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Group: potadg Message: 29268 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 5/23/2005
Subject: Re: Anthony's idea.
Group: potadg Message: 29269 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 5/23/2005
Subject: Re: Anthony's idea.
Group: potadg Message: 29270 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/23/2005
Subject: Re: Anthony's idea.
Group: potadg Message: 29271 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/23/2005
Subject: Re: Anthony's idea.
Group: potadg Message: 29272 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 5/23/2005
Subject: Re: Anthony's idea.
Group: potadg Message: 29273 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/23/2005
Subject: Re: Anthony's idea.
Group: potadg Message: 29274 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 5/23/2005
Subject: Re: Anthony's idea.
Group: potadg Message: 29275 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Anthony's idea.
Group: potadg Message: 29276 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Anthony's idea.
Group: potadg Message: 29277 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Anthony's idea.
Group: potadg Message: 29278 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Anthony's idea.
Group: potadg Message: 29279 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Anthony's idea.
Group: potadg Message: 29280 From: patrickmichaeltilton Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Buy it... you'll sleep better!
Group: potadg Message: 29281 From: patrickmichaeltilton Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Within - when do we get strip 39?
Group: potadg Message: 29282 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 29283 From: Michael Whitty Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Within - when do we get strip 39?
Group: potadg Message: 29284 From: ron kenner Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 29285 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Within - when do we get strip 39?
Group: potadg Message: 29286 From: Michael Whitty Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Within - when do we get strip 39?
Group: potadg Message: 29287 From: Michael Whitty Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 29288 From: Neil Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 29289 From: John Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Within Chapter 39
Group: potadg Message: 29290 From: Neil Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Anthony's idea.
Group: potadg Message: 29291 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Within Chapter 39
Group: potadg Message: 29292 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 29293 From: John Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Anthony's idea.
Group: potadg Message: 29294 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 29295 From: Neil Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 29296 From: Neil Date: 5/24/2005
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Group: potadg Message: 29297 From: Neil Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 29298 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 29299 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 29300 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 29301 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 29302 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Within Chapter 39
Group: potadg Message: 29303 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Within Chapter 39
Group: potadg Message: 29304 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 29305 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 29306 From: Neil Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Within Chapter 39
Group: potadg Message: 29307 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 29308 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Marvel UK issue 32
Group: potadg Message: 29309 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: Anthony's idea.
Group: potadg Message: 29310 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 29311 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: Anthony's idea.
Group: potadg Message: 29312 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Within 39
Group: potadg Message: 29313 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Evidence
Group: potadg Message: 29314 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 29315 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 29316 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 5/25/2005
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Group: potadg Message: 29317 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 29318 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 5/25/2005
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Group: potadg Message: 29319 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 29320 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 29321 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 29322 From: luke_the_drifter52 Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: The Newest Within Strip
Group: potadg Message: 29323 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 29324 From: luke_the_drifter52 Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Sideshow Taylor and Nova
Group: potadg Message: 29325 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: The Newest Within Strip
Group: potadg Message: 29326 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 29327 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: Sideshow Taylor and Nova
Group: potadg Message: 29328 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 29329 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: The Newest Within Strip
Group: potadg Message: 29330 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 29331 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: The Newest Within Strip
Group: potadg Message: 29332 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 29333 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: The Newest Within Strip
Group: potadg Message: 29334 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 29335 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 29336 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: The Newest Within Strip
Group: potadg Message: 29337 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 29338 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: The Newest Within Strip
Group: potadg Message: 29339 From: Melinda G Kettler Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: The Newest Within Strip
Group: potadg Message: 29340 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: The Newest Within Strip
Group: potadg Message: 29341 From: luke_the_drifter52 Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: The Newest Within Strip
Group: potadg Message: 29342 From: Melinda G Kettler Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: Zira Paintings
Group: potadg Message: 29343 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: The Newest Within Strip
Group: potadg Message: 29344 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: Zira Paintings
Group: potadg Message: 29345 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: The Newest Within Strip
Group: potadg Message: 29346 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: The Newest Within Strip
Group: potadg Message: 29347 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: The Newest Within Strip
Group: potadg Message: 29348 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: The Newest Within Strip
Group: potadg Message: 29349 From: luke_the_drifter52 Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: Sideshow Taylor and Nova
Group: potadg Message: 29350 From: luke_the_drifter52 Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: Sideshow Taylor and Nova
Group: potadg Message: 29351 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: Sideshow Taylor and Nova
Group: potadg Message: 29352 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: Sideshow Taylor and Nova
Group: potadg Message: 29353 From: luke_the_drifter52 Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: Sideshow Taylor and Nova
Group: potadg Message: 29354 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: Sideshow Taylor and Nova
Group: potadg Message: 29355 From: luke_the_drifter52 Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: Sideshow Taylor and Nova
Group: potadg Message: 29356 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 29357 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Within Chapter 39
Group: potadg Message: 29358 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: Sideshow Taylor and Nova
Group: potadg Message: 29359 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
Group: potadg Message: 29360 From: luke_the_drifter52 Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: Sideshow Taylor and Nova
Group: potadg Message: 29361 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: Within Chapter 39
Group: potadg Message: 29362 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: Zira Paintings
Group: potadg Message: 29363 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Anniversary Reminder
Group: potadg Message: 29364 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Anniversary Reminder
Group: potadg Message: 29365 From: PhoenixCa7@aol.com Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: The Newest Within Strip
Group: potadg Message: 29366 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 5/25/2005
Subject: Re: Evidence
Group: potadg Message: 29367 From: Michael Whitty Date: 5/26/2005
Subject: Re: Evidence



Group: potadg Message: 29268 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 5/23/2005
Subject: Re: Anthony's idea.
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And hey - who says they can't interbreed?

Whitty,

Check with your anthropologists or scientists... They will tell you that each of the species has a different genetic makeup, making it impossible for them to interbreed...
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Group: potadg Message: 29269 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 5/23/2005
Subject: Re: Anthony's idea.
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.html.html In a message dated 5/23/2005 11:11:06 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:


Fair enough - but isn't that the essence of what POTA explores?


Even on POTA, the apes would be smart enough to know that their individual species are not capable of interspecies breeding, so (as Anthony says) it's probably taboo... If not taboo, then they just don't do it out of the fact that they're not going to try tampering with nature...
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Group: potadg Message: 29270 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/23/2005
Subject: Re: Anthony's idea.
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Or TALK!  Or walk upright!
 
C'mon Cougar - where do you draw the line in FICTION?
 
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 2:15 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Anthony's idea.

In a message dated 5/23/2005 11:11:06 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

And hey - who says they can't interbreed?


Whitty,

Check with your anthropologists or scientists... They will tell you that each of the species has a different genetic makeup, making it impossible for them to interbreed...
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Group: potadg Message: 29271 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/23/2005
Subject: Re: Anthony's idea.
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Same sex couples know they can't interbreed.
 
Becoming a couple is taboo, but they do it anyway.
 
The exploration of this dilema is begging to have a story written about it.
 
It is what POTS would have done in 1969 if they could have got away with it - IMHO.
 
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 2:17 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Anthony's idea.

In a message dated 5/23/2005 11:11:06 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:


Fair enough - but isn't that the essence of what POTA explores?


Even on POTA, the apes would be smart enough to know that their individual species are not capable of interspecies breeding, so (as Anthony says) it's probably taboo... If not taboo, then they just don't do it out of the fact that they're not going to try tampering with nature...
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Group: potadg Message: 29272 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 5/23/2005
Subject: Re: Anthony's idea.
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In a message dated 5/23/2005 9:13:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
Yup - OK, but it would be interesting to explore, or just discuss on the group, what people think about this!

Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 2:04 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Anthony's idea.

In a message dated 5/23/2005 10:54:40 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Isn't thaty a gorilla funeral and he has a chimp wife?
 
Isn't integration of the 3 ape species an interesting question, relevant to the racial themes of the entire series?


