Hi Guys,

Thanks to Greg and Hunter for this.

Also sorry to all you chaps for my ---- c o n t i n u e d ---
absence. I don't mean anything by it. (Honest Michael!)

I'll be back this summer.

Love and genuine best wishes to you all...

Mark T-B.

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of sparkytb2005
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 9:28 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Good Seeds script

Hi Guys,

Thanks to Greg and Hunter for this.

Also sorry to all you chaps for my  ---- c o n t i n u e d ---
absence.  I don't mean anything by it.  (Honest Michael!)

I'll be back this summer.

Love and genuine best wishes to you all...

Mark T-B.

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Thanks Greg.

 

So what are the scripts that you require to complete the series?

Michael

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Greg Plonowski
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 10:31 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] New script on Hunter's site

The Horse Race and The Deception.

 

Mark has The Horse Race and is currently in the process of scanning it for me to clean and make into a PDF.

 

Greg

"Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...> wrote:

Thanks Greg.

 

So what are the scripts that you require to complete the series?

Michael

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So we need somebody to come up with THE DECEPTION and that's the collection completed?

Michael

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Greg Plonowski
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 10:39 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] New script on Hunter's site

Yes. Then we can start looking for Return scripts.

 

Greg

"Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...> wrote:

So we need somebody to come up with THE DECEPTION and that's the collection completed?

Michael

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Greg Plonowski
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 10:41 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Good Seeds script

The big thanks really go to Mark Rogers, who acquired the script and put in a considerable amount of time scanning it.

 

Greg 

sparkytb2005 <sparkytb@...> wrote:

Hi Guys,

Thanks to Greg and Hunter for this.

Mark T-B.

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In a message dated 6/3/2005 6:32:19 P.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

Maybe Taylor had them up his butt all during PLANET.

 

Of course!  So when they're a couple thousand years in the future,

on an alien planet, the aliens will find them when they give 'em the

probe.  Yeah, I cannot imagine the vets not finding them on him.

 

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In memory of those who went first ; Alan Virdon — Captain, Peter Burke — Pilot, Edward Jones — Navigator. Crew of the Interstella Mission 1, Lost August 1988. Gone but not forgotten.

"I wonder Pete," whispered Virdon, "if this means we will never return or is it just a product of a future not to exist?"

"Maybe that's our own future to decide," replied his friend.

THE END


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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 10:57 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New script on Hunter's site

In a message dated 6/5/05 7:04:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

In memory of those who went first ; Alan Virdon — Captain, Peter Burke — Pilot, Edward Jones — Navigator. Crew of the Interstella Mission 1, Lost August 1988. Gone but not forgotten.

"I wonder Pete," whispered Virdon, "if this means we will never return or is it just a product of a future not to exist?"

"Maybe that's our own future to decide," replied his friend.

THE END

If they go back to their own time they start another timeline!  OH YES!

-- Rory

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Are there ANY Return scripts around?

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Greg Plonowski
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 10:39 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] New script on Hunter's site

Yes. Then we can start looking for Return scripts.

 

Greg

"Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...> wrote:

So we need somebody to come up with THE DECEPTION and that's the collection completed?

Michael

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Greg Plonowski
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 11:03 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] New script on Hunter's site

I've never seen one, but there had to be scripts, at least for the voice actors to read from.

 

Greg

"Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...> wrote:

Are there ANY Return scripts around?

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Greg Plonowski
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 10:39 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] New script on Hunter's site

Yes. Then we can start looking for Return scripts.

 

Greg

"Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...> wrote:

So we need somebody to come up with THE DECEPTION and that's the collection completed?

Michael

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of PhoenixCa7@...
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 1:57 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Within 39 and Going Home

This is very exciting to hear! I can't wait to see what comes out of all this. Between your Apes and "superhero" comics, it should be great fun! I hope to be there for all of it!

 

Jim

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OK, I was at the relatively small Card/Comic show yesterday here in
Ottawa. One of the guests was an artists named Tom Fowler. I was just
browsing around the area while he was talking to this guy telling him
some of his upcoming projects when he uttered the magic words: "Planet
of the Apes".

My jaw dropped and I twitched while politely waiting for him finish
his conversation with the guy he was talking to. Then, the moment he
was free I started asking a lot of questions. Unfortunately he did
not have much info to give, but this is what I learned:

It is largely a Canadian project, most of it being developed in
Toronto. It is not 2001 POTA, but Classic POTA. He mentioned that
there was an initial try to get the rights to 2001, but that when they
could not, the got the rights to Classic POTA. Tom said he is comitted
to doing at least one cover, and probably one story. Artist/writer Ty
Templeton is his contact and (from what I can gather) is the main
person leading the project. The publisher is a new company and doesn't
even have an official name yet. There is no definite schedule yet, but
its "in the works" as they say.

