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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> Ummm......hmmm......ahhhhh....did you say 2 strips........?  :)

 

--Yep, and like I said I still have to add all the words and stuff.

 

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: Neil T Foster [nfoster@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 12:04 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Politics to All

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> Not just that, but the HYPOCRISY of it! Hunter object to POLITICS!  So if I make a comment (a FACT) about someone he likes, he plays POLITICS! And don't worry - he's not the only one!

 

Too right. Looks like one of our other regular 'quitters' doesn't like politics (or maybe the truth) as they have just this minute left the group without even the decency of an explanation.

 

These people are so predictable!

 

Neil

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See, your having to waste time putting in words and stuff to
incorporate Michael's eloborate story. Should have went for the
mindless violence route with graphic art like I told ya. Violent ape
vs. Human war = Great comic art in half the time... just kidding
Michael. I don't want you mad at me too. hehehe

Your not gonna be able to get rid of me that easy. I'm in for the long
haul. No matter who you piss off!

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-----Original Message-----
From: John [DrZaiusDavis@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 12:20 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: This is the end..................

Your not gonna be able to get rid of me that easy. I'm in for the long
haul. No matter who you piss off!

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-----Original Message-----
From: Neil T Foster [nfoster@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 12:19 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: This is the end..................

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> Neil?

 

-- Yes the card idea is a good one. Once again though, would it be worth the time and effort?

 

Neil

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It should work that way. If Star Wars or Star Trek fans feud amongest
themselves its no big deal cause there are millons of them to divide.
But with such a small group of truly talented fans to contribute to
projects dealing with Planet of the Apes every person is important and
their loss can usually be felt. I wish there was a way to heal old
wounds and get everyone united against our common enemy.... the
People's front of Judia, I mean the United People's front, anyway I
was starting to get too serious for my own taste. Piss on them all!
APE ANARCHY!!!!

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-----Original Message-----
From: John [DrZaiusDavis@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 12:35 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: This is the end..................

It should work that way. If Star Wars or Star Trek fans feud amongest
themselves its no big deal cause there are millons of them to divide.
But with such a small group of truly talented fans to contribute to
projects dealing with Planet of the Apes every person is important and
their loss can usually be felt. I wish there was a way to heal old
wounds and get everyone united against our common enemy.... the
People's front of Judia, I mean the United People's front, anyway I
was starting to get too serious for my own taste. Piss on them all!
APE ANARCHY!!!!

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yes, he's sitting over there.... SPLITTER!!!!!

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Yes - you're all just VERY lucky Greg is simply doing them for the pleasure - that usually stinks of compromise but with Greg he delivers better than any card company I've experienced.

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-----Original Message-----
From: mlccougar@... [mlccougar@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 1:31 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Thanks to Hunter

In a message dated 4/6/2005 8:11:01 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Yes - you're all just VERY lucky Greg is simply doing them for the pleasure - that usually stinks of compromise but with Greg he delivers better than any card company I've experienced.

That's very true... His BENEATH "set" was great, and I am sure the ESCAPE set is just as good... He should be working with RITTENHOUSE on these...

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In a message dated 4/6/2005 7:52:34 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

And nobody seems to want to contribute as much as they should.

 

How much do you need?

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 1:32 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] This is the end?

In a message dated 4/6/2005 7:52:34 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

And nobody seems to want to contribute as much as they should.

 

How much do you need?

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In a message dated 4/6/2005 7:55:53 P.M. Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

-- Like I said in an earlier post, it is not praise we were after, we were trying to generate some new discussion on things that have not been discussed

 

Do you want us to speculate on the direction the story will go?

Or comment on the direction it's going?

Or suggest stuff?

You have to tell us what you want.

We're not mind readers.

I think this group is capable

of flogging any dead horse.

They've proved that time after time.

 

 

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 1:36 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: This is the end?

In a message dated 4/6/2005 7:55:53 P.M. Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

-- Like I said in an earlier post, it is not praise we were after, we were trying to generate some new discussion on things that have not been discussed

 

Do you want us to speculate on the direction the story will go?

Or comment on the direction it's going?

Or suggest stuff?

You have to tell us what you want.

We're not mind readers.

I think this group is capable

of flogging any dead horse.

They've proved that time after time.

 

 

 

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In a message dated 4/6/2005 7:59:19 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

He hosts all the great stuff we provide him with, but nothing is reciprocated.

I try not to go there.

