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It pretty much was, wasn't it?

Oh no - that's right - it was B&W with red was it?


It didn't have the Ursus/Mutant artwork.  They were on the 3-sheet, window card and insert posters.  I finally took my insert poster for BENEATH out of its frame and scanned the image.  My scanner isn't large enough to scan the entire thing, so I had to do four sections and then piece them together.  Took all evening.

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In a message dated 1/20/06 12:03:53 AM Eastern Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

Well, as far as accuracy, in "The Good Seeds", Urko just uses his hand to measure about how far the astronauts are from Central City... How accurate can an apes hand be when used to measure distance?

Has anyone ever bothered to notice that in the TV show Urko is a BONEHEAD?

-- Rory

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In a message dated 1/20/06 12:10:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

It pretty much was, wasn't it?

Oh no - that's right - it was B&W with red was it?

It didn't have the Ursus/Mutant artwork.  They were on the 3-sheet, window card and insert posters.  I finally took my insert poster for BENEATH out of its frame and scanned the image.  My scanner isn't large enough to scan the entire thing, so I had to do four sections and then piece them together.  Took all evening.

-- Rory

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In Boulle's novel the ape revolution happened 10,000 years in the past, and there had been not technological progress in all that time.  Why?  Because the apes were mere imitators.  They took over the human society and merely "aped" it.  There was no invention on their part.

It should also be remembered that in the first episode of the TV show we see that Zaius has some human books.  Why not then couldn't others of had maps as well and merely imitated what they saw?  They would put on the maps human towns and cities that weren't there anymore.  Anyway, I'm not going to argue the stupid TV show.  If you want to believe the apes set sail in boats to map the islands off the coast of what was California, hey... whatever turns you on. 

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In a message dated 1/19/2006 4:47:44 PM Central Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:

It would also make sense that intelligent beings like
tthe Chimps and Orangs would figure out how to travel
on water.....Gorillas wouldn't though....simple minded
thugs........

Intelligent beings like the chimps huh? Is that why Galen almost pisses himself at the thought of even getting his feet wet?


Yeah, it seems certain people here have forgotten that on this real planet of the apes, apes can't swim!  Chimpanzees are terrified of the water.

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So Rory, did you read p1 of the "new" comic this morning?

Ah, no.  When was that posted?
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In a message dated 1/19/2006 9:01:45 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

I like this Rory.

 

Michael

I agree nice job Rory, still the best movie in the series, but only by a hair over the first.

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In a message dated 1/20/06 12:08:45 AM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

So Rory, did you read p1 of the "new" comic this morning?

Ah, no.  When was that posted?

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Yeah, it seems certain people here have forgotten that on this real planet of the apes, apes can't swim!  Chimpanzees are terrified of the water.

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Intelligent beings like the chimps huh? Is that why Galen almost pisses himself at the thought of even getting his feet wet?

Yeah, it seems certain people here have forgotten that on this real planet of the apes, apes can't swim!  Chimpanzees are terrified of the water.

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In a message dated 1/19/2006 8:32:48 A.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

THE OMEN was Goldsmith's only Oscar win.

 

That's what I said.

But by golly, you're right!

Oliver was best adapted score.

I was looking at the wrong spot.

 

 

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In a message dated 1/19/2006 10:50:42 P.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

Oh yeah, I'd forgotten that.  I've also watched Frankie Howerd in "Up Pompeii."  I've seen a lot of British stuff, I even liked AB FAB.

 

I remember The Paul Hogan Show before Crocodile Dundee.

 

 

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You know, I must say (and I might be persuaded otherwise...) that the whole Boulle concept of the apes simply APING mankind does not seem to be present in the movies, the TV Show or the Cartoons....but RETURN is the CLOSEST thing to Boulle.....


Well, in the first film (when things are left "unexplained" and ambiguous) there's no proof otherwise that they didn't "ape" Humanity... Taylor says it himself when he theorizes that "Man was here first... You owe him your science, your culture, whatever civilization you got..."

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In a message dated 1/20/2006 8:38:32 A.M. Central Standard Time, tshaf37@... writes:

That was a great show. I use to howl so hard at that one. I wonder if you can get that on DVD?

 

Yes.  

 

You can.

 

 

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the likenesses are incredible....!

Tim

--- Neil T Foster <nfoster@...> wrote:

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>
> Neil
>
>

That's just Galen...he's a wimp!! I think chimps could
figure out how to build something that floats on
water....without getting their feet wet.....


--- mlccougar@... wrote:

> In a message dated 1/19/2006 4:47:44 PM Central
> Standard Time,
> apefan23@... writes:
>
> > It would also make sense that intelligent beings
> like
> > tthe Chimps and Orangs would figure out how to
> travel
> > on water.....Gorillas wouldn't though....simple
> minded
> > thugs........
>
> Intelligent beings like the chimps huh? Is that why
> Galen almost pisses
> himself at the thought of even getting his feet wet?
>

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Where did you get this from Rory?

