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Group: potadg Message: 38675 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: Collectibles
Group: potadg Message: 38676 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 38677 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: Bath Mat
Group: potadg Message: 38678 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: Bath Mat
Group: potadg Message: 38679 From: Patrick Tilton Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: To be in the Canon, or not to be...
Group: potadg Message: 38680 From: John Brandon Kirtley Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: Question for Whitty
Group: potadg Message: 38681 From: John Brandon Kirtley Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: Collectibles
Group: potadg Message: 38682 From: hill19652000 Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: Question for Whitty
Group: potadg Message: 38683 From: Neil Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 38684 From: Neil Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: Bath Mat
Group: potadg Message: 38685 From: Neil Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: Bath Mat
Group: potadg Message: 38686 From: Ty Templeton Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: RotPotA #3
Group: potadg Message: 38687 From: Neil Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: Bath Mat
Group: potadg Message: 38688 From: Neil Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: Question for Whitty
Group: potadg Message: 38689 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 38690 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 38691 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: Collectibles
Group: potadg Message: 38692 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: Bath Mat
Group: potadg Message: 38693 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: Collectibles
Group: potadg Message: 38694 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: Question for Whitty
Group: potadg Message: 38695 From: Neil Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: Bath Mat
Group: potadg Message: 38696 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: Collectibles
Group: potadg Message: 38697 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: Collectibles
Group: potadg Message: 38698 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: Collectibles
Group: potadg Message: 38699 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: Collectibles
Group: potadg Message: 38700 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Legacy Review
Group: potadg Message: 38701 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Seen this Cougar? [SEC=PERSONAL]
Group: potadg Message: 38702 From: Neil T Foster Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: (no subject)
Group: potadg Message: 38703 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Re:
Group: potadg Message: 38704 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Re: Collectibles
Group: potadg Message: 38705 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Re: Collectibles
Group: potadg Message: 38706 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: MEGO PLANET OF THE APES TREEHOUSE - GIFT SET VARIANT
Group: potadg Message: 38707 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Legacy Review
Group: potadg Message: 38708 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Re:
Group: potadg Message: 38709 From: John Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Issue 79 on Hunter's site
Group: potadg Message: 38710 From: John Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Re: MEGO PLANET OF THE APES TREEHOUSE - GIFT SET VARIANT
Group: potadg Message: 38711 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Re: Issue 79 on Hunter's site
Group: potadg Message: 38712 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Re: {Disarmed} Re: [PotaDG]
Group: potadg Message: 38713 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Re: Bath Mat
Group: potadg Message: 38714 From: John Brandon Kirtley Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Re: Collectibles
Group: potadg Message: 38715 From: John Brandon Kirtley Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Re: Collectibles
Group: potadg Message: 38716 From: John Brandon Kirtley Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Re: Collectibles
Group: potadg Message: 38717 From: Dario Sciola Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Re: Apesfan
Group: potadg Message: 38718 From: Neil Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Re: MEGO PLANET OF THE APES TREEHOUSE - GIFT SET VARIANT
Group: potadg Message: 38719 From: Neil Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Re: Issue 79 on Hunter's site
Group: potadg Message: 38720 From: Neil Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Re:
Group: potadg Message: 38721 From: Neil Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: {Disarmed} Re: [PotaDG]
Group: potadg Message: 38722 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Re:
Group: potadg Message: 38723 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Re: Collectibles
Group: potadg Message: 38724 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Re:
Group: potadg Message: 38725 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Re: MEGO PLANET OF THE APES TREEHOUSE - GIFT SET VARIANT
Group: potadg Message: 38726 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Re: Issue 79 on Hunter's site
Group: potadg Message: 38727 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Re: Collectibles
Group: potadg Message: 38728 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Re: Apesfan
Group: potadg Message: 38729 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Re: Apesfan
Group: potadg Message: 38730 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: 70's TV
Group: potadg Message: 38731 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Re: Legacy Review
Group: potadg Message: 38732 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Re: {Disarmed} Re: [PotaDG]
Group: potadg Message: 38733 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Re:
Group: potadg Message: 38734 From: John Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Re: Apesfan
Group: potadg Message: 38735 From: John Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Re: MEGO PLANET OF THE APES TREEHOUSE - GIFT SET VARIANT
Group: potadg Message: 38736 From: Whitty Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Re:
Group: potadg Message: 38737 From: Whitty Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: MEGO PLANET OF THE APES TREEHOUSE - GIFT SET VARIANT
Group: potadg Message: 38738 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Funnies [SEC=PERSONAL]
Group: potadg Message: 38739 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Re: Funnies [SEC=PERSONAL]
Group: potadg Message: 38740 From: Neil T Foster Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Re:
Group: potadg Message: 38741 From: Neil T Foster Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Re: Apesfan
Group: potadg Message: 38742 From: Neil T Foster Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Re: Funnies [SEC=PERSONAL]
Group: potadg Message: 38743 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Re: Collectibles
Group: potadg Message: 38744 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 4/19/2006
Subject: Re: Apesfan
Group: potadg Message: 38745 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/20/2006
Subject: Re: Collectibles
Group: potadg Message: 38746 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/20/2006
Subject: Re: Collectibles
Group: potadg Message: 38747 From: patrickmichaeltilton Date: 4/20/2006
Subject: Re: Legacy Review
Group: potadg Message: 38748 From: patrickmichaeltilton Date: 4/20/2006
Subject: Re: Apesfan
Group: potadg Message: 38749 From: patrickmichaeltilton Date: 4/20/2006
Subject: Re: RotPotA #3
Group: potadg Message: 38750 From: Ty Templeton Date: 4/20/2006
Subject: Re: RotPotA #3
Group: potadg Message: 38751 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/20/2006
Subject: Re: RotPotA #3
Group: potadg Message: 38752 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/20/2006
Subject: Re: RotPotA #3
Group: potadg Message: 38753 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/20/2006
Subject: Re: Legacy Review
Group: potadg Message: 38754 From: rassmguy Date: 4/20/2006
Subject: Re: RotPotA #3
Group: potadg Message: 38755 From: rassmguy Date: 4/20/2006
Subject: Re: RotPotA #3
Group: potadg Message: 38756 From: rassmguy Date: 4/20/2006
Subject: Re: Legacy Review
Group: potadg Message: 38757 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 4/20/2006
Subject: More on that timeline issue...
Group: potadg Message: 38758 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 4/20/2006
Subject: Re: RotPotA #3
Group: potadg Message: 38759 From: Ty Templeton Date: 4/20/2006
Subject: Re: More on that timeline issue...
Group: potadg Message: 38760 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 4/21/2006
Subject: Re: More on that timeline issue...
Group: potadg Message: 38761 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/21/2006
Subject: Re: Legacy Review
Group: potadg Message: 38762 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/21/2006
Subject: Re: Legacy Review
Group: potadg Message: 38763 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/21/2006
Subject: Page Two
Group: potadg Message: 38764 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/21/2006
Subject: Page 3
Group: potadg Message: 38765 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/21/2006
Subject: Page Four
Group: potadg Message: 38766 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/21/2006
Subject: Page One
Group: potadg Message: 38767 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/21/2006
Subject: Page Five
Group: potadg Message: 38768 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/21/2006
Subject: Page Six Last Page!
Group: potadg Message: 38769 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/21/2006
Subject: Re: Page Two
Group: potadg Message: 38770 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/21/2006
Subject: Re: Page Two
Group: potadg Message: 38771 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 4/21/2006
Subject: Re: Legacy Review
Group: potadg Message: 38772 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 4/21/2006
Subject: Re: Page Two
Group: potadg Message: 38773 From: John Brandon Kirtley Date: 4/21/2006
Subject: Re: Apesfan
Group: potadg Message: 38774 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/21/2006
Subject: Re: Page Two


Group: potadg Message: 38675 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: Collectibles
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Yes they were listed quite a while ago....havent seen
them since.....

--- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:

> Oh I mean quite a while ago they were listed on
> ebay?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Tim "apefan"
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 8:32 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles
>
> They were put out when everything else was....'74
> most
> likely...
>
> Tim
>
> --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:
>
> > Tim, are these quite old?
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> > Of Tim "apefan"
> > Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 2:11 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota_tv] Power Records
> >
> > Here's a few things I was surprised to find on
> > ebay...I did not get them as they are so rare I
> > couldn't stay in the bidding.......!
> >
> > Slip on Ape feet.....inflatable floating vest
> ...and
> > a
> > radio! I thought I had a pic of the POTA BATHMAT!
> > but
> > I can't find it....apparently rare because they
> were
> > used and got all mildewy I guess....
> >
> > TIm
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:
> >
> > > There sure could be.
> > >
> > > Every year something comes up no other fan ever
> > knew
> > > about.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> > > Of Neil
> > > Sent: Monday, 17 April 2006 8:40 AM
> > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: [pota_tv] Power Records
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty"
> > > <whitty@...> wrote:
> > > > These finds really excite me!
> > > > I always thought there was a counter display
> for
> > > the Power Records
> > > (the movies) - I have a recollection of these.
> > But
> > > I really don't
> > > trust this ancient memory!
> > > > It's great to see things like this.
> > >
> > > -- Makes you wonder what else is out there that
> > > hasn't surfaced,
> > > surely there couldn't be too much more stuff
> could
> > > there?
> > >
> >
> > --
> >
>
>
> >


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Group: potadg Message: 38676 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
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Not at all...do what you need to do......let me know
if I need to post pics elsewhere in the future....

--- Neil <nfoster@...> wrote:

> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\""
> <apefan23@...> wrote:
> > Oh... I think it does......!
>
> -- Tim do you mind if I delete a couple of the
> photos and upload
> smaller versions of them? It's just that, like you
> said, some of them
> are large files (such as the Nova and Zaius pics)
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
>
>


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Group: potadg Message: 38677 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: Bath Mat
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Yes! That's it! Now do you happen to have pics of the
bean bag chair, the inflatable wading pool, the fuzzy
pillows or the drum set?

--- Neil T Foster <nfoster@...> wrote:

> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\""
> <apefan23@...> wrote:
> > thanks Neil.....don't know why I can't find it!
>
> -- Okay, it's not the best shot of it but I have
> uploaded it to the
>
<http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/photos/browse/4ac1>
> Collectibles folder in the Photos Section:
>
>
http://movies.ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/photos/view/4ac1?b=55
>
> Neil
>
>


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Group: potadg Message: 38678 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: Bath Mat
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.html.html In a message dated 4/18/2006 10:55:28 AM Central Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:


Yes! That's it! Now do you happen to have pics of the
bean bag chair, the inflatable wading pool, the fuzzy
pillows or the drum set?


Gotta love those hunting chimps...

Obviously they used pictures from the TV series as the basis for the drawings, as that one in the lower right corner looks like that photo of Galen which was from the opening scene of "The Gladiators"...
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Group: potadg Message: 38679 From: Patrick Tilton Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: To be in the Canon, or not to be...
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--- Haristas@... wrote:

> In a message dated 4/18/06 6:55:36 AM Eastern
> Daylight Time,
> patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:
>
>
> > *** As far as I'm concerned, it's "canon" that
Taylor's EARTH-TIME chronometer read "11-25-3978" on
it, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the clock
was telling the correct time.
>
> It was telling "the correct time" because PLANET was
made first, is a film independent of its sequels, and
no one involved in its making had any thought of a
sequel or sequels!
>
> You BASTARDIZE the original film, Patrick, when you
INSIST that it now be looked at differently because of
weak and inferior sequels! It is blasphemy and heresy
of the highest order -- and you should be HANGED for
it!
>
> -- Rory

*** Then consider this a mixed blessing, Rory, but I'm
already well hung, thankyouverymuch!

badum-KSHHH!

Patrick, the LousyHumanBastardizer


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Group: potadg Message: 38680 From: John Brandon Kirtley Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: Question for Whitty
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Dear Steve,
 
I live in the UK, what ape figures do you still need to sell?
Hope you are wll
 
JBK
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve
Sent: 17 April 2006 01:15
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Question for Whitty

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "hill19652000" <shop@...> wrote:

>  I finally got a few Sideshow figures including the slave Taylor and
> Nova double pack and the Lawgiver all on discount. I alwaws thought
> Sideshow were too expensive and traditionally in the UK most end up
> on discount if your patient. (i'm not sure if anyone here knows but
> I own a comic shop so it's pretty easy to buy off my self. )
> The thing with the figures is I also think it's a case of
>  diminishing returns, how many times do you need to buy a Zaius
> particularly when you have a shelf full already? So each new version
> has to be a vast improvement on the last to have any chance of
> shifting numbers and if it's not...
> Best Graham.