He's at geocities

or goatly.com or something

that starts with G.  I like to

have Google pop up with 1

key stroke.  Sorry.

 

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Its a shame that with such a small fanbase in the realm of Sci-Fi that we Planet of the Apes fans can't stick together and have become divided amongest
ourselves. With so many talented people, if united maybe we could get
POTA the respect it deserves as the pioneer in the realm of science
fiction.

Very True again!!!!

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In a message dated 4/6/2005 8:16:34 P.M. Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

THAT is what POTA is saying to me - get along, get on, or all be
destroyed.

 

I don't mind the bitching.

If someone is bitching because they

think someone is wrong and they want

to correct it?  Bitch away!  As long as they're

sure of their facts.  And if they're wrong in their

correction, expect a bitch back.

 

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.html.html In a message dated 4/6/2005 8:32:03 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

We lack the hype of consistent commercial campaigns - in my opinion!

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          That true. But the fans of Star Wars and the trekkies shows up at these comic and sci-fi conventions either in costume or not and these movie executives see that. I was at a convention in San Diego and I chatted with a couple of artists  and some of them were interested in the fan club, but we need to be more committed. We need to show up in force at these comic and sci-fi convention so that these studio executives at Fox would recognize us. We either show up at these conventions and reason with these Fox executives to put more Apes on the screen.

 

This is my opinion

Kevin (PofTAfan) 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PofTAfan@... [PofTAfan@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 2:04 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Abuse to Hunter

          That true. But the fans of Star Wars and the trekkies shows up at these comic and sci-fi conventions either in costume or not and these movie executives see that. I was at a convention in San Diego and I chatted with a couple of artists  and some of them were interested in the fan club, but we need to be more committed. We need to show up in force at these comic and sci-fi convention so that these studio executives at Fox would recognize us. We either show up at these conventions and reason with these Fox executives to put more Apes on the screen.

 

This is my opinion

Kevin (PofTAfan) 

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In a message dated 4/6/2005 11:07:08 P.M. Central Standard Time, PofTAfan@... writes:

          That true. But the fans of Star Wars and the trekkies shows up at these comic and sci-fi conventions either in costume or not and these movie executives see that.

 

I'm sorry, but there's no way I'm going to dress

like I'm in an 80 Eurofag Band, especially in

public.  If there's one flaw in BB it was the

style.  It wasn't exactly the height of fashion,

even back in '84.  Way too Adam Ant for me.

I swear The HKC made Prince look masculine!

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 2:58 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Abuse to Hunter

In a message dated 4/6/2005 11:07:08 P.M. Central Standard Time, PofTAfan@... writes:

          That true. But the fans of Star Wars and the trekkies shows up at these comic and sci-fi conventions either in costume or not and these movie executives see that.

 

I'm sorry, but there's no way I'm going to dress

like I'm in an 80 Eurofag Band, especially in

public.  If there's one flaw in BB it was the

style.  It wasn't exactly the height of fashion,

even back in '84.  Way too Adam Ant for me.

I swear The HKC made Prince look masculine!

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Sorry I got my groups confused again.

Just substitute Banzai for Ape.

But they both have the same prob Bob.

Lack of recognition.

Both POTA and TABB are out of the

forefront of Sci-Fi flicks.  Luckily

it looks like ST & SW are at an end.

Lets hope the void isn't filled with

X-Men and Stargate.

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:01 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Abuse to Hunter

Sorry I got my groups confused again.

Just substitute Banzai for Ape.

But they both have the same prob Bob.

Lack of recognition.

Both POTA and TABB are out of the

forefront of Sci-Fi flicks.  Luckily

it looks like ST & SW are at an end.

Lets hope the void isn't filled with

X-Men and Stargate.

 

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if you don't want to dress up at these conventions that is fine with me. Only thing I was suggesting was that Apes fans show up at these conventions. I will be at these conventions promoting the Ape cause.

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Yes - you're all just VERY lucky Greg is simply doing them for the pleasure - that usually stinks of compromise but with Greg he delivers better than any card company I've experienced.


I just looked at his set of ESCAPE "cards" and wanted to say that they are as good as the BENEATH set... Keep up the good work Greg and Neil...

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-----Original Message-----
From: mlccougar@... [mlccougar@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:30 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Thanks to urko3085

In a message dated 4/6/2005 8:11:01 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Also, Whitty: Have you heard any more from RITTENHOUSE as far as if they are going to want to do Greg's BENEATH cards as a real set?

