
road on
> his way out of the city. Apes are going about their daily business
etc. Some
> turn to watch him speed by.

<.html

.html

In a message dated 2/21/2005 6:45:18 P.M. Central Standard Time, sand_hill_school@... writes:

So, would you share your idea with us as you think it should have
been presented?

 

Uhhhh. . . . no.

 

 

Actually it wasn't out of the realm of coincidence --

Apes vs Buggy Aliens.  In fact there's a music

video called Monkey vs Robot.  So the idea of a

primitive man creature fighting against a super

intelligent insect or machine is a reoccurring

theme.  I don't know how far back it goes,

but at least to 1967, predating POTA, to a

film called Quatermass And The Pit.  It was

a British film, You may have seen it on TV.

Over here it was known as Five Million Years

To Earth.  But even that is a remake from

an 1958 installment in the Quatermass

series that goes back all the way to 1953.

So as a concept, it's not copyrightable and

is fair game for anyone to retell that tale.

Even 2001 had cavemen and computers. So . . .

 

 

 

 

<.html

Welcome, Dan. It's good to see your face.

Helen


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "mystic4ever" <mystic4ever@s...>
wrote:

> Thanks, Kass.
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 07:35:00 -0800 (PST)
> From: Kassidy Rae <valwp@y...>
> Subject: Re: Re: Dan, dirty ape
>
> Welcome Dan! Glad you are doing better.
> Kass

Thanks, Helen.

You can see my face????

=o)

Dan


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:

>
> Welcome, Dan. It's good to see your face.
>
> Helen
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "mystic4ever" <mystic4ever@s...>
> wrote:
> > Thanks, Kass.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 07:35:00 -0800 (PST)
> > From: Kassidy Rae <valwp@y...>
> > Subject: Re: Re: Dan, dirty ape
> >
> > Welcome Dan! Glad you are doing better.
> > Kass

:) Just as much as I ever have!! We haven't seen you in a while.
What have you been up to? What's your opinion of the flood of
Sideshow Apes figures?

Helen


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "canadianapefandan"
<mystic4ever@s...> wrote:

>
> Thanks, Helen.
>
> You can see my face????
>
> =o)
>
> Dan
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > Welcome, Dan. It's good to see your face.
> >
> > Helen
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "mystic4ever" <mystic4ever@s...>
> > wrote:
> > > Thanks, Kass.
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 07:35:00 -0800 (PST)
> > > From: Kassidy Rae <valwp@y...>
> > > Subject: Re: Re: Dan, dirty ape
> > >
> > > Welcome Dan! Glad you are doing better.
> > > Kass

.html Thanks a lot Mike, I'll be making one as soon as I can.

I've already noted a small improvement that I will make.  Since only outer layer of the hands are provided, I will try to make the inner layers that consist only of the hair and creases. These flip sides can be created by basically removing the finger nails from the 'opposite' hand. For example the inner portion of the right hand can be created by reprinting the left hand without the finger nails. Then just stick the two sides back to back.
That way the hands will look complete from any angle you look at the model.

If you ever modify you source files, you may consider adding the flip side of the hands.

Thanks again and pass on our thanks to the originator of the layout too.

Dario

Mike wrote:

Just uploaded it into the files section now, enjoy!

Mike

--

Dario Sciola SDM/CBM Design Nortel Networks Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

darios@... (613) 763-5232 ESN: 393-5232 YIM: lmcdasc

Did you hear about the dyslexic, agnostic, insomniac? He was up all night wondering if there really was a dog!

<.html

I think they're quite expensive, Helen, especially for us Canadians.
They (SIDESHOW)only offer one method of shipping up here and it's
around $20. Add the exchange rate and duty at customs and the only
one I've purchased to date (Gorilla Soldier) cost me around $80
Canadian. That's a lot of bananas.

I checked the site MTOTSKY suggested yesterday (thanks) and the Ursus
figure is a bit cheaper there, but then there's the shipping.

So as much as I'd like to buy the works, I'm being selective for $
reasons, but Ursus is a must have for me.

As for the other two new ones, Brent will probably sell well since
it's his first time in toy form (isn't it?) but I'm not so sure about
the Mutant.

Have you been buying any?

Dan





--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:

>
> :) Just as much as I ever have!! We haven't seen you in a while.
> What have you been up to? What's your opinion of the flood of
> Sideshow Apes figures?
>
> Helen
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "canadianapefandan"
> <mystic4ever@s...> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Helen.
> >
> > You can see my face????
> >
> > =o)
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Welcome, Dan. It's good to see your face.
> > >
> > > Helen
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "mystic4ever" <mystic4ever@s...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Thanks, Kass.
> > > >
> > > > Dan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 07:35:00 -0800 (PST)
> > > > From: Kassidy Rae <valwp@y...>
> > > > Subject: Re: Re: Dan, dirty ape
> > > >
> > > > Welcome Dan! Glad you are doing better.
> > > > Kass

.html I also have belonged to the gorilla foundation and have several pieces of artwork by Koko and Michael. Hopefully this scandal won't cause too much damage. Elaine<.html

YEah! Homemade do it yourself apes! LOVE IT!!!!! THANK
YOU!
Tim

--- PotaDG@yahoogroups.com wrote:

>
>
> Hello,
>
> This email message is a notification to let you know
> that
> a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the
> PotaDG
> group.
>
> File : /CorneliusA2.pdf
> Uploaded by : doctahoot <doctahoot@...>
> Description : Cornelius Paper model (1st sheet)
>
> You can access this file at the URL:
>

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/CorneliusA2.pdf

>
>
> To learn more about file sharing for your group,
> please visit:
> http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files
>
> Regards,
>
> doctahoot <doctahoot@...>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

__________________________________

My mom and I actually went in [sort of] together on five... I got
the gorilla soldier, Taylor, Zira, Cornelius, and Zaius. I really
want to buy Ursus and I have an unexpected desire to grab a mutant.
BUT... I'm on my own to do this and it's WAY too much money for me -
- even here. I've got three kids graduating high school this year
and that means MORE expense, not less...

I hope they continue adding to the line, though. It will be
interesting to see how it fills out. I'm surprised by the presence
of so many new Apes at Toy Fair.

I definitely want an Ursus, too. But... $$$. I didn't find Ursus
on the other Amoktime site. I'll look there again before I buy. I
wonder when these will begin to show up on eBay for less money.

Helen




--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "canadianapefandan"
<mystic4ever@s...> wrote:

>
> I think they're quite expensive, Helen, especially for us

Canadians.

> They (SIDESHOW)only offer one method of shipping up here and it's
> around $20. Add the exchange rate and duty at customs and the

only

> one I've purchased to date (Gorilla Soldier) cost me around $80
> Canadian. That's a lot of bananas.
>
> I checked the site MTOTSKY suggested yesterday (thanks) and the

Ursus

> figure is a bit cheaper there, but then there's the shipping.
>
> So as much as I'd like to buy the works, I'm being selective for $
> reasons, but Ursus is a must have for me.
>
> As for the other two new ones, Brent will probably sell well since
> it's his first time in toy form (isn't it?) but I'm not so sure

about

> the Mutant.
>
> Have you been buying any?
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> wrote:
> >
> > :) Just as much as I ever have!! We haven't seen you in a

while.

> > What have you been up to? What's your opinion of the flood of
> > Sideshow Apes figures?
> >
> > Helen
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "canadianapefandan"
> > <mystic4ever@s...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks, Helen.
> > >
> > > You can see my face????
> > >
> > > =o)
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom"

<sand_hill_school@y...>

> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Welcome, Dan. It's good to see your face.
> > > >
> > > > Helen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "mystic4ever"

<mystic4ever@s...>

> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Thanks, Kass.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 07:35:00 -0800 (PST)
> > > > > From: Kassidy Rae <valwp@y...>
> > > > > Subject: Re: Re: Dan, dirty ape
> > > > >
> > > > > Welcome Dan! Glad you are doing better.
> > > > > Kass

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
group.

