Sweet is right. Neil's rendition of the Mutants to their 'real' movie
counterparts is downright uncanny! I wonder if we'll see "Fatman"
Victor Buono, before the end. I've always wished that he had more of a
roll in Beneath than he did. I must admit that there was a point early
on where I did not think much of his acting abilities (mostly because
of the corny King-Tut Batman villain role), but the more I see him in
old supporting roles in movies and TV, the more I got to respect him.

Much the same can be said for the rest of the Mutant council. Their
scenes should have been expanded by a few minutes to flesh out their
characters. And, lets face it, if there ever were any characters that
needed fleshing out, those mutants would fit the bill! :)

Dario

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Subject: RE: [PotaDG] New Within

> Frickin SAAAAAAWWWEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!
>
> My wife actually walked in when I opened the file and she said as
> walking by"...wow that's nice!" To note she has said this to only
> three artists to this date that I can remember, those are
> Frazetta, Ross and Clamp (she has three personal Clamp prints...
> so that shouldn't count!!)
>
> I'm loving this strip!
>
> -Chris
>
> "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...> wrote:
> Just sent to Chris, Jim and T.
>
> Now....COMMENT LIKE APES!!!!
>
> Michael
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In a message dated 6/10/2005 3:24:19 A.M. Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

Fighting is boring.  What a waste of energy.

Too true.

Lets NOT try juicing the boards numbers

by starting any flame wars.  That may be

fun for a while, but it gets old in a hurry!

How many women have thought, "I'll

spice up my marriage by starting an

argument over nothing, and wound up divorced!

Stick that in your Lovefest and smoke it!

 

 

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In a message dated 6/10/2005 7:15:59 A.M. Central Standard Time, urko3085@... writes:

Do mutant children even go on field trips, I wonder? If your teacher can just project images from any location anywhere against the wall and create realistic illusions, do you still really need to leave the classroom?

Why not?  They can project places on the wall now, and they still go.

Though I guess the illusion are 3-D and interactive.  Must be very well

behaved kids.  No talking in class.  Though I wonder if the teacher can

intercept mental notes telepathically?

 

 

 

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.html.html Saw this DVD news item today.  Something sure to excite Jeff, but just has me wondering "What about the APES sequels?"  I have the feeling Fox is going to wait until the 40th Anniversary in 2008 before we get anything new.

-- Rory

Fox will very soon announce a pair of long-awaited DVD releases - The Fly: Special Edition (1986) and The Fly II: Special Edition (1989) - each a 2-disc set expected to street on 9/27 (SRP $25.98 each).

The Fly: Special Edition will feature the film in 1.85:1 anamorphic widescreen video with both Dolby Digital and DTS 5.1 audio. Extras will include audio commentary by director David Cronenberg, the Fear of the Flesh: The Making of The Fly documentary (broken into Fear of the Flesh: Larva , Fear of the Flesh: Pupa and Fear of the Flesh: Metamorphosis featurettes), 4 deleted/alternate scenes (Second Interview, Monkey-Cat, Brundlefly vs. Bag Lady and Butterfly Baby/Alternate ending), test footage videos (Main Title Elements, Telepod Tests, Make-Up Tests, The Exploding Head and Cronenfly), 15 featurette clips available via an optional branching mode while watching the film (including A Radical Departure , The Rise of Marketing, Who Wants to Die? , All You Have to Do is Be Passionate, Cronenberg's Preparation , On Cronenberg's Films, Cronenberg as Gynecologist , Cronenberg as Director, On the Cannes Jury , The Mother of Invention, It Takes Time to Spread the Goop , Glass-Break Test, Scotch & Razor Blades , Genes in the Ether, Winning the Oscar , The Last Collaboration, Haunted by the Fly and The Brundle Museum of Natural History ), a number of interactive written texts (including George Langelaan's original short story, Charles Edward Pogue's original screenplay, David Cronenberg's rewrite, the Cinefex article The Fly Papers and the American Cinematographer articles New Buzz on an Old Theme and More About The Fly ), a gallery of poster and lobby cart art, a gallery of production photos and concept art, 9 trailers and TV spots, the David Cronenberg Profile featurette, 2 Easter eggs ( Halloweener and Vomit Drop ) and a look at genre films from the Summer of 1986 (including Big Trouble in Little China and Aliens , as well as The Fly).

The Fly II: Special Edition will also feature the film in 1.85:1 anamorphic widescreen video with both Dolby Digital and DTS 5.1 audio, along with audio commentary by director Chris Walas and film historian/archivist Bob Burns, a deleted scene (Stopping for Food) and an alternate ending (Houseboat Scene), 2 documentaries (including The Fly Papers: The Buzz on Hollywood's Scariest Insect and Transformations: Looking Back at The Fly II), the CWI Video Production Journal featurette, the Composer's Master Class: Christopher Young featurette, the original theatrical EPK featurette, storyboard-to-film comparisons of 3 scenes (with optional commentary by director Chris Walas), a production photo gallery, The Art of The Fly II gallery, a storyboard gallery, 2 trailers for The Fly II and trailers for The Fly (1989), The Fly (1958), Return of the Fly (1958), Alien and The Omen .



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Read the newest comic today. Fellas, your art work and story are top
rate work! It is like actually looking at some deleted secens from the
films! I commend you once again but keep them coming!!!
John

I would like to see the next chapter please Michael!

Tim

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----- Original Message -----

From: Haristas@...

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 5:14 PM

Subject: [PotaDG] Veetus, check your fly!

Saw this DVD news item today.  Something sure to excite Jeff, but just has me wondering "What about the APES sequels?"  I have the feeling Fox is going to wait until the 40th Anniversary in 2008 before we get anything new.

-- Rory

Fox will very soon announce a pair of long-awaited DVD releases - The Fly: Special Edition (1986) and The Fly II: Special Edition (1989) - each a 2-disc set expected to street on 9/27 (SRP $25.98 each).

The Fly: Special Edition will feature the film in 1.85:1 anamorphic widescreen video with both Dolby Digital and DTS 5.1 audio. Extras will include audio commentary by director David Cronenberg, the Fear of the Flesh: The Making of The Fly documentary (broken into Fear of the Flesh: Larva, Fear of the Flesh: Pupa and Fear of the Flesh: Metamorphosis featurettes), 4 deleted/alternate scenes (Second Interview, Monkey-Cat, Brundlefly vs. Bag Lady and Butterfly Baby/Alternate ending), test footage videos (Main Title Elements, Telepod Tests, Make-Up Tests, The Exploding Head and Cronenfly), 15 featurette clips available via an optional branching mode while watching the film (including A Radical Departure, The Rise of Marketing, Who Wants to Die?, All You Have to Do is Be Passionate, Cronenberg's Preparation, On Cronenberg's Films, Cronenberg as Gynecologist, Cronenberg as Director, On the Cannes Jury, The Mother of Invention, It Takes Time to Spread the Goop, Glass-Break Test , Scotch & Razor Blades, Genes in the Ether, Winning the Oscar, The Last Collaboration, Haunted by the Fly and The Brundle Museum of Natural History), a number of interactive written texts (including George Langelaan's original short story, Charles Edward Pogue's original screenplay, David Cronenberg's rewrite, the Cinefex article The Fly Papers and the American Cinematographer articles New Buzz on an Old Theme and More About The Fly), a gallery of poster and lobby cart art, a gallery of production photos and concept art, 9 trailers and TV spots, the David Cronenberg Profile featurette, 2 Easter eggs (Halloweener and Vomit Drop ) and a look at genre films from the Summer of 1986 (including Big Trouble in Little China and Aliens , as well as The Fly).

