Neil, you're a gent I'll get on to it tomorrow once I've dug it out
of the studio. thanks , Graham












-- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote

>
>
> -- Graham if you would like you can just email a copy of it to me

and

> I'll do the uploading if that would be easier for you.
>
> Neil

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In a message dated 8/15/2005 4:17:14 P.M. Central Daylight Time, nfoster@... writes:

-- I also don't have any details about it so I was also hoping someone
might help me out.

 

I believe I have a copy in my collection.

I'll scan it for you, but you may have to

remind me. I'm getting my housework

out of the way before the Fall semester.

 

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , LordTZer0@A... wrote:

> I believe I have a copy in my collection.
> I'll scan it for you, but you may have to
> remind me. I'm getting my housework
> out of the way before the Fall semester.

Cheers T that would be much appreciated if you get the chance. And
don't worry, I'll remind you (probably often) ;-)

Neil

I didn't know a hard copy existed!!! How much for the Hard copy? Please
let me know
John


In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, PhoenixCa7@a... wrote:

> I missed these! I would like to get a copy. Please let me know what I

need to

> do.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jim

Will you be doing hard copies for "Within the Planet of the Apes"?
I love my copies of "Beware the Beast" and it does seem like their
would be some interest in purchasing printed copies of this story
too, once it has been finished. I only ask now because I know there
is a cost issue in printing these and maybe you could collect money
from serious interested parties in advance to keep your cost down
this time.





--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "luke_the_drifter52"
<JLKINSER1970@h...> wrote:

> I didn't know a hard copy existed!!! How much for the Hard copy?

Please

> let me know
> John
>
>
> In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, PhoenixCa7@a... wrote:
> > I missed these! I would like to get a copy. Please let me know

what I

> need to
> > do.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Jim

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In a message dated 8/15/2005 7:09:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time, nfoster@... writes:

Cheers T that would be much appreciated if you get the chance. And
don't worry, I'll remind you (probably often) ;-)

 

Cool.  I'll get to it. 

Probably Wednesday or Thursday.

Maybe sooner.  If I get to that room.

 

 

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In a message dated 8/15/2005 7:32:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time, JLKINSER1970@... writes:

I didn't know a hard copy existed!!!

 

Would these be in color?

How would it be different

from just printing it out?

 

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "John" <DrZaiusDavis@a...> wrote:

> Will you be doing hard copies for "Within the Planet of the Apes"?
> I love my copies of "Beware the Beast" and it does seem like their
> would be some interest in purchasing printed copies of this story
> too, once it has been finished. I only ask now because I know there
> is a cost issue in printing these and maybe you could collect money
> from serious interested parties in advance to keep your cost down
> this time.

-- Well if there is enough interest in a printed collection of Within
I don't see why it can't be done. Of course I'm just the monkey
chained to the drawing board so all that sort of thing would have to
be discussed with my writer/editor/manager/guru and thouroughly decent
chappie Mr. Whitty. ;-)

Neil

Neil, can't see your full email address anywhere to send you the
copy
(told you I was a luddite)My email address seems to show at the top
left so if you drop me aline I can reply.
Best Graham.










--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote

>
> -- Graham if you would like you can just email a copy of it to me

and

> I'll do the uploading if that would be easier for you.
>
> Neil

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Thanks Michael copy of the art work is whizzing round the world as
we speak,Also sent a couple of surprises as well.
all the best Graham.






-- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:

> Hi Graham
>
> Neil is:
>
> munkeyman63au@y...
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On

Behalf

> Of hill19652000
> Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2005 2:51 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Simain Scrolls
>
> Neil, can't see your full email address anywhere to send you the
> copy
> (told you I was a luddite)My email address seems to show at the

top

> left so if you drop me aline I can reply.
> Best Graham.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote
> >
> > -- Graham if you would like you can just email a copy of it to

me

> and
> > I'll do the uploading if that would be easier for you.
> >
> > Neil
>
>
>
>
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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of hill19652000
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 8:11 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Simain Scrolls

Thanks Michael copy of the art work is whizzing round the world as
we speak,Also sent a couple of surprises as well.
all the best Graham.