File : /SideshowLetter.rtf
Uploaded by : ape_mom <sand_hill_school@...>
Description : Sideshow TV Series Character Request

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/SideshowLetter.rtf

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

Regards,

ape_mom <sand_hill_school@...>

There is a letter that was produced in one of the other POTA groups
that requests that Sideshow produce a line of figures featuring
characters from the TV Series. I have put that letter in the files
section. Those that are interested can print the letter as is and
send to Mat Falls at Sideshow, use the letter as a model and write
your own, or just refer to the letter for the mailing address of
Sideshow Toys. In any case, if you'd like to see the TV Series
represented in the Sideshow line of action figures (dolls) please
let them know by sending them a letter with your request.

Helen

The Sideshow figures are a little to much for me to be spending on
action figures (or so my wife tells me),hehehe, but I have been
really impressed with what I've seen and I do hope the line will
continue to be successful. I'd love to see what they would do with
the TV show characters and I would gladly add my name to the list if
you are going to petition Sideshow to do so.

Yeah. Hi John,

Check out the letter. It would be really easy just print it out --
or to add to it or change it a bit, and print it off, and send it
out. I've written a few emails to Sideshow, but never get a
response. I'm thinking that it's easier to send email, but also
easier for them to ignore it. Unless someone is keeping tally, I
assume the emails just get deleted and so do our requests. Anyway,
a written letter, such as the one in the file, would make a
statement and, if there were enough of us, they might notice. It
would be great if you'd sign it, stamp it, and send it.

My reservation is... I don't think Sideshow does a very good job
with the human likenesses. I guess we'll see what they do.

Helen

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@a...> wrote:
>
> The Sideshow figures are a little to much for me to be spending on
> action figures (or so my wife tells me),hehehe, but I have been
> really impressed with what I've seen and I do hope the line will
> continue to be successful. I'd love to see what they would do with
> the TV show characters and I would gladly add my name to the list
if
> you are going to petition Sideshow to do so.

.html

In a message dated 2/22/2005 5:59:32 P.M. Central Standard Time, sand_hill_school@... writes:

My reservation is...  I don't think Sideshow does a very good job
with the human likenesses. 

Brent looks more like Ricardo Montelbon than James Franciscus.

<.html

.html I just pre-ordered Ursus. I wonder if I'll get the dangerous circus poster, one can only hope. Elaine<.html

.html <.html

Hey everybody.

Over the next week or so I am going to be ridding the DG of dead wood.

Of the >350 members, there are really only around 50. The rest are
pseudonyms or old email addresses that no longer belong to people.

I'll be sending emails to any "suspect" members and if I don't get a
response I will remove them from the group.

If I accidentally remove you, don't fret - just let me know and I'll
sort it out ASAP.

Michael

.html.html In a message dated 2/22/05 9:40:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

I'll be sending emails to any "suspect" members

Leve me alone!  I have a right to be suspect if I want to!

-- Rory<.html <.html

.html

-----Original Message-----
From: Haristas@... [Haristas@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 1:45 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Purge

In a message dated 2/22/05 9:40:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

I'll be sending emails to any "suspect" members

Leve me alone!  I have a right to be suspect if I want to!

-- Rory

<.html

.html <.html

You know, I have thought about this before and I have come up with a
solution I like but may be off the wall to every one else.
Cornelius made the statement in Escape when they were being
interogated, "...I had access to history scrolls that were kept
secret from the masters and I suspect that the weapon which
destoryed earth was man's own invertion..."
I wonder if the scrolls told more than Cornelius led on. For
instance, we know in Battle that Cornelius and Zira traveling
through time and escaping the earths destruction was told in the
scrolls because the Lawgiver is reading it from the scroll. We also
know Caesar is mentioned in the scrolls.
I have always thought Cornelius and Zira knew of Caesar and Aldo and
the events of Battle from the scrolls. I always figured to protect
Caesar and "their" own history and future, Cornelius knew Aldo
wasn't the first Ape to say no but Caesar, his and Zira's own son,
was the one. Could Cornelius have lied and just used Aldo's name to
throw off any one ever finding out that Caesar wasn't killed buy
Hasseline and was raised buy Armondo and would eventually be the one
to bring about the establisment of the Planet of the Apes on earth?
What do you think Michael?
John


In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:

> How the hell did they know this?
>
> Michael
>

Let's see what Palisades does with POTA. If they can get into a groove of
smaller, affordable figures like their "Muppets" maybe it'll be like the
Medicoms again. They produced quite a few different Muppets. Maybe they'll
do the characters we've wanted and we'll be able to afford them (and can
pick them out at Toys 'R Us). - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@...>
To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 3:54 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG


>
>
> Yeah. Hi John,
>
> Check out the letter. It would be really easy just print it out --
> or to add to it or change it a bit, and print it off, and send it
> out. I've written a few emails to Sideshow, but never get a
> response. I'm thinking that it's easier to send email, but also
> easier for them to ignore it. Unless someone is keeping tally, I
> assume the emails just get deleted and so do our requests. Anyway,
> a written letter, such as the one in the file, would make a
> statement and, if there were enough of us, they might notice. It
> would be great if you'd sign it, stamp it, and send it.
>
> My reservation is... I don't think Sideshow does a very good job
> with the human likenesses. I guess we'll see what they do.
>
> Helen
>
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@a...> wrote:
> >
> > The Sideshow figures are a little to much for me to be spending on
> > action figures (or so my wife tells me),hehehe, but I have been
> > really impressed with what I've seen and I do hope the line will
> > continue to be successful. I'd love to see what they would do with
> > the TV show characters and I would gladly add my name to the list
> if
> > you are going to petition Sideshow to do so.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

.html

-----Original Message-----
From: luke_the_drifter52 [JLKINSER1970@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 2:31 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: "Aldo said no".

You know, I have thought about this before and I have come up with a
solution I like but may be off the wall to every one else.
Cornelius made the statement in Escape when they were being
interogated, "...I had access to history scrolls that were kept
secret from the masters and I suspect that the weapon which
destoryed earth was man's own invertion..."
I wonder if the scrolls told more than Cornelius led on. For
instance, we know in Battle that Cornelius and Zira traveling
through time and escaping the earths destruction was told in the
scrolls because the Lawgiver is reading it from the scroll. We also
know Caesar is mentioned in the scrolls.
I have always thought Cornelius and Zira knew of Caesar and Aldo and
the events of Battle from the scrolls. I always figured to protect
Caesar and "their" own history and future, Cornelius knew Aldo
wasn't the first Ape to say no but Caesar, his and Zira's own son,
was the one. Could Cornelius have lied and just used Aldo's name to
throw off any one ever finding out that Caesar wasn't killed buy
Hasseline and was raised buy Armondo and would eventually be the one
to bring about the establisment of the Planet of the Apes on earth?
What do you think Michael?
John


In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:
> How the hell did they know this?
> 
> Michael

<.html

.html

-----Original Message-----
From: veetus@... [veetus@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 2:58 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG

  Let's see what Palisades does with POTA. If they can get into a groove of
smaller, affordable figures like their "Muppets" maybe it'll be like the
Medicoms again. They produced quite a few different Muppets. Maybe they'll
do the characters we've wanted and we'll be able to afford them (and can
pick them out at Toys 'R Us). - - - Jeff

<.html

Helen...I found a 2nd cornelius and Zira on ebay for
20 bucks each! (I had to get 2 more to open them!!!)
Some store called "drtoyscloseouts" on ebay.....that's
half price!

