Neil and Michael, the story line and art work is better all the time!!
I agree with some of the other post; I feel like I am watching
additional footage to Beneath the Planet of the Apes!! Very well done.
I have said it before and want to go on record as saying it again that
I am enjoying these comics BETTER than the film that they even call a
remake. Then again, I didn't like that film at all.
These strips have all the feel of the origianl Planet of the Apes
movies. I can't wait until the next installment.
I also want to send a very much deserved THANK YOU to Elaine for
cathing me up on the strips when every one else in the group passed
over my plea for the newest installments.

Hey all
Just received an email from Sideshow that both Mutants will be
arriving at Sideshow an Shipping soon.
Also, I spoke with IRONMAN and he is still needing people off the
groups to get with him with their names and the POTA figure that they
would most like Sideshow to release. He said that he isn't getting a
very good response from the group so lets all get behind him and back
up this letter that he is composing for Sideshow and lets try to save
the Ape line

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I'm sure he'll forgive me if you all post comments on the strips.

I can't really add too much other than just agreeing with all that's been said already... Keep it up...

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I have to agree with you that they art work does make the Apes look
too skinny in some of the frames but I am also pleased that the
producers are making an Apes comic that holds to the origianl Planet
of the Apes concept and not the Burton film buy the same name. I am
also impressed that they not only are sharing some of the previews
with the group but are interested in our reviews and comments.
John


In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "hill19652000" <shop@a...> wrote:

> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote
>
> > Finally the B&W page featuring Zaius(?) etc (bw gab5). I really

do

> not
> > like at all. All the figures have a really serious weight issue!
> They
> > are all much too skinny and just look wrong. This is by far the
> worst
> > of the art we have seen so far and I only hope the colour can in
> some
> > way improve it.
> > The painted covers we have seen so far are fantastic.
> >
> > Neil
>
>
> Didn't mind this page as much after I'd looked a few times ,I

took

> the skinny look as a stylistic quirk more than any thing but what

I

> was pleased with is that they do seem to work sequentially (I

think

> I may have spelt that wrong.)My memories of the Dark Horse comics
> was some of them simply didn't.
> Best Graham.

I would like to be nominated.

Anthony in Louisiana

On Sep 6, 2005, at 10:25 p.m., DONNA SPIRES wrote:

> I was not nominated.
>
> Donna
>
>
>
>> From: Greg Plonowski <urko3085@...>
>> Reply-To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
>> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Latest Within strips
>> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 19:24:46 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>> Sure, but I think that everyone who asked to be nominated has been
>> covered.
>> Anyone out there who wasn't nominated that I can forward these to?
>>
>> Greg
>>
>> "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...> wrote:
>> Thanks Greg.
>>
>> Who is next?
>>
>> Could you forward to someone PLEASE?!?!?

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In a message dated 9/8/2005 2:13:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time, abmac@... writes:

I would like to be nominated.

Anthony in Louisiana

 

Done

 

 

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It sure is tough only being able

to read a couple panels at a time.

But the quality is so good it's worth it!

Keep up the good work.  I'm going to

print out what I have so far for a cracking

good read.  It sure takes me back to the

old one, except these are even better!

 

 

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We need an official ape inspired song for this group. While
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songs. So after putting out the question to the groups to
provide nominations, here is the poll. Which of these songs
would YOU like to be the official POTADG song?

o "Too Much Monkey Business" (Chuck Berry)
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Thanks!

This is the most intelligent, well spoken post I've read hear in a
long time. Some similar sentiments have been stated before, but I've
think you've hit the nail on the head with respect to why we will
probably never see another 'true' classic POTA movie. I've often had a
gut feeling that even if someone tried, it just could not be done, no
matter how much we would like to see it. How can a film producer put
out a film as close to the original 70's films and expect anything but
a mixed reaction from audiences today? Despite the many fans (and yes
I believe that there are a lot of 'silent fans' not as active as us),
the average theater going public would either shum it altogether, or
worse, it would be an outright bomb. We have to face the fact that we
are not representative of the majority of movie going audiences. The
demographics are undeniable and teens and under 30's crowds dictate
the cinema offerings. Ask them what they think about 'classic' apes,
and many will not know what you are talking about. Some will know, but
still not know any details about those movies, other than the main
plot of POTA and even those they are more likely to have learned from
seeing the many cultural references (ie "The Simpsons", etc) than by
actually having watched the movies. As time goes by, the situation
worsens and the likelyhood of a revival slips away. The salvation that
POTA2001 promised turned to poison for the series we loved since it
not only squandered a bonafide opportunity to reinject life into the
series, but actually had the opposite effect in that it rebranded
the "Planet of the Apes" franchise to that new and crucial audience
which will forever think of Marky Marc and a senseless eye candy
movie.

Mind you, I'm calling for the death knell of the franchise. It's just
that I no longer expect to see any new POTA movie being made anytime
soon. Maybe after enough time has passed to allow many to really put
2001 out of our minds. Maybe if Fox gets really desparate that they
have no choice other than to try to revive it (I don't see them trying
this willingly). Maybe if someone with the clout of Peter Jackson got
a chance.
But it would also have to be someone who really understood what makes
POTA tick and dedicate to preserving that.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: hill19652000 <shop@...>
Date: Wednesday, September 7, 2005 3:13 pm
Subject: [PotaDG] POTA Its place in time.

