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In a message dated 1/24/2006 7:21:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

I have high hopes for "Revolution" but I have not heard from Ty about the sales.

 

It's not like he'll know anything.

Capital and EMI his sales figures from

The Beatles for years.  From what I

hear the comic industry is worse than

the music industry.

 

 

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In a message dated 1/24/2006 8:53:37 P.M. Central Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

Burke looks stoned or drunk!

 

Or like he's related to Sylvester Stallone.

 

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In a message dated 1/24/2006 8:46:58 P.M. Central Standard Time, tshaf37@... writes:

I know I'm new to the group but I have to say I'm kind of disappointed in the board. A lot of the topics are in my mind a waste of time (Ex. would be the whole boats and map thing?) I guess what I'm looking for is deep discussions about the series, TV show, and cartoons

 

Yes, you must be new.

We already talked about all that,

for the last several years. 

Sorry you missed it.

Check the achieves.

 

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> I suppose nearly everyone else in the group has seen the first 10
pages so they have already commented, but it is a bit disturbing that
so few people are actually discussing these pages.....

-- Maybe nobody wants to be bothered with pages that they have (sort
of) already seen and I can understand that if it is the case. I know I
love to see original pencils but maybe that is just an 'artist thing'.

How about we just skip to the pages that haven't been seen yet? would
that be preferable?

Neil








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In a message dated 1/24/2006 11:38:59 P.M. Central Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

I left the other one when my posts became "unpostable" but the guy I was replying to seemed to have free reign...

 

Wow, that sounds familiar.

 

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Greg Plonowski <urko3085@s...> wrote:

> In this week's installment of the Conquest adaptation, Armando's

interrogation continues while Caesar is sent to the breeding annex of
Ape Management. It's no question who got the better end of that deal.
Parents who were outraged at the number of unclothed apes in last
week's issue should shield their eyes from page 8 in this issue.

> Parents who enjoy letter columns should skip right to page 12.

-- Thanks Greg!

Neil

Can anyone provide me with the dates that all five
films first aired on TV??
Thanks!
Tim

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Ironic how I stood up for them all to the point where it nearly cost me the group and they repay me by stabbing me in the back and supporting the guy who placed them on moderation!  I guess POTA really IS all about irony!

Michael

I think a better question to ask, Michael, is "What are Yahoo groups all about?"

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.html.html In a message dated 1/25/06 3:31:20 AM Eastern Standard Time, urko3085@... writes:

As far as how decayed SF is or isn't, since I consider the TV series to be a separate continuity from the films, it's only been about 500 years since man's downfall, based on that New York picture dated 2503 in the first episode.

Greg

Oh yeah, that's a good point.  I always forget about that picture in the first episode.  There's also those dudes who left that projection in one episode.  Kind of like something out of Star Trek.

Yeah, the TV show is a separate "thing" for the films series....  BUT....


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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@a... wrote:

> I got an idea... why doesn't someone who has just posts scans of

it! Good idea, eh?

-- No not really. We certainly will NOT be doing that on this group.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@a... wrote:

> This makes no sense!

-- That's what we love about you Rory - constructive criticism of the
highest calibre! ;-)

Neil

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I like that one of the men is wearing a gorilla tunic with a bullet
hole in the chest. It always bothered me that Urko and his gorillas
were allowed to kill humans indiscriminately and without fear of
reprisals. It's nice to see some people who'll fight back.

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Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 8:59 PM

Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Legacy Set Cover

In a message dated 1/24/06 8:42:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

What's the deal with Conquest Caesar being all over everything?

My guess is that FOX is up to something with CONQUEST.....

Michael

No, my guess is that Roddy McDowall made a deal with them before he died.

You'll notice on the box covers now for PLANET that both Charlton Heston and Roddy McDowall's names are above the title.  It used to be only Heston.  I think maybe giving McDowall above the title credit for all future presentations of PLANET was a way to get his cooperation for the 30th Anniversary stuff, hosting the Behind documentary and allowing the use of his home movies, and I'm sure McDowall wanted to make sure he'd always be remembered for APES.  So now his ape puss is all over everything and they're selling his head.  Good for him.