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That works much better Rory!

Tim

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> Here's my redo of a BENEATH DVD cover I posted a
> couple days ago. I wasn't
> happy with it so I rearranged some of the elements.
>
> -- Rory
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OK, I looked at this.  It's TV series stuff.  I have problems with the TV series.  I don't like that the gorillas in the TV show don't look like they did in the first two movies. 

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What Rory says is true about chimps being afraid of the water... As a matter of fact, even if they weren't afraid of it, they couldn't swim anyway, as the have no body fat to help them stay afloat...

You're damn right "what Rory says is true"!  I know apes!  I don't think any of the Great Apes can swim.  Can't believe this is news to anyone.

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We have the official skinny from 20th Century Fox on their upcoming celebration of all things Planet of the Apes on DVD. The centerpiece of the affair will be the 3/28 release of the 14-disc, THX-certified Planet of the Apes: The Ultimate DVD Collection (SRP $179.98). Here's a disc by disc list of the extras, as confirmed by the studio:

Disc One - Planet of the Apes (1967 - anamorphic widescreen video, with Dolby Digital 5.1 & DTS 5.1 audio, audio commentary by composer Jerry Goldsmith, commentary by actors Roddy McDowell, Natalie Trundy and Kim Hunter, and make-up artist John Chambers, text commentary by Eric Greene, author of Planet of the Apes as American Myth ) - note that this is the same as Disc One from the 35th Anniversary Edition .

Disc Two - Planet of the Apes Bonus Disc (includes the 1998 Behind the Planet of the Apes documentary, trailers for all of the classic Apes films, promo spots, a make-up test with Edward G. Robinson from 1966, Roddy McDowall's original home movies, dailies and outtakes, the 1967 N.A.T.O. presentation, 4 vintage featurettes (Planet of the Apes , A Look Behind the Planet of the Apes, Don Taylor Directs Escape from the Planet of the Apes and J. Lee Thompson Directs Conquest of the Planet of the Apes ), original film reviews and galleries of poster art, production photos and costume sketches) - note that this is the same as Disc Two from the 35th Anniversary Edition and is also the same basic content as was included on Image Entertainment's Behind the Planet of the Apes: Special Collector's Edition .

Disc Three - Beneath the Planet of the Apes (1970 - newly remastered in anamorphic widescreen video with Dolby Digital 5.1 audio, plus a cast page, theatrical trailers for this and all of the other Apes films and a behind-the-scenes photo gallery) - same extras as on the previous release.

Disc Four - Escape from the Planet of the Apes (1971 - newly remastered in anamorphic widescreen video with Dolby Digital 5.1 audio, plus a cast page, theatrical trailers for this and all of the other Apes films and the Don Taylor Directs Escape from the Planet of the Apes featurette).

Disc Five - Conquest of the Planet of the Apes (1972 - newly remastered in anamorphic widescreen video with Dolby Digital 5.1 audio, plus a cast page, theatrical trailers for this and all of the other Apes films and the J. Lee Thompson Directs Conquest of the Planet of the Apes featurette).

Disc Six - Battle for the Planet of the Apes (1973 - newly remastered in anamorphic widescreen video with Dolby Digital 5.1 audio, plus a cast page, theatrical trailers for this and all of the other Apes films and the Fox Interactive's Behind the Scenes of the Planet of the Apes videogame promo).

Discs Seven-Ten - Planet of the Apes: The Complete TV Series (1974 - includes all 14 episodes in the original full frame video with Dolby Digital mono audio, plus photo galleries and TV spots) - this is basically the same as the previous 4-disc DVD release of the TV series, but the photo galleries and TV spots are new to this edition.

Discs Eleven-Twelve - Return to the Planet of the Apes: The Complete Animated Series (1975 - includes all 13 episodes in their original full frame video with Dolby Digital mono audio).

Disc Thirteen - Tim Burton's Planet of the Apes (2001 - anamorphic widescreen video with Dolby Digital 5.1 and DTS 5.1 audio, plus extras) - note that this is identical to Disc One of the previous DVD release of this film.

Disc Fourteen - Tim Burton's Planet of the Apes Bonus Disc (with additional extras) - note that this is identical to Disc Two of the previous DVD release of this film.

As you can see, what's new in The Ultimate DVD Collection are the new anamorphic transfers of the four classic Apes films that have previously been available in letterboxed widecreen only, along with the complete animated TV series (its first appearance on DVD and exclusive to The Ultimate DVD Collection ) and a couple new extras on the 1974 live-action TV series. All of this comes with a special "ape" display case designed to replicate the original mask designs from the classic films. This is the kind of packaging that Fox has previously released in Japan only (with I, Robot and The Alien Quadrilogy ), so you've got to at least give the studio credit for making it available to U.S. fans as well (expensive though it is). Here's a picture of the packaging...



