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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "luke_the_drifter52" <JLKINSER1970@...>
wrote:

> I can't remeber how Neil because it has been so long since I played

it. But I went to a site called Cheatgoat and downloaded what I call
the instructions on how to complete each segment.

> Here is their address
> http://www.cheatgoat.com/

-- Thanks, that really helps a lot, got it now!

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , tshaf37@... wrote:

> mine you have to get an apes gun and blow up the barrels of gas.

Aim the gun at the cans and shoot, to aim press the shift button to
get the cross hair. In the back room is a can of gas by a wall that
blows the wall open when it explodes and you run threw it.

Thanks Tom.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@... wrote:

> I've been thinking I should donate mine to my local branch of the

public library. The library lends out DVDs now and I've noticed they
have none of the APES films,

-- If they end up in the condition that most of the CDs and DVDs in
our local Library do you might as well throw them in the rubbish bin
now and not bother!

Seriously it would be a nice gesture and you never know, could hook
some more true believers into the fold.

Neil

.html.html In a message dated 3/3/06 3:33:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

The old set?  Keep until they do the better transfers in PAL the ebay (and when they don't sell on ebay I don't know what I'll do!).

Michael


They're not releasing these new DVDs in PAL in your region?!!!

That makes no sense.  I would wait and see what the real story is.

-- Rory

PS

I too am a bit "over it."  PLANET will always be my favorite movie, but I'm just not that obsessed with this stuff anymore.  I have the posters and Sideshow figures displayed in my apartment, but it's just background.
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-- If they end up in the condition that most of the CDs and DVDs in
our local Library do you might as well throw them in the rubbish bin
now and not bother!

I know what you mean, but it bothers me they don't have the APES films, only an old VHS of BENEATH.  What's up with that?!!!

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Rory....if you ever want to rid yourself of posters
and press stuff, let me know...would love to get first
shot at them!!!

Tim

--- Haristas@... wrote:

>
> I too am a bit "over it." PLANET will always be my
> favorite movie, but I'm
> just not that obsessed with this stuff anymore. I
> have the posters and
> Sideshow figures displayed in my apartment, but it's
> just background.
>

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Rory....if you ever want to rid yourself of posters
and press stuff, let me know...would love to get first
shot at them!!!

Tim

Hummmmmm....

I'm not that "over it."  Besides, you probably would balk at the prices.  I've a couple posters I'd have to ask over $1000.00 each for.

-- Rory
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:

>
> What are they selling for?
>
> Michael

They are $30 unpainted, $40 painted. Shipping in the USA is $4.55,
elsewhere, email me so we can figure out the best option for getting it
to you. They are made of a rubber/vinyl [?] and made to fit on a
Sideshow POTA body for easy switching. I prefer payment by USPO money
order if in the States but will accept paypal if you are willing to
cover the extra fees. I think it was like an extra $2.00. Any other
questions/comments, feel free to email me direct.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 2/25/06 6:03:04 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> whitty@... writes:
>
>
> > T, where are X, Y and Z? ;)
> >
> > M

> I haven't time for Patrick's pseudoscientific gobbledygook. It's

like all the technobabble on Star Trek -- fun to listen to, but
basically bullshit. Oh, it's all based on sound theory, but not
possible. POTA depends on suspension of disbelief. My suspension
only goes so far. Anyway, a "causality loop" is a nice idea, but I
reject it for the film series. I go with the alternate timeline
scenario. Can the future be changed? I vote YES!

>
> If the future can't be changed, and the world of POTA is doomed to

always end in nuclear holocaust, then what's the point of it all?
The "causality loop" universe of Patrick and others throws the whole
of POTA into an abyss of meaninglessness.

>
> -- Rory

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@... wrote:

>
> So, just who here plans on getting the new APES DVDs on March 28th,

whether it be the Ultimate Edition, or the Legacy set, or just the
individual movies?

>
> If you are getting the new DVDs what do you plan on doing with the

old ones? I've been thinking I should donate mine to my local branch
of the public library. The library lends out DVDs now and I've
noticed they have none of the APES films, but I wonder if there's any
reason I should keep them? I don't like the packaging, hate the
Statue of Liberty spoiler cover, and don't care for the menus, plus
they have no extras. Might as well kiss 'em good-bye.