>
> Hi all,
> This post may be a bit of a ramble but bear with me I will
> get
> to a point !! Over the last week or so a few topics,in particular
> the
> general enthusiasm for the Metallic Rose comics and Jeff's point
> that
> POTA may need a film franchise to prevent it dying on the vine,got
> me
> wondering whether a remake or updating of POTA could ever be
> successful,(in the eyes of the fans not Fox).If POTA divorced from
> its
> '70s cultural reference points simply loses its resonance and
> becomes
> a film about humans chased by gorillas,(POTA2001 anyone?)
> I'm sure I'm not the first to point out that apes can be seen
> as
> as a proto or pre blockbuster. It shares many characteristics with
> modern blockbusters but also considerable differences, one
> similarity
> is the spin offs, stuff to buy,while a difference is apes as a
> cultural phenomenon took time to grow, a number of years unlike
> the
> modern mass media lauches of the last decade or so.
> The 21st century blockbuster is an animal I have little time
> for, I'm thinking of things like Independance Day, opens big, lots
> of
> merchandise.One significant difference POTA has over most modern
> blockbusters is that it had content,there's gorillas chasing humans
> on
> screen but that's not what it's about.I see POTA as very much a
> product of the '70s, the all pervading fear of the bomb very much
> of
> its time.We all may have seen the films when we were young but I'm
> sure most of us didn't miss this message even then.Cultural fear
> of
> where the cold war was leading played out in melodrama.Now does
> all
> this mean remakes are destined to fail creatively? Does a new
> movie,
> in trying to remain faithful to the spirit of the original,
> replace a
> late 20th century bogey man with a 21st century one, Nuclear war
> replaced with say genetics forinstance? If any movie did this would
> we
> lose so much of what we know of as POTA that it becomes a
> different
> beast,("In order to save the village we had to destroy it") Is it
> possible that the dichotomy at the centre of POTA is that any
> remake
> would do this? That the original speaks so much of its cultural
> times
> that it's almost remake proof?
> Over to you lot I'm off for a lie down :)
> Best wishes Graham.
>
>
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 9/7/05 3:15:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> shop@a... writes:
>
>
> > If POTA divorced from its '70s cultural reference points simply

loses its resonance and becomes a film about humans chased by
gorillas. (POTA2001 anyone?)

> >
>
> POTA2001?!!! Try POTA the TV show. By that time the franchise

had degenerated to almost entirely to juvenilia.

>
> I would say less '70s cultural references and more '50s and '60s.
>
> -- Rory

*** Given the limitations that network TV had in 74, the POTA TV show
was surprisingly good. NO show on TV then could be as hard-hitting as
the original movie "Planet of the Apes". Can you imagine a 74 TV cop
drama as gritty as "Dirty Harry"? As great as the TV cop shows of
that time were -- they didn't and COULDN'T have the same "oomph" that
a theatrical release motion picture did. It's like expecting a TV spy
show of that era to have a female character named Pussy Galore -- it
just would NOT have happened! Oh, they could air "GOLDFINGER" on
network TV and not bleep out when she says, "My name is Pussy
Galore"... just BARELY... but NO network back then could actually
have a made-for-TV spy show character with that name.

Same with POTA. It COULDN'T be as gut-punching as "Planet" was [think
Taylor-at-the-Statue] or "Beneath" was [think Mutants-taking-off-
masks or Brent-riddled-with-bullets].

But what it COULD do, given the "Standards-and-Practices" hoops they
had to jump through, they DID.

From the casual State-sponsored murder of Farrow... to Zako ripping
to shreds the San Francisco Zoo poster... to Kraik facing a possible
death sentence for stealing food (and resorting to selling-out his
fellow humans for what meager food he can cleverly acquire)... the
POTA TV show hit as hard as it could. As hard as CBS TV could allow
them to hit. As "TWILIGHT ZONE" and "STAR TREK" did before,
using 'fantastical' scenarios to depict all-too-real injustices in
our real world, CBS' "PLANET OF THE APES" TV show made that the
primary theme. The real world had and has problems, and problems are
meant to be solved... and the heroes are those who set out to solve
those problems within their own limited means, and against almost
inconceivable odds.

From that standpoint, one might even suggest that the TV show
presented a NOBLER vision than did the movie it was based
on. "Planet" depicts the after-effects of all the mistakes of the
long-forgotten past (which the Apes are doomed to repeat), but the
message of that film seemed to be this: That the State [Zaius] will
successfully use its power to crush the efforts of those who would
make their world a better place, a truer place... so what's the point
in TRYING to make a difference? The Luciuses of the Ape world are, in
a sense, rendered innocuous. They're shooting blanks... and Zaius is
having Marcus use explosives.

But in the TV show, the heroes -- against the odds and with limited
resources and at extreme risk to their own lives -- manage to make
their little dents in the armor of the oppressive State. The
fugitives CAN make a difference... and THAT speaks to the heart of
the Inner Idealist lurking deep within the most curmudgeonly of us.
Remember when Luke Skywalker -- seeing the X-wing fighter levitate
out of the Dagobah swamp -- says, "I don't believe it!"...? "That is
why you fail," says Yoda. BELIEVING that you can make a difference
makes ALL the difference -- otherwise, it's all-too-easy to throw up
your hands and not even bother trying.

Virdon and Burke, while trying to survive on the world they're
trapped, go out of their way to try and make things better -- from
helping to find "The Cure" ailing Trion, to steering a fishing
community away from the heartless tradition of "discarding"
those "unproductive" members of society, like old Gahto, who was made
to feel that he DESERVED to die, that it was "the will of the gods".
Al & Pete -- AND Galen -- put in the extra effort; not only to just
survive... but to help to CHANGE things for others. Even for their
adversaries -- as when Virdon gives the malaria antidote to one of
Urko's gorilla soldiers.