  -- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Hi Graham
> 
> Neil is:
>
> munkeyman63au@y...
> 
> Michael
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of hill19652000
> Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2005 2:51 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Simain Scrolls
> 
> Neil, can't see your full email address anywhere to send you the
> copy
> (told you I was a luddite)My email address seems to show at the
top
> left so if you drop me aline I can reply.
> Best Graham.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote
> >
> > -- Graham if you would like you can just email a copy of it to
me
> and
> > I'll do the uploading if that would be easier for you.
> >
> > Neil
>
>
>
>
> SPONSORED LINKS
>
> Fantasy
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/gads?
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>
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>
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>
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I'm sure Neil will!! (my this has got very cryptic,I'll come clean
and say it's just a few more pics)





- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:

> Can we share the surprises?
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On

Behalf Of

> hill19652000
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 8:11 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Simain Scrolls
>
>
> Thanks Michael copy of the art work is whizzing round the world as
> we speak,Also sent a couple of surprises as well.
> all the best Graham.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...>

wrote:

> > Hi Graham
> >
> > Neil is:
> >
> > munkeyman63au@y...
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On
> Behalf
> > Of hill19652000
> > Sent: Wednesday, 17 August 2005 2:51 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Simain Scrolls
> >
> > Neil, can't see your full email address anywhere to send you the
> > copy
> > (told you I was a luddite)My email address seems to show at the
> top
> > left so if you drop me aline I can reply.
> > Best Graham.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote
> > >
> > > -- Graham if you would like you can just email a copy of it to
> me
> > and
> > > I'll do the uploading if that would be easier for you.
> > >
> > > Neil
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Thanks for sharing these. I really like the Urko painting.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
> Okay, first a big thank you to Graham Hill who has shared some of
his
> POTA paintings with us. I have just uploaded them to the 'Members'
Art
> Gallery' folder in the Files section:
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Members%27%20Art%
20gal
> lery/
>
> Here are the links to the individual paintings including the art
for the
> cover of the latest issue of Simian Scrolls (#11)
>
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Members%27%20Art%
20gallery/a
> pes%20919.jpg>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Members%27%20Art%
20gallery/ap
> es%20919.jpg
>
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Members%27%20Art%
20gallery/a
> pes%20920.jpg>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Members%27%20Art%
20gallery/ap
> es%20920.jpg
>
>
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Members%27%20Art%
20gallery/b
> urke%20one.jpg>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Members%27%20Art%
20gallery/bu
> rke%20one.jpg
>
>
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Members%27%20Art%
20gallery/t
> hisoneb.jpg>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Members%27%20Art%
20gallery/th
> isoneb.jpg
>
> Once again, a big thanks to Graham for sharing these with us and
> everyone should go and check these out, Graham has a great and
> individual style to his paintings and it's always great to see new
POTA
> art!
>
> Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of John
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 9:37 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Graham's paintings

Thanks for sharing these. I really like the Urko painting.




--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
> Okay, first a big thank you to Graham Hill who has shared some of
his
> POTA paintings with us. I have just uploaded them to the 'Members'
Art
> Gallery' folder in the Files section:
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Members%27%20Art%
20gal
> lery/
> 
> Here are the links to the individual paintings including the art
for the
> cover of the latest issue of Simian Scrolls (#11)
> 
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Members%27%20Art%
20gallery/a
> pes%20919.jpg>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Members%27%20Art%
20gallery/ap
> es%20919.jpg
> 
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Members%27%20Art%
20gallery/a
> pes%20920.jpg>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Members%27%20Art%
20gallery/ap
> es%20920.jpg
>
> 
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Members%27%20Art%
20gallery/b
> urke%20one.jpg>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Members%27%20Art%
20gallery/bu
> rke%20one.jpg
>
> 
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Members%27%20Art%
20gallery/t
> hisoneb.jpg>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Members%27%20Art%
20gallery/th
> isoneb.jpg
>
> Once again, a big thanks to Graham for sharing these with us and
> everyone should go and check these out, Graham has a great and
> individual style to his paintings and it's always great to see new
POTA
> art!
> 
> Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , taebokitti@a... wrote:

> One Comic (sung to One Love by Bob Marley)
>
> One comic
> One comic
> Let's get together and read all night
>
> One comic
> One comic
> Neil get your pencil
> and draw those apes
> Armageddon is a coming
> and the bomb's ready
>
> One comic
> One comic
> I need my pota fix
> Put the apes in charge
> Give me my comic
> And I'll be a happy reader.
>
>
> I don't write these for just anybody guys, so get creative. new

comics please.


-- Very cool Elaine.
Michael I think Elaine deserves to be first for the next chapters,
don't you? Very creative!

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 10:30 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Song of the Day: One Comic

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> One Comic (sung to One Love by Bob Marley)
>
> One comic
> One comic
> Let's get together and read all night
>
> One comic
> One comic
> Neil get your pencil
> and draw those apes
> Armageddon is a coming
> and the bomb's ready
>
> One comic
> One comic
> I need my pota fix
> Put the apes in charge
> Give me my comic
> And I'll be a happy reader.
>
>
> I don't write these for just anybody guys, so get creative. new
comics please.


