--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "John" <DrZaiusDavis@a...> wrote:

> Comics are still very much like that. Most have no real set format.

-- Well when I first started doing the Within strip I deliberately
wanted to get away from the usual comic page format so I did them in
strips much like they would be if they were run in a newspaper. In
fact I think I used the same dimensions as Calvin & Hobbes strips.
Does anyone have any collected editions of those? If so what format
are those printed up in?

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of PhoenixCa7@...
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 8:20 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Latest WITHIN strips

The Calvin & Hobbes were 9"x8 1/2" and had 3 daily strips per page and the Sunday was on 1 page. The treasuries were a little bigger but still had the same strip count per page. There was only one C&H collection that differed from this (that I know of) and it had 2 daily strips per page and the Sunday still on 1 page. I think this was when Watterson changed the format of his Sunday strip. It was essentially in landscape format.

 

Jim

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of PhoenixCa7@...
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 8:25 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Latest WITHIN strips

I just read the lastest strips and they were outstanding! I could hear the mutant mind control as I read the first strip. And the look on Ursus' face was priceless. I can't wait to see where this goes from here. Are we still nominating people to get it next? Is there anyone that hasn't seen it yet?

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> Have you been getting you dose of the comics Neil and I have been

doing?

>
> Michael

Hi Michael I have seen some of the comics you and Neil been
doing!! Although I seem to have lost track how many there are?
Certainly all this talk of hard copies has got me intrigued , how do
I get copies and how much? Now you really don't want me to start to
talk about the Marvel comics because well I just wo'nt sut up !!
I was nine or ten when I first picked up the mags. The first two
issues with Mike Ploog art on Terror Still looks fantastic, that
wonderful wash work. As a kid I always thought it odd when
people ,on the letters page, thought that his apes looked strange I
think It was a fantastic interpretation. I've allways maintained
that because, for Marvels editorial dept, the title was abit off the
beaten track (How many editors did it have ?? ) it seemed to attract
artist who responed to the freedom of not being constantly second
quessed and just liked to be left alone, never happen with a movie
comic these days. The best example of this was Tom Sutton ,his
Future History Chronicles is my all time fave !! I seem to remember
reading that he claimed he'd never seen the movies and you know it
didn't matter the work just stands up.He seemed to make a carreer of
trying to find places where he could just work with out
interference, I've just got a stack of Charlton comics most with
Sutton art in, fantastic stuff , he was paid something like $20 a
page which even in the 70's wasn't much but they just accepted the
work with out interference so he was quite happy to do
them.Certainly on apes Marvel, who would have paid more, got more
out off Sutton than he got out of them.
See told you I'd ramble on I'm off to read some of those
Charltons :)
Best Graham.

>
>
>
>

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May i see the last 2 chapters of Within. I been kinda busy as of late.

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:

> T sent them to the whole group so that should be everyone - if

anyone can't read them like this let us know.

-- But what about us poor suckers who don't get individual emails,
pictures don't come through with the daily digest or on the group.
What about me I... oh, right, of course I have a copy already. ;-)

Neil

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "hill19652000" <shop@a...> wrote:

> Now you really don't want me to start to talk about the Marvel

comics because well I just wo'nt sut up !!

-- Don't worry about bringing up the comics Graham, we always
appreciate talking about them. We've had some very lively debates on
the comics in the past to say the least! (Did someone say brains in
jars?) ;-)

> I was nine or ten when I first picked up the mags. The first two

issues with Mike Ploog art on Terror Still looks fantastic, that
wonderful wash work.

-- Ploog is one of my art heroes. One of the things that really
cemented my love of apes way back in those days was those very issues.
I was so blown away with his Apes art I just wanted to draw all the
time. I must have worn those comics out just by the amount of time I
spent looking at them!

>it seemed to attract artist who responed to the freedom of not being

constantly second quessed and just liked to be left alone,

-- That it did. I also loved the work that Rico Rival did on the
comics as well. Not your classic looking apes but I loved his artwork
and like they mentioned in response to complaints about the look of
some of the artists' apes, they let them interpret them as they saw
fit. How true that it couldn't happen these days.

Neil

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In a message dated 8/18/2005 5:41:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

T sent them to the whole group so that should be everyone - if anyone can't read them like this let us know.

 

 

Yeah, I keep forgetting to send it to the individual

instead of hitting reply.  I should have remembered

that from the last time.  But it's has been a while.