Hey Graham. If you have some of them sitting around that you're looking
to unload to free up shelf space, Let Me Know. :)

Steve



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Group: potadg Message: 38681 From: John Brandon Kirtley Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: Collectibles
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Dear Tim,
 
I have been looking for the very rare (by the looks of things) small iron on transfers. I bought one on holiday in 75/6. They were about three inches in diameter and were great head paintings of the TV characters. I had Galen ironed onto my jeans and remember being in love with the artwork.
Never heard of them or seen them since. Has anyone else?
 
JBK
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 18 April 2006 16:48
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Collectibles

Yes they were listed quite a while ago....havent seen
them since.....

--- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:

> Oh I mean quite a while ago they were listed on
> ebay?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Tim "apefan"
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 8:32 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles
> 
> They were put out when everything else was....'74
> most
> likely...
>
> Tim
>
> --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:
>
> > Tim, are these quite old?
> > 
> > Michael
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> > Of Tim "apefan"
> > Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 2:11 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota_tv] Power Records
> > 
> > Here's a few things I was surprised to find on
> > ebay...I did not get them as they are so rare I
> > couldn't stay in the bidding.......!
> >
> > Slip on Ape feet.....inflatable floating vest
> ...and
> > a
> > radio! I thought I had a pic of the POTA BATHMAT!
> > but
> > I can't find it....apparently rare because they
> were
> > used and got all mildewy I guess....
> >
> > TIm
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:
> >
> > > There sure could be.
> > > 
> > > Every year something comes up no other fan ever
> > knew
> > > about.
> > > 
> > > Michael
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> > > Of Neil
> > > Sent: Monday, 17 April 2006 8:40 AM
> > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: [pota_tv] Power Records
> > > 
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty"
> > > <whitty@...> wrote:
> > > > These finds really excite me!
> > > > I always thought there was a counter display
> for
> > > the Power Records
> > > (the movies) - I have a recollection of these.
> > But
> > > I really don't
> > > trust this ancient memory!
> > > > It's great to see things like this.
> > >
> > > -- Makes you wonder what else is out there that
> > > hasn't surfaced,
> > > surely there couldn't be too much more stuff
> could
> > > there?
> > >
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Group: potadg Message: 38682 From: hill19652000 Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: Question for Whitty
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Neil" <nfoster@...> wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "hill19652000" <shop@> wrote:
> > (i'm not sure if anyone here knows but
> > I own a comic shop so it's pretty easy to buy off my self. )
>
> -- So Graham, how are your sales of Revolution going, good or are
you
> the only Apes fan in your area?
>
> Neil
>


Not too bad , I'd put them as moderate. Although I hate to admit it
we
shifted more of the POTA2001 from Dark Horse. In the intervening
years
we've lost a few customers who would almost certainly been down for
the new series. An other thing thats changed in that time is the
amount of people that wait for the trade paperback collection. The
fight for Shelf space and customer attention is so fierce now that
many new comics just get lost in the sea of product,literally only
having a few days to find an audience. So glad to see Ty mention a
trade collection this will give the work time to stand on its own
merits.
Best Graham.
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
> Not at all...do what you need to do......let me know
> if I need to post pics elsewhere in the future....

-- Thanks Tim I'll get onto it as soon as...

Neil
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Subject: Re: Bath Mat
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
> Yes! That's it! Now do you happen to have pics of the
> bean bag chair, the inflatable wading pool, the fuzzy
> pillows or the drum set?

-- No, afraid not.

Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 38685 From: Neil Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: Bath Mat
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
> Yes! That's it! Now do you happen to have pics of the
> bean bag chair, the inflatable wading pool, the fuzzy
> pillows or the drum set?

-- Any one else have pictures of these?

Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 38686 From: Ty Templeton Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: RotPotA #3
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ABSOLUTELY we are aware of Project 13.

I have a copy of the film...more or less based on a true story, by the way.

Ty

On 4/18/06, patrickmichaeltilton <patrickmichaeltilton@...> wrote:
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Ty Templeton" <tybunny@...> wrote:
>
> Yes he does.
>
> www.rodierstudio.com
>
> Drop in and visit, and say I sent you, Denis loves folks to come
see what he does.
>
> And if you read the first two stories, you'll remember the humans
at the military installation were specifically training the apes to
fly planes, and were messing with the brains as well...we CURRENTLY
have chimps who can fly simulators, so why not trained gorillas with
brain altering tech?
>
> Anyway, you're right...it's a cool cover.
>
> Ty the Guy.

*** Hey, Ty, I hope you dudes don't get sued by the makers of that
Matthew Broderick movie... you know, the one with the chimps being
tested in a simulator and getting zapped with radiation, just to see
how long they can fly an airplane to its target during a nuclear war.
I think it was called "PROJECT X". When the chimps take over that
military testing facility, it sorta reminded me of "CONQUEST".

It was a good movie (I thought so, anyway), and I'm wondering if you
guys were aware of it when you thought up this Revolution storyline.
There IS a resemblance, don't ya think?

Patrick





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Group: potadg Message: 38687 From: Neil Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: Bath Mat
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , mlccougar@... wrote:
> Gotta love those hunting chimps...
> Obviously they used pictures from the TV series as the basis for the
> drawings, as that one in the lower right corner looks like that
photo of Galen which
> was from the opening scene of "The Gladiators"...

-- And the one on the left is also from a photo of Galen that I have
seen, they have just shoved a gun in his hands.

The 2 gorillas on the horses remind me of a panel from the hunt
sequence from the Marvel adaptation of Planet.

Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 38688 From: Neil Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: Question for Whitty
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "hill19652000" <shop@...> wrote:
> Not too bad , I'd put them as moderate. Although I hate to admit it
> we shifted more of the POTA2001 from Dark Horse.

-- Oh dear... ;-)

> So glad to see Ty mention a
> trade collection this will give the work time to stand on its own
> merits.

-- Speaking of which, is there any firm date for the release of the
TPB Ty? Or is that getting a bit too ahead of things?

Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 38689 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
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Hello,

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Group: potadg Message: 38691 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/18/2006
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I saw the “feet” in original package.  I think they went for around $800

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2006 1:49 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Collectibles

 

Yes they were listed quite a while ago....havent seen
them since.....

--- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:

> Oh I mean quite a while ago they were listed on
> ebay?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Tim "apefan"
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 8:32 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles
> 
> They were put out when everything else was....'74
> most
> likely...
>
> Tim
>
> --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:
>
> > Tim, are these quite old?
> > 
> > Michael
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> > Of Tim "apefan"
> > Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 2:11 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota_tv] Power Records
> > 
> > Here's a few things I was surprised to find on
> > ebay...I did not get them as they are so rare I
> > couldn't stay in the bidding.......!
> >
> > Slip on Ape feet.....inflatable floating vest
> ...and
> > a
> > radio! I thought I had a pic of the POTA BATHMAT!
> > but
> > I can't find it....apparently rare because they
> were
> > used and got all mildewy I guess....
> >

> > TIm

> >
> >
> >


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Group: potadg Message: 38692 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/18/2006
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And they used the comics as a reference for the logo.....

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2006 1:59 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Bath Mat

 

In a message dated 4/18/2006 10:55:28 AM Central Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:



Yes! That's it! Now do you happen to have pics of the
bean bag chair, the inflatable wading pool, the fuzzy
pillows or the drum set?



Gotta love those hunting chimps...

Obviously they used pictures from the TV series as the basis for the drawings, as that one in the lower right corner looks like that photo of Galen which was from the opening scene of "The Gladiators"...

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Group: potadg Message: 38693 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: Collectibles
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Not sure how you got them on your jeans but yes I know the ones – beautiful colours and there’s Galen, Urko and Zaius.

 

How bad do you want them? – I think I could get a set for you....

 

Michael

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Brandon Kirtley
Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2006 3:56 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles

 

Dear Tim,

 

I have been looking for the very rare (by the looks of things) small iron on transfers. I bought one on holiday in 75/6. They were about three inches in diameter and were great head paintings of the TV characters. I had Galen ironed onto my jeans and remember being in love with the artwork.

Never heard of them or seen them since. Has anyone else?

 

JBK

----- Original Message -----

From: Tim "apefan"

Sent: 18 April 2006 16:48

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Collectibles

 

Yes they were listed quite a while ago....havent seen
them since.....

--- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:

> Oh I mean quite a while ago they were listed on
> ebay?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Tim "apefan"
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 8:32 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles
> 
> They were put out when everything else was....'74
> most
> likely...
>
> Tim
>
> --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:
>
> > Tim, are these quite old?
> > 
> > Michael
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> > Of Tim "apefan"
> > Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 2:11 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota_tv] Power Records
> > 
> > Here's a few things I was surprised to find on
> > ebay...I did not get them as they are so rare I
> > couldn't stay in the bidding.......!
> >
> > Slip on Ape feet.....inflatable floating vest
> ...and
> > a
> > radio! I thought I had a pic of the POTA BATHMAT!
> > but
> > I can't find it....apparently rare because they
> were
> > used and got all mildewy I guess....
> >
> > TIm
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:
> >
> > > There sure could be.
> > > 
> > > Every year something comes up no other fan ever
> > knew
> > > about.
> > > 
> > > Michael
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> > > Of Neil
> > > Sent: Monday, 17 April 2006 8:40 AM
> > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: [pota_tv] Power Records
> > > 
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty"
> > > <whitty@...> wrote:
> > > > These finds really excite me!
> > > > I always thought there was a counter display
> for
> > > the Power Records
> > > (the movies) - I have a recollection of these.
> > But
> > > I really don't
> > > trust this ancient memory!
> > > > It's great to see things like this.
> > >
> > > -- Makes you wonder what else is out there that
> > > hasn't surfaced,
> > > surely there couldn't be too much more stuff
> could
> > > there?
> > >
> >
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Group: potadg Message: 38694 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/18/2006
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Thing HAVE changed!

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of hill19652000
Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2006 6:06 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Question for Whitty

 

Not too bad , I'd put them as moderate. Although I hate to admit it
we
shifted more of the POTA2001 from Dark Horse. In the intervening
years
we've lost a few customers who would almost certainly been down for
the new series. An other thing thats changed in that time is the
amount of people that wait for the trade paperback collection. The
fight for Shelf space and customer attention is so fierce now that
many new comics just get lost in the sea of product,literally only
having a few days to find an audience. So glad to see Ty mention a
trade collection this will give the work time to stand on its own
merits.
Best Graham.


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Group: potadg Message: 38695 From: Neil Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: Bath Mat
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
> And they used the comics as a reference for the logo.....

-- So they did. I didn't even notice that!

Neil
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Group: potadg Message: 38696 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/18/2006
Subject: Re: Collectibles
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Attachments :
    Hey JBK.....

    The iron on transfers are a bit bigger than 3
    inches...or at least the ones I have......the Zaius
    one I have printed on a shirt from when I was a kid
    is about 8 x10....I also have all three (Zaius, Galen
    and Urko) that are "un-ironed on".....they are about 9
    x 11 ....I bought these a few years ago and I was
    thinking that they were original and just never used
    but now that I have seen them popping up alot I'm
    thinking that they are re-issued "pop culture"
    transfers......Still pretty cool though! Do you happen
    to have a pic of the smaller versions? Here are pics
    of mine...