For those not quite ready to part with $180, Fox is also releasing a 6-disc Planet of the Apes: The Legacy Boxset (SRP $49.98), which will include all five of the original Apes films, along with a bonus disc containing the Behind the Planet of the Apes documentary, trailers for all of the other Apes films and the Fox Interactive's Behind the Scenes of the Planet of the Apes videogame promo. We believe the classic films will all be the newly remastered anamorphic widescreen versions.

And for those simply wanting to add the later films to their libraries in better quality one at a time, Battle for the Planet of the Apes, Beneath the Planet of the Apes , Conquest of Planet of the Apes and Escape from the Planet of the Apes will all be re-released as stand-alone versions on 3/28 as well (SRP $14.98 each). These will each be the same as the movie discs contained in The Ultimate Collection , with newly remastered anamorphic widescreen video and the same extras.

Finally, just for kicks, Fox will release Tim Burton's Planet of the Apes on UMD format for Sony's PSP on 3/28 as well (SRP $19.98). Whew!




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I still can't get over how hideous the hair is on that Caesar bust...

They should have had a Dr. Zaius bust just like this picture!

-- Rory
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Wouldn't San Francisco be pretty much flattened?

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Just been comparing the pencils of page 2 and 3 to the inked
versions, I notice that you don't make many changes Neil. How do you
find inking ? Do you see it as a task that completes the work or is
it something else. I've never been happy with my pen and ink stuff
and found that if I penciled tight the ink line would come out
quite dead yet if I penciled loose I'd find myself in a pickle
possibly because there was a lack of info in them when it came to
inking. I've always admired some one like Milton Caniff who with
minimal penciling could produce wonderfully vibrant finnished ink
drawings which looked so simple and easy.
Best Graham.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "hill19652000" <shop@a...> wrote:

> Just been comparing the pencils of page 2 and 3 to the inked

versions, I notice that you don't make many changes Neil. How do you
find inking ? Do you see it as a task that completes the work or is
it something else.

-- Yeah I pretty much follow what I have already pencilled when I ink
(using a light box) but I do find it a bit of a task as all I am
basically doing is following the same lines, though once 'in the zone'
so to speak it does flow pretty easily.
Once in a while I do get a bit crazy and change something
completely! ;-)

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@a... wrote:

> Wouldn't San Francisco be pretty much flattened?

-- Why?

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Neil" <nfoster@h...> wrote:

>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "hill19652000" <shop@a...> wrote:
> > Just been comparing the pencils of page 2 and 3 to the inked
> versions, I notice that you don't make many changes Neil. How do

you

> find inking ? Do you see it as a task that completes the work or is
> it something else.
>
> -- Yeah I pretty much follow what I have already pencilled when I

ink

> (using a light box) but I do find it a bit of a task as all I am
> basically doing is following the same lines, though once 'in the

zone'

> so to speak it does flow pretty easily.
> Once in a while I do get a bit crazy and change something
> completely! ;-)
>
> Neil
>

It's interesting to see how a lot of modern comics are almost
missing out on the inking stage, just beefing up the pencils in
photo shop and going straight to the colouring. Looking at allstar
Superman #2, with art by Frank Quitely that came out this week, it
looks like thats what's been done there. The colourist gets to
define space and form, traditionly the job of the inker. The problem
I've always had with inking, in the comic book sense, is how to keep
it from becoming a task, usually I end up with a loose pen and ink
line but when I look at the drawing later I spot how bad the
draughtmanship is underneath. I've even started to re-draw complete
panels when I'm inking, which turns into a right mess:)
Best Graham.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "hill19652000" <shop@a...> wrote:

> It's interesting to see how a lot of modern comics are almost
> missing out on the inking stage, just beefing up the pencils in
> photo shop and going straight to the colouring.

-- Very true, exactly what it looks like was done with the new
Revolution on the POTA comic, which is not a bad thing (except maybe
for all the specialist inkers out there!)

> usually I end up with a loose pen and ink
> line but when I look at the drawing later I spot how bad the
> draughtmanship is underneath. I've even started to re-draw complete
> panels when I'm inking, which turns into a right mess:)

-- Which is why I like to spend as much time as possible getting the
pencils right before I even think about inking. Once I have them tight
enough it is just a matter of 'tracing the lines' and filling in the
black areas using my light box (which is also why I prefer working on
paper and not board.)

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "hill19652000" <shop@a...> wrote:

> Just been comparing the pencils of page 2 and 3 to the inked

versions, I notice that you don't make many changes Neil.

-- And I think the main interest, apart for those of us who actually
get a kick out of seeing original pencils ;-), will be when we get to
the pages after page 10 that haven't been seen yet.

Neil

Does anyone know what has happened to those proposed new POTA action
figures that were meant to be coming out? I can't for the life of me
remember the name of the company but they were talking about releasing
them in 'blind' packaging and I haven't heard a thing about them for
ages now.

Neil

What - like the Statue of Liberty?!?!? ;)

The image of SF with no ocean is how Dave Ballard started this
story. I think it is wonderful, and Neil compliments the idea
extremely well.