-- Very cool Elaine.
Michael I think Elaine deserves to be first for the next chapters,
don't you? Very creative!

Neil

Okay, first a big thank you to Graham Hill who has shared some of his POTA paintings with us. I have just uploaded them to the 'Members' Art Gallery' folder in the Files section:

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Members%27%20Art%20gallery/

 

Here are the links to the individual paintings including the art for the cover of the latest issue of Simian Scrolls (#11)

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Members%27%20Art%20gallery/apes%20919.jpg

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Members%27%20Art%20gallery/apes%20920.jpg

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Members%27%20Art%20gallery/burke%20one.jpg

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Members%27%20Art%20gallery/thisoneb.jpg

Once again, a big thanks to Graham for sharing these with us and everyone should go and check these out, Graham has a great and individual style to his paintings and it's always great to see new POTA art!

 

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:

> Yes I do - could you please send to her I do not have them here.
> Elaine - you know the drill...please read, comment and nominate!

-- Okay, next 2 chapters are on the way to Elaine right now.

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of taebokitti@...
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 11:57 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Song of the Day: One Comic

Thanks Neil! They are awesome as usual. I love your drawing of Ursus and the surprised look on his face. I nominate Dr Zaius to receive the chapters. Elaine  

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In a message dated 8/16/2005 8:57:45 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Are you able to send to him Elaine?

 

Send me Elaine as well please.

 

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Got them. Thanks Elaine. I had almost forgot where this story had left
off. Great stuff.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> I'll try to send the comic on to Dr Zaius. Elaine

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of John
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 12:31 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Song of the Day: One Comic

Got them. Thanks Elaine. I had almost forgot where this story had left
off. Great stuff.



--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> I'll try to send the comic on to Dr Zaius. Elaine

He should have them. Thanks again.


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> Please pass to the good LORD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On

Behalf Of

> John
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 12:31 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Song of the Day: One Comic
>
>
> Got them. Thanks Elaine. I had almost forgot where this story had

left

> off. Great stuff.
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> > I'll try to send the comic on to Dr Zaius. Elaine
>
>
>
>
>
>
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He should have them. Thanks again.


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> Please pass to the good LORD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On

Behalf Of

> John
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 12:31 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Song of the Day: One Comic
>
>
> Got them. Thanks Elaine. I had almost forgot where this story had

left

> off. Great stuff.
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> > I'll try to send the comic on to Dr Zaius. Elaine
>
>
>
>
>
>
> SPONSORED LINKS
> Fantasy science fiction Science fiction books Science

fiction book

> club
> Science fiction magazine Science fiction novel Writing

science

> fiction
>
> _____
>
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>
>
> * Visit your group " PotaDG

<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG> "

> on the web.
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Service

> <
>
>
> _____
>
>
>
> --
>
>

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of John
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 12:38 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Song of the Day: One Comic

He should have them. Thanks again.


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> Please pass to the good LORD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of
> John
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 12:31 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Song of the Day: One Comic
>
>
> Got them. Thanks Elaine. I had almost forgot where this story had
left
> off. Great stuff.
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> > I'll try to send the comic on to Dr Zaius. Elaine
>
>
>
>
>
>
> SPONSORED LINKS
> Fantasy science fiction       Science fiction books       Science
fiction book
> club      
> Science fiction magazine       Science fiction novel       Writing
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>
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>
> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
>
>
>      
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--

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of John
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 12:37 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Song of the Day: One Comic

He should have them. Thanks again.


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> Please pass to the good LORD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of
> John
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 12:31 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Song of the Day: One Comic
>
>
> Got them. Thanks Elaine. I had almost forgot where this story had
left
> off. Great stuff.
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> > I'll try to send the comic on to Dr Zaius. Elaine
>
>
>
>
>
>
> SPONSORED LINKS
> Fantasy science fiction       Science fiction books       Science
fiction book
> club      
> Science fiction magazine       Science fiction novel       Writing
science
> fiction      
>
>    _____ 
>
> YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS
>
>
>      
> *      Visit your group " PotaDG
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG> "
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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of taebokitti@...
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 12:39 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Song of the Day: One Comic

On the way. Elaine

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of taebokitti@...
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 12:42 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Song of the Day: One Comic

In a message dated 8/16/2005 7:40:48 PM Pacific Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Say it again to get our posting numbers up!