What does Taylor do? Well, he's with Nova, after the end of "Planet",
and he asks himself, "Where in hell do we go from here?" He muses
that he and Nova might attempt to found a human colony... where all
the kids would learn to talk... 'sure' they will, he says, not really
believing it himself.

Not ONCE does Taylor ever suggest that he and Nova try to rescue the
oppressed savage humans from her tribe -- try to teach THEM how to
talk, the way he tries to teach Nova. Taylor has his chick, and he's
happy enough with her... but he doesn't even seem to give ONE THOUGHT
to helping out the miserable wretches languishing in that big outdoor
cage in Ape City.

Granted... that's probably a more REALISTIC stance a person would
take (and, probably why such a scenario -- represented in
Boulle's "PLANET OF THE MEN" script -- was NOT chosen for filming).
Taylor ain't a hero; he's a protagonist, the "main character" in the
story. He's more REAL for being the Cynical, self-serving person
Heston portrayed him as. But Taylor was not one of the Kennedy-
era's "Best and Brightest" -- those Idealist-types who would join the
Peace Corps and try to BETTER the world.

Virdon and Burke, though... THOSE guys would've joined the Peace
Corps had they not become Astronauts. They had it in 'em. And, a POTA
fan watching their adventures... especially when he or she is a YOUNG
and impressionable eyes-wide-open first-time viewer in 1974... can't
help but admire the impetus behind that decision: to make the POTA TV
show about people trying to Right the Wrongs of the world. It takes
GUTS to do that, especially to forsake all the comforts of Home and
Society -- as Galen does -- to live the life of a hated outlaw,
thought of as a lunatic, a heretic, a "human"-lover, an "enemy of the
state"... and STILL do the right thing.

Caesar can HOPE all he wants that the Future looming in the 3950s
won't happen (again)... but without people like Galen and Virdon and
Burke (and those who are "infected" with what they're trying to
spread), without THEM willing to risk all, ACTING on their
principles... the "Doomsday" Cornelius and Zira witnessed from the
windows of the spaceship is INEVITABLE.

I didn't have the good fortune to see ANY of the POTA movies in their
original theatrical run (I was only 3 years old in 1968, and didn't
get to go to many movies until AFTER "Battle" had left theaters)...
but I did get to see the first 3 on CBS, when they aired for the
first time -- and I was hooked. And I was fortunate enough to see the
CBS POTA TV show in its original run, when I was 9 years old and old
enough to "get" what it was about.

Was it as good as 1968's "Planet". Of course not. But was it "POTA"?
Unequivocally, YES. Even the least impressive of its episodes
["Tomorrow's Tide" anyone?] is boatloads more entertaining than the
Burton flick. I'll watch "Tomorrow's Tide ten dozen more times before
I'll pop in "POTA2K", just to remember why I was so upset after I saw
it in the theater.

Patrick

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Those responsible for the new "Return to the Planet of the Apes" set
of would-be 'TOPPS' cards have done it again. Excellent job! Topp-
notch!

By the way, whoever has 'em to send, send me the Whitty-Foster comix
everybody's yakkin' about, okay? Or, are the only available ones to
be had from the Home Page link?

My 2 cents on the new "Revolution on the Planet of the Apes" preview
art: well, it ain't bad. It ain't as good as Foster or Ploog or
Alcala... but I can tell the Apes species apart. Chimps look like
chimps and gorillas look like gorillas. The 'Adventure' comics that
came out -- what was it, 14 YEARS ago??? -- you couldn't tell which
species of ape by the art-styles.

I can live with this art, though I'd prefer Foster-quality, natch.
I'm more interested/concerned with the STORY they're gonna be
telling: and I'd like to know how it is that they can have Caesar and
another ape fighting -- some gorilla hit MacDonald with a rock? --
since Caesar, at the end of CONQUEST, has the 'presence' as the Apes'
leader, and I don't see how it's likely that he could face any ape
opposition that early in the game. He just led them to their victory
over Breck's forces... he's their HERO, fer Pete's sake! (and, for
Alan's sake, too!).

The art? It's okay. Acceptable. Not too shabby. I'm wondering about
STORY, and if they're gonna be "true" to the characters we're so
familiar with. Let's cross our fingers, like Galen in "Tomorrow's
Tide"...

Patrick

P.S. I've been transcribing all my POTA scripts in MS Word files
lately, slightly reformatting them so that they all have matching
formats. And I've noticed that I have all the TV eps except for "THE
DECEPTION". Is it available anywhere? I thought I snagged all the
other ones at Hunter Goatley's site, etc. I've got 2 different
revised "final" drafts of "TOMORROW'S TIDE" (which is how I
remembered Galen's crossed fingers so readily, above...), but I ain't
got "THE DECEPTION" teleplay. I'll have to do a search. If anybody
else has it, let's find a way to make it accessible to everybody,
howzabout?

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Okay folks, Ty Templeton has very kindly sent us some more pages (4)
to have a look at. As usual they are in the files section in
the 'New POTA comic' folder
(http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/New%20POTA%20%
20comic/).

Enjoy and please let Ty know what you think:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/New%20POTA%20%20comic/bw%
20sam2.jpg

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/New%20POTA%20%20comic/bw%
20sam3.jpg

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/New%20POTA%20%20comic/bw%
20tom3.jpg

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/New%20POTA%20%20comic/bw%
20gab3.jpg

As usual a huge amount of thanks go to Ty for sharing these pages
with us, we really are a very privileged group of fans to get to see
them and remember you only get to see this stuff here first!

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 7:11 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Even more preview pages from MR comics!

Okay folks, Ty Templeton has very kindly sent us some more pages (4)
to have a look at. As usual they are in the files section in
the 'New POTA comic' folder
( http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/New%20POTA%20%
20comic/).