Maybe whatever caused this is a weapon far more advanced than "the
bomb" or a combination of pollution, global freezing, and many other
things to come in our future that are unknown to us.

But if I remember Dave right the idea was that SF with no water
would look cool.

And it sure does - eerie and spooky.

By the way, Dave's story was about the 3 fugitives roaming through
SF being recognised and revered, then discovering on Alcatraz there
was a monument to Burke, Virdon and Jones. Because Neil had already
put in months of research into SF and Alcatraz, the story I had in
mind was compromised. I wanted the 3 to wander into Texas, where
they were looking for NASA sites, and stumble across people THEY
recogmise (whom they immediately assume to be DESCENDANTS of people
they knew - until Virdon runs into his WIFE!). Of course the twist
is that there are an odd bunch of grave-robbers cloning people
(using futuristic cloning technologies) to develop a human army.

Oh well.....

Still, gotta love the visuals we end up with for Going Home.

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
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> In a message dated 1/21/06 9:42:57 AM Eastern Standard Time,
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>
> Wouldn't San Francisco be pretty much flattened?
>
> -- Rory
>

Does anyone know what has happened to those proposed new POTA action
figures that were meant to be coming out? I can't for the life of me
remember the name of the company but they were talking about releasing
them in 'blind' packaging and I haven't heard a thing about them for
ages now.

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-- Why?

Neil

I would think that in a major nuclear war San Francisco would be a prime target for total destruction, much like New York.  But even if it wasn't, isn't the TV series set a thousand years in the future?  I don't believe our structures could survive a thousand years without falling apart.  The concrete would crumble, buildings would collapse, the bridges too would rust and fall down, and in the case of San Francisco don't forget about earthquakes.

Your drawing of the city, while very nice, looks like something out of the Wizard of Oz, the city in pristine shape.

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By the way, Dave's story was about the 3 fugitives roaming through
SF being recognised and revered, then discovering on Alcatraz there
was a monument to Burke, Virdon and Jones.  Because Neil had already
put in months of research into SF and Alcatraz, the story I had in
mind was compromised.  I wanted the 3 to wander into Texas, where
they were looking for NASA sites, and stumble across people THEY
recogmise (whom they immediately assume to be DESCENDANTS of people
they knew - until Virdon runs into his WIFE!).  Of course the twist
is that there are an odd bunch of grave-robbers cloning people
(using futuristic cloning technologies) to develop a human army.

Oh well.....

Funny, I've had an idea for a sequel to the TV show that would have Alan and Burke eventually finding an intact "Icarus" ship and blasting off into the future and saving the world from the destruction of the Doomsday Bomb -- and it would start with the three fugitives traveling to Las Vegas!  Lots of ideas for great visuals with Las Vegas.

-- Rory

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>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "hill19652000" <shop@a...> wrote:
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> versions, I notice that you don't make many changes Neil.
>
> -- And I think the main interest, apart for those of us who actually
> get a kick out of seeing original pencils ;-), will be when we get

to

> the pages after page 10 that haven't been seen yet.
>
> Neil
>

I could look at pencils all day, :) I think one of the fasinating
aspects of any art is how the artist "completes " the work, what
choses he makes to get there, each persons different !!
In the old Turner room at the Tate gallery, lots of the work doesn't
have those great big ornate picture frames on them so you can actually
see the edge of the canvas on the stretcher. This is great because you
get to see the various layers and underpainting which would normally
be covered by the frame. I do get some odd looks when I'm looking at
the side of the canvas rather than the front however :)
Best Graham.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "mike_oz2005" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:

>
> What - like the Statue of Liberty?!?!? ;)
>
> The image of SF with no ocean is how Dave Ballard started this
> story. I think it is wonderful, and Neil compliments the idea
> extremely well.
>
> Maybe whatever caused this is a weapon far more advanced than "the
> bomb" or a combination of pollution, global freezing, and many

other

> things to come in our future that are unknown to us.
>
> But if I remember Dave right the idea was that SF with no water
> would look cool.
>
> And it sure does - eerie and spooky.
>
> By the way, Dave's story was about the 3 fugitives roaming through
> SF being recognised and revered, then discovering on Alcatraz

there

> was a monument to Burke, Virdon and Jones. Because Neil had

already

> put in months of research into SF and Alcatraz, the story I had in
> mind was compromised. I wanted the 3 to wander into Texas, where
> they were looking for NASA sites, and stumble across people THEY
> recogmise (whom they immediately assume to be DESCENDANTS of

people

> they knew - until Virdon runs into his WIFE!). Of course the

twist

> is that there are an odd bunch of grave-robbers cloning people
> (using futuristic cloning technologies) to develop a human army.
>
> Oh well.....
>
> Still, gotta love the visuals we end up with for Going Home.
>
> Michael
>

Could SF have been hit with a Neutron bomb, ( Have I spelt that
right?) rather than a standard nuke. You know the type that kills
people but leaves buildings etc pretty much intact. Just a thought.
Best Graham.