Tim

.--- ape_mom <sand_hill_school@...> wrote:

>
> My mom and I actually went in [sort of] together on
> five... I got
> the gorilla soldier, Taylor, Zira, Cornelius, and
> Zaius. I really
> want to buy Ursus and I have an unexpected desire to
> grab a mutant.
> BUT... I'm on my own to do this and it's WAY too
> much money for me -
> - even here. I've got three kids graduating high
> school this year
> and that means MORE expense, not less...
>
> I hope they continue adding to the line, though. It
> will be
> interesting to see how it fills out. I'm surprised
> by the presence
> of so many new Apes at Toy Fair.
>
> I definitely want an Ursus, too. But... $$$. I
> didn't find Ursus
> on the other Amoktime site. I'll look there again
> before I buy. I
> wonder when these will begin to show up on eBay for
> less money.
>
> Helen
>
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "canadianapefandan"
> <mystic4ever@s...> wrote:
> >
> > I think they're quite expensive, Helen, especially
> for us
> Canadians.
> > They (SIDESHOW)only offer one method of shipping
> up here and it's
> > around $20. Add the exchange rate and duty at
> customs and the
> only
> > one I've purchased to date (Gorilla Soldier) cost
> me around $80
> > Canadian. That's a lot of bananas.
> >
> > I checked the site MTOTSKY suggested yesterday
> (thanks) and the
> Ursus
> > figure is a bit cheaper there, but then there's
> the shipping.
> >
> > So as much as I'd like to buy the works, I'm being
> selective for $
> > reasons, but Ursus is a must have for me.
> >
> > As for the other two new ones, Brent will probably
> sell well since
> > it's his first time in toy form (isn't it?) but
> I'm not so sure
> about
> > the Mutant.
> >
> > Have you been buying any?
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom"
> <sand_hill_school@y...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > :) Just as much as I ever have!! We haven't
> seen you in a
> while.
> > > What have you been up to? What's your opinion
> of the flood of
> > > Sideshow Apes figures?
> > >
> > > Helen
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com,
> "canadianapefandan"
> > > <mystic4ever@s...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, Helen.
> > > >
> > > > You can see my face????
> > > >
> > > > =o)
> > > >
> > > > Dan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom"
> <sand_hill_school@y...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Welcome, Dan. It's good to see your face.
> > > > >
> > > > > Helen
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "mystic4ever"
>
> <mystic4ever@s...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Thanks, Kass.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dan
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 07:35:00 -0800
> (PST)
> > > > > > From: Kassidy Rae <valwp@y...>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Re: Dan, dirty ape
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Welcome Dan! Glad you are doing better.
> > > > > > Kass
>
>
>
>

__________________________________

.html

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim "apefan" [apefan23@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 2:52 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Dan, dirty ape

Helen...I found a 2nd cornelius and Zira on ebay for
20 bucks each! (I had to get 2 more to open them!!!)
Some store called "drtoyscloseouts" on ebay.....that's
half price!

Tim

.--- ape_mom <sand_hill_school@...> wrote:

>
> My mom and I actually went in [sort of] together on
> five...  I got
> the gorilla soldier, Taylor, Zira, Cornelius, and
> Zaius.  I really
> want to buy Ursus and I have an unexpected desire to
> grab a mutant. 
> BUT...  I'm on my own to do this and it's WAY too
> much money for me -
> - even here.  I've got three kids graduating high
> school this year
> and that means MORE expense, not less... 
>
> I hope they continue adding to the line, though.  It
> will be
> interesting to see how it fills out.  I'm surprised
> by the presence
> of so many new Apes at Toy Fair.
>
> I definitely want an Ursus, too.  But...  $$$.  I
> didn't find Ursus
> on the other Amoktime site.  I'll look there again
> before I buy.  I
> wonder when these will begin to show up on eBay for
> less money.
>
> Helen
>
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "canadianapefandan"
> <mystic4ever@s...> wrote:
> >
> > I think they're quite expensive, Helen, especially
> for us
> Canadians. 
> > They (SIDESHOW)only offer one method of shipping
> up here and it's
> > around $20.  Add the exchange rate and duty at
> customs and the
> only
> > one I've purchased to date (Gorilla Soldier) cost
> me around $80
> > Canadian.  That's a lot of bananas.
> >
> > I checked the site MTOTSKY suggested yesterday
> (thanks) and the
> Ursus
> > figure is a bit cheaper there, but then there's
> the shipping.
> >
> > So as much as I'd like to buy the works, I'm being
> selective for $
> > reasons, but Ursus is a must have for me.
> >
> > As for the other two new ones, Brent will probably
> sell well since
> > it's his first time in toy form (isn't it?) but
> I'm not so sure
> about
> > the Mutant.
> >
> > Have you been buying any?
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom"
> <sand_hill_school@y...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > :)  Just as much as I ever have!!  We haven't
> seen you in a
> while. 
> > > What have you been up to?  What's your opinion
> of the flood of
> > > Sideshow Apes figures? 
> > >
> > > Helen
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com,
> "canadianapefandan"
> > > <mystic4ever@s...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, Helen.
> > > >
> > > > You can see my face????
> > > >
> > > > =o)
> > > >
> > > > Dan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom"
> <sand_hill_school@y...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Welcome, Dan.  It's good to see your face.
> > > > >
> > > > > Helen
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "mystic4ever"
>
> <mystic4ever@s...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Thanks, Kass.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dan
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >      
> > > > > >    Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 07:35:00 -0800
> (PST)
> > > > > >    From: Kassidy Rae <valwp@y...>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Re: Dan, dirty ape
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Welcome Dan!  Glad you are doing better.
> > > > > > Kass
>
>
>
>



           
__________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Mail -

Yes I have gotten both of them and they were fine! And
it was cool finally getting to open them! The auctions
are gone now but I'm sure he has more....do a search
on ebay for "planet of the Apes sideshow zira" or
cornelius and then have them listed lowest price
first....!

Tim
--- "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...>
wrote:

> Hey Tim - did they come through OK?
>
> Can you send a LINK?!?!?!
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim "apefan" [apefan23@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 2:52 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Dan, dirty ape
>
>
> Helen...I found a 2nd cornelius and Zira on ebay for
> 20 bucks each! (I had to get 2 more to open them!!!)
> Some store called "drtoyscloseouts" on
> ebay.....that's
> half price!
>
> Tim
>
> .--- ape_mom <sand_hill_school@...> wrote:
>
> >
> > My mom and I actually went in [sort of] together
> on
> > five... I got
> > the gorilla soldier, Taylor, Zira, Cornelius, and
> > Zaius. I really
> > want to buy Ursus and I have an unexpected desire
> to
> > grab a mutant.
> > BUT... I'm on my own to do this and it's WAY too
> > much money for me -
> > - even here. I've got three kids graduating high
> > school this year
> > and that means MORE expense, not less...
> >
> > I hope they continue adding to the line, though.
> It
> > will be
> > interesting to see how it fills out. I'm
> surprised
> > by the presence
> > of so many new Apes at Toy Fair.
> >
> > I definitely want an Ursus, too. But... $$$. I
> > didn't find Ursus
> > on the other Amoktime site. I'll look there again
> > before I buy. I
> > wonder when these will begin to show up on eBay
> for
> > less money.
> >
> > Helen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "canadianapefandan"
>
> > <mystic4ever@s...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I think they're quite expensive, Helen,
> especially
> > for us
> > Canadians.
> > > They (SIDESHOW)only offer one method of shipping
> > up here and it's
> > > around $20. Add the exchange rate and duty at
> > customs and the
> > only
> > > one I've purchased to date (Gorilla Soldier)
> cost
> > me around $80
> > > Canadian. That's a lot of bananas.
> > >
> > > I checked the site MTOTSKY suggested yesterday
> > (thanks) and the
> > Ursus
> > > figure is a bit cheaper there, but then there's
> > the shipping.
> > >
> > > So as much as I'd like to buy the works, I'm
> being
> > selective for $
> > > reasons, but Ursus is a must have for me.
> > >
> > > As for the other two new ones, Brent will
> probably
> > sell well since
> > > it's his first time in toy form (isn't it?) but
> > I'm not so sure
> > about
> > > the Mutant.
> > >
> > > Have you been buying any?
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom"
> > <sand_hill_school@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > :) Just as much as I ever have!! We haven't
> > seen you in a
> > while.
> > > > What have you been up to? What's your opinion
> > of the flood of
> > > > Sideshow Apes figures?
> > > >
> > > > Helen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com,
> > "canadianapefandan"
> > > > <mystic4ever@s...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks, Helen.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can see my face????
> > > > >
> > > > > =o)
> > > > >
> > > > > Dan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom"
> > <sand_hill_school@y...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Welcome, Dan. It's good to see your face.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Helen
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com,
> "mystic4ever"
> >
> > <mystic4ever@s...>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Thanks, Kass.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 07:35:00 -0800
> > (PST)
> > > > > > > From: Kassidy Rae <valwp@y...>
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Re: Dan, dirty ape
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Welcome Dan! Glad you are doing better.
> > > > > > > Kass
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________
>
>

=== message truncated ===

.html.html In a message dated 2/22/2005 4:21:17 PM Central Standard Time, sand_hill_school@... writes:

I definitely want an Ursus, too.  But...  $$$.  I didn't find Ursus
on the other Amoktime site.  I'll look there again before I buy.  I
wonder when these will begin to show up on eBay for less money.