 

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of LordTZer0@...
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:57 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Latest WITHIN strips

In a message dated 8/18/2005 5:41:10 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

T sent them to the whole group so that should be everyone - if anyone can't read them like this let us know.

 

 

Yeah, I keep forgetting to send it to the individual

instead of hitting reply.  I should have remembered

that from the last time.  But it's has been a while.

 

 

WE NEED ZOMBIES!!!!! ;D

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "hill19652000" <shop@a...> wrote:
> > Now you really don't want me to start to talk about the Marvel
> comics because well I just wo'nt sut up !!
>
> -- Don't worry about bringing up the comics Graham, we always
> appreciate talking about them. We've had some very lively debates
on
> the comics in the past to say the least! (Did someone say brains in
> jars?) ;-)
>
> > I was nine or ten when I first picked up the mags. The first two
> issues with Mike Ploog art on Terror Still looks fantastic, that
> wonderful wash work.
>
> -- Ploog is one of my art heroes. One of the things that really
> cemented my love of apes way back in those days was those very
issues.
> I was so blown away with his Apes art I just wanted to draw all the
> time. I must have worn those comics out just by the amount of time
I
> spent looking at them!
>
> >it seemed to attract artist who responed to the freedom of not
being
> constantly second quessed and just liked to be left alone,
>
> -- That it did. I also loved the work that Rico Rival did on the
> comics as well. Not your classic looking apes but I loved his
artwork
> and like they mentioned in response to complaints about the look of
> some of the artists' apes, they let them interpret them as they saw
> fit. How true that it couldn't happen these days.
>
> Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski wrote:
>The tails on Zaius' word baloons lead up. Where is Zaius speaking
from? Did he get on a horse?

-- Yes Greg he is indeed on a horse. He had been on it since chapter
44 in fact. You just thought you might have a chance of getting one of
those old Marvel type No Prizes didn't you? ;-)

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Greg Plonowski
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 10:30 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Song of the Day: One Comic

Okay, I'm home from work now and located my copy of strips 41 through 44 and I can see that Zaius was on a horse in strips 43 and 44. I'd just forgotten.

 

Looking at strip 44, the group is on a slope, with Zaius and his horse slightly down-slope from the rest of the characters. In fact, it looks like Zaius' head is just about even with Ursus' head because of the slope of the ground.

 

So maybe he did switch to a trampoline by strip 46!

 

Greg

Neil <nfoster@...> wrote:

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski wrote:
>The tails on Zaius' word baloons lead up. Where is Zaius speaking
from? Did he get on a horse?

-- Yes Greg he is indeed on a horse. He had been on it since chapter
44 in fact. You just thought you might have a chance of getting one of
those old Marvel type No Prizes didn't you? ;-)

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:

> Looking at strip 44, the group is on a slope, with Zaius and his

horse slightly down-slope from the rest of the characters. In fact, it
looks like Zaius' head is just about even with Ursus' head because of
the slope of the ground.
So maybe he did switch to a trampoline by strip 46!

-- Or maybe he just trotted up the slope a bit?
No actually Ursus and Milo are standing on a part of the ground that
is over one of the mutant tunnels and the ground suddenly subsided
slightly. No really they are just standing on a patch of quicksand, no
wait a minute, they hero-worship Dr. Zaius so much that they got down
on their knees as he spoke, no wait a minute...

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:

> Yes - that was in the deleted scene

-- Shhhh! Whatever you do don't mention the deleted trampoline scene!

Neil ;-)

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Melinda G Kettler
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 2:08 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Latest WITHIN strips

I can't see them because I'm on "digest" for the message delivery from the group, and therefore do not see any attachments.  Somebody will have to send them to me directly.  Thanks!

 

Melinda

 

Message: 23       
   Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 08:40:49 +1000
   From: "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...>
Subject: RE: Re: Latest WITHIN strips

T sent them to the whole group so that should be everyone - if anyone can't
read them like this let us know.
 
Michael

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of hill19652000
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:02 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Graham's Paintings

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> Have you been getting you dose of the comics Neil and I have been
doing?
> 
> Michael

Hi Michael I  have seen some of  the comics you and Neil been
doing!! Although I seem to have lost track how many there are?

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of hill19652000
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:02 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Graham's Paintings

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> Have you been getting you dose of the comics Neil and I have been
doing?
> 
> Michael

Now you really don't want me to start to talk about the Marvel comics because well I just wo'nt sut up !!