The Fly II: Special Edition will also feature the film in 1.85:1 anamorphic widescreen video with both Dolby Digital and DTS 5.1 audio, along with audio commentary by director Chris Walas and film historian/archivist Bob Burns, a deleted scene (Stopping for Food) and an alternate ending (Houseboat Scene), 2 documentaries (including The Fly Papers: The Buzz on Hollywood's Scariest Insect and Transformations: Looking Back at The Fly II), the CWI Video Production Journal featurette, the Composer's Master Class: Christopher Young featurette, the original theatrical EPK featurette, storyboard-to-film comparisons of 3 scenes (with optional commentary by director Chris Walas), a production photo gallery, The Art of The Fly II gallery, a storyboard gallery, 2 trailers for The Fly II and trailers for The Fly (1989), The Fly (1958), Return of the Fly (1958), Alien and The Omen.

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To all --

At the request of Kass, and also of my own volition, I'm gonna send a
bag of goodies to Ballard this week to scan and post for all you chaps
to enjoy.

Seeing as you are all the biggest experts in the world, you may have
seen alot of this, but hopefully there will be some new stuff to
entertain one and all... ;)

Love from London,

Mark T-B.

This is what is coming:

1. Original 8x10s from POTA 68 and the tv show (obscure pics!!)
2. Mint copy of 1970 BENEATH Gold Key Comic Adaptation
(I may be wrong, but I don't think even Hunter has scanned this..)
3. Production contact sheet from POTA 1968 -- includes Heston being
sprayed and McDowall/Hunter doing publicity shoot.
4. Beautiful colour portrait of McDowall as Caesar.
5. Japanese CONQUEST movie flyer.
6. Production contact sheet tv series - Mark Lenard as Urko.

If you want to see them, I also have the 1974 UK tv show poster
magazine (I'm sure Kass has posted this?), Pressbooks from all the
movies and alot of foreign cinema posters for the five feature films.
I have some obscure Spanish posters and large format French posters
from the feature films -- the U.S one sheets and the British Quads.

Unfortunately my British quad poster from POTA68 was "tainted" when a
director friend of mine got Heston to sign it for me.

If you want to see any of these extras -- let me know. I'm bowing
down before the great Mr. Ballard right now as I don't own a scanner!

Luv from Sunny London,

Mark T-B.

This is what is coming:

1. Original 8x10s from POTA 68 and the tv show (obscure pics!!)
2. Mint copy of 1970 BENEATH Gold Key Comic Adaptation
(I may be wrong, but I don't think even Hunter has scanned this..)
3. Production contact sheet from POTA 1968 -- includes Heston being
sprayed and McDowall/Hunter doing publicity shoot.
4. Beautiful colour portrait of McDowall as Caesar.
5. Japanese CONQUEST movie flyer.
6. Production contact sheet tv series - Mark Lenard as Urko.

If you want to see them, I also have the 1974 UK tv show poster
magazine (I'm sure Kass has posted this?), Pressbooks from all the
movies and alot of foreign cinema posters for the five feature films.
I have some obscure Spanish posters and large format French posters
from the feature films -- the U.S one sheets and the British Quads.

Unfortunately my British quad poster from POTA68 was "tainted" when a
director friend of mine got Heston to sign it for me.

If you want to see any of these extras -- let me know. I'm bowing
down before the great Mr. Ballard right now as I don't own a scanner!

Luv from Sunny London,

Mark T-B.





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That all sounds great Mark! Looking forward to them!
Especially the posters....maybe they can be added to
the Foreign Film Poster folder in the Photos section??

Tim

--- sparkytb2005 <sparkytb@...> wrote:

alot of foreign cinema posters for the

> five feature films.
> I have some obscure Spanish posters and large format
> French posters
> from the feature films -- the U.S one sheets and the
> British Quads.

__________________________________

All right......which one of you Aussies is selling
GREAT stuff on ebay as Merkid63????? and why?

Tim



__________________________________

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:

> This is some strange museum the mutants are running. They let people

just crawl all over the spaceships. Hey! Those things are 2,000 years
old. Watch it with the fingerprints, will ya!
Try going to the Air and Space Museum and see if they let you crawl
all over the exhibits there.

-- Thing is, it was a museum and they call it 'the museum' but they
don't go there to show the kiddies around. The mutants are working on
the spaceships, trying to figure them out / repair them.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:

> Ah crap it's at WORK!

Maybe if you are nice to Neil he will send you the latest strip (or the
entire page as it is the last one on the page..).

-- On its way!

Neil

This all sounds great. My Wife never dreamed that my computer was
going to house almost as much Planet of the Apes stuff as
our "Playroom". I look foward to seeing these.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "sparkytb2005" <sparkytb@h...> wrote:
> This is what is coming:
>
> 1. Original 8x10s from POTA 68 and the tv show (obscure pics!!)
> 2. Mint copy of 1970 BENEATH Gold Key Comic Adaptation
> (I may be wrong, but I don't think even Hunter has scanned
this..)
> 3. Production contact sheet from POTA 1968 -- includes Heston being
> sprayed and McDowall/Hunter doing publicity shoot.
> 4. Beautiful colour portrait of McDowall as Caesar.
> 5. Japanese CONQUEST movie flyer.
> 6. Production contact sheet tv series - Mark Lenard as Urko.
>
> If you want to see them, I also have the 1974 UK tv show poster
> magazine (I'm sure Kass has posted this?), Pressbooks from all the
> movies and alot of foreign cinema posters for the five feature
films.
> I have some obscure Spanish posters and large format French posters
> from the feature films -- the U.S one sheets and the British Quads.
>
> Unfortunately my British quad poster from POTA68 was "tainted" when
a
> director friend of mine got Heston to sign it for me.
>
> If you want to see any of these extras -- let me know. I'm bowing
> down before the great Mr. Ballard right now as I don't own a
scanner!
>
> Luv from Sunny London,
>
> Mark T-B.

Thanks you guys! IT"S AWESOME!!!--- Neil
<nfoster@...> wrote:

> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty"
> <whitty@c...> wrote:
> > Ah crap it's at WORK!
> Maybe if you are nice to Neil he will send you the
> latest strip (or the
> entire page as it is the last one on the page..).
>
> -- On its way!
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>

__________________________________

What are those silly mutants up too? Very
intriguing....can't wait to see what's
next.......great likenessess of all characters....and
I can hear their voices while reading....KEEP IT UP
FELLAS!!!!

Tim


--- Neil <nfoster@...> wrote:

> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty"
> <whitty@c...> wrote:
> > Ah crap it's at WORK!
> Maybe if you are nice to Neil he will send you the
> latest strip (or the
> entire page as it is the last one on the page..).
>
> -- On its way!
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>

__________________________________

I would love to see them!!! Let us know when you post them!


In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "sparkytb2005" <sparkytb@h...> wrote:

> This is what is coming:
>
> 1. Original 8x10s from POTA 68 and the tv show (obscure pics!!)
> 2. Mint copy of 1970 BENEATH Gold Key Comic Adaptation
> (I may be wrong, but I don't think even Hunter has scanned

this..)