Whitty,

In PLANET, that was just a screw-up and you know it... It's pretty safe to say they just went and used chimp appliances rather than going thru the trouble of creating female gorilla appliances for what would basically be a background ape... Yes, they should have made an actress up properly for the funeral scene, but they didn't... It still doesn't mean that the apes species would intermarry, because it's impossible for them to interbreed because they are all seperate species.

I am not against the idea of some young gorilla being orphaned and raised by a chimp foster parent, or the idea that a gorilla father would become widowed and have his son raised by a chimp nanny, etc. I am just saying keep their species from inter-species marrying...

  • The apes' society would evolve to the point they would intermarry and when their science also evolved, they would find a way to reproduce. However, in the original planet, it is clear (to me anyways) that all three species do not mix through marriage and even rarely socialize. We see them working together but any relationships between the three great apes would have to be extremely hidden. This is also a patriarchal society. My guess is that
  • parents may even chose their daughters' husbands. For example, a gorilla
  • general would not want his daughter to marry a soldier but an officer, let alone a chimp or orangutan. Chimps look down upon gorillas, a chimp
  • interested in a gorilla might be ostracized from his or her family. Elaine
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Group: potadg Message: 29273 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/23/2005
Subject: Re: Anthony's idea.
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I agree Elaine, very good points.
 
Michael
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of taebokitti@...
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 2:29 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Anthony's idea.

In a message dated 5/23/2005 9:13:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
Yup - OK, but it would be interesting to explore, or just discuss on the group, what people think about this!

Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 2:04 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Anthony's idea.

In a message dated 5/23/2005 10:54:40 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Isn't thaty a gorilla funeral and he has a chimp wife?
 
Isn't integration of the 3 ape species an interesting question, relevant to the racial themes of the entire series?


Whitty,

In PLANET, that was just a screw-up and you know it... It's pretty safe to say they just went and used chimp appliances rather than going thru the trouble of creating female gorilla appliances for what would basically be a background ape... Yes, they should have made an actress up properly for the funeral scene, but they didn't... It still doesn't mean that the apes species would intermarry, because it's impossible for them to interbreed because they are all seperate species.

I am not against the idea of some young gorilla being orphaned and raised by a chimp foster parent, or the idea that a gorilla father would become widowed and have his son raised by a chimp nanny, etc. I am just saying keep their species from inter-species marrying...

  • The apes' society would evolve to the point they would intermarry and when their science also evolved, they would find a way to reproduce. However, in the original planet, it is clear (to me anyways) that all three species do not mix through marriage and even rarely socialize. We see them working together but any relationships between the three great apes would have to be extremely hidden. This is also a patriarchal society. My guess is that
  • parents may even chose their daughters' husbands. For example, a gorilla
  • general would not want his daughter to marry a soldier but an officer, let alone a chimp or orangutan. Chimps look down upon gorillas, a chimp
  • interested in a gorilla might be ostracized from his or her family. Elaine
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Group: potadg Message: 29274 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 5/23/2005
Subject: Re: Anthony's idea.
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In a message dated 5/23/2005 9:38:14 PM Pacific Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
I agree Elaine, very good points.
 
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of taebokitti@...
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 2:29 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Anthony's idea.

In a message dated 5/23/2005 9:13:23 PM Pacific Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
Yup - OK, but it would be interesting to explore, or just discuss on the group, what people think about this!

Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 2:04 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Anthony's idea.

In a message dated 5/23/2005 10:54:40 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Isn't thaty a gorilla funeral and he has a chimp wife?
 
Isn't integration of the 3 ape species an interesting question, relevant to the racial themes of the entire series?


Whitty,

In PLANET, that was just a screw-up and you know it... It's pretty safe to say they just went and used chimp appliances rather than going thru the trouble of creating female gorilla appliances for what would basically be a background ape... Yes, they should have made an actress up properly for the funeral scene, but they didn't... It still doesn't mean that the apes species would intermarry, because it's impossible for them to interbreed because they are all seperate species.

I am not against the idea of some young gorilla being orphaned and raised by a chimp foster parent, or the idea that a gorilla father would become widowed and have his son raised by a chimp nanny, etc. I am just saying keep their species from inter-species marrying...

  • The apes' society would evolve to the point they would intermarry and when their science also evolved, they would find a way to reproduce. However, in the original planet, it is clear (to me anyways) that all three species do not mix through marriage and even rarely socialize. We see them working together but any relationships between the three great apes would have to be extremely hidden. This is also a patriarchal society. My guess is that
  • parents may even chose their daughters' husbands. For example, a gorilla
  • general would not want his daughter to marry a soldier but an officer, let alone a chimp or orangutan. Chimps look down upon gorillas, a chimp
  • interested in a gorilla might be ostracized from his or her family. Elaine

  •  Michael and Neil, you have done a great job with the comics. If intermarriage is a storyline you want to explore. Go for it. I always
  • encourage people to use their imagination. Now I'll go to Cougar's house and see if he needs CPR. Elaine
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Group: potadg Message: 29275 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Anthony's idea.
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Of course, there are always fringe-dwellers who ignore established
taboos. I could see a Garvon equivalent with a non-chimp wife, or a
gorilla bounty hunter with an orangutan wife.

I just had an interesting thought: What if the gorilla in Planet was
secretly assassinated for marrying a chimp?


On May 23, 2005, at 11:29 PM, Whitty, Michael wrote:

> Same sex couples know they can't interbreed.
>
> Becoming a couple is taboo, but they do it anyway.
>
> The exploration of this dilema is begging to have a story written
> about it.
>
> It is what POTS would have done in 1969 if they could have got away
> with it - IMHO.
>
> Michael
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ]On Behalf
>> Of mlccougar@...
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 2:17 PM
>> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Anthony's idea.
>>
>> In a message dated 5/23/2005 11:11:06 PM Central Standard Time,
>> Michael.Whitty@... writes:
>>
>>> Fair enough - but isn't that the essence of what POTA explores?
>>
>> Even on POTA, the apes would be smart enough to know that their
>> individual species are not capable of interspecies breeding, so (as
>> Anthony says) it's probably taboo... If not taboo, then they just
>> don't do it out of the fact that they're not going to try tampering
>> with nature...
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Group: potadg Message: 29276 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Anthony's idea.
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In a message dated 5/23/2005 10:48:49 P.M. Central Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:
they have a half chimp, half gorilla, which of course is impossible due to their being seperate species...
 
This is a fallacy. Many separate species in the same genus
can interbreed.  However the offspring are seldom fertile. 
I suggest everyone check out that Humanzee program next
time it's on the Discovery Channel.  It will open your eyes,
and or freak you out.  It makes you wonder what human is.
 
 
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Group: potadg Message: 29277 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Anthony's idea.
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In a message dated 5/23/2005 11:07:52 P.M. Central Standard Time, abmac@... writes:
Because it's impossible for an inter-species marriage to produce
children, there's probably a strong taboo against it.
I think you have the cart before the horse.
 
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Group: potadg Message: 29278 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Anthony's idea.
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In a message dated 5/23/2005 11:11:56 P.M. Central Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:
it's impossible for them to interbreed because they are all seperate species.
 
Then what was that Liger I saw at the zoo?
And where do mules come from?
Beefalo anyone?
 
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Group: potadg Message: 29279 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Anthony's idea.
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In a message dated 5/23/2005 11:17:20 P.M. Central Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:
Check with your anthropologists or scientists... They will tell you that each of the species has a different genetic makeup, making it impossible for them to interbreed...
 
Wow!  Mike has a staff of anthropologists?
If McCougar is so sure of this I suggest he
donate his genetic material for one of those
unspeakable experiments like they did at
Yerkes in the 20's and China in the 60's.
I just hope you can pay the child support.
 