So, unless, this is in someway related to Platinum, we may be getting
yet another POTA comic soon (or at least in a year or so).

I told Tom that this was major news and that there certainly fans out
there for this stuff. He said, "Yeah, my brother is one of them.".
I've got his email and while I do not want to pester him, I plan to
email him in a month or so.

Neil, is there any chance of you hooking up with these guys and doing
work for them? Let me know and I'll send you his email privately.

Michael: I while back I tried to send you a followup email about the
Argentinian comics and more questions about BTB. I then realized that
for some reason the post never made it to the DG. I'll see if I've
got a backup and try resending, but basically, I do want copies of the
comics. If I don't have a copy I'll have to rewrite and it will take
me a few days (very busy here these days, can hardly keep up just
reading the posts.).

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Whitty <whitty@...>
Date: Sunday, June 5, 2005 10:14 am
Subject: [PotaDG] Within 39 and Going Home

> Thanks John.
>
> Going Home is finished now.
>
> It is with Platinum Comics who are very interested in it and they are
> even MORE interested in where the second and third parts will take
us.
>
> We're not rushing into anything but the future for POTA comics looks
> good.
>
> HOWEVER, Neil and I are working on a brand new "superhero" (for
> want of
> a better word) that is likely to provide us more fame and fortune
than
> the talking monkeys, so there will come a time for choices as well.
>
> Michael
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:

> The big thanks really go to Mark Rogers, who acquired the script and

put in a considerable amount of time scanning it.

>
> Greg
>

...and thanks to Mr. Rogers!

MT-B

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of sparkytb2005
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 10:00 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Good Seeds script

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
> The big thanks really go to Mark Rogers, who acquired the script and
put in a considerable amount of time scanning it.
> 
> Greg
>
...and thanks to Mr. Rogers!

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:

> Is it true what they say about Mark?
>

Would that be Rogers or T-B?

(I feel I'm setting myself up for trouble here...)

Oh well, just press [SEND]....

MT-B.

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of sparkytb2005
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 10:04 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Good Seeds script

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:
> Is it true what they say about Mark?
>

Would that be Rogers or T-B?

(I feel I'm setting myself up for trouble here...)

Oh well, just press [SEND]....

MT-B.

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:

> Just ask "What do they say about Mark"?
>
> Michael
>

++++ OK then :

"What do they say about Mark?"

MT-B

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.html.html In a message dated 6/6/05 11:21:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

When "War of the Worlds" opens at the end of the month, it will include the first trailer for Peter Jackson's "King Kong".

It'll just be a teaser, Jeffery.  They won't show Kong.

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of sparkytb2005
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 12:20 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Good Seeds script

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:
> Just ask "What do they say about Mark"?
> 
> Michael
>

++++ OK then :

"What do they say about Mark?"

MT-B

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 1:23 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: "King Kong" glimpse

In a message dated 6/6/05 11:21:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

When "War of the Worlds" opens at the end of the month, it will include the first trailer for Peter Jackson's "King Kong".

It'll just be a teaser, Jeffery.  They won't show Kong.

-- Rory

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 8:22 PM

Subject: [PotaDG] Re: "King Kong" glimpse

In a message dated 6/6/05 11:21:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

When "War of the Worlds" opens at the end of the month, it will include the first trailer for Peter Jackson's "King Kong".

It'll just be a teaser, Jeffery.  They won't show Kong.

-- Rory

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of veetus@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 2:02 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: "King Kong" glimpse

 

  You're the teaser! They said they'll show Kong, young man. And I hear he believes the only good human is a dead human (except Naomie Watts). - - - Jeff

----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 8:22 PM

Subject: [PotaDG] Re: "King Kong" glimpse

In a message dated 6/6/05 11:21:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

When "War of the Worlds" opens at the end of the month, it will include the first trailer for Peter Jackson's "King Kong".

It'll just be a teaser, Jeffery.  They won't show Kong.

-- Rory

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In a message dated 6/6/2005 10:54:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

I wonder if they will explore that sexual attraction Kong has with Dawn (or is it Dwan?  Or Anne?).

 

 

You're thinking of the 1976 Dino DeLorentes Kong.

They've gone back to the original 1933 characters.

So if Kong's hot for anyone she'll be called Ann Darrow. 

What's really strange though is that Carl Denham will be

played by Jack Black.