I know your afraid of your work showing up elsewhere without your
permission but are the new pages of "Going Home" that we haven't seen
already going to have the DG logo all over them too? Really takes
away from the artwork which is quite important to a comic story like
this.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, PotaDG@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
>
> This email message is a notification to let you know that
> a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
> group.
>
> File : /Going Home/GH Pencils & Text/wmTV page 03
(pencils).jpg
> Uploaded by : munkeyman63au <nfoster@h...>
> Description :
>
> You can access this file at the URL:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Going%20Home/GH%
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>
> To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
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> Regards,
>
> munkeyman63au <nfoster@h...>
>

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 11:31 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: RORY! Read this!

In a message dated 1/20/06 1:12:07 AM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Going%20Home/GH%20Pencils%20%26%2
0Text/wmTV%20page%2001%20%28pencils%29.jpg

OK, I looked at this.  It's TV series stuff.  I have problems with the TV series.  I don't like that the gorillas in the TV show don't look like they did in the first two movies. 

-- Rory

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 11:57 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Islands on the POTA

In a message dated 1/20/06 4:24:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

What Rory says is true about chimps being afraid of the water... As a matter of fact, even if they weren't afraid of it, they couldn't swim anyway, as the have no body fat to help them stay afloat...

You're damn right "what Rory says is true"!  I know apes!  I don't think any of the Great Apes can swim.  Can't believe this is news to anyone.

-- Rory

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@a... wrote:

> isn't the TV series set a thousand years in the future? I don't

believe our structures could survive a thousand years without falling
apart. The concrete would crumble, buildings would collapse, the
bridges too would rust and fall down,

-- Well in the TV series the cities that they visit seem to have
survived a bit better than that! We have just gone with what has
already been established.

> Your drawing of the city, while very nice, looks like something out

of the Wizard of Oz, the city in pristine shape.

-- Maybe you should wait and see what it looks like closer up?

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@a... wrote:

> and it would start with the three fugitives traveling to Las Vegas!

Lots of ideas for great visuals with Las Vegas.

-- Only if it hasn't been flattened though.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "John" <DrZaiusDavis@a...> wrote:

> I know your afraid of your work showing up elsewhere without your
> permission but are the new pages of "Going Home" that we haven't seen
> already going to have the DG logo all over them too? Really takes
> away from the artwork which is quite important to a comic story like
> this.

-- Sorry but yes. I have tried to make the watermark as unobtrusive as
I possibly could though.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:

> It ain't - but in Planet they can fucking talk and walk upright

Rory, so it is not out of this world to imagine they can now SWIM! ;)

-- Good point. And something that does continue to surprise me about
many Apes fans is that we seem to have no trouble suspending reality
enough to accept intelligent talking apes who have the ability to make
weapons, cameras etc. but if it is suggested they can do other things
like sail ocean going boats and make their own maps or other scenarios
that aren't seen 'on screen' that becomes unacceptable.

I think I know why the franchise is so dead!

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 10:02 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Islands on the POTA

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:
> It ain't - but in Planet they can fucking talk and walk upright
Rory, so it is not out of this world to imagine they can now SWIM!  ;)

-- Good point. And something that does continue to surprise me about
many Apes fans is that we seem to have no trouble suspending reality
enough to accept intelligent talking apes who have the ability to make
weapons, cameras etc. but if it is suggested they can do other things
like sail ocean going boats and make their own maps or other scenarios
that aren't seen 'on screen' that becomes unacceptable.

I think I know why the franchise is so dead!

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 7:31 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Islands on the POTA

As a matter of fact, even if they weren't afraid of it, they couldn't swim anyway, as the have no body fat to help them stay afloat...

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Greg Plonowski
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 12:10 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] New Ape Figures?

Palisade Toys is the company. Just checked out their site and there isn't much posted in the Apes forum, not even a 'wait for an announcement at Toy Fair' message from the company rep. I don't think we'll be seeing these any time soon, if ever.

 

Greg

Neil <nfoster@...> wrote:

Does anyone know what has happened to those proposed new POTA action
figures that were meant to be coming out? I can't for the life of me
remember the name of the company but they were talking about releasing
them in 'blind' packaging and I haven't heard a thing about them for
ages now.

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 2:27 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG

In a message dated 1/22/06 6:19:55 AM Eastern Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
> Wouldn't San Francisco be pretty much flattened?

-- Why?

Neil

I would think that in a major nuclear war San Francisco would be a prime target for total destruction, much like New York.  But even if it wasn't, isn't the TV series set a thousand years in the future?  I don't believe our structures could survive a thousand years without falling apart.  The concrete would crumble, buildings would collapse, the bridges too would rust and fall down, and in the case of San Francisco don't forget about earthquakes.

Your drawing of the city, while very nice, looks like something out of the Wizard of Oz, the city in pristine shape.