 
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Group: potadg Message: 29280 From: patrickmichaeltilton Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Buy it... you'll sleep better!
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 5/18/05 2:07:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> patrickmichaeltilton@y... writes:
>
>
> *** You're stuPENdously wrong, Rory! Taylor's "Final Report" is
given when the EARTH-TIME clock reads 3-23-2673 (within less than two
minutes of screentime, the final date reads 3-27-2673). The EARTH-
TIME year, Rory, was TWENTY-SIX SEVENTY THREE. That's a mere 3 YEARS
after the date when the "nice" Lawgiver tells the story of Caesar to
the group of kiddies, in 2670.
>
>
You're wrong! In order to get from when Taylor makes his report to
the conclusion of BATTLE you have to go through all the events of the
five films! You can't have the events of BATTLE until Taylor lands
on the POTA to provide a ship for the apes to go back to 1973! You
can't have your chickens before your eggs, Patrick! Time moves in
only one direction. How could Zira and Cornelius appear in 1973
BEFORE the events of 3978?
>
> -- Rory
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Group: potadg Message: 29281 From: patrickmichaeltilton Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Within - when do we get strip 39?
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:
>
> Patrick, are you reading these?
>
> Michael

*** I've got a lot on my plate of late, so I'll have to get caught up.
Are they ALL available on the DG site's Home page? Or do I have to wait
for somebody to "nominate" me to get parts of it?

Patrick
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Group: potadg Message: 29282 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
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That is a nifty logo, Neil.
 
Greg

"Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...> wrote:
Hey,
 
KIf you haven't checked the home page picture recently, you should.
 
 
Thanks Neil, and I love the logo too!
Michael

Group: potadg Message: 29283 From: Michael Whitty Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Within - when do we get strip 39?
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They are all available except the MOST recent and I have been very liberal – allowing people to “nominate” themselves!

I’ll send it to you from work tomorrow, or do ya wanna catch up first? 
J

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of patrickmichaeltilton
Sent: Tuesday, 24 May 2005 6:58 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Within - when do we get strip 39?

 

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:

> Patrick, are you reading these?

> Michael

*** I've got a lot on my plate of late, so I'll have to get caught up.
Are they ALL available on the DG site's Home page? Or do I have to wait
for somebody to "nominate" me to get parts of it?

Patrick





--
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Group: potadg Message: 29284 From: ron kenner Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
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yes, very lovely.
we dont see a lot of the color blue in the pota world, so that was nice.
rob/ron

Greg Plonowski <urko3085@...> wrote:
That is a nifty logo, Neil.
 
Greg

"Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...> wrote:
Hey,
 
KIf you haven't checked the home page picture recently, you should.
 
 
Thanks Neil, and I love the logo too!
Michael


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Group: potadg Message: 29285 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Within - when do we get strip 39?
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Group: potadg Message: 29286 From: Michael Whitty Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Within - when do we get strip 39?
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OK – I’ll be at work in around ½ hour.

 

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of taebokitti@...
Sent: Wednesday, 25 May 2005 5:35 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Within - when do we get strip 39?

 

Ok. I nominate myself. Elaine


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Group: potadg Message: 29287 From: Michael Whitty Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
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Neil, is this an original painting of yours?

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ron kenner
Sent: Wednesday, 25 May 2005 2:24 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Home Page Picture

 

yes, very lovely.

we dont see a lot of the color blue in the pota world, so that was nice.

rob/ron

Greg Plonowski <urko3085@...> wrote:

That is a nifty logo, Neil.

 

Greg

"Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...> wrote:

Hey,

 

KIf you haven't checked the home page picture recently, you should.

 

 

Thanks Neil, and I love the logo too!

Michael


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Group: potadg Message: 29288 From: Neil Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Neil, is this an original painting of yours?

-- I wish I could say it was but no it isn't.
It is a cover painted by British artist Arthur Ranson for the weekly
English mag Look-in (the junior TV times) from the mid seventies. I
just 'removed' all the type and restored it to how it probably would
have looked sans the wording.

Of course I then went and covered some of it up again with my logo! ;-)

Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 29289 From: John Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Within Chapter 39
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I nominated Rory.

-- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 5/23/2005 5:33:12 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> nfoster@h... writes:
>
> So who has been nominated to receive it next then?
>
>
>
> I nominated Helen.
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Group: potadg Message: 29290 From: Neil Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Anthony's idea.
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , taebokitti@a... wrote:
>If intermarriage is a storyline you want to explore. Go for it. I
always encourage people to use their imagination.

-- As do I. Imagination is everything, it's just a pity that there
doesn't seem to be a lot of it about these days!

The mixed marriage thing is not something I have a problem with either
why couldn't it happen between the apes? Especially in the more remote
outlying regions.
I think it would be a good addition to a story line. It could also
include some sort of Dragoons / KKK type bunch of apes fiercely
opposed to such mixed marriages.

Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 29291 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Within Chapter 39
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He got it - he just didn't comment.
 
Thanks GOD with the mood he's in!  ;)

Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of John
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 8:11 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Within Chapter 39

I nominated Rory.

-- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:

> In a message dated 5/23/2005 5:33:12 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
> nfoster@h... writes:
>
> So who  has been nominated to receive it next then?
>
>
>
> I nominated Helen.
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Group: potadg Message: 29292 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
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Hey - that could be a short cut for further comics!

Patrick and Elaine, here comes Within.
 
Please enjoy, and please comment - and if you know of anyone else who has missed out please nominate them or yourself.
 
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 7:55 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Home Page Picture

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Neil, is this an original painting of yours?

-- I wish I could say it was but no it isn't.
It is a cover painted by British artist Arthur Ranson for the weekly
English mag Look-in (the junior TV times) from the mid seventies. I
just 'removed' all the type and restored it to how it probably would
have looked sans the wording.

Of course I then went and covered some of it up again with my logo! ;-)

Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 29293 From: John Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Anthony's idea.
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Maybe this is why certain Gorillas uniforms seemed to be a brighter
purple. I think limp wristed, flamboyant ,drag queen apes is an
avenue left unexplored. Who better to travel this forbidden path than
our own Michael and Neil. Here in New Orleans your new take on Planet
of the Apes will make you both Gods. hehehe







--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 5/23/2005 9:13:23 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> Michael.Whitty@d... writes:
> Yup - OK, but it would be interesting to explore, or just discuss
on the
> group, what people think about this!
>
> Michael
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of
> mlccougar@a...
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 2:04 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Anthony's idea.
>
>
> In a message dated 5/23/2005 10:54:40 PM Central Standard Time,
> Michael.Whitty@d... writes:
>
>
> Isn't thaty a gorilla funeral and he has a chimp wife?
>
> Isn't integration of the 3 ape species an interesting question,
relevant to
> the racial themes of the entire series?
>
>
>
> Whitty,
>
> In PLANET, that was just a screw-up and you know it... It's pretty
safe to
> say they just went and used chimp appliances rather than going thru
the trouble
> of creating female gorilla appliances for what would basically be a
background
> ape... Yes, they should have made an actress up properly for the
funeral
> scene, but they didn't... It still doesn't mean that the apes
species would
> intermarry, because it's impossible for them to interbreed because
they are all
> seperate species.
>
> I am not against the idea of some young gorilla being orphaned and
raised by
> a chimp foster parent, or the idea that a gorilla father would
become widowed
> and have his son raised by a chimp nanny, etc. I am just saying
keep their
> species from inter-species marrying...
>
>
> The apes' society would evolve to the point they would intermarry
and when
> their science also evolved, they would find a way to reproduce.
However, in the
> original planet, it is clear (to me anyways) that all three species
do not mix
> through marriage and even rarely socialize. We see them working
together but
> any relationships between the three great apes would have to be
extremely
> hidden. This is also a patriarchal society. My guess is that
> parents may even chose their daughters' husbands. For example, a
gorilla
> general would not want his daughter to marry a soldier but an
officer, let
> alone a chimp or orangutan. Chimps look down upon gorillas, a chimp
> interested in a gorilla might be ostracized from his or her family.
Elaine
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Group: potadg Message: 29294 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
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I haven't been nominated. I nominate myself.