    Tim

    --- John Brandon Kirtley <johnbkirtley@...>
    wrote:

    > Dear Tim,
    >
    > I have been looking for the very rare (by the looks
    > of things) small iron on transfers. I bought one on
    > holiday in 75/6. They were about three inches in
    > diameter and were great head paintings of the TV
    > characters. I had Galen ironed onto my jeans and
    > remember being in love with the artwork.
    > Never heard of them or seen them since. Has anyone
    > else?
    >
    > JBK
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: Tim "apefan"<mailto:apefan23@...>
    > To:
    >
    PotaDG@yahoogroups.com<mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
    >
    > Sent: 18 April 2006 16:48
    > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Collectibles
    >
    >
    > Yes they were listed quite a while ago....havent
    > seen
    > them since.....
    >
    > --- Michael Whitty
    >
    <whitty@...<mailto:whitty@...>>
    > wrote:
    >
    > > Oh I mean quite a while ago they were listed on
    > > ebay?
    > >
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From:
    >
    PotaDG@yahoogroups.com<mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
    > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
    > > Of Tim "apefan"
    > > Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 8:32 AM
    > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles
    > >
    > > They were put out when everything else
    > was....'74
    > > most
    > > likely...
    > >
    > > Tim
    > >
    > > --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...>
    > wrote:
    > >
    > > > Tim, are these quite old?
    > > >
    > > > Michael
    > > >
    > > > -----Original Message-----
    > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
    > > > Of Tim "apefan"
    > > > Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 2:11 AM
    > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota_tv] Power
    > Records
    > > >
    > > > Here's a few things I was surprised to find on
    > > > ebay...I did not get them as they are so rare
    > I
    > > > couldn't stay in the bidding.......!
    > > >
    > > > Slip on Ape feet.....inflatable floating vest
    > > ...and
    > > > a
    > > > radio! I thought I had a pic of the POTA
    > BATHMAT!
    > > > but
    > > > I can't find it....apparently rare because
    > they
    > > were
    > > > used and got all mildewy I guess....
    > > >
    > > > TIm
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...>
    > wrote:
    > > >
    > > > > There sure could be.
    > > > >
    > > > > Every year something comes up no other fan
    > ever
    > > > knew
    > > > > about.
    > > > >
    > > > > Michael
    > > > >
    > > > > -----Original Message-----
    > > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > > > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
    > > > > Of Neil
    > > > > Sent: Monday, 17 April 2006 8:40 AM
    > > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > > > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: [pota_tv] Power
    > Records
    > > > >
    > > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael
    > Whitty"
    > > > > <whitty@...> wrote:
    > > > > > These finds really excite me!
    > > > > > I always thought there was a counter
    > display
    > > for
    > > > > the Power Records
    > > > > (the movies) - I have a recollection of
    > these.
    > > > But
    > > > > I really don't
    > > > > trust this ancient memory!
    > > > > > It's great to see things like this.
    > > > >
    > > > > -- Makes you wonder what else is out there
    > that
    > > > > hasn't surfaced,
    > > > > surely there couldn't be too much more stuff
    > > could
    > > > > there?
    > > > >
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >
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    Group: potadg Message: 38697 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/18/2006
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    damn.........



    --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:

    > I saw the "feet" in original package. I think they
    > went for around $800
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
    > Of Tim "apefan"
    > Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2006 1:49 AM
    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Collectibles
    >
    > Yes they were listed quite a while ago....havent
    > seen
    > them since.....
    >
    > --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:
    >
    > > Oh I mean quite a while ago they were listed on
    > > ebay?
    > >
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
    > > Of Tim "apefan"
    > > Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 8:32 AM
    > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles
    > >
    > > They were put out when everything else was....'74
    > > most
    > > likely...
    > >
    > > Tim
    > >
    > > --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:
    > >
    > > > Tim, are these quite old?
    > > >
    > > > Michael
    > > >
    > > > -----Original Message-----
    > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
    > > > Of Tim "apefan"
    > > > Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 2:11 AM
    > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota_tv] Power
    > Records
    > > >
    > > > Here's a few things I was surprised to find on
    > > > ebay...I did not get them as they are so rare I
    > > > couldn't stay in the bidding.......!
    > > >
    > > > Slip on Ape feet.....inflatable floating vest
    > > ...and
    > > > a
    > > > radio! I thought I had a pic of the POTA
    > BATHMAT!
    > > > but
    > > > I can't find it....apparently rare because they
    > > were
    > > > used and got all mildewy I guess....
    > > >
    > > > TIm
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    >
    > --
    >


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    Group: potadg Message: 38699 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/18/2006
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      Oddly enough I just realized after looking for those
      portrait pics,,,,,that this iron on pic of Galen is
      actually Caesar! see attached...

      Tim


      --- "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:

      > Hey JBK.....
      >
      > The iron on transfers are a bit bigger than 3
      > inches...or at least the ones I have......the Zaius
      > one I have printed on a shirt from when I was a kid
      > is about 8 x10....I also have all three (Zaius,
      > Galen
      > and Urko) that are "un-ironed on".....they are about
      > 9
      > x 11 ....I bought these a few years ago and I was
      > thinking that they were original and just never used
      > but now that I have seen them popping up alot I'm
      > thinking that they are re-issued "pop culture"
      > transfers......Still pretty cool though! Do you
      > happen
      > to have a pic of the smaller versions? Here are pics
      > of mine...
      >
      > Tim

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      .html.html Not much of a review here -- he gets details wrong, but the guy's comments about BATTLE made me laugh.

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      Group: potadg Message: 38701 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 4/19/2006
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      Group: potadg Message: 38702 From: Neil T Foster Date: 4/19/2006
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        Group: potadg Message: 38703 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/19/2006
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          Very fucking good man!

          Rory’s going to hate it!  J

          What’s a good time to ring you tonight?

           

          -----Original Message-----
          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
          Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2006 7:27 PM
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [PotaDG]

           

           

          Neil

           

           


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          Group: potadg Message: 38704 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/19/2006
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          Can anyone here use photoshop to superimpose?

          Michael

           

          -----Original Message-----
          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
          Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2006 11:40 AM
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles

           

          Oddly enough I just realized after looking for those
          portrait pics,,,,,that this iron on pic of Galen is
          actually Caesar! see attached...

          Tim


          --- "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:

          > Hey JBK.....
          >
          > The iron on transfers are a bit bigger than 3
          > inches...or at least the ones I have......the Zaius
          > one I have printed on a shirt  from when I was a kid
          > is about 8 x10....I also have all three (Zaius,
          > Galen
          > and Urko) that are "un-ironed on".....they are about
          > 9
          > x 11 ....I bought these a few years ago  and I was
          > thinking that they were original and just never used
          > but now that I have seen them popping up alot I'm
          > thinking that they are re-issued "pop culture"
          > transfers......Still pretty cool though! Do you
          > happen
          > to have a pic of the smaller versions? Here are pics
          > of mine...
          >
          > Tim

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          Tim

           

          I believe these ARE the originals.

           

          Michael

           

          -----Original Message-----
          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
          Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2006 9:32 AM
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles

           

          Hey JBK.....

          The iron on transfers are a bit bigger than 3
          inches...or at least the ones I have......the Zaius
          one I have printed on a shirt  from when I was a kid
          is about 8 x10....I also have all three (Zaius, Galen
          and Urko) that are "un-ironed on".....they are about 9
          x 11 ....I bought these a few years ago  and I was
          thinking that they were original and just never used
          but now that I have seen them popping up alot I'm
          thinking that they are re-issued "pop culture"
          transfers......Still pretty cool though! Do you happen
          to have a pic of the smaller versions? Here are pics
          of mine...

          Tim

          --- John Brandon Kirtley <johnbkirtley@...>
          wrote:

          > Dear Tim,
          >
          > I have been looking for the very rare (by the looks
          > of things) small iron on transfers. I bought one on
          > holiday in 75/6. They were about three inches in
          > diameter and were great head paintings of the TV
          > characters. I had Galen ironed onto my jeans and
          > remember being in love with the artwork.
          > Never heard of them or seen them since. Has anyone
          > else?
          >
          > JBK
          >   ----- Original Message -----
          >   From: Tim "apefan"<mailto:apefan23@...>
          >   To:
          >
          PotaDG@yahoogroups.com<mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
          >
          >   Sent: 18 April 2006 16:48
          >   Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Collectibles
          >
          >
          >   Yes they were listed quite a while ago....havent
          > seen
          >   them since.....
          >
          >   --- Michael Whitty
          >
          <whitty@...<mailto:whitty@...>>
          > wrote:
          >
          >   > Oh I mean quite a while ago they were listed on
          >   > ebay?
          >   > 
          >   > -----Original Message-----
          >   > From:
          >
          PotaDG@yahoogroups.com<mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
          >   > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
          >   > Of Tim "apefan"
          >   > Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 8:32 AM
          >   > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          >   > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles
          >   > 
          >   > They were put out when everything else
          > was....'74
          >   > most
          >   > likely...
          >   >
          >   > Tim
          >   >
          >   > --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...>
          > wrote:
          >   >
          >   > > Tim, are these quite old?
          >   > > 
          >   > > Michael
          >   > > 
          >   > > -----Original Message-----
          >   > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          >   > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
          >   > > Of Tim "apefan"
          >   > > Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 2:11 AM
          >   > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          >   > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota_tv] Power
          > Records
          >   > > 
          >   > > Here's a few things I was surprised to find on
          >   > > ebay...I did not get them as they are so rare
          > I
          >   > > couldn't stay in the bidding.......!
          >   > >
          >   > > Slip on Ape feet.....inflatable floating vest
          >   > ...and
          >   > > a
          >   > > radio! I thought I had a pic of the POTA
          > BATHMAT!
          >   > > but
          >   > > I can't find it....apparently rare because
          > they
          >   > were
          >   > > used and got all mildewy I guess....
          >   > >
          >   > > TIm
          >   > >
          >   > >
          >   > >
          >   > > --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...>
          > wrote:
          >   > >
          >   > > > There sure could be.
          >   > > > 
          >   > > > Every year something comes up no other fan
          > ever
          >   > > knew
          >   > > > about.
          >   > > > 
          >   > > > Michael
          >   > > > 
          >   > > > -----Original Message-----
          >   > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          >   > > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
          >   > > > Of Neil
          >   > > > Sent: Monday, 17 April 2006 8:40 AM
          >   > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          >   > > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: [pota_tv] Power
          > Records
          >   > > > 
          >   > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael
          > Whitty"
          >   > > > <whitty@...> wrote:
          >   > > > > These finds really excite me!
          >   > > > > I always thought there was a counter
          > display
          >   > for
          >   > > > the Power Records
          >   > > > (the movies) - I have a recollection of
          > these.
          >   > > But
          >   > > > I really don't
          >   > > > trust this ancient memory!
          >   > > > > It's great to see things like this.
          >   > > >
          >   > > > -- Makes you wonder what else is out there
          > that
          >   > > > hasn't surfaced,
          >   > > > surely there couldn't be too much more stuff
          >   > could
          >   > > > there?
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          Group: potadg Message: 38706 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/19/2006
          Subject: MEGO PLANET OF THE APES TREEHOUSE - GIFT SET VARIANT
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          This is the one I mentioned (to Jeff maybe?) a while back.

           

          Neat how it comes with a full set of dollies eh?

          Michael

           

          -----Original Message-----
          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
          Sent:           Wednesday, 19 April 2006 9:44 AM
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Collectibles

           

          Anyone betting on this?? Still have four days
          left......!

          http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6051355402&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

          Tim


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          Group: potadg Message: 38707 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/19/2006
          Subject: Legacy Review
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          Thanks Rory.

           

          I think this is the bit you like:

           

          “Completists might be annoyed that neither package contains the theatrical release of Battle, leaving the truly anal-retentive holding on to one disc from the old set, but the fanbase of that film is virtually non-existent — though it is arguably more entertaining that the Burton version.”

           

           

           

          -----Original Message-----
          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Haristas@...
          Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2006 12:21 PM
          To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [PotaDG] Legacy Review

           

          Not much of a review here -- he gets details wrong, but the guy's comments about BATTLE made me laugh.

          http://www.dvdjournal.com/quickreviews/p/planetoftheapes_lc.q..html"

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          Group: potadg Message: 38708 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/19/2006
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          It wasn't that funny. 
           
          -----Original Message-----
          From: Michael Whitty <whitty@...>
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:51:23 +1000
          Subject: RE: [PotaDG]

          Very fucking good man!

          <![endif]>
          Rory's going to hate it!  J

          What's a good time to ring you tonight?
           