-- Rory

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  I don't think it was a contractual thing. I think it's just Fox using McDowall as the glue for the whole "saga".

I'd have to agree with this...

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I gotta tell you.  I'd have to complain ,just a wee bit.

Ty

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Hey Mr. Whitty I made a special Home Page Picture for you and your
fellow Aussies on this your special day! ;-)

Neil

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Oh now, that's too easy.  I meant, specifically on which album are they credited as such.  For instance, John calls himself Winston O'Boogie on the Walls and Bridges album, and at least one other (but no more hints).  That's what I meant by sourcing the nicknames.

Ty the Guy.  Clearly WAAAY too into the Beatles for his own good.

It's at the printers, and the galleys were at the office yesterday, approved and ready to go.  It's a matter of schedule and trucks.  I figure a week or two, and no more.

We're assembling three at the moment, working on the script for #5, and getting a little art in from issue #4...

While trying to get Big Max #1 out the door...

It's all whirling around.

Ty

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In a message dated 1/25/2006 3:57:57 P.M. Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

Parents who were outraged at the number of unclothed apes in last
week's issue should shield their eyes from page 8 in this issue.

 

That doesn't make sense.

Should dogs and cats wear clothes?

Or are they saying they are human?

There were unclothed apes in 3 of 5

of the films.  There were unclothed

humans in the first one!  And it got

a G rating.  If parents are so concerned

about the ape's state of dress, then why are

they letting their kids read something so

violent?  Killing's fine, but no naughty bits. ! ?

Sheer hypocrisy!

 

 

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In a message dated 1/25/2006 11:33:58 P.M. Central Standard Time, tybunny@... writes:

Extra points for anyone who can source all four of the Beatle nicknames mentioned above.

Someone said the Mob was heavily into comicbook distribution.

 

Winston O'Boogie is Lennon

Hari Georgesong is Harison

Little Richie is Ringo

that leaves Maaca McCartney

 

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , LordTZer0@A... wrote:

> That doesn't make sense.
> Should dogs and cats wear clothes?
> Or are they saying they are human?
> There were unclothed apes in 3 of 5
> of the films. There were unclothed
> humans in the first one! And it got
> a G rating. If parents are so concerned
> about the ape's state of dress, then why are
> they letting their kids read something so
> violent? Killing's fine, but no naughty bits. ! ?
> Sheer hypocrisy!

-- Ummm, I think Greg was just joking!

neil

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@A... wrote:
> That doesn't make sense.
> Should dogs and cats wear clothes?
> Or are they saying they are human?
> There were unclothed apes in 3 of 5
> of the films. There were unclothed
> humans in the first one! And it got
> a G rating. If parents are so concerned
> about the ape's state of dress, then why are
> they letting their kids read something so
> violent? Killing's fine, but no naughty bits. ! ?
> Sheer hypocrisy!

-- Ummm, I think Greg was just joking!

neil

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When you do a search in YAHOO GROUPS for "Planet Of The Apes", you
only get 90 matches for the name in either title or description.
That's very low when you compare to "Star Wars" (3174 matches), "Star
Trek" (2705 matches) and even Battlestar Galactica (214 matches).

Obviously, the more successful the franchise the more groups that
will be formed, but the low POTA presence still surprises me.

Dan

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
>
> Hmmmm..
>
> What I'd like them to be about is where (in our group anyway) all
POTA
> fans (define THAT!) can get together and discuss things of interest
to
> them.
>
> I don't like all the personal attacks and name-calling, and I hope
> everyone here can take it upon themselves not to push me into a
corner
> about this. If it does continue, I will consider doing what James
does,
> and "muzzling" offenders so others CAN have a say and not be
bullied and
> frightened off. I like hearing from the "little people" who DON'T
> consider they know everything.
>
> I believe there ARE some who simply want to own YAHOO! groups
because
> that's the only way people will listen to their lies and nonsense.
Eg
> James used to get slammed every time he said BATTLE was cut to get
in
> one extra screening. Now he just censors anyone who disagrees and
there
> are some poor fools out there who probably believe his lies and
don't
> realise he is making it up.
>
> Ever wonder why he fled to an established group instead of just
starting
> his own?
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
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Behalf
> Of Haristas@a...
> Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2006 11:43 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: One group?
>
> In a message dated 1/25/06 12:45:35 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> Michael.Whitty@d... writes:
>
>
>
>
> Ironic how I stood up for them all to the point where it nearly
cost me
> the group and they repay me by stabbing me in the back and
supporting
> the guy who placed them on moderation! I guess POTA really IS all
about
> irony!
>
> Michael
>
>
> I think a better question to ask, Michael, is "What are Yahoo
groups all
> about?"
>
> -- Rory
>