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of LordTZer0@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 2:21 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: "King Kong" glimpse

In a message dated 6/6/2005 10:54:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

I wonder if they will explore that sexual attraction Kong has with Dawn (or is it Dwan?  Or Anne?).

 

 

You're thinking of the 1976 Dino DeLorentes Kong.

They've gone back to the original 1933 characters.

So if Kong's hot for anyone she'll be called Ann Darrow. 

What's really strange though is that Carl Denham will be

played by Jack Black.

 

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:

> Mark Rogers!
>

++++ Har har... I wasted five minutes of my life for THAT punchline?

;)

MT-B.

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To all:

Someone please bid for this. Wonder what's on the rare VHS?

6401699983.

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It's a Comic Con exclusive, which is why they are making only 100 -
and probably why it's
a recycled character as well. If it was a brand-new character all of
us not going to the Con
would be very very upset! Although it does turn out that they have
put aside 10% for
those not lucky enough to be going, up for pre-order 6/8.

Here's the link for the full picture of the bloody Lawgiver:
http://www.sideshowtoy.com/
cgi-bin/category.cgi?category=comiccon05_ex

And it also explains how and when it's available through the links out to the side. I will
probably by it, just because I have all the other stuff - and that way I can choose if I want
him bloody or not - on the days I'm in a particularly black mood he'll be bloody! I can be a
warning signal to the kids not to bother me :)

Oh, and I thought this article was fun too - they interviewed Dan
Roebuck, who was Arzt in Lost for a couple of shows - the one who blew himself up with
nitro glycerin on accident in the season finale! Seems he loves Planet of the Apes stuff
(mentions it at the end of the interview)... http://www.sideshowtoy.com/cgi-bin/
category.cgi?category=060305lost

And just for grins, here's a link to the bit of the show where he
gets blown up! (sorry it's a bit OT, but I'm sure there are some Lost fans in this group!) -
http://www.evangeline-lilly.net/lost/season1/124.php - scroll down to second video clip
(it's Windows Media, BTW)

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:11 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Homepage

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> What's going on there Neil?!?!?!

 

-- Just me bringing some more 'forgotten / obscure / different' art from the comic books to the masses.

 

This current piece of art is from a Marvel subscriptions advert in #3 of the early magazines depicted by Alfredo Alcala (or as he signed it Ape-fredo!)

 

Even though it is not strictly POTA it is interesting as it predates the appearance of his work on the Beneath adaptation. Plus it just looks cool!

 

 

Neil

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Well I will be at the con and I will get my paws on the Bloody Lawgiver. In fact I will be there for the Preview night on Wednesday.

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In a message dated 6/7/2005 2:39:36 P.M. Central Standard Time, geekorama2005@... writes:

It's a Comic Con exclusive, which is why they are making only 100 -
and probably why it's
a recycled character as well.  If it was a brand-new character all of
us not going to the Con
would be very very upset! 

You should give them all a copy of Within the Planet of the Apes.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of LordTZer0@...
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 10:25 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] More info on Sideshow bloody Lawgiver...

In a message dated 6/7/2005 2:39:36 P.M. Central Standard Time, geekorama2005@... writes:

It's a Comic Con exclusive, which is why they are making only 100 -
and probably why it's
a recycled character as well.  If it was a brand-new character all of
us not going to the Con
would be very very upset! 

You should give them all a copy of Within the Planet of the Apes.

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:

> Marvel UK issue 34, featuring the conclusion of Kingdom on an Island

of the Apes is now available for download from Hunter's site. The
issue also features an article on the filming of Conquest.

> Next week, the long-awaited adaptation of Beneath the Planet of the

Apes begins.

-- Cool, thanks Greg.

Neil

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This is me being greedy, now, so... fair warning.

When you say that you do enough grabs that you could easily make the
sets twice as big... hmmm... is there any chance that those frame-
grab pics could be sent to a POTA DG "File" as complete JPEGs (and
not to the "Photo" section, where they end up getting shrunk down
to "Briefcase" size)...? Just the raw frame-grabs? There ain't enough
decent frame-grabs of BENEATH-through-BATTLE out there, in my
opinion. Kassidy has a great collection of frame-grabs from the 14 TV
episodes on her site, as does the "Goingfaster" site of the ANSA ship
scenes. As of yet, I don't yet have my new DVD burner installed (a
pal of mine is gonna get to it within the month, with any luck), and
I don't yet know how to do frame-grabs on my own, otherwise I'd be
doing them myself!