          -----Original Message-----
          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
          Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2006 7:27 PM
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [PotaDG]
           
          [Image removed]
           
          Neil
           
           

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          Group: potadg Message: 38709 From: John Date: 4/19/2006
          Subject: Issue 79 on Hunter's site
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          Well, since Greg is on vacation I thought I'd let any of the other
          comic fiends needing their fix know that Issue 79 is availible on
          Hunter's site. It has a pretty cool B/W photo of the TV Zaius like the
          one recently posted, and some cool behind the scenes photos from
          Conquest.
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          Group: potadg Message: 38710 From: John Date: 4/19/2006
          Subject: Re: MEGO PLANET OF THE APES TREEHOUSE - GIFT SET VARIANT
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          This is the set that started it all for me. There is a pic of me
          getting this for Christmas when I was 2 yrs old in the member photos.
          Started my obsession that's lasted a lifetime.






          --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
          >
          > This is the one I mentioned (to Jeff maybe?) a while back.
          >
          > Neat how it comes with a full set of dollies eh?
          >
          > Michael
          >
          > -----Original Message-----
          > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
          Behalf
          > Of Tim "apefan"
          > Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2006 9:44 AM
          > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Collectibles
          >
          > Anyone betting on this?? Still have four days
          > left......!
          >
          > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem
          > <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
          ViewItem&item=6051355402&rd=1&sspa
          > gename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1>
          > &item=6051355402&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
          >
          > Tim
          >
          > --
          >
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          Group: potadg Message: 38711 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/19/2006
          Subject: Re: Issue 79 on Hunter's site
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          Thanks John!

           

          Michael

           

          -----Original Message-----
          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John
          Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2006 11:53 PM
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [PotaDG] Issue 79 on Hunter's site

           

          Well, since Greg is on vacation I thought I'd let any of the other
          comic fiends needing their fix know that Issue 79 is availible on
          Hunter's site. It has a pretty cool B/W photo of the TV Zaius like the
          one           recently posted, and some cool behind the scenes photos from
          Conquest.


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          Group: potadg Message: 38712 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/19/2006
          Subject: Re: {Disarmed} Re: [PotaDG]
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          Yeah, but you don’t like comics so you are biased.  ;)

           

          -----Original Message-----
          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Haristas@...
          Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2006 11:27 PM
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: {Disarmed} Re: [PotaDG]

           

          It wasn't that funny. 

           
          -----Original Message-----
          From: Michael Whitty <whitty@...>
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 19:51:23 +1000
          Subject: RE: [PotaDG]

          Very fucking good man!

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          Group: potadg Message: 38713 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 4/19/2006
          Subject: Re: Bath Mat
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          .html.html In a message dated 4/18/2006 4:32:58 PM Central Standard Time, nfoster@... writes:

          The 2 gorillas on the horses remind me of a panel from the hunt
          sequence  from the Marvel adaptation of Planet.


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          Group: potadg Message: 38714 From: John Brandon Kirtley Date: 4/19/2006
          Subject: Re: Collectibles
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          Dear Tim,
           
          These look great but not the ones I mean. They were small head paintings that weren't for tea-shirts. I think they were for jeans or jackets or whatever. I haven't ever seen them in any pota sale or collectable list. Maybe they weren't official
          pota stuff. They were very well done though. I unfortunatly
          don’t have a copy or any information on them whatsoever.
           
          Maybe we can put out a call on the message boards?
           
          JBK
          ----- Original Message -----
          Sent: 19 April 2006 00:31
          Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles

          Hey JBK.....

          The iron on transfers are a bit bigger than 3
          inches...or at least the ones I have......the Zaius
          one I have printed on a shirt  from when I was a kid
          is about 8 x10....I also have all three (Zaius, Galen
          and Urko) that are "un-ironed on".....they are about 9
          x 11 ....I bought these a few years ago  and I was
          thinking that they were original and just never used
          but now that I have seen them popping up alot I'm
          thinking that they are re-issued "pop culture"
          transfers......Still pretty cool though! Do you happen
          to have a pic of the smaller versions? Here are pics
          of mine...

          Tim

          --- John Brandon Kirtley <johnbkirtley@...>
          wrote:

          > Dear Tim,
          >
          > I have been looking for the very rare (by the looks
          > of things) small iron on transfers. I bought one on
          > holiday in 75/6. They were about three inches in
          > diameter and were great head paintings of the TV
          > characters. I had Galen ironed onto my jeans and
          > remember being in love with the artwork.
          > Never heard of them or seen them since. Has anyone
          > else?
          >
          > JBK
          >   ----- Original Message -----
          >   From: Tim "apefan"<mailto:apefan23@...>
          >   To:
          >
          PotaDG@yahoogroups.com<mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
          >
          >   Sent: 18 April 2006 16:48
          >   Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Collectibles
          >
          >
          >   Yes they were listed quite a while ago....havent
          > seen
          >   them since.....
          >
          >   --- Michael Whitty
          >
          <whitty@...<mailto:whitty@...>>
          > wrote:
          >
          >   > Oh I mean quite a while ago they were listed on
          >   > ebay?
          >   > 
          >   > -----Original Message-----
          >   > From:
          >
          PotaDG@yahoogroups.com<mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
          >   > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
          >   > Of Tim "apefan"
          >   > Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 8:32 AM
          >   > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          >   > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles
          >   > 
          >   > They were put out when everything else
          > was....'74
          >   > most
          >   > likely...
          >   >
          >   > Tim
          >   >
          >   > --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...>
          > wrote:
          >   >
          >   > > Tim, are these quite old?
          >   > > 
          >   > > Michael
          >   > > 
          >   > > -----Original Message-----
          >   > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          >   > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
          >   > > Of Tim "apefan"
          >   > > Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 2:11 AM
          >   > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          >   > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota_tv] Power
          > Records
          >   > > 
          >   > > Here's a few things I was surprised to find on
          >   > > ebay...I did not get them as they are so rare
          > I
          >   > > couldn't stay in the bidding.......!
          >   > >
          >   > > Slip on Ape feet.....inflatable floating vest
          >   > ...and
          >   > > a
          >   > > radio! I thought I had a pic of the POTA
          > BATHMAT!
          >   > > but
          >   > > I can't find it....apparently rare because
          > they
          >   > were
          >   > > used and got all mildewy I guess....
          >   > >
          >   > > TIm
          >   > >
          >   > >
          >   > >
          >   > > --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...>
          > wrote:
          >   > >
          >   > > > There sure could be.
          >   > > > 
          >   > > > Every year something comes up no other fan
          > ever
          >   > > knew
          >   > > > about.
          >   > > > 
          >   > > > Michael
          >   > > > 
          >   > > > -----Original Message-----
          >   > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          >   > > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
          >   > > > Of Neil
          >   > > > Sent: Monday, 17 April 2006 8:40 AM
          >   > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          >   > > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: [pota_tv] Power
          > Records
          >   > > > 
          >   > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael
          > Whitty"
          >   > > > <whitty@...> wrote:
          >   > > > > These finds really excite me!
          >   > > > > I always thought there was a counter
          > display
          >   > for
          >   > > > the Power Records
          >   > > > (the movies) - I have a recollection of
          > these.
          >   > > But
          >   > > > I really don't
          >   > > > trust this ancient memory!
          >   > > > > It's great to see things like this.
          >   > > >
          >   > > > -- Makes you wonder what else is out there
          > that
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          Dear Michael Whitty,
           
          I just wanted to see pictures of them again really. But thanks anyway. By the way how many issues of "Apefan" were there and can you get them anywhere?
           
          JBK
          ----- Original Message -----
          Sent: 18 April 2006 23:00
          Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Collectibles

          Not sure how you got them on your jeans but yes I know the ones – beautiful colours and there’s Galen, Urko and Zaius.

           

          How bad do you want them? – I think I could get a set for you....

           

          Michael

           

          -----Original Message-----
          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Brandon Kirtley
          Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2006 3:56 AM
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles

           

          Dear Tim,

           

          I have been looking for the very rare (by the looks of things) small iron on transfers. I bought one on holiday in 75/6. They were about three inches in diameter and were great head paintings of the TV characters. I had Galen ironed onto my jeans and remember being in love with the artwork.

          Never heard of them or seen them since. Has anyone else?

           

          JBK

          ----- Original Message -----

          From: Tim "apefan"

          Sent: 18 April 2006 16:48

          Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Collectibles

           

          Yes they were listed quite a while ago....havent seen
          them since.....

          --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:

          > Oh I mean quite a while ago they were listed on
          > ebay?
          > 
          > -----Original Message-----
          > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
          > Of Tim "apefan"
          > Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 8:32 AM
          > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles
          > 
          > They were put out when everything else was....'74
          > most
          > likely...
          >
          > Tim
          >
          > --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:
          >
          > > Tim, are these quite old?
          > > 
          > > Michael
          > > 
          > > -----Original Message-----
          > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
          > > Of Tim "apefan"
          > > Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 2:11 AM
          > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota_tv] Power Records
          > > 
          > > Here's a few things I was surprised to find on
          > > ebay...I did not get them as they are so rare I
          > > couldn't stay in the bidding.......!
          > >
          > > Slip on Ape feet.....inflatable floating vest
          > ...and
          > > a
          > > radio! I thought I had a pic of the POTA BATHMAT!
          > > but
          > > I can't find it....apparently rare because they
          > were
          > > used and got all mildewy I guess....
          > >
          > > TIm
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > > --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:
          > >
          > > > There sure could be.
          > > > 
          > > > Every year something comes up no other fan ever
          > > knew
          > > > about.
          > > > 
          > > > Michael
          > > > 
          > > > -----Original Message-----
          > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          > > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
          > > > Of Neil
          > > > Sent: Monday, 17 April 2006 8:40 AM
          > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          > > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: [pota_tv] Power Records
          > > > 
          > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty"
          > > > <whitty@...> wrote:
          > > > > These finds really excite me!
          > > > > I always thought there was a counter display
          > for
          > > > the Power Records
          > > > (the movies) - I have a recollection of these.
          > > But
          > > > I really don't
          > > > trust this ancient memory!
          > > > > It's great to see things like this.
          > > >
          > > > -- Makes you wonder what else is out there that
          > > > hasn't surfaced,
          > > > surely there couldn't be too much more stuff
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          Group: potadg Message: 38716 From: John Brandon Kirtley Date: 4/19/2006
          Subject: Re: Collectibles
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          Dear Michael Whitty
           
          Sorry I meant " How many Issues were there of Apefan?
          JBK
          ----- Original Message -----
          Sent: 18 April 2006 23:00
          Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Collectibles

          Not sure how you got them on your jeans but yes I know the ones – beautiful colours and there’s Galen, Urko and Zaius.

           

          How bad do you want them? – I think I could get a set for you....

           

          Michael

           

          -----Original Message-----
          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Brandon Kirtley
          Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2006 3:56 AM
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles

           

          Dear Tim,

           

          I have been looking for the very rare (by the looks of things) small iron on transfers. I bought one on holiday in 75/6. They were about three inches in diameter and were great head paintings of the TV characters. I had Galen ironed onto my jeans and remember being in love with the artwork.

          Never heard of them or seen them since. Has anyone else?

           

          JBK

          ----- Original Message -----

          From: Tim "apefan"

          Sent: 18 April 2006 16:48

          Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Collectibles

           

          Yes they were listed quite a while ago....havent seen
          them since.....

          --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:

          > Oh I mean quite a while ago they were listed on
          > ebay?
          > 
          > -----Original Message-----
          > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
          > Of Tim "apefan"
          > Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 8:32 AM
          > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles
          > 
          > They were put out when everything else was....'74
          > most
          > likely...
          >
          > Tim
          >
          > --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:
          >
          > > Tim, are these quite old?
          > > 
          > > Michael
          > > 
          > > -----Original Message-----
          > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
          > > Of Tim "apefan"
          > > Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 2:11 AM
          > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota_tv] Power Records
          > > 
          > > Here's a few things I was surprised to find on
          > > ebay...I did not get them as they are so rare I
          > > couldn't stay in the bidding.......!
          > >
          > > Slip on Ape feet.....inflatable floating vest
          > ...and
          > > a
          > > radio! I thought I had a pic of the POTA BATHMAT!
          > > but
          > > I can't find it....apparently rare because they
          > were
          > > used and got all mildewy I guess....
          > >
          > > TIm
          > >
          > >
          > >
          > > --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:
          > >
          > > > There sure could be.
          > > > 
          > > > Every year something comes up no other fan ever
          > > knew
          > > > about.
          > > > 
          > > > Michael
          > > > 
          > > > -----Original Message-----
          > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          > > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
          > > > Of Neil
          > > > Sent: Monday, 17 April 2006 8:40 AM
          > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          > > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: [pota_tv] Power Records
          > > > 
          > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty"
          > > > <whitty@...> wrote:
          > > > > These finds really excite me!
          > > > > I always thought there was a counter display
          > for
          > > > the Power Records
          > > > (the movies) - I have a recollection of these.
          > > But
          > > > I really don't
          > > > trust this ancient memory!
          > > > > It's great to see things like this.
          > > >
          > > > -- Makes you wonder what else is out there that
          > > > hasn't surfaced,
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          Group: potadg Message: 38717 From: Dario Sciola Date: 4/19/2006
          Subject: Re: Apesfan
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          I'll bump Michael over and answer this myself.