Probably a month or two after SideShow starts sending them out to the pre-order customers, just like now... Zira, Cornelius, Soldier, and original Zaius can all be found in the $20.00 range (not counting shipping)...

<.html <.html

.html.html In a message dated 2/22/2005 9:52:43 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

So I think that Zira and Corn created an EARLIER rebellion that that which was described BY Cornelius.

Bullsh*t... The ORIGINAL Aldo (not the BATTLE one) started the first rebellion (which led to the world of PLANET/BENEATH)... He is resposible for "jumpstarting" all we see in the first two films... The second ("new") timeline was "jumpstarted" by Zira and Cornelius' arrival back in "our time"... They never knew anything as far as their own child leading the new rebellion, etc. and to think otherwise is ridiculous to say the least... And as far as the BATTLE "Lawgiver" reading about Zira and Cornelius from the scrolls, that may be, BUT that is not the ORIGINAL (human hating) Lawgiver from the PLANET/BENEATH timeline anyway... The BATTLE Lawgiver is a new (unimproved) one, just as the time he is in is an all new timeline, with a whole new chain of events which may or may not lead to what was seen in the first two films...<.html <.html

.html

----- Original Message -----

From: mlccougar@...

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 8:53 PM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] "Aldo said no".

In a message dated 2/22/2005 9:52:43 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

So I think that Zira and Corn created an EARLIER rebellion that that which was described BY Cornelius.

Bullsh*t... The ORIGINAL Aldo (not the BATTLE one) started the first rebellion (which led to the world of PLANET/BENEATH)... He is resposible for "jumpstarting" all we see in the first two films... The second ("new") timeline was "jumpstarted" by Zira and Cornelius' arrival back in "our time"... They never knew anything as far as their own child leading the new rebellion, etc. and to think otherwise is ridiculous to say the least... And as far as the BATTLE "Lawgiver" reading about Zira and Cornelius from the scrolls, that may be, BUT that is not the ORIGINAL (human hating) Lawgiver from the PLANET/BENEATH timeline anyway... The BATTLE Lawgiver is a new (unimproved) one, just as the time he is in is an all new timeline, with a whole new chain of events which may or may not lead to what was seen in the first two films...

<.html

Oh, you can be as suspect as you want Rory.

 

I saw "Million Dollar Baby" last night.

 

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: Haristas@... [Haristas@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 1:45 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Purge

In a message dated 2/22/05 9:40:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

I'll be sending emails to any "suspect" members

Leve me alone!  I have a right to be suspect if I want to!

-- Rory

---

Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more.

.html <.html

.html <.html

I'm anxious to see how (and what) they do with this. Does anyone
here have pictures of their Muppets figures? (Maybe John?) Hey
that would be cool! If they're the same scale, you could
have "Muppets take Ape City," John! And Grover could be building
walls in front of the doomsday bomb!

Helen

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> Let's see what Palisades does with POTA. If they can get into a
groove of
> smaller, affordable figures like their "Muppets" maybe it'll be
like the
> Medicoms again. They produced quite a few different Muppets. Maybe
they'll
> do the characters we've wanted and we'll be able to afford them
(and can
> pick them out at Toys 'R Us). - - - Jeff
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 3:54 PM
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
>
>
> >
> >
> > Yeah. Hi John,
> >
> > Check out the letter. It would be really easy just print it
out --
> > or to add to it or change it a bit, and print it off, and send it
> > out. I've written a few emails to Sideshow, but never get a
> > response. I'm thinking that it's easier to send email, but also
> > easier for them to ignore it. Unless someone is keeping tally, I
> > assume the emails just get deleted and so do our requests.
Anyway,
> > a written letter, such as the one in the file, would make a
> > statement and, if there were enough of us, they might notice. It
> > would be great if you'd sign it, stamp it, and send it.
> >
> > My reservation is... I don't think Sideshow does a very good job
> > with the human likenesses. I guess we'll see what they do.
> >
> > Helen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@a...> wrote:
> > >
> > > The Sideshow figures are a little to much for me to be
spending on
> > > action figures (or so my wife tells me),hehehe, but I have been
> > > really impressed with what I've seen and I do hope the line
will
> > > continue to be successful. I'd love to see what they would do
with
> > > the TV show characters and I would gladly add my name to the
list
> > if
> > > you are going to petition Sideshow to do so.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

Already!? How do they do that? I guess I should scout that out!
Thanks, Tim!

Helen




--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@y...>
wrote:

> Helen...I found a 2nd cornelius and Zira on ebay for
> 20 bucks each! (I had to get 2 more to open them!!!)
> Some store called "drtoyscloseouts" on ebay.....that's
> half price!
>
> Tim
>
> .--- ape_mom <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
>
> >
> > My mom and I actually went in [sort of] together on
> > five... I got
> > the gorilla soldier, Taylor, Zira, Cornelius, and
> > Zaius. I really
> > want to buy Ursus and I have an unexpected desire to
> > grab a mutant.
> > BUT... I'm on my own to do this and it's WAY too
> > much money for me -
> > - even here. I've got three kids graduating high
> > school this year
> > and that means MORE expense, not less...
> >
> > I hope they continue adding to the line, though. It
> > will be
> > interesting to see how it fills out. I'm surprised
> > by the presence
> > of so many new Apes at Toy Fair.
> >
> > I definitely want an Ursus, too. But... $$$. I
> > didn't find Ursus
> > on the other Amoktime site. I'll look there again
> > before I buy. I
> > wonder when these will begin to show up on eBay for
> > less money.
> >
> > Helen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "canadianapefandan"
> > <mystic4ever@s...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I think they're quite expensive, Helen, especially
> > for us
> > Canadians.
> > > They (SIDESHOW)only offer one method of shipping
> > up here and it's
> > > around $20. Add the exchange rate and duty at
> > customs and the
> > only
> > > one I've purchased to date (Gorilla Soldier) cost
> > me around $80
> > > Canadian. That's a lot of bananas.
> > >
> > > I checked the site MTOTSKY suggested yesterday
> > (thanks) and the
> > Ursus
> > > figure is a bit cheaper there, but then there's
> > the shipping.
> > >
> > > So as much as I'd like to buy the works, I'm being
> > selective for $
> > > reasons, but Ursus is a must have for me.
> > >
> > > As for the other two new ones, Brent will probably
> > sell well since
> > > it's his first time in toy form (isn't it?) but
> > I'm not so sure
> > about
> > > the Mutant.
> > >
> > > Have you been buying any?
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom"
> > <sand_hill_school@y...>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > :) Just as much as I ever have!! We haven't
> > seen you in a
> > while.
> > > > What have you been up to? What's your opinion
> > of the flood of
> > > > Sideshow Apes figures?
> > > >
> > > > Helen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com,
> > "canadianapefandan"
> > > > <mystic4ever@s...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks, Helen.
> > > > >
> > > > > You can see my face????
> > > > >
> > > > > =o)
> > > > >
> > > > > Dan
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom"
> > <sand_hill_school@y...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Welcome, Dan. It's good to see your face.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Helen
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "mystic4ever"
> >
> > <mystic4ever@s...>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Thanks, Kass.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dan
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 07:35:00 -0800
> > (PST)
> > > > > > > From: Kassidy Rae <valwp@y...>
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Re: Dan, dirty ape
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Welcome Dan! Glad you are doing better.
> > > > > > > Kass
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________

Hi Michelle,

You mention the trips overseas with the USO. What a great thing to
be involved with. The best to you in Afganistan. What an amazing
trip that will be!