> 3. Production contact sheet from POTA 1968 -- includes Heston

being

> sprayed and McDowall/Hunter doing publicity shoot.
> 4. Beautiful colour portrait of McDowall as Caesar.
> 5. Japanese CONQUEST movie flyer.
> 6. Production contact sheet tv series - Mark Lenard as Urko.
>
> If you want to see them, I also have the 1974 UK tv show poster
> magazine (I'm sure Kass has posted this?), Pressbooks from all the
> movies and alot of foreign cinema posters for the five feature

films.

> I have some obscure Spanish posters and large format French

posters

> from the feature films -- the U.S one sheets and the British Quads.
>
> Unfortunately my British quad poster from POTA68 was "tainted"

when a

> director friend of mine got Heston to sign it for me.
>
> If you want to see any of these extras -- let me know. I'm bowing
> down before the great Mr. Ballard right now as I don't own a

scanner!

>
> Luv from Sunny London,
>
> Mark T-B.

Mark, I really look forward to seeing these items, especially the color
portrait of McDowall as Caesar and the obscure pics from POTA 68 and the tv
show. I'm a bit behind in reading the posts right now because I just moved
into a house, my body feels like it has been hit by a truck, and I have
stuff EVERYWHERE, and it's not organized yet. I don't have my computer
hooked up at home, so I'm having to access email from work. I am stressed,
and so these new goodies are something to look forward to!!!

Melinda :-)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "sparkytb2005" <sparkytb@h...> wrote:
>This is what is coming:
>
>1. Original 8x10s from POTA 68 and the tv show (obscure pics!!)
>2. Mint copy of 1970 BENEATH Gold Key Comic Adaptation
> (I may be wrong, but I don't think even Hunter has scanned
this..)
>3. Production contact sheet from POTA 1968 -- includes Heston being
> sprayed and McDowall/Hunter doing publicity shoot.
>4. Beautiful colour portrait of McDowall as Caesar.
>5. Japanese CONQUEST movie flyer.
>6. Production contact sheet tv series - Mark Lenard as Urko.
>
>If you want to see them, I also have the 1974 UK tv show poster magazine
>(I'm sure Kass has posted this?), Pressbooks from all the movies and alot
>of foreign cinema posters for the five feature
films.
>I have some obscure Spanish posters and large format French posters from
>the feature films -- the U.S one sheets and the British Quads.
>
>Unfortunately my British quad poster from POTA68 was "tainted" when
a
>director friend of mine got Heston to sign it for me.
>
>If you want to see any of these extras -- let me know. I'm bowing down
>before the great Mr. Ballard right now as I don't own a
scanner!
>
>Luv from Sunny London,
>
>Mark T-B.

.html.html Anyone here want to see a nice picture of "Pirates Cove" Point Dume, CA?  Click on this link:

Click here: Point Dume SB

http://www.parks.ca.gov/default.asp?page_id=623

If I ever visit the LA area, this is someplace I want to go, though it does definately rob the end of PLANET of its "mystique."

-- Rory<.html<.html

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 8:18 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com; pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Check out Point Dume SB

Anyone here want to see a nice picture of "Pirates Cove" Point Dume, CA?  Click on this link:

Click here: Point Dume SB

http://www.parks.ca.gov/default.asp?page_id=623

If I ever visit the LA area, this is someplace I want to go, though it does definately rob the end of PLANET of its "mystique."

-- Rory

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Melinda G Kettler
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:54 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] RE: Goodies To Scan II

Mark, I really look forward to seeing these items, especially the color
portrait of McDowall as Caesar and the obscure pics from POTA 68 and the tv
show.  I'm a bit behind in reading the posts right now because I just moved
into a house, my body feels like it has been hit by a truck, and I have
stuff EVERYWHERE, and it's not organized yet.  I don't have my computer
hooked up at home, so I'm having to access email from work.  I am stressed,
and so these new goodies are something to look forward to!!!

Melinda :-)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "sparkytb2005" <sparkytb@h...> wrote:
>This is what is coming:
>
>1.  Original 8x10s from POTA 68 and the tv show (obscure pics!!)
>2.  Mint copy of 1970 BENEATH Gold Key Comic Adaptation
>     (I may be wrong, but I don't think even Hunter has scanned
this..)
>3.  Production contact sheet from POTA 1968 -- includes Heston being
>     sprayed and McDowall/Hunter doing publicity shoot.
>4.  Beautiful colour portrait of McDowall as Caesar.
>5.  Japanese CONQUEST movie flyer.
>6.  Production contact sheet tv series - Mark Lenard as Urko.
>
>If you want to see them, I also have the 1974 UK tv show poster magazine
>(I'm sure Kass has posted this?), Pressbooks from all the movies and alot
>of foreign cinema posters for the five feature
films.
>I have some obscure Spanish posters and large format French posters from
>the feature films -- the U.S one sheets and the British Quads.
>
>Unfortunately my British quad poster from POTA68 was "tainted" when
a
>director friend of mine got Heston to sign it for me.

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We should make a data base of all POTA
locations....with directions....i'm thinking of actual
filming sites not so much things like the statue of
liberty etc.
Tim

>
> Anyone here want to see a nice picture of "Pirates
> Cove" Point Dume, CA?
> Click on this link:
>
> Click here: Point Dume
> <http://www.parks.ca.gov/default.asp?page_id=623> SB
>
> http://www.parks.ca.gov/default.asp?page_id=623
> <http://www.parks.ca.gov/default.asp?page_id=623>
>
> If I ever visit the LA area, this is someplace I
> want to go, though it does
> definately rob the end of PLANET of its "mystique."
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>
>

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:32 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Check out Point Dume SB

We should make a data base of all POTA
locations....with directions....i'm thinking of actual
filming sites not so much things like the statue of
liberty etc.
Tim


>
> Anyone here want to see a nice picture of "Pirates
> Cove" Point Dume, CA?
> Click on this link:
>
> Click here: Point Dume
> <http://www.parks.ca.gov/default.asp?page_id=623> SB
>
> http://www.parks.ca.gov/default.asp?page_id=623
> <http://www.parks.ca.gov/default.asp?page_id=623>
>
> If I ever visit the LA area, this is someplace I
> want to go, though it does
> definately rob the end of PLANET of its "mystique."
>
> -- Rory

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.html.html In a message dated 6/13/05 9:34:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, apefan23@... writes:

We should make a data base of all POTA
locations....with directions....i'm thinking of actual
filming sites not so much things like the statue of
liberty etc.
Tim

I've been to Lake Powell!  I know all the spots there!

-- Rory<.html <.html

.html.html In a message dated 6/13/05 9:49:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

That sounds like a great idea Tim.

Rory knows 'em all I think!

Michael


Yes, I do, actually.  At least most of them.  They're not that hard to find.

-- Rory<.html <.html

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 12:04 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Check out Point Dume SB

In a message dated 6/13/05 9:49:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

That sounds like a great idea Tim.

Rory knows 'em all I think!

Michael

Yes, I do, actually.  At least most of them.  They're not that hard to find.

-- Rory

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.html.html In a message dated 6/13/05 10:15:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Do you have internet links to details about the locations similar to the one you sent this morning?

Michael

Not off hand, but I can work on it.<.html <.html

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 12:17 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Check out Point Dume SB

In a message dated 6/13/05 10:15:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Do you have internet links to details about the locations similar to the one you sent this morning?

Michael

Not off hand, but I can work on it.

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.html.html In a message dated 6/13/05 10:19:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

If you would, we can certainly get a project going to gather them on the web.

