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Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Article from the Mego Museum

In a message dated 12/18/2005 2:33:18 AM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

Is this Bill Blake?

No, I don't think it is... MEGO had other people dressed up as apes for their promotions...

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In a message dated 12/18/2005 6:50:23 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

This MEGO MUSEUM website is absolutely astounding!

Did you see the picture then of the kids and the apes on the Mego Holiday float? (Thanksgiving day parade I think it was...)

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Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: King Kong 2005 (OT)

In a message dated 12/18/2005 6:37:50 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

And the spider pit! 

So, you seen the new Kong then Whitty? If so, what are your thoughts on it?

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Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Timelines...and MORE new WITHIN!?!??!

In a message dated 12/18/2005 10:11:21 AM Central Standard Time, patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:

They named Booth Colman's character 'Zaius' for a reason.

Yeah, because they couldn't think of any other name and they wanted some cheap name familiarity...

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Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: King Kong 2005 (OT)

In a message dated 12/18/05 8:16:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

I don't think you can BEAT the ORIGINAL.  It was a masterpiece.

'33 KING KONG is a masterpiece of its kind, and it never should have been remade.  The movie Jackson should have remade was SON OF KONG.  Now that could be a whole lot better.

Now Rory - is NEW KK as bad as NEW POTA was, in comparison?

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Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Timelines...and MORE new WITHIN!?!??!

In a message dated 12/18/05 8:40:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Must agree - there is no way in the world you could argue ANYTHING in the TV Show had ANYTHING to do with continuity.

Why do we agrue these things again and again?  Why must everything be of one "continuity"?

The original film was "based" on the novel.  It's sequels were based on the characters from the novel and the film.  The TV show was "based" on the film series, as was the cartoon series.

Just leave it at that.

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Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: King Kong 2005 (OT)

In a message dated 12/18/2005 7:50:44 PM Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

Should have been a much shorter movie -- for IMAX.

For me, the three hours went by FAST... It didn't feel like a long movie...

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Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Lawgiver for Ty....TV SERIES

In a message dated 12/18/2005 5:29:17 P.M. Central Standard Time, merlynpota@... writes:

Wasn't a son (Cornelius) born with Caesar's mating with Lisa at
the "command post" the ape managment center??

 

No.  Though Natalie Trundy said she did the scene

it hasn't been definitively established that she was

playing the same character.  In fact, from the photos

I'd say it's not the same makeup even if it was her

wearing it.  Also the time difference rules that out.

Cornelius the younger was about 12.  And it had

been more than 12 years since the revolution.

Mandimus was Virgils teacher when he was a

boy, etc . . . suggests that more than 12 years

has passed since the revolt.

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Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 4:34 PM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: King Kong 2005 (OT)

In a message dated 12/18/2005 9:41:23 AM Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

The script is worse than the original, rather than improving on it

What is wrong with the 1933 script? Obviously by saying that it is "worse then the original", you think there is something wrong with the '33 script? Things that could have been improved with the original are what?

Personally, yes, things like the ice skating thing WERE stupid, I never said this new one was perfect by any means... BUT, I liked that it had much more action to it than the original...

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Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 4:34 PM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: King Kong 2005 (OT)

In a message dated 12/18/2005 9:41:23 AM Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

The script is worse than the original, rather than improving on it

What is wrong with the 1933 script? Obviously by saying that it is "worse then the original", you think there is something wrong with the '33 script? Things that could have been improved with the original are what?

Personally, yes, things like the ice skating thing WERE stupid, I never said this new one was perfect by any means... BUT, I liked that it had much more action to it than the original...

> RIGHT!
> What's all this then Neil??!?!?!?

> This is my favourite so far..

> Must agree - there is no way in the world you could argue ANYTHING

In a message dated 12/18/2005 7:50:44 PM Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

Should have been a much shorter movie -- for IMAX.

For me, the three hours went by FAST... It didn't feel like a long movie...

Do You Yahoo!?

> I'll re-phrase then...you SHOULD not..because it is obviously about

> The yapping dog makes me place it prior to Planet,

> but to me that's with the original ape revolt.not the one after Zira

In regards to the KONG film, I am not going to give any spoilers away about this movie, but let me just it is an EXCELLENT movie... I hope it lives up to the hype and blows Titanic's ass away as the "highest money making film of all time"... Go see it!!!

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In a message dated 12/17/05 9:38:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

OK Rory, what was wrong with it?

Just the highlights!  J

It's kind of dumb and even silly at times. (Ann walking down the street towards Kong with the light behind her, the both of them on the ice in Central Park.  These things belong in a dream sequence, rather than in the reality of the story.)  Some of the SFX pieces are over-the-top and rather than be amazed and awed by what you see, you laugh at how extreme it is.  The script is worse than the original, rather than improving on it -- as it should have done, and Kong is too much of a big dog in character, rather than the beast of the original.  I hated watching him die.  It was depressing and just too sad.  It seemed to me as if in being asked by the filmmakers to view this was cruel.  You feel empathy for Kong while you're still on Skull Island, something you don't in the original because he's just this raging beast, therefore you feel very sorry for him when he's captured and you can't understand why they're being so cruel to him when they take him to New York.  It makes the last third of the movie even more unbelievable and excruciating to watch.  How could everyone except Ann be so unsympathetic to this obviously sympathetic animal?