          Alas, there were only 2 issues of Apesfan, but both were very good.
          The second one was a "Roddy" tribute as he had just passed away.
          I was lucky enough to have tracked down one of the original writers,
          George Reis through an old obscure link that one of his friends had on
          a site. By chance, George also had a few copies left and sold me
          copies of both.

          Here is a scan of the 2nd issue (this is a Roddy tribute site):
          http://xmoppet.org/scans/apesfan.htmlbr>
          Dario

          ----- Original Message -----
          From: John Brandon Kirtley <johnbkirtley@...>
          Date: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 2:05 pm
          Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles

          > Dear Michael Whitty
          >
          > Sorry I meant " How many Issues were there of Apefan?
          > JBK
          > ----- Original Message -----
          > From: Michael Whitty<mailto:whitty@...>
          > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com<mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
          > Sent: 18 April 2006 23:00
          > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Collectibles
          >
          >
          > Not sure how you got them on your jeans but yes I know the ones -
          > beautiful colours and there's Galen, Urko and Zaius.
          >
          >
          >
          > How bad do you want them? - I think I could get a set for you....
          >
          >
          >
          > Michael
          >
          >
          >
          > -----Original Message-----
          > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com<mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
          > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Brandon Kirtley
          > Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2006 3:56 AM
          > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles
          >
          >
          >
          > Dear Tim,
          >
          >
          >
          > I have been looking for the very rare (by the looks of things)
          > small iron on transfers. I bought one on holiday in 75/6. They
          > were about three inches in diameter and were great head paintings
          > of the TV characters. I had Galen ironed onto my jeans and
          > remember being in love with the artwork.
          >
          > Never heard of them or seen them since. Has anyone else?
          >
          >
          >
          > JBK
          >
          > ----- Original Message -----
          >
          > From: Tim "apefan"<mailto:apefan23@...>
          >
          > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com<mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
          >
          > Sent: 18 April 2006 16:48
          >
          > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Collectibles
          >
          >
          >
          > Yes they were listed quite a while ago....havent seen
          > them since.....
          >
          > --- Michael Whitty
          > <whitty@...<mailto:whitty@...>> wrote:
          >
          > > Oh I mean quite a while ago they were listed on
          > > ebay?
          > >
          > > -----Original Message-----
          > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com<mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
          > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
          > > Of Tim "apefan"
          > > Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 8:32 AM
          > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles
          > >
          > > They were put out when everything else was....'74
          > > most
          > > likely...
          > >
          > > Tim
          > >
          > > --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:
          > >
          > > > Tim, are these quite old?
          > > >
          > > > Michael
          > > >
          > > > -----Original Message-----
          > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          > > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
          > > > Of Tim "apefan"
          > > > Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 2:11 AM
          > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          > > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota_tv] Power Records
          > > >
          > > > Here's a few things I was surprised to find on
          > > > ebay...I did not get them as they are so rare I
          > > > couldn't stay in the bidding.......!
          > > >
          > > > Slip on Ape feet.....inflatable floating vest
          > > ...and
          > > > a
          > > > radio! I thought I had a pic of the POTA BATHMAT!
          > > > but
          > > > I can't find it....apparently rare because they
          > > were
          > > > used and got all mildewy I guess....
          > > >
          > > > TIm
          > > >
          > > >
          > > >
          > > > --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:
          > > >
          > > > > There sure could be.
          > > > >
          > > > > Every year something comes up no other fan ever
          > > > knew
          > > > > about.
          > > > >
          > > > > Michael
          > > > >
          > > > > -----Original Message-----
          > > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          > > > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
          > > > > Of Neil
          > > > > Sent: Monday, 17 April 2006 8:40 AM
          > > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          > > > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: [pota_tv] Power Records
          > > > >
          > > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty"
          > > > > <whitty@...> wrote:
          > > > > > These finds really excite me!
          > > > > > I always thought there was a counter display
          > > for
          > > > > the Power Records
          > > > > (the movies) - I have a recollection of these.
          > > > But
          > > > > I really don't
          > > > > trust this ancient memory!
          > > > > > It's great to see things like this.
          > > > >
          > > > > -- Makes you wonder what else is out there that
          > > > > hasn't surfaced,
          > > > > surely there couldn't be too much more stuff
          > > could
          > > > > there?
          > > > >
          > > >
          > > > --
          > > >
          > >
          > >
          > > > >
          >
          >
          >
          Group: potadg Message: 38718 From: Neil Date: 4/19/2006
          Subject: Re: MEGO PLANET OF THE APES TREEHOUSE - GIFT SET VARIANT
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          --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
          > Neat how it comes with a full set of dollies eh?

          -- Pity it comes with such a neat price as well!

          neil
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          Group: potadg Message: 38719 From: Neil Date: 4/19/2006
          Subject: Re: Issue 79 on Hunter's site
          .html
          --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "John" <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:
          > Well, since Greg is on vacation I thought I'd let any of the other
          > comic fiends needing their fix know that Issue 79 is availible on
          > Hunter's site. It has a pretty cool B/W photo of the TV Zaius like the
          > one recently posted, and some cool behind the scenes photos from
          > Conquest.

          -- Thanks for the reminder John.

          Neil
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          Group: potadg Message: 38720 From: Neil Date: 4/19/2006
          Subject: Re:
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          --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@... wrote:
          > It wasn't that funny.
          <.html
          Group: potadg Message: 38721 From: Neil Date: 4/19/2006
          Subject: {Disarmed} Re: [PotaDG]
          .html
          --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
          > Yeah, but you don't like comics so you are biased. ;)

          -- Lucky I didn't waste all that time doing the colour version then
          isn't it.

          Neil
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          Group: potadg Message: 38722 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/19/2006
          Subject: Re:
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            Excellent!! Ape funnies!

            --- Neil T Foster <nfoster@...> wrote:

            >
            >
            > Neil
            >
            >


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            Group: potadg Message: 38723 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/19/2006
            Subject: Re: Collectibles
            .html
            I just see them so often on ebay i figured somebody
            re-issued them....Retro tshirts are very popular....

            --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:

            > Tim
            >
            > I believe these ARE the originals.
            >
            > Michael
            >
            > -----Original Message-----
            > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
            > Of Tim "apefan"
            > Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2006 9:32 AM
            > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles
            >
            > Hey JBK.....
            >
            > The iron on transfers are a bit bigger than 3
            > inches...or at least the ones I have......the Zaius
            > one I have printed on a shirt from when I was a kid
            > is about 8 x10....I also have all three (Zaius,
            > Galen
            > and Urko) that are "un-ironed on".....they are about
            > 9
            > x 11 ....I bought these a few years ago and I was
            > thinking that they were original and just never used
            > but now that I have seen them popping up alot I'm
            > thinking that they are re-issued "pop culture"
            > transfers......Still pretty cool though! Do you
            > happen
            > to have a pic of the smaller versions? Here are pics
            > of mine...
            >
            > Tim
            >
            > --- John Brandon Kirtley <johnbkirtley@...>
            > wrote:
            >
            > > Dear Tim,
            > >
            > > I have been looking for the very rare (by the
            > looks
            > > of things) small iron on transfers. I bought one
            > on
            > > holiday in 75/6. They were about three inches in
            > > diameter and were great head paintings of the TV
            > > characters. I had Galen ironed onto my jeans and
            > > remember being in love with the artwork.
            > > Never heard of them or seen them since. Has anyone
            > > else?
            > >
            > > JBK
            > > ----- Original Message -----
            > > From: Tim "apefan"<mailto:apefan23@...>
            > > To:
            > >
            >
            PotaDG@yahoogroups.com<mailto: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
            > >
            > > Sent: 18 April 2006 16:48
            > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Collectibles
            > >
            > >
            > > Yes they were listed quite a while ago....havent
            > > seen
            > > them since.....
            > >
            > > --- Michael Whitty
            > >
            >
            <whitty@...<mailto:whitty@...>>
            > > wrote:
            > >
            > > > Oh I mean quite a while ago they were listed
            > on
            > > > ebay?
            > > >
            > > > -----Original Message-----
            > > > From:
            > >
            >
            PotaDG@yahoogroups.com<mailto: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
            > > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
            > > > Of Tim "apefan"
            > > > Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 8:32 AM
            > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            > > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles
            > > >
            > > > They were put out when everything else
            > > was....'74
            > > > most
            > > > likely...
            > > >
            > > > Tim
            > > >
            > > > --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...>
            > > wrote:
            > > >
            > > > > Tim, are these quite old?
            > > > >
            > > > > Michael
            > > > >
            > > > > -----Original Message-----
            > > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            > > > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
            > > > > Of Tim "apefan"
            > > > > Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 2:11 AM
            > > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            > > > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota_tv] Power
            > > Records
            > > > >
            > > > > Here's a few things I was surprised to find
            > on
            > > > > ebay...I did not get them as they are so
            > rare
            > > I
            > > > > couldn't stay in the bidding.......!
            > > > >
            > > > > Slip on Ape feet.....inflatable floating
            > vest
            > > > ...and
            > > > > a
            > > > > radio! I thought I had a pic of the POTA
            > > BATHMAT!
            > > > > but
            > > > > I can't find it....apparently rare because
            > > they
            > > > were
            > > > > used and got all mildewy I guess....
            > > > >
            > > > > TIm
            > > > >
            > > > >
            > > > >
            > > > > --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...>
            > > wrote:
            > > > >
            > > > > > There sure could be.
            > > > > >
            > > > > > Every year something comes up no other fan
            > > ever
            > > > > knew
            > > > > > about.
            > > > > >
            > > > > > Michael
            > > > > >
            > > > > > -----Original Message-----
            > > > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            > > > > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
            > > > > > Of Neil
            > > > > > Sent: Monday, 17 April 2006 8:40 AM
            > > > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            > > > > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: [pota_tv] Power
            > > Records
            > > > > >
            > > > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael
            > > Whitty"
            > > > > > <whitty@...> wrote:
            > > > > > > These finds really excite me!
            > > > > > > I always thought there was a counter
            > > display
            > > > for
            > > > > > the Power Records
            > > > > > (the movies) - I have a recollection of
            > > these.
            > > > > But
            > > > > > I really don't
            > > > > > trust this ancient memory!
            > > > > > > It's great to see things like this.
            > > > > >
            > > > > > -- Makes you wonder what else is out there
            > > that
            > > > > > hasn't surfaced,
            > > > > > surely there couldn't be too much more
            > stuff
            > > > could
            > > > > > there?
            > > > > >
            > > > >
            > > > > --
            > > > >
            > > >
            >
            === message truncated ===


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            Group: potadg Message: 38724 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/19/2006
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              Neil...did you hand latter that?? or is it a font in
              your computer...?

              --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:

              > Very fucking good man!
              >
              >
              > Rory's going to hate it! :-)
              >
              > What's a good time to ring you tonight?
              >
              > -----Original Message-----
              > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
              > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
              > Of Neil T Foster
              > Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2006 7:27 PM
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              Group: potadg Message: 38725 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/19/2006
              Subject: Re: MEGO PLANET OF THE APES TREEHOUSE - GIFT SET VARIANT
              .html
              Man...you got some great stuff as a kid..! Still got
              all those?