-- Rory

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.html.html In a message dated 1/22/06 5:37:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Well that's good because Neil has decided to draw them to look more like they were in the first two movies!  ;)

Very good.  I suggest looking at the gorillas in PLANET very carefully.  The sculpts for their appliences were done by Chambers himself, and are better than the stuff we see in the TV show.

-- Rory<.html <.html

.html.html In a message dated 1/22/06 5:51:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

> Your drawing of the city, while very nice, looks like something out
of the Wizard of Oz, the city in pristine shape.

-- Maybe you should wait and see what it looks like closer up?

Neil

Yes, I did see.  You should look again and at Washington in LOGAN'S RUN, where all the vegetation has grown over the buildings.  Nature taking back the city.

-- Rory<.html <.html

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 12:05 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG

In a message dated 1/22/06 5:51:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

> Your drawing of the city, while very nice, looks like something out
of the Wizard of Oz, the city in pristine shape.

-- Maybe you should wait and see what it looks like closer up?

Neil

Yes, I did see.  You should look again and at Washington in LOGAN'S RUN, where all the vegetation has grown over the buildings.  Nature taking back the city.

-- Rory

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.html.html In a message dated 1/22/06 5:51:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

> isn't the TV series set a thousand years in the future?  I don't
believe our structures could survive a thousand years without falling
apart.  The concrete would  crumble, buildings would collapse, the
bridges too would rust and fall down,

-- Well in the TV series the cities that they visit seem to have
survived a bit better than that! We have just gone with what has
already been established.

I think one should try to improve on the TV series.  The TV show really wasn't that good.

-- Rory<.html <.html

.html.html In a message dated 1/22/06 5:53:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
> and it would start with the three fugitives traveling to Las Vegas! 
Lots of ideas for great visuals with Las Vegas.

-- Only if it hasn't been flattened though.

Neil

Not necessarily.

-- Rory<.html <.html

.html.html In a message dated 1/22/06 5:38:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

It ain't - but in Planet they can fucking talk and walk upright Rory, so it is not out of this world to imagine they can now SWIM!  ;)

Michael

But why should they?  They'd still have to deal with all that wet hair, and don't forget what Zira said about the bath in ESCAPE.  Not used to the water she!

-- Rory<.html <.html

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 12:03 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Islands on the POTA

In a message dated 1/22/06 5:38:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

It ain't - but in Planet they can fucking talk and walk upright Rory, so it is not out of this world to imagine they can now SWIM!  ;)

Michael

But why should they?  They'd still have to deal with all that wet hair, and don't forget what Zira said about the bath in ESCAPE.  Not used to the water she!

-- Rory

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 12:06 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG

In a message dated 1/22/06 5:51:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

> isn't the TV series set a thousand years in the future?  I don't
believe our structures could survive a thousand years without falling
apart.  The concrete would  crumble, buildings would collapse, the
bridges too would rust and fall down,

-- Well in the TV series the cities that they visit seem to have
survived a bit better than that! We have just gone with what has
already been established.

I think one should try to improve on the TV series.  The TV show really wasn't that good.

-- Rory

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.html.html In a message dated 1/22/06 6:05:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

-- Good point. And something that does continue to surprise me about
many Apes fans is that we seem to have no trouble suspending reality
enough to accept intelligent talking apes who have the ability to make
weapons, cameras etc. but if it is suggested they can do other things
like sail ocean going boats and make their own maps or other scenarios
that aren't seen 'on screen' that becomes unacceptable.

I think I know why the franchise is so dead!

Neil

Yeah, I know why it's dead too -- because it became more and more juvenile, as in "comic-bookish."

Apes don't swim.  And as far as them going out in boats, I'll stick with what Zira said about flight in PLANET, "Where would it get you?"

-- Rory<.html <.html

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 12:07 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG

In a message dated 1/22/06 5:53:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
> and it would start with the three fugitives traveling to Las Vegas! 
Lots of ideas for great visuals with Las Vegas.

-- Only if it hasn't been flattened though.

Neil

Not necessarily.

-- Rory

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 12:01 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: RORY! Read this!

In a message dated 1/22/06 5:37:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Well that's good because Neil has decided to draw them to look more like they were in the first two movies!  ;)

Very good.  I suggest looking at the gorillas in PLANET very carefully.  The sculpts for their appliences were done by Chambers himself, and are better than the stuff we see in the TV show.

-- Rory

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 12:12 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Islands on the POTA

In a message dated 1/22/06 6:05:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

-- Good point. And something that does continue to surprise me about
many Apes fans is that we seem to have no trouble suspending reality
enough to accept intelligent talking apes who have the ability to make
weapons, cameras etc. but if it is suggested they can do other things
like sail ocean going boats and make their own maps or other scenarios
that aren't seen 'on screen' that becomes unacceptable.

I think I know why the franchise is so dead!

Neil

Yeah, I know why it's dead too -- because it became more and more juvenile, as in "comic-bookish."

Apes don't swim.  And as far as them going out in boats, I'll stick with what Zira said about flight in PLANET, "Where would it get you?"