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 12/18/2005 5:29:17 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> merlynpota@y... writes:
>
> Wasn't a son (Cornelius) born with Caesar's mating with Lisa at
> the "command post" the ape managment center??
>
>
>
> No. Though Natalie Trundy said she did the scene
> it hasn't been definitively established that she was
> playing the same character. In fact, from the photos
> I'd say it's not the same makeup even if it was her
> wearing it. Also the time difference rules that out.
> Cornelius the younger was about 12. And it had
> been more than 12 years since the revolution.
> Mandimus was Virgils teacher when he was a
> boy, etc . . . suggests that more than 12 years
> has passed since the revolt.
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
>
> According to the shipping list on Diamond Comics Distributor's
website the first issue of the much-anticipated Revolution on the
Planet of the Apes will not be in comic shops this week, but it does
appear on next week's shipping list. Got some extra Christmas money
from your favorite aunt? Buy some extra copies of Revolution next week.
>
> http://www.diamondcomics.com/shipping.asp
>
> Greg
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 12/19/2005 7:37:36 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> merlynpota@y... writes:
>
> So it wasn't the same Cornelius that Aldo killed??
>
>
>
> Not sure what you mean by that.
> Cornelius the elder would be Caesars' father.
>

>
> The yapping dog makes me place it prior to Planet, but to me that's

>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> > I'll re-phrase then...you SHOULD not..because it is obviously about
> as much to do with the movies as either of them are to do with

>
> -- I don't think it is fair to say that at all. The TV show could
> quite easily fit in sometime between Battle and Planet and in fact
> that is the way I see it myself.
>
> Neil

>
> In a message dated 12/18/2005 10:11:21 AM Central Standard Time,
> patrickmichaeltilton@y... writes:
>
> > They named Booth Colman's character 'Zaius' for a reason.
> >
>
> Yeah, because they couldn't think of any other name and they wanted

> And, if the TV Zaius is supposedly the ancestor of the movie Zaius,

> The orangutans are the higher ups so is it that hard to believe

> BTW, TV Zaius is Chief Coucilor Zaius, head of the Supreme Council,

>
> <patrickmichaeltilton@y...> wrote:
> > Caesar, the FIRST (and, since he became heirless, last?) King
>
> Wasn't a son (Cornelius) born with Caesar's mating with Lisa at
> the "command post" the ape managment center??

> Yeah, but that acting was PB, Pre-Brando.
> Nobody knew how to act naturally in front
> of a camera back then. It was just toned
> down stage acting. Which doesn't work.

> It never should have been remade in the first place!

Thanks for the information Greg.

 

I guess you wouldn’t call this a rumour would you?

 

Well, I mean you could, but you would look rather stupid!   J

Michael

 

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Plonowski
Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2005 11:40 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com; potadg@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Revolution on the Planet of the Apes - in shops next week

 

According to the shipping list on Diamond Comics Distributor's website the first issue of the much-anticipated Revolution on the Planet of the Apes will not be in comic shops this week, but it does appear on next week's shipping list. Got some extra Christmas money from your favorite aunt? Buy some extra copies of Revolution next week.

 

http://www.diamondcomics.com/shipping.asp

 

Greg

 

I doubt very highly my local comic shops will get these...how can I
order online??

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski wrote:
>
> According to the shipping list on Diamond Comics Distributor's
website the first issue of the much-anticipated Revolution on the
Planet of the Apes will not be in comic shops this week, but it does
appear on next week's shipping list. Got some extra Christmas money
from your favorite aunt? Buy some extra copies of Revolution next week.
>
> http://www.diamondcomics.com/shipping.asp
>
> Greg
>






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It did add to the original – there was a cerebral element the original did not have.   I thought it respected the original, but I hated the lines like “WRAY IS NOT AVAILABLE – SHE IS DOING A MOVIE FOR RKO”.  I can’t explain why but I really hate this kind of writing and I think it has a lot to do with my feeling POTA 2001 slipped from the “DAMNED DIRTY HUMAN” line…..it seems almost cheap….almost like the writer is saying “I’m a fan!”.

 

Anyway…..then there are the times when a subtle nod to an original DOES work.   Like if you did a POTA comic and named a character “TRUNDY”.  That’s the sort of subtlety I like!

Michael

 

> Thanks Tim. Jessica says you do it for her too!
> :-)
>
> Dwan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Tim "apefan"
> Sent: Tuesday, 20 December 2005 8:24 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: King Kong 2005 (OT)
>
> Me too Cougar....It flew by for me......And I think
> the "silly" things
> such as the ice skating scene fit in just because
> the whole damn thing
> is a fantasy,,,,,Can't take anything seriously....or
> else Ann Darrow
> would have a severe case of hypothermia from walking
> around wintery
> Manhatten in a slip and robe not to mention sitting
> on the top of the
> Empire State Building for forty minutes....her hair
> had a gentle breeze
> caressing it when you KNOW it was windy and cold as
> hell up there....! I
> just let myself go back to when I was young and let
> my mind go and just
> enjoyed it....much like I did in 76...but that never
> did it for
> me......except for...Jessica
> Lange.......naked.......
>
> Tim
>
> mlccougar@... wrote:
> In a message dated 12/18/2005 7:50:44 PM Central
> Standard Time,
> Haristas@... writes:
>
>
>
> Should have been a much shorter movie -- for IMAX.
>
>
> For me, the three hours went by FAST... It didn't
> feel like a long
> movie...
>
> --
>

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>
>
> In a message dated 12/20/2005 3:47:44 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> whitty@c... writes:
>
> So you didn’t need ME to spoil it eh???? J
>
>
> This is the part I'm talking about
>
>
> I thought the first hour dragged, and I HATED Jack Black (do

> favour and imagine Clint Eastwood playing his part). He just

> switch between “smart-ass one-liner” guy and “serious guy”

> is the KING of this.
> But overall I really enjoyed the movie.
> And I had tears in my eyes when he died.
> If you meant Kong I didn't get the subject change.
>