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Group: potadg Message: 35173 From: hill19652000 Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!
Group: potadg Message: 35174 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: The quiet ones...
Group: potadg Message: 35175 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
Group: potadg Message: 35176 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!
Group: potadg Message: 35177 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
Group: potadg Message: 35178 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: The quiet ones...
Group: potadg Message: 35179 From: John Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
Group: potadg Message: 35180 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: DARIO! You wanna see more GOING HOME?!?!?!?!?
Group: potadg Message: 35181 From: John Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
Group: potadg Message: 35182 From: John Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
Group: potadg Message: 35183 From: John Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: Batman
Group: potadg Message: 35184 From: John Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
Group: potadg Message: 35185 From: John Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: The quiet ones...
Group: potadg Message: 35186 From: tshaf37@aol.com Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
Group: potadg Message: 35187 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 35188 From: Neil T Foster Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Within the Planet of the Apes strip #77 to 80
Group: potadg Message: 35189 From: Neil Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!
Group: potadg Message: 35190 From: Neil Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
Group: potadg Message: 35191 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
Group: potadg Message: 35192 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
Group: potadg Message: 35193 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
Group: potadg Message: 35194 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
Group: potadg Message: 35195 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!
Group: potadg Message: 35196 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!
Group: potadg Message: 35197 From: Neil Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!
Group: potadg Message: 35198 From: Neil Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!
Group: potadg Message: 35199 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
Group: potadg Message: 35200 From: hill19652000 Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!
Group: potadg Message: 35201 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: The quiet ones...
Group: potadg Message: 35202 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
Group: potadg Message: 35203 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Read this!
Group: potadg Message: 35204 From: Neil Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: The quiet ones...
Group: potadg Message: 35205 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: The quiet ones...
Group: potadg Message: 35206 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!
Group: potadg Message: 35207 From: Neil Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: Read this!
Group: potadg Message: 35208 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: The quiet ones...
Group: potadg Message: 35209 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: The quiet ones...
Group: potadg Message: 35210 From: Neil Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!
Group: potadg Message: 35211 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: Read this!
Group: potadg Message: 35212 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: Read this!
Group: potadg Message: 35213 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: The quiet ones...
Group: potadg Message: 35214 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: Read this!
Group: potadg Message: 35215 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: The quiet ones...
Group: potadg Message: 35216 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!
Group: potadg Message: 35217 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: The quiet ones...
Group: potadg Message: 35218 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: The quiet ones...
Group: potadg Message: 35219 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Return - Austin Stoker as Jeff
Group: potadg Message: 35220 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!
Group: potadg Message: 35221 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!
Group: potadg Message: 35222 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
Group: potadg Message: 35223 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: The quiet ones...
Group: potadg Message: 35224 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!
Group: potadg Message: 35225 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: idea for comic
Group: potadg Message: 35226 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: The quiet ones...
Group: potadg Message: 35227 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
Group: potadg Message: 35228 From: Neil Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!
Group: potadg Message: 35229 From: Neil Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!
Group: potadg Message: 35230 From: Neil Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!
Group: potadg Message: 35231 From: Neil Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
Group: potadg Message: 35232 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
Group: potadg Message: 35233 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!
Group: potadg Message: 35234 From: tshaf37@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!
Group: potadg Message: 35235 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Massive DVD set from Fox in April with all 6 films and both TV seri
Group: potadg Message: 35236 From: tshaf37@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: Massive DVD set from Fox in April with all 6 films and both TV
Group: potadg Message: 35237 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: April 4rth POTA "Ultimate" collection
Group: potadg Message: 35238 From: ron kenner Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: Massive DVD set from Fox in April with all 6 films and both TV
Group: potadg Message: 35239 From: tshaf37@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: Massive DVD set from Fox in April with all 6 films and both TV
Group: potadg Message: 35240 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!
Group: potadg Message: 35241 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: Massive DVD set from Fox in April with all 6 films and both TV
Group: potadg Message: 35242 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!
Group: potadg Message: 35243 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!
Group: potadg Message: 35244 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!
Group: potadg Message: 35245 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: Massive DVD set from Fox in April with all 6 films and both TV
Group: potadg Message: 35246 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: Massive DVD set from Fox in April with all 6 films and both TV
Group: potadg Message: 35247 From: tshaf37@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: Massive DVD set from Fox in April with all 6 films and both TV
Group: potadg Message: 35248 From: patrickmichaeltilton Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
Group: potadg Message: 35249 From: ron kenner Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: Massive DVD set from Fox in April with all 6 films and both TV
Group: potadg Message: 35250 From: patrickmichaeltilton Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
Group: potadg Message: 35251 From: patrickmichaeltilton Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: The Roddy interview
Group: potadg Message: 35252 From: patrickmichaeltilton Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
Group: potadg Message: 35253 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 35254 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 35255 From: Neil T Foster Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Within the Planet of the Apes strip #85 to 88
Group: potadg Message: 35256 From: Neil Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!
Group: potadg Message: 35257 From: Neil Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
Group: potadg Message: 35258 From: Neil T Foster Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Within the Planet of the Apes strip #81 to 84
Group: potadg Message: 35259 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: Massive DVD set from Fox in April with all 6 films and both TV
Group: potadg Message: 35260 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: Massive DVD set from Fox in April with all 6 films and both TV
Group: potadg Message: 35261 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: Massive DVD set from Fox in April with all 6 films and both TV
Group: potadg Message: 35262 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: Massive DVD set from Fox in April with all 6 films and both TV
Group: potadg Message: 35263 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: Massive DVD set from Fox in April with all 6 films and both TV
Group: potadg Message: 35264 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
Group: potadg Message: 35265 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: The Roddy interview
Group: potadg Message: 35266 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
Group: potadg Message: 35267 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: Within the Planet of the Apes strip #81 to 84
Group: potadg Message: 35268 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: The Roddy interview
Group: potadg Message: 35269 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: (OT) The Roddy interview
Group: potadg Message: 35270 From: tshaf37@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: Within the Planet of the Apes strip #85 to 88
Group: potadg Message: 35271 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
Group: potadg Message: 35272 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 1/13/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself



Group: potadg Message: 35173 From: hill19652000 Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
>
> I'd like to see more of Going Home because I always like seeing
new art by Neil, but I do have to say I wasn't as excited by this
story as I was with Within.
>
> While I appreciate what you're trying to do with making the TV
series setting more mature and appealing to modern sensibilities, I
wish you'd do it without destroying or twisting the TV series
characters. If the end goal is to set up new characters/situations
for an on-going story set years after the events from the series,
then you should just start there. Or do a Battlestar Galactica-type
revamp where you take the same basic premise as the show, use some
of the original character names, and start over from the beginning.
Make Alan a woman (Allyn) if you want, or make Galen a gorilla
instead of a chimp.
>
> As far as a new group-participation comic, I have to say that I
think that comics written by committee don't usually turn out very
well. You need a singular vision behind the story, something both
writer and artist feel strongly about. If Neil wants to do a Return
story, I say let him do it. Personally, after seeing his take on
Urko that he did for the Return card set wrapper, I'd love to see
his versions of Zaius, Zira, Cornelius, Bill, Jeff, Judy, Brent and
especially Nova.
>
> Greg
>
> "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
> Any others?
>





Always good to see new stuff...
Best Graham.
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Group: potadg Message: 35174 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: The quiet ones...
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.htmlLike Dario, I too have had trouble keeping up with the volume of posts coming in. What really irks me, though, is that so many of them are off-topic (King Kong, which is NOT a Planet of the Apes movie), or are directed at a single person, or they're just crap (POTADG post count pissing contest). It isn't that there are TOO MANY posts, it's that too many of them are a WASTE OF TIME. I can understand wanting to see more activity within the group, but this blatant padding of the numbers has the opposite effect on some of us, and it should be discouraged rather than encouraged.

Anthony


On Jan 11, 2006, at 9:47 p.m., Whitty, Michael wrote:

I can understand this - some people actually leave the group because there are TOO MANY posts! :)
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Dario
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 2:22 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] The quiet ones...

I'm guilty of being one of the 'quiet ones' here on the DG of late. One of the problems with the DG being so voluminous lately has been the fact that just as I am about to catch up on the many messages, a new batch pours in the next day and by the time I sift through them, I have no time to post anything myself.
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Group: potadg Message: 35175 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
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.htmlI look at movies as a slice of someone's life in which something remarkable occurs. Zira's tale has been told.

I'd rather see a story about a new character who isn't a liberal chimp scientist, a conservative orang administrator, or a brutal gorilla soldier. How about a story about a chimpanzee criminal, an intelligent gorilla detective, and an orangutan vigilante?


On Jan 11, 2006, at 7:28 p.m., Whitty, Michael wrote:

Yes - but not enormous talking ones!

It could be a very nasty, dark tale of mean ZIRA and how an incident (well before Taylor) changes her and she becomes far more compassionate of her subjects.....
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:
> Maybe Zira could surprise us by being quite noncholant as she cuts up
> brains!

-- Brains in jars?

Neil ;-)
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Group: potadg Message: 35176 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!
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I see your point Greg.

 

Don’t forget, this story is an enormous compromise to the original story I had been toying with.  The first 5 pages of a different comic had already been drawn and Neil did not want to trash these.

 

I would have preferred to start with a future story (20 years past the original TV Show environment) and use flashbacks to show where we arrived from.