-Sorry, Michael, I am drinking a glass of wine. Say what again? Elaine 

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Hi. My name is Bob Smith and I am new to the group please welcome me
to the group one at a time. Feel free to post your greetings often. ;D


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> Say it again to get our posting numbers up!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On

Behalf Of

> John
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 12:38 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Song of the Day: One Comic
>
>
> He should have them. Thanks again.
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
> <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> > Please pass to the good LORD
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ]On
> Behalf Of
> > John
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 12:31 PM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Song of the Day: One Comic
> >
> >
> > Got them. Thanks Elaine. I had almost forgot where this story had
> left
> > off. Great stuff.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:
> > > I'll try to send the comic on to Dr Zaius. Elaine
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> fiction book
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Writing

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> >
> >
> >
> > * Visit your group " PotaDG
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of

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<

> .
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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of John
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 12:43 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Song of the Day: One Comic

Hi. My name is Bob Smith and I am new to the group please welcome me
to the group one at a time. Feel free to post your greetings often. ;D

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of taebokitti@...
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 12:47 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Song of the Day: One Comic

In a message dated 8/16/2005 7:44:20 PM Pacific Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Nothing - John posted twice and I think that's the best way to get our total posts for August up to 1000!  :)

 

Is it AUSTRALIAN wine?

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of taebokitti@...
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 12:48 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Song of the Day: One Comic

In a message dated 8/16/2005 7:46:34 PM Pacific Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Bob, you need to ask a question based on the most hits in our files.

 

Please research past threads, see which ones got most hits and the ask the question again!!!  Well, that's what "the others" do.....  ;)

 

And the fake ID - you need to tune that up a bit!

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of John
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 12:43 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Song of the Day: One Comic

Hi. My name is Bob Smith and I am new to the group please welcome me
to the group one at a time. Feel free to post your greetings often. ;D

 

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My bad. Oh, I was just wondering about the different opinions on the
Planet of the Apes timelines. Feel free to comment. Except you
Patrick. I hear you have too much free time. :)


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> Bob, you need to ask a question based on the most hits in our files.
>
> Please research past threads, see which ones got most hits and the

ask the

> question again!!! Well, that's what "the others" do..... ;)
>
> And the fake ID - you need to tune that up a bit!
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On

Behalf Of

> John
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 12:43 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Song of the Day: One Comic
>
>
> Hi. My name is Bob Smith and I am new to the group please welcome

me

> to the group one at a time. Feel free to post your greetings

often. ;D

>
>
>
>
>

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of John
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 12:53 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Song of the Day: One Comic

My bad. Oh, I was just wondering about the different opinions on the
Planet of the Apes timelines. Feel free to comment. Except you
Patrick. I hear you have too much free time. :)


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> Bob, you need to ask a question based on the most hits in our files.
> 
> Please research past threads, see which ones got most hits and the
ask the
> question again!!!  Well, that's what "the others" do.....  ;)
> 
> And the fake ID - you need to tune that up a bit!
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of
> John
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 12:43 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Song of the Day: One Comic
>
>
> Hi. My name is Bob Smith and I am new to the group please welcome
me
> to the group one at a time. Feel free to post your greetings
often. ;D
>
>
> 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of taebokitti@...
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 12:54 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] blank posts

Sorry all. I don't know why my posts are coming up blank, I am writing stuff. Maybe my computer is possessed. Elaine

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Hey this is great! I'm seeing stuff in these "blank" post too and I'm
not even drinking.



--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> What? That post was BLANK!!! :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On

Behalf Of

> taebokitti@a...
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 12:54 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] blank posts
>
>
> Sorry all. I don't know why my posts are coming up blank, I am

writing

> stuff. Maybe my computer is possessed. Elaine
>
>

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Melinda G Kettler
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 1:04 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Graham's Paintings

I just wanted to say to Graham - your paintings are so great!  Love the detail and color and style.  Very good.  You are quite talented.  Thank you for sharing these.

 

Melinda

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In a message dated 8/16/2005 9:33:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Please pass to the good LORD

I don't seem to have 43 & 44.

I think either I missed them or

I miss placed them.

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of LordTZer0@...
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 1:12 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Song of the Day: One Comic

In a message dated 8/16/2005 9:33:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Please pass to the good LORD

I don't seem to have 43 & 44.

I think either I missed them or

I miss placed them.

 

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In a message dated 8/16/2005 10:19:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

They were the ones where we revealed the identity of the apprentice - can anyone forward these to T?

 

That seems vaguely familiar.

But they must have been mislabeled.

Elaine can't find them either.

Maybe they're under a different name.

 

 

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , taebokitti@a... wrote:

> I should buy some Australian wine for a change from the cheap stuff.

-- But the Aussie wine is the cheap stuff! Well the stuff I drink is!
Cheap wine and a three day growth...

Neil ;-)

True, Caesar led the revolution in "CONQUEST", but by the
time "BATTLE" happens, he seems to have delegated the military
command duties to Aldo... "GENERAL Aldo!" as he insists Jake call
him, right after the opening credits.