I understand the fascination with the eyes. In all the pictures, I
try to find the eye seams. Very impressive, indeed.

Helen



--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Michelle Juhlin <apeymisha@y...>
wrote:

>
> Hi Dave,
> Helen forwarded your questions to me, and I'll try to answer them

all.

> Being in the ape make-up is so much fun. And the kids are very

intrigued with the masks. I don't think we've scared too many,
mostly they're just fascinated with our eyes. Which most people
are. Brian Penekis, our make-up artist extroadinare does an amazing
job and you can't even see the seems between mask and the skin
around the eyes. So most people stare at our eyes. In the make-up
you have to be very expressive with the eyes and over-exaggerate
your facial muscles to show through the latex pieces.

> And yes, it is very liberating to be behind the mask. I

definately can open up and really take on the Dr. Zira personality.
The guys I work with are all incredibly professional but we do have
fun when we're together. Cornelius and I do get a little smoochy
sometimes. I mean I'm working with a bunch of guys, it does get a
little ape-dirty from time to time. :)

> England sounds wonderful, I've been all over Europe but haven't

been to England yet. Hopefully on my next trip.

> The audition I went on is still pending, and I don't know if you

would have seen me in much. I've done bit parts in soaps and TV
shows, but I mostly do theatre.

> The last 6 years I take a couple of trips a year overseas to

entertain our troops in the USO. We go to places like Bosnia,
Kosovi, Macedonia, Germany, Austria and such. This year we'll be
going to Afganistan. I'm very excited about this. I know it's
dangerous, but it's history and this is my small way to help the
troops over there. We perform an interactive, fun play for them.

> Thanks for your interest in what we do. I have such a blast doing

it. Hopefully Fox will need us for more things to come. We've had
some incredible experiences from meeting John Chambers a few times,
some in make-up and some without. It was such a thrill and he was
just so happy that we were carrying on his legacy. We also got to
meet Kim Hunter, Roddy McDowall and Charleton Heston. It's been a
great journey.

> Hope this answers your questions and thanks again for loving what

we do.

> Michelle (ape-mania's Dr. Zira)

This is where they could get me collecting new figures again. As
strange as it sounds, $50 for 5 figures I can pick up at Toys r us or
Suncoast, both me and my Wife can deal with. But, $50 for for one 12
in. figure that comes in the mail(that I'll never open), ain't gonna
happen. I bought 1 full set of the Medicom figures from Suncoast that
I have pegged up in my "playroom". I also bought another 10 or so
that me and my son play with. Being able to space out my purchases
and having more to show for it just makes sense. $50 can get some
cool classic 70's APES stuff on ebay ya know.

I already have it all planned out where the Mutants use the Muppets
as part of there "visual deterrent" and then.... I mean I can't wait
to get these for my son to play with.

.html.html In a message dated 2/22/05 10:34:29 PM Eastern Standard Time, JLKINSER1970@... writes:

For
instance, we know in Battle that Cornelius and Zira traveling
through time and escaping the earths destruction was told in the
scrolls because the Lawgiver is reading it from the scroll. We also
know Caesar is mentioned in the scrolls.
I have always thought Cornelius and Zira knew of Caesar and Aldo and
the events of Battle from the scrolls.

Oh brother... here we go again...

There are TWO timelines.  When Zira and Cornelius went back to 1973 they changed events that would lead to the planet of the apes.  The lawgiver in BATTLE is the same Lawgiver of PLANET, but a different Lawgiver because the history that went before him is change from the original timeline that lead to the planet of the apes that Taylor landed on.

-- Rory<.html <.html

I still wish Todd McFarlane could get his hands on an ape license.
His toys look impeccable.

Dan

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> Let's see what Palisades does with POTA. If they can get into a
groove of
> smaller, affordable figures like their "Muppets" maybe it'll be
like the
> Medicoms again. They produced quite a few different Muppets. Maybe
they'll
> do the characters we've wanted and we'll be able to afford them
(and can
> pick them out at Toys 'R Us). - - - Jeff
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 3:54 PM
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
>
>
> >
> >
> > Yeah. Hi John,
> >
> > Check out the letter. It would be really easy just print it out -
-
> > or to add to it or change it a bit, and print it off, and send it
> > out. I've written a few emails to Sideshow, but never get a
> > response. I'm thinking that it's easier to send email, but also
> > easier for them to ignore it. Unless someone is keeping tally, I
> > assume the emails just get deleted and so do our requests.
Anyway,
> > a written letter, such as the one in the file, would make a
> > statement and, if there were enough of us, they might notice. It
> > would be great if you'd sign it, stamp it, and send it.
> >
> > My reservation is... I don't think Sideshow does a very good job
> > with the human likenesses. I guess we'll see what they do.
> >
> > Helen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@a...> wrote:
> > >
> > > The Sideshow figures are a little to much for me to be spending
on
> > > action figures (or so my wife tells me),hehehe, but I have been
> > > really impressed with what I've seen and I do hope the line will
> > > continue to be successful. I'd love to see what they would do
with
> > > the TV show characters and I would gladly add my name to the
list
> > if
> > > you are going to petition Sideshow to do so.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

Here's a review of series 10 of the Muppets from Palisades.
http://www.mwctoys.com/REVIEW_121004a.htm - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@...>
To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:23 AM
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG


>
>
> I'm anxious to see how (and what) they do with this. Does anyone
> here have pictures of their Muppets figures? (Maybe John?) Hey
> that would be cool! If they're the same scale, you could
> have "Muppets take Ape City," John! And Grover could be building
> walls in front of the doomsday bomb!
>
> Helen
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> > Let's see what Palisades does with POTA. If they can get into a
> groove of
> > smaller, affordable figures like their "Muppets" maybe it'll be
> like the
> > Medicoms again. They produced quite a few different Muppets. Maybe
> they'll
> > do the characters we've wanted and we'll be able to afford them
> (and can
> > pick them out at Toys 'R Us). - - - Jeff
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> > To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 3:54 PM
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yeah. Hi John,
> > >
> > > Check out the letter. It would be really easy just print it
> out --
> > > or to add to it or change it a bit, and print it off, and send it
> > > out. I've written a few emails to Sideshow, but never get a
> > > response. I'm thinking that it's easier to send email, but also
> > > easier for them to ignore it. Unless someone is keeping tally, I
> > > assume the emails just get deleted and so do our requests.
> Anyway,
> > > a written letter, such as the one in the file, would make a
> > > statement and, if there were enough of us, they might notice. It
> > > would be great if you'd sign it, stamp it, and send it.
> > >
> > > My reservation is... I don't think Sideshow does a very good job
> > > with the human likenesses. I guess we'll see what they do.
> > >
> > > Helen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@a...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Sideshow figures are a little to much for me to be
> spending on
> > > > action figures (or so my wife tells me),hehehe, but I have been
> > > > really impressed with what I've seen and I do hope the line
> will
> > > > continue to be successful. I'd love to see what they would do
> with
> > > > the TV show characters and I would gladly add my name to the
> list
> > > if
> > > > you are going to petition Sideshow to do so.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

I don't know why McFarlane didn't grab the POTA license before Palisades
did. He's a big fan. He threatened to do a TV show based on it just to get
Fox to finally do the remake. They announced Broyles was writing the script
about a week later. - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----
From: "canadianapefandan" <mystic4ever@...>
To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 7:08 AM
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG