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In a message dated 4/7/2005 12:07:07 A.M. Central Standard Time, PofTAfan@... writes:

if you don't want to dress up at these conventions that is fine with me. Only thing I was suggesting was that Apes fans show up at these conventions.

 

I've gone to some Cons, but there wasn't much

POTA stuff there.  All I found was a T-Shirt of

The Kiss!  And, except for the red hearts, it

was in black & white.

 

If someone is going to be at the Cons

promoting Apes it aught to be Apemania.

Not many people will be able to afford

their gear, but that's not the point.  You

have to get the word out.  Not only about

Apemania, but POTA in general.

I can't think of anyone better to promote

POTA than Brian and the gang.  Who

else has a bigger stake in it? 

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-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 5:48 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Abuse to Hunter

In a message dated 4/7/2005 12:07:07 A.M. Central Standard Time, PofTAfan@... writes:

if you don't want to dress up at these conventions that is fine with me. Only thing I was suggesting was that Apes fans show up at these conventions.

 

I've gone to some Cons, but there wasn't much

POTA stuff there.  All I found was a T-Shirt of

The Kiss!  And, except for the red hearts, it

was in black & white.

 

If someone is going to be at the Cons

promoting Apes it aught to be Apemania.

Not many people will be able to afford

their gear, but that's not the point.  You

have to get the word out.  Not only about

Apemania, but POTA in general.

I can't think of anyone better to promote

POTA than Brian and the gang.  Who

else has a bigger stake in it? 

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In a message dated 4/7/2005 2:59:12 A.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Brian and the gang are currently flat out with Pirates of the Carribean 2.

 

What's amazing to me is that there's already plans for POTC 3!

When is The Rum Diary ever going to get finished, or started

for that matter?  The Colonel has over booked himself!

 

But, I digress.  Apemania needs to follow a Con cross-country.

Get the word out -- generate some business!  They have lives,

I know.  So maybe they need some second stringers.  I'm

sure some of you out there don't have lives.  Now's the time

to step up to the plate.  Not only will you be representing

POTA, but Apemania has an awful lot of high dollar swag

to flog.  Now maybe the only ones with money to buy

replica props and costumes will be the ST & SW fans,

but word will get around.  Names & numbers will be

exchanged.  The only way for POTA to compete is

to have a presence.  THAT is what has been lacking

at the Cons.  And you and you and yes even YOU

are to blame!  Mostly Brian and his lot, but YOU as

well!  So get in there!  SW & ST are about to be history!

We've been history for years, so we should be ahead of

them, in that at least.  Remember, talkin' monkeys are

just plain cool!  Cooler than a Wookie, that's for sure.

And a damn site cooler than an Ewok!!  Jar-Jar Binks

my ass!  I'd rather see Zira walking around a Con than

all the Jedi and Klingons in the entire Universe!

Okay, I'm stepping off the soap box.

Now hop to it!

 

 

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Ok. I have to know. Isn't anyone going to ask? I'm trying to
avoid spoilers here, but too bad!

What is going on underground? There are six (?) ships represented
there in the museum, and some of them are in fairly good shape.
Were there six ships in POTA? I'm guessing this is where Milo gets
his ship(s). EXCELLENT! How very clever! I don't care so much
about the story behind the ships, I want to see what happens with
Milo and the ship.

This is where I look completely stupid, but isn't that Milo? It has
to be!

Um... If you aren't going to write more comics, how will we know
what happens????

I don't know what sorts of conversation you are looking for here,
but I think, if I'm reading where this was going, you've pulled
together a great Milo/ship scenario! I hadn't thought of it! Am I
way off?

Helen

Yeah. I think I see where Elaine is coming from here. I stay
silent about most of the comic stuff. (First off, I'm just learning
how to read comics -- not that reading is hard *grin* but following
comics has always been hard for me. It's the left to right reading
sequence thing.) Anyway, since Beware the Beast I've had a little
less problem with that.

However, when I comment about stuff with a personal opinion it
usually doesn't make a good impression, so I figure it probably
isn't worth the effort. Besides... someone always has the right
opinion, and I'm not usually that person. It's better if I just sit
it out.

So, I'm going to go sit with Elaine and eat veggie casserole and
banana muffins and rejoice in the sunshine....