Enjoy and please let Ty know what you think:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/New%20POTA%20%20comic/bw%
20sam2.jpg

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/New%20POTA%20%20comic/bw%
20sam3.jpg

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/New%20POTA%20%20comic/bw%
20tom3.jpg

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/New%20POTA%20%20comic/bw%
20gab3.jpg

As usual a huge amount of thanks go to Ty for sharing these pages
with us, we really are a very privileged group of fans to get to see
them and remember you only get to see this stuff here first!

Neil

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I will comment
I think with out even seeing the "speaking captions" to know what
they are saying, or will be saying, the story will be outstanding.
It appears to have the same feel as the Conquest movie does.
(Reminds me of the fan based comics that are being done here buy
Michale and Neil. Since both comics are keeping the original Planet
of the Apes tone, it feels like you are seeing missing footage from
the films. Most excellent. This comic seems to be a pick up of right
where Conquest left off at. Now the veil is being removed and we can
see what transpires after Conquest ends and hopefully see how Caesar
sets up the Ape order and the new Ape world.
Only dislike I have is that they appear too skinny in some frames.
The one stip that has Zaius in it for example. He is way too skinny
in the arms and he fingers are too long and thin.
Hope this helps
John

In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:

> Great stuff.
>
> Ok you lot, we're having a competition.
>
> Winner gets all 6 issues of the new comics (but you have to wait

till they

> are released!).
>
> The winner will be the person whose information is most helpful to

Ty.

>
> To qualify you will have to comment on ALL the comic (MR COMICS)

threads

> from this point onward.
>
> I am going to get some threads going.
>
> I want more, better feedback.
>
> We'll start with individual pages and we will discuss them - one

at a time -

> then a few other posts about other things re comics.
>
> READY? :)
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On

Behalf Of

> Neil
> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 7:11 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Even more preview pages from MR comics!
>
>
> Okay folks, Ty Templeton has very kindly sent us some more pages

(4)

> to have a look at. As usual they are in the files section in
> the 'New POTA comic' folder
> ( http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/New%20POTA%20%
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/New%20POTA%20%>
> 20comic/).
>
> Enjoy and please let Ty know what you think:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/New%20POTA%20%

20comic/bw%

> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/New%20POTA%20%

20comic/bw%>

> 20sam2.jpg
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/New%20POTA%20%

20comic/bw%

> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/New%20POTA%20%

20comic/bw%>

> 20sam3.jpg
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/New%20POTA%20%

20comic/bw%

> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/New%20POTA%20%

20comic/bw%>

> 20tom3.jpg
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/New%20POTA%20%

20comic/bw%

> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/New%20POTA%20%

20comic/bw%>

> 20gab3.jpg
>
> As usual a huge amount of thanks go to Ty for sharing these pages
> with us, we really are a very privileged group of fans to get to

see

> them and remember you only get to see this stuff here first!
>
> Neil
>
>

.html.html In a message dated 9/7/05 11:24:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

What review was that?  I don't know what you're talking about.

-- Rory

This one . . .    http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/message/13272


                      


Oh yes!  I remember that.


WHAT WAS I THINKING?!!!!

The first time I watched POTA2001 I think I had exhausted myself being so negative towards it, so I was trying to give it a break -- but it didn't last.  I don't think I've watched the entire movie since, nor can I recall watching even a few seconds of it in the past three years.  I've hidden my DVD of it in a cold dark place so I don't even have to look at the box.

I want nothing but to forget the thing.

NOW!

Don't remind me of it again, you bloody bastards!

-- Rory<.html <.html

.html.html In a message dated 9/8/05 12:29:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time, JLKINSER1970@... writes:

I spoke with IRONMAN and he is still needing people off the
groups to get with him with their names and the POTA figure that they
would most like Sideshow to release. He said that he isn't getting a
very good response from the group so lets all get behind him and back
up this letter that he is composing for Sideshow and lets try to save
the Ape line

What's this all about?  Who's this person and what does he want?

What I want from Sideshow is two 40th Anniversary POTA Super Sets.

What I want is a set of the gorilla photographer and the three gorillas getting their picture taken while they "smile."

And I want the three orangutan ad hoc tribunal setting at their table doing the "See no evil" thing, with that Lawgiver bust behind them.

I think Sideshow would be wise to have something like this to sell in 2008 on the 40th.

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.html.html In a message dated 9/8/05 12:47:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:

Was it as good as 1968's "Planet". Of course not. But was it "POTA"?
Unequivocally, YES. Even the least impressive of its episodes
["Tomorrow's Tide" anyone?] is boatloads more entertaining than the
Burton flick. I'll watch "Tomorrow's Tide ten dozen more times before
I'll pop in "POTA2K", just to remember why I was so upset after I saw
it in the theater.

Patrick

Was this written by Patrick or Kass?

The POTA TV show was boring and bland.  And that's not my opinion, it's a proven fact.

The proof?

It barely lasted 14 episodes.

Nuff said.

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Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 8:55 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: MR Comics Planet of the Apes - Pencils compared with Painted

I think that looks pretty good, B&W and color.

When's it coming out?

-- Rory

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.html.html In a message dated 9/8/05 7:00:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

The CONQUEST based story seemd to be going down that path.

The PLANET based story seems like it could be more cerebral.

What do we think about that?

Michael

I think...

we'll see.

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.html.html In a message dated 9/8/05 7:00:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Hey Rory,

Decmber 7.

Michael


Decmber 7th!!!  Alright!

Now, where can we pre-order these on the web so that they'll be sent directly to us?

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.html.html In a message dated 9/8/05 7:08:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Well here's a page from the PLANET based story.