>
>
> I still wish Todd McFarlane could get his hands on an ape license.
> His toys look impeccable.
>
> Dan
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> > Let's see what Palisades does with POTA. If they can get into a
> groove of
> > smaller, affordable figures like their "Muppets" maybe it'll be
> like the
> > Medicoms again. They produced quite a few different Muppets. Maybe
> they'll
> > do the characters we've wanted and we'll be able to afford them
> (and can
> > pick them out at Toys 'R Us). - - - Jeff
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> > To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 3:54 PM
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yeah. Hi John,
> > >
> > > Check out the letter. It would be really easy just print it out -
> -
> > > or to add to it or change it a bit, and print it off, and send it
> > > out. I've written a few emails to Sideshow, but never get a
> > > response. I'm thinking that it's easier to send email, but also
> > > easier for them to ignore it. Unless someone is keeping tally, I
> > > assume the emails just get deleted and so do our requests.
> Anyway,
> > > a written letter, such as the one in the file, would make a
> > > statement and, if there were enough of us, they might notice. It
> > > would be great if you'd sign it, stamp it, and send it.
> > >
> > > My reservation is... I don't think Sideshow does a very good job
> > > with the human likenesses. I guess we'll see what they do.
> > >
> > > Helen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@a...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > The Sideshow figures are a little to much for me to be spending
> on
> > > > action figures (or so my wife tells me),hehehe, but I have been
> > > > really impressed with what I've seen and I do hope the line will
> > > > continue to be successful. I'd love to see what they would do
> with
> > > > the TV show characters and I would gladly add my name to the
> list
> > > if
> > > > you are going to petition Sideshow to do so.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

.html I just bought a wookie warrior figure in Walmart, it was the last one. The movie is not even out yet.(Star Wars-Revenge of the Sith). Elaine<.html

Hi Michelle,

You mention the trips overseas with the USO.  What a great thing to
be involved with.  The best to you in Afganistan.  What an amazing
trip that will be!

I understand the fascination with the eyes.  In all the pictures, I
try to find the eye seams.  Very impressive, indeed.

Helen



--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Michelle Juhlin <apeymisha@y...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
> Helen forwarded your questions to me, and I'll try to answer them
all.
> Being in the ape make-up is so much fun.  And the kids are very
intrigued with the masks.  I don't think we've scared too many,
mostly they're just fascinated with our eyes.  Which most people
are.  Brian Penekis, our make-up artist extroadinare does an amazing
job and you can't even see the seems between mask and the skin
around the eyes.  So most people stare at our eyes.  In the make-up
you have to be very expressive with the eyes and over-exaggerate
your facial muscles to show through the latex pieces.
> And yes, it is very liberating to be behind the mask.  I
definately can open up and really take on the Dr. Zira personality. 
The guys I work with are all incredibly professional but we do have
fun when we're together.  Cornelius and I do get a little smoochy
sometimes. I mean I'm working with a bunch of guys, it does get a
little ape-dirty from time to time.  :)
> England sounds wonderful, I've been all over Europe but haven't
been to England yet.  Hopefully on my next trip.
> The audition I went on is still pending, and I don't know if you
would have seen me in much.  I've done bit parts in soaps and TV
shows, but I mostly do theatre.
> The last 6 years I take a couple of trips a year overseas to
entertain our troops in the USO.  We go to places like Bosnia,
Kosovi, Macedonia, Germany, Austria and such.  This year we'll be
going to Afganistan.  I'm very excited about this.  I know it's
dangerous, but it's history and this is my small way to help the
troops over there.  We perform an interactive, fun play for them.
> Thanks for your interest in what we do.  I have such a blast doing
it.  Hopefully Fox will need us for more things to come.  We've had
some incredible experiences from meeting John Chambers a few times,
some in make-up and some without.  It was such a thrill and he was
just so happy that we were carrying on his legacy.  We also got to
meet Kim Hunter, Roddy McDowall and Charleton Heston.  It's been a
great journey.
> Hope this answers your questions and thanks again for loving what
we do.
> Michelle (ape-mania's Dr. Zira)

Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around

Hi Greg. "Oops!" As you will have guessed, you've been kept locked
up in the cage. Lucius just went through with the necessary papers
to get you released...

RUN!!!

Helen

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
> I found some additional shots of the Sideshow Apes figures on
Rebelscum.com, starting with this one:
>
> http://toyfair.rebelscum.com/2005/miscSideshow/image1.asp
>
> Greg P.

Thanks, Greg! WOW! They have quite a selection!

News Flash!! Sesame Street is coming!! There will be a Grover, in
a new timeline, to protect us from the Doomsday Bomb! "Don't turn
the page! There's a bomb at the end of this book!!" -- Grover,
Beneath the Planet of the Apes
http://www.palisadestoys.com/features/SesameStreet/SesameStreet.html"


Helen

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
> Helen:
>
> You can see pictures of all of the Muppet figures on the Palisades
Toys site:
>
> http://www.palisadestoys.com/features/Muppets/muppet_main.html"
>
> My wife has quite a few of these. They're nicely done and well
detailed. The playsets they do look really good, too.
>
> Palisades usually has a booth at all of the major comic cons, so
hopefully they'll be more news and maybe some prototypes later this
year.
>
> Greg P.
>
> ape_mom <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
>
>
> I'm anxious to see how (and what) they do with this. Does anyone
> here have pictures of their Muppets figures? (Maybe John?) Hey
> that would be cool! If they're the same scale, you could
> have "Muppets take Ape City," John! And Grover could be building
> walls in front of the doomsday bomb!
>
> Helen

Haha. I should have read this first! I looked all over Palisades
to find out if they did Sesame Street, and it's right here! I
really like these. They mention Target on the Palisades site. I've
never been to Target, but can't you order from them on-line? Great
pictures and a good reveiw from our favorite toy man.

Helen

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> Here's a review of series 10 of the Muppets from Palisades.
> http://www.mwctoys.com/REVIEW_121004a.htm - - - Jeff
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:23 AM
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
>
>
> >
> >
> > I'm anxious to see how (and what) they do with this. Does
anyone
> > here have pictures of their Muppets figures? (Maybe John?) Hey
> > that would be cool! If they're the same scale, you could
> > have "Muppets take Ape City," John! And Grover could be
building
> > walls in front of the doomsday bomb!
> >
> > Helen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, <veetus@e...> wrote:
> > > Let's see what Palisades does with POTA. If they can get
into a
> > groove of
> > > smaller, affordable figures like their "Muppets" maybe it'll
be
> > like the
> > > Medicoms again. They produced quite a few different Muppets.
Maybe
> > they'll
> > > do the characters we've wanted and we'll be able to afford
them
> > (and can
> > > pick them out at Toys 'R Us). - - - Jeff
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
> > > To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 3:54 PM
> > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yeah. Hi John,
> > > >
> > > > Check out the letter. It would be really easy just print it
> > out --
> > > > or to add to it or change it a bit, and print it off, and
send it
> > > > out. I've written a few emails to Sideshow, but never get a
> > > > response. I'm thinking that it's easier to send email, but
also
> > > > easier for them to ignore it. Unless someone is keeping
tally, I
> > > > assume the emails just get deleted and so do our requests.
> > Anyway,
> > > > a written letter, such as the one in the file, would make a
> > > > statement and, if there were enough of us, they might
notice. It
> > > > would be great if you'd sign it, stamp it, and send it.
> > > >
> > > > My reservation is... I don't think Sideshow does a very
good job
> > > > with the human likenesses. I guess we'll see what they do.
> > > >
> > > > Helen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@a...>
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The Sideshow figures are a little to much for me to be
> > spending on
> > > > > action figures (or so my wife tells me),hehehe, but I have
been
> > > > > really impressed with what I've seen and I do hope the
line
> > will
> > > > > continue to be successful. I'd love to see what they would
do
> > with
> > > > > the TV show characters and I would gladly add my name to
the
> > list
> > > > if
> > > > > you are going to petition Sideshow to do so.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >

.html <.html

Hello,

If anyone is seriously interested in Mego Apes on Palitoy cards,
please drop me a line. I know of a person looking to sell Urko and
Ursus. He has more than one.