 

So…given the amount of time I had to pull something out that is set in SF instead of Texas (where I wanted it set because Alan wanted to visit home and Pete agreed more to check ANSA site), and the fact that anything you do as a team is essentially a compromise, I think it’s great!  ;)

 

But I do disagree with you – I think to respect the original series we need to see that it developed from the silly shit that it was to something sensible.  Neil agreed and it was something we were really concerned about.  And anyway, with Neil doing all the artwork we knew we could get away with anything, right?  ;)

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Plonowski
Sent: Friday, 13 January 2006 2:51 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!

 

I'd like to see more of Going Home because I always like seeing new art by Neil, but I do have to say I wasn't as excited by this story as I was with Within.

 

While I appreciate what you're trying to do with making the TV series setting more mature and appealing to modern sensibilities, I wish you'd do it without destroying or twisting the TV series characters. If the end goal is to set up new characters/situations for an on-going story set years after the events from the series, then you should just start there. Or do a Battlestar Galactica-type revamp where you take the same basic premise as the show, use some of the original character names, and start over from the beginning. Make Alan a woman (Allyn) if you want, or make Galen a gorilla instead of a chimp.

 

As far as a new group-participation comic, I have to say that I think that comics written by committee don't usually turn out very well. You need a singular vision behind the story, something both writer and artist feel strongly about. If Neil wants to do a Return story, I say let him do it. Personally, after seeing his take on Urko that he did for the Return card set wrapper, I'd love to see his versions of Zaius, Zira, Cornelius, Bill, Jeff, Judy, Brent and especially Nova.

 

Greg


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Group: potadg Message: 35177 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
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Absolutely! 

 

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony B. McElveen
Sent: Friday, 13 January 2006 7:30 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).

 

I look at movies as a slice of someone's life in which something remarkable occurs. Zira's tale has been told.

 

I'd rather see a story about a new character who isn't a liberal chimp scientist, a conservative orang administrator, or a brutal gorilla soldier. How about a story about a chimpanzee criminal, an intelligent gorilla detective, and an orangutan vigilante?

 

 

On Jan 11, 2006, at 7:28 p.m., Whitty, Michael wrote:



Yes - but not enormous talking ones!

It could be a very nasty, dark tale of mean ZIRA and how an incident (well before Taylor) changes her and she becomes far more  compassionate of her subjects......

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:
> Maybe Zira could surprise us by being quite noncholant as she cuts up
> brains!

-- Brains in jars?

Neil ;-)


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Group: potadg Message: 35178 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: The quiet ones...
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OK – point taken.

 

Yes, that WAS blatant padding and I thought it was kinda funny (that’s my sick, twisted sense of humour/irony).

 

Sorry! 

 

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Anthony B. McElveen
Sent: Friday, 13 January 2006 7:16 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] The quiet ones...

 

Like Dario, I too have had trouble keeping up with the volume of posts coming in. What really irks me, though, is that so many of them are off-topic (King Kong, which is NOT a Planet of the Apes movie), or are directed at a single person, or they're just crap (POTADG post count pissing contest). It isn't that there are TOO MANY posts, it's that too many of them are a WASTE OF TIME. I can understand wanting to see more activity within the group, but this blatant padding of the numbers has the opposite effect on some of us, and it should be discouraged rather than encouraged.

 

Anthony

 

 

On Jan 11, 2006, at 9:47 p.m., Whitty, Michael wrote:



I can understand this - some people actually leave the group because there are TOO MANY posts!  :)

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dario
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 2:22 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] The quiet ones...

I'm guilty of being one of the 'quiet ones' here on the DG of late. One of the problems with the DG being so voluminous lately has been the fact that just as I am about to catch up on the many messages, a new batch pours in the next day and by the time I sift through them, I have no time to post anything myself.

 


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Group: potadg Message: 35179 From: John Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
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I would love to refresh my memory on "Going Home" the way we did
for "Within".


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...>
> wrote:
> > Well nobody answered many of the questions - like for example this
> morning I asked about the effectiveness of the style change in
> WITHIN....
>
> -- Still waiting to find out if anyone would like to see Going Home
> from the start but with the pencils not the inked pages. (It is
inked
> up to page 10 but the rest are only pencilled so far but have had
the
> dialog added.)
>
> Neil
>
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Group: potadg Message: 35180 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: DARIO! You wanna see more GOING HOME?!?!?!?!?
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.htmlAdd me to the list of those wanting to see more.


On Jan 11, 2006, at 10:12 p.m., mlccougar@... wrote:

In a message dated 1/11/2006 10:11:35 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

YAY! That's TWO of us!


Make it three... I'd like to see how it's progressing...
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Group: potadg Message: 35181 From: John Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
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My son would love a "Return" coloring book for me to print out like
the ones on Hunter's site. What a great Idea Michael. Why don't you
get right on that? Oh, yeah. Cause all you'll have to do is come up
with some horrible captions. That ought to hold your interest too.
Smart ASS! :)



--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
>
> I think most of the unique challenges would be in keeping the
majotiry of
> the group's interest!
>
> I still say we just stick to a Return colouring book and the
pretend it does
> not exist! :)
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of
> Neil
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:56 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...>
> wrote:
> > We could do a RETURN story.
> > We could do a TV SHOW environment story.
> > Or something that pairs with the sequels to PLANET.
> > Ideas?
>
> -- As long as it features 'brains in jars' I don't mind. ;-)
>
> Seriously though, a Return story sounds interesting and would
present
> unique challenges I think.
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Group: potadg Message: 35182 From: John Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
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Yes, "Young Dr. Zaius in Love." Romance is not featured enough on the
Planet of the Apes. He can have an affair with one of his fellow
students during his rise to power. It could help explain some of his
hostilities.



--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 1/11/06 8:03:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,
tshaf37@a...
> writes:
>
>
> > I think doing a remake is stupid (EX) Tim Burtons catastrophe.
>
> Ditto. No remakes. I'd prefer alternative sequels or prequels
("Young Dr.
> Zaius, anyone?), or parallel stories -- you know, like what was
Lucius up to
> during most of PLANET?, or "Stories from the Hunt Club." That kind
of thing.
>
> -- Rory
>
> -- Rory (this would be my parallel self)
>
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Group: potadg Message: 35183 From: John Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: Batman
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HOLY IGNORANCE BATMAN!



--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
>
> STOP RIGHT THERE!
>
> You ain't gonna get me analysing BATMAN and losing the magic there
too
> buddy! ;)
>
> I thought BATMAN RETURNS was perfect - but I like my BATMAN serious
and I
> don't have any time for the campy version. Now PLEASE don't
persuade me
> otherwise....just let me live in blissful ignorance like all the
circular
> time-line theorists!
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of
> Haristas@a...
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 12:20 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Batman
>
>
> In a message dated 1/11/06 8:09:12 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> Michael.Whitty@d... writes:
>
>
>
>
> Did you see BATMAN RETURNS Rory?
>
>
>
>
>
> Yes, I did. I thought it was OK, but it got a little muddled
toward the
> end. Better than the Burton movies though, that's for sure.
>
> I still like the old Fox TV Batman better though. They were fun.
It's hard
> to take seriously a guy running around as a bat.
>
> -- Rory
>
>
>
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Group: potadg Message: 35184 From: John Date: 1/12/2006
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HELL YEAH!!!!




--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
>
> Should we have lots of blood and gore?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of
> taebokitti@a...
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 12:50 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] New GROUP Comic (interactive).
>
>
> In a message dated 1/11/2006 5:40:39 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> Michael.Whitty@d... writes:
>
> That's what I am thinking - she seems to think humans are animals
except for
> the talking ones (who eventually kill her - ANIMALS!)!
>
> Am I wrong?
>
> Michael
>
> I think she is fascinated with humans but becomes smitten with
Taylor. He is
> not the human she normally studies. Elaine
>
>
>
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Group: potadg Message: 35185 From: John Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: The quiet ones...
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I don't think they'd take it seriously coming from me. I'm a trouble
maker. :)


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
<Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
>
> Point taken Dario.
>
> I believe the only future for POTA is in the unity of the fans.
>
> Sadly, silly squabbles keep the fans apart.
>
> I am not making it an "us vs them", but as I always do - when
someone gets
> competitive with me, I slap them down. Or should I say, we slap
each other.
>
> Actually, if people would like to mention the new comics project to
other
> groups, I'd love to have Helen, James, Glen, Menluth, "our good
fiends (sic)
> at Scrolls" and all the other "splitters" (term of endearment
there!) join
> in and have some fun as a unified group. I'm going to bet none of
them take
> me up on the offer, but that's simply because some people thrive on
the
> split. Hope I am wrong!
>
> Could someone who is in the POTA group extend this offer please
(2:1 they
> don't even allow the post to go through!).
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On
Behalf Of
> Dario
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 2:22 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] The quiet ones...
>
>
> Michael, the success of the DG is great and we do owe you our
gratitude for
> keeping it alive and proding us now and then. But please, do not let
> 'message counts' and an "us verses them" attitude to disparage the
other
> groups. We know there there is some bad history and some bad
feeling amongst
> some members, but bringing it out in the open on this DG just
tarnishes it's
> own fine reputation. Don't make me quote Burton's POTA by
saying "Can't we
> all just learn to live together?" (Damn, now I'm quoting Burton
POTA!).
>
>
>
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Group: potadg Message: 35186 From: tshaf37@aol.com Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
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In a message dated 1/12/2006 2:31:41 PM Central Standard Time, abmac@... writes:
I look at movies as a slice of someone's life in which something remarkable occurs. Zira's tale has been told.