Michael


Thank the Lawgiver for Google!<.html <.html

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 12:22 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Check out Point Dume SB

In a message dated 6/13/05 10:19:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

If you would, we can certainly get a project going to gather them on the web.

Michael

Thank the Lawgiver for Google!

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Sounds Great! I hope these new comics will be easily found at shops
here in the States.



--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> I have followed up some of the leads Dario gave me regarding a

potential new

> comic book series from Canada.
>
> I have some VERY elaborate details about this venture, but I am

sworn to

> secrecy so I cannot say much.
>
> I can confirm what Dario said about a series being planned (I know

for a

> fact many pages are completed). These are going to be in full

colour too.

> We're talking CLASSIC POTA - movie environment.
>
> As Dario mentioned, these are all CANADIAN based comic people. I

have seen

> the names and they are all respected, established comic artists and

writers.

> The head honcho is a fan:
>
> "In the long run, I'm possibly one of the biggest APES fans

around. I'll do

> good by our hairy friends, I promise"
>
> He complimented Neil on his art (particularly BEWARE THE BEAST)

too.If the

> first series of 6 comics sells well, they have mentioned the

possibility of

> looking for other material.
>
> I will release details as I am permitted to but I don't want to do

anything

> to test this relationship.
>
> I will release what I can, when I can. Please don't email me

privately to

> prod me because I CANNOT say more.
>
> I have also mentioned Simian Scrolls to the head honcho and asked

if he will

> be available to interview when the time is right.
>
> COMMENTS?
>
> Michael
>

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of John
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 12:57 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Breaking News - Comics on the way!

Sounds Great! I hope these new comics will be easily found at shops
here in the States.



--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> I have followed up some of the leads Dario gave me regarding a
potential new
> comic book series from Canada.
> 
> I have some VERY elaborate details about this venture, but I am
sworn to
> secrecy so I cannot say much.
> 
> I can confirm what Dario said about a series being planned (I know
for a
> fact many pages are completed).  These are going to be in full
colour too.
> We're talking CLASSIC POTA - movie environment.
> 
> As Dario mentioned, these are all CANADIAN based comic people.  I
have seen
> the names and they are all respected, established comic artists and
writers.
> The head honcho is a fan:
> 
> "In the long run, I'm possibly one of the biggest APES fans
around.  I'll do
> good by our hairy friends, I promise"
> 
> He complimented Neil on his art (particularly BEWARE THE BEAST)
too.If the
> first series of 6 comics sells well, they have mentioned the
possibility of
> looking for other material.
> 
> I will release details as I am permitted to but I don't want to do
anything
> to test this relationship.
> 
> I will release what I can, when I can.  Please don't email me
privately to
> prod me because I CANNOT say more.
> 
> I have also mentioned Simian Scrolls to the head honcho and asked
if he will
> be available to interview when the time is right.
> 
> COMMENTS?
> 

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-----Original Message-----
From: POTA_Phenomenon@yahoogroups.com [POTA_Phenomenon@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of veetus@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:03 PM
To: potacollective; the gang; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com; pota_Phenomenon@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [POTA_Phenomenon] OT:Who is the villain at Fox?

  I think most people would agree that Fox is not handling "Planet of the Apes" very well. They pretty much sank the franchise with their reimagination. But, like the plant the astronauts find in the original, new things keep peeping through; action figures, trading cards, a new comic book series. How could Fox mismanage such an evergreen property?

  But we know the best way to jumpstart it is with a feature film, a good one. What are the odds of that happening, given that POTA is basically stuck with Fox? Through no effort of those currently heading the studio, Fox owns POTA. It can't be made elsewhere.

  Anyway, here's an article at the famous movie website aintitcool.com with an educated guess at who is mucking things up at Fox. The article is basically about "X-Men 3", Fox's big flick for 2006, but the first part talks about Fox's track record and how they are alienating directors, such as the director of last year's "I, Robot". POTA2001 isn't mentioned but the message is clear. Maybe we'd be better off if POTA time warps another 30 years.   http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=20443    - - - Jeff

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In a message dated 6/13/2005 9:05:56 P.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

Yes, I do, actually.  At least most of them.  They're not that hard to find.

 

Here's a quiz question. 

 

What is Z & C's suite number at the Beverly Wilshire Hotel?

 

 

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It's funny too, because Tom Rothman hasn't done shit!

And even that is being generous.  He was Jim Jarmusch's

producer for Down By Law.  Other than a doco interview

and a guest spot on a failed TV series, that's it!

How he got #7 in Premiere's 2003 annual Power 100 List

is beyond me.  He must have kissed the right ass,

because judging from his IMDB credits he's nobody.

Now I know why Fox sucks so bad. It has guys like

him in charge.  What were they thinking? Or were they?

 

 

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Sounds great, Greg!

Patrick

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
> Patrick:
>
> Sure, I'll make the screen grabs available. There's a bit too many
to fit in the group files, but I discussed it with Hunter and he's
agreed to host them on his site, although it will probably just be
for a limited amount of time. I'll need a few days to pull them off
the discs where I have them archived, and I'll need to convert them
from bitmaps to jpegs so the files are more reasonably sized.
>
> I'll make an announcement when they're available to download.
>
> Greg
>
>
> patrickmichaeltilton <patrickmichaeltilton@y...> wrote:
> This is me being greedy, now, so... fair warning.
>
> When you say that you do enough grabs that you could easily make
the
> sets twice as big... hmmm... is there any chance that those frame-
> grab pics could be sent to a POTA DG "File" as complete JPEGs (and
> not to the "Photo" section, where they end up getting shrunk down
> to "Briefcase" size)...? Just the raw frame-grabs? There ain't
enough
> decent frame-grabs of BENEATH-through-BATTLE out there, in my
> opinion. Kassidy has a great collection of frame-grabs from the 14
TV
> episodes on her site, as does the "Goingfaster" site of the ANSA
ship
> scenes. As of yet, I don't yet have my new DVD burner installed (a
> pal of mine is gonna get to it within the month, with any luck),
and
> I don't yet know how to do frame-grabs on my own, otherwise I'd be
> doing them myself!
>
> I'm talking, of course, of the complete WIDESCREEN images, and not
> any PAN-&-SCAN truncated pics. As much as I dig seeing the faux
TOPPS
> sets you dudes have done, with the little captions added on top of
> the images, I'd also love to see the complete pics. If you've
> got 'em, is there any chance of you posting 'em either here as JPEG
> files in the "Files" section? If you'd like, feel free to post 'em
in
> the "Files" section of my POTA PHENOMENON site, too, or instead, if
> there's not as much room left here in DG-land. I'd be happier than
an
> uncle's monkey to host 'em at my site.
>
> Patrick

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 6/9/05 8:26:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> Michael.Whitty@d... writes:
>
>
> > Very good Patrick.
> >
> > Rory, isn't it about time you disagree?
> >
> > Come on, the amount of posts this month is looking very

unhealthy. Get flaming Rory!

> >
> > Michael
> >
>
> Patrick is whacked. He's one of these POTA knuckleheads that

thinks everything is right next to everything else, like James and
his ideas about Cornelius' map. When did Taylor and Nova have the
time to go back to the waterfall at the rock pool, not taking into
account that it's in the opposite direction from where they were
heading at the end of PLANET, and hundreds of miles away?

> It's stupid to think such a thing. Why can't Patrick just admit

the facts? Dehn goofed, and he goofed often.