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Hi Folks,

Should have posted this earlier, but I wanted to let everyone know
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:

> I used to believe there were billions of POTA "fans" out there, but

now I think there are probably about 100 (a limited edition?).

--It would be interesting to find out how many there really are out
there.
Not very many as dedicated as us lot I would say and then even fewer
who are prepared to part with their cash to buy Apes products. A few
examples would be how badly something like the Beware the Beast poster
sales were (especially when compared to the amount of people who said
they would buy it which prompted us to go ahead and produce the thing
in the first place!) or the Rittenhouse cards or the Sideshow figures
or (add your own product here!)

And if things don't sell companies give up on them and try and make
their money from something else. We are all quick to blame Fox for all
the Apes troubles but really, why would they bother knocking
themselves out to do something that they know has little chance of
reaping any rewards?

The one thing we are lucky with is the amount of fans willing to do
stuff for nothing because of their love for Apes but even that becomes
pointless eventually, I know I can find better more rewarding things
to do with my time and I'm sure people like Greg P. for example could
too.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "canadianapefandan" <mystic4ever@s...>
wrote:

> When you do a search in YAHOO GROUPS for "Planet Of The Apes", you
> only get 90 matches for the name in either title or description.

-- And out of that 90 only about 4 of the groups have any recent
activity and only probably a couple have any discussions seriously
worth bothering about!

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 8:09 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Yahoo Groups and Planet of the Apes Fans.

The one thing we are lucky with is the amount of fans willing to do
stuff for nothing because of their love for Apes but even that becomes
pointless eventually, I know I can find better more rewarding things
to do with my time and I'm sure people like Greg P. for example could
too.

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 8:40 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Yahoo Groups

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "canadianapefandan" <mystic4ever@s...>
wrote:
> When you do a search in YAHOO GROUPS for "Planet Of The Apes", you
> only get 90 matches for the name in either title or description.

-- And out of that 90 only about 4 of the groups have any recent
activity and only probably a couple have any discussions seriously
worth bothering about!

Neil 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Ty Templeton
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 7:42 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] 4 pints, or 4 points? :).

Oh now, that's too easy.  I meant, specifically on which album are they credited as such.  For instance, John calls himself Winston O'Boogie on the Walls and Bridges album, and at least one other (but no more hints).  That's what I meant by sourcing the nicknames.

Ty the Guy.  Clearly WAAAY too into the Beatles for his own good.

On 1/26/06, Michael Whitty < whitty@...> wrote:

Macca = PAUL

 

Hari Georgesong = George Harrison

 

Winston O'Boogie = John

 

Little Richie = Richard Starkey (Ringo)

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ty Templeton
Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2006 4:34 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] The state of the franchise of the Planet of the Apes

 

It's not like he'll know anything.

Capital and EMI his sales figures from

The Beatles for years.  From what I

hear the comic industry is worse than

the music industry.

Whilst I LOVE any comparison between me and mssrs. Macca, Winston O'Boogie, Little Richie and Hari Georgesong, I'm not sure where you've gotten this impression about the comic industry.

 Diamond Distributing, the main distrubution system for Comic Shops in North America, regularly releases their sales figures (a couple of  months after stuff hits the newsstand).  The Top 300 sales figures are widely reported on the internet the week of release, and as co-publisher for Mr. Comics, (rather than a hired writer/artist etc.) I'm not sure who would be keeping the sales figures from me.

Now, after saying all that.