I'd rather see a story about a new character who isn't a liberal chimp scientist, a conservative orang administrator, or a brutal gorilla soldier. How about a story about a chimpanzee criminal, an intelligent gorilla detective, and an orangutan vigilante?
How about a war among the apes. I realize ape shall never kill ape but that hardly seemed so with Aldo and Urko.
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Group: potadg Message: 35188 From: Neil T Foster Date: 1/12/2006
Subject: Within the Planet of the Apes strip #77 to 80
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    Group: potadg Message: 35189 From: Neil Date: 1/12/2006
    Subject: Re: FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!
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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
    > While I appreciate what you're trying to do with making the TV
    series setting more mature and appealing to modern sensibilities, I
    wish you'd do it without destroying or twisting the TV series
    characters.

    -- Sorry but we really did want to make this story more 'adult' than
    the TV show and set up a clean break to start afresh without the
    lame cop out of 'a few years later...'
    I for one will not do the same old (ultimately) boring formula TV
    show type stories.

    > If the end goal is to set up new characters/situations for an on-
    going story set years after the events from the series, then you
    should just start there. Or do a Battlestar Galactica-type revamp
    where you take the same basic premise as the show, use some of the
    original character names, and start over from the beginning. Make
    Alan a woman (Allyn) if you want, or make Galen a gorilla instead of
    a chimp.

    -- To me this is an even worse way to go! I for one hated the 'new'
    BG and the changing of certain characters' sex just to make it 'new'
    Why bother doing that, why not just start with totally original
    characters? We want new characters in our coming stories plus we
    also wanted some sort of closure for the current characters.

    > As far as a new group-participation comic, I have to say that I
    think that comics written by committee don't usually turn out very
    well. You need a singular vision behind the story, something both
    writer and artist feel strongly about.

    -- The reason we want to do it this way is because we want to try
    something different for once, which sadly seems to be something that
    some Apes fans don't want, just like some can't stand to see things
    changed or done differently from what is 'cannon' which is fair
    enough but I for one embrace change or we just stagnate.

    > If Neil wants to do a Return story, I say let him do it.

    -- I must admit I did mention Return slightly in jest, yes it is
    something I would find interesting to do but I know we can't as
    there will be howls of protest, you know there will!

    Neil
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    Group: potadg Message: 35190 From: Neil Date: 1/12/2006
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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Anthony B. McElveen" <abmac@i...>
    wrote:
    > I'd rather see a story about a new character who isn't a liberal
    > chimp scientist, a conservative orang administrator, or a brutal
    > gorilla soldier. How about a story about a chimpanzee criminal, an
    > intelligent gorilla detective, and an orangutan vigilante?

    -- I agree Anthony, I would really prefer to be doing something with
    an original character(s) and not confined to what we already know like
    yet another story set in Ape city for example.
    I would really much rather be doing something like Marvel's 'Terror'
    story (and no I don't mean with mush faced mutants and brains in jars
    before you all attack me!) set on another part of the Planet of the
    Apes or in the times after Battle and before Planet where we could
    really do something new and different.

    Neil
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    Group: potadg Message: 35191 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/12/2006
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    Neil and I have been working on the RETURN Colouring book for a while.....
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of John
    Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 8:01 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).

    My son would love a "Return" coloring book for me to print out like
    the ones on Hunter's site. What a great Idea Michael. Why don't you
    get right on that? Oh, yeah. Cause all you'll have to do is come up
    with some horrible captions. That ought to hold your interest too.
    Smart ASS!  :)



    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
    <Michael.Whitty@d...> wrote:
    >
    > I think most of the unique challenges would be in keeping the
    majotiry of
    > the group's interest!
    >
    > I still say we just stick to a Return colouring book and the
    pretend it does
    > not exist!  :)
    >
    > Michael
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On
    Behalf Of
    > Neil
    > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:56 AM
    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
    >
    >
    > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
    <Michael.Whitty@d...>
    > wrote:
    > > We could do a RETURN story.
    > > We could do a TV SHOW environment story.
    > > Or something that pairs with the sequels to PLANET.
    > > Ideas?
    >
    > -- As long as it features 'brains in jars' I don't mind. ;-)
    >
    > Seriously though, a Return story sounds interesting and would
    present
    > unique challenges I think.
    >
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    Group: potadg Message: 35192 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/12/2006
    Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
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    Nooooooo!!!!!
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of John
    Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 8:06 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).

    Yes, "Young Dr. Zaius in Love." Romance is not featured enough on the
    Planet of the Apes. He can have an affair with one of his fellow
    students during his rise to power. It could help explain some of his
    hostilities.



    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
    >
    > In a message dated 1/11/06 8:03:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,
    tshaf37@a...
    > writes:
    >
    >
    > >  I think doing a remake is stupid (EX) Tim Burtons catastrophe.
    >
    > Ditto.  No remakes.  I'd prefer alternative sequels or prequels
    ("Young Dr.
    > Zaius, anyone?), or parallel stories -- you know, like what was
    Lucius up to
    > during most of PLANET?, or "Stories from the Hunt Club."  That kind
    of thing.
    >
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    Group: potadg Message: 35193 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/12/2006
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     > Ever notice PLANET has nothing but cuts?  No fades or dissolves. 
    Well, there is one dissolve.  Can anyone guess where it is?

    -- Is it at the end where the final scene fades to the credits?

    Neil
     
    No, that would be a "Fade to Black."  The dissolve(s) (and are guess there are actually two) are at the beginning and end of the main credits.
     
    -- Rory
     



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    Group: potadg Message: 35194 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/12/2006
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    THEN GO DO IT!!!   LESS TALK, MORE ACTION!!!
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Neil <nfoster@...>
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 22:26:17 -0000
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).

    --- In 
    PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Anthony B. McElveen" <abmac@i...> 
    wrote:
    
    > I'd rather see a story about a new character who isn't a liberal > chimp scientist, a conservative orang administrator, or a brutal > gorilla soldier. How about a story about a chimpanzee criminal, an > intelligent gorilla detective, and an orangutan vigilante?
    -- I agree Anthony, I would really prefer to be doing something with an original character(s) and not confined to what we already know like yet another story set in Ape city for example. I would really much rather be doing something like Marvel's 'Terror' story (and no I don't mean with mush faced mutants and brains in jars before you all attack me!) set on another part of the Planet of the Apes or in the times after Battle and before Planet where we could really do something new and different. Neil Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: PotaDG-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*>
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    Group: potadg Message: 35195 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/12/2006
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    And not the sort of "closure" that I predict WOULD have been forthcoming had the show gone on a few seasons and actually had a conclusion (ie they all live happily ever after - or the same old get back to earth but it is already run by apes).
     
    Michael
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil
    Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 9:15 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!

    -- To me this is an even worse way to go! I for one hated the 'new'
    BG and the changing of certain characters' sex just to make it 'new'
    Why bother doing that, why not just start with totally original
    characters? We want new characters in our coming stories plus we
    also wanted some sort of closure for the current characters.
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    Group: potadg Message: 35196 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/12/2006
    Subject: FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!
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    We'd become the laughing stock of ape fandom!  :)
     
    Michael
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil
    Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 9:15 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!

    -- I must admit I did mention Return slightly in jest, yes it is
    something I would find interesting to do but I know we can't as
    there will be howls of protest, you know there will!

    Neil
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    Group: potadg Message: 35197 From: Neil Date: 1/12/2006
    Subject: Re: FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!
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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
    wrote:
    > We'd become the laughing stock of ape fandom! :)

    -- Maybe, maybe not. The cartoon did have an okay storyline to start
    with but revamped and made more 'adult' I'm sure something decent
    could be done with those characters (but not that stupid dragon bird
    thing!).

    Neil
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    Group: potadg Message: 35198 From: Neil Date: 1/12/2006
    Subject: Re: FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!
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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
    wrote:
    > And not the sort of "closure" that I predict WOULD have been
    forthcoming had the show gone on a few seasons and actually had a
    conclusion (ie they all live happily ever after - or the same old get
    back to earth but it is already run by apes).

    -- Much as I loved the TV show when I was a kid and the impact it had
    on my life at the time (which still lingers today) I like you can
    hardly bring myself to watch it these days.

    Also what we wanted to do with going Home was to drag it out of
    the '70s and make it current for now, not the same old 'someone gets
    captured by the Apes and the other 2 free said captive' etc. etc.
    How many different ways of doing that can you do before it becomes
    boring, say about 14 or so?

    Neil
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    Group: potadg Message: 35199 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/12/2006
    Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
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    In a message dated 1/12/2006 2:32:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, abmac@... writes:
    I look at movies as a slice of someone's life in which something remarkable occurs. Zira's tale has been told.
     