Thanks!
Brian

Relax, it is just a movie. LOL!!!



-- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 2/22/2005 9:52:43 PM Central Standard Time,
> Michael.Whitty@d... writes:
>
> > So I think that Zira and Corn created an EARLIER rebellion that

that which

> > was described BY Cornelius.
>
> Bullsh*t... The ORIGINAL Aldo (not the BATTLE one) started the

first

> rebellion (which led to the world of PLANET/BENEATH)... He is

resposible for

> "jumpstarting" all we see in the first two films... The second

("new") timeline was

> "jumpstarted" by Zira and Cornelius' arrival back in "our time"...

They never

> knew anything as far as their own child leading the new rebellion,

etc. and to

> think otherwise is ridiculous to say the least... And as far as

the BATTLE

> "Lawgiver" reading about Zira and Cornelius from the scrolls, that

may be, BUT that

> is not the ORIGINAL (human hating) Lawgiver from the

PLANET/BENEATH timeline

> anyway... The BATTLE Lawgiver is a new (unimproved) one, just as

the time he

> is in is an all new timeline, with a whole new chain of events

which may or may

> not lead to what was seen in the first two films...

How about this;
There is no time line, It isn't real; it is a movie or movies. LOL!!!


In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 2/22/05 10:34:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> JLKINSER1970@h... writes:
>
>
> > For
> > instance, we know in Battle that Cornelius and Zira traveling
> > through time and escaping the earths destruction was told in the
> > scrolls because the Lawgiver is reading it from the scroll. We

also

> > know Caesar is mentioned in the scrolls.
> > I have always thought Cornelius and Zira knew of Caesar and Aldo

and

> > the events of Battle from the scrolls.
>
> Oh brother... here we go again...
>
> There are TWO timelines. When Zira and Cornelius went back to

1973 they

> changed events that would lead to the planet of the apes. The

lawgiver in BATTLE

> is the same Lawgiver of PLANET, but a different Lawgiver because

the history

> that went before him is change from the original timeline that

lead to the

> planet of the apes that Taylor landed on.
>
> -- Rory

.html

-----Original Message-----
From: luke_the_drifter52 [JLKINSER1970@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 10:30 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: "Aldo said no".

How about this;
There is no time line, It isn't real; it is a movie or movies. LOL!!!


In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 2/22/05 10:34:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> JLKINSER1970@h... writes:
>
>
> > For
> > instance, we know in Battle that Cornelius and Zira traveling
> > through time and escaping the earths destruction was told in the
> > scrolls because the Lawgiver is reading it from the scroll. We
also
> > know Caesar is mentioned in the scrolls.
> > I have always thought Cornelius and Zira knew of Caesar and Aldo
and
> > the events of Battle from the scrolls.
>
> Oh brother... here we go again...
>
> There are TWO timelines.  When Zira and Cornelius went back to
1973 they
> changed events that would lead to the planet of the apes.  The
lawgiver in BATTLE
> is the same Lawgiver of PLANET, but a different Lawgiver because
the history
> that went before him is change from the original timeline that
lead to the
> planet of the apes that Taylor landed on.
>
> -- Rory

I agree. You guys are starting to sound like Star Trek nerds who
analyze way to close and suck all the fun out of Sci-fi. It is
supposed to be just entertainment. Let it go. None of the Apes
timelines for the movies or TV shows really work if you look at them
too close. I think too many people helped to bring these stories
together, so like any good myth, the details change depending on
where you are getting them from. Nobody is definitley right or wrong.
This is something I had to come to grips with once I started to give
Fanfic a chance. As long as the outcome leaves us entertained for a
small period of time, its all good.

.html

-----Original Message-----
From: John [DrZaiusDavis@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 10:51 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: "Aldo said no".

I agree. You guys are starting to sound like Star Trek nerds who
analyze way to close and suck all the fun out of Sci-fi. It is
supposed to be just entertainment. Let it go. None of the Apes
timelines for the movies or TV shows really work if you look at them
too close. I think too many people helped to bring these stories
together, so like any good myth, the details change depending on
where you are getting them from. Nobody is definitley right or wrong.
This is something I had to come to grips with once I started to give
Fanfic a chance. As long as the outcome leaves us entertained for a
small period of time, its all good.

<.html

So when are you going to post the last instalment of the "Within"
comic? I didn't want to say too much about it and ruin the surprise
for those who may not have read and responded to the email, but I'm
dying to hear what everyone thinks. Or is this the way we are going
to get the future instalments? Just another way for you to drag it
out longer and drive us insane. hehehe

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
group.

File : /Within the Planet of the Apes/Chapter28.gif
Uploaded by : munkeyman63au <nfoster@...>
Description : Chapters 25, 26, 27 & 28

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Within%20the%20Planet%20of%20the%20Apes/Chapter28.gif

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

Regards,

munkeyman63au <nfoster@...>

.html

-----Original Message-----
From: John [DrZaiusDavis@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 10:59 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Within Comic

So when are you going to post the last instalment of the "Within"
comic? I didn't want to say too much about it and ruin the surprise
for those who may not have read and responded to the email, but I'm
dying to hear what everyone thinks. Or is this the way we are going
to get the future instalments? Just another way for you to drag it
out longer and drive us insane. hehehe

<.html

Wow, that is deep; and totaly correct!!!
I like the way you put it!!!
John


- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@a...> wrote:

>
> I agree. You guys are starting to sound like Star Trek nerds who
> analyze way to close and suck all the fun out of Sci-fi. It is
> supposed to be just entertainment. Let it go. None of the Apes
> timelines for the movies or TV shows really work if you look at

them

> too close. I think too many people helped to bring these stories
> together, so like any good myth, the details change depending on
> where you are getting them from. Nobody is definitley right or

wrong.

> This is something I had to come to grips with once I started to

give

> Fanfic a chance. As long as the outcome leaves us entertained for

a

> small period of time, its all good.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "John" <DrZaiusDavis@a...> wrote:

>
> I agree. You guys are starting to sound like Star Trek nerds who
> analyze way to close and suck all the fun out of Sci-fi. It is
> supposed to be just entertainment. Let it go. None of the Apes
> timelines for the movies or TV shows really work if you look at

them

> too close. I think too many people helped to bring these stories
> together, so like any good myth, the details change depending on
> where you are getting them from. Nobody is definitley right or

wrong.

> This is something I had to come to grips with once I started to

give

> Fanfic a chance. As long as the outcome leaves us entertained for

a

> small period of time, its all good.

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
group.

  File        : /Within the Planet of the Apes/Chapter28.gif
  Uploaded by : munkeyman63au <nfoster@...>
  Description : Chapters 25, 26, 27 & 28

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Within%20the%20Planet%20of%20the%20Apes/Chapter28.gif

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

Regards,

munkeyman63au <nfoster@...>

What?!?!?! Someone start my heart!!! This is awful!!

Helen



--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> Hi John.
>
> We'll be uploading it soon.
>
> Please go ahead and say something - isn't that a lovely shot (no

pun

> intended)?
>
> Yes there ia new venue coming but it's a secret!
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John [DrZaiusDavis@a...]
> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 10:59 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Within Comic
>
>
>
> So when are you going to post the last instalment of the "Within"
> comic? I didn't want to say too much about it and ruin the

surprise

> for those who may not have read and responded to the email, but

I'm

> dying to hear what everyone thinks. Or is this the way we are

going

> to get the future instalments? Just another way for you to drag it
> out longer and drive us insane. hehehe
>
>
>

.html

-----Original Message-----
From: ape_mom [sand_hill_school@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:17 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Within Comic

What?!?!?!  Someone start my heart!!!  This is awful!!