On May 24, 2005, at 5:17 PM, Whitty, Michael wrote:

> Hey - that could be a short cut for further comics!
>
> Patrick and Elaine, here comes Within.
>
> Please enjoy, and please comment - and if you know of anyone else who
> has missed out please nominate them or yourself.
>
> Michael
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ]On Behalf
>> Of Neil
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 7:55 AM
>> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Home Page Picture
>>
>> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
>> > Neil, is this an original painting of yours?
>>
>> -- I wish I could say it was but no it isn't.
>> It is a cover painted by British artist Arthur Ranson for the weekly
>> English mag Look-in (the junior TV times) from the mid seventies. I
>> just 'removed' all the type and restored it to how it probably would
>> have looked sans the wording.
>>
>> Of course I then went and covered some of it up again with my logo!
>> ;-)
>>
>> Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 29295 From: Neil Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , ron kenner <brindlepit2002@y...> wrote:
>we dont see a lot of the color blue in the pota world, so that was
nice.

-- That is something that always slightly bugged me. The dominant
colour always seemed to be orange for POTA skies or backgrounds,
probably because of the TV show begining. It certainly seemed to
influence the colours on some of the better Marvel magazine covers.

Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 29296 From: Neil Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:
> Hey - that could be a short cut for further comics!

-- Another short cut could be if we take an existing Sci-Fi comic and
paste ape heads over the characters and change a few words and names
and... oh right, it's alredy been done. ;-)

neil
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Group: potadg Message: 29297 From: Neil Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:
>Patrick and Elaine, here comes Within.
Please enjoy, and please comment - and if you know of anyone else who
has missed out please nominate them or yourself.

-- Somebody nominate Alan maxwell!

Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 29298 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
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OK!
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Anthony B. McElveen
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 8:21 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Home Page Picture

I haven't been nominated. I nominate myself.

On May 24, 2005, at 5:17 PM, Whitty, Michael wrote:

> Hey - that could be a short cut for further comics!
>
> Patrick and Elaine, here comes Within.
>  
> Please enjoy, and please comment - and if you know of anyone else who
> has missed out please nominate them or yourself.
>  
> Michael
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf
>> Of Neil
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 7:55 AM
>> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Home Page Picture
>>
>> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
>> > Neil, is this an original painting of yours?
>>
>> -- I wish I could say it was but no it isn't.
>> It is a cover painted by British artist Arthur Ranson for the weekly
>> English mag Look-in (the junior TV times) from the mid seventies. I
>> just 'removed' all the type and restored it to how it probably would
>> have looked sans the wording.
>>
>> Of course I then went and covered some of it up again with my logo!
>> ;-)
>>
>> Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 29299 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
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In a message dated 5/24/2005 11:25:59 A.M. Central Standard Time, brindlepit2002@... writes:
yes, very lovely.
we dont see a lot of the color blue in the pota world, so that was nice.
 
I really liked that Blue Zira.
Very refreshing.
 
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Group: potadg Message: 29300 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of LordTZer0@...
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:02 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Home Page Picture

In a message dated 5/24/2005 11:25:59 A.M. Central Standard Time, brindlepit2002@... writes:
yes, very lovely.
we dont see a lot of the color blue in the pota world, so that was nice.
 
I really liked that Blue Zira.
Very refreshing.
 
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Group: potadg Message: 29301 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
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WHAT Blue Zira?!?!?!?!?!?

Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of LordTZer0@...
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:02 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Home Page Picture

In a message dated 5/24/2005 11:25:59 A.M. Central Standard Time, brindlepit2002@... writes:
yes, very lovely.
we dont see a lot of the color blue in the pota world, so that was nice.
 
I really liked that Blue Zira.
Very refreshing.
 
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Group: potadg Message: 29302 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Within Chapter 39
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In a message dated 5/24/2005 5:20:29 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
He got it - he just didn't comment.
 
Thanks GOD with the mood he's in!  ;)
 
I commented.  I said the artwork was great as usual,
but I have to go back and reread the previous ones
before I can comment on the story, because I can't
remember where it left off.  As I recall the last one
had no dialogue.  Was there one after that?
 
 
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Group: potadg Message: 29303 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Within Chapter 39
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Thanks for the comments T.
 
The first strip on this "page" is Ursus asking the apprentice what is his account of the relics.
 
Then there is a strip where the gorillas open a door then this one.
 
Neil, do you have a link to these?
 
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of LordTZer0@...
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:19 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Within Chapter 39

In a message dated 5/24/2005 5:20:29 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
He got it - he just didn't comment.
 
Thanks GOD with the mood he's in!  ;)
 
I commented.  I said the artwork was great as usual,
but I have to go back and reread the previous ones
before I can comment on the story, because I can't
remember where it left off.  As I recall the last one
had no dialogue.  Was there one after that?
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Group: potadg Message: 29304 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
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In a message dated 5/24/2005 6:16:46 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
WHAT Blue Zira?!?!?!?!?!?
 
I think it's in the files somewhere.
I used to have it on my drive.  I
must have put it on disc or something.
Someone had her painted, by a Korean
artist I believe, and they did her jacket
in blue instead of green.
 
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Group: potadg Message: 29305 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
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Would love to see it if you dig it up.
 
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of LordTZer0@...
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:49 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Home Page Picture

In a message dated 5/24/2005 6:16:46 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
WHAT Blue Zira?!?!?!?!?!?
 
I think it's in the files somewhere.
I used to have it on my drive.  I
must have put it on disc or something.
Someone had her painted, by a Korean
artist I believe, and they did her jacket
in blue instead of green.
<.html

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Group: potadg Message: 29306 From: Neil Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Within Chapter 39
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:
> The first strip on this "page" is Ursus asking the apprentice what
is his account of the relics.
Then there is a strip where the gorillas open a door then this one.
Neil, do you have a link to these?

-- No I don't have one on me at the moment. ;-)

Just go to the files section and look in the Within folder, they are
all there.

Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 29307 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/24/2005
Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
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    In a message dated 5/24/2005 7:06:36 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
    Would love to see it if you dig it up.
     
    Well, the good news is I found it.
    Bad news is it's the version someone
    Photoshopped back to green.  Does
    anyone in any of the groups have a
    copy of the original blue one?
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 29308 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 5/25/2005
    Subject: Marvel UK issue 32
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    Marvel UK issue 32 is now available to download from Hunter's site. Aside from the next thrilling chapter in the Derek Zane storyline, there is also an interview with Wally Harton, who served as chief costumer on Planet, Beneath and Battle. Finally, the back cover has a color photo of Cornelius and Zira and teases the upcoming adaptation of Beneath, just a few short weeks away.
     
     
    Greg
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    Group: potadg Message: 29309 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 5/25/2005
    Subject: Re: Anthony's idea.
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    In a message dated 5/24/2005 3:15:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:
    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
    >If intermarriage is a storyline you want to explore. Go for it. I
    always encourage people to use their imagination.

    -- As do I. Imagination is everything, it's just a pity that there
    doesn't seem to be a lot of it about these days!

    The mixed marriage thing is not something I have a problem with either
    why couldn't it happen between the apes? Especially in the more remote
    outlying regions.
    I think it would be a good addition to a story line. It could also
    include some sort of Dragoons / KKK type bunch of apes fiercely
    opposed to such mixed marriages.