When Aldo goes to the Armory to get guns to defend Ape City from
Kolp's invading army, there's this little exchange (from Scene 283 in
the "BATTLE" screenplay):

MANDEMUS "Who are you...?"

ALDO "Aldo. GENERAL Aldo."

MANDEMUS "What do you want?"

ALDO "Guns."

MANDEMUS "What will you do with them...?"

ALDO "We shall do what we will."

MANDEMUS " 'Do what you will' is the Devil's law..."

ALDO (scornfully) "And who are you, Mandemus? God?"

MANDEMUS "I am the keeper of Caesar's conscious."
[Should be "conscience" by the way -- a misspelling on Dehn's part]

ALDO "And I am the keeper of Caesar's Army."

MANDEMUS "Under allegiance to Caesar. Where is HE?"

ALDO "Mandemus, as I speak, our city is under attack by Humans from
without and within. Who cares where Caesar is?"

MANDEMUS "I care. It is the Law that weapons may only be issued from
this Armory under direct orders from Caesar -- not under threats from
one of his thicker-headed subordinates for whom war means only
personal glory."

Even though the line isn't in the script, in the scene where
Cornelius chases after his pet squirrel, Ricky, only to discover
Aldo's campfire meeting, Aldo tells his gorillas, "Without us, there
would be no army!" (or words to that effect).

I almost get the impression that not only has Caesar relinquished his
own personal role as the Apes' (and Humans') MILITARY leader --
letting Aldo, as his subordinate, 'play' the role of General -- but
he has also seemingly decreed there to be no further need for a
military, since the Nuke War seems to have destroyed all potential
enemies.

He has the guns kept locked up in an overseen Armory. The total
population of Apes -- who ALL fought in the Revolution against
Breck's security forces -- has relinquished their roles in
the 'militia'... all except the GORILLAS.

It's as if ALDO (perhaps on behalf of all gorillas) was the only ape
around who had the wisdom to know that they WOULD need an Army to
protect Ape City. He seems to have INSISTED that there still be an
Army, as protection against any and all outside forces which MIGHT
come from over the horizon to re-enslave them.

And Caesar, perhaps, comes to a compromise and allows the gorillas to
keep playing at war -- though he himself forbids his own son from
playing with guns (even pretend-guns: STICKS!) and making a game of
war -- though he makes sure not to arm them with guns. But he does
this to humor Aldo (and like-minded gorillas), not out of any real
fear that they have 'enemies' lurking beyond their horizons.

It's only AFTER the recon mission to the Forbidden City -- and the
armed skirmish with the 'hostile' and 'mad' so-called 'mutant' humans
still living there -- that Caesar recognizes that the possibility of
an invasion is all-too-real, because he now KNOWS that there were
survivors of the War still dwelling there, and that they're armed.

And, his prejudiced opinion about their 'radiation-induced' madness
leads him to become thoroughly convinced that they just MIGHT come
out of their City and attack Ape City. In the screenplay, Aldo
asks: "Did the humans follow you... HERE?" and he replies, "We saw no
sign of it. But you are right. We have to plan against a time when
they MAY come out of the City... when they MAY find us." ... "Our
Gorilla Army will exercise constant vigilance through continuous
patrols. Civilians will assist in building defenses. And we should
discuss training a Militia in the theory, but not yet the practice,
of battle." [Scenes 153-156]

In other words, somewhat of a return to the situation in "CONQUEST",
when EVERY ape was a part of the fighting force that won freedom for
them all. It's no wonder that the 'GORILLAS CHEER' [Scene 156A] this
decision of Caesar's. It is a vindication of their on-going vigilance
against the 'enemy' they always knew MIGHT be out there.

Caesar had once been their military leader and, for years afterward,
in the aftermath of the Nuke War, he seems to have relinquished that
role (allowing Aldo to put on the airs of 'General' in an army that
Caesar thought would never be needed again...).

When you say that "Aldo was far from being well-thought-of by the
masses", I assume you're referring to the Chimps, Orangutans, and
Humans... but NOT the Gorillas, right? It isn't until the PUBLIC
accusation of Aldo's killing of Cornelius that the other gorillas
turn on him, pointing THEIR accusatory fingers at him (even though
some of those very gorillas are just as guilty by association, having
stood idly by as he hacked the branch with his sword). Until then,
his fellow gorillas seem to have thought VERY highly of him, indeed:
at least, those we see on-screen.