              --- John <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:

              > This is the set that started it all for me. There is
              > a pic of me
              > getting this for Christmas when I was 2 yrs old in
              > the member photos.
              > Started my obsession that's lasted a lifetime.
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty"
              > <whitty@...> wrote:
              > >
              > > This is the one I mentioned (to Jeff maybe?) a
              > while back.
              > >
              > > Neat how it comes with a full set of dollies eh?
              > >
              > > Michael
              > >
              > > -----Original Message-----
              > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
              > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
              > Behalf
              > > Of Tim "apefan"
              > > Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2006 9:44 AM
              > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
              > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Collectibles
              > >
              > > Anyone betting on this?? Still have four days
              > > left......!
              > >
              > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem
              > > <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
              > ViewItem&item=6051355402&rd=1&sspa
              > > gename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1>
              > >
              >
              &item=6051355402&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
              > >
              > > Tim
              > >
              > > --
              > >
              >
              >
              >
              >
              >


              <.html
              Group: potadg Message: 38726 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/19/2006
              Subject: Re: Issue 79 on Hunter's site
              .html
              Hey look...it's Zelda!!

              --- John <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:

              > Well, since Greg is on vacation I thought I'd let
              > any of the other
              > comic fiends needing their fix know that Issue 79 is
              > availible on
              > Hunter's site. It has a pretty cool B/W photo of the
              > TV Zaius like the
              > one recently posted, and some cool behind the scenes
              > photos from
              > Conquest.
              >
              >
              >
              >


              <.html
              Group: potadg Message: 38727 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/19/2006
              Subject: Re: Collectibles
              .html
              I would love to see these! anyone remember these? are
              they US or UK products?

              Tim

              --- John Brandon Kirtley <johnbkirtley@...>
              wrote:

              > Dear Tim,
              >
              > These look great but not the ones I mean. They were
              > small head paintings that weren't for tea-shirts. I
              > think they were for jeans or jackets or whatever. I
              > haven't ever seen them in any pota sale or
              > collectable list. Maybe they weren't official
              > pota stuff. They were very well done though. I
              > unfortunatly
              > don't have a copy or any information on them
              > whatsoever.
              >
              > Maybe we can put out a call on the message boards?
              >
              > JBK
              > ----- Original Message -----
              > From: Tim "apefan"<mailto:apefan23@...>
              > To:
              >
              PotaDG@yahoogroups.com<mailto: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
              >
              > Sent: 19 April 2006 00:31
              > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles
              >
              >
              > Hey JBK.....
              >
              > The iron on transfers are a bit bigger than 3
              > inches...or at least the ones I have......the
              > Zaius
              > one I have printed on a shirt from when I was a
              > kid
              > is about 8 x10....I also have all three (Zaius,
              > Galen
              > and Urko) that are "un-ironed on".....they are
              > about 9
              > x 11 ....I bought these a few years ago and I was
              > thinking that they were original and just never
              > used
              > but now that I have seen them popping up alot I'm
              > thinking that they are re-issued "pop culture"
              > transfers......Still pretty cool though! Do you
              > happen
              > to have a pic of the smaller versions? Here are
              > pics
              > of mine...
              >
              > Tim
              >
              > --- John Brandon Kirtley
              > <johnbkirtley@...>
              > wrote:
              >
              > > Dear Tim,
              > >
              > > I have been looking for the very rare (by the
              > looks
              > > of things) small iron on transfers. I bought one
              > on
              > > holiday in 75/6. They were about three inches in
              > > diameter and were great head paintings of the TV
              > > characters. I had Galen ironed onto my jeans and
              > > remember being in love with the artwork.
              > > Never heard of them or seen them since. Has
              > anyone
              > > else?
              > >
              > > JBK
              > > ----- Original Message -----
              > > From: Tim "apefan"<mailto:apefan23@...>
              > > To:
              > >
              >
              >
              PotaDG@yahoogroups.com<mailto: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
              > >
              > > Sent: 18 April 2006 16:48
              > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Collectibles
              > >
              > >
              > > Yes they were listed quite a while
              > ago....havent
              > > seen
              > > them since.....
              > >
              > > --- Michael Whitty
              > >
              >
              >
              <whitty@...<mailto:whitty@...>>
              > > wrote:
              > >
              > > > Oh I mean quite a while ago they were listed
              > on
              > > > ebay?
              > > >
              > > > -----Original Message-----
              > > > From:
              > >
              >
              >
              PotaDG@yahoogroups.com<mailto: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
              > > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
              > > > Of Tim "apefan"
              > > > Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 8:32 AM
              > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
              > > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles
              > > >
              > > > They were put out when everything else
              > > was....'74
              > > > most
              > > > likely...
              > > >
              > > > Tim
              > > >
              > > > --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...>
              > > wrote:
              > > >
              > > > > Tim, are these quite old?
              > > > >
              > > > > Michael
              > > > >
              > > > > -----Original Message-----
              > > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
              > > > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
              > > > > Of Tim "apefan"
              > > > > Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 2:11 AM
              > > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
              > > > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota_tv] Power
              > > Records
              > > > >
              > > > > Here's a few things I was surprised to
              > find on
              > > > > ebay...I did not get them as they are so
              > rare
              > > I
              > > > > couldn't stay in the bidding.......!
              > > > >
              > > > > Slip on Ape feet.....inflatable floating
              > vest
              > > > ...and
              > > > > a
              > > > > radio! I thought I had a pic of the POTA
              > > BATHMAT!
              > > > > but
              > > > > I can't find it....apparently rare because
              > > they
              > > > were
              > > > > used and got all mildewy I guess....
              > > > >
              > > > > TIm
              > > > >
              > > > >
              > > > >
              > > > > --- Michael Whitty
              > <whitty@...>
              > > wrote:
              > > > >
              > > > > > There sure could be.
              > > > > >
              > > > > > Every year something comes up no other
              > fan
              > > ever
              > > > > knew
              > > > > > about.
              > > > > >
              > > > > > Michael
              > > > > >
              > > > > > -----Original Message-----
              > > > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
              > > > > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
              > Behalf
              > > > > > Of Neil
              > > > > > Sent: Monday, 17 April 2006 8:40 AM
              > > > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
              > > > > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: [pota_tv] Power
              > > Records
              > > > > >
              > > > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael
              > > Whitty"
              > > > > > <whitty@...> wrote:
              > > > > > > These finds really excite me!
              > > > > > > I always thought there was a counter
              > > display
              > > > for
              > > > > > the Power Records
              > > > > > (the movies) - I have a recollection of
              > > these.
              > > > > But
              > > > > > I really don't
              > > > > > trust this ancient memory!
              > > > > > > It's great to see things like this.
              > > > > >
              > > > > > -- Makes you wonder what else is out
              > there
              > > that
              > > > > > hasn't surfaced,
              > > > > > surely there couldn't be too much more
              > stuff
              > > > could
              > > > > > there?
              > > > > >
              > > > >
              > > > > --
              <.html
              Group: potadg Message: 38728 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/19/2006
              Subject: Re: Apesfan
              .html
              I never knew about this site! Some nice pics in
              there....

              What's funny is the magazine spread from an old
              Hollywood mag with pics of Roddy bring Tab Hunter home
              to meet his parents and hang out...the title of the
              article is "Calling All Girls!" ...I'm sure Roddy and
              Tab would have preferred each other's company!


              --- Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:

              > I'll bump Michael over and answer this myself.
              >
              > Alas, there were only 2 issues of Apesfan, but both
              > were very good.
              > The second one was a "Roddy" tribute as he had just
              > passed away.
              > I was lucky enough to have tracked down one of the
              > original writers,
              > George Reis through an old obscure link that one of
              > his friends had on
              > a site. By chance, George also had a few copies left
              > and sold me
              > copies of both.
              >
              > Here is a scan of the 2nd issue (this is a Roddy
              > tribute site):
              > http://xmoppet.org/scans/apesfan.html"
              >
              > Dario
              >
              > ----- Original Message -----
              > From: John Brandon Kirtley
              > <johnbkirtley@...>
              > Date: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 2:05 pm
              > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles
              >
              > > Dear Michael Whitty
              > >
              > > Sorry I meant " How many Issues were there of
              > Apefan?
              > > JBK
              > > ----- Original Message -----
              > > From: Michael
              > Whitty<mailto:whitty@...>
              > > To:
              >
              PotaDG@yahoogroups.com<mailto: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
              >
              > > Sent: 18 April 2006 23:00
              > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Collectibles
              > >
              > >
              > > Not sure how you got them on your jeans but yes I
              > know the ones -
              > > beautiful colours and there's Galen, Urko and
              > Zaius.
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > How bad do you want them? - I think I could get a
              > set for you....
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > Michael
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > -----Original Message-----
              > > From:
              >
              PotaDG@yahoogroups.com<mailto: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
              >
              > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John
              > Brandon Kirtley
              > > Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2006 3:56 AM
              > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
              > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > Dear Tim,
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > I have been looking for the very rare (by the
              > looks of things)
              > > small iron on transfers. I bought one on holiday
              > in 75/6. They
              > > were about three inches in diameter and were great
              > head paintings
              > > of the TV characters. I had Galen ironed onto my
              > jeans and
              > > remember being in love with the artwork.
              > >
              > > Never heard of them or seen them since. Has
              > anyone else?
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > JBK
              > >
              > > ----- Original Message -----
              > >
              > > From: Tim "apefan"<mailto:apefan23@...>
              > >
              > > To:
              >
              PotaDG@yahoogroups.com<mailto: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
              >
              > >
              > > Sent: 18 April 2006 16:48
              > >
              > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Collectibles
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > Yes they were listed quite a while
              > ago....havent seen
              > > them since.....
              > >
              > > --- Michael Whitty
              > >
              >
              <whitty@...<mailto:whitty@...>>
              > wrote:
              > >
              > > > Oh I mean quite a while ago they were listed
              > on
              > > > ebay?
              > > >
              > > > -----Original Message-----
              > > > From:
              >
              PotaDG@yahoogroups.com<mailto: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
              > > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
              > > > Of Tim "apefan"
              > > > Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 8:32 AM
              > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
              > > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles
              > > >
              > > > They were put out when everything else
              > was....'74
              > > > most
              > > > likely...
              > > >
              > > > Tim
              > > >
              > > > --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...>
              > wrote:
              > > >
              > > > > Tim, are these quite old?
              > > > >
              > > > > Michael
              > > > >
              > > > > -----Original Message-----
              > > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
              > > > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
              > > > > Of Tim "apefan"
              > > > > Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 2:11 AM
              > > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
              > > > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota_tv] Power
              > Records
              > > > >
              > > > > Here's a few things I was surprised to find
              > on
              > > > > ebay...I did not get them as they are so
              > rare I
              > > > > couldn't stay in the bidding.......!
              > > > >
              > > > > Slip on Ape feet.....inflatable floating
              > vest
              > > > ...and
              > > > > a
              > > > > radio! I thought I had a pic of the POTA
              > BATHMAT!
              > > > > but
              > > > > I can't find it....apparently rare because
              > they
              > > > were
              > > > > used and got all mildewy I guess....
              > > > >
              > > > > TIm
              > > > >
              > > > >
              > > > >
              > > > > --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...>
              > wrote:
              > > > >
              > > > > > There sure could be.
              > > > > >
              > > > > > Every year something comes up no other
              > fan ever
              > > > > knew
              > > > > > about.
              > > > > >
              > > > > > Michael
              > > > > >
              > > > > > -----Original Message-----
              > > > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
              > > > > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
              > > > > > Of Neil
              > > > > > Sent: Monday, 17 April 2006 8:40 AM
              > > > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
              > > > > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: [pota_tv] Power
              > Records
              > > > > >
              > > > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael
              > Whitty"
              > > > > > <whitty@...> wrote:
              > > > > > > These finds really excite me!
              > > > > > > I always thought there was a counter
              > display
              > > > for
              > > > > > the Power Records
              > > > > > (the movies) - I have a recollection of
              > these.
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              Group: potadg Message: 38729 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/19/2006
              Subject: Re: Apesfan
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                Ok ...this has got to be the freakiest POTA pic I've
                ever seen!