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of taebokitti@...
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 2:55 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Latest WITHIN strips

I just sent the lastest chapters to Melinda. Elaine

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of hill19652000
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:02 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Graham's Paintings

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> Have you been getting you dose of the comics Neil and I have been
doing?
> 
> Michael

Hi Michael I  have seen some of  the comics you and Neil been
doing!! Although I seem to have lost track how many there are?
Certainly all this talk of hard copies has got me intrigued , how do
I get copies and how much?

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of PofTAfan@...
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:02 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Latest WITHIN strips

May i see the last 2 chapters of Within. I been kinda busy as of late.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of hill19652000
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:02 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Graham's Paintings

I was nine or ten when I first picked up the mags. The first two
issues with Mike Ploog art on Terror Still looks fantastic, that
wonderful wash work. As a kid I always thought it odd when
people ,on the letters page, thought that his apes looked strange I
think It was a fantastic interpretation. I've allways maintained
that because, for Marvels editorial dept, the title was abit off the
beaten track (How many editors did it have ?? ) it seemed to attract
artist who responed to the freedom of not being constantly second
quessed and just liked to be left alone, never happen with a movie
comic these days. The best example of this was Tom Sutton ,his 
Future History Chronicles is my all time fave !! I seem to remember
reading that he claimed he'd never seen the movies and you know it
didn't matter the work just stands up.He seemed to make a carreer of
trying to find places where he could just work with out
interference, I've just got a stack of Charlton comics most with
Sutton art in, fantastic stuff , he was paid something like $20 a
page which even in the 70's wasn't much but they just accepted the
work with out interference so he was quite happy to do
them.Certainly on apes Marvel, who would have paid more, got more
out off Sutton than he got out of them.
See told you I'd ramble on I'm off to read some of those
Charltons :)
Best Graham.  

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 1:09 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Graham's Paintings

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" < DrZaiusDavis@a...> wrote:
> WE NEED ZOMBIES!!!!! ;D

 

-- Okay then:

 

 

 

Neil .'-)

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:29 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Graham's Paintings

>it seemed to attract artist who responed to the freedom of not being
constantly second quessed and just liked to be left alone,

-- That it did. I also loved the work that Rico Rival did on the
comics as well. Not your classic looking apes but I loved his artwork
and like they mentioned in response to complaints about the look of
some of the artists' apes, they let them interpret them as they saw
fit. How true that it couldn't happen these days.

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 12:58 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Song of the Day: One Comic

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
> Looking at strip 44, the group is on a slope, with Zaius and his
horse slightly down-slope from the rest of the characters. In fact, it
looks like Zaius' head is just about even with Ursus' head because of
the slope of the ground.
So maybe he did switch to a trampoline by strip 46!

-- Or maybe he just trotted up the slope a bit?
No actually Ursus and Milo are standing on a part of the ground that
is over one of the mutant tunnels and the ground suddenly subsided
slightly. No really they are just standing on a patch of quicksand, no
wait a minute, they hero-worship Dr. Zaius so much that they got down
on their knees as he spoke, no wait a minute...

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 1:41 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com; pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Heston's Last Days

Check out attached article...

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Genius . . . Pure Genius!!!

 

 

In a message dated 8/18/2005 10:12:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time, nfoster@... writes:

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" < DrZaiusDavis@a...> wrote:
> WE NEED ZOMBIES!!!!! ;D

 

-- Okay then:

 

 

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Seems like enough for a Graphic Novel, eh Neil?

 

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I'm new to this group but have heard nothing but good things about it.
I am told it is THE Planet of the Ape forum. I have been a fan of the
franchise since I saw the Beneath the Planet of the Apes film in
theaters when I was a kid. I have many many of the figures and
magazines as well as the film and TV DVD series. I look forward to
catching up on past posts and becoming part of the current ones.

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Hi, I've been a Planet of the Apes fan since seeing Beneath in the theater when I was a kid. I have a bunch of figures, comics, books and magazines as well as the film and TV series DVD sets. I look forward to catching up on past post as well as the current ones.

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Hello Graham...The paintings are TERRIFIC! A great
unique style...Do you have more?