    Personally I disagree with that.. 
    There's a lot there to work with.
    But if it's going to be a TV Show
    comic, I'd prefer not to elaborate.
    I don't my ideas thrown into a
    Cuisinart and blended into a
    mishmash of POTA puree.
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 35200 From: hill19652000 Date: 1/12/2006
    Subject: Re: FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!
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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:
    >
    > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
    <Michael.Whitty@d...>
    > wrote:
    > > We'd become the laughing stock of ape fandom! :)
    >
    > -- Maybe, maybe not. The cartoon did have an okay storyline to start
    > with but revamped and made more 'adult' I'm sure something decent
    > could be done with those characters (but not that stupid dragon bird
    > thing!).
    >
    > Neil
    >


    I still think it'd be a good idea, yes the cartoon show was a bit of
    fluff for kids (Like most 70's cartoons,sorry make that all!! ) I just
    think it'd be an interesting environment to play with. I've always
    thought that the juxaposition of "modern" technology with apes works
    really well on an iconic level. (Come on Michael even you wanted to
    buy A Monkey Planet comic. ) Think of all those jeeps ,planes ... and
    explosions you could draw Neil :) Having read far to many comics over
    the years often it's the exacution of a strip that stays with people
    not the initial concept, a man turned in to a swamp creature not
    exactly the highest of literary ideas yet Alan Moore made it work in
    his 80's run on Swampthing. I'll even do a painting of Austin Stoker
    as Jeff to go with it !! ( it is Jeff isn't it? you see I don't even
    know the characters names, I mean a grown man of 40 watching a
    cartoon, :) )
    Best Graham.
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    Group: potadg Message: 35201 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/12/2006
    Subject: Re: The quiet ones...
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    .html.html In a message dated 1/12/06 3:18:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, abmac@... writes:


    It isn't that there are TOO MANY posts, it's that too many of them are a WASTE OF TIME. I can understand wanting to see more activity within the group, but this blatant padding of the numbers has the opposite effect on some of us, and it should be discouraged rather than encouraged.

    Anthony

    I agree.  In fact, I simply delete most posts (which is why I miss some things), but I simply don't have the time to read everything.

    -- Rory
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    Group: potadg Message: 35202 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 1/12/2006
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    Brains!!! Brains!!!! Brains!!!!!  I want more Brains!!!
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    Group: potadg Message: 35203 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/12/2006
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    .html.html Go to this link.  Interesting article.  Read what it says about Fox, then let's hear what you think.

    http://www.calendarlive.com/movies/cl-et-goldstein10jan10,0,1442930.column?coll=cl-movies-top-right

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    Group: potadg Message: 35204 From: Neil Date: 1/12/2006
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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@a... wrote:
    > I agree. In fact, I simply delete most posts (which is why I miss
    some things), but I simply don't have the time to read everything.

    -- Well maybe if a few more contributed to the discussions there would
    be less 'padding' and BS.

    I have seen many posts or interesting questions die a quick death due
    to the lack of responses and participation. It's a bit of a vicious
    circle I'm afarid.

    Neil
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    Group: potadg Message: 35205 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/12/2006
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    I could do some stats on OT and nonsensical posts if you want - I think you will find about 1/10 are just one-line responses or OT  last month and overall about 1/40.
     
    I wonder if this post would count?  :)
     
    Seriously, if people could bring our attention to specific offending posts we could do something about it.
     
    King Kong could have spelled a great future for POTA, so really I don't think it counts.
     
    AND - many of the KK posts deal generally with the broader question of IF there will ever be a good POTA movie (re-)made....not all that OT and helps us all to see what each other wants in a new movie.
     
    Rory, you would have read ALL the KING KONG posts, and written 50% of them buddy!

    Michael
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
    Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 11:43 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: The quiet ones...

    In a message dated 1/12/06 3:18:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, abmac@... writes:


    It isn't that there are TOO MANY posts, it's that too many of them are a WASTE OF TIME. I can understand wanting to see more activity within the group, but this blatant padding of the numbers has the opposite effect on some of us, and it should be discouraged rather than encouraged.

    Anthony

    I agree.  In fact, I simply delete most posts (which is why I miss some things), but I simply don't have the time to read everything.

    -- Rory
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    Group: potadg Message: 35206 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/12/2006
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    Well so far I am excited about doing something involving a gorilla who is very different to his peers, something about an orangutan named Lazarus and a young Zira.
     
    WITHIN managed to show a few different things happening then coming together.
     
    I suggest we attempt this.
     
    All in favour?  Those against?
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil
    Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 10:10 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!

    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
    wrote:
    > We'd become the laughing stock of ape fandom!  :)

    -- Maybe, maybe not. The cartoon did have an okay storyline to start
    with but revamped and made more 'adult' I'm sure something decent
    could be done with those characters (but not that stupid dragon bird
    thing!).

    Neil
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    Group: potadg Message: 35207 From: Neil Date: 1/12/2006
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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@a... wrote:
    >
    > Go to this link. Interesting article. Read what it says about Fox,
    then
    > let's hear what you think.
    >
    >
    > http://www.calendarlive.com/movies/cl-et-
    goldstein10jan10,0,1442930.column?coll=cl-movies-top-right

    -- I think this says nothing about POTA which is what people on the
    group have just been complaining about!

    Neil
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    Group: potadg Message: 35208 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/12/2006
    Subject: Re: The quiet ones...
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    .html.html In a message dated 1/12/06 7:57:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:


    Rory, you would have read ALL the KING KONG posts, and written 50% of them buddy!

    Michael



    I see KK as related to POTA and when it was something everyone was going out to see I was into it then.  Kind of tired now.

    -- Rory
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    Group: potadg Message: 35209 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/12/2006
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    -- Well maybe if a few more contributed to the discussions there would
    be less 'padding' and BS.

    I have seen many posts or interesting questions die a quick death due
    to the lack of responses and participation. It's a bit of a vicious
    circle I'm afarid.

    Neil



    What bugs me most is when I open a post it it's just a one word response to something, especially something stupid.  I do it myself too often, but I don't like it and it's what eventually starts my delete button going.

    -- Rory
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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
    wrote:
    > Well so far I am excited about doing something involving a gorilla
    who is very different to his peers, something about an orangutan named
    Lazarus and a young Zira.

    -- I say we steer clear of known characters unless they are just
    mentioned by name. Really the most interesting parts of their stories
    have been told already.

    Neil
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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
    >
    > Go to this link.  Interesting article.  Read what it says about Fox,
    then
    > let's hear what you think.
    >

    > http://www.calendarlive.com/movies/cl-et-
    goldstein10jan10,0,1442930.column?coll=cl-movies-top-right

    -- I think this says nothing about POTA which is what people on the
    group have just been complaining about!

    Neil


    Fox is kind of POTA related.  Knowing the studio that holds the rights to it is kind of important.

    -- Rory
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    Group: potadg Message: 35212 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 1/12/2006
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    But you are getrting the point about OT - it is difficult to define!
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
    Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 12:05 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Read this!

    In a message dated 1/12/06 8:01:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:


    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
    >
    > Go to this link.  Interesting article.  Read what it says about Fox,
    then
    > let's hear what you think.
    >

    > http://www.calendarlive.com/movies/cl-et-
    goldstein10jan10,0,1442930.column?coll=cl-movies-top-right

    -- I think this says nothing about POTA which is what people on the
    group have just been complaining about!

    Neil


    Fox is kind of POTA related.  Knowing the studio that holds the rights to it is kind of important.

    -- Rory
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    Again, this is a hard one.
     
    Most of us like to get A response - so I often just type in "agreed" or SOMETHING.
     
    But I also get annopyed when I open a post to read something new and I read "YEAH!"
     
    Michael
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    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
    Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 12:01 PM
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    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: The quiet ones...

    In a message dated 1/12/06 7:55:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:


    -- Well maybe if a few more contributed to the discussions there would
    be less 'padding' and BS.

    I have seen many posts or interesting questions die a quick death due
    to the lack of responses and participation. It's a bit of a vicious
    circle I'm afarid.

    Neil



    What bugs me most is when I open a post it it's just a one word response to something, especially something stupid.  I do it myself too often, but I don't like it and it's what eventually starts my delete button going.

    -- Rory
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    In a message dated 1/12/2006 6:51:55 P.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:
    Go to this link.  Interesting article.  Read what it says about Fox, then let's hear what you think.
     
    Penny pinching bastards?
    Yeah, that sounds about right.
     
     
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    In a message dated 1/12/2006 7:04:40 P.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:
    I see KK as related to POTA
     
    Both had gorillas,
     
    and didn't perform as well as expected
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    In a message dated 1/12/2006 7:12:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:
    and a young Zira.

    -- I say we steer clear of known characters unless they are just
    mentioned by name
     
    Because they're harder to draw.
     
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    In a message dated 1/12/2006 7:38:09 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
    But I also get annopyed when I open a post to read something new and I read "YEAH!"
     
    Yeah
     
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    In a message dated 1/12/2006 7:05:30 P.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:
    What bugs me most is when I open a post it it's just a one word response to something
     
    yeah
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    That would be very cool, Graham. I'd love to see that. And yes, Austin Stoker did the voice of Jeff in the cartoon.
     
    Hmm. Who would be good life models for Bill and Judy? You could use Linda Harrison for Nova, obviously.
     
    Greg

    hill19652000 <shop@...> wrote:
    I'll even do a painting of Austin Stoker
    as Jeff to go with it !! ( it is Jeff isn't it? you see I don't even
    know the characters names, I mean a grown man of 40 watching a
    cartoon, :) )
    Best Graham.
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    Group: potadg Message: 35220 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 1/12/2006
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    > -- Sorry but we really did want to make this story more 'adult' than
    the TV show and set up a clean break to start afresh without the
    lame cop out of 'a few years later...'
    I for one will not do the same old (ultimately) boring formula TV
    show type stories.
    I think there's been enough TV series fan fiction done that shows you don't have to recycle the same old plots from the shows to do interesting stories with the characters. Just having the unlimited FX budget that a comic book would have gives you the opportunity to explore more of the world the series was set in.
     