Patrick


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Anthony B. McElveen" <abmac@i...>
wrote:

> Having led the revolution, Caesar was as much a military leader as
> Aldo was, and Aldo was far from being well-thought-of by the masses.
>
>
> On Aug 13, 2005, at 9:10 p.m., patrickmichaeltilton wrote:
>
> > Some time back, I once mused that the storming of Breck's Command

Post by the apes-in-revolt was reminiscent of the situation faced by
Hitler when the Russians were hammering their way through Berlin, as
der Fuhrer lurked in his Fuhrer-bunker. Breck didn't 'off' himself,
as did Hitler, but the situation seemed to be somewhat similar.

> >
> > I recently thought that the tension between Caesar and Aldo in

BATTLE was reminiscent of the tensions between President Truman and
General MacArthur. Truman eventually had to remove MacArthur from his
position, since the General wanted to MAKE policy rather than merely
carry out the policy of another with whom he disagreed. The Serling-
scripted "SEVEN DAYS IN MAY" also hinged on this antagonistic
tension, pitting a well-thought-of military man against his civilian
Commander-In-Chief.

> >
> > Any thoughts...?
> >
> > Patrick

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "John" <DrZaiusDavis@a...> wrote:

> My bad. Oh, I was just wondering about the different opinions on the
> Planet of the Apes timelines. Feel free to comment. Except you
> Patrick. I hear you have too much free time. :)

-- Hmmm, he's obviously not the only one hey Bob?

Neil ;-)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:

> Hey, would you believe Neil is a "circular".

-- That's right, just keep passing me around the office. ;-)

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:

> FOSTER is getting so BORING!!! :)

-- Oh great, now I'm a boring office circular!

Neil

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In a message dated 8/17/2005 3:11:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time, nfoster@... writes:

> I should buy some Australian wine for a change from the cheap stuff.

-- But the Aussie wine is the cheap stuff! Well the stuff I drink is!
Cheap wine and a three day growth...

Neil ;-)

 

Texas saved the French long before the War.

Some of the best wine in the World is Texan wine.

You can read all about it here at How Texas Saved the French Wine Industry (Ungrateful Cheese Eating Surrender Monkey Flashback)

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , LordTZer0@A... wrote:

> That seems vaguely familiar.
> But they must have been mislabeled.
> Elaine can't find them either.
> Maybe they're under a different name.

-- Didn't we release a whole page of them with chapters 41 to 44 last
time? If so it would probably just be named chapter 44 (even though it
included more)

Neil

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In a message dated 8/17/2005 3:29:58 A.M. Central Daylight Time, nfoster@... writes:

-- Didn't we release a whole page of them with chapters 41 to 44 last
time? If so it would probably just be named chapter 44 (even though it
included more)

 

Oh!  Okay, I'll just rename it then.

 

 

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Yeah when you print hardcopy's

I definitely want one.  I lost everything

before 40 in the Great Compu-Crash of '05!

 

 

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:

> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@a...> wrote:
> > My bad. Oh, I was just wondering about the different opinions on

the Planet of the Apes timelines. Feel free to comment. Except you
Patrick. I hear you have too much free time. :)

>
> -- Hmmm, he's obviously not the only one hey Bob?
>
> Neil ;-)

*** Well, this ain't a comment on the CIRCULAR-vs-CHANGED FUTURE
timelines debate, but it is related to chronology.

In "BATTLE" (the screenplay) the death of Kolp is in Scene 387 & 388.
The next sequence (Scene 389-389C) depicts the return to the
Forbidden City of TWO MUTANT SOLDIERS who inform Alma and Mendez that
their side lost the battle (though they don't know what's happened to
Kolp). Perhaps Kolp was still alive when they headed back home (which
would make them Deserters, wouldn't it?...), knowing they'd lost.

It's in this scene where Alma goes to detonate the Alpha Omega bomb,
having received the equivalent of the signal Kolp said he'd relay to
her... and Mendez' convincing her NOT to detonate it, but
to "respect" it... even to "venerate" it.

Anyway, Scene 390 and following depicts the immediate aftermath of
the battle, as Caesar and Virgil go to free the Humans from the
Corral, and the confrontation with Aldo, etc.

It makes sense THEMATICALLY for the Alpha Omega bomb "almost-
detonated" scene to break up the Ape City scenes (Aldo's killing of
Kolp and his later confrontation with Caesar)... but CHRONOLOGICALLY
it doesn't make much sense.

The journey there-and-back from Ape City to Breck's/Kolp's City and
back to Ape City again was a "three day journey" (on foot). Granted,
by jeep & schoolbus (etc) the one-way trip from Kolp's City to Ape
City would take less than a single day, provided that they didn't
have that many mechanical breakdowns, and that their infantry (their
FOOT-soldiers: some of those 'Mutants' walked alongside the jeeps,
etc.) could exchange places with vehicle-riding soldiers. Walk an
hour... ride for an hour... walk an hour... ride another hour... etc
etc.