I'm talking, of course, of the complete WIDESCREEN images, and not
any PAN-&-SCAN truncated pics. As much as I dig seeing the faux TOPPS
sets you dudes have done, with the little captions added on top of
the images, I'd also love to see the complete pics. If you've
got 'em, is there any chance of you posting 'em either here as JPEG
files in the "Files" section? If you'd like, feel free to post 'em in
the "Files" section of my POTA PHENOMENON site, too, or instead, if
there's not as much room left here in DG-land. I'd be happier than an
uncle's monkey to host 'em at my site.

Patrick

I wonder if that 10-digit number is an ISBN number...? I'll have to
check out AMAZON.COM and see.

To answer Rory's wiseacre remarks below:

No, Dehn didn't just "goof" again.
No, "Roswell aliens" didn't give Taylor his own dog-tags.
No, they didn't drop from his Mothership.

In my scenario, Taylor had 'em either draped around his neck (under
his uniform, hence UNSEEN) throughout the opening scenes of "PLANET",
or he had 'em in a pocket of his flight jacket, or maybe in a pocket
of his trousers.

When he found the Waterfall and the swimming hole, he and his fellow
astronauts got BUCK NEKKID and went swimming... and the mute savage
humans got ahold of their clothing and gear and tossed it all willy-
nilly.

Taylor, Dodge, and Landon got SOME of it back -- enough to dress up
in some remnants (including the "water-collector" tarp-like thing
that Dodge wears when he's shot). Zira refers to these as "strange
clothes" when she first sees him, as Dr. Galen does the blood
transfusion.

Taylor LOSES his dog-tags when the humans run off with his stuff.

After the end of "PLANET", Taylor and Nova ride off NORTHWARD along
the coast, finding the Statue of Liberty. They only have enough food
and water to last them (and their horse?) for a single week.

MORE than a week transpires between the last time Cornelius and Zira
saw him and the first time they see Brent. During that interim, Ursus
has seemingly declared Martial Law and taken on Emergency Powers due
to the "incident" regarding the 12 scouts -- the 11 who disappeared
and the 12th who had had his mind "shattered, no doubt, by some
unsimian torture".

During that interim, not only have the charges against Zira and
Cornelius been dropped (in exchange for their silence regarding their
proof from the Cave, etc), but they've also gotten MARRIED.

Taylor and Nova only had so much food and water to last them. What
would they have done when the food and water ran OUT? Zaius
speculated that there MIGHT be another jungle beyond the Forbidden
Zone... but he didn't KNOW such a jungle existed. Taylor indicated
that he would TRY for that, following the shoreline and his nose.

But, at some point, he must have found that the Zone continued on...
and on... an on... TOO FAR for any hope of finding any hypothetical
jungle beyond it. So, rather than die of starvation and thirst, they
make their way back to a place where they KNOW water can be found:

The Waterfall area.

The Waterfall and Swimming Hole area is right on the border of the
Forbidden Zone -- the "scarecrows" are there probably NOT to keep
humans AWAY from the croplands, but to keep APES away from the
Forbidden Zone. They're on the border overlooking the DESERT, after
all. Zaius said before that the humans migrated from "the forest"
where they had eaten up their own food supplies -- they didn't
migrate from the DESERT beyond the cornfields.

The gorillas hunted the humans in the cornfield -- they didn't
(apparently) hunt 'em down in that Waterfall area. Perhaps some of
Nova's tribesmen fled THAT way and escaped the Hunt Club. After all,
before Taylor and his men found the "scarecrows" they were shadowed
by humans scampering along the craggy cliffs above them during the
last leg of their trek across the desert. The gorillas probably
wouldn't have followed any fleeing humans going in that direction,
once they made it past the "scarecrows".

So... Taylor and Nova make their way back to the Waterfall, at some
point BEFORE they find their way to that small oasis where he gives
her his dog-tags. Not only they need water and food -- their HORSE
also needs it. There's some amount of risk, of course, going back to
that general area... but by that point it's either death by gorilla's
gunshot or death by starvation and thirst.

He must have found those dog-tags somewhere strewn along the thickets
of bushes surrounding that swimming hole, where it perhaps fell from
a torn pocket of his ANSA uniform. Maybe it was just pure luck or
chance... but there it was.

Would he have just LEFT it there? It has his NAME on it. He thought
enough of his name to protest when -- during the Hearing -- Zaius
kept referring to him as "Bright Eyes": "My name is Taylor--!" he
says, before the President of the Assembly has the bailiff shut him
up.

The first thing he writes (on paper) to Zira, after he steals her
little notepad, is the same thing: "MY NAME IS TAYLOR".