Our sales are better than a number of people thought they'd be, but lower than I'd hoped. Of course, I was hoping for something in the quarter million range, each issue hand delivered by half naked starlets on mopeds.   In the real world, no one's swimming in Scrooge McDuck money around Casa de Senor Comica quite yet, but we're doing okay.

Ty the Guy.  Extra points for anyone who can source all four of the Beatle nicknames mentioned above.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Ty Templeton
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 7:42 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] 4 pints, or 4 points? :).

Oh now, that's too easy.  I meant, specifically on which album are they credited as such.  For instance, John calls himself Winston O'Boogie on the Walls and Bridges album, and at least one other (but no more hints).  That's what I meant by sourcing the nicknames.

Ty the Guy.  Clearly WAAAY too into the Beatles for his own good.

On 1/26/06, Michael Whitty < whitty@...> wrote:

Macca = PAUL

 

Hari Georgesong = George Harrison

 

Winston O'Boogie = John

 

Little Richie = Richard Starkey (Ringo)

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ty Templeton
Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2006 4:34 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] The state of the franchise of the Planet of the Apes

 

It's not like he'll know anything.

Capital and EMI his sales figures from

The Beatles for years.  From what I

hear the comic industry is worse than

the music industry.

Whilst I LOVE any comparison between me and mssrs. Macca, Winston O'Boogie, Little Richie and Hari Georgesong, I'm not sure where you've gotten this impression about the comic industry.

 Diamond Distributing, the main distrubution system for Comic Shops in North America, regularly releases their sales figures (a couple of  months after stuff hits the newsstand).  The Top 300 sales figures are widely reported on the internet the week of release, and as co-publisher for Mr. Comics, (rather than a hired writer/artist etc.) I'm not sure who would be keeping the sales figures from me.

Now, after saying all that.

Our sales are better than a number of people thought they'd be, but lower than I'd hoped. Of course, I was hoping for something in the quarter million range, each issue hand delivered by half naked starlets on mopeds.   In the real world, no one's swimming in Scrooge McDuck money around Casa de Senor Comica quite yet, but we're doing okay.

Ty the Guy.  Extra points for anyone who can source all four of the Beatle nicknames mentioned above.

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> Pick, pick, pick, I know... But the ball-cap doesnt look right....

-- Fair enough but now I'm a bit worried, if you don't like that you
may want to look away when some of the later pages are released. I
think controversial would be an understatement! ;-)

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Anthony B. McElveen
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 2:35 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Going Home (original pencils & text) 09

I like that one of the men is wearing a gorilla tunic with a bullet hole in the chest. It always bothered me that Urko and his gorillas were allowed to kill humans ndiscriminately and without fear of reprisals. It's nice to see some people who'll fight back.

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I don't think it was a contractual thing. I think it's just Fox using McDowall as the glue for the whole "saga". As a whole, he really is the star. And arguably he's the actor most associated with it, even more than Heston. It's his mug on the 30th, 35th and probably 40th anniversary covers. Putting Roddy's name above the title is just where it belongs. - - - Jeff

Oh, I think it was something McDowall negotiated before his death, but who knows -- except maybe his agent.

As far as his name being where it belongs... Well, the POTA purist in me wants to remind you that PLANET is a Charlton Heston movie, McDowall was a "co-star," and BENEATH stars James Franciscus with McDowall only in a clip.

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So maybe Rory just missed it in his haste to bitch about page 8?

Neil


No, I didn't miss anything.  I just thought it didn't make sense.  If they were hit on the head with rocks like that -- THEY'D BE DEAD!

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The next thing I know it had turned up on the POTA site being used in conjunction with his cities overlay.
I nicely explained to him that it was used without my permission and I would like him to remove it and not use it as I considered that version was my creation.
Of course he refused with the explanation that "FOX is the true owners of everything POTA and thus nothing created by a fan from their copyright can truely be owned be that fan."

True story!

Neil

Nice job, Neil, but I think that when you put something on the web you better expect it's gonna get took.

By the way, given all the territory the apes apparently had on the TV show, it's too bad the entire series seemed to take place in only one small part of it.

Map makes no sense though.  Southern California would've been nuked big time.  It should have the crosses and skulls over it.