    For me, the TV show is a nostalgia thing. I still enjoy watching those shows, and I judge fan fiction and other projects that use those characters on how well they capture the feel of the shows. I liked the beginning of Going Home because the characters looked and felt right. But Michael's told me enough about what's coming that I'm not looking forward to the rest of it as much. I still want to see it because I know it will at least look amazing, and I can keep an open mind to the story.
     
    > -- To me this is an even worse way to go! I for one hated the 'new'
    BG and the changing of certain characters' sex just to make it 'new'
    Why bother doing that, why not just start with totally original
    characters? We want new characters in our coming stories plus we
    also wanted some sort of closure for the current characters.
    I like the new BG. I liked the original BG, but I like the new one a little bit more. Luckily having the one doesn't wipe the other out of existence and I have the DVDs for both next to each other on a shelf. (And if we didn't have the new BG we'd likely still be waiting for DVDs of the original BG, I suspect.)
     
    There's a very simple reason why they didn't develop completely new characters. It's called marketing. Using the original name, characters and basic concept gets you an audience that will at least sample the show because it's familiar. That's why we were all hoping Kong would be a huge blockbuster hit, because it would make it easier  for Fox to market a new Apes movie.
     
    > -- The reason we want to do it this way is because we want to try
    something different for once, which sadly seems to be something that
    some Apes fans don't want, just like some can't stand to see things
    changed or done differently from what is 'cannon' which is fair
    enough but I for one embrace change or we just stagnate.
    Again, I approach Apes from a point of nostalgia, so for me stagnating isn't so bad, although I do appreciate some aspects of Apes, particularly the original film, more now that I'm older.
     
    A story doesn't need to be canon for me to enjoy it. I've read some fan fictions I've enjoyed even though they didn't fit into my personal view of the timeline. I actually like Patrick's mothership theory (and I really like the way he looks at the TV series, even shuffling the order of the episodes somewhat so that they make a better through-line for Virdon's character arc), although for me his version of the Apes saga sits in a separate universe, like Return.
     
    > -- I must admit I did mention Return slightly in jest, yes it is
    something I would find interesting to do but I know we can't as
    there will be howls of protest, you know there will!
    Let them howl. If you find it interesting and it's what you want to draw, then I'd rather see that. There have been umpteen different versions of what ultimately happened to the fugitives. Nobody's ever suggested what happened when Bill and Cornelius got back from the ice mountain with that ancient human picture book.
     
    Greg
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 35221 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 1/12/2006
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    In a message dated 1/12/2006 7:52:44 AM Pacific Standard Time, urko3085@... writes:
    I'd like to see more of Going Home because I always like seeing new art by Neil, but I do have to say I wasn't as excited by this story as I was with Within.
     
    While I appreciate what you're trying to do with making the TV series setting more mature and appealing to modern sensibilities, I wish you'd do it without destroying or twisting the TV series characters. If the end goal is to set up new characters/situations for an on-going story set years after the events from the series, then you should just start there. Or do a Battlestar Galactica-type revamp where you take the same basic premise as the show, use some of the original character names, and start over from the beginning. Make Alan a woman (Allyn) if you want, or make Galen a gorilla instead of a chimp.
     
    As far as a new group-participation comic, I have to say that I think that comics written by committee don't usually turn out very well. You need a singular vision behind the story, something both writer and artist feel strongly about. If Neil wants to do a Return story, I say let him do it. Personally, after seeing his take on Urko that he did for the Return card set wrapper, I'd love to see his versions of Zaius, Zira, Cornelius, Bill, Jeff, Judy, Brent and especially Nova.
     
    Greg
    I have to agree with Greg here. I am not interested in a TV story unless it is totally revamped like Battlestar Galactica or stay with the same characters and have new stories. Elaine

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    In a message dated 1/12/2006 3:26:31 PM Pacific Standard Time, LordTZer0@... writes:
    In a message dated 1/12/2006 2:32:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, abmac@... writes:
    I look at movies as a slice of someone's life in which something remarkable occurs. Zira's tale has been told.
     
    Personally I disagree with that.. 
    There's a lot there to work with.
    But if it's going to be a TV Show
    comic, I'd prefer not to elaborate.
    I don't my ideas thrown into a
    Cuisinart and blended into a
    mishmash of POTA puree.
     
    • I think a Zira story is the way to go. She deserves some writing devoted to her. Elaine
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    Group: potadg Message: 35223 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 1/12/2006
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    In a message dated 1/12/2006 7:09:11 PM Pacific Standard Time, LordTZer0@... writes:
    In a message dated 1/12/2006 7:05:30 P.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:
    What bugs me most is when I open a post it it's just a one word response to something
     
    yeah


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    Group: potadg Message: 35224 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 1/12/2006
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    In a message dated 1/12/2006 4:57:12 PM Pacific Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:
    Well so far I am excited about doing something involving a gorilla who is very different to his peers, something about an orangutan named Lazarus and a young Zira.
     
    WITHIN managed to show a few different things happening then coming together.
     
    I suggest we attempt this.
     
    All in favour?  Those against?
    This sounds good to me. Elaine
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    Group: potadg Message: 35225 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 1/12/2006
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    I think having a discussion group of middle aged pota fans somehow land on pota would make an interesting comic. The apes would be totally baffled on how to deal with humans who babble on and on about various aspects of their world and civilization and other unrelated topics would be a challenge to rise to.
     
    The apes are use to humans who fear them but what about humans who worship them. And in a way we do. This changes everything for the apes. What would Zaius do if he found an action figure of himself? How would Ursus react to seeing himself in a comic?
     
    In a way, we are a cult, the cult of the apes. We are seeking a better society and the apes may have the answer. Whoops, I knocked over my glass of wine. Elaine 
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    Group: potadg Message: 35226 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
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    .html.html In a message dated 1/12/2006 11:38:53 PM Central Standard Time, taebokitti@... writes:

    In a message dated 1/12/2006 7:09:11 PM Pacific Standard Time, LordTZer0@... writes:

    In a message dated 1/12/2006 7:05:30 P.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

    What bugs me most is when I open a post it it's just a one word response to something



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    Group: potadg Message: 35227 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/13/2006
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    In a message dated 1/12/2006 11:36:37 P.M. Central Standard Time, taebokitti@... writes:
    I think a Zira story is the way to go. She deserves some writing devoted to her. Elaine
     
    I have some thoughts on that.  And I would share them.
    But part of the fun of the comic is watching the story develop.
    If we all already know what the story is, then it's just a matter
    of waiting to see it drawn.  Where's the fun in that?
     
     
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 35228 From: Neil Date: 1/13/2006
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    In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , LordTZer0@A... wrote:
    > Because they're harder to draw.

    -- No exactly the opposite actually it is much easier to draw the
    known characters as there is so much reference material. Much harder
    to draw an original character.

    Neil
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    Group: potadg Message: 35229 From: Neil Date: 1/13/2006
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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
    > There's a very simple reason why they didn't develop completely new
    characters. It's called marketing. Using the original name, characters
    and basic concept gets you an audience that will at least sample the
    show because it's familiar. That's why we were all hoping Kong would
    be a huge blockbuster hit, because it would make it easier for Fox to
    market a new Apes movie.

    -- I know it was all about marketing and using the familiar names but
    it still dosen't make it any better does it? My god what ever happened
    to imagination?

    Neil
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    Group: potadg Message: 35230 From: Neil Date: 1/13/2006
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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , taebokitti@a... wrote:
    > I have to agree with Greg here. I am not interested in a TV story
    unless it is totally revamped like Battlestar Galactica or stay with
    the same characters and have new stories.

    -- And what the hell do you people think we are doing with Going Home
    then?!

    Neil
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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , LordTZer0@A... wrote:
    > I have some thoughts on that. And I would share them.
    > But part of the fun of the comic is watching the story develop.
    > If we all already know what the story is, then it's just a matter
    > of waiting to see it drawn. Where's the fun in that?

    -- Yeah, spoils my fun in it every time.

    Neil
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    Group: potadg Message: 35232 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/13/2006
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    In a message dated 1/13/2006 4:17:29 A.M. Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:
    -- Yeah, spoils my fun in it every time.
     
    Well I know someone who can draw.
    Maybe I can talk her into doing it
    so you can have one to read this time.
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 35233 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 1/13/2006
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    I think this is something where we're going to have to agree to disagree. I think the new BG is better, and I'm glad Sci-Fi decided to revive the property and hired Ron Moore to do it. I can understand why some fans of the original may be upset with the new show, but as I see it that's their loss, because it's a good show. And it's not like the new show started by killing off some of the original characters, turning them insane or turning heroes into villains. You're free to imagine for yourself what happened to the original characters (or read Richard Hatch's books that continue the storyline from the original series).
     
    I don't mean to turn this into a whole thread on BG. I was merely trying to hold up the new BG as an example of a revamp that I think was done right, as opposed to Burton's 2001 film, which I think a majority of us feel was done badly. Many people here (including yourself, if I'm not mistaken) would like to see Fox make new Apes movies. Wouldn't that fall into the 'lack of imagination' column? Why do a new Apes comic? Why not something completely original?
     
    Greg
     

    Neil <nfoster@...> wrote:
    -- I know it was all about marketing and using the familiar names but
    it still dosen't make it any better does it? My god what ever happened
    to imagination?