>
> Any thoughts?
>
> -- Rory

*** I still have the VHS pan-&-scan tapes... the VHS widescreen
set... 3 of the 5 laserdiscs... the DVD box set... the 35th
Anniversary POTA... and I'll undoubtedly buy the new Ultimate
Edition. I haven't thrown anything POTA away, and I doubt if I'll
start any time soon. I don't collect anything and everything, so it's
not as if another POTA item is gonna take up too much room.

I do kinda like your idea of donating to libraries. Maybe someday
I'll donate my pan-&-scan tapes to the local library -- though I
think they're phasing out the VHS tapes in favor of DVDs. It'd be
hard, though, given the sentimental value of anything that is classic-
POTA related. I never did go all-out collecting POTA2K stuff, so it
doesn't bother me if I don't have an Ari action figure, or stuff like
that. If I had just one DVD copy of Burton's POTA to watch
(infrequently, of course), that would be more than enough! I may
donate some POTA re-imagined stuff, since it doesn't have the
sentimental value.

Patrick

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The whole point of the POTA films -- from Rory's (and our) beloved
1st one through the last of 'em -- is that the Conflicts we're waging
in our time will culminate in the end of civilization and, for all
intents and purposes, the end of the world. The sight of the buried
Statue of Liberty exemplifies this: Zira asks Zaius, "What will he
find out there, Doctor?" His answer: "His destiny."

Ya got that, Rory?!

Oh boy!  You are so silly!!!  No matter what happens in a civilization it will culminate in its end!  Civilizations, like everything else, END!  Your idea of POTA's "point" is shallow!

You're hopeless, Patrick.... HOPELESS!

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 3/4/06 10:50:59 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:
>
>
> > The whole point of the POTA films -- from Rory's (and our)

beloved 1st one through the last of 'em -- is that the Conflicts
we're waging in our time will culminate in the end of civilization
and, for all intents and purposes, the end of the world. The sight of
the buried Statue of Liberty exemplifies this: Zira asks Zaius, "What
will he find out there, Doctor?" His answer: "His destiny."

> >
> > Ya got that, Rory?!
>
> Oh boy! You are so silly!!! No matter what happens in a

civilization it will culminate in its end! Civilizations, like
everything else, END! Your idea of POTA's "point" is shallow!

>
> You're hopeless, Patrick.... HOPELESS!
>
> -- Rory

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Ouch! well maybe there's a few smaller items! I hope
you don't burn out on it too soon......just think how
much you will miss it all after it's gone!

TIm

--- Haristas@... wrote:

> In a message dated 3/3/06 8:25:29 PM Eastern
> Standard Time,
> apefan23@... writes:
>
>
> > Rory....if you ever want to rid yourself of
> posters
> > and press stuff, let me know...would love to get
> first
> > shot at them!!!
> >
> > Tim
> >
> Hummmmmm....
>
> I'm not that "over it." Besides, you probably would
> balk at the prices.
> I've a couple posters I'd have to ask over $1000.00
> each for.
>
> -- Rory
>

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... Too late.". 67. "Get your hands off me, you damned dirty ape!". From Planet of the Apes (1968). Git 'em, Moses! Git 'em! From Young Guns II (1990).

 

 

Take!  It's, Take your stinking paws off me! 

When will they get it right?  And I don't

remember that Young Guns line at all!

 

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In a message dated 3/5/2006 5:58:31 AM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

So, let the speculation begin... What is '
Churchdoor'?

St Paul
's cathederal? 
Alpha Omega?

That's my feeling on what it is.

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , tshaf37@... wrote:

>
>
> In a message dated 3/5/2006 5:58:31 AM Central Standard Time,
> whitty@... writes:
>
> So, let the speculation begin... What is 'Churchdoor'?
>
> St Paul's cathederal? Alpha Omega?
>
>
>
> That's my feeling on what it is.
>

Don't you mean St. Patrick's Cathedral? The Alpha-Omega Bomb
in "BENEATH" is in St. Patrick's Cathedral -- the same place where,
not so long ago, a NYC radio station persuaded a couple to do the
wild thing, which led to arrests and a lawsuit and the firing of the
DJs in question.

Speaking of St. Patrick's Cathedral (no relation to me, by the way,
except that my birthday -- March 1st -- led to me being named after
St. Patrick, since it's in the same month as St. Patrick's Day)...
wouldn't it be a gas if a bunch of POTA fans were to get Mutant
makeups put on our faces, and put on 'normal'-looking face masks over
that, then dress in long white/grey robes... show up for a Mass...
and then, en masse, chant in unison "I REVEAL MY INMOST SELF UNTO MY
GOD!"