Tim



--- hill19652000 <shop@...> wrote:

> Hi Neil,Thanks very much for uploading the pics it
> certainly saved
> me
> a lot of pain and stress if I'd attempted it myself
> (it took me five
> minutes to find the Q on the keyboard the other
> day)Also thanks to
> everyone who had kind words for the paintings. Neil
> in your email
> you
> asked whether they were oils,yep they are but
> painted on paper with
> a
> tonal under painting before introducing any colour
> which starts off
> as
> transparant glazes. Some of the pics start with a
> warm coloured
> ground
> for example Urko starts as yellow and then cooler
> complementary
> colour,in this case purples painted on top.If you
> want me to bore
> you
> with any more details just let me know :)
> best Graham.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> - In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster"
> <nfoster@h...> wrote:
> > Okay, first a big thank you to Graham Hill who has
> shared some of
> his
> > POTA paintings with us. I have just uploaded them
> to the 'Members'
> Art
>
>
>
>

I noticed that there was a form letter to send to Sideshow to ask
them
to make the TV series characters, but how many folks here collect the
Sideshow Apes? And how many would commit to buying the TV Series
versions? Now that they have cancelled the line it may be a moot
point
but if I can get a firm number of interested parties I would have no
problem speaking to any one of several people at Sideshow to see what
could possibly be done in the way of....maybe... a group exclusive or
something of the sort. I was most disheartened to hear that so many
of
the characters that seemed to be on everyone's lists would not see
the
light of day. Does anyone here know, or is there even a way to know,
how many people used that form letter and sent it to them? I'll try
and
keep an eye here for responses or, feel free to email me if you would
be interested. Just make sure to reference the group in the subject
line so it doesn't [hopefully] get spam blocked.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "ironman1188" <ironman1188@a...> wrote:

> I'm new to this group but have heard nothing but good things about

it.

> I am told it is THE Planet of the Ape forum. I have been a fan of

the

> franchise since I saw the Beneath the Planet of the Apes film in
> theaters when I was a kid. I have many many of the figures and
> magazines as well as the film and TV DVD series. I look forward to
> catching up on past posts and becoming part of the current ones.

Hi Steve and welcome to the group. Yes this does seem to be the group
to belong to if you want the latest breaking news on anything POTA.
We're a pretty friendly mob and we don't bite. (well not much);-)

Neil

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
group.

File : /Members' Art gallery/gorilla trooper.jpg
Uploaded by : munkeyman63au <nfoster@...>
Description : Another painting by Graham

You can access this file at the URL:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Members%27%20Art%20gallery/gorilla%20trooper.jpg

To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

Regards,

munkeyman63au <nfoster@...>

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
group.

File : /Members' Art gallery/gorilla trooper (underpainting).jpg
Uploaded by : munkeyman63au <nfoster@...>
Description : First stage of Graham's gorilla trooper painting

You can access this file at the URL:
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To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/files

Regards,

munkeyman63au <nfoster@...>

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Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the
PotaDG group:

Did you send a copy of the form letter to Sideshow?

o I did send the form letter
o I sent a letter of my own


To vote, please visit the following web page:
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Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups
web site listed above.

Thanks!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "ironman1188" <ironman1188@a...>
wrote:

> I noticed that there was a form letter to send to Sideshow to ask

them to make the TV series characters, but how many folks here
collect the Sideshow Apes? And how many would commit to buying the
TV Series versions? Now that they have cancelled the line it may be
a moot point but if I can get a firm number of interested parties I
would have no problem speaking to any one of several people at
Sideshow to see what could possibly be done in the way
of....maybe... a group exclusive or something of the sort. I was
most disheartened to hear that so many of the characters that seemed
to be on everyone's lists would not see the
light of day. Does anyone here know, or is there even a way to know,
how many people used that form letter and sent it to them?

-- Well I can't be too much help I'm afraid. I haven't bothered to
collect them as I just can't afford to and won't be buying any
anytime in the future.
The only way to know how many people have actually sent the letter
off to Sideshow would be if those who did responded and said if they
have.

I have started a poll on the subject and the easiest way would be if
people use that.

Neil

I get emails from SCREEN ARCHIVES, which sells remastered soundtracks
(I'm pretty sure they're affiliated with FilmScore Monthly, who gave
us the marvelous soundtracks for BENEATH and CONQUEST+BATTLE).

Anyway, they have 100 copies left of a limited run [1500 copies made]
Special DVD Edition of "FILM MUSIC MASTERS: JERRY GOLDSMITH".

Here's the link: http://www.screenarchives.com/email.cfm?eid=2

Below is text from the link, copied-and-pasted.