    Neil




         There could also be apes having relationships in secret. For example, maybe a high ranking gorilla is seeing a chimp in secret etc. Elaine
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    Group: potadg Message: 29310 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 5/25/2005
    Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
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    .html I like that pic of Urko looking at Galen. Elaine<.html
    <.html
    Group: potadg Message: 29311 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 5/25/2005
    Subject: Re: Anthony's idea.
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    .html
    In a message dated 5/24/2005 3:21:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, DrZaiusDavis@... writes:
    Maybe this is why certain Gorillas uniforms seemed to be a brighter
    purple. I think limp wristed, flamboyant ,drag queen apes is an
    avenue left unexplored. Who better to travel this forbidden path than
    our own Michael and Neil. Here in New Orleans your new take on Planet
    of the Apes will make you both Gods. hehehe

    A mardi gras of apes would be great! Elaine





    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
    > In a message dated 5/23/2005 9:13:23 PM Pacific Standard Time,
    > Michael.Whitty@d... writes:
    > Yup - OK, but it would be interesting to explore, or just discuss
    on the
    > group, what people think about this!
    >
    > Michael
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On
    Behalf Of
    > mlccougar@a...
    > Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 2:04 PM
    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Anthony's idea.
    >
    >
    > In a message dated 5/23/2005 10:54:40 PM Central Standard Time,
    > Michael.Whitty@d... writes:
    >
    >
    > Isn't thaty a gorilla funeral and he has a chimp wife?
    >  
    > Isn't integration of the 3 ape species an interesting question,
    relevant to
    > the racial themes of the entire series?
    >
    >
    >
    > Whitty,
    >
    > In PLANET, that was just a screw-up and you know it... It's pretty
    safe to
    > say they just went and used chimp appliances rather than going thru
    the trouble
    > of creating female gorilla appliances for what would basically be a
    background
    > ape... Yes, they should have made an actress up properly for the
    funeral
    > scene, but they didn't... It still doesn't mean that the apes
    species would
    > intermarry, because it's impossible for them to interbreed because
    they are all
    > seperate species.
    >
    > I am not against the idea of some young gorilla being orphaned and
    raised by
    > a chimp foster parent, or the idea that a gorilla father would
    become widowed
    > and have his son raised by a chimp nanny, etc. I am just saying
    keep their
    > species from inter-species marrying...
    >
    >
    > The apes' society would evolve to the point they would intermarry
    and when
    > their science also evolved, they would find a way to reproduce.
    However, in the
    > original planet, it is clear (to me anyways) that all three species
    do not mix
    > through marriage and even rarely socialize. We see them working
    together but
    > any relationships between the three great apes would have to be
    extremely
    > hidden. This is also a patriarchal society. My guess is that
    > parents may even chose their daughters' husbands. For example, a
    gorilla
    > general would not want his daughter to marry a soldier but an
    officer, let
    > alone a chimp or orangutan. Chimps look down upon gorillas, a chimp
    > interested in a gorilla might be ostracized from his or her family.
    Elaine




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    Group: potadg Message: 29312 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 5/25/2005
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    .html Great artwork as usual. I like the denial part and the possible explanation that the forefathers were playing a joke. This suggests that the apes believe their forefathers had a sense of humor or they manipulate history to suit them. Great job! Elaine<.html
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    Group: potadg Message: 29313 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
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    Thanks Elaine.
     
    A couple of things I have always been interested in exploring:

    (1) What really is IRREFUTIBLE evidence of an advanced human culture?
     
    (2) How could Zaius POSSIBLY explain evidence of an advanced culture, as anything BUT an advanced culture?

    Michael
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    Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 12:02 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Within 39

    Great artwork as usual. I like the denial part and the possible explanation that the forefathers were playing a joke. This suggests that the apes believe their forefathers had a sense of humor or they manipulate history to suit them. Great job! Elaine
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    Group: potadg Message: 29314 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 5/25/2005
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    Who is looking for the blue Zira painting. If you want to see it, I have it
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    Group: potadg Message: 29315 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
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    Come on, let's have it!
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of PofTAfan@...
    Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 9:20 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Home Page Picture

    Who is looking for the blue Zira painting. If you want to see it, I have it
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    Group: potadg Message: 29316 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 5/25/2005
    Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
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      Here you go.
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      Group: potadg Message: 29317 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
      Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
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      Who painted this?
      -----Original Message-----
      From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of PofTAfan@...
      Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 9:25 AM
      To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Home Page Picture

      Here you go.
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      Group: potadg Message: 29318 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 5/25/2005
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                    It was done by a Korean artist named Mr. Park when I was stationed at Osan AB in South Korea. He also did three other painting. Zira and Cornelius kissing, and two paintings of Kim Hunter, one of them I sent to her in 1985.
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      Group: potadg Message: 29319 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
      Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
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      Do you have these on hand?
      -----Original Message-----
      From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of PofTAfan@...
      Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 9:34 AM
      To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Home Page Picture

                    It was done by a Korean artist named Mr. Park when I was stationed at Osan AB in South Korea. He also did three other painting. Zira and Cornelius kissing, and two paintings of Kim Hunter, one of them I sent to her in 1985.
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      Group: potadg Message: 29320 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 5/25/2005
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      I do. The Zira and Cornelius painting is above my art table downstairs, but the Kim Hunter painting I have in my portfolio. I may have to take photos of these two for you to look at. I will get back with the photos. 
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      Group: potadg Message: 29321 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
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      Many thanks.
       
      Michael
      -----Original Message-----
      From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of PofTAfan@...
      Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 9:46 AM
      To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Home Page Picture

      I do. The Zira and Cornelius painting is above my art table downstairs, but the Kim Hunter painting I have in my portfolio. I may have to take photos of these two for you to look at. I will get back with the photos. 
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      Group: potadg Message: 29322 From: luke_the_drifter52 Date: 5/25/2005
      Subject: The Newest Within Strip
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      For those of you who have not seen the new strip yet, you WILL NOT be
      dissapointed.
      Once again the art work is outstanding!! It looks like a slide from
      the movie. They are so life like and look just like Zaius and Ursus.
      But, like the last strip, this one will keep you wanting more and more
      and more!!!
      Does any one know how many strips this comic will have as of yet?
      Well, it is my time to nominate someone and at the present I don't
      know who has or has not seen the new strip. Anybody out there needs me
      to nominate them?
      John
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      Group: potadg Message: 29323 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 5/25/2005
      Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
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        Here's the photos. I tried to send them the first time but the files were too big. So here I go again
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        Group: potadg Message: 29324 From: luke_the_drifter52 Date: 5/25/2005
        Subject: Sideshow Taylor and Nova
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        I don't know if any one else received theirs or not yet but my Taylor
        and Nova showed up last night.
        I know a lot of people have listed their dissapointment about the
        Sideshow Ape figures but so far I have been very pleasd and impressed
        with them. I hope they resculpt Caesars head though to look more like
        Caesar from Conquest instead of Cornelius.
        I met a guy on Ebay who cutom painted my Soldier Apes head and I think
        the new paint job is outstanding. If any one is interested I can post
        a pic of what he looks like now. I think he looks more life like
        anyway.
        John
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        Group: potadg Message: 29325 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/25/2005
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        In a message dated 5/25/2005 7:26:27 P.M. Central Standard Time, JLKINSER1970@... writes:
        They are so life like and look just like Zaius and Ursus.
         
        Okay, wait!  Something just occurred to me.
        We've seen Milo, Ursus & Zaius.  Why no
        Zira & Cornelius as main characters?
         
         
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        Group: potadg Message: 29326 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
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        Thanks so much for sharing these!
         
        My fave is "The Kiss".
         
        I think T will have a comment on the Kim!

        Michael
        -----Original Message-----
        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of PofTAfan@...
        Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 10:24 AM
        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Home Page Picture

        Here's the photos. I tried to send them the first time but the files were too big. So here I go again
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        Group: potadg Message: 29327 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
        Subject: Re: Sideshow Taylor and Nova
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        Yes please!
         