His name means so much to him, then -- it's his IDENTITY, what Landon
had had removed by Zaius' butchers in the veterinarian lab -- that
he, if he had found those dog-tags again, would KEEP them.

The ONLY reason he lost them in the first place is because he got
totally naked when they found the Waterfall. He wanted to wash off
2,000 years of sweat -- especially the more-than-three-days worth of
grime they got after they beached the Raft on the shore of Dead Lake,
when they started marching across the Wasteland.

He didn't know that there were curious and disruptive humans lurking
around, otherwise he might've kept those dog-tags on when he went
swimming.

He didn't need to keep 'em up his butt!

Patrick

P.S. I don't think it's as likely that he would've left those dog-
tags with the "empty rubber liferaft" at Dead Lake, next to the
little flag that Landon planted. We don't see him remove any dog-tags
in that scene, though he does undo his collar. Perhaps the tags are
around his neck, underneath the tank-top shirt he wears under the
jacket. Or, they're in a pocket, or in his backpack, maybe. But I
don't see him just leaving them in/on/near the Raft. They ain't that
heavy, and if he has room enough in a pocket for his contraband cigar
(and lighter?), then he has room enough for the small tag and its
chain.

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I agree with this scenario Patrick...

and Taylor was calling her Nova in the cell......

"Nooo-va....Noooo-va.....Yeah, me Tarzan, you Jane"

Tim

--- patrickmichaeltilton
<patrickmichaeltilton@...> wrote:

> So... Taylor and Nova make their way back to the
> Waterfall, at some
> point BEFORE they find their way to that small oasis
> where he gives
> her his dog-tags. Not only they need water and food
> -- their HORSE
> also needs it. There's some amount of risk, of
> course, going back to
> that general area... but by that point it's either
> death by gorilla's
> gunshot or death by starvation and thirst.
>
> He must have found those dog-tags somewhere strewn
> along the thickets
> of bushes surrounding that swimming hole, where it
> perhaps fell from
> a torn pocket of his ANSA uniform. Maybe it was just
> pure luck or
> chance... but there it was.

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In a message dated 6/9/2005 2:19:22 P.M. Central Standard Time, patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:

Ursus has seemingly declared Martial Law

 

I declare Martian Law!

 

Sir Phobos!  Sir Deimos!

Administer swift justice!

 

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Uh oh!

 

It's that time again - the "other" group is nearly up to us in their posts!  :-0

 

Time to get people requesting the next chapter of WITHIN.

 

Who is first?

Michael

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In a message dated 6/9/2005 4:43:56 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Who is first?

Me me me  . . .

 

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 8:16 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Sideshow Nova dog tags

I agree with this scenario Patrick...

and Taylor was calling her Nova in the cell......

"Nooo-va....Noooo-va.....Yeah, me Tarzan,  you Jane"

Tim

--- patrickmichaeltilton
<patrickmichaeltilton@...> wrote:


> So... Taylor and Nova make their way back to the
> Waterfall, at some
> point BEFORE they find their way to that small oasis
> where he gives
> her his dog-tags. Not only they need water and food
> -- their HORSE
> also needs it. There's some amount of risk, of
> course, going back to
> that general area... but by that point it's either
> death by gorilla's
> gunshot or death by starvation and thirst.
>
> He must have found those dog-tags somewhere strewn
> along the thickets
> of bushes surrounding that swimming hole, where it
> perhaps fell from
> a torn pocket of his ANSA uniform. Maybe it was just
> pure luck or
> chance... but there it was.


Do You

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of PhoenixCa7@...
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:14 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] New Within

Me! Me! Me! I would love to get this!

 

Thanks!

 

Jim

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.html.html In a message dated 6/9/05 8:26:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Very good Patrick.

Rory, isn't it about time you disagree?

Come on, the amount of posts this month is looking very unhealthy.  Get flaming Rory!

Michael


Patrick is whacked.  He's one of these POTA knuckleheads that thinks everything is right next to everything else, like James and his ideas about Cornelius' map.  When did Taylor and Nova have the time to go back to the waterfall at the rock pool, not taking into account that it's in the opposite direction from where they were heading at the end of PLANET, and hundreds of miles away?  It's stupid to think such a thing.  Why can't Patrick just admit the facts?  Dehn goofed, and he goofed often.

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.html.html In a message dated 6/9/05 8:34:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Just sent to Chris, Jim and T.

Now....COMMENT LIKE APES!!!!