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So no word on "Apes 2" but these flicks only go up to 2007 and 2008 is the 40th anniversary, a good time for a new movie.

Yeah, just what we need....

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The next thing I know it had turned up on the POTA site being used in conjunction with his cities overlay.
I nicely explained to him that it was used without my permission and I would like him to remove it and not use it as I considered that version was my creation.
Of course he refused with the explanation that "FOX is the true owners of everything POTA and thus nothing created by a fan from their copyright can truely be owned be that fan."

True story!

Neil

Nice job, Neil, but I think that when you put something on the web you better expect it's gonna get took.

By the way, given all the territory the apes apparently had on the TV show, it's too bad the entire series seemed to take place in only one small part of it.

Map makes no sense though.  Southern California would've been nuked big time.  It should have the crosses and skulls over it.

-- Rory UNCLASSIFIED

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 12:58 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Going Home (original pencils & text) 08

In a message dated 1/26/06 2:01:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

So maybe Rory just missed it in his haste to bitch about page 8?

Neil

No, I didn't miss anything.  I just thought it didn't make sense.  If they were hit on the head with rocks like that -- THEY'D BE DEAD!

-- Rory

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.html.html In a message dated 1/26/06 3:00:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

Now the "fans" are weary – and almost as cynical as Rory!  ;)

Blame FOX (I always do!). 



Fox sucks, but the real enemy is time.  Things grow old, we grow old.  Soon all will be gone.  Gone and forgotten.  It's the way of things.

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.html.html In a message dated 1/26/06 4:04:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

-- Well I am not really that surprised when you think that things like the FSM Beneath and Conquest/Battle CDs are limited to 3,000 copies worldwide each and have still not sold out after however many years they have been available for now.

Neil


Yeah, but Intrada still thought there was enough of a fan base to release the TV series CD.

How about that, eh?

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.html.html In a message dated 1/26/06 9:32:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

It should have been, but again I'm not going to re-write that.....the map is canon.

Canon as far as the TV show is concerned, BUT NOT THE MOVIES.

NO WAY, NO HELL!!

I don't care what Patrick says.

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.html.html Warner Brothers is close to a deal to rent New York's Kingsbridge Armory as 
a preproduction and studio set for a movie version of Richard Matheson's famed
vampire novel, I Am Legend, the New York Daily News reported. 

Warner is in the process of closing a deal to rent the armory for seven 
months for about $350,000, city officials who control the armory told the 
newspaper.

Warner is in the process of closing a deal with the city's  Economic
Development Corp. to rent the entire first-floor interior of the armory  for the hefty
sum of $50,000 a month. City officials said the studio plans to  rent the
armory's 190,950-square-foot interior from Feb. 27 through Sept. 30. 

Warner officials could not be immediately reached by the Daily  News on
details of the film, such as who would star in it. But a city  official said the
studio plans to shoot the entire film in various New York City  locations.

I Am Legend, which was originally set in Los Angeles,  centers on the lone
survivor of a plague that has transformed the world's  population into
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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 1:27 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Yahoo Groups

In a message dated 1/26/06 4:04:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

-- Well I am not really that surprised when you think that things like the FSM Beneath and Conquest/Battle CDs are limited to 3,000 copies worldwide each and have still not sold out after however many years they have been available for now.

Neil

Yeah, but Intrada still thought there was enough of a fan base to release the TV series CD.

How about that, eh?

-- Rory

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.html.html In a message dated 1/26/06 9:33:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

They were paper mache!

Michael


That's too bad, because I think it would be great if you just killed all three of them in the first couple pages, then invented some truly interesting characters and forgot all about those TV series LOSERS!

Just like the show, those three kind of suck!

-- Rory<.html <.html

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@a... wrote:

> Nice job, Neil, but I think that when you put something on the web

you better expect it's gonna get took.

-- Thanks Rory, yes I've learned my lesson now which is why whenever I
share any original artwork or such these days I put those annoying
watermarks all over them, I wish I didn't have to but what can you do?

Neil

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Neil
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 1:49 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: That darned Map!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@a... wrote:
> Nice job, Neil, but I think that when you put something on the web
you better expect it's gonna get took.