        Michael
        -----Original Message-----
        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of luke_the_drifter52
        Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 10:31 AM
        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [PotaDG] Sideshow Taylor and Nova

        I don't know if any one else received theirs or not yet but my Taylor
        and Nova showed up last night.
        I know a lot of people have listed their dissapointment about the
        Sideshow Ape figures but so far I have been very pleasd and impressed
        with them. I hope they resculpt Caesars head though to look more like
        Caesar from Conquest instead of Cornelius.
        I met a guy on Ebay who cutom painted my Soldier Apes head and I think
        the new paint job is outstanding. If any one is interested I can post
        a pic of what he looks like now. I think he looks more life like
        anyway.
        John
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        Group: potadg Message: 29328 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/25/2005
        Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
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        In a message dated 5/25/2005 7:48:52 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
        I think T will have a comment on the Kim!
         
        No comment.
         
        See, you can be wrong.
         
         
         
         
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        Group: potadg Message: 29329 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
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        It ain't finished YET!
         
        And who says it IS Milo?
         
        Michael
        -----Original Message-----
        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of LordTZer0@...
        Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 10:43 AM
        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [PotaDG] The Newest Within Strip

        In a message dated 5/25/2005 7:26:27 P.M. Central Standard Time, JLKINSER1970@... writes:
        They are so life like and look just like Zaius and Ursus.
         
        Okay, wait!  Something just occurred to me.
        We've seen Milo, Ursus & Zaius.  Why no
        Zira & Cornelius as main characters?
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        Group: potadg Message: 29330 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
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        Fair enough.
         
        Do you like the painting?
        -----Original Message-----
        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of LordTZer0@...
        Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 10:52 AM
        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Home Page Picture

        In a message dated 5/25/2005 7:48:52 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
        I think T will have a comment on the Kim!
         
        No comment.
         
        See, you can be wrong.
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        Group: potadg Message: 29331 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/25/2005
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        In a message dated 5/25/2005 7:57:21 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
        And who says it IS Milo?
         
        I thought someone said it was Milo,
        but I could be wrong.
         
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        Group: potadg Message: 29332 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/25/2005
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        In a message dated 5/25/2005 7:59:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
        Do you like the painting?
         
        I didn't really give it the once over.
        I'm going to clean it up a bit first.
         
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        Group: potadg Message: 29333 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
        Subject: Re: The Newest Within Strip
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        Someone said, but it is not confirmed.
        -----Original Message-----
        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of LordTZer0@...
        Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:03 AM
        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [PotaDG] The Newest Within Strip

        In a message dated 5/25/2005 7:57:21 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
        And who says it IS Milo?
         
        I thought someone said it was Milo,
        but I could be wrong.
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        Group: potadg Message: 29334 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
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        Cool.
         
        And you were right that I was wrong, but now I am right because now you HAVE commented!  right?
         
        Miucahel  ;)
        -----Original Message-----
        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of LordTZer0@...
        Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:04 AM
        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Home Page Picture

        In a message dated 5/25/2005 7:59:43 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
        Do you like the painting?
         
        I didn't really give it the once over.
        I'm going to clean it up a bit first.
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        Group: potadg Message: 29335 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/25/2005
        Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
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        In a message dated 5/25/2005 8:09:52 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
        And you were right that I was wrong, but now I am right because now you HAVE commented!  right?
         
        Not on the painting itself.
        Just that the pic need cleaning up.
         
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        Group: potadg Message: 29336 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/25/2005
        Subject: Re: The Newest Within Strip
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        In a message dated 5/25/2005 8:11:04 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
        Someone said, but it is not confirmed.
         
        Ah ha!
        Then I was RIGHT that someone said that.
         
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        Group: potadg Message: 29337 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
        Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
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        DAMMIT!

        I'll get you to comment eventually!  :)
        -----Original Message-----
        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of LordTZer0@...
        Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:16 AM
        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Home Page Picture

        In a message dated 5/25/2005 8:09:52 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
        And you were right that I was wrong, but now I am right because now you HAVE commented!  right?
         
        Not on the painting itself.
        Just that the pic need cleaning up.
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        Group: potadg Message: 29338 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
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        YES!
         
        Keep this email - I may deny this admission in the near future!
        -----Original Message-----
        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of LordTZer0@...
        Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:16 AM
        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [PotaDG] The Newest Within Strip

        In a message dated 5/25/2005 8:11:04 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
        Someone said, but it is not confirmed.
         
        Ah ha!
        Then I was RIGHT that someone said that.
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        Group: potadg Message: 29339 From: Melinda G Kettler Date: 5/25/2005
        Subject: Re: The Newest Within Strip
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        I'd like to see the "Within Strip" please.
         
        Melinda
         
        Message: 15       
           Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 00:23:48 -0000
           From: "luke_the_drifter52" <JLKINSER1970@...>
        Subject: The Newest Within Strip

        Well, it is my time to nominate someone and at the present I don't
        know who has or has not seen the new strip. Anybody out there needs me
        to nominate them?
        John

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        Group: potadg Message: 29340 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
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        Your wish is my conmmand!
        -----Original Message-----
        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Melinda G Kettler
        Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:24 AM
        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [PotaDG] Re: The Newest Within Strip

        I'd like to see the "Within Strip" please.
         
        Melinda
         
        Message: 15       
           Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 00:23:48 -0000
           From: "luke_the_drifter52" <JLKINSER1970@...>
        Subject: The Newest Within Strip

        Well, it is my time to nominate someone and at the present I don't
        know who has or has not seen the new strip. Anybody out there needs me
        to nominate them?
        John

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        Group: potadg Message: 29341 From: luke_the_drifter52 Date: 5/25/2005
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        Ok!!! I nominate Melinda as the next to see the newest Within the
        Planet of the Apes strip!!!
        John
        > I'd like to see the "Within Strip" please.
        >
        > Melinda
        >
        > Message: 15
        > Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 00:23:48 -0000
        > From: "luke_the_drifter52" <JLKINSER1970@h...>
        > Subject: The Newest Within Strip
        >
        > Well, it is my time to nominate someone and at the present I don't
        > know who has or has not seen the new strip. Anybody out there needs
        me
        > to nominate them?
        > John
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        Group: potadg Message: 29342 From: Melinda G Kettler Date: 5/25/2005
        Subject: Re: Zira Paintings
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        Will somebody upload the Zira paintings to the group website?  I'm on digest, and I can't see the pictures in email.
         
        Melinda
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        Group: potadg Message: 29343 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
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        Done!
        -----Original Message-----
        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of luke_the_drifter52
        Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:27 AM
        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [PotaDG] Re: The Newest Within Strip

        Ok!!! I nominate Melinda as the next to see the newest Within the
        Planet of the Apes strip!!!
        John
        > I'd like to see the "Within Strip" please.
        >
        > Melinda
        >
        > Message: 15       
        >    Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 00:23:48 -0000
        >    From: "luke_the_drifter52" <JLKINSER1970@h...>
        > Subject: The Newest Within Strip
        >
        > Well, it is my time to nominate someone and at the present I don't
        > know who has or has not seen the new strip. Anybody out there needs
        me
        > to nominate them?
        > John
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        Group: potadg Message: 29344 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
        Subject: Re: Zira Paintings
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        I think they are too large!

        Neil is off line right now, but if you ask him REAL nice he might put them somewhere!!!

        Michael
        -----Original Message-----
        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Melinda G Kettler
        Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:27 AM
        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Zira Paintings

        Will somebody upload the Zira paintings to the group website?  I'm on digest, and I can't see the pictures in email.
         
        Melinda
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        Group: potadg Message: 29345 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 5/25/2005
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        I like to nominate myself.....Please!!!
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        Group: potadg Message: 29346 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
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        Done!
        -----Original Message-----
        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of PofTAfan@...
        Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:29 AM
        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: The Newest Within Strip

        I like to nominate myself.....Please!!!
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        Group: potadg Message: 29347 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 5/25/2005
        Subject: Re: The Newest Within Strip
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        Thanks
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        Group: potadg Message: 29348 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
        Subject: Re: The Newest Within Strip
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        That's OK!
         
        COMMENT!!!