Looks like Dr Z has found something!

Is that Zirs and Cornelius in the background?!?!?!?


I wonder if they will tie in this find to the CONQUEST based story?

If they do.......WILL THAT MEAN WE ARE DESTINED FOR A CIRCULAR TIME LINE?!?!?

Rory....how do we educate these guys!???!!?  :)




I looked at it, but I don't get it.  What has Zaius got in his hands?  A map?

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.html.html In a message dated 9/8/05 7:14:34 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Here's another page.

Now I actually like this one more than the one with Dr Zaius....I appreciate the likeness of Cornelius more.

I think the artist is Gabriel (gab) Morisette.

Comments?


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Here's another page.

Now I actually like this one more than the one with Dr Zaius....I appreciate the likeness of Cornelius more.

I think the artist is Gabriel (gab) Morisette.

Comments?



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In a message dated 9/8/05 7:00:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Hey Rory,

Decmber 7.

Michael

Decmber 7th!!!  Alright!

Now, where can we pre-order these on the web so that they'll be sent directly to us?

-- Rory

Hi-res printable files and the raw screen grabs will be available soon.

 

Greg

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Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 2:30 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] MR Comics Planet of the Apes - PLANET BASED STORY

I don't know, I just don't feel these are as good as Neil's drawings. I like the way Caesar is drawn but not the rest of what I have seen. E

 

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His group handle is IRONMAN. What he is doing is compiling a list of
names of Ape fans and a figure that they would like to see Sidshow
make. Once the list is finished he is going to put it all together
in a letter to show Sideshow that we fans do have an interest in
their Ape Line and these are the figures we would like to see
made.
It is an attempt to try to get Sideshow to continue their Ape line
and try to give us fans a voice on what wwe would like to see made.
I don't know if he wants his email pasted on the form because I
haven't asked him but I will send it to you off line incase you
would like to talk to him and get more info on the list he is
making.
John



In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 9/8/05 12:29:41 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> JLKINSER1970@h... writes:
>
>
> > I spoke with IRONMAN and he is still needing people off the
> > groups to get with him with their names and the POTA figure that

they

> > would most like Sideshow to release. He said that he isn't

getting a

> > very good response from the group so lets all get behind him and

back

> > up this letter that he is composing for Sideshow and lets try to

save

> > the Ape line
> >
>
> What's this all about? Who's this person and what does he want?
>
> What I want from Sideshow is two 40th Anniversary POTA Super Sets.
>
> What I want is a set of the gorilla photographer and the three

gorillas

> getting their picture taken while they "smile."
>
> And I want the three orangutan ad hoc tribunal setting at their

table doing

> the "See no evil" thing, with that Lawgiver bust behind them.
>
> I think Sideshow would be wise to have something like this to sell

in 2008 on

> the 40th.
>
> -- Rory

To be honest at first the cover dissapointed me. I was thinking we
were going to get a Burton type of Ape likness and story line. But
since seeing the pages that they have allowed us to see, I can deal
with it. I am not sure if it is a cover or not but I especially like
the one where Caesar is standing with the buildings burning behind
him and Govener Breck (I assume that is him) on his knees before
Caesar. That is an Awesome pic and I currently have it as my
wallpaper.
John

In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:

> OK here's the cover and ad.
>
> What do we think of this?
>
> If you have already said it, say it again!
>
> I see there are 6 issues - AND THERE ARE 2 STORIES PER ISSUE!
>
> I LIKE THAT!
>
> The gorilla looks to be taking a classic King Kong pose....I think

that is

> intended and it is a clever ploy!
>
>
> <http://f3.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/YLQgQxshqrFK1RoMRgkywquDRJDmebj-rH-

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>

I agree with that. I wonder if that is why MR Comics did their comic
book around the Conquest story line; it could be action packed and
blood and guts all in one. Of course, I think that the comics you
and Neil are doing are pretty action packed also.
John

In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:

> I spoke to Neil on the phone last night and he made an interesting

point.

>
> Comic books today seem to be very ACTION orientated.........very

animated if

> you will excuse the pun!
>
> The CONQUEST based story seemd to be going down that path.
>
> The PLANET based story seems like it could be more cerebral.
>
> What do we think about that?
>
> Michael
>

I like these but Neils art work, I have to agree, if way better. Well
to be honest neils art work is EXCELLENT!! They look like the actual
Movie actors.
John


In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, taebokitti@a... wrote:

> I don't know, I just don't feel these are as good as Neil's

drawings. I like

> the way Caesar is drawn but not the rest of what I have seen. Elaine

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In a message dated 9/8/2005 5:34:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:

What I want is a set of the gorilla photographer and the three gorillas getting their picture taken while they "smile."

And I want the three orangutan ad hoc tribunal setting at their table doing the "See no evil" thing, with that Lawgiver bust behind them.

 

I want sets.  And when I say sets I don't just mean

more than one figure.  I want the museum or the

operating room!  -- with The Vet and his Assistant.

That would be cool!

 

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His group handle is IRONMAN. What he is doing is compiling a list of
names of Ape fans and a figure that they would like to see Sidshow
make. Once the list is finished he is going to put it all together
in a letter to show Sideshow that we fans do have an interest in
their Ape Line and these are the figures we would like to see
made.  
It is an attempt to try to get Sideshow to continue their Ape line
and try to give us fans a voice on what wwe would like to see made.
I don't know if he wants his email pasted on the form because I
haven't asked him but I will send it to you off line incase you
would like to talk to him and get more info on the list he is
making.
John

 

  John, I don't have Ironman's address but if you could pass on to him, I would like Sideshow to make Urko from the TV show, Lisa and Virgil from Battle. Thanks. Elaine

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I have been getting a few emails on what this list is about. IRONMAN
is making a list to send to Sideshow in order to help to continue
their Ape line as well as try to give us fans a "voice" as to what
figures are made and what we wouldlike to see. He is wanting to
compile a list of names of POTA fans and what figures they would
like to see made and send it in letter from to Sideshow. I emailed
him and asked if I could give his email and he said sure, to spread
the word but to put SAVE THE APES in your heading so his Spam
Blocker does not block it out.
His email is Ironman1188@...