-- Thanks Rory, yes I've learned my lesson now which is why whenever I
share any original artwork or such these days I put those annoying
watermarks all over them, I wish I didn't have to but what can you do?

Neil

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Anyone else have any comments or should we just stop posting these?

 

Michael

 

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Greg Plonowski
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2006 2:37 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Going Home (original pencils & text) 09

I've been enjoying seeing the pencilled pages that I'd previously only seen inked, and I think the last few pages I'd only seen penciled and not lettered, but I may be mistaken about that. I do know there's some pages coming up that I haven't seen lettered, and I'm looking forward to seeing those. I've got copies of them on my hard drive somewhere, but I've resisted the urge to go and look at them agin because I want to see them fresh again with the dialogue in place.

 

As I've stated before, I'm not wild about the direction this is going because I'm rather fond of these characters, but I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and try to evaluate the story on it's own.

 

Greg 

"Whitty, Michael" <Michael.Whitty@...> wrote:

Anyone else have any comments or should we just stop posting these?

 

Michael

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.html.html In a message dated 1/26/2006 10:40:15 PM Central Standard Time, Michael.Whitty@... writes:

What I am hoping to do is add something.....

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It's called Pussycats, but you get the points for remembering the source, even without the name.  Excellent!    (For those who care, PUSSYCATS is the rarest of oddities, a John Lennon album, that's not REALLY a John Lennon album.  Although John produced the record, plays piano and guitar on every track (and sings on a lot of them), and though John chose every song, wrote a couple, and reteamed with Ringo Starr, Jim Keltner, and Klaus Voorman of the Plastic Ono Band to make the record, Mr. Harry Nilsson sings lead on all the songs, so it's catalogued as a Nilsson record, when it's really a group album with Nilsson, Lennon and Ringo.  Lennon appears on the album cover, though, just to let people know what they're really getting.  Of all the odder Lennon/ Beatle recordings, it's about the hardest to find in regular record stores, and I doubt it's been released on CD, damn it all!  Personal favorite tracks:  Old Forgotten Soldier and Mucho Mungo.)

If memory serves, the Hari Georgesong reference might prove impossible.  It's from a pair of albums that have ABSOLUTELY never been released on CD, and have probably been out of print since the mid seventies.  Biggest hint: They're part of the miniscule DARK HORSE RECORDS non-Harrison catalogue.

Ty the Guy.  Getting back off the Beatlemania bus. 

PS:  I'm talking to some folks at FOX about cross promoting our book with the big APES video release...fingers crossed folks, this might be some WONDERFUL synergy.

Again Ty.  Just making sure I talked about the Apes for a second.

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In a message dated 1/26/2006 2:01:17 P.M. Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

The reason POTA2001 did not "succeed" is that it was rubbish! 

 

Hey, second most successful Sci-If remake of all time!

The reason is didn't have a sequel by now is that it was rubbish.

 

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Not lately.  To get into the actual criminal distribution/ mob days, we're talking Seventies/ Eighties...and this isn't the the hookers, drugs, gambling and smuggling version of the mob...but basically a group of crooked distributors that used to sell "destroyed" magazines to the public, in fairly large numbers and ask for credit on them from the publishers anyway.  It was a widespread practice - returned issues-- warehousing out of date issues of magazines was prohibitively expensive,  magazine publishers  preferred to have the retailers dispose of unsold issues themselves...and "buy them back" by giving them a credit for unsold issues on their next order.... all based on the HONOR SYSTEM!!!

 Basically, crooked distributors would sell a certain percentage of the stock twice...once to a customer, and once back to the publisher as "destroyed" or unsold, which was a lie.  For certain popular titles at the time (Like the Kirby Fourth World and Adams and O'Neil's GREEN ARROW GREEN LATERN titles) the "back of the truck" distribution became so large a percentage of the total sales that this very popular comics were cancelled because of "low sales", even though more copies were getting into the hands of fans than other, "better selling" titles.

This practice was essentially eliminated from the world of comics in the nineties, with the comic shop/non-returnable system.  I'm sure it still happens to the world of big time newsstand distributing, though. 