Helen

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> I am not a mutant fan but I like your drawings of the mutants. I
could make
> deeper comments about what is going in the comix but my
imagination is so far
> out there sometimes, I don't want to get anyone worked up. Elaine

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In a message dated 4/7/2005 8:52:02 A.M. Central Standard Time, taebokitti@... writes:

Of all the conventions I have attended, I have only been to one where people were in ape costumes. Elaine

 

I did see some POTA costumes for sale at one.

Of course they were for thousands of dollars,

so I don't know if they found a buyer.  But that

was the first convention I'd even been to, and I've

only been to one since, and that was the one

with the T-shirts.  It would be nice to see an

entire section with DVD's playing on big screens

and makeup kits and costumes, props etc . . .

You know there are kids out there that don't

know about the Statue of Liberty, in spite

of Fox's best efforts to spoil it for them.

 

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HKC?

-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 2:58 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Abuse to Hunter

In a message dated 4/6/2005 11:07:08 P.M. Central Standard Time, PofTAfan@... writes:

          That true. But the fans of Star Wars and the trekkies shows up at these comic and sci-fi conventions either in costume or not and these movie executives see that.

 

I'm sorry, but there's no way I'm going to dress

like I'm in an 80 Eurofag Band, especially in

public.  If there's one flaw in BB it was the

style.  It wasn't exactly the height of fashion,

even back in '84.  Way too Adam Ant for me.

I swear The HKC made Prince look masculine!

http://home.earthlink.net/~thepittbull/

go vegetarian!

While at the Worldcon two years ago I wore a diffrent PotA T-Shirt
each of the 5 days there hoping to illicit some comment from anyone.
Some people may have noticed them, but nobody said a word. Most of the
flyers promoting the group were still there at the end of the week.
The only notable POTA tie ins I noticed were a few copies of Eric
Green's book and a set of the Simpon POTA pop-ups (which I bought!).

While I hate to admit it, POTA fandom is just a drop of water in a
very big SF ocean. It just happens to be the one drop I like best.

I'm tryin gto stay neutral in all the recent skirmishes and infighting
pointing. We are such a rare breed that it just doesn't make much
sense to be bashing each other. Sure there have been plenty of times
I've disagreed with what some people may say, but I'd rather just not
comment on those and let the group find it's own way.

As for the comics, while it was a valiant effort to inspire
discussion, some of that silence (from myself at least) can be
attributed to the fact that it was just so damn good. I think I only
commented once (whether the chimp was/could be Lucius IIRC), because
everything was being played out with enough intrigue on it's own.
Neil/Micheal were throwing enough curves in the story to keep us glued
to our seats to see what surprise was coming next. It's hard to
explain, but I hope I'm getting my message through.

Dario

PofTAfan@... wrote:

> That true. But the fans of Star Wars and the trekkies

shows up at these comic and sci-fi conventions either in costume or
not and these movie executives see that. I was at a convention in San
Diego and I chatted with a couple of artists and some of them were
interested in the fan club, but we need to be more committed. We need
to show up in force at these comic and sci-fi convention so that these
studio executives at Fox would recognize us. We either show up at
these conventions and reason with these Fox executives to put more
Apes on the screen.

>
> This is my opinion
> Kevin (PofTAfan)

If you've found issues (plural) of Apesfan, them you must have at
least 2. If you have 2, then you have them all as there were only 2
printed. Yes they are great aren't they?

Dario

John wrote:

>
> I loved the issues of Apesfan I was able to find. It was the first
> fanzine that seemed to have real quality articles and amazing photo
> content. I wish they could have continued that. I guess it was too
> costly to produce a fanzine of that quality or just like most GOOD
> Apes projects the interest is to hard to keep.

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That sounds real good, Elaine. Suppose he still dances?

Helen

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> That veggie caserole sounds real good right now. Let's invite Urko
over.
> Elaine

"John" <DrZaiusDavis@... > wrote:

>
> They removed the hoods from the apes and added the backround of
> the liberty bell and Delphi city instead of the tree house setting.
> Has anyone else caught this? Did they do this for the other records
> artwork also?

They didn't just do this for Power Records - I'm pretty sure I remember some
PotA toys having packaging that borrowed/ripped off Ploog's art. As well as
Ploog, the Power Records sleeves also had art by comic artists Ernie Chua
and (the legendary) Neal Adams.

Alan

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In a message dated 4/7/2005 11:48:10 A.M. Central Standard Time, brindlepit2002@... writes:

hong kong cavaliers

Spot on!

 

I'm in both POTA and BB groups

And both groups were discussing

the lack of Sci-Fi representation.