                --- "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:

                > I never knew about this site! Some nice pics in
                > there....
                >
                > What's funny is the magazine spread from an old
                > Hollywood mag with pics of Roddy bring Tab Hunter
                > home
                > to meet his parents and hang out...the title of the
                > article is "Calling All Girls!" ...I'm sure Roddy
                > and
                > Tab would have preferred each other's company!
                >
                >
                > --- Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
                >
                > > I'll bump Michael over and answer this myself.
                > >
                > > Alas, there were only 2 issues of Apesfan, but
                > both
                > > were very good.
                > > The second one was a "Roddy" tribute as he had
                > just
                > > passed away.
                > > I was lucky enough to have tracked down one of the
                > > original writers,
                > > George Reis through an old obscure link that one
                > of
                > > his friends had on
                > > a site. By chance, George also had a few copies
                > left
                > > and sold me
                > > copies of both.
                > >
                > > Here is a scan of the 2nd issue (this is a Roddy
                > > tribute site):
                > > http://xmoppet.org/scans/apesfan.html"
                > >
                > > Dario
                > >
                > > ----- Original Message -----
                > > From: John Brandon Kirtley
                > > <johnbkirtley@...>
                > > Date: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 2:05 pm
                > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles
                > >
                > > > Dear Michael Whitty
                > > >
                > > > Sorry I meant " How many Issues were there of
                > > Apefan?
                > > > JBK
                > > > ----- Original Message -----
                > > > From: Michael
                > > Whitty<mailto:whitty@...>
                > > > To:
                > >
                >
                PotaDG@yahoogroups.com<mailto: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
                > >
                > > > Sent: 18 April 2006 23:00
                > > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Collectibles
                > > >
                > > >
                > > > Not sure how you got them on your jeans but yes
                > I
                > > know the ones -
                > > > beautiful colours and there's Galen, Urko and
                > > Zaius.
                > > >
                > > >
                > > >
                > > > How bad do you want them? - I think I could get
                > a
                > > set for you....
                > > >
                > > >
                > > >
                > > > Michael
                > > >
                > > >
                > > >
                > > > -----Original Message-----
                > > > From:
                > >
                >
                PotaDG@yahoogroups.com<mailto: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
                > >
                > > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
                > John
                > > Brandon Kirtley
                > > > Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2006 3:56 AM
                > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                > > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles
                > > >
                > > >
                > > >
                > > > Dear Tim,
                > > >
                > > >
                > > >
                > > > I have been looking for the very rare (by the
                > > looks of things)
                > > > small iron on transfers. I bought one on holiday
                > > in 75/6. They
                > > > were about three inches in diameter and were
                > great
                > > head paintings
                > > > of the TV characters. I had Galen ironed onto my
                > > jeans and
                > > > remember being in love with the artwork.
                > > >
                > > > Never heard of them or seen them since. Has
                > > anyone else?
                > > >
                > > >
                > > >
                > > > JBK
                > > >
                > > > ----- Original Message -----
                > > >
                > > > From: Tim "apefan"<mailto:apefan23@...>
                >
                > > >
                > > > To:
                > >
                >
                PotaDG@yahoogroups.com<mailto: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
                > >
                > > >
                > > > Sent: 18 April 2006 16:48
                > > >
                > > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Collectibles
                > > >
                > > >
                > > >
                > > > Yes they were listed quite a while
                > > ago....havent seen
                > > > them since.....
                > > >
                > > > --- Michael Whitty
                > > >
                > >
                >
                <whitty@...<mailto:whitty@...>>
                > > wrote:
                > > >
                > > > > Oh I mean quite a while ago they were
                > listed
                > > on
                > > > > ebay?
                > > > >
                > > > > -----Original Message-----
                > > > > From:
                > >
                >
                PotaDG@yahoogroups.com<mailto: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
                > > > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
                > > > > Of Tim "apefan"
                > > > > Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 8:32 AM
                > > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                > > > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles
                > > > >
                > > > > They were put out when everything else
                > > was....'74
                > > > > most
                > > > > likely...
                > > > >
                > > > > Tim
                > > > >
                > > > > --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...>
                > > wrote:
                > > > >
                > > > > > Tim, are these quite old?
                > > > > >
                > > > > > Michael
                > > > > >
                > > > > > -----Original Message-----
                > > > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                > > > > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
                > > > > > Of Tim "apefan"
                > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 2:11 AM
                > > > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                > > > > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota_tv] Power
                > > Records
                > > > > >
                > > > > > Here's a few things I was surprised to
                > find
                > > on
                > > > > > ebay...I did not get them as they are so
                > > rare I
                > > > > > couldn't stay in the bidding.......!
                > > > > >
                > > > > > Slip on Ape feet.....inflatable floating
                > > vest
                > > > > ...and
                > > > > > a
                > > > > > radio! I thought I had a pic of the POTA
                > > BATHMAT!
                > > > > > but
                > > > > > I can't find it....apparently rare
                > because
                > > they
                > > > > were
                > > > > > used and got all mildewy I guess....
                > > > > >
                > > > > > TIm
                > > > > >
                > > > > >
                >
                === message truncated ===

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                Group: potadg Message: 38730 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/19/2006
                Subject: 70's TV
                .html
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                  Roddy on TV.......

                  --- "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:

                  > I never knew about this site! Some nice pics in
                  > there....


                  <.html
                  Group: potadg Message: 38731 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/19/2006
                  Subject: Re: Legacy Review
                  .html
                  .html.html In a message dated 4/19/06 7:52:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:


                  I think this is the bit you like:



                  "Completists might be annoyed that neither package contains the theatrical release of Battle , leaving the truly anal-retentive holding on to one disc from the old set, but the fanbase of that film is virtually non-existent — though it is arguably more entertaining that the Burton version."





                  Yes, I'm definitely the anal-retentive one here: I'd like to keep PLANET up my ass so Patrick can't get his hands on it -- but I know that wouldn't work!

                  Anyway, "the fanbase of that film is virtually non-existent" line still cracks me up, but of course we know that's not true, especially in the other group.

                  -- Rory                  <.html                   <.html
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                  Group: potadg Message: 38732 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/19/2006
                  Subject: Re: {Disarmed} Re: [PotaDG]
                  .html
                  .html.html In a message dated 4/19/06 10:26:17 AM Eastern Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:


                  Yeah, but you don't like comics so you are biased.  ;)



                  I like comics, short little joke things.  I don't like comicbooks in general.  I wasn't into them as a kid, so there you go.

                  -- Rory                  <.html                   <.html
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                  Group: potadg Message: 38733 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/19/2006
                  Subject: Re:
                  .html
                  .html.html In a message dated 4/19/06 5:17:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, apefan23@... writes:


                  Excellent!! Ape funnies!


                  Let's have a contest to see who can come up with the funniest three or four panel comic.

                  -- Rory                  <.html                   <.html
                  <.html
                  Group: potadg Message: 38734 From: John Date: 4/19/2006
                  Subject: Re: Apesfan
                  .html
                  I was able to find both these issues on ebay some years back. They
                  are the best fan based mags I've ever come across. Lots of great
                  photos and not the usual boring "Character data base" crap people
                  type up on their computers and try and pawn off on those of us
                  desperate for anything new from the Apes world. Its a shame they
                  couldn't make this work.




                  --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > I'll bump Michael over and answer this myself.
                  >
                  > Alas, there were only 2 issues of Apesfan, but both were very good.
                  > The second one was a "Roddy" tribute as he had just passed away.
                  > I was lucky enough to have tracked down one of the original
                  writers,
                  > George Reis through an old obscure link that one of his friends had
                  on
                  > a site. By chance, George also had a few copies left and sold me
                  > copies of both.
                  >
                  > Here is a scan of the 2nd issue (this is a Roddy tribute site):
                  > http://xmoppet.org/scans/apesfan.htmlbr> >
                  > Dario
                  >
                  > ----- Original Message -----
                  > From: John Brandon Kirtley <johnbkirtley@...>
                  > Date: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 2:05 pm
                  > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles
                  >
                  > > Dear Michael Whitty
                  > >
                  > > Sorry I meant " How many Issues were there of Apefan?
                  > > JBK
                  > > ----- Original Message -----
                  > > From: Michael Whitty<mailto:whitty@...>
                  > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com<mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
                  > > Sent: 18 April 2006 23:00
                  > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Collectibles
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > Not sure how you got them on your jeans but yes I know the ones -
                  > > beautiful colours and there's Galen, Urko and Zaius.
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > How bad do you want them? - I think I could get a set for you....
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > Michael
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > -----Original Message-----
                  > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com<mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
                  > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John Brandon Kirtley
                  > > Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2006 3:56 AM
                  > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                  > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > Dear Tim,
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > I have been looking for the very rare (by the looks of things)
                  > > small iron on transfers. I bought one on holiday in 75/6. They
                  > > were about three inches in diameter and were great head paintings
                  > > of the TV characters. I had Galen ironed onto my jeans and
                  > > remember being in love with the artwork.
                  > >
                  > > Never heard of them or seen them since. Has anyone else?
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > JBK
                  > >
                  > > ----- Original Message -----
                  > >
                  > > From: Tim "apefan"<mailto:apefan23@...>
                  > >
                  > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com<mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
                  > >
                  > > Sent: 18 April 2006 16:48
                  > >
                  > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Collectibles
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > Yes they were listed quite a while ago....havent seen
                  > > them since.....
                  > >
                  > > --- Michael Whitty
                  > > <whitty@...<mailto:whitty@...>> wrote:
                  > >
                  > > > Oh I mean quite a while ago they were listed on
                  > > > ebay?
                  > > >
                  > > > -----Original Message-----
                  > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com<mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
                  > > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
                  > > > Of Tim "apefan"
                  > > > Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 8:32 AM
                  > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                  > > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles
                  > > >
                  > > > They were put out when everything else was....'74
                  > > > most
                  > > > likely...
                  > > >
                  > > > Tim
                  > > >
                  > > > --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:
                  > > >
                  > > > > Tim, are these quite old?
                  > > > >
                  > > > > Michael
                  > > > >
                  > > > > -----Original Message-----
                  > > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                  > > > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
                  > > > > Of Tim "apefan"
                  > > > > Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 2:11 AM
                  > > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                  > > > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota_tv] Power Records
                  > > > >
                  > > > > Here's a few things I was surprised to find on
                  > > > > ebay...I did not get them as they are so rare I
                  > > > > couldn't stay in the bidding.......!
                  > > > >
                  > > > > Slip on Ape feet.....inflatable floating vest
                  > > > ...and
                  > > > > a
                  > > > > radio! I thought I had a pic of the POTA BATHMAT!
                  > > > > but
                  > > > > I can't find it....apparently rare because they
                  > > > were
                  > > > > used and got all mildewy I guess....
                  > > > >
                  > > > > TIm
                  > > > >
                  > > > >
                  > > > >
                  > > > > --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:
                  > > > >
                  > > > > > There sure could be.
                  > > > > >
                  > > > > > Every year something comes up no other fan ever
                  > > > > knew
                  > > > > > about.
                  > > > > >
                  > > > > > Michael
                  > > > > >
                  > > > > > -----Original Message-----
                  > > > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                  > > > > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
                  > > > > > Of Neil
                  > > > > > Sent: Monday, 17 April 2006 8:40 AM
                  > > > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                  > > > > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: [pota_tv] Power Records
                  > > > > >
                  > > > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty"
                  > > > > > <whitty@> wrote:
                  > > > > > > These finds really excite me!
                  > > > > > > I always thought there was a counter display
                  > > > for
                  > > > > > the Power Records
                  > > > > > (the movies) - I have a recollection of these.
                  > > > > But
                  > > > > > I really don't
                  > > > > > trust this ancient memory!
                  > > > > > > It's great to see things like this.
                  > > > > >
                  > > > > > -- Makes you wonder what else is out there that
                  > > > > > hasn't surfaced,
                  > > > > > surely there couldn't be too much more stuff
                  > > > could
                  > > > > > there?
                  > > > > >
                  > > > >
                  > > > > --
                  > > > >
                  > > >
                  > > >
                  > > > > > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > >
                  <.html
                  Group: potadg Message: 38735 From: John Date: 4/19/2006
                  Subject: Re: MEGO PLANET OF THE APES TREEHOUSE - GIFT SET VARIANT
                  .html
                  I have pits and pieces from my treehouse, My Mom found with my
                  figures a few years ago and gave me for Christmas. I believe I posted
                  pics then too. :) She also found my "throne" and some non Apes
                  toys... like my original ALIEN figure from 1979. I have re-bought all
                  the MEGOS in great condition except the original Astronaut. I have a
                  room in my house full of toys my Son can't play with. :)



                  --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > Man...you got some great stuff as a kid..! Still got
                  > all those?
                  >
                  > --- John <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > > This is the set that started it all for me. There is
                  > > a pic of me
                  > > getting this for Christmas when I was 2 yrs old in
                  > > the member photos.
                  > > Started my obsession that's lasted a lifetime.
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty"
                  > > <whitty@> wrote:
                  > > >
                  > > > This is the one I mentioned (to Jeff maybe?) a
                  > > while back.
                  > > >
                  > > > Neat how it comes with a full set of dollies eh?
                  > > >
                  > > > Michael
                  > > >
                  > > > -----Original Message-----
                  > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                  > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
                  > > Behalf
                  > > > Of Tim "apefan"
                  > > > Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2006 9:44 AM
                  > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                  > > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Collectibles
                  > > >
                  > > > Anyone betting on this?? Still have four days
                  > > > left......!
                  > > >
                  > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem
                  > > > <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
                  > > ViewItem&item=6051355402&rd=1&sspa
                  > > > gename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1>
                  > > >
                  > >
                  > &item=6051355402&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
                  > > >
                  > > > Tim
                  > > >
                  > > > --
                  > > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  <.html
                  Group: potadg Message: 38736 From: Whitty Date: 4/19/2006
                  Subject: Re:
                  .html
                  Let's!