>
> -- Rory

*** Rory, you're of the opinion that Taylor and Nova rode their horse
HUNDREDS OF MILES down the beach when they left Zaius and the Cave
before they found the Statue of Liberty. You seem to think that DAYS
passed during that short bit of screen time. Yet there's no
indication whatsoever that that journey lasted so long that there was
a NIGHT following that sunny day. A simple series of transition-shots
showing a sunset... another day... a night... these all could've been
done -- JUST AS THEY WERE IN THE EARLIER SCENE, the trek from Dead
Lake to the Waterfall.

The Statue of Liberty is within an afternoon horse's ride down the
coastline from Cornelius' cave. You insist that they're hundreds of
miles away from it because you insist that Dead Lake is Chesapeake
Bay.

I disagree. Cornelius would've found TONS of artifactual remnants of
human cities between locales that far away from New York City (where
the Statue undoubtedly is). There is no "hundreds of miles" involved
here. At the rate of travel they make with a horse-drawn wagon, it
takes them only a couple days at most to get from Ape City to "the
diggings" -- and they aren't at a full gallop during that trip. At
the rate they were travelling, it would've taken them a helluva lot
longer to reach that site from Ape City. I don't buy into your
interpretation of the Map and the size of land it covers -- and I
don't agree with James regarding the directions on it, either (I seem
to recall that we agree that the "right" side is North -- that's what
you argued for years ago at the old Yahoo group).

"When did Taylor and Nova have the time to go back to the waterfall
at the rock pool, not taking into account that it's in the opposite
direction from where they were heading at the end of PLANET, and
hundreds of miles away?" you ask.

They had all the time in between the moment when Taylor finds the
Statue (when Zira and Cornelius were ENGAGED to be married) and
LATER, when Zira had become Cornelius' "lawfully wedded wife" (as she
tells the Commission in "ESCAPE"). Taylor and Nova didn't have to
travel hundreds of miles, and we don't know the route they took to
get from the Statue to that part of the Forbidden Zone near enough to
Brent's landing site -- a site which HAD to be close enough to Ape
City for him and Nova to ride that horse there (and who knows how
long THAT trip took?).

Taylor and Nova had been heading further up the coast, following the
shoreline. When they found the Statue, perhaps they went past it a
bit... perhaps they found an area where they couldn't go along the
shoreline anymore, due to the rocks blocking the way. The end-shot
of "PLANET" actually looks like such a spot -- making it, perhaps,
a "dead end" literally and symbolically. But supposing that they
weren't able to go much further along the shoreline: where would they
go then?

We don't know what lies further along the shore, since Cornelius
obviously hadn't mapped it -- his Map doesn't include any "X"-marks-
the-spot showing the Statue, and I don't think it's likely that he
would've actually SEEN the Statue and NOT marked it on his Map. I
don't think Cornelius knew the Statue existed -- he hadn't travelled
far enough down the shoreline to see it. Otherwise, the artifacts in
the Cave wouldn't be as stunning a discovery (in his opinion) as that
of the huge HUMAN-shaped image of the Statue.

We don't know what lies further off to the "right" of Cornelius' map.
Taylor and Nova, evidently, went a certain distance further along the
shore, "rightward"/Northward, and then had no choice but to double-
back when they didn't find Zaius' hypothetical "jungle beyond the
Forbidden Zone" and needed food and water for themselves and their
horse.

They were able to make better time on a horse than he and his fellow
astronauts were able to make on foot, so crossing the same stretch of
desert (and more) that he had already crossed with only THREE days'
worth of food and water would've been easier. I could see them
swinging around for no other reason than that Dead Lake has WATER in
it. Even if there's no food, at least they could have something to
drink. And, as long as they're back at the lake, it's only so far --
Taylor knows -- to the Waterfall area.

It ain't a "fact" that Taylor would've had to gallop hundreds of
miles to get back to the Waterfall -- it's only your/Rory's
interpretation of the Map, and it's a bogus one, as far as I'm
concerned.

You just don't like my latest postings at my POTA Phenomenon site
regarding the Circular Timeline, Rory... that's why you're being Mr.
Disagreeable about my Dog-Tags Theory. Admit it!

Patrick

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of patrickmichaeltilton
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 3:14 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Sideshow Nova dog tags

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 6/9/05 8:26:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> Michael.Whitty@d... writes:
>
>
> > Very good Patrick.
> > 
> > Rory, isn't it about time you disagree?
> >
> > Come on, the amount of posts this month is looking very
unhealthy. Get flaming Rory!
> >
> > Michael
> >
>
> Patrick is whacked.  He's one of these POTA knuckleheads that
thinks everything is right next to everything else, like James and
his ideas about Cornelius' map.  When did Taylor and Nova have the
time to go back to the waterfall at the rock pool, not taking into
account that it's in the opposite direction from where they were
heading at the end of PLANET, and hundreds of miles away? 
> It's stupid to think such a thing.  Why can't Patrick just admit
the facts?  Dehn goofed, and he goofed often.
>
> -- Rory

*** Rory, you're of the opinion that Taylor and Nova rode their horse
HUNDREDS OF MILES down the beach when they left Zaius and the Cave
before they found the Statue of Liberty. You seem to think that DAYS
passed during that short bit of screen time. Yet there's no
indication whatsoever that that journey lasted so long that there was
a NIGHT following that sunny day. A simple series of transition-shots
showing a sunset... another day... a night... these all could've been
done -- JUST AS THEY WERE IN THE EARLIER SCENE, the trek from Dead
Lake to the Waterfall.

The Statue of Liberty is within an afternoon horse's ride down the
coastline from Cornelius' cave. You insist that they're hundreds of
miles away from it because you insist that Dead Lake is Chesapeake
Bay.

I disagree. Cornelius would've found TONS of artifactual remnants of
human cities between locales that far away from New York City (where
the Statue undoubtedly is). There is no "hundreds of miles" involved
here. At the rate of travel they make with a horse-drawn wagon, it
takes them only a couple days at most to get from Ape City to "the
diggings" -- and they aren't at a full gallop during that trip. At
the rate they were travelling, it would've taken them a helluva lot
longer to reach that site from Ape City. I don't buy into your
interpretation of the Map and the size of land it covers -- and I
don't agree with James regarding the directions on it, either (I seem
to recall that we agree that the "right" side is North -- that's what
you argued for years ago at the old Yahoo group).

"When did Taylor and Nova have the time to go back to the waterfall
at the rock pool, not taking into account that it's in the opposite
direction from where they were heading at the end of PLANET, and
hundreds of miles away?" you ask.

They had all the time in between the moment when Taylor finds the
Statue (when Zira and Cornelius were ENGAGED to be married) and
LATER, when Zira had become Cornelius' "lawfully wedded wife" (as she
tells the Commission in "ESCAPE"). Taylor and Nova didn't have to
travel hundreds of miles, and we don't know the route they took to
get from the Statue to that part of the Forbidden Zone near enough to
Brent's landing site -- a site which HAD to be close enough to Ape
City for him and Nova to ride that horse there (and who knows how
long THAT trip took?).

Taylor and Nova had been heading further up the coast, following the
shoreline. When they found the Statue, perhaps they went past it a
bit... perhaps they found an area where they couldn't go along the
shoreline anymore, due to the rocks blocking the way. The end-shot
of "PLANET" actually looks like such a spot -- making it, perhaps,
a "dead end" literally and symbolically. But supposing that they
weren't able to go much further along the shoreline: where would they
go then?