        Michael
        -----Original Message-----
        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of PofTAfan@...
        Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:31 AM
        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: The Newest Within Strip

        Thanks
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        Group: potadg Message: 29349 From: luke_the_drifter52 Date: 5/25/2005
        Subject: Re: Sideshow Taylor and Nova
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        --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael"
        <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:



        > Yes please!
        >
        > Michael
        >
        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On
        Behalf Of
        > luke_the_drifter52
        > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 10:31 AM
        > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        > Subject: [PotaDG] Sideshow Taylor and Nova
        >
        >
        > I don't know if any one else received theirs or not yet but my
        Taylor
        > and Nova showed up last night.
        > I know a lot of people have listed their dissapointment about the
        > Sideshow Ape figures but so far I have been very pleasd and
        impressed
        > with them. I hope they resculpt Caesars head though to look more
        like
        > Caesar from Conquest instead of Cornelius.
        > I met a guy on Ebay who cutom painted my Soldier Apes head and I
        think
        > the new paint job is outstanding. If any one is interested I can
        post
        > a pic of what he looks like now. I think he looks more life like
        > anyway.
        > John
        >
        >
        Group: potadg Message: 29350 From: luke_the_drifter52 Date: 5/25/2005
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        I posted them in a folder called Sideshow Custom Soldier Ape. If you
        like them and want to know the guys email address who painted them
        let me know and I will send his email address to you. I told him
        about the group and he talked like he was going to join. I don't
        know if he ever did or not
        John


        <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
        > Yes please!
        >
        > Michael
        >
        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On
        Behalf Of
        > luke_the_drifter52
        > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 10:31 AM
        > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        > Subject: [PotaDG] Sideshow Taylor and Nova
        >
        >
        > I don't know if any one else received theirs or not yet but my
        Taylor
        > and Nova showed up last night.
        > I know a lot of people have listed their dissapointment about the
        > Sideshow Ape figures but so far I have been very pleasd and
        impressed
        > with them. I hope they resculpt Caesars head though to look more
        like
        > Caesar from Conquest instead of Cornelius.
        > I met a guy on Ebay who cutom painted my Soldier Apes head and I
        think
        > the new paint job is outstanding. If any one is interested I can
        post
        > a pic of what he looks like now. I think he looks more life like
        > anyway.
        > John
        >
        >
        Group: potadg Message: 29351 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
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        Something is missing John!
        -----Original Message-----
        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of luke_the_drifter52
        Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:38 AM
        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Sideshow Taylor and Nova

        --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
        <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:



        > Yes please!

        > Michael
        >
        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On
        Behalf Of
        > luke_the_drifter52
        > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 10:31 AM
        > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        > Subject: [PotaDG] Sideshow Taylor and Nova
        >
        >
        > I don't know if any one else received theirs or not yet but my
        Taylor
        > and Nova showed up last night.
        > I know a lot of people have listed their dissapointment about the
        > Sideshow Ape figures but so far I have been very pleasd and
        impressed
        > with them. I hope they resculpt Caesars head though to look more
        like
        > Caesar from Conquest instead of Cornelius.
        > I met a guy on Ebay who cutom painted my Soldier Apes head and I
        think
        > the new paint job is outstanding. If any one is interested I can
        post
        > a pic of what he looks like now. I think he looks more life like
        > anyway.
        > John
         
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        Group: potadg Message: 29352 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
        Subject: Re: Sideshow Taylor and Nova
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        Would love his details.
         
        Michael
        -----Original Message-----
        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of luke_the_drifter52
        Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:40 AM
        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Sideshow Taylor and Nova

        I posted them in a folder called Sideshow Custom Soldier Ape. If you
        like them and want to know the guys email address who painted them
        let me know and I will send his email address to you. I told him
        about the group and he talked like he was going to join. I don't
        know if he ever did or not
        John


        <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
        > Yes please!

        > Michael
        >
        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On
        Behalf Of
        > luke_the_drifter52
        > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 10:31 AM
        > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        > Subject: [PotaDG] Sideshow Taylor and Nova
        >
        >
        > I don't know if any one else received theirs or not yet but my
        Taylor
        > and Nova showed up last night.
        > I know a lot of people have listed their dissapointment about the
        > Sideshow Ape figures but so far I have been very pleasd and
        impressed
        > with them. I hope they resculpt Caesars head though to look more
        like
        > Caesar from Conquest instead of Cornelius.
        > I met a guy on Ebay who cutom painted my Soldier Apes head and I
        think
        > the new paint job is outstanding. If any one is interested I can
        post
        > a pic of what he looks like now. I think he looks more life like
        > anyway.
        > John
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        Group: potadg Message: 29353 From: luke_the_drifter52 Date: 5/25/2005
        Subject: Re: Sideshow Taylor and Nova
        .html
        Sorry, my I hit the send button by mistake before I wrote anything.

        In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
        wrote:
        > Something is missing John!
        >
        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On
        Behalf Of
        > luke_the_drifter52
        > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:38 AM
        > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Sideshow Taylor and Nova
        >
        >
        > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
        > <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
        >
        >
        >
        > > Yes please!
        > >
        > > Michael
        > >
        > > -----Original Message-----
        > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ]On
        > Behalf Of
        > > luke_the_drifter52
        > > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 10:31 AM
        > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        > > Subject: [PotaDG] Sideshow Taylor and Nova
        > >
        > >
        > > I don't know if any one else received theirs or not yet but my
        > Taylor
        > > and Nova showed up last night.
        > > I know a lot of people have listed their dissapointment about
        the
        > > Sideshow Ape figures but so far I have been very pleasd and
        > impressed
        > > with them. I hope they resculpt Caesars head though to look more
        > like
        > > Caesar from Conquest instead of Cornelius.
        > > I met a guy on Ebay who cutom painted my Soldier Apes head and I
        > think
        > > the new paint job is outstanding. If any one is interested I can
        > post
        > > a pic of what he looks like now. I think he looks more life like
        > > anyway.
        > > John
        >
        >
        >
        >
        Group: potadg Message: 29354 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
        Subject: Re: Sideshow Taylor and Nova
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        That's OK do it again - we need the volume of posts!  :)
         
        We are struggling to get to the average 1000 posts per month.

        Michael
        -----Original Message-----
        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of luke_the_drifter52
        Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:42 AM
        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Sideshow Taylor and Nova

        Sorry, my I hit the send button by mistake before I wrote anything.