 

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I just want to apologize to anybody who got offended by my comments.
You guys should know my sense of humor and I am quite a smart-ass. I
didn't mean to downplay anybodies hard work. If someone out there
enjoys your Planet of the Apes project, its valid. I happen to enjoy
some peoples work more than others but I didn't want to get everyone
all worked up...Ok... that's a lie... but I really like everyone I've
met in the group and I don't wish to make people uncomfortable. I
can't help myself. That's they way I roll. Not everybody is gonna get
it. Word. I don't know when I turned into a black man from the late
80's. I am sorry.

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In a message dated 4/7/2005 12:04:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, darios@... writes:

It just happens to be the one drop I like best.

I'm tryin gto stay neutral in all the recent skirmishes and infighting
pointing. We are such a rare breed

 

True.  One thing both POTA and TABB have in common

is that the fans base is a rare breed.  Not that there isn't

a rich and layered world to be a fan of.  It's just most Sci-Fi

fans don't get it and only see it superficially.  There is another

film that has a lot to offer as well.  Blade Runner has a lot

going for it.  But it's fans are a broad mix and not very vocal.

 

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However, when I comment about stuff with a personal opinion it

> usually doesn't make a good impression, so I figure it probably
> isn't worth the effort. Besides... someone always has the right
> opinion, and I'm not usually that person. It's better if I just sit
> it out.
>

I promise to be nice to everyone when they voice their opinion. If I
make comments Its all in fun and I don't mean to hurt anybodies
feelings. Really. I goof on everyone to be funny... not to be hurtful.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:

>
> That sounds real good, Elaine. Suppose he still dances?
>
> Helen

He better not even try to make me eat that damn taco bell dog either!

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-----Original Message-----
From: taebokitti@... [taebokitti@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:08 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] This is the end?

Probably it is a good idea to sell the comic like SS. I also would like the comic in book form ideally. Elaine

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-----Original Message-----
From: taebokitti@... [taebokitti@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:15 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: This is the end?

I am not a mutant fan but I like your drawings of the mutants. I could make deeper comments about what is going in the comix but my imagination is so far out there sometimes, I don't want to get anyone worked up. Elaine

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-----Original Message-----
From: taebokitti@... [taebokitti@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:19 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] This is the end?

I thing comparing Lessons From the lawgiver and the comix is like talking about apples and oranges. I think there is room for all kinds of projects and that is what I like about the pota groups that I am a part of. Elaine

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-----Original Message-----
From: taebokitti@... [taebokitti@...]
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:48 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Abuse to Hunter

Good point about the conventions. I use to go to Star Trek and sci fi conventions frequently and it seems like Darth Vader and the Empire was always there in force(no pun intended.)

Of all the conventions I have attended, I have only been to one where people were in ape costumes. Elaine

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-----Original Message-----
From: ape_mom [sand_hill_school@...]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:42 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Within the Planet of the Apes...

Ok.  I have to know.  Isn't anyone going to ask?  I'm trying to
avoid spoilers here, but too bad! 

What is going on underground?  There are six (?) ships represented
there in the museum, and some of them are in fairly good shape. 
Were there six ships in POTA?  I'm guessing this is where Milo gets
his ship(s).  EXCELLENT!  How very clever!  I don't care so much
about the story behind the ships, I want to see what happens with
Milo and the ship. 

This is where I look completely stupid, but isn't that Milo?  It has
to be!

Um...  If you aren't going to write more comics, how will we know
what happens????

I don't know what sorts of conversation you are looking for here,
but I think, if I'm reading where this was going, you've pulled
together a great Milo/ship scenario!  I hadn't thought of it!  Am I
way off?

Helen

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-----Original Message-----
From: ape_mom [sand_hill_school@...]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 1:50 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: This is the end?

Yeah.  I think I see where Elaine is coming from here.  I stay
silent about most of the comic stuff.  (First off, I'm just learning
how to read comics -- not that reading is hard *grin* but following
comics has always been hard for me.  It's the left to right reading
sequence thing.)  Anyway, since Beware the Beast I've had a little
less problem with that. 

However, when I comment about stuff with a personal opinion it
usually doesn't make a good impression, so I figure it probably
isn't worth the effort.  Besides...  someone always has the right
opinion, and I'm not usually that person.  It's better if I just sit
it out.

So, I'm going to go sit with Elaine and eat veggie casserole and
banana muffins and rejoice in the sunshine....