We don't know what lies further along the shore, since Cornelius
obviously hadn't mapped it -- his Map doesn't include any "X"-marks-
the-spot showing the Statue, and I don't think it's likely that he
would've actually SEEN the Statue and NOT marked it on his Map. I
don't think Cornelius knew the Statue existed -- he hadn't travelled
far enough down the shoreline to see it. Otherwise, the artifacts in
the Cave wouldn't be as stunning a discovery (in his opinion) as that
of the huge HUMAN-shaped image of the Statue.

We don't know what lies further off to the "right" of Cornelius' map.
Taylor and Nova, evidently, went a certain distance further along the
shore, "rightward"/Northward, and then had no choice but to double-
back when they didn't find Zaius' hypothetical "jungle beyond the
Forbidden Zone" and needed food and water for themselves and their
horse.

They were able to make better time on a horse than he and his fellow
astronauts were able to make on foot, so crossing the same stretch of
desert (and more) that he had already crossed with only THREE days'
worth of food and water would've been easier. I could see them
swinging around for no other reason than that Dead Lake has WATER in
it. Even if there's no food, at least they could have something to
drink. And, as long as they're back at the lake, it's only so far --
Taylor knows -- to the Waterfall area.

It ain't a "fact" that Taylor would've had to gallop hundreds of
miles to get back to the Waterfall -- it's only your/Rory's
interpretation of the Map, and it's a bogus one, as far as I'm
concerned.

You just don't like my latest postings at my POTA Phenomenon site
regarding the Circular Timeline, Rory... that's why you're being Mr.
Disagreeable about my Dog-Tags Theory. Admit it!

Patrick

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:

> Here's a link to Patricks group for those who want to know why Rory

is upset!

-- Well I have checked this 'discussion' out and I now have a raging
headache! :-)

Patrick does come up with some very detailed and well thought out
ideas though and even manages to get the words 'ejaculated semen' into
a POTA discussion, well done!

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:10 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Sideshow Nova dog tags

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:
> Here's a link to Patricks group for those who want to know why Rory
is upset!

-- Well I have checked this 'discussion' out and I now have a raging
headache! :-)

Patrick does come up with some very detailed and well thought out
ideas though and even manages to get the words 'ejaculated semen' into
a POTA discussion, well done!

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 9:54 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Freeloaders

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> The strip MUST have been "stolen" from the group and then sent around by thieves claiming to have drawn and authored them.

 

-- A fair bit of other 'stuff' has also been 'stolen' from this group as well. For example whilst looking through another site's stuff I noticed something of mine.
 
A TV show map they are using is a version of the map that John Oberhauser put together from screen grabs.
Unfortunately the version they are using is not John's original but a version of a picture that I created and fixed up, removing the obvious joins and extensively changing the table top: http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/cGGvQnkdQpFka9gig32kP7UPi0GUSTQETQxzXaYprMyxmSKqPOscAaEEA_5SPXO2bIxfKOD9diV1gteUS1pu/Urko%27s%20wall%20map.jpg

I even had the decency to ask permission from John, here on this group, if I could alter his image.

(Post #23428: http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/message/23428  ) 
 
My version, which involved a lot of hard work, was only made available (in the files section) to the members of the PotaDG on the 20th of December 2004. Somehow since then it seems to have made it's way to this other site without my permission being sought.
When I asked politely that it be removed the owner replied that "FOX is the true owners of everything POTA and thus nothing created by a fan from their copyright can truely be owned by that fan" and of course refused my request, so what can you do?

 

 

Neil

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.html Thanks for those pics Rory.

I too imagined it to still be some more remote beach, so seeing all that development right at the top of the cliffs was a surprise.

From the looks of it, Taylor and Nova treked along the beach on the right side and the statue was mounted on the leftmost side of that beach. Can anyone confirm? (As remote as the chance may be, I would like to know should I ever do make it there one day.)

I wonder of the nearby residents know it has such a significant film history?

Dario

Haristas@... wrote:

Anyone here want to see a nice picture of "Pirates Cove" Point Dume, CA?  Click on this link:

Click here: Point Dume SB

http://www.parks.ca.gov/default.asp?page_id=623

If I ever visit the LA area, this is someplace I want to go, though it does definately rob the end of PLANET of its "mystique."

-- Rory

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Dario
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:54 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Check out Point Dume SB

Thanks for those pics Rory.

I too imagined it to still be some more remote beach, so seeing all that development right at the top of the cliffs was a surprise.

From the looks of it, Taylor and Nova treked along the beach on the right side and the statue was mounted on the leftmost side of that beach. Can anyone confirm? (As remote as the chance may be, I would like to know should I ever do make it there one day.)

I wonder of the nearby residents know it has such a significant film history?

Dario

Haristas@... wrote:

Anyone here want to see a nice picture of "Pirates Cove" Point Dume, CA?  Click on this link:

Click here: Point Dume SB

http://www.parks.ca.gov/default.asp?page_id=623

If I ever visit the LA area, this is someplace I want to go, though it does definately rob the end of PLANET of its "mystique."

-- Rory

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.html.html In a message dated 6/13/05 11:49:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

Anyway, here's an article at the famous movie website aintitcool.com with an educated guess at who is mucking things up at Fox. The article is basically about "X-Men 3", Fox's big flick for 2006, but the first part talks about Fox's track record and how they are alienating directors, such as the director of last year's "I, Robot". POTA2001 isn't mentioned but the message is clear. Maybe we'd be better off if POTA time warps another 30 years.   http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=20443    - - - Jeff

I hate the modern Fox.  The studio hasn't been the same since that Aussie bastard bought it!

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I'm glad that you managed to get them to look at Neil's work. Whoever will be drawing these (aside from Fowler) will inevitably be compared to the former POTA artists we all love some much, including Neil. So they've got their work cut out. If things progress on that front, I hope that Neil gets a crack at them too. I knew that this was all being put together by fellow Canadians, but I kind of assumed that the art would also include non-canucks. I hope this is not an intended exclusive selection.

When I spoke with Fowler he had plenty of samples of his own art. We both looked together through the pile to see if there were any apes. We found one that had an apelike creature (not POTA of course, just regular ape), but it was too hard for me to imagine how good he would be with Classic apes.

PS: What happened to the handfull of other Canucks that used to be around here. Menluth used to be a pretty regular poster, but now that I think of it, he's been silent for a long time. Hell, with a hockey strike going on, they should all be clamoring here.

Dario

Whitty, Michael wrote:

I have followed up some of the leads Dario gave me regarding a potential new comic book series from Canada.

 

I have some VERY elaborate details about this venture, but I am sworn to secrecy so I cannot say much.

 

I can confirm what Dario said about a series being planned (I know for a fact many pages are completed).  These are going to be in full colour too.  We're talking CLASSIC POTA - movie environment.

 

As Dario mentioned, these are all CANADIAN based comic people.  I have seen the names and they are all respected, established comic artists and writers.  The head honcho is a fan:

 

"In the long run, I'm possibly one of the biggest APES fans around.  I'll do good by our hairy friends, I promise"

 

He complimented Neil on his art (particularly BEWARE THE BEAST) too.If the first series of 6 comics sells well, they have mentioned the possibility of looking for other material.

 

I will release details as I am permitted to but I don't want to do anything to test this relationship.