In "BENEATH", in the scene where Zira and Cornelius get back home
from the Citizens' Council meeting, Cornelius has a pipe in his hand.
In the Adobe Reader "BENEATH" screenplay -- check out Hunter
Goatley's site for a downloadable copy of this -- this is how scene
50 reads:

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I've been collecting them.....and when my Ursus came
in a crushed box...I wrote and a very nice fella named
Jon sent me a new box ! I also told him that I loved
the line and asked if it was to keep going but he
didn't answer that part!

Tim

--- ironman1188 <ironman1188@...> wrote:

> I noticed that there was a form letter to send to
> Sideshow to ask
> them
> to make the TV series characters, but how many folks
> here collect the
> Sideshow Apes? And how many would commit to buying
> the TV Series
> versions? Now that they have cancelled the line it
> may be a moot
> point
> but if I can get a firm number of interested parties
> I would have no
> problem speaking to any one of several people at
> Sideshow to see what
> could possibly be done in the way of....maybe... a
> group exclusive or
> something of the sort. I was most disheartened to
> hear that so many
> of
> the characters that seemed to be on everyone's lists
> would not see
> the
> light of day. Does anyone here know, or is there
> even a way to know,
> how many people used that form letter and sent it to
> them? I'll try
> and
> keep an eye here for responses or, feel free to
> email me if you would
> be interested. Just make sure to reference the group
> in the subject
> line so it doesn't [hopefully] get spam blocked.
>
>
>
>

Michael ...I just put 20 bucks in your Paypal account
for Beware the Beast!!! I definaetly think you and
Neil should proceed with printing Within!

Tim

--- "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...>
wrote:

> Hi Graham.
>
> A lot of people have asked recently so here we go:
>
> There IS a hard copy of Beware the Beast. This is 2
> x 22 page booklets.
>
> It contains extra pages (and some pencils by Neil
> that are extremely
> interesting) that were not in the internet
> publication. Also includes
> original covers.
>
> For $20 US I will send these to you via Express Post
> (which is about $15 of
> that $20).
>
> We had these printed for publishers and interested
> parties and because they
> cost about $5 to make it is not that we are SELLING
> them, but PROVIDING them
> at cost to fans who want to see them.
>
> Best way to get these is to place $20 in my PAYPAL
> account: whitty
> @...
>
> Since I pre-bought the envelopes and paid for the
> comics to be printed (as
> per the people who SAID they wanted one) it really
> would be critical to any
> further printings that I clear these out.
>
> Beware the Beast is now with a publisher who wants
> an extensive rewrite so
> when these are published and available on newsstands
> they will be different
> again.
>
> I am also waiting to hear back from Ty Templeton
> about whether he might
> publish it too - and he has stated this will depent
> largely on sales of his
> 6 part series "Revolution on the POTA".
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
> hill19652000
> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:02 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Graham's Paintings
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
> <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> > Have you been getting you dose of the comics Neil
> and I have been
> doing?
> >
> > Michael
>
> Hi Michael I have seen some of the comics you and
> Neil been
> doing!! Although I seem to have lost track how many
> there are?
> Certainly all this talk of hard copies has got me
> intrigued , how do
> I get copies and how much?
>
>
>
>

.html Awesome paintings Graham. You may be a lurker but these paintings sure do make up for your silence! Thanks for sharing them and thanks to Neil for helping out in making them available to all.

Dario

Neil T Foster wrote:

Okay, first a big thank you to Graham Hill who has shared some of his POTA paintings with us. I have just uploaded them to the 'Members' Art Gallery' folder in the Files section:

http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Members%27%20Art%20gallery/

 

Here are the links to the individual paintings including the art for the cover of the latest issue of Simian Scrolls (#11)

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Members%27%20Art%20gallery/apes%20919.jpg

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Members%27%20Art%20gallery/apes%20920.jpg

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Members%27%20Art%20gallery/burke%20one.jpg

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Members%27%20Art%20gallery/thisoneb.jpg

Once again, a big thanks to Graham for sharing these with us and everyone should go and check these out, Graham has a great and individual style to his paintings and it's always great to see new POTA art!

 

Neil

 

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> -- Well I can't be too much help I'm afraid. I haven't bothered to
> collect them as I just can't afford to and won't be buying any
> anytime in the future.
> The only way to know how many people have actually sent the letter
> off to Sideshow would be if those who did responded and said if they
> have.
>
> I have started a poll on the subject and the easiest way would be if
> people use that.
>
> Neil

Thanks Neil. Hopefully there will be enough of a response to give me
the proper ammuntion to approach Sideshow with a plausible argument for
their continuance.