Lets all jump in on this and hopefully we can get Sideshow to not
only continue with the Ape line but make figures that may not have a
chance to be made other wise.
I sent them a copy of the letter I have posted in the files section
and they reassured me that the Apes are not discontinued but none
are in production at the moment. They went on to say to encourage
all POTA fans to continue to let them know what they would like to
see as far as the Ape line goes. They said the only way they know
the fans wants is buy them letting Sideshow know
John

Be sure to contact IRONMAN and let him know about this so he can add
you to the letter he is making
John

In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 9/8/2005 5:34:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> Haristas@a... writes:
>
> What I want is a set of the gorilla photographer and the three

gorillas

> getting their picture taken while they "smile."
>
> And I want the three orangutan ad hoc tribunal setting at their

table doing

> the "See no evil" thing, with that Lawgiver bust behind them.
>
>
>
> I want sets. And when I say sets I don't just mean
> more than one figure. I want the museum or the
> operating room! -- with The Vet and his Assistant.
> That would be cool!

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Has the world been taken over by apes or something? 

J



Michael




Yes.  Haven't you taken a good look at Bush and his bunch of baboons lately?

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:

> Has the world been taken over by apes or something? :-)
>
> Michael
>
> --

Cricket, Michael, Cricket.:)
Best Graham.

Mike,

Sorry to be quiet I got home yesterday and am still reading all the
emails from the past week

Thank you to you and Neil for sharing the pages from the new comic I
cant wait till it is out on newsstands But I should confess I am
looking forward to the new chapter of WITHIN more

Dan

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> Has the world been taken over by apes or something? :-)
>
> Michael
>
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:

> Yeah - looks like it's all over.
>
> Bloody UMPIRES! :-)
>
> Ricky Ponting
>

I know I'll feel a lot better tomorrow !!( Hopefully, the fat
lady's not singing yet.)I might be able to get some painting done!
Umpires heh, who'ld have 'em :)
Best wishes Graham.

>
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Hi,
I know John aka Luke_the_drifter has been plugging this for me
{thanks John!!}
What I am trying to do is compile an extenive list of folks that
liked the Sideshow Planet of the Apes line as much [if not more] as
the old Mego line of our youth [or the youth of some of us]. They,
Sideshow, have not officially canceled the line as they say "nothing
is ever dead" but instead have placed the line on "hiatus". Anyone
that ever had a favorite show growing up knows the worst thing that
could ever happen would be for it to go "on hiatus". It was the kiss
of death.
There are too many figures left to be made, IMHO, despite others
thinking them too obscure. A showing of some characters fom the TV
show may do as well or better than the figures already issued. Or a
few of the background apes that were memorable from the films like
Julius, Lucius, Dr. Honorious, Dr Maximus or the President of the
Assembly. What about Landon, Dodge or even Stewart??
As for sets like labs and the like...I'm actually trying a different
direction for those and would like to be able to use the figure list
to show how many fans are still behind the line and to nudge the
release of some "accessory" sets.
So, if you liked the line and would like to see more figures
produced, or even if you didn't buy one single figure because you
were waiting for one that they didn't make. Please send me your info.
Here's what I need:
-your name
-your city/state
-your email address
-which ONE figure/figure set you'd most like to see
Send this to ironman1188@...
Once I get what I feel will be a number of replies worthy of
approaching Sideshow with I will do just that. And the most requested
figure will be the figure [or figure set] that I try and pressure
them into making.
Thanks for your time,

Ironman

I haven't bought any of the Planet of the Apes figures made by
Sideshow, and I don't intend to do so in the future. I don't like 12"
figures. I'd rather see a company like CTVT get the license and make
replicas of the Mego figures, then extend the line with new figures.

On Sep 11, 2005, at 5:55 p.m., ironman1188 wrote:

> Hi,
> I know John aka Luke_the_drifter has been plugging this for me
> {thanks John!!}
> What I am trying to do is compile an extenive list of folks that
> liked the Sideshow Planet of the Apes line as much [if not more] as
> the old Mego line of our youth [or the youth of some of us]. They,
> Sideshow, have not officially canceled the line as they say "nothing
> is ever dead" but instead have placed the line on "hiatus". Anyone
> that ever had a favorite show growing up knows the worst thing that
> could ever happen would be for it to go "on hiatus". It was the kiss
> of death.
> There are too many figures left to be made, IMHO, despite others
> thinking them too obscure. A showing of some characters fom the TV
> show may do as well or better than the figures already issued. Or a
> few of the background apes that were memorable from the films like
> Julius, Lucius, Dr. Honorious, Dr Maximus or the President of the
> Assembly. What about Landon, Dodge or even Stewart??
> As for sets like labs and the like...I'm actually trying a different
> direction for those and would like to be able to use the figure list
> to show how many fans are still behind the line and to nudge the
> release of some "accessory" sets.
> So, if you liked the line and would like to see more figures
> produced, or even if you didn't buy one single figure because you
> were waiting for one that they didn't make. Please send me your info.
> Here's what I need:
> -your name
> -your city/state
> -your email address
> -which ONE figure/figure set you'd most like to see
> Send this to ironman1188@...
> Once I get what I feel will be a number of replies worthy of
> approaching Sideshow with I will do just that. And the most requested
> figure will be the figure [or figure set] that I try and pressure
> them into making.
> Thanks for your time,
>
> Ironman

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Woodbridge, Virginia

PofTAfan@...