 

I will release what I can, when I can.  Please don't email me privately to prod me because I CANNOT say more.

 

I have also mentioned Simian Scrolls to the head honcho and asked if he will be available to interview when the time is right.

 

COMMENTS?

 

Michael

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:12 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Who is the villain at Fox?

In a message dated 6/13/05 11:49:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

Anyway, here's an article at the famous movie website aintitcool.com with an educated guess at who is mucking things up at Fox. The article is basically about "X-Men 3", Fox's big flick for 2006, but the first part talks about Fox's track record and how they are alienating directors, such as the director of last year's "I, Robot". POTA2001 isn't mentioned but the message is clear. Maybe we'd be better off if POTA time warps another 30 years.   http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=20443    - - - Jeff

I hate the modern Fox.  The studio hasn't been the same since that Aussie bastard bought it!

-- Rory

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Dario
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:09 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Breaking News - Comics on the way!

I'm glad that you managed to get them to look at Neil's work. Whoever will be drawing these (aside from Fowler) will inevitably be compared to the former POTA artists we all love some much, including Neil. So they've got their work cut out. If things progress on that front, I hope that Neil gets a crack at them too. I knew that this was all being put together by fellow Canadians, but I kind of assumed that the art would also include non-canucks. I hope this is not an intended exclusive selection.

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.html.html In a message dated 6/14/05 1:15:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:

It ain't a "fact" that Taylor would've had to gallop hundreds of
miles to get back to the Waterfall -- it's only your/Rory's
interpretation of the Map, and it's a bogus one, as far as I'm
concerned.

It's a fact that Taylor rides north along the Atlantic shore to eventually find the statue, and no matter what the distance it places the "inland sea" and the "greenbelts" inland west of the ocean and far south of the ruins of NYC.

What's bogus -- utterly bogus! -- is your POTA "scenario" with its scatological explanations for the inconsistencies between the films, and the entire notion that the series is a coherent "saga," which is entirely false since the both the original film and its immediate sequel weren't made without any idea of a followup!

Face it, Patrick... You're a POTA CLOWN!

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Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:09 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Breaking News - Comics on the way!

When I spoke with Fowler he had plenty of samples of his own art. We both looked together through the pile to see if there were any apes. We found one that had an apelike creature (not POTA of course, just regular ape), but it was too hard for me to imagine how good he would be with Classic apes.

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.html.html In a message dated 6/14/05 6:32:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Here's a link to Patricks group for those who want to know why Rory is upset!

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/Pota_phenomenon/

Michael


I'm not upset, I'm just sick of that silly ass, Patrick!  He's mad, I tell you!

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.html.html In a message dated 6/14/05 7:10:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, nfoster@... writes:

Patrick does come up with some very detailed and well thought out
ideas though and even manages to get the words 'ejaculated semen' into
a POTA discussion, well done!

Neil

I wonder if Patrick knows that I rarely read much of anything he writes -- since it's nothing but mental -- and I do mean mental! -- masturbation!

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.html.html In a message dated 6/14/05 9:01:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, darios@... writes:

From the looks of it, Taylor and Nova treked along the beach on the right side and the statue was mounted on the leftmost side of that beach. Can anyone confirm?

The Statue of Liberty in the final shot is a matte painting -- which also includes some of the cliff and rocks on the left and the blue sky in the upper right!  It's all a painting.

The final scene was shot at the end of Zuma Beach, and the cove where the cave set was is actually right around the other side.  It's also the same spot where the beginning of ESCAPE was shot and can currently be seen in an Old Navy commercial featuring some hot young chicks dancing around in bikinis.

The shots of Taylor and Nova riding along the beach where shot just around the point to the south.

Jeff's been there. 

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.html.html In a message dated 6/14/05 9:11:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

It would be nice to tour all these places one day.

Michael


Just start saving your money!

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:26 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Sideshow Nova dog tags

In a message dated 6/14/05 7:10:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, nfoster@... writes:

Patrick does come up with some very detailed and well thought out
ideas though and even manages to get the words 'ejaculated semen' into
a POTA discussion, well done!

Neil

I wonder if Patrick knows that I rarely read much of anything he writes -- since it's nothing but mental -- and I do mean mental! -- masturbation!

-- Rory

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Dario
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:09 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Breaking News - Comics on the way!

PS: What happened to the handfull of other Canucks that used to be around here. Menluth used to be a pretty regular poster, but now that I think of it, he's been silent for a long time. Hell, with a hockey strike going on, they should all be clamoring here.

Dario

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Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:24 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Sideshow Nova dog tags

In a message dated 6/14/05 6:32:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Here's a link to Patricks group for those who want to know why Rory is upset!

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/Pota_phenomenon/

Michael

I'm not upset, I'm just sick of that silly ass, Patrick!  He's mad, I tell you!

-- Rory

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Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:35 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Check out Point Dume SB

In a message dated 6/14/05 9:11:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

It would be nice to tour all these places one day.

Michael

Just start saving your money!

-- Rory

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:22 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Sideshow Nova dog tags

Face it, Patrick... You're a POTA CLOWN!

-- Rory

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.html.html In a message dated 6/14/05 9:38:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

I guess he wants people to believe he is an authority........like ANY of us really is!!!

Excuse me, that would be me!

-- Rory<.html <.html

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:49 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Breaking News - Comics on the way!

In a message dated 6/14/05 9:38:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

I guess he wants people to believe he is an authority........like ANY of us really is!!!

Excuse me, that would be me!

-- Rory

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.html.html In a message dated 6/14/05 10:16:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

I get a lot out of Patrick's scenarios.

It gets a lot out of me too...

Of course, it's mostly in the form of vomit!

-- Rory<.html <.html

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:49 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Breaking News - Comics on the way!

In a message dated 6/14/05 9:38:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

I guess he wants people to believe he is an authority........like ANY of us really is!!!

Excuse me, that would be me!

-- Rory

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-Well....post them man........can you create a
databank on the group site?


-- Haristas@... wrote:

> In a message dated 6/13/05 9:49:31 PM Eastern
> Daylight Time,
> Michael.Whitty@... writes:
>
>
> > That sounds like a great idea Tim.
> >
> > Rory knows 'em all I think!
> >
> > Michael
> >
>
> Yes, I do, actually. At least most of them.
> They're not that hard to find.
>
> -- Rory
>

.html.html In a message dated 6/14/2005 5:19:34 AM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

Look to see if the Aged Galen clips are shown someone

They would never be shown on Sci-Fi, mainly due to the fact that they are bumpers for the TV "movies", and wouldn't work out of that context...<.html <.html

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Click here: California Guide - Photographs of Red Rock Canyon State Park
http://www.americansouthwest.net/california/red_rock_canyon/photographs.htmlbr>
Click here: Red Rock Canyon SP
http://www.parks.ca.gov/default.asp?page_id=631<.html<.html

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From: Whitty, Michael

To: 'PotaDG@yahoogroups.com'

Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 6:22 PM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Who is the villain at Fox?

He's all about the bottom line - $$$$$$$$s.

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Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:12 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Who is the villain at Fox?

In a message dated 6/13/05 11:49:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

Anyway, here's an article at the famous movie website aintitcool.com with an educated guess at who is mucking things up at Fox. The article is basically about "X-Men 3", Fox's big flick for 2006, but the first part talks about Fox's track record and how they are alienating directors, such as the director of last year's "I, Robot". POTA2001 isn't mentioned but the message is clear. Maybe we'd be better off if POTA time warps another 30 years.   http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=20443    - - - Jeff

I hate the modern Fox.  The studio hasn't been the same since that Aussie bastard bought it!