Helen


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> I am not a mutant fan but I like your drawings of the mutants. I
could make
> deeper comments about what is going in the comix but my
imagination is so far
> out there sometimes, I don't want to get anyone worked up. Elaine

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Oh, Neil. I meant everything I said to YOU. I was just joking with all
the sensitive people. Keep drawing like your life depends on it. CAUSE
IT DOES!

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-----Original Message-----
From: Neil T Foster [nfoster@...]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 7:26 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: This is the end?

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" < DrZaiusDavis@a...> wrote:
>I promise to be nice to everyone when they voice their opinion. If I  make comments Its all in fun and I don't mean to hurt anybodies feelings. Really. I goof on everyone to be funny... not to be hurtful.

 

-- Whew! And here I was thinking you were serious with all those threats about coming Down under to kill me! ;-)

 

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: John [DrZaiusDavis@...]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 7:41 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: This is the end?

Oh, Neil. I meant everything I said to YOU. I was just joking with all
the sensitive people. Keep drawing like your life depends on it. CAUSE
IT DOES!

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Maybe I didn't make myself clear with the threats directed at YOU too!
:) -- see. Its a new and friendlier John. ;) ? Am I even doing this
right? :0

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-----Original Message-----
From: Dario [darios@...]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 2:53 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Abuse to Hunter

While at the Worldcon two years ago I wore a diffrent PotA T-Shirt
each of the 5 days there hoping to illicit some comment from anyone.
Some people may have noticed them, but nobody said a word. Most of the
flyers promoting the group were still there at the end of the week.
The only notable POTA tie ins I noticed were a few copies of Eric
Green's book and a set of the Simpon POTA pop-ups (which I bought!).

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-----Original Message-----
From: Dario [darios@...]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 2:53 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Abuse to Hunter

While I hate to admit it, POTA fandom is just a drop of water in a
very big SF ocean. It just happens to be the one drop I like best.

I'm trying to stay neutral in all the recent skirmishes and infighting
pointing. We are such a rare breed that it just doesn't make much
sense to be bashing each other. Sure there have been plenty of times
I've disagreed with what some people may say, but I'd rather just not
comment on those and let the group find it's own way.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Dario [darios@...]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 2:53 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Abuse to Hunter

As for the comics, while it was a valiant effort to inspire
discussion, some of that silence (from myself at least) can be
attributed to the fact that it was just so damn good. I think I only
commented once (whether the chimp was/could be Lucius IIRC), because
everything was being played out with enough intrigue on it's own.
Neil/Micheal were throwing enough curves in the story to keep us glued
to our seats to see what surprise was coming next.  It's hard to
explain, but I hope I'm getting my message through.

Dario

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-----Original Message-----
From: Dario [darios@...]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 2:54 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Apesfan issues

If you've found issues (plural) of Apesfan, them you must have at
least 2. If you have 2, then you have them all as there were only 2
printed. Yes they are great aren't they?

Dario

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-----Original Message-----
From: taebokitti@... [taebokitti@...]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 3:58 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: This is the end?

That veggie caserole sounds real good right now. Let's invite Urko over. Elaine

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-----Original Message-----
From: ape_mom [sand_hill_school@...]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 4:58 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] This is?

That sounds real good, Elaine.  Suppose he still dances?

Helen


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> That veggie caserole sounds real good right now. Let's invite Urko
over.
> Elaine

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In a message dated 4/7/2005 10:51:32 A.M. Central Standard Time, sand_hill_school@... writes:

(First off, I'm just learning
how to read comics -- not that reading is hard *grin* but following
comics has always been hard for me

 

You should try reading Manga.

Since it was originally in Japanese

you have to start from the back and

read right to left up to the front.  And

the back cover is actually the front

cover and visa versa.

 

 

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: John [DrZaiusDavis@...]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 7:07 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: This is the end?

I just want to apologize to anybody who got offended by my comments.
You guys should know my sense of humor and I am quite a smart-ass.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Neil T Foster [nfoster@...]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 7:19 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Within the Planet of the Apes...

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "ape_mom" <sand_hill_school@y...> wrote:
> EXCELLENT!  How very clever!  I don't care so much about the story behind the ships, I want to see what happens with Milo and the ship. 
This is where I look completely stupid, but isn't that Milo?  It has to be!

 

--Helen you are not nor do you ever look stupid! (slight hint about the character's identity in there as well!!)