Helen



--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> Hi John.
> 
> We'll be uploading it soon.
> 
> Please go ahead and say something - isn't that a lovely shot (no
pun
> intended)?
> 
> Yes there ia new venue coming but it's a secret!
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John [DrZaiusDavis@a...]
> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 10:59 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Within Comic
>
>
>
> So when are you going to post the last instalment of the "Within"
> comic? I didn't want to say too much about it and ruin the
surprise
> for those who may not have read and responded to the email, but
I'm
> dying to hear what everyone thinks. Or is this the way we are
going
> to get the future instalments? Just another way for you to drag it
> out longer and drive us insane. hehehe

<.html

Well, it looks like Ape has killed Ape!!!
John

-- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:

>
> What?!?!?! Someone start my heart!!! This is awful!!
>
> Helen
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
> <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> > Hi John.
> >
> > We'll be uploading it soon.
> >
> > Please go ahead and say something - isn't that a lovely shot (no
> pun
> > intended)?
> >
> > Yes there ia new venue coming but it's a secret!
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John [DrZaiusDavis@a...]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 10:59 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Within Comic
> >
> >
> >
> > So when are you going to post the last instalment of

the "Within"

> > comic? I didn't want to say too much about it and ruin the
> surprise
> > for those who may not have read and responded to the email, but
> I'm
> > dying to hear what everyone thinks. Or is this the way we are
> going
> > to get the future instalments? Just another way for you to drag

it

> > out longer and drive us insane. hehehe
> >
> >
> >

I'm all for having a theory or pondering the story but once it gets
to be pointing fingers and "I'm right and your stupid", I'm out. I
used to think like that but I've come to realize I didn't create
these characters or these stories (though I love them like they were
mine) so I really don't KNOW for a fact that anyones idea is wrong. I
may not agree with where somebody is taking the story or how they
interpreted the story, but its Sci-Fi and that's what makes it great.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> We'll be uploading it soon.

-- Just did, the whole page with chapter 28 on it is now in the
Within folder, or just click the link on the Home Page!

Neil

.html

-----Original Message-----
From: luke_the_drifter52 [JLKINSER1970@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:18 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Within Comic

Well, it looks like Ape has killed Ape!!!
John

-- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...>
wrote:
>
> What?!?!?!  Someone start my heart!!!  This is awful!!
>
> Helen
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
> <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> > Hi John.
> > 
> > We'll be uploading it soon.
> > 
> > Please go ahead and say something - isn't that a lovely shot (no
> pun
> > intended)?
> > 
> > Yes there ia new venue coming but it's a secret!
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John [DrZaiusDavis@a...]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 10:59 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Within Comic
> >
> >
> >
> > So when are you going to post the last instalment of
the "Within"
> > comic? I didn't want to say too much about it and ruin the
> surprise
> > for those who may not have read and responded to the email, but
> I'm
> > dying to hear what everyone thinks. Or is this the way we are
> going
> > to get the future instalments? Just another way for you to drag
it
> > out longer and drive us insane. hehehe

<.html

.html

-----Original Message-----
From: John [DrZaiusDavis@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:19 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: "John said D'oh!".

I'm all for having a theory or pondering the story but once it gets
to be pointing fingers and "I'm right and your stupid", I'm out. I
used to think like that but I've come to realize I didn't create
these characters or these stories (though I love them like they were
mine) so I really don't KNOW for a fact that anyones idea is wrong. I
may not agree with where somebody is taking the story or how they
interpreted the story, but its Sci-Fi and that's what makes it great.

<.html

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "John" <DrZaiusDavis@a...> wrote:

>I'm all for having a theory or pondering the story but once it gets

to be pointing fingers and "I'm right and your stupid", I'm out. I
used to think like that but I've come to realize I didn't create
these characters or these stories (though I love them like they were
mine) so I really don't KNOW for a fact that anyones idea is wrong. I
may not agree with where somebody is taking the story or how they
interpreted the story, but its Sci-Fi and that's what makes it great.

--Well said!

Neil

Damn. You guys got the new strip posted almost before I had finished
typing the request. So, here's a list of other things I want--
Just kidding. Dr. Zaius is so scared of the ape population finding
the truth about man that he is willing to let Ursus break their most
sacred law! It's pretty shocking but it makes sense. I don't think
Zaius would ever be able to to it himself but he is quick to have
others sent directly to ape hell.

.html

-----Original Message-----
From: John [DrZaiusDavis@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:34 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] wish list

Damn. You guys got the new strip posted almost before I had finished
typing the request. So, here's a list of other things I want--
Just kidding.    Dr. Zaius is so scared of the ape population finding
the truth about man that he is willing to let Ursus break their most
sacred law! It's pretty shocking but it makes sense. I don't think
Zaius would ever be able to to it himself but he is quick to have
others sent directly to ape hell.

<.html

.html.html In a message dated 2/23/05 4:11:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

I will be there to encouage Peter to get a new POTA movie underway.

Please forward to me any comments/questions you think might help.

Michael

Don't get your hopes up mate.

-- Rory<.html <.html

.html

-----Original Message-----
From: Haristas@... [Haristas@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:40 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: An Evening With Peter Jackson.

In a message dated 2/23/05 4:11:26 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

I will be there to encouage Peter to get a new POTA movie underway.

Please forward to me any comments/questions you think might help.

Michael

Don't get your hopes up mate.

-- Rory

<.html

.html.html In a message dated 2/23/05 6:35:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, JLKINSER1970@... writes:

Relax, it is just a movie. LOL!!!

POTA just a movie?!!!!

What planet are you from?

-- Rory
<.html<.html

.html.html In a message dated 2/23/05 6:37:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, JLKINSER1970@... writes:

How about this;
There is no time line, It isn't real; it is a movie or movies. LOL!!!

How about this:

LOL yourself to death!  And the sooner the better!  LOL!

-- Rory<.html <.html

.html.html In a message dated 2/23/05 6:54:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, DrZaiusDavis@... writes:

I agree. You guys are starting to sound like Star Trek nerds

I am a Star Trek nerd!

Have I got to start kicking some monkey ass around here?

-- Rory<.html <.html

.html

-----Original Message-----
From: Haristas@... [Haristas@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:45 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: "Aldo said no".

In a message dated 2/23/05 6:35:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, JLKINSER1970@... writes:

Relax, it is just a movie. LOL!!!

POTA just a movie?!!!!

What planet are you from?

-- Rory

<.html

.html

In a message dated 2/23/05 6:37:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, JLKINSER1970@... writes:

How about this;
There is no time line, It isn't real; it is a movie or movies. LOL!!!

How about this:

LOL yourself to death!  And the sooner the better!  LOL!

-- Rory

<.html

.html

-----Original Message-----
From: Haristas@... [Haristas@...]
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:47 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: "Aldo said no".

In a message dated 2/23/05 6:54:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, DrZaiusDavis@... writes:

I agree. You guys are starting to sound like Star Trek nerds

I am a Star Trek nerd!

Have I got to start kicking some monkey ass around here?

-- Rory

<.html

After Beneath -- like in a new timeline created by ___________(fill
in the blank).

Helen


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> I know these discussions do sound a bit nerdy, but the main reason

I start

> the threads is to get feedback so I know what I can and can't do

with the

> characters.
>
> It would have been nice if SOME thought had gone into these

movies - hey,

> maybe it did and the answer was always "but that's ok I don't

CARE!".

>
> Anyway - how much could you enjoy "within" if I told you it was

set after

> Beneath (ie after the workld is destroyed)? ;)
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Haristas@a... [Haristas@a...]
> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:45 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: "Aldo said no".
>
>
> In a message dated 2/23/05 6:35:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> JLKINSER1970@h... writes:
>
>
>
>
> Relax, it is just a movie. LOL!!!
>
>
>
> POTA just a movie?!!!!
>
> What planet are you from?
>
> -- Rory
>
>