And I mentioned on another thread, sourcing the Beatle Nicknames meant, saying what and where the source of the nickname was.  In the case of Winston O'Boogie it's WALLS AND BRIDGES, PUSSYCATS and a few other mid-Seventies Lennon releases.  I'm dying to see if there's a Harrison maniac out there who has the Hari Georgesong album.  (I'm the only one I've ever met personally, although famous comic writer Gail Simone, no small Beatlemaniac herself, dropped the reference on me once, earning her many points in my fevered Liverpudlian decendant brain.)

Ty the Guy.

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In a message dated 1/26/2006 3:04:13 P.M. Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

Well I am not really that surprised when you think that things like the FSM Beneath and Conquest/Battle CDs are limited to 3,000 copies worldwide each and have still not sold out after however many years they have been available for now.

 

If Fox wanted the kind of money they're asking

you should be able to get it in a Caesar, or a

Cornelius, or a Zira, Zaius or Ursus.  Or The

Ship, or Lisa!  Or whatever the hell you want! 

And not that crappy Caesar either!  It should

look like' em!  They just haven't woken up to

the fact that the days when fans will plonk

down hard cash for any piece of crap with

POTA on it are over!  I have better things

to do with my money than buy them

a bigger car or a swimming pool.

 

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In St. Helena, Adams, clearly, is no number; and he enjoys keeping himself and his public smiling with each mail delivery. On Halloween and other holiday times, for example, he always dresses in costume.

"Last year, for Halloween, I was in my 'Planet of the Apes' outfit, and on Christmas I was dressed as Bob Cratchit from 'A Christmas Carol,'" he said.

Happy in his work, Adams says he is happy in his play, as well. Besides being an avid skateboarder, he has become a ukulele freak, and strums with a group called the "Wine Country Flea Jumpers." He said his friend, Judd Finkelstein, started the uke band, which ranges in size from four to 20 people, depending on who is in town at the time.

 

There are only 100 hardcore POTA fans left in the world,

but this postman in St. Helena "Bonham-Carter", Californica

can find 20 people to play ukulele with?  Something's Wrong!

At least he dresses POTA for Halloween. That's something I guess.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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In a message dated 1/26/2006 8:44:39 P.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

I Am Legend, which was originally set in Los Angeles,  centers on the lone
survivor of a plague that has transformed the world's  population into
blood-sucking vampires.

 

Lemme' guess...

The lead will be played by Will Smith.

 

 

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Speaking of Apes and Comics

Kevin Smith, a huge POTA fan,

and Jason Mewes are going to

be at Comic-Con or some-such

event.  What the ???  I'm sure

Jay will be loaded for that. He

has a real problem.  Have you

seen him in the Dogma Extras?

He needs to get it together,

before he's has to do those

celebrity loser shows or

rob gas stations!

 

 

 

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Hey guys, lets be realistic here, McDowall, has had more involvment with
the whole POTA franchise then Heston ever did. It's only natural that he
be most associated with the POTA franchise.

RedAce^



Haristas@... wrote:

> *In a message dated 1/25/06 11:10:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> veetus@... writes:
>
> *
>
>> I don't think it was a contractual thing. I think it's just Fox using
>> McDowall as the glue for the whole "saga". As a whole, he really is
>> the star. And arguably he's the actor most associated with it, even
>> more than Heston. It's his mug on the 30th, 35th and probably 40th
>> anniversary covers. Putting Roddy's name above the title is just
>> where it belongs. - - - Jeff
>
>
> *
> Oh, I think it was something McDowall negotiated before his death, but
> who knows -- except maybe his agent.
>
> As far as his name being where it belongs... Well, the POTA purist in
> me wants to remind you that PLANET _is_ a Charlton Heston movie,
> McDowall was a "co-star," and BENEATH stars James Franciscus with
> McDowall only in a clip.
>
> -- Rory*
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Sorta feel obliged to take them ALL away in a sense.

 

However one of them will not be coming back…..

 

This is something many fanfic writers have done to conclude the TV Show – kill off a character….

 

Michael

 

Well, I do hope if you kill any of them off it will be Alan. I can relate to Pete so much better then Alan?