 

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: John [DrZaiusDavis@...]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 7:48 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: This is the end?

Maybe I didn't make myself clear with the threats directed at YOU too!
:) -- see. Its a new and friendlier John. ;) ? Am I even doing this
right? :0

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-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 8:10 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: This is the end?

In a message dated 4/7/2005 10:51:32 A.M. Central Standard Time, sand_hill_school@... writes:

(First off, I'm just learning
how to read comics -- not that reading is hard *grin* but following
comics has always been hard for me

 

You should try reading Manga.

Since it was originally in Japanese

you have to start from the back and

read right to left up to the front.  And

the back cover is actually the front

cover and visa versa.

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I wish I had a scanner to share these with the group. The second issue
was a double sized tribute to Roddy and it was truly impressive. They
have the feel of professional Magazines and don't come off as being
copied at work when nobody was looking (not that there is anything
wrong with that). See, I'm getting good at this being respectful
thing, huh?

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-----Original Message-----
From: John [DrZaiusDavis@...]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 8:17 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Apesfan issues

I wish I had a scanner to share these with the group. The second issue
was a double sized tribute to Roddy and it was truly impressive. They
have the feel of professional Magazines and don't come off as being
copied at work when nobody was looking (not that there is anything
wrong with that). See, I'm getting good at this being respectful
thing, huh?

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In a message dated 4/7/2005 2:08:19 P.M. Central Standard Time, sand_hill_school@... writes:

That sounds real good, Elaine.  Suppose he still dances?

Helen

 

"Simply  be cause his skin isn't white?

No!  But never let it be said that

we don't know the difference between good

dancing and bad dancing!"

 

Just give him some grape juice plus

and let the music move him.

 

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 8:19 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] This is?

In a message dated 4/7/2005 2:08:19 P.M. Central Standard Time, sand_hill_school@... writes:

That sounds real good, Elaine.  Suppose he still dances?

Helen

 

"Simply  be cause his skin isn't white?

No!  But never let it be said that

we don't know the difference between good

dancing and bad dancing!"

 

Just give him some grape juice plus

and let the music move him.

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In a message dated 4/7/2005 4:22:53 P.M. Central Standard Time, DrZaiusDavis@... writes:

I promise to be nice to everyone when they voice their opinion. If I
make comments Its all in fun and I don't mean to hurt anybodies
feelings. Really. I goof on everyone to be funny... not to be hurtful.

You Bastard!

 

just kidding . . .

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 8:22 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: This is the end?

In a message dated 4/7/2005 4:22:53 P.M. Central Standard Time, DrZaiusDavis@... writes:

I promise to be nice to everyone when they voice their opinion. If I
make comments Its all in fun and I don't mean to hurt anybodies
feelings. Really. I goof on everyone to be funny... not to be hurtful.

You Bastard!

 

just kidding . . .

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Tell me how. If he wants to scan and post these somewhere and mail
them back to me I'd be more than willing to share these.

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In a message dated 4/7/2005 4:49:35 P.M. Central Standard Time, DrZaiusDavis@... writes:

Its a new and friendlier John. ;)

And what about the new friendlier Michael?

I'm still not sure it isn't an elaborate April Fools.

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: John [DrZaiusDavis@...]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 8:25 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Apesfan issues

Tell me how. If he wants to scan and post these somewhere and mail
them back to me I'd be more than willing to share these.

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See, some of you get it.

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-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 8:26 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: This is the end?

In a message dated 4/7/2005 4:49:35 P.M. Central Standard Time, DrZaiusDavis@... writes:

Its a new and friendlier John. ;)

And what about the new friendlier Michael?

I'm still not sure it isn't an elaborate April Fools.

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In a message dated 4/7/2005 5:21:27 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Did the apes have music?

 

They had those trumpets didn't they?

To sound the advance.

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In a message dated 4/7/2005 5:27:59 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

After midday the fooler becomes the fool right?  :)

 

Is that Greenwich Mean Time?

That's when the fooly gets meaner.

Fooly Cooly!

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 8:30 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Ape Music

In a message dated 4/7/2005 5:21:27 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Did the apes have music?

 

They had those trumpets didn't they?

To sound the advance.

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-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 8:32 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: This is the end?

In a message dated 4/7/2005 5:27:59 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

After midday the fooler becomes the fool right?  :)

 

Is that Greenwich Mean Time?

That's when the fooly gets meaner.

Fooly Cooly!

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