Michael

I don't like this title, "Within the Planet of the Apes," just like I don't like the title of the POTA documentary, "Behind the Planet of the Apes."  What's next?  "Journey Up the Ass of the Planet of the Apes"?

What's with all these butt references?  You guys got an ass fixation or something?

-- Rory<.html <.html

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:39 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Within

In a message dated 6/9/05 8:34:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Just sent to Chris, Jim and T.

Now....COMMENT LIKE APES!!!!

Michael

I don't like this title, "Within the Planet of the Apes," just like I don't like the title of the POTA documentary, "Behind the Planet of the Apes."  What's next?  "Journey Up the Ass of the Planet of the Apes"?

What's with all these butt references?  You guys got an ass fixation or something?

-- Rory

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:36 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Sideshow Nova dog tags

In a message dated 6/9/05 8:26:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Very good Patrick.

Rory, isn't it about time you disagree?

Come on, the amount of posts this month is looking very unhealthy.  Get flaming Rory!

Michael

Patrick is whacked.  He's one of these POTA knuckleheads that thinks everything is right next to everything else, like James and his ideas about Cornelius' map.  When did Taylor and Nova have the time to go back to the waterfall at the rock pool, not taking into account that it's in the opposite direction from where they were heading at the end of PLANET, and hundreds of miles away?  It's stupid to think such a thing.  Why can't Patrick just admit the facts?  Dehn goofed, and he goofed often.

-- Rory

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You're the one with the butt fixation!  Within is alligned with a womb....not an anus!  ;)

Michael


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.html.html In a message dated 6/9/05 8:55:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

I don't think Patrick disputes that Dehn is a goof - and that he goofed - but as far as it goes I like this explanation better than the one where Taylor's anus swallows them!  :)

Michael

Dude, there's no way they're going to ride the horse all the way back to the waterfall, then proceed to NYC.  Are you all crazy?<.html <.html

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Can I see  the next exciting chapter of Within

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Uh oh!

 

It's that time again - the "other" group is nearly up to us in their posts!  :-0

 

Time to get people requesting the next chapter of WITHIN.

 

Who is first?

Michael

I sure would like to see the next exciting chapter of "Inserted in the
Planet of the Apes." ;)



-- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:

> I'd like to see it.
>
> Greg
>
> "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> Uh oh!
>
> It's that time again - the "other" group is nearly up to us in their

posts! :-0

>
> Time to get people requesting the next chapter of WITHIN.
>
> Who is first?
>
> Michael

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:55 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Within

In a message dated 6/9/05 8:49:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

You're the one with the butt fixation!  Within is alligned with a womb....not an anus!  ;)

Michael

What's with the womb fixation?

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:57 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Sideshow Nova dog tags

In a message dated 6/9/05 8:55:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

I don't think Patrick disputes that Dehn is a goof - and that he goofed - but as far as it goes I like this explanation better than the one where Taylor's anus swallows them!  :)

Michael

Dude, there's no way they're going to ride the horse all the way back to the waterfall, then proceed to NYC.  Are you all crazy?

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of John
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:06 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New Within

I sure would like to see the next exciting chapter of "Inserted in the
Planet of the Apes." ;)



-- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
> I'd like to see it.
> 
> Greg
>
> "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> Uh oh!
> 
> It's that time again - the "other" group is nearly up to us in their
posts!  :-0
> 
> Time to get people requesting the next chapter of WITHIN.
> 
> Who is first?
>
> Michael

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Please please me!!! Someone vote for me to receive the strip next
please!!!
John

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 5:57 PM

Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Sideshow Nova dog tags

In a message dated 6/9/05 8:55:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

I don't think Patrick disputes that Dehn is a goof - and that he goofed - but as far as it goes I like this explanation better than the one where Taylor's anus swallows them!  :)

Michael

Dude, there's no way they're going to ride the horse all the way back to the waterfall, then proceed to NYC.  Are you all crazy?

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Did any one in the group get the Bloody Lawgiver released by Sideshow?
I tried but when I clicked on the link they were already Sold Out. I
think Sideshow really kicked the fans who wanted one in the teeth this
time
John

Thank you my friend. I don't care if you are obsessed with butts,
your O.K. in my book. Now these mutants with the spaceships that look
just like the ones from Beneath, can we call them the same mutants or
like "Dr. Milo" are we supposed to have questions about them, or does
Neil only have so many different pictures to trace from? :) Just
kidding. Great as always guys. I hope you don't forget us when you
are poor but highly respected comic gurus. You can always hope for
rich and famous but I'm a realist.