 

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I really enjoyed the 2001 film and am surprised how many other fans
didn't. It's only disappointing when you compare it to the original,
which nothing could compare to.

Hopefully Jeff's speculation is right that 2008 will offer something
for POTA on the big screen.

Dan

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
>
> Hi Dan
>
> I used to believe there were billions of POTA "fans" out there, but
now
> I think there are probably about 100 (a limited edition?).
>
> The others are Sci-fi fans, comic book fans, Kim Hunter fans, Chuck
> fans, NRA fans..etc, who are also POTA fans. But their loyalty and
> $$$$s are committed firstly to OTHER things...
>
> Remember, BG actually had a successful "comeback". IF Burton's
movie
> was better, or GOOD even, it would have worked for POTA. It
actually
> did a lot of HARM instead.
>
> Had Ty released this comic book in 1990, when ADVENTURE smashed all
> current comic-book sales records (then lost everyone because their
> stories and artists, other than a couple, were rubbish), we would
have
> had the topless roller skaters delivering them on a platinum tray!
A
> record amount of people who may not have been fans, but had fond
> memories of POTA, were ripe for the plucking and instead the got an
ass
> (rhymes with) plucking.
>
> Now the "fans" are weary - and almost as cynical as Rory! ;)
>
> Blame FOX (I always do!). They need to stop marketing polished
turds
> and give us substance. We are lucky that MR COMICS has the license
for
> POTA COMICS because they give a crap. FOX do NOT give a crap, and
they
> continue to damage their golden goose as we speak.
>
> What happened to ad campaigns? The MEGO ape? The Ape-A-Thon?
Throw
> some money into advertising, FOX! The reason POTA2001 did
not "succeed"
> is that it was rubbish! Now we have a SOLID comic book series and
> action figures worth buying and trading card sets (that struggle to
sell
> a limited edition of 300!), push CLASSIC POTA! Send around an army
of
> men and women in ape clothes - go to the people and hand out
bananas!
>
> Michael
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of canadianapefandan
> Sent: Friday, 27 January 2006 6:38 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Yahoo Groups
>
> When you do a search in YAHOO GROUPS for "Planet Of The Apes", you
> only get 90 matches for the name in either title or description.
> That's very low when you compare to "Star Wars" (3174
matches), "Star
> Trek" (2705 matches) and even Battlestar Galactica (214 matches).
>
> Obviously, the more successful the franchise the more groups that
> will be formed, but the low POTA presence still surprises me.
>
> Dan
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@c...> wrote:
> >
> > Hmmmm..
> >
> > What I'd like them to be about is where (in our group anyway) all
> POTA
> > fans (define THAT!) can get together and discuss things of
interest
> to
> > them.
> >
> > I don't like all the personal attacks and name-calling, and I hope
> > everyone here can take it upon themselves not to push me into a
> corner
> > about this. If it does continue, I will consider doing what
James
> does,
> > and "muzzling" offenders so others CAN have a say and not be
> bullied and
> > frightened off. I like hearing from the "little people" who DON'T
> > consider they know everything.
> >
> > I believe there ARE some who simply want to own YAHOO! groups
> because
> > that's the only way people will listen to their lies and
nonsense.
> Eg
> > James used to get slammed every time he said BATTLE was cut to
get
> in
> > one extra screening. Now he just censors anyone who disagrees
and
> there
> > are some poor fools out there who probably believe his lies and
> don't
> > realise he is making it up.
> >
> > Ever wonder why he fled to an established group instead of just
> starting
> > his own?
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On
> Behalf
> > Of Haristas@a...
> > Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2006 11:43 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: One group?
> >
> > In a message dated 1/25/06 12:45:35 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> > Michael.Whitty@d... writes:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ironic how I stood up for them all to the point where it nearly
> cost me
> > the group and they repay me by stabbing me in the back and
> supporting
> > the guy who placed them on moderation! I guess POTA really IS
all
> about
> > irony!
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > I think a better question to ask, Michael, is "What are Yahoo
> groups all
> > about?"
> >
> > -- Rory
>
> --
>