-- Rory

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.html.html I read it.  My vision of San Francisco after a thousand years, and even if it had never been nuked, would be of a place were all the building were heaps of broken concrete and bricks, perhaps a few steel girder structures still standing, and the Golden Gate Bridge would have long ago rusted and collapsed, and on top of all that nature would have taken over and vegetation would be everywhere, perhaps even a forest.  You wouldn't even see that the city was once there until you were actually on top of it.

Much more visually interesting, don't you think?

-- Rory<.html<.html

.html.html In a message dated 1/22/06 8:10:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

And you should watch PLANET again Rory - not much growing in the FZ.

I didn't know there was a Forbidden Zone on the West Coast.  On the TV show it looked as if what was Southern California still looked like... Southern California!  The area around San Francisco is very forested, but perhaps you Aussies don't know that?

-- Rory<.html <.html

.html.html In a message dated 1/22/06 8:12:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

But covered in it and bubble bath!  You're just being silly Rory!

I'm not being silly.  Jane Goodall never watched a chimp take a bath!
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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 12:27 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Islands on the POTA

In a message dated 1/22/06 8:12:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

But covered in it and bubble bath!  You're just being silly Rory!

I'm not being silly.  Jane Goodall never watched a chimp take a bath!

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.html.html In a message dated 1/22/2006 7:27:51 PM Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

I didn't know there was a Forbidden Zone on the West Coast.  On the TV show it looked as if what was Southern California still looked like... Southern California!

Well, on the TV show, it is at least implied that there are Forbidden Zones... Remember Urko's wall map had areas "X" ed and such to show the borders of where these might be...

And, though never mentioned on the TV show itself, in the novels by Effinger, he uses the term Forbidden Zone...<.html <.html

.html.html In a message dated 1/22/06 8:19:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

But you are just being picky about trivialities.

I suppose that's more comfortable for you than actually complementing brilliant artwork - or does Neil suck as an artist too?

Michael


I don't think this stuff is trivial at all.  I'm very serious.

I think Neil is a very good artist and his work is great, BUT you guys should think about what you're doing more.  Don't be slaves of what you saw in the TV show.  Improve upon it.  Being Aussie Down Under Dudes you guys might what to go for a more Mad Max look to things.  The three Mad Max movies were better than BATTLE or the TV series!

-- Rory<.html <.html

.html.html In a message dated 1/22/06 8:23:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

The premise set in POTA - including the original movie - is that some things survived intact.

I disagree.

-- Rory<.html <.html

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 12:33 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: SF

In a message dated 1/22/06 8:23:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

The premise set in POTA - including the original movie - is that some things survived intact.

I disagree.

-- Rory

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 12:07 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG

In a message dated 1/22/06 5:53:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
> and it would start with the three fugitives traveling to Las Vegas! 
Lots of ideas for great visuals with Las Vegas.

-- Only if it hasn't been flattened though.

Neil

Not necessarily.

-- Rory

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.html.html In a message dated 1/22/06 8:35:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

Well, on the TV show, it is at least implied that there are Forbidden Zones... Remember Urko's wall map had areas "X" ed and such to show the borders of where these might be...

And, though never mentioned on the TV show itself, in the novels by Effinger, he uses the term Forbidden Zone...

Yeah, and Southern California has plenty of natural deserts anyway (they shot BENEATH in one!), BUT it also has plenty of forests, most of which are around San Francisco!

Let's not bring the 'novels of Effinger' into things.  Effinger gets the finger from me!

-- Rory<.html <.html

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 12:31 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG

In a message dated 1/22/2006 7:27:51 PM Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

I didn't know there was a Forbidden Zone on the West Coast.  On the TV show it looked as if what was Southern California still looked like... Southern California!

Well, on the TV show, it is at least implied that there are Forbidden Zones... Remember Urko's wall map had areas "X" ed and such to show the borders of where these might be...

And, though never mentioned on the TV show itself, in the novels by Effinger, he uses the term Forbidden Zone...

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 12:39 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG

In a message dated 1/22/06 8:35:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

Well, on the TV show, it is at least implied that there are Forbidden Zones... Remember Urko's wall map had areas "X" ed and such to show the borders of where these might be...

And, though never mentioned on the TV show itself, in the novels by Effinger, he uses the term Forbidden Zone...

Yeah, and Southern California has plenty of natural deserts anyway (they shot BENEATH in one!), BUT it also has plenty of forests, most of which are around San Francisco!

Let's not bring the 'novels of Effinger' into things.  Effinger gets the finger from me!

-- Rory

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.html.html In a message dated 1/22/06 8:23:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

So what were the boats in PLANET for, silly boy?

Michael

Those little canoes?  They weren't for finding the New World, silly Aussie BOY!  Just getting across that pond!  And just because an ape has a boat doesn't mean it takes a swim!

-- Rory<.html <.html

.html.html In a message dated 1/22/06 8:39:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

We do have a sequence coming up in Las Vegas where urko wins powerball......