I would like to see Lisa set. The Conquest version and Battle.

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:

> Here is another page by Tom Fowler.
> Actually it seems this page should go BEFORE the first page I sent.

-- Yeah that seems correct it does seem to 'read' that way. I don't
know what I can add about Tom's art, I'm sure I raved about it before.
I love these pencilled pages, these I really want to see inked AND
coloured. Fantastic stuff and we really are going to be spoiled, POTA
done Proper!

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:

> Salgood Sam's art is really growing on me!
> I like it and I can't wait to see the first issue. I am guessing

this is the feature story for issue one.

-- One good thing about being down with the flu for the last few days
is that I got the time to have a good look at the preview pages and
I'm glad I did. Here I was looking at the style of the artists and
basing my responses on that. What an idiot!

Sal's stuff is really nice, the backgrounds the clothes, everything is
as true to the movies as we could ask for, we really are spoiled here,
we didn't even get this realism from Marvel. He really tells a story
with his art and like I did say the colour is great and from what we
have seen so far, again true to 'our Apes'.

Neil

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:

> Well here's a page from the PLANET based story.
> Looks like Dr Z has found something!
> Is that Zirs and Cornelius in the background?!?!?!?

-- Well that is who I took the 'characters' on these pages to be but
I suppose we don't find out until they get their 'voices'

Gabriel's is the stuff that has grown on me most. I'm really
starting to like this, so what if the figures seemed too skinny to
me, chimps and orangs do after all have long skinny arms.

This art really does tell a story, it really flows nicely and
smoothly from panel to panel. It's like watching a movie. These two
pages don't even need the words that will (probably?) end up on
them, you get the idea of what is going on from the art on it's own,
great stuff.
I am really interested in seeing these pages in colour eventually
that will add even more to them I'm sure.

Neil

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 2:12 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: MR Comics Planet of the Apes - PLANET BASED STORY

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> Well here's a page from the PLANET based story.
> Looks like Dr Z has found something!
> Is that Zirs and Cornelius in the background?!?!?!?

-- Well that is who I took the 'characters' on these pages to be but
I suppose we don't find out until they get their 'voices'

Gabriel's is the stuff that has grown on me most. I'm really
starting to like this, so what if the figures seemed too skinny to
me, chimps and orangs do after all have long skinny arms.

This art really does tell a story, it really flows nicely and
smoothly from panel to panel. It's like watching a movie. These two
pages don't even need the words that will (probably?) end up on
them, you get the idea of what is going on from the art on it's own,
great stuff.
I am really interested in seeing these pages in colour eventually
that will add even more to them I'm sure.

Neil

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 2:12 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: MR Comics Planet of the Apes - PLANET BASED STORY

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> Well here's a page from the PLANET based story.
> Looks like Dr Z has found something!
> Is that Zirs and Cornelius in the background?!?!?!?

-- Well that is who I took the 'characters' on these pages to be but
I suppose we don't find out until they get their 'voices'

Gabriel's is the stuff that has grown on me most. I'm really
starting to like this, so what if the figures seemed too skinny to
me, chimps and orangs do after all have long skinny arms.

This art really does tell a story, it really flows nicely and
smoothly from panel to panel. It's like watching a movie. These two
pages don't even need the words that will (probably?) end up on
them, you get the idea of what is going on from the art on it's own,
great stuff.
I am really interested in seeing these pages in colour eventually
that will add even more to them I'm sure.

Neil

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Well Neil I think you are winning the competition at the moment!  :)

 

Come on you lot how about some more comments?

 

This is like a fan's dream come true - sneak preview at an official release and an opportunity to comment.

 

Michael

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I'm a bit behind in reading up on postings the last few days, but I
did want to be sure to comment on the new MR POTA comic series. I also
wanted to have a chance to watch "Conquest" once again, which I did
the other night, just in case it might evoke other comments.
(Actually, I'll use any excuse to watch POTA movies.)

First of, the art all round, is a lot better that I was worried it may
be. Yes, there are stylistic differences, but in all cases I've found
that they are certainly of good quality and reprentative of the POTA
we all cherish. My only complaint is that some of the colored images
appear to be too dark and we loose a lot of the detail because of it.
I'm hoping that this is only due to the scanning process and that the
actual comics will still have the detail. I worry about this a bit
since "Conquest" was of course a film that used a lot of dark scenery
and I'm hoping that the dark colouring was not something intentionally
done to achieve a similar look and feel. I've noted the 'skinny ape'
symdrome many others here have pointed out, and while I agree they are
mildly on the anorexic side, I can certainly live with them.

The storyline, something that we can only imagine from the few preview
page snippets, does seem to be very exciting and, yes, violent in
nature. I commend MR for keeping that aspect of "Conquest" intact.
While it may be controvertial, it is very much a part of the message
conveyed by that particular era of the POTA story arc. As we all know,
in the modified ending to "Conquest" Caesar spared Brent on the night
of the revolution, but we never did find out exactly what happened to
him. Somehow, I don't think that he was just left alone to devise some
counterrevolution of his own, after that night. Was he imprisoned?
Exiled? I'm hoping that MR may answer this. Also, MacDonald's
disappearance from Caesar's side (to be replaced by his brother) by
the time the events in "Battle" come around also needs some
explaining. Again some sort of counter revolution may answer his exact
fate.