    Neil
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    Group: potadg Message: 35234 From: tshaf37@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
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    In a message dated 1/13/2006 4:15:10 AM Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:
    -- I know it was all about marketing and using the familiar names but
    it still dosen't make it any better does it? My god what ever happened
    to imagination?
    I think Hollywood is completely out of ideas' and has no imagination these days so they promote Trash like Michael Moore propaganda films now.
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    Group: potadg Message: 35235 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 1/13/2006
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    Just saw this on www.tvshowsondvd.com
     
     
    For those who don't want to click on the link, Fox will be releasing a Ultimate Planet of the Apes box set which will contain the original 5 films, the 2001 film, the 1974 TV series and the 1975 animated series, released on commercial DVD for the first time.
     
    The site doesn't have news on whether or not Fox will be releasing the animated series separately or not.
     
    Greg
     
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 35236 From: tshaf37@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
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    Group: potadg Message: 35237 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 1/13/2006
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      Once again, let's soak the fans. www.tvshowsondvd.com reports that soon Fox will release an "ultimate" collection of all the POTA films (including the Burton remake), that's 6 discs, plus the TV show, that's 4 more, plus for the first time, the "Return to the POTA" cartoon, that's 2 more, plus 2 bonus discs of "Behind the POTA" and the extra disc from POTA2001. Yes, a 14 disc set. Looks like there's nothing new for the sequels as fans werre speculating. Are fans going to pay again for all this just to get the cartoons? Not me. If Fox went to the trouble of getting the original version of "Conquest" or something, I'll probably bite. But I doubt they did. So once again a POTA product is designed to soak the fans and it won't do well and they'll say, "See? There's no interest in POTA".
      The article reports this is being released to take advantage of the DVD release of Peter Jackson's "King Kong" in late March. And I thought Fox was doing this to make an artistic statement. 
                                                           - - - Jeff
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    Group: potadg Message: 35238 From: ron kenner Date: 1/13/2006
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    was it a bootleg of hunter's release?
    because if so, i doubt the "official" release will be of much higher quality.

    tshaf37@... wrote:
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    Group: potadg Message: 35239 From: tshaf37@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
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    In a message dated 1/13/2006 9:57:16 AM Central Standard Time, brindlepit2002@... writes:
    was it a bootleg of hunter's release?
    because if so, i doubt the "official" release will be of much higher quality.

    tshaf37@... wrote:
    Damn it man I knew if I bought the Cartoon series from E-bay fox would release them.
    No, it was from Hunter. I bought a version from E-bay 2 years ago and the quality was total garbage. The guy should have been smacked for selling me such a trashed copy for 50 Bucks. I got Hunters in August and the quality was great. The only reason I took a chance on it was because a month before I got the uncut version of Battle and it's crystal clear.
    Oh well-you win some lose some I guess.
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    Group: potadg Message: 35240 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/13/2006
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    In a message dated 1/13/2006 8:15:30 A.M. Central Standard Time, urko3085@... writes:
    (or read Richard Hatch's books that continue the storyline from the original series).
     
    I don't mean to turn this into a whole thread on BG.
     
    BG?  What's that?  Bing Gong?
    Isn't Richard Hatch the naked dude from Survivor?
     
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    In a message dated 1/13/2006 9:33:38 A.M. Central Standard Time, tshaf37@... writes:
    Damn it man I knew if I bought the Cartoon series from E-bay fox would release them.
     
    Yeah, for $135 bucks!
    Does this include the extended Behind doco?
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 35242 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 1/13/2006
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    BG = Battlestar Galactica. Richard Hatch (not the Survivor dude) played Captain Apollo in the original show and has a recurring role in the new version as a former political prisoner turned politician. For years he tried to get a revival of the original show launched. He's written comics and novels (with various co-writers) that continue the storyline of the original show.
     
    To keep this on-topic slightly, I've long thought that if Ron Harper wanted to write (or co-write) novels continuing the storyline of the TV series, he might be able to find an interested publisher because his involvement would be a good marketing hook.
     
    Greg

    LordTZer0@... wrote:
    BG?  What's that?  Bing Gong?
    Isn't Richard Hatch the naked dude from Survivor?
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 35243 From: LordTZer0@AOL.com Date: 1/13/2006
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    In a message dated 1/13/2006 1:19:33 P.M. Central Standard Time, urko3085@... writes:
    BG = Battlestar Galactica.
    I liked it when it came out because the ships
    were very Star Wars like.  Not so much now.
    I watch the new one when it was a marathon.
    I enjoyed it, but not enough to watch it again.
     
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 35244 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
    Subject: Re: FOUR OF US want to see more GOING HOME!
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    In a message dated 1/13/2006 10:00:04 AM Pacific Standard Time, LordTZer0@... writes:
    In a message dated 1/13/2006 8:15:30 A.M. Central Standard Time, urko3085@... writes:
    (or read Richard Hatch's books that continue the storyline from the original series).
     
    I don't mean to turn this into a whole thread on BG.
     
    BG?  What's that?  Bing Gong?
    Isn't Richard Hatch the naked dude from Survivor?
     


    •  He would fit right in on pota. Elaine
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    Group: potadg Message: 35245 From: Michael Whitty Date: 1/13/2006
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    It says the first films and the remake WILL EACH HAVE A BONUS DISC.

     

    This means Beneath, Escape, Conquest and Battle will have bonus discs.

     

    So it is possible that these extra discs will include alternative CONQUEST and Extended Battle.

     

    And what would be on a bonus disc for Beneath and Escape?  One would assume some deleted scenes somewhere!

    Michael

     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of LordTZer0@...
    Sent: Saturday, 14 January 2006 5:03 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Massive DVD set from Fox in April with all 6 films and both TV s...

     

    In a message dated 1/13/2006 9:33:38 A.M. Central Standard Time, tshaf37@... writes:

    Damn it man I knew if I bought the Cartoon series from E-bay fox would release them.

     

    Yeah, for $135 bucks!

    Does this include the extended Behind doco?

     

     


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    Group: potadg Message: 35246 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 1/13/2006
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    It's badly worded, but I believe what it means is that there will be one bonus disc for the original 5 films and one bonus disc for the 2001 film for a grand total of 2 bonus discs (as noted in the third paragraph). Hopefully the bonus disc for the classic films is the bonus disc from the 35th anniversary release and not the bonus disc from the Evolution box set.
     
    Last month Digital Bits (www.digitalbits.com ) noted that Fox was working on single-disc releases of the sequel films. Hopefully those discs will be remastered with extras, or at least remastered. Or at least anamorphic. Also hopefully it will be those discs, and not the discs from the Evolution box set, that will be included in the Ultimate box set.
     
    There's a lot of 'hopefully' in that above paragraph. Guess we'll just have to wait for more info to show up on the various DVD news sites.
     
    Greg 

    Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:
    It says the first films and the remake WILL EACH HAVE A BONUS DISC.
     
    This means Beneath, Escape, Conquest and Battle will have bonus discs.
     
    So it is possible that these extra discs will include alternative CONQUEST and Extended Battle.
     
    And what would be on a bonus disc for Beneath and Escape?  One would assume some deleted scenes somewhere!

    Michael
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 35247 From: tshaf37@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
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    In a message dated 1/13/2006 2:32:38 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

    It says the first films and the remake WILL EACH HAVE A BONUS DISC.

     

    This means Beneath, Escape, Conquest and Battle will have bonus discs.

     

    So it is possible that these extra discs will include alternative CONQUEST and Extended Battle.

     

    And what would be on a bonus disc for Beneath and Escape?  One would assume some deleted scenes somewhere!

    I've read somewhere There is cut parts of Beneath that were filmed under water and Escape has a view from the front of the ship where the Earth explodes. Maybe it could be just that? I just know if I buy this POTA Legacy set my wife is going to go Ape shit on me!
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    Group: potadg Message: 35248 From: patrickmichaeltilton Date: 1/13/2006
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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@a... wrote:
    >
    > In a message dated 1/10/06 12:55:28 AM Eastern Standard Time,
    > mlccougar@a... writes:
    >
    >
    > > First of all, if you're so absolutely sure that Dehn meant it
    that the Apes-timeline is circular, with NO CHANCE of the future
    being altered in ANY WAY, then why would he have TWO of his
    characters (Hasslein in ESCAPE, and Virgil in BATTLE) say
    approximately the same thing: That by "switching lanes, you can
    change the future?" Surely by having it stated in two of his scripts,
    he MUST have at least SOME HOPE that the future can be altered?
    >
    > Yeah, answer that, Patrick! You big know-it-all!!!
    >
    > -- Rory

    ------------------------------------------------------------

    *** Why did Dehn have two characters -- Hasslein in "ESCAPE" and
    Virgil in "BATTLE" -- voice the opinion that the Future could be
    changed?

    Simple: MOTIVATION. These are STORIES, folks. Both stories have
    characters -- Protagonists and Antagonists -- whose actions
    constitute the PLOT of each story.

    But the actions of these characters don't happen willy-nilly. The
    characters do what they do because they are MOTIVATED to do so.
    Armando acts to help the Ape-onauts -- then to hide Zira's baby and
    raise him to adulthood -- because he is motivated to do so. Just as
    Hasslein is motivated to kill the Ape-onauts and their baby, in order
    to change the Future he dreads will transpire without such action
    having been taken.

    The big question is: Was Dehn an Optimist or a Pessimist? He wrote
    the first three sequels entirely by himself (though Mort Abrahams had
    a hand in the story for "BENEATH" -- and it owed quite a bit to
    Boulle's "PLANET OF THE MEN" script, too), and he put the final
    touches on the screenplay of "BATTLE". And in every one of these he
    ends on a pessimistic note.