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:

> I think, again, the actual problem was that the script writer did

not know Cornelius was previously a smoker.

-- Or maybe far in the future there are only very mild strains of the
tobacco plant left and he wasn't used to the much stronger tobacco of
the past?

But cigars can make you cough your guts up if you're not used to them.
I remember when I was about 15 or so and I had just started smoking
cigarettes (on a non regular basis at the time) and one of my mates
got me a cigar from somewhere and I smoked the whole thing, then
turned a nasty shade of green and puked and puked. I have never tried
another cigar since then (though I did take up that nasty habit of
smoking cigarettes full time).

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "patrickmichaeltilton"
<patrickmichaeltilton@y...> wrote:

>Doesn't Zaius have a pipe in the post-Trial scene in "PLANET"

(the scene where he threatens Taylor with emasculation and
lobotomization if he doesn't 'confess' as to the location of his
alleged 'tribe')? How widespread is tobacco-use in Apedom? Julius
smokes cigars... does that make it a Class-based type of thing?

-- And don't forget that Ursus also smoked a pipe. Well according to
the warped minds of those idiots who put together Within the POTA he
does. Check out chapters 13 to 16.

Neil

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BUT…I think, again, the actual problem was that the script writer did not know Cornelius was previously a smoker.

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Neil T Foster" <nfoster@h...> wrote:

> --I have just uploaded a couple more paintings that Graham
>
> And once again wonderful artwork, thanks Graham.
>
> Neil

Thanks once again Neil, Glad you like them If you do have any
questions about how they,re done just ask though I'm a bit snowed
under with stuff at the moment so I might not reply straight away.
(visit by partners parents next weekend means yearly clean of house
plus normal 60 odd hour hour working week for the self-employed :) )

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> As for the covers....well, Graham, Neil and I have been talking,

and we are

> wondering if maybe - Neil, YOU ask him (you artists seem to

communicate

> better!).
>
> Michael
>

This is all very cryptic Michael it's got nothing to do with zombie
apes I hope :)

>
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Dario <darios@n...> wrote:

> Awesome paintings Graham. You may be a lurker but these paintings

sure

> do make up for your silence! Thanks for sharing them and thanks to

Neil

> for helping out in making them available to all.
>
> Dario

Thanks Dario, Kind words are much appreciated, the silence is down
to
my innate bad typing skills ( "who's moved the z " )plus lack of
hours
in the day :)
best Graham.

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I was going to say ...was it my imagination or didn't
Cornelius have a pipe in Beneath?! And here is the
proof!

TIm

--- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:

> Hey Neil
>
> Here's a nice photo of Cornelius with a pipe and a
> few cool accessories!
>
>
>

http://cgi.ebay.com/1970-Beneath-Planet-of-the-Apes-Orig-Publicity-Photo

>

_W0QQitemZ7538760976QQcategoryZ18827QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

>
> Michael
>
>
>

I do love Graham's painting's but I do like it when a comics cover is
relative to the material inside, and your right, it seldom does. The
artist who does the cover is seldom the artist who illustrates the
issue.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Well actually Neil and I were both thinking you would be perfect
for a
> cover..but like I said, I'll let Neil discuss that with you.
>
> As for the rest of you - what do you think makes a good comic cover?
>
> And SHOULD it reflect the content (coz it RARELY does!).
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of hill19652000
> Sent: Sunday, 21 August 2005 6:06 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Apes ain't apes.....
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
> <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> > As for the covers....well, Graham, Neil and I have been talking,
> and we are
> > wondering if maybe - Neil, YOU ask him (you artists seem to
> communicate
> > better!).
> >
> > Michael
> >
>
>
> This is all very cryptic Michael it's got nothing to do with zombie
> apes I hope :)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --

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Thanks Tim, I'll send it out tonight.

 

Jim and Elaine, yours are not far away….please let me know (actually, let the group know!) when you get 'em!

Michael

 

I was pleasantly surprised last night when I arrived home and found Beware The Beast in my mailbox. Thanks, Michael and I love having the hard copy in my hands. Amazing that

it arrived so soon from Aussie land yet when I order a textbook from within the US it  takes forever to get to me. I HIGHLY recommend that those of you that do not have this

copy, order it.  Elaine

 

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