If the stories sampled here lives up to their promise, we can be in
for an exciting comic series. I'll be getting them as soon as they
arrive here and will be promoting them to my other Canadian friends.

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Hi michael, just noticed the home page pic, is it you or Neil
behind this?? :) It took me a while due to the fact that for most of
the day I was peering at things from behind closed fingers:)I'll be
glad to go back to work tomorrow and get some rest.
Best Wishes Graham.

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of hill19652000
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 8:04 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Home page

   Hi michael, just noticed the home page pic, is it you or Neil
behind this?? :) It took me a while due to the fact that for most of
the day I was peering at things from behind closed fingers:)I'll be
glad to go back to work tomorrow and get some rest.
Best Wishes Graham.

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                 For once I just can't wait for the new Planet of the Apes comic to be released. The artwork is well done and I am hoping that the storyline follows the original POTA series. I will be placing my order for this book or books(may order 2).

 

Kevin

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Tim Burton's Corpse Bride is really is last hope of salvaging

his reputation as a serious director.  Creepy stop motion

animation is what he does best and he should stick to it,

unless he wants to be know as the Master of Mediocre

Remakes.  And who knows which classic he'll try to

ruin the memory of next.  I shudder to think about it.

 

 

Daily Cardinal (subscription) - Madison,WI,USA
"... For my money, Tim Burton's remake of "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" was on par with his abominable remake of "Planet of the Apes,"

 

 

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Tim Burton's Corpse Bride is really is last hope of salvaging

his reputation as a serious director.  Creepy stop motion

animation is what he does best and he should stick to it,

unless he wants to be know as the Master of Mediocre

Remakes.  And who knows which classic he'll try to

ruin the memory of next.  I shudder to think about it.

 

 

Daily Cardinal (subscription) - Madison,WI,USA
"... For my money, Tim Burton's remake of "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" was on par with his abominable remake of "Planet of the Apes,"

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In a message dated 9/12/2005 6:59:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

My wife and kids absolutely loved Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

 

Then you should show them Willy Wonka.

It's soooooooo much better.

 

 

 

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In a message dated 9/12/2005 6:59:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

My wife and kids absolutely loved Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

 

Then you should show them Willy Wonka.

It's soooooooo much better.

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 9/8/05 12:47:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> patrickmichaeltilton@y... writes:
>
>
> > Was it as good as 1968's "Planet". Of course not. But was

it "POTA"? Unequivocally, YES. Even the least impressive of its
episodes ["Tomorrow's Tide" anyone?] is boatloads more entertaining
than the Burton flick. I'll watch "Tomorrow's Tide ten dozen more
times before I'll pop in "POTA2K", just to remember why I was so
upset after I saw it in the theater.

> >
> > Patrick
> >
>
> Was this written by Patrick or Kass?
>
> The POTA TV show was boring and bland. And that's not my opinion,

it's a proven fact.

>
> The proof?
>
> It barely lasted 14 episodes.
>
> Nuff said.
>
> -- Rory

*** I didn't think it was boring or bland. That's just a matter of
opinion.

The only fact here is that POTA aired opposite shows on a competing
network that were cheaper to produce and were huge hits ("Chico and
the Man", etc). Each episode of POTA was expensive for its time --
until "BATTLESTAR GALACTICA" came out, it was probably the most
expensive sci-fi show ever to air on network TV, and "BG" was green-
lighted only because the network wanted to capitalize on the enormous
popularity of "STAR WARS", so they spent some more cash on it,
getting Dykstra to do the sfx, etc.

POTA had good ratings, even despite it being aired in the "death
slot" opposite ratings busters like "Chico"... but its expenses
demanded ratings far above any it was expected to get. It's too bad
they didn't shop around for a different time-slot; if they had, they
might've kept it going.

Patrick

Thanks Elaine.
I really hope everyone who enjoys the apes will help out on this one.
And pass the word to others that I may not have been able to reach
[yet]. I need numbers that Sideshow can't ignore and I know that ape
fans have those numbers. Hell, it wouldn't be a 30+ year franchise if
it didn't.

> > The POTA TV show was boring and bland. And that's not my opinion,
> it's a proven fact.
> >
> > The proof?
> >
> > It barely lasted 14 episodes.
> >
> > Nuff said.
> >
> > -- Rory

Hmmm, I guess the original Kolchak, Battlestar Galactica, Green Hornet,
Tru Calling, Firefly,... etc were all boring and bland too. If a shows
early cancellation is your idea of a proven fact about the show in ALL
cases.....
Or I guess that makes ALF a proven winner because it had over 100
episodes?

.html Frankly, I don't know about preordering.  We should get a subscription service up and running soon, for folks who want to be guaranteed an issue.  I'll mention this to my publisher asap.

Ty

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of ironman1188
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 3:42 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: POTA Its place in time.

> > The POTA TV show was boring and bland.  And that's not my opinion,
> it's a proven fact.
> >
> > The proof?
> >
> > It barely lasted 14 episodes.
> >
> > Nuff said.
> >
> > -- Rory

Hmmm, I guess the original Kolchak, Battlestar Galactica, Green Hornet,
Tru Calling, Firefly,... etc  were all boring and bland too. If a shows
early cancellation is your idea of a proven fact about the show in ALL
cases.....
Or I guess that makes ALF a proven winner because it had over 100
episodes?

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Thanks for that one (even if it took you 3 tries!).
Nice cover art on it too.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Plonowski <urko3085@...>
Date: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 8:40 am
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: TV series soundtrack due out October 11.

> Sorry about that. Somehow hit Send before I could past in the
> following link:
>
>
http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.ACCT67745/category.7/it.A/id.4506/.
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> Greg
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