Michael

Do you remember the Fox movie -- with a score by Jerry Goldsmith -- called DAMNATION ALLEY where they go to a nuked Las Vegas and are attacked by giant cockroaches?

-- Rory
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.html.html In a message dated 1/22/06 8:44:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Is there anybody who doesn't?

Boulle, Wilson and Serling?  ;)


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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 12:44 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG

In a message dated 1/22/06 8:39:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

We do have a sequence coming up in Las Vegas where urko wins powerball......

Michael

Do you remember the Fox movie -- with a score by Jerry Goldsmith -- called DAMNATION ALLEY where they go to a nuked Las Vegas and are attacked by giant cockroaches?

-- Rory

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.html.html In a message dated 1/22/2006 7:40:21 PM Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

Let's not bring the 'novels of Effinger' into things.  Effinger gets the finger from me!

Why, what's wrong with Effinger's novels?<.html <.html

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 12:36 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Islands on the POTA

In a message dated 1/22/06 8:23:59 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

So what were the boats in PLANET for, silly boy?

Michael

Those little canoes?  They weren't for finding the New World, silly Aussie BOY!  Just getting across that pond!  And just because an ape has a boat doesn't mean it takes a swim!

-- Rory

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 12:46 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Getting the (ef)finger

In a message dated 1/22/06 8:44:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Is there anybody who doesn't?

Boulle, Wilson and Serling?  ;)

Those dudes are OK!

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 12:26 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG

In a message dated 1/22/06 8:10:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

And you should watch PLANET again Rory - not much growing in the FZ.

I didn't know there was a Forbidden Zone on the West Coast.  On the TV show it looked as if what was Southern California still looked like... Southern California!  The area around San Francisco is very forested, but perhaps you Aussies don't know that?

-- Rory

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.html.html In a message dated 1/22/06 8:35:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

The statue of liberty?

What about it?  Do you just assume the rest of it is under the sands, or is it possible that it's just the top sitting there -- as I've always believed?  Also, haven't you looked closely and seen the holes in it?

And in BENEATH New York City didn't look too good!

-- Rory
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.html.html In a message dated 1/22/2006 7:35:33 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

The statue of liberty?

The Statue didn't neccessarily survive "intact"... For all you know, that could only be the top half of her which was blown off...<.html <.html

.html.html In a message dated 1/22/2006 7:50:05 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

And do they swim - who knows?  They TALK dude!  ;)

They cannot swim!!!!!!<.html <.html

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 12:42 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: SF

In a message dated 1/22/06 8:35:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

The statue of liberty?

What about it?  Do you just assume the rest of it is under the sands, or is it possible that it's just the top sitting there -- as I've always believed?  Also, haven't you looked closely and seen the holes in it?

And in BENEATH New York City didn't look too good!

-- Rory

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Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 12:32 PM
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Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG

In a message dated 1/22/06 8:19:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

But you are just being picky about trivialities.

I suppose that's more comfortable for you than actually complementing brilliant artwork - or does Neil suck as an artist too?

Michael

I don't think this stuff is trivial at all.  I'm very serious.

I think Neil is a very good artist and his work is great, BUT you guys should think about what you're doing more.  Don't be slaves of what you saw in the TV show.  Improve upon it.  Being Aussie Down Under Dudes you guys might what to go for a more Mad Max look to things.  The three Mad Max movies were better than BATTLE or the TV series!

-- Rory

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Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 12:53 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Islands on the POTA

In a message dated 1/22/2006 7:50:05 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

And do they swim - who knows?  They TALK dude!  ;)

They cannot swim!!!!!!

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:

> Their body fat is different in Planet!

-- Yeah evolved body fat! ;-)

So they really have no body fat? That's facinating! Does that mean you
can't have a fat ape? Are any 'larger' looking ones all muscle? What
happens to an ape that over eats?

Neil

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 5:11 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Islands on the POTA

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@d...>
wrote:
> Their body fat is different in Planet!

-- Yeah evolved body fat! ;-)

So they really have no body fat? That's facinating! Does that mean you
can't have a fat ape? Are any 'larger' looking ones all muscle? What
happens to an ape that over eats?

Neil 

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.html.html In a message dated 1/22/2006 8:36:14 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Their body fat is different in Planet!

Whitty,

That's only because they are portrayed by human actors, BUT they are still supposed to be "real apes"...<.html <.html

.html.html In a message dated 1/23/2006 12:16:19 AM Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

So they really have no body fat?

That is the case with chimps, thats for sure...

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 5:05 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Islands on the POTA

In a message dated 1/22/2006 8:36:14 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

Their body fat is different in Planet!

Whitty,

That's only because they are portrayed by human actors, BUT they are still supposed to be "real apes"...

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.html.html In a message dated 1/23/2006 12:20:04 AM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

And what is that under the orangs' chins?

What's under an orang's chin? If you mean what I think you mean, it's on the sides of their heads...<.html <.html