    Oh, I know... all you monkeys still insist that things were rosy in
    2670... that the nice Lawgiver presided over a group of purely
    peaceful integrated people. Sure. But Dehn himself wrote the bit with
    the crying statue and the hair-pulling chimp getting pushed by the
    girl (etc) -- and Dehn himself indicated that that final shot, of
    Caesar's statue weeping, represented the failure to change the
    Future. The Lawgiver -- when asked "Who knows about the Future?" --
    replies: "Perhaps only the Dead." -- and the camera pans to the
    statue of Caesar, whom he said (mere moments ago) had been dead for
    nearly six centuries.

    In other words, "Perhaps CAESAR knows about the Future."

    And Caesar -- who is Dead, in the Afterlife, on another plane of
    existence -- is WEEPING. If his soul is out there somewhere in the
    Great Beyond, it knows that the Future did not change. There's still
    fighting going on. The gorillas had packed up and left -- they aren't
    in that group of Apes and Humans hearing the mythologized tale of
    Caesar.

    Great Caesar's ghost (man, I sound like Perry White...) would have
    the ability to flit around the world, an ethereal presence unnoticed
    by mere mortals. He would be able to go into the Forbidden City, to
    see what had happened to the 'mad' Mutants he now knew were still
    alive there.

    He would know then something he COULDN'T have known when he was
    alive: that the Mutants had the DOOMSDAY BOMB in their possession.
    And that they were now WORSHIPPING it. That they now had a PURPOSE to
    their wretched existence: to be the Keepers of the Divine Bomb.

    To keep that "lovely souvenir from the 20th Century" around, in
    operational condition, until the time -- nearly 2,000 years later --
    when Caesar's parents would be alive. When the spaceship from pre-
    Nuke War times arrived. When the Gorillas waged a war that his
    parents fled in that spaceship.

    A 'dead' yet spiritually alive Caesar would KNOW this. Neither he,
    Virgil, nor MacDonald had any way of knowing about the Doomsday Bomb
    during the events of "BATTLE" -- so they couldn't have left any
    information about it to posterity. The Lawgiver's "story" of Caesar
    that he tells to his congregation would NOT have included those
    scenes involving Kolp, Mendez and Alma and the Bomb. WE, watching the
    movie, know that those events happened, but Caesar (etc) didn't know
    about it. Thus, the "Ape history" that Caesar hoped would be written
    one day ACCURATELY would be woefully incomplete.

    The lack of knowledge about that Bomb makes all the difference. At
    the end of "BATTLE" only the Mutants know about it. Not the Apes and
    Humans living in peace together on the surface world.

    That Doomsday Bomb IS the Future. And if "only the Dead" perhaps know
    that Future, it is a cause for weeping... which is why that statue
    symbolically does just that.

    That is HIS motivation. That's what that ending means. The entire
    POTA saga -- from the original "PLANET OF THE APES" through the end
    of "BATTLE" -- presents a doom-and-gloom view of Man's Nature running
    its course in the Nuclear Age.

    In "BATTLE" there are apes who know that Man waged the "vilest war in
    Man's history" -- a war which caused the cities of the world to be
    flattened. Knowledge of that horrific act committed by Man is the
    prime motivation of Dr. Zaius in "PLANET OF THE APES" is it not?

    THAT event -- the Nuclear War -- hadn't been prevented, had it? No!
    It was in the Past by the time the story of Caesar & Aldo takes
    place.

    Have you primates ever heard of the character Cassandra, from Greek
    myth? She was one of the daughters of King Priam of Troy. She was
    cursed with the gift of Prophesy -- cursed because even though she
    KNEW the Future, nobody would believe her. She knew that the 'Trojan
    Horse' gift of the Greeks -- if brought into Troy -- would spell
    their doom, and she tried to warn them... but the curse was that she
    would not be believed. They brought it in the city's gates... and
    Troy was doomed.

    Caesar's knowledge of the Future is like the curse of Cassandra, just
    as it was for Hasslein. Both of them yearned to change the Future.
    Both wanted to prevent Doomsday -- and Hasslein also wanted to
    prevent the rise of the Apes to dominance over Man.

    Why did Cassandra bother to inform others about the Future? Surely,
    she knew that she would not be believed -- her doomsayings had been
    brushed off time and time again. So why keep bothering to reveal the
    Future?

    She had to have held onto the impossible hope that THIS time she
    would be believed! Each time, her hopes were dashed, and she wept and
    went mad as a result, undoubtedly. But she would keep TRYING to get
    them to listen to her. Hoping. Hoping for the impossible.

    So, too, does Caesar (and Virgil and MacDonald, etc) cling to the
    hope that their actions MIGHT change the Future. They don't want to
    believe that the lives they live will not amount to much in the long
    term. They don't want to believe that their descendants, living 1,932
    years later, will be annihilated in a predetermined war between
    militant gorillas and whomever they would attack.

    It is human (and, in POTAland, simian) nature to have Hopes. Even
    when the situation is hopeless. And, as long as that Doomsday Bomb
    exists and is operational, it will hang like a sword of Damocles over
    the heads of the Apes, Humans, and Mutants who dwell in their
    respective locales.

    Patrick, the big know-it-all (hey, Rory said it...)
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    Group: potadg Message: 35249 From: ron kenner Date: 1/13/2006
    Subject: Re: Massive DVD set from Fox in April with all 6 films and both TV
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    i think i read about the water scene in a letter in the old marvel/curtis pota mag.
    but a few years ago i met "beneath" actor don pedro colley and he was not familair with it.
    what have you heard?
    rob

    tshaf37@... wrote:
    In a message dated 1/13/2006 2:32:38 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:
    It says the first films and the remake WILL EACH HAVE A BONUS DISC.
     
    This means Beneath, Escape, Conquest and Battle will have bonus discs.
     
    So it is possible that these extra discs will include alternative CONQUEST and Extended Battle.
     
    And what would be on a bonus disc for Beneath and Escape?  One would assume some deleted scenes somewhere!
    I've read somewhere There is cut parts of Beneath that were filmed under water and Escape has a view from the front of the ship where the Earth explodes. Maybe it could be just that? I just know if I buy this POTA Legacy set my wife is going to go Ape shit on me!



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    Group: potadg Message: 35250 From: patrickmichaeltilton Date: 1/13/2006
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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
    This is why I really do find Patrick very silly and only give him a
    hard time for the fun of it. (Hear that, Disrespector?!!!!)

    *** If givin' me guff is your idea of "fun" then you really do need to
    get out more, Rory!

    Patrick
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    Group: potadg Message: 35251 From: patrickmichaeltilton Date: 1/13/2006
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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@a... wrote:

    > One thing you have to remember about actors is that for the most
    part it's "just a job" for them. They're not as into the final
    product as fans are. I doubt Sean Connery knows much about the Bond
    movies he did, or even cares.
    >
    > -- Rory

    *** There are exceptions to this rule, though. The actor who
    portrayed Apollo in the original "BATTLESTAR GALACTICA" -- Richard
    Hatch -- had been a die-hard BG afficionado, so much so that he
    wanted to revive the franchise for years, even though he didn't own
    the property (Glen Larson created it). Hatch has written some
    original BG novels, too. I can't imagine Connery writing a James Bond
    novel. But Richard Hatch must know enough about the 'classic' BG
    universe to be able to write novels set in it. Evidently, in his
    case, it wasn't "just a job". I'm glad he is able to play a role in
    this undeniably superior updated version of "BATTLESTAR GALACTICA" on
    the Sci-Fi channel. They ran a marathon of episodes last week and I
    caught up with the storyline -- and I am amazed at how goddamned
    magnificent this show is! The original BG was cheesy fun... but THIS
    version is one of the best shows on TV. It ain't cheesy, that's for
    sure. In a post-9/11 world, its themes and plots are all-too-relevant
    for our world. If somebody would've told me -- 6 years ago -- that
    there would be a remake of "BATTLESTAR GALACTICA" and that it would
    be one of the greatest SF shows ever, I would've cocked an eyebrow
    like Mr. Spock and said, "Yeah, riiiiight....!"

    Patrick
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    Group: potadg Message: 35252 From: patrickmichaeltilton Date: 1/13/2006
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    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@a... wrote:
    >
    > In a message dated 1/11/06 8:19:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,
    > Michael.Whitty@d... writes:
    >
    >
    > > So you would like us to explore these thins in comic strip format
    Rory? Do you like Elaine's idea about Pre-Planet Zira?
    > >
    > > Michael
    > >
    >
    > Exploring thins, that sounds interesting.
    >
    > Yes! I'd ask "Just why did Zira become an animal psychologist?"
    BUT I'M AFRAID PATRICK WILL ANSWER ME!
    >
    > -- Rory

    *** Be afraid... be VERY afraid!

    By the way, your question is a good one. Why DID Zira become an
    animal psychologist?

    Here's a possibility...

    In the book of GENESIS, Adam & Eve lose their innocence when they
    take a bite out of a piece of fruit as a result of having
    been 'corrupted' by a talking snake. Later on, that talking snake was
    re-interpreted (in Christian circles) as having been equivalent to
    the character "Satan" from the book of JOB.