                  Michael

                  --------- Original Message --------
                  From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                  To: "PotaDG@yahoogroups.com" <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
                  Subject: Re: [PotaDG]
                  Date: 20/04/06 18:50

                  In a message dated 4/19/06 5:17:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, apefan23@... writes:


                  Excellent!! Ape funnies!


                  Let's have a contest to see who can come up with the funniest three or four panel comic.

                  -- Rory
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                  Group: potadg Message: 38737 From: Whitty Date: 4/19/2006
                  Subject: MEGO PLANET OF THE APES TREEHOUSE - GIFT SET VARIANT
                  .html
                  Send photos!


                  --------- Original Message --------
                  From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                  To: "PotaDG@yahoogroups.com" <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
                  Subject: [PotaDG] Re: MEGO PLANET OF THE APES TREEHOUSE - GIFT SET VARIANT
                  Date: 20/04/06 18:58
                   I have a room in my house full of toys my Son can't play with. :)



                  --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim "apefan"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > Man...you got some great stuff as a kid..! Still got
                  > all those?
                  >
                  > --- John <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:
                  >
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                  Group: potadg Message: 38738 From: Whitty, Michael Date: 4/19/2006
                  Subject: Funnies [SEC=PERSONAL]
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                     I reveal my innermost self....................
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                    Group: potadg Message: 38739 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 4/19/2006
                    Subject: Re: Funnies [SEC=PERSONAL]
                    .html
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                      I couldn't see the image Michael......

                      --- "Whitty, Michael" <whitty@...> wrote:

                      >
                      >
                      >
                      > I reveal my innermost self....................
                      >
                      >
                      > <<assface.jpg>>
                      >


                      <.html
                      Group: potadg Message: 38740 From: Neil T Foster Date: 4/19/2006
                      Subject: Re:
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                      -- Tim it's a font called Anime Ace. I have no memory of where I got it from though!
                       
                      Neil
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                      From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
                      Sent: Thursday, 20 April 2006 7:18 AM
                      To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                      Subject: RE: [PotaDG]

                      Neil...did you hand latter that?? or is it a font in
                      your computer...?

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                      Group: potadg Message: 38741 From: Neil T Foster Date: 4/19/2006
                      Subject: Re: Apesfan
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                      -- That is just downright scary!!
                       
                      Neil
                      -----Original Message-----
                      From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
                      Sent: Thursday, 20 April 2006 8:05 AM
                      To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                      Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Apesfan

                      Ok ...this has got to be the freakiest POTA pic I've
                      ever seen!


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                      Group: potadg Message: 38742 From: Neil T Foster Date: 4/19/2006
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                      :-)
                       
                      Neil
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                      From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Whitty, Michael
                      Sent: Thursday, 20 April 2006 9:23 AM
                      To: 'PotaDG@yahoogroups.com'
                      Subject: [PotaDG] Funnies [SEC=PERSONAL]

                       
                       
                       I reveal my innermost self....................

                       

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                      Group: potadg Message: 38743 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 4/19/2006
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                      .html.html The day I'd pay $800.00 would be a COLD day in hell... I'd rather spend that kinda APES ching on posters or something that's cool...





                      In a message dated 4/18/2006 6:39:34 PM Central Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:

                      damn.........

                      --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:

                      >I saw the "feet" in original package.  I think they
                      >went for around $800
                      >


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                      Group: potadg Message: 38744 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 4/19/2006
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                      .html.html In a message dated 4/19/2006 5:55:07 PM Central Standard Time, DrZaiusDavis@... writes:

                      I was able to find both these issues on ebay some years back. They
                      are the best fan based mags I've ever come across. Lots of great
                      photos and not the usual boring "Character data base" crap people
                      type up on their computers and try and pawn off on those of us
                      desperate for anything new from the Apes world. Its a shame they
                      couldn't make this work.


                      Very True on all points!

                      I have only one issue of it, but I like it very much too... But, from what I understand, it wasn't so much that they couldn't "make it work" that it's not around anymore, I heard it was that the two guys involved couldn'r get along and that's why it folded so quickly... Either way, APESFAN was excellent, it surely beat the hell out of any "chronicles" out there...
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                      Group: potadg Message: 38745 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/20/2006
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                      I am not aware of them!

                       

                      Michael

                       

                      -----Original Message-----
                      From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
                      Sent: Thursday, 20 April 2006 7:39 AM
                      To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                      Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles

                       

                      I would love to see these! anyone remember these? are
                      they US or UK products?

                      Tim

                      --- John Brandon Kirtley <johnbkirtley@...>
                      wrote:

                      > Dear Tim,
                      >
                      > These look great but not the ones I mean. They were
                      > small head paintings that weren't for tea-shirts. I
                      > think they were for jeans or jackets or whatever. I
                      > haven't ever seen them in any pota sale or
                      > collectable list. Maybe they weren't official
                      > pota stuff. They were very well done though. I
                      > unfortunatly
                      > don't have a copy or any information on them
                      > whatsoever.
                      >
                      > Maybe we can put out a call on the message boards?
                      >
                      > JBK
                      >   ----- Original Message -----
                      >   From: Tim "apefan"<mailto:apefan23@...>
                      >   To:
                      >
                      PotaDG@yahoogroups.com<mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
                      >
                      >   Sent: 19 April 2006 00:31
                      >   Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles
                      >
                      >
                      >   Hey JBK.....
                      >
                      >   The iron on transfers are a bit bigger than 3
                      >   inches...or at least the ones I have......the
                      > Zaius
                      >   one I have printed on a shirt  from when I was a
                      > kid
                      >   is about 8 x10....I also have all three (Zaius,
                      > Galen
                      >   and Urko) that are "un-ironed on".....they are
                      > about 9
                      >   x 11 ....I bought these a few years ago  and I was
                      >   thinking that they were original and just never
                      > used
                      >   but now that I have seen them popping up alot I'm
                      >   thinking that they are re-issued "pop culture"
                      >   transfers......Still pretty cool though! Do you
                      > happen
                      >   to have a pic of the smaller versions? Here are
                      > pics
                      >   of mine...
                      >
                      >   Tim
                      >
                      >   --- John Brandon Kirtley
                      > <johnbkirtley@...>
                      >   wrote:
                      >
                      >   > Dear Tim,
                      >   >
                      >   > I have been looking for the very rare (by the
                      > looks
                      >   > of things) small iron on transfers. I bought one
                      > on
                      >   > holiday in 75/6. They were about three inches in
                      >   > diameter and were great head paintings of the TV
                      >   > characters. I had Galen ironed onto my jeans and
                      >   > remember being in love with the artwork.
                      >   > Never heard of them or seen them since. Has
                      > anyone
                      >   > else?
                      >   >
                      >   > JBK
                      >   >   ----- Original Message -----
                      >   >   From: Tim "apefan"<mailto:apefan23@...>
                      >   >   To:
                      >   >
                      > 
                      >
                      PotaDG@yahoogroups.com<mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
                      >   >
                      >   >   Sent: 18 April 2006 16:48
                      >   >   Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Collectibles
                      >   >
                      >   >
                      >   >   Yes they were listed quite a while
                      > ago....havent
                      >   > seen
                      >   >   them since.....
                      >   >
                      >   >   --- Michael Whitty
                      >   >
                      > 
                      >
                      <whitty@...<mailto:whitty@...>>
                      >   > wrote:
                      >   >
                      >   >   > Oh I mean quite a while ago they were listed
                      > on
                      >   >   > ebay?
                      >   >   > 
                      >   >   > -----Original Message-----
                      >   >   > From:
                      >   >
                      > 
                      >
                      PotaDG@yahoogroups.com<mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
                      >   >   > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
                      >   >   > Of Tim "apefan"
                      >   >   > Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 8:32 AM
                      >   >   > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                      >   >   > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles
                      >   >   > 
                      >   >   > They were put out when everything else
                      >   > was....'74
                      >   >   > most
                      >   >   > likely...
                      >   >   >
                      >   >   > Tim
                      >   >   >
                      >   >   > --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...>
                      >   > wrote:
                      >   >   >
                      >   >   > > Tim, are these quite old?
                      >   >   > > 
                      >   >   > > Michael
                      >   >   > > 
                      >   >   > > -----Original Message-----
                      >   >   > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                      >   >   > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
                      >   >   > > Of Tim "apefan"
                      >   >   > > Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 2:11 AM
                      >   >   > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                      >   >   > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota_tv] Power
                      >   > Records
                      >   >   > > 
                      >   >   > > Here's a few things I was surprised to
                      > find on
                      >   >   > > ebay...I did not get them as they are so
                      > rare
                      >   > I
                      >   >   > > couldn't stay in the bidding.......!
                      >   >   > >
                      >   >   > > Slip on Ape feet.....inflatable floating
                      > vest
                      >   >   > ...and
                      >   >   > > a
                      >   >   > > radio! I thought I had a pic of the POTA
                      >   > BATHMAT!
                      >   >   > > but
                      >   >   > > I can't find it....apparently rare because
                      >   > they
                      >   >   > were
                      >   >   > > used and got all mildewy I guess....
                      >   >   > >
                      >   >   > > TIm
                      >   >   > >
                      >   >   > >
                      >   >   > >
                      >   >   > > --- Michael Whitty
                      > <whitty@...>
                      >   > wrote:
                      >   >   > >
                      >   >   > > > There sure could be.
                      >   >   > >

                      > 

                      >   >   > > > Every year something comes up no other
                      > fan
                      >   > ever
                      >   >   > > knew
                      >   >   > > > about.
                      >   >   > >
                      > 

                      >   >   > > > Michael
                      >   >   > >
                      > 

                      >   >   > > > -----Original Message-----
                      >   >   > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                      >   >   > > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
                      > Behalf
                      >   >   > > > Of Neil
                      >   >   > > > Sent: Monday, 17 April 2006 8:40 AM
                      >   >   > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                      >   >   > > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: [pota_tv] Power
                      >   > Records
                      >   >   > >
                      > 

                      >   >   > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael
                      >   > Whitty"
                      >   >   > > > <whitty@...> wrote:
                      >   >   > > >
                      > These finds really excite me!

                      >   >   > > >
                      > I always thought there was a counter

                      >   > display
                      >   >   > for
                      >   >   > > > the Power Records
                      >   >   > > > (the movies) - I have a recollection of
                      >   > these.
                      >   >   > > But
                      >   >   > > > I really don't
                      >   >   > > > trust this ancient memory!
                      >   >   > > >
                      > It's great to see things like this.

                      >   >   > > >
                      >   >   > > > -- Makes you wonder what else is out
                      > there
                      >   > that
                      >   >   > > > hasn't surfaced,
                      >   >   > > > surely there couldn't be too much more
                      > stuff
                      >   >   > could
                      >   >   > > > there?
                      >   >   > > >
                      >   >   > >
                      >   >   > > --
                      >   >   > > This message has been scanned for viruses
                      > and
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                      I think it’s more about being the only guy on the block to have one....

                       

                      Michael

                       

                      -----Original Message