--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> DONE
>
> Now where's all the comments?!?!?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On

Behalf Of

> John
> Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:06 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New Within
>
>
> I sure would like to see the next exciting chapter of "Inserted in

the

> Planet of the Apes." ;)
>
>
>
> -- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
> > I'd like to see it.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> > "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> > Uh oh!
> >
> > It's that time again - the "other" group is nearly up to us in

their

> posts! :-0
> >
> > Time to get people requesting the next chapter of WITHIN.
> >
> > Who is first?
> >
> > Michael
>
>

DONE

 

Now where's all the comments?!?!?

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of John
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:06 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New Within

I sure would like to see the next exciting chapter of "Inserted in the
Planet of the Apes." ;)



-- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
> I'd like to see it.
> 
> Greg
>
> "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> Uh oh!
> 
> It's that time again - the "other" group is nearly up to us in their
posts!  :-0
> 
> Time to get people requesting the next chapter of WITHIN.
> 
> Who is first?
>
> Michael

Can I see the strip?

Michael and Neil are the comic strip soup Nazis. "NO STRIP FOR YOU!!!"




-- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "luke_the_drifter52" <JLKINSER1970@h...>
wrote:

> Can I see the strip?

I have faith in Michael. I am sure once he sees my post he will send
me the strip

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@a...> wrote:
> Michael and Neil are the comic strip soup Nazis. "NO STRIP FOR
YOU!!!"
>
>
>
>
> -- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "luke_the_drifter52"
<JLKINSER1970@h...>
> wrote:
> > Can I see the strip?

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I see here that 250 million years ago the state of New York was a chain of volcanic islands with the ocean on one side and an inland sea on the other.  Sound familiar?

 

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Just sent to Chris, Jim and T.

 

Now....COMMENT LIKE APES!!!!

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of PhoenixCa7@...
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:14 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] New Within

Me! Me! Me! I would love to get this!

 

Thanks!

 

Jim

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Melinda G Kettler
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 2:33 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New Within

May I see the next chapter??

 

Melinda

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of taebokitti@...
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:58 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] New Within

Can I have the next chapter before I leave for vacation on Monday? Elaine

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of John
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:29 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New Within

Thank you my friend. I don't care if you are obsessed with butts,
your O.K. in my book.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of John
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:29 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New Within

Now these mutants with the spaceships that look
just like the ones from Beneath, can we call them the same mutants or
like "Dr. Milo" are we supposed to have questions about them, or does
Neil only have so many different pictures to trace from? :)

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of John
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:29 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New Within

Just
kidding. Great as always guys. I hope you don't forget us when you
are poor but highly respected comic gurus. You can always hope for
rich and famous but I'm a realist.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Greg Plonowski
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:33 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: New Within

Very cool. The detail Neil puts into these strips is just uncanny. Fantastic likenesses of the mutants, too.

 

Now where's Marcus during all this? Is he one of the gorillas who broke into the museum? I hope he doesn't fall prey to the mutants and their dastardly ways. That would be tragic.

 

Save Marcus!

 

Greg.

"Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...> wrote:

DONE

 

Now where's all the comments?!?!?

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of John
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:06 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New Within

I sure would like to see the next exciting chapter of "Inserted in the
Planet of the Apes." ;)



-- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
> I'd like to see it.
> 
> Greg
>
> "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> Uh oh!
> 
> It's that time again - the "other" group is nearly up to us in their
posts!  :-0
> 
> Time to get people requesting the next chapter of WITHIN.
> 
> Who is first?
>
> Michael

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of HollowedOut
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 3:03 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] New Within

Frickin SAAAAAAWWWEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!

 

My wife actually walked in when I opened the file and she said as walking by"...wow that's nice!" To note she has said this to only three artists to this date that I can remember, those are Frazetta, Ross and Clamp (she has three personal Clamp prints... so that shouldn't count!!)

 

I'm loving this strip!

 

-Chris

"Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...> wrote:

Just sent to Chris, Jim and T.

 

Now....COMMENT LIKE APES!!!!

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of PhoenixCa7@...
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 10:14 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] New Within

Me! Me! Me! I would love to get this!

 

Thanks!

 

Jim

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In a message dated 6/9/2005 7:32:04 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

You wanted it....YOU GOT IT!  :)

 

What's this?  Mutants!?

And working on a spacecraft like the Icarus?

Very intriguing!  And the artwork is first rate!

As usual.

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In a message dated 6/10/2005 12:04:41 A.M. Central Standard Time, at_deaths_door@... writes:

Clamp (she has three personal Clamp prints... so that shouldn't count!!)

Clamp the anime/manga group?