But those two 'mutant soldiers' who informed Alma and Mendez about
their defeat had to have gotten back home pretty damned quick for
that scene to have taken place between the killing of Kolp and the
showdown between Caesar and Aldo.

I think it makes sense -- chronologically speaking -- to put Scenes
389-389C AFTER the events depicted in Scenes 390 and following. In
other words, those two mutant war-survivors limped back home HOURS
after Caesar revenged his son's death by killing Aldo -- perhaps even
getting back to the Forbidden City the NEXT DAY. But, rather than
have the movie END with that scene, they chose to 'end' the story
with Caesar telling Mandemus that they must wait... sequeing into the
Lawgiver's wrapping-up scene: "We still wait, my children..."

Again, it makes THEMATIC sense for that Alpha Omega bomb scene to be
sandwiched in where it breaks up the two major scenes (Kolp's death
and Aldo's death), but it makes better CHRONOLOGICAL sense to post-
date it to the next day.

Atsa my opinion, anyway.

Patrick

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Hi Neil,Thanks very much for uploading the pics it certainly saved
me
a lot of pain and stress if I'd attempted it myself (it took me five
minutes to find the Q on the keyboard the other day)Also thanks to
everyone who had kind words for the paintings. Neil in your email
you
asked whether they were oils,yep they are but painted on paper with
a
tonal under painting before introducing any colour which starts off
as
transparant glazes. Some of the pics start with a warm coloured
ground
for example Urko starts as yellow and then cooler complementary
colour,in this case purples painted on top.If you want me to bore
you
with any more details just let me know :)
best Graham.











- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <nfoster@h...> wrote:

> Okay, first a big thank you to Graham Hill who has shared some of

his

> POTA paintings with us. I have just uploaded them to the 'Members'

Art

-- We all should be so boring!!! :)
Hi Michael, don't really have a preference for the TV show but
having got the series on DVD last year and watched all the episodes
for the first time since I was a kid might have influenced what I
painted over the last few months. Now if you want to talk about the
comics thats another matter!!
Best Graham.


- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:

> I totally agree and it really is nice to see new artists - FOSTER

is getting

> so BORING!!! :)
>
> Seriously though - it's wonderful to see all this talent.
>
> Graham - do you like to TV Show more?
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On

Behalf Of

> Melinda G Kettler
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 1:04 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Graham's Paintings
>
>
> I just wanted to say to Graham - your paintings are so great!

Love the

> detail and color and style. Very good. You are quite talented.

Thank you

> for sharing these.
>
> Melinda
>
>

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of hill19652000
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 7:12 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Graham's paintings

Hi Neil,Thanks very much for uploading the pics it certainly saved
me
a lot of pain and stress if I'd attempted it myself (it took me five
minutes to find the Q on the keyboard the other day)Also thanks to
everyone who had kind words for the paintings. Neil in your email
you
asked whether they were oils,yep they are but painted on paper with
a
tonal under painting before introducing any colour which starts off
as
transparant glazes. Some of the pics start with a warm coloured
ground
for example Urko starts as yellow and then cooler complementary
colour,in this case purples painted on top.If you want me to bore
you
with any more details just let me know :)
best Graham. 











- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
> Okay, first a big thank you to Graham Hill who has shared some of
his
> POTA paintings with us. I have just uploaded them to the 'Members'
Art

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of hill19652000
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 7:26 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Graham's Paintings

-- We all should be so boring!!! :)
   Hi Michael, don't really have a preference for the TV show but
having got the series on DVD last year and watched all the episodes
for the first time since I was a kid might have influenced what I
painted over the last few months. Now if you want to talk about the
comics thats another matter!!
    Best Graham.


- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:
> I totally agree and it really is nice to see new artists - FOSTER
is getting
> so BORING!!!  :)
> 
> Seriously though - it's wonderful to see all this talent.
> 
> Graham - do you like to TV Show more?
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of
> Melinda G Kettler
> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 1:04 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Graham's Paintings
>
>
> I just wanted to say to Graham - your paintings are so great! 
Love the
> detail and color and style.  Very good.  You are quite talented. 
Thank you
> for sharing these.
> 
> Melinda

 

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "hill19652000" <shop@a...> wrote:

> Hi Neil,Thanks very much for uploading the pics it certainly saved

me a lot of pain and stress if I'd attempted it myself (it took me
five minutes to find the Q on the keyboard the other day)Also thanks
to everyone who had kind words for the paintings.

-- Not a problem Graham. Just let me know when you have another batch
of paintings ready to show us and I'll be happy to help out again (Now
the gang have seen some they'll be wanting more!) ;-)

> you asked whether they were oils,yep they are but painted on paper

with...