    Perhaps -- by the time Zira is born -- the Ape society has, in their
    SACRED SCROLLS scripture, a story which is believed by the orthodoxy
    to be True History (since the Sacred Scrolls are "inerrant", they
    claim), but which is doubted by the more liberal-minded freethinking
    chimpanzee scientists... a story of how the Devil used not a Snake
    but a Man as his "pawn", in order to tempt the simian version of Adam
    & Eve.

    If the Sacred Scrolls did have a story involving a Talking Human (who
    was really the Devil speaking through the mouth of an animal he was
    using as his pawn), then Zira might wonder: Does Man have the
    capacity for Speech?

    In order to find the answer to such a question, she would need to
    pursue a career where she does psychological and anatomical studies
    of Man. She would do comparative anatomy of deceased apes and living
    humans, seeing if the human brain has a "flaw" in it (or not)...
    seeing if the human vocal apparatus (larynx, voice box, etc) has the
    physiological adequacy to form vocalizations.

    She would pursue BEHAVIORAL studies, too, to Dr. Zaius' consternation.

    She would try to coax the mute humans to speak. She would give them
    positive reinforcement, such as offering them sugar cubes as a reward
    for speaking.

    All to see if, perhaps, a story written long ago about a Talking
    Human (who was really the Devil) might have been based on a real
    talking human who WASN'T the Devil, but was a creature naturally
    capable of talking.

    Patrick
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    Group: potadg Message: 35253 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 1/13/2006
    Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
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    Hello,

    This email message is a notification to let you know that
    a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
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    You can access this file at the URL:
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    Hello,

    This email message is a notification to let you know that
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    Group: potadg Message: 35255 From: Neil T Foster Date: 1/13/2006
    Subject: Within the Planet of the Apes strip #85 to 88
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      Group: potadg Message: 35256 From: Neil Date: 1/13/2006
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      --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:
      > Many people here (including yourself, if I'm not mistaken) would
      like to see Fox make new Apes movies. Wouldn't that fall into
      the 'lack of imagination' column? Why do a new Apes comic? Why not
      something completely original?

      -- Good idea, I've just about had enough of Apes for now anyway.

      Neil
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      Group: potadg Message: 35257 From: Neil Date: 1/13/2006
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      --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , LordTZer0@A... wrote:
      > Well I know someone who can draw.
      > Maybe I can talk her into doing it
      > so you can have one to read this time.

      -- That would be nice. And if it's not possible at least I can read
      the fantastic new Revolution on the POTA comics!

      Neil
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      Group: potadg Message: 35258 From: Neil T Foster Date: 1/13/2006
      Subject: Within the Planet of the Apes strip #81 to 84
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        Group: potadg Message: 35259 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
        Subject: Re: Massive DVD set from Fox in April with all 6 films and both TV
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        .html.html In a message dated 1/13/2006 8:49:52 AM Central Standard Time, urko3085@... writes:

        For those who don't want to click on the link, Fox will be releasing a Ultimate Planet of the Apes box set which will contain the original 5 films, the 2001 film, the 1974 TV series and the 1975 animated series, released on commercial DVD for the first time.


        AND, it also says that the films will each have a bonus disc!!!
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        Group: potadg Message: 35260 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
        Subject: Re: Massive DVD set from Fox in April with all 6 films and both TV
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        .html.html In a message dated 1/13/06 3:58:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, urko3085@... writes:


        It's badly worded, but I believe what it means is that there will be one bonus disc for the original 5 films and one bonus disc for the 2001 film for a grand total of 2 bonus discs (as noted in the third paragraph). Hopefully the bonus disc for the classic films is the bonus disc from the 35th anniversary release and not the bonus disc from the Evolution box set.


        What's with the inclusion of the 2001 disaster?!!!   I'm like so depressed.

        -- Rory
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        Group: potadg Message: 35261 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
        Subject: Re: Massive DVD set from Fox in April with all 6 films and both TV
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        .html.html In a message dated 1/13/06 4:07:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, tshaf37@... writes:


        I just know if I buy this POTA Legacy set my wife is going to go Ape shit on me!


        Just tell her she's the baby chimp -- and you're Dr. Hasslein!

        -- Rory
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        Group: potadg Message: 35262 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
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        .html.html In a message dated 1/13/06 4:42:28 PM Eastern Standard Time, brindlepit2002@... writes:


        i think i read about the water scene in a letter in the old marvel/curtis pota mag.
        but a few years ago i met "beneath" actor don pedro colley and he was not familair with it.
        what have you heard?
        rob



        It was never shot.  If it had been we'd have seen stills from it long ago.

        -- Rory
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        Group: potadg Message: 35263 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
        Subject: Re: Massive DVD set from Fox in April with all 6 films and both TV
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        .html.html In a message dated 1/13/2006 3:08:26 PM Central Standard Time, tshaf37@... writes:

        I've read somewhere There is cut parts of Beneath that were filmed under water

        There is no underwater sequence from BENEATH... It was planned, but scrapped due to budgetary constraints...
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        Group: potadg Message: 35264 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
        Subject: Re: Questions for Patrick....
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        .html.html In a message dated 1/13/06 4:45:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:


        *** If givin' me guff is your idea of "fun" then you really do need to
        get out more, Rory!

        Patrick


        I'd like to get out and meet you personally, Patrick, you darling little baby chimp, you!

        Signed,

        Otto H.
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        Group: potadg Message: 35265 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
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        .html.html In a message dated 1/13/06 4:56:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:


        If somebody would've told me -- 6 years ago -- that
        there would be a remake of "BATTLESTAR GALACTICA" and that it would
        be one of the greatest SF shows ever, I would've cocked an eyebrow
        like Mr. Spock and said, "Yeah, riiiiight....!"

        Patrick


        I've tried watching the new BSG.

        It sucks!

        -- Rory
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        Group: potadg Message: 35266 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
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        .html.html In a message dated 1/13/06 5:18:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:


        Yes!  I'd ask "Just why did Zira become an animal psychologist?" 
        BUT I'M AFRAID PATRICK WILL ANSWER ME!
        >
        > -- Rory

        *** Be afraid... be VERY afraid!

        By the way, your question is a good one. Why DID Zira become an
        animal psychologist?

        Here's a possibility...


        This would be where I stopped reading.

        -- Rory
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        Group: potadg Message: 35267 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
        Subject: Re: Within the Planet of the Apes strip #81 to 84
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        Group: potadg Message: 35268 From: taebokitti@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
        Subject: Re: The Roddy interview
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        In a message dated 1/13/2006 5:06:31 PM Pacific Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:
        In a message dated 1/13/06 4:56:48 PM Eastern Standard Time, patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:


        If somebody would've told me -- 6 years ago -- that
        there would be a remake of "BATTLESTAR GALACTICA" and that it would
        be one of the greatest SF shows ever, I would've cocked an eyebrow
        like Mr. Spock and said, "Yeah, riiiiight....!"

        Patrick


        I've tried watching the new BSG.

        It sucks!

        -- Rory


        •  What sucks about it? Elaine
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        Group: potadg Message: 35269 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
        Subject: Re: (OT) The Roddy interview
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        .html.html In a message dated 1/13/06 8:11:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, taebokitti@... writes:


        I've tried watching the new BSG.

        It sucks!

        -- Rory




        What sucks about it? Elaine

        Everything is doom and gloom.  There's no sense of wonder or adventure to it.  I don't like the actors and I hate the look of it.

        -- Rory
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        Group: potadg Message: 35270 From: tshaf37@aol.com Date: 1/13/2006
        Subject: Re: Within the Planet of the Apes strip #85 to 88
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        Group: potadg Message: 35271 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 1/13/2006
        Subject: Re: New GROUP Comic (interactive).
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        catching up on 300 emails.......

        definately Planet environment...!!!!

        Tim

        --- mike_oz2005 <Michael.Whitty@...> wrote:

        > I spoke with Neil last night and we have decided the
        > next comic we do
        > will be interactive, and written by the entire
        > group.
        >
        > I'm fairly sure this will be in the "comic strip"
        > format that WITHIN
        > was (well, most of it!) - but you MIGHT be able to
        > convince him
        > otherwise.
        >
        > The first question is - WHAT PART OF THE PLANET OF
        > THE APES DO WE WANT
        > TO DEAL WITH?
        >
        > Do we want to do something in the PLANET environment
        > (as WITHIN was)?
        >
        > Or maybe in the TV show or RETURN environment?
        >
        > We'll discuss this and make a decision by Monday at
        > the latest.
        >
        > This is a unique opportunity so please chime in ASAP
        > and begin to
        > discuss what you want from this project.
        >
        > Michael
        >
        >
        >
        >


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        Group: potadg Message: 35272 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 1/13/2006
        Subject: Re: Time to edit yourself
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        I would too!

        Tim

        --- "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...>
        wrote:

        > Well I would.
        >
        > I have a funny feeling most people find it too hard
        > to access the comics so
        > they rarely see them (unless we send the page to the
        > group as we do with
        > WITHIN).
        >
        > Michael
        >
        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
        > Neil
        > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 11:45 AM
        > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Time to edit yourself
        >
        >
        > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael"
        > <Michael.Whitty@d...>
        > wrote:
        > > Well nobody answered many of the questions - like
        > for example this
        > morning I asked about the effectiveness of the style
        > change in
        > WITHIN....
        >
        > -- Still waiting to find out if anyone would like to
        > see Going Home
        > from the start but with the pencils not the inked
        > pages. (It is inked
        > up to page 10 but the rest are only pencilled so far
        > but have had the
        > dialog added.)
        >
        > Neil
        >
        >
        >
        >


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