-- Rory

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From: Whitty, Michael

To: 'PotaDG@yahoogroups.com'

Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 6:40 PM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Check out Point Dume SB

Are you going to be my guide?

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Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:35 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Check out Point Dume SB

In a message dated 6/14/05 9:11:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

It would be nice to tour all these places one day.

Michael

Just start saving your money!

-- Rory

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From: Haristas@...

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 6:33 PM

Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Check out Point Dume SB

In a message dated 6/14/05 9:01:12 PM Eastern Daylight Time, darios@... writes:

From the looks of it, Taylor and Nova treked along the beach on the right side and the statue was mounted on the leftmost side of that beach. Can anyone confirm?

The Statue of Liberty in the final shot is a matte painting -- which also includes some of the cliff and rocks on the left and the blue sky in the upper right!  It's all a painting.

The final scene was shot at the end of Zuma Beach, and the cove where the cave set was is actually right around the other side.  It's also the same spot where the beginning of ESCAPE was shot and can currently be seen in an Old Navy commercial featuring some hot young chicks dancing around in bikinis.

The shots of Taylor and Nova riding along the beach where shot just around the point to the south.

Jeff's been there. 

-- Rory

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of veetus@...
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 2:47 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Who is the villain at Fox?

  If Rupert Murdoch is all about $$$$$s, it's funny they haven't had a breakout franchise like "Spiderman" or "Lord of the rings". If they were smart they'd nurture POTA, which is all theirs, instead of riding on Marvel comics' coattails or paying for properties like "Garfield" or sending franchises down in flames like "Alien vs. Predator" or alienating licensees with action figures that sit on shelves. Anyway, the people at the top make money. - - - Jeff

 

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From: Whitty, Michael

To: 'PotaDG@yahoogroups.com'

Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 6:22 PM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Who is the villain at Fox?

He's all about the bottom line - $$$$$$$$s.

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Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:12 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Who is the villain at Fox?

In a message dated 6/13/05 11:49:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:

Anyway, here's an article at the famous movie website aintitcool.com with an educated guess at who is mucking things up at Fox. The article is basically about "X-Men 3", Fox's big flick for 2006, but the first part talks about Fox's track record and how they are alienating directors, such as the director of last year's "I, Robot". POTA2001 isn't mentioned but the message is clear. Maybe we'd be better off if POTA time warps another 30 years.   http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=20443    - - - Jeff

I hate the modern Fox.  The studio hasn't been the same since that Aussie bastard bought it!

-- Rory

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of veetus@...
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 2:48 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Check out Point Dume SB

  Let your conscience be your guide. - - - J. Cricket

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From: Whitty, Michael

To: 'PotaDG@yahoogroups.com'

Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 6:40 PM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Check out Point Dume SB

Are you going to be my guide?

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:35 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Check out Point Dume SB

In a message dated 6/14/05 9:11:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

It would be nice to tour all these places one day.

Michael

Just start saving your money!

-- Rory

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In a message dated 6/14/2005 8:34:26 P.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

It's also the same spot where the beginning of ESCAPE was shot and can currently be seen in an Old Navy commercial featuring some hot young chicks dancing around in bikinis.

 

And on Futurama in the poster for Planet of the Clams,

and something else I can't remember right now.

 

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In a message dated 6/14/2005 8:38:26 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Glen Schitz (who was a moderator) and Menluth had a hissy fit

I guess that's better then Glen Hissy having a Shit Fit.

 

Couldn't resist.

 

"Resistance is futile."
   ~~~The Borg~~~~

 

 

 

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.html I was under the impression that while it is true that the absolute final shot was a matte, the preceeding shot from above the crown was created with a scaffold mounted partial model of the statue crown (in a delapidated state of course). I think that it was in "Legend of the POTA"  (Pendrei) that this was explained.

Dario

Haristas@... wrote:

From the looks of it, Taylor and Nova treked along the beach on the right side and the statue was mounted on the leftmost side of that beach. Can anyone confirm?

The Statue of Liberty in the final shot is a matte painting -- which also includes some of the cliff and rocks on the left and the blue sky in the upper right!  It's all a painting.

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Forget , I brought it up.

As for the exclusive Canadian content on the new comics, while I am glad they are coming (and even in a way happy that this is a Canadian initiative) I'm not crazy about the exclusivity aspect. I hope that it's only a temporary situation.

Dario

Whitty, Michael wrote:

Menluth was a DG moderator.

 

When James left, I begged Neil to help me make the DG look good and to achieve this I gave Neil owner status - you simply can't play with the settings unless you are an owner.

 

Glen Schitz (who was a moderator) and Menluth had a hissy fit and DEMANDED that I immediately remove Neil.  I explained to them that I trust Neil and needed him to make the site look good, but it turned quickly into a political squabble.

 

Menluth and Glen attempted a coup.  They tried to vote to remove Neil.

 

That's when I really got the shits.

 

This was always my fucking group.

 

I asked James to create it because he knew how to - it was that simple.  When he created it, the ownership was not really mentioned much because it didn't matter to me - I am extermely trusting of people.  Then James started going "Nero" and I was in a bit of a fix.

 

So I essentially said to Glen and Menluth "Fuck you guys, this is NY group and you got your status from James, not from me."

 

Helen agreed and that was two owners (me and Helen) outvoting a (psuedo) owner and a (psuedo) moderator.  So I changed Glen and Menluth back to members.

 

That didn't sit well with their egos and they went to join James in his mission to destroy POTA fandom.  Actually, in all fairness, his mission is to establish himself as a credible spokesperson for POTA.  I guess he wants people to believe he is an authority........like ANY of us really is!!!  But the outcome is that fandom is fucked - well and truly fucked to the point that absolutely nobody gives a rat's ass about POTA.  The outcome is we have made the groups an annoying political game instead of something fun and this has personified many of the morals to the POTA stories in a very ironic manner.

 

So that's what happened to Menluth.  And I, of course, am the bad guy - just ask them.

 

Michael

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Dario
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:09 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Breaking News - Comics on the way!

PS: What happened to the handfull of other Canucks that used to be around here. Menluth used to be a pretty regular poster, but now that I think of it, he's been silent for a long time. Hell, with a hockey strike going on, they should all be clamoring here.

Dario

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In a message dated 6/14/2005 8:38:26 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

And I, of course, am the bad guy

"So say good night to the bad guy."

 ~~~Al Pacino as Tony Montana~~~~ 

 

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.html.html In a message dated 6/15/05 8:07:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, darios@... writes:

I was under the impression that while it is true that the absolute final shot was a matte, the preceeding shot from above the crown was created with a scaffold mounted partial model of the statue crown (in a delapidated state of course). I think that it was in "Legend of the POTA"  (Pendrei) that this was explained.

Dario

Yes, that is true.  The top of the torch was shown that way too.

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In a message dated 6/14/2005 8:51:59 P.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

I guess he wants people to believe he is an authority........like ANY of us really is!!!

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In a message dated 6/14/2005 9:24:12 P.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

I get a lot out of Patrick's scenarios.

It gets a lot out of me too...

Of course, it's mostly in the form of vomit!

-- Rory

 

 

I think Patrick's stuff makes the POTA world a more interesting place.

A weird and twisted place, but interesting none the less.

 

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