 

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I think Taylor wore his dogtags around his Johnson.

Maybe that's why he was so testy.  I had to beat

everyone else to that punchline.

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Whitty, Michael

To: 'PotaDG@yahoogroups.com'

Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:11 PM

Subject: [PotaDG] FW: Planet of the Apes - Within p 10. ***Spoilers***

Thanks T

 

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:09 PM
To: Michael.Whitty@...
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes - Within p 10. ***Spoilers***

In a message dated 6/9/2005 7:32:04 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

You wanted it....YOU GOT IT!  :)

 

What's this?  Mutants!?

And working on a spacecraft like the Icarus?

Very intriguing!  And the artwork is first rate!

As usual.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of veetus@...
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:40 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] FW: Planet of the Apes - Within p 10. ***Spoilers***

 

  What's this? A Whitty/T lovefest? The miracles of the modern age never cease. Why can't apes and humans get along? - - - Jeff

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Whitty, Michael

To: 'PotaDG@yahoogroups.com'

Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 11:11 PM

Subject: [PotaDG] FW: Planet of the Apes - Within p 10. ***Spoilers***

Thanks T

 

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: LordTZer0@... [LordTZer0@...]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 4:09 PM
To: Michael.Whitty@...
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes - Within p 10. ***Spoilers***

In a message dated 6/9/2005 7:32:04 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

You wanted it....YOU GOT IT!  :)

 

What's this?  Mutants!?

And working on a spacecraft like the Icarus?

Very intriguing!  And the artwork is first rate!

As usual.

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In a message dated 6/10/2005 1:26:32 A.M. Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

  What's this? A Whitty/T lovefest? The miracles of the modern age never cease. Why can't apes and humans get along? - - - Jeff

 

Just being civil.

 

"Treat me good, I'll treat you better.  Treat me bad, I'll treat you worse."

                                ~~~ Reno or The Hong Kong Cavaliers ~~~~

 

 

 

 

 

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I spose Marcus is going to survive and become Chief of Security, but then this might be a timeline created by Zira and Corn and Milo so he could be murdered by mutants....hmmmm.......

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Greg Plonowski
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 1:33 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: New Within

Very cool. The detail Neil puts into these strips is just uncanny. Fantastic likenesses of the mutants, too.

 

Now where's Marcus during all this? Is he one of the gorillas who broke into the museum? I hope he doesn't fall prey to the mutants and their dastardly ways. That would be tragic.

 

Save Marcus!

 

Greg.

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I wouldn't go so far as to say it was a goof as much as taking a bit
if creative liberty. I wasn't Dehn's fault that there wasn't anything
that allowed Nova to somehow demonstrate to Brent that she knew
taylor. While POTA was being written there was no inclination to set
up a sequel, so Dehn inherited the problem. Sure, he COULD have
written some goofy scene where Chuck perhaps carves his name on a
piece of wood and give it to Nova prior to disappearing or something
like that. But it certainly would have looked and felt like the
contrived scene it would be. No, I prefer he take a relatively small
liberty to move the story forwards.

I do think that overanalizing it (pun intended) and trying to conjure
up some unlikely and improbable logic to it is not worthy of the
slight inconsistency. That's the problem I have with "Mothership"
theories and the like. So much obvious distortion is applied to an
otherwise great basic plot, that if it were to be accepted, the impact
of the original story is lessened.

That's where comics like BTB and Within come in. The CAN lay a new
foundation to an existing storyline, and embelish it all they want and
if they do not break any of the already established premises, that's
just great. It's not really canon, but no less enjoyable when well
done.

My 2 cents.

----- Original Message -----
From: Haristas@...
Date: Thursday, June 9, 2005 8:35 pm
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Sideshow Nova dog tags

> In a message dated 6/9/05 8:26:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> Michael.Whitty@... writes:
>
>
> > Very good Patrick.
> >
> > Rory, isn't it about time you disagree?
> >
> > Come on, the amount of posts this month is looking very
> unhealthy. Get
> > flaming Rory!
> >
> > Michael
> >
>
> Patrick is whacked. He's one of these POTA knuckleheads that
> thinks
> everything is right next to everything else, like James and his
> ideas about Cornelius'
> map. When did Taylor and Nova have the time to go back to the
> waterfall at
> the rock pool, not taking into account that it's in the opposite
> direction from
> where they were heading at the end of PLANET, and hundreds of
> miles away?
> It's stupid to think such a thing. Why can't Patrick just admit
> the facts?
> Dehn goofed, and he goofed often.
>
> -- Rory
>