        In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
        wrote:
        > Something is missing John!
        >
        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On
        Behalf Of
        > luke_the_drifter52
        > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:38 AM
        > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Sideshow Taylor and Nova
        >
        >
        > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
        > <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
        >
        >
        >
        > > Yes please!
        > > 
        > > Michael
        > >
        > > -----Original Message-----
        > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On
        > Behalf Of
        > > luke_the_drifter52
        > > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 10:31 AM
        > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        > > Subject: [PotaDG] Sideshow Taylor and Nova
        > >
        > >
        > > I don't know if any one else received theirs or not yet but my
        > Taylor
        > > and Nova showed up last night.
        > > I know a lot of people have listed their dissapointment about
        the
        > > Sideshow Ape figures but so far I have been very pleasd and
        > impressed
        > > with them. I hope they resculpt Caesars head though to look more
        > like
        > > Caesar from Conquest instead of Cornelius.
        > > I met a guy on Ebay who cutom painted my Soldier Apes head and I
        > think
        > > the new paint job is outstanding. If any one is interested I can
        > post
        > > a pic of what he looks like now. I think he looks more life like
        > > anyway.
        > > John
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        Group: potadg Message: 29355 From: luke_the_drifter52 Date: 5/25/2005
        Subject: Re: Sideshow Taylor and Nova
        .html
        I sent you his email address buy email. Did you see the pictures of
        the Ape he painted for me? What do you think of him?
        John
        - In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
        wrote:
        > That's OK do it again - we need the volume of posts! :)
        >
        > We are struggling to get to the average 1000 posts per month.
        >
        > Michael
        >
        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On
        Behalf Of
        > luke_the_drifter52
        > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:42 AM
        > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Sideshow Taylor and Nova
        >
        >
        > Sorry, my I hit the send button by mistake before I wrote anything.
        >
        > In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
        > wrote:
        > > Something is missing John!
        > >
        > > -----Original Message-----
        > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ]On
        > Behalf Of
        > > luke_the_drifter52
        > > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:38 AM
        > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Sideshow Taylor and Nova
        > >
        > >
        > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
        > > <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > > > Yes please!
        > > >
        > > > Michael
        > > >
        > > > -----Original Message-----
        > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ]On
        > > Behalf Of
        > > > luke_the_drifter52
        > > > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 10:31 AM
        > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        > > > Subject: [PotaDG] Sideshow Taylor and Nova
        > > >
        > > >
        > > > I don't know if any one else received theirs or not yet but my
        > > Taylor
        > > > and Nova showed up last night.
        > > > I know a lot of people have listed their dissapointment about
        > the
        > > > Sideshow Ape figures but so far I have been very pleasd and
        > > impressed
        > > > with them. I hope they resculpt Caesars head though to look
        more
        > > like
        > > > Caesar from Conquest instead of Cornelius.
        > > > I met a guy on Ebay who cutom painted my Soldier Apes head and
        I
        > > think
        > > > the new paint job is outstanding. If any one is interested I
        can
        > > post
        > > > a pic of what he looks like now. I think he looks more life
        like
        > > > anyway.
        > > > John
        >
        >
        Group: potadg Message: 29356 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/25/2005
        Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
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          In a message dated 5/25/2005 8:21:32 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
          I'll get you to comment eventually!  :)
           
          You want it. Mike?
          You got it.
          It's quite good.
           
          Here it is as best as I could get it.
           
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          Group: potadg Message: 29357 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 5/25/2005
          Subject: Within Chapter 39
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          It seems that Dr. Zaius is unconcerned with inquisitive chimps who find
          out the truth about Man, so long as he can keep them from sharing the
          information with others. Will Zaius silence Garvon's assistant as he
          did Zira and Cornelius, or will this chimp rebel? What can he do before
          time runs out?

          Great artwork, as always, but why does Ursus dress like Urko?
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          Group: potadg Message: 29358 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
          Subject: Re: Sideshow Taylor and Nova
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          Looks a lot better with the paint job!

          Michael
          -----Original Message-----
          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of luke_the_drifter52
          Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:51 AM
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Sideshow Taylor and Nova

          I sent you his email address buy email. Did you see the pictures of
          the Ape he painted for me? What do you think of him?
          John
          - In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
          wrote:
          > That's OK do it again - we need the volume of posts!  :)

          > We are struggling to get to the average 1000 posts per month.
          >
          > Michael
          >
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          Group: potadg Message: 29359 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
          Subject: Re: Home Page Picture
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          Thanks T.
          -----Original Message-----
          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of LordTZer0@...
          Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:51 AM
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Home Page Picture

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          Group: potadg Message: 29360 From: luke_the_drifter52 Date: 5/25/2005
          Subject: Re: Sideshow Taylor and Nova
          .html
          I thought so too!!

          In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
          wrote:
          > Looks a lot better with the paint job!
          >
          > Michael
          >
          > -----Original Message-----
          > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On
          Behalf Of
          > luke_the_drifter52
          > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:51 AM
          > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Sideshow Taylor and Nova
          >
          >
          > I sent you his email address buy email. Did you see the pictures
          of
          > the Ape he painted for me? What do you think of him?
          > John
          > - In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
          <Michael.Whitty@d...>
          > wrote:
          > > That's OK do it again - we need the volume of posts! :)
          > >
          > > We are struggling to get to the average 1000 posts per month.
          > >
          > > Michael
          > >
          >
          >
          Group: potadg Message: 29361 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 5/25/2005
          Subject: Re: Within Chapter 39
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          Garvon's assistant will be driven by guilt and fear now.
           
          He knows not to share his findings.......he feels responsible for his mentor's death.
           
          Ursus - dress like Urko - NEIL?
          -----Original Message-----
          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Anthony B. McElveen
          Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:52 AM
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [PotaDG] Within Chapter 39

          It seems that Dr. Zaius is unconcerned with inquisitive chimps who find
          out the truth about Man, so long as he can keep them from sharing the
          information with others. Will Zaius silence Garvon's assistant as he
          did Zira and Cornelius, or will this chimp rebel? What can he do before
          time runs out?

          Great artwork, as always, but why does Ursus dress like Urko?
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          Group: potadg Message: 29362 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 5/25/2005
          Subject: Re: Zira Paintings
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            In a message dated 5/25/2005 8:29:19 P.M. Central Standard Time, mgkettler@... writes:
            Will somebody upload the Zira paintings to the group website?  I'm on digest, and I can't see the pictures in email.
             
            Here's as good as I could get it.
            Maybe someone can fix the flash.
            I don't think I can fix it with just a
            Paint program. Looks like the sun
            is bouncing off Cornelius' wristwatch.
             
             
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            Group: potadg Message: 29363 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/25/2005
            Subject: Anniversary Reminder
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            Anniversary Anniversary Reminder from the Calendar of PotaDG
            Beneath Premier

            Thursday May 26, 2005
            All Day
            This event repeats every year.
            The next reminder for this event will be sent in 11 minutes.

            Notes:
            The movie Beneath the Planet of the Apes premiered on this day in 1970

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            Group: potadg Message: 29364 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 5/25/2005
            Subject: Anniversary Reminder
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            .html
            Anniversary Anniversary Reminder from the Calendar of PotaDG
            Beneath Premier

            Thursday May 26, 2005
            All Day
            This event repeats every year.

            Notes:
            The movie Beneath the Planet of the Apes premiered on this day in 1970

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            Group: potadg Message: 29365 From: PhoenixCa7@aol.com Date: 5/25/2005
            Subject: Re: The Newest Within Strip
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            I would really love to see this strip. It sounds great!
             
            Jim
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            Group: potadg Message: 29366 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 5/25/2005
            Subject: Re: Evidence
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            In a message dated 5/25/2005 2:56:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
            Thanks Elaine.
             
            A couple of things I have always been interested in exploring:

            (1) What really is IRREFUTIBLE evidence of an advanced human culture?
             
            (2) How could Zaius POSSIBLY explain evidence of an advanced culture, as anything BUT an advanced culture?

            Michael
            -----Original Message-----
            From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of taebokitti@...
            Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 12:02 AM
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: [PotaDG] Within 39

            Great artwork as usual. I like the denial part and the possible explanation that the forefathers were playing a joke. This suggests that the apes believe their forefathers had a sense of humor or they manipulate history to suit them. Great job! Elaine


             I guess any artifact discovered that represents an advanced form of technology. Evidence that a civilization had medicine and mathematics(the Mayans come to mind). Elaine  
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            Group: potadg Message: 29367 From: Michael Whitty Date: 5/26/2005
            Subject: Re: Evidence
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            So how would Zaius explain these?

             

            -----Original Message-----
            From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of taebokitti@...
            Sent:
            Thursday, 26 May 2005 2:17 PM
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Evidence

             

            In a message dated 5/25/2005 2:56:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

            Thanks Elaine.

             

            A couple of things I have always been interested in exploring:

            (1) What really is IRREFUTIBLE evidence of an advanced human culture?

             

            (2) How could Zaius POSSIBLY explain evidence of an advanced culture, as anything BUT an advanced culture?

            Michael

            -----Original Message-----
            From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of taebokitti@...
            Sent:
            Thursday, May 26, 2005 12:02 AM
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: [PotaDG] Within 39

            Great artwork as usual. I like the denial part and the possible explanation that the forefathers were playing a joke. This suggests that the apes believe their forefathers had a sense of humor or they manipulate history to suit them. Great job! Elaine


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