>If you want me to bore you with any more details just let me know :)

-- Far from boring for me (besides Whitty says I'm the boring one!)
I'm always interested in exploring different painting techniques and
oils are one medium I have never really tried properly, I think it has
to do with my impatience with waiting for them to dry.

Neil

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I noticed there is a new strip available. May I see it? I was a little behind on my e-mails.

 

Thanks!

 

Jim

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Greg Plonowski
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 12:33 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Song of the Day: One Comic

It seemed there was some sort of holdup in the nominating of people to receive the next strips. If the last few people who got the strip aren't going to nominate anyone, can we nominate ourselves?

 

Greg

PhoenixCa7@... wrote:

I noticed there is a new strip available. May I see it? I was a little behind on my e-mails.

 

Thanks!

 

Jim

Attachments :

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In a message dated 8/18/2005 8:10:57 A.M. Central Daylight Time, urko3085@... writes:

it does sort of highlight the problem of just getting to read a strip or two every few weeks.

 

Yeah, I always think I missed the last one.

Though it's usually not the case.  I just don't

remember it.  And it is a bit confusing labeling

each frame as a chapter.  But it is, as always

a great installment.  And I'm thinking about

printing them out again.  Whenever I have a

few saved up I like to read it like an old comic.

But as long as the quality is there, I'm happy

having Neil work at his own pace.  It is amazing!

 

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I was discussing the printing of WITHIN with Neil today.

 

He thinks landscape, 2 strips per page (like the Garfield compilations).

 

I still think A4, 4 strips per page.

 

What REALLY matters is what out printer dude thinks.

 

Hey printer dude, stop bouncing on the trampoline and give us some advice……

 

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of LordTZer0@...
Sent: Thursday, 18 August 2005 11:50 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Song of the Day: One Comic

 

In a message dated 8/18/2005 8:10:57 A.M. Central Daylight Time, urko3085@... writes:

it does sort of highlight the problem of just getting to read a strip or two every few weeks.

 

Yeah, I always think I missed the last one.

Though it's usually not the case.  I just don't

remember it.  And it is a bit confusing labeling

each frame as a chapter.  But it is, as always

a great installment.  And I'm thinking about

printing them out again.  Whenever I have a

few saved up I like to read it like an old comic.

But as long as the quality is there, I'm happy

having Neil work at his own pace.  It is amazing!

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In a message dated 8/18/2005 8:58:53 A.M. Central Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:

He thinks landscape, 2 strips per page (like the Garfield compilations).  

I still think A4, 4 strips per page.

 

You should mix it up.

 

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In a message dated 8/18/2005 12:05:32 P.M. Central Daylight Time, brindlepit2002@... writes:

also, i noticed that alan pronounced the general's name "oorko"

 

Yeah, I heard Galen pronounce it that way in the last one as well.

 

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In a message dated 8/18/2005 1:26:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:

Huh?

 

Well many of the comics I used to read didn't have a set

number of strips per page.  It might be 4 per page most

of the time.  But if there was something detailed they

wanted to emphasize, they would have just two bigger

panels, or even one big one that took up the entire page.

Has no one else seen comic books like that?  Maybe

they aren't like that any more, since the graphic novel.

 

 

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:

>The tails on Zaius' word baloons lead up. Where is Zaius speaking

from? Did he get on a horse?

-- Yes Greg he is indeed on a horse. He had been on it since chapter
44 in fact. You just thought you might have a chance of getting one of
those old Marvel type No Prizes didn't you? ;-)

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:

>The next question is how many strips are we going to wind up with?

-- One thing we did forget about when Michael and I were discussing
this was that I will also have to come up with a cover for any
collected edition of the strips. I haven't done a landscape cover
before but that shouldn't present any problems if we did end up going
with that format. Of course I would have to up my fee. ;-)

Neil

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:

> A short issue this week. Only 9 pages of comics plus the cover.

(Sorry, letter column fans. Your welcome, dial-up connectors.)

-- Thanks on behalf of all us dial-uppers!

Neil

Comics are still very much like that. Most have no real set format.
You could have two pages with around 4 panels on each and then turn
the page to find a full single page frame of something exciting or
crucial to the story.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 8/18/2005 1:26:39 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> whitty@c... writes:
>
> Huh?
>
>
>
> Well many of the comics I used to read didn't have a set
> number of strips per page. It might be 4 per page most
> of the time. But if there was something detailed they
> wanted to emphasize, they would have just two bigger
> panels, or even one big one that took up the entire page.
> Has no one else seen comic books like that? Maybe
> they aren't like that any more, since the graphic novel.