And then take off the 'normal' mask to reveal the hideous mutant
faces beneath 'em.

I heard that NASA dudes had plans to dress up in ape suits when John
Glenn returned from his shuttle flight several years ago, as part of
a POTA joke. Somebody nixed the idea, though, which is too bad. Nice
to know that NASA remembers POTA, though, isn't it?

Patrick

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , LordTZer0@... wrote:

> Take! It's, Take your stinking paws off me!
> When will they get it right? And I don't
> remember that Young Guns line at all!

-- Yeah that really annoys me as well. Also it is amazing how many
times a reference to that line turns up in a movie. We watched Wallace
and Gromit - The curse of the Were-Rabbit yesterday and they used a
variation of that line in it!

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:

> Well, not too sure if we can BELIEVE this guy, but he reckons it's

his birthday! :-)

-- Well yes it was, thanks!

> HAPPY BIRTHDAY BIG NUTS (Neil)!

-- You been peeking again? ;-)

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@... wrote:

> Here's a BENEATH photo Neil might appreciate. In it I wonder why

Maurice Evans is wearing his gloves -- must have been cold on the
location. And Neil, check out all the hair around that gorilla's
neck! The one standing on a rock -- which I think is only so that
when the did the close-ups of Ursus giving his speech, the gorilla
behind him would be above his shoulders.

Thanks, great photo Rory. I have uploaded a copy of it to the files
section for those who missed it. He really does need a beard trim that
gorilla doesn't he!

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "patrickmichaeltilton"
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>The film was primarily an indictment of AMERICA, as things stood in

the mid-to-late 1960's. If the U.S.A. were to continue going down the
path that it was (then) going down, Serling and Wilson were saying --
through the satirical 'bite' of this cinematic fiction -- that the
end result would be the destruction of OUR civilization. A mass
suicide resulting from the triggering of a nuclear showdown between
two opposing ideologies.

-- It would be very interesting to find out what might be happening /
have happened elsewhere in the world and how the apes turned out in
different countries. What? That sounds like an idea for a new story
you say? ;-)

Neil

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:

> Not just how they turned out, but also how they got there....
> Hey - maybe you and Dave B could get a new comic happening!?

-- Much as I would love to I don't see that ever happening. Last I
heard Dave was not writing comics anymore, not enough time or
something.

Neil

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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, 5 March 2006 2:58 PM
To: nfoster@...
Subject: storyboard

Here's a bad storyboard I drew...

 

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@... wrote:

> I too am a bit "over it." PLANET will always be my favorite movie,

but I'm just not that obsessed with this stuff anymore.

-- Seems like a lot of us feel this way. I have never been a really
big collector of Apes stuff, infact most of the stuff I have I picked
up on the cheap.

As for the new DVD releases I won't be getting them. Mainly because
the money I would have to pay out for them can be better spent
elsewhere on more essential stuff. The DVDs I already have are enough
for me at the moment and unless I get a brand spanking new expensive
top of the line TV etc. it's just not worth it as far as I am
concerned.

Neil

Well, not too sure if we can BELIEVE this guy, but he reckons it’s his birthday!  J

HAPPY BIRTHDAY BIG NUTS (Neil)!

Michael and Nigel   xoxoxoxoxo

Hey - what's the latest on this?

We have a script from T (not complete but Neil and I both like it).

Last I recall, T was to provide a ZIRA story and then Rory and I were going
to try to work in something involving DrZ and a new character Lazarus.

Rory - you interested?

Michael

.html.html In a message dated 3/5/06 3:42:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

Great photo by the way, Rory.

Where did this one come from?

Michael



It's something Joe Russo e-mailed me a while ago.  That guy sits on probably the largest stash of photos from BENEATH anywhere.

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The DVDs I already have are enough
for me at the moment and unless I get a brand spanking new expensive
top of the line TV etc. it's just not worth it as far as I am
concerned.

Neil

You won't be missing a thing, expect maybe a really good-looking print on that extended BATTLE.  I think by the time you get the big-screen plasma TV, Neil, we'll be watching something other than DVDs.

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How does an aging hippy spend his birthday? I hope it was a good one.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@...> wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@> wrote:
> > Well, not too sure if we can BELIEVE this guy, but he reckons it's
> his birthday! :-)
>
> -- Well yes it was, thanks!
>
> > HAPPY BIRTHDAY BIG NUTS (Neil)!
>
> -- You been peeking again? ;-)
>
> Neil
>

Churchdoor?

What, you want I should give it ALL away?

Don't worry.  All gets revealed in the right order, and we're not going to drag out a secret forever.  Churchdoor comes front and center in issue #3 --heading to the printers on Wednesday of this week by the way....we're just waiting on the last page of the back up story featuring Li'l Caesar, the Circus Ape of Wonder, possibly my favorite back up so far.

See you in the funnies.

Ty

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In it I wonder why Maurice Evans is wearing his gloves

 

He's wearing the gloves so he doesn't have to wear the hand makeup.

The same reason that Roddy McDowell had those phone hand glove.

Wearing had makeup sucks.

 

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King Kong was a triple winner, nabbing the awards for
Best Visual Effects, Sound Mixing and Sound Editing.

Tim

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My brother just spent $9000 on a Pioneer HDTV Plasma WS (not sue of the size but BIG!).

Looks great, but $9000?!?!?!?

Michael



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In a message dated 3/5/2006 12:40:00 P.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

In it I wonder why Maurice Evans is wearing his gloves

He's wearing the gloves so he doesn't have to wear the hand makeup.
The same reason that Roddy McDowell had those phone hand glove.
Wearing had makeup sucks.


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First,may I remind Rich that the release of the Tim Burton movie
(which I pretty much despised) fortunately did make possible the
publication of the book PLANET OF THE APES REVISITED,which sat in
limbo for
years without publishers interest,and which I co-authored.Because of
the Buton/Apes hubub,the greedy publsihers figured they could jump
on the back of the movie publicity.Fortunately,though,it made it
possible for us to finally get the thing published,so that is the
extent of my regard for the remakes' existence.

Regarding the continued "should I or shouldn't I" squabble over
purchasing the costly new "ultimate" Ape-head set...it is a
difficult
choice for many I think because,frankly,the only elements to
recommend it
are two; anamorphic transfers and animated series.Personally,I know
of no one salivating for the animated series,although there are
several out there I'm sure.

This release is simply
FOX tempting the
loyal APES completist to re-purchase alot of material they already
own.(Why were the last transfers in the 2000 box set not
anomorphic)? On the flip side,we as fans would like to support APES
releases
as incentive and encouragment for future released product.So it is a
double edged sword.On one hand,we want to support the APES item,on
the other hand,we DON'T want to cast our "vote" for a shoddy product
that we really aren't crazy about (like the Hasbro figures of
several years ago).

I think the concept of a mega-ape set is good,but why none of the
extras that would truly make it a must-own purchase instead of a
pretty
dubious rehash? Extended still gallery,unedited full-length
interviews that were done with cast members for the AMC BEHIND
documentary.More of Roddy's home movies (There ARE more!),etc. would
have tipped the scales for folks like myself whi STILL aren't
certain if it's a good idea.

Perhaps because Fox is holding off on that material and 5 or 10
years from now there will yet
ANOTHER "ultimate" set---mark my words.

Joe Russo

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In a message dated 3/6/2006 7:01:32 A.M. Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

But in the scene in BENEATH, Evans has the hand makeup on!

 

Now that is weird!

 

 

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Greg Plonowski <urko3085@...> wrote:

>
> Happy Birthday, Neil. Hope you have a good one (or had a good one

if this is reaching you after the actual day due to time
differences).

>
> Greg
>
> Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:
>
> Well, not too sure if we can BELIEVE this guy, but he

reckons it's his birthday! J

>
> HAPPY BIRTHDAY BIG NUTS (Neil)!
>
> Michael and Nigel xoxoxoxoxo
>

It was your birthday Neil ? nearly missed this ,should pay more
attention to the posts :) hope you had a good one
Best wishes Graham.

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Happy Birthday, Neil!!!

 

 

 

            

 

 

                    

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Yes I hope it was a good one!!! Get any fun Ape
stuff???

Tim

--- LordTZer0@... wrote:

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Greg Plonowski <urko3085@...> wrote:

> Happy Birthday, Neil. Hope you have a good one (or had a good one if

this is reaching you after the actual day due to time differences).

-- Thanks Greg.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "John" <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:

> How does an aging hippy spend his birthday? I hope it was a good one.

-- Very quietly if one had too much to drink the night before! ;-)

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "hill19652000" <shop@...> wrote:

> It was your birthday Neil ? nearly missed this ,should pay more
> attention to the posts :) hope you had a good one
> Best wishes Graham.

Thanks Graham, have you done any more POTA paintings lately?

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:

> Yes I hope it was a good one!!! Get any fun Ape
> stuff???

-- No apes stuff this year just a Slade video and an old LP I have
been after for a while.

Once again thanks everyone!

neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@... wrote:

> It's something Joe Russo e-mailed me a while ago. That guy sits on

probably the largest stash of photos from BENEATH anywhere.

-- So do you know if these will ever see the light of day? Is he
planning on a new book or even an updated version of the original one
maybe?

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@... wrote:

> So it is a double edged sword.On one hand,we want to support the

APES item,on the other hand,we DON'T want to cast our "vote" for a
shoddy product that we really aren't crazy about

-- This is so true and puts the fans in a bad situation. Do we buy
this stuff that Fox hands us to show that Apes will sell or do we all
say forget it I won't waste my money on that crap which then gets Fox
thinking (Ha! that will be the day!) there is no interest in Apes
products anymore.

It's not really fair is it?

Neil

T,

Just need to clarify something buddy, because an irate individual has just
emailed me regarding something you posted elsewhere....

Neil is NOT doing a new Bounty Hunter story.

There's a SPOOF entitled Bounty the Hunter....Neil has started this and
might one day get back to finishing it but it is LOW on the list of
priorities.

Priority one is the new comic, set Down Under. Neil is currently
researching solar vehicles and designing futuristic versions of these based
on existing prototypes.

We are also discussing clothing - what are our humans and apes going to be
wearing? If it is the standard POTA garb - how can we justify it? Maybe
the apes "aped" the clothes from humans? Whatever......it is a tough call
and when we make it that will be it so if anyone has a comment, now is the
time or forever hold your piece (sic).

This is the story I previously mentioned where we do a "POTA BEGINS"
scenario. It will be easy enough to squeeze in as a "prequel" to POTA but
it won't be intended as such.

There IS a Bounty Hunter (Juba) story that Dave Ballard gave Neil and I to
use if and when we please. It's a good story but Dave said he feels it
needs a re-writre (as he said about "Monument" which was not used either).
The Juba story is set in the TV Show environment. Neil and I compromised
ourself to extremes to do a TV Show story and it was not well received so we
have finished it in rough only and it will be abandoned. If one day it
looks like it might be published, we have the project ready to pick up and
complete. It was a mistake to compromise my story by keeping the first 3 or
so pages of Monument and re-writing them. It was a mistake to go with the
TV series also, but we did so to hopefully please some TV show fans. That
was a mistake too - they are an ungrateful lot! :)

So to set the record straight - NO bounty hunter comics....sorry!

Michael

There's also the new strip.

Within is complete now, and the new strip is going to be a group effort.

T has provided a script and Neil & I like it.

I'd like to combine T's Zira story with a story about Zaius and LAZARUS. I
have an idea what this is going to be about but I'd like someone else in the
group to be involved in writing this story. I thought Rory said he might,
but I could be wrong. If nobody steps up I'll write it myself, but since I
wrote WITHIN, GOING HOME and the new story, I think it's about time some
others get the thrill of seeing their stories brought to life by Neil.

So once we get something combined and all parties are happy with it, we'll
be getting regular strips again.

Michael

Don't worry mate there's a few other goodies on the way....

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@...> wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@> wrote:
> > Yes I hope it was a good one!!! Get any fun Ape
> > stuff???
>
> -- No apes stuff this year just a Slade video and an old LP I have
> been after for a while.
>
> Once again thanks everyone!
>
> neil

.html.html In a message dated 3/6/06 5:33:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

-- So do you know if these will ever see the light of day? Is he
planning on a new book or even an updated version of the original one
maybe?

Neil

He'd like to do it, but doesn't think it'll interest a publisher, and doesn't think there's enough fans to make it worth publishing privately.

-- Rory<.html <.html

Is he the type of guy who would allow a web-site to host these photos
or do you think he'd keep them to himself?

Also, does he have any colour shots? If he does, and we do go ahead
trying to get a BENEATH card set up, wouldn't it be nice to include
some of these?

Could you ask please Rory?

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 3/6/06 5:33:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> nfoster@... writes:
>
>
> > -- So do you know if these will ever see the light of day? Is he
> > planning on a new book or even an updated version of the original
one
> > maybe?
> >
> > Neil
> >
>
> He'd like to do it, but doesn't think it'll interest a publisher,
and doesn't
> think there's enough fans to make it worth publishing privately.
>
> -- Rory
>

.html.html In a message dated 3/6/06 7:13:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

Is he the type of guy who would allow a web-site to host these photos
or do you think he'd keep them to himself?

Also, does he have any colour shots?  If he does, and we do go ahead
trying to get a BENEATH card set up, wouldn't it be nice to include
some of these?

Could you ask please Rory?

Michael

He feels that putting them on the web is the same as giving them away.  These are all things he's paid for and, unfortunately, he wants to make money on it.  I wish he wasn't that way about it, but he is.

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In a message dated 3/6/2006 5:25:27 P.M. Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

There's a SPOOF entitled Bounty the Hunter....Neil has started

 

It's a SPOOF?

I thought it was pretty cool.

I didn't really think of it as a spoof.,

at least not like some of the other

stuff that's obviously meant to be.

I thought it was an action packed

POTA based graphic novel.

 

 

 

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In a message dated 3/6/2006 5:25:27 P.M. Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

There IS a Bounty Hunter (Juba) story that Dave Ballard gave Neil and I to
use if and when we please. 

 

Okay, that's what I was looking at . . .

I didn't think it was a spoof.

 

 

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I can relate - I feel the same about my TV Show Icarus fronm Japan
that has some fantastic special things on it. I paid a fortune and
no other bastard seems to share anything so why be the poor mug who
pays for everyone elses enjoyment?

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 3/6/06 7:13:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> whitty@... writes:
>
>
> > Is he the type of guy who would allow a web-site to host these
photos
> > or do you think he'd keep them to himself?
> >
> > Also, does he have any colour shots? If he does, and we do go
ahead
> > trying to get a BENEATH card set up, wouldn't it be nice to
include
> > some of these?
> >
> > Could you ask please Rory?
> >
> > Michael
> >
>
> He feels that putting them on the web is the same as giving them
away. These
> are all things he's paid for and, unfortunately, he wants to make
money on
> it. I wish he wasn't that way about it, but he is.
>
> -- Rory
>

Hi, all,

Some of you know me, but most probably don't. I used to be a member
here, but got burnt on ape fandom for a while and left to focus on
other pursuits. The new Revolution comic from Mr. Comics, however,
has rekindled my interest in the POTA saga, so I thought I'd return
and see what people think of it.

I'll open with my review of the story so far...

As a child of the 70s, I grew up loving the "Apes" films and TV
shows. Every year, my mom and I looked forward to Apes Week on
channel 9, when they showed badly-butchered versions of the 5
films. Before DVDs, before video stories, we relied on TV for our
"Apes" fix, and it was never enough. I read the comics and the
novelizations and I watched the even more badly-butchered TV films
that were made from the Burke/Virdon episodes, but I wished there
were more to the story.

Ever since the Adventure Comics series ended more than a decade ago,
the only licensed "Apes" comics we've had to tide us over have been
Dark Horse's short-lived tie-in to the Burton film. And while that
series was well-written (better than the film, actually), it just
wasn't the same. Then the exceedingly talented Dave Ballard and Neil
Foster published their online "Apes" comic, "Beware the Beast," which
reminded me how much I missed the classic "Planet of the
Apes." Around that same time, Mike Whitty located a set of
incredibly rare POTA comics based on the TV series that were only
published in Argentina, and I had a lot of fun being among those who
translated them into English for the fans. (The translations are
available online, though I don't know the URL off-hand. I'm almost
finished putting together my own set of the originals, too. I'd be
interested in knowing if anyone but me and Mike has these, as I've
not seen them anywhere.)

Although Beware was brilliant and the Argentine comic project was a
hoot, I missed the fun of picking up new licensed stories at my local
comic shop. Thus, when I heard that Mr. Comics was presenting the
long-untold story of Caesar's revolution, I got that same feeling
again I used to get as a kid whenever Apes Week was approaching. --
finally, the classic apes were returning...long live the king!

Needless to say, I haven't been disappointed. The first two issues
of "Revolution on the Planet of the Apes" have been amazing. The
"Apes" team has done a fantastic job of capturing the look and feel
of the films, and the transition from "Conquest" to "Battle" is
playing out in a very entertaining, unpredictable and yet logical
manner. Ty's version of Earth is a great amalgam of "Conquest"'s
world of 1991 and our own world, 15 years later, with comments about
the National Guard and other aspects of the Iraq War lending the
story a definite relevance to our own reality. I appreciated the
irony that the Internet apparently developed as a mainstream media
source a decade earlier on the "Apes" Earth than it did on our own,
even though the "Apes" version of our government is far more openly
oppressive than the real one is is. I can't wait to see how this all
plays out.

The story of Aldo's own revolution at Area 51 is fantastic -- I can't
wait to see how that plays out. And the side stories at the end have
been a real treat as well. I'm crossing my fingers that we find out
the names of the two MacDonald brothers before this is over.

An interesting tidbit, according to the Marvel series "Terror on the
Planet of the Apes" saga, the president in power at the time of the
nuclear war survived the devastation by hiding inside Mount Rushmore,
where he eventually died alone after several years of solitude. I've
always loved the Marvel series, and it'd be wild if Ty had President
Trundy ultimately take refuge in Mount Rushmore at the end of
Revolution, as homage to the fine work of Doug Moench. (I'm not
saying I predict that will happen, mind you...just that it'd be a cool homage.)

Anway...opinions?

Rich

P.S. Although I'm set to receive my e-mails as daily digests, I'm
still getting them individually. Any idea why that's happeneing, and
how to fix it? Thanks.

Which old LP? A friend of mine just found me the soundtrack to "The
Warriors" that I've been looking for. I love it when I get new Lp's to
add to the collection. Up to around 2500 now, not counting
duplicates. :)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <nfoster@...> wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@> wrote:
> > Yes I hope it was a good one!!! Get any fun Ape
> > stuff???
>
> -- No apes stuff this year just a Slade video and an old LP I have
> been after for a while.
>
> Once again thanks everyone!
>
> neil
>

I remember Neil did some great sketches of an ape bounty hunter after
a humorus banter with Hunter Goatly. I never thought it was a serious
option. Just having some fun. I remember when we used to do that
here. Have fun.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <whitty@...> wrote:
>
> T,
>
> Just need to clarify something buddy, because an irate individual
has just
> emailed me regarding something you posted elsewhere....
>
> Neil is NOT doing a new Bounty Hunter story.
>
> There's a SPOOF entitled Bounty the Hunter....Neil has started this
and
> might one day get back to finishing it but it is LOW on the list of
> priorities.
>
> Priority one is the new comic, set Down Under. Neil is currently
> researching solar vehicles and designing futuristic versions of
these based
> on existing prototypes.
>
> We are also discussing clothing - what are our humans and apes
going to be
> wearing? If it is the standard POTA garb - how can we justify it?
Maybe
> the apes "aped" the clothes from humans? Whatever......it is a
tough call
> and when we make it that will be it so if anyone has a comment, now
is the
> time or forever hold your piece (sic).
>
> This is the story I previously mentioned where we do a "POTA BEGINS"
> scenario. It will be easy enough to squeeze in as a "prequel" to
POTA but
> it won't be intended as such.
>
> There IS a Bounty Hunter (Juba) story that Dave Ballard gave Neil
and I to
> use if and when we please. It's a good story but Dave said he
feels it
> needs a re-writre (as he said about "Monument" which was not used
either).
> The Juba story is set in the TV Show environment. Neil and I
compromised
> ourself to extremes to do a TV Show story and it was not well
received so we
> have finished it in rough only and it will be abandoned. If one
day it
> looks like it might be published, we have the project ready to pick
up and
> complete. It was a mistake to compromise my story by keeping the
first 3 or
> so pages of Monument and re-writing them. It was a mistake to go
with the
> TV series also, but we did so to hopefully please some TV show
fans. That
> was a mistake too - they are an ungrateful lot! :)
>
> So to set the record straight - NO bounty hunter comics....sorry!
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>
>
>

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In a message dated 3/6/2006 7:31:52 P.M. Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

I can relate

 

I can't.  The scans I gave Pentaclese of the rare stills

that I have weren't exactly high-res.  But I believe that

others should be able to enjoy them as well.  However

these aren't ones that I would even sell, so it's not the

same really.  It's fun to "share the rare" with everyone.

 

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In a message dated 3/6/2006 8:49:17 P.M. Central Standard Time, DrZaiusDavis@... writes:

I remember Neil did some great sketches of an ape bounty hunter after
a humorus banter with Hunter Goatly.

 

Oh yeah!  With the eggs.

 

 

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Hell....I'd settle for a book with JUST the pictures!
altho I'm sure he could write another fascinating
one.....

--- mike_oz2005 <whitty@...> wrote:

> Is he the type of guy who would allow a web-site to
> host these photos
> or do you think he'd keep them to himself?
>
> Also, does he have any colour shots? If he does,
> and we do go ahead
> trying to get a BENEATH card set up, wouldn't it be
> nice to include
> some of these?
>
> Could you ask please Rory?
>
> Michael
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 3/6/06 5:33:11 PM Eastern
> Standard Time,
> > nfoster@... writes:
> >
> >
> > > -- So do you know if these will ever see the
> light of day? Is he
> > > planning on a new book or even an updated
> version of the original
> one
> > > maybe?
> > >
> > > Neil
> > >
> >
> > He'd like to do it, but doesn't think it'll
> interest a publisher,
> and doesn't
> > think there's enough fans to make it worth
> publishing privately.
> >
> > -- Rory
> >
>
>
>
>
>

.html.html In a message dated 3/6/2006 7:01:33 AM Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

But in the scene in BENEATH, Evans has the hand makeup on!

He does not... I just watched BENEATH last night, and during the Ursus speech, Zaius IS wearing his gloves...<.html <.html

.html.html In a message dated 3/6/2006 6:18:08 PM Central Standard Time, Haristas@... writes:

Is he the type of guy who would allow a web-site to host these photos
or do you think he'd keep them to himself?

I never dealt with him at all, but my guess is he'd "keep them to himself", the same way he's been keeping the tapes of him and Ted Post watching BENEATH and he and Don Taylor watching ESCAPE to himself...<.html <.html

Oh we still do have fun - but some people get the hump! That's the
thing - over the net intentions can get blurred and misinterpreted.

Neil, to clarify, could you PLEASE (when you get a chance) re-post
the Juba sketches and the BOUNTY THE HUNTER strip (where Jurke cops
it)? And could you and John get a room to have some fun please? :)

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:
>
> I remember Neil did some great sketches of an ape bounty hunter
after
> a humorus banter with Hunter Goatly. I never thought it was a
serious
> option. Just having some fun. I remember when we used to do that
> here. Have fun.
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Whitty, Michael" <whitty@> wrote:
> >
> > T,
> >
> > Just need to clarify something buddy, because an irate individual
> has just
> > emailed me regarding something you posted elsewhere....
> >
> > Neil is NOT doing a new Bounty Hunter story.
> >
> > There's a SPOOF entitled Bounty the Hunter....Neil has started
this
> and
> > might one day get back to finishing it but it is LOW on the list
of
> > priorities.
> >
> > Priority one is the new comic, set Down Under. Neil is currently
> > researching solar vehicles and designing futuristic versions of
> these based
> > on existing prototypes.
> >
> > We are also discussing clothing - what are our humans and apes
> going to be
> > wearing? If it is the standard POTA garb - how can we justify
it?
> Maybe
> > the apes "aped" the clothes from humans? Whatever......it is a
> tough call
> > and when we make it that will be it so if anyone has a comment,
now
> is the
> > time or forever hold your piece (sic).
> >
> > This is the story I previously mentioned where we do a "POTA
BEGINS"
> > scenario. It will be easy enough to squeeze in as a "prequel" to
> POTA but
> > it won't be intended as such.
> >
> > There IS a Bounty Hunter (Juba) story that Dave Ballard gave Neil
> and I to
> > use if and when we please. It's a good story but Dave said he
> feels it
> > needs a re-writre (as he said about "Monument" which was not used
> either).
> > The Juba story is set in the TV Show environment. Neil and I
> compromised
> > ourself to extremes to do a TV Show story and it was not well
> received so we
> > have finished it in rough only and it will be abandoned. If one
> day it
> > looks like it might be published, we have the project ready to
pick
> up and
> > complete. It was a mistake to compromise my story by keeping the
> first 3 or
> > so pages of Monument and re-writing them. It was a mistake to go
> with the
> > TV series also, but we did so to hopefully please some TV show
> fans. That
> > was a mistake too - they are an ungrateful lot! :)
> >
> > So to set the record straight - NO bounty hunter comics....sorry!
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

No - the eggs were something completely different.

"And now for something completely different....a man with 3 buttocks"

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, LordTZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 3/6/2006 8:49:17 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> DrZaiusDavis@... writes:
>
> I remember Neil did some great sketches of an ape bounty hunter
after
> a humorus banter with Hunter Goatly.
>
>
>
> Oh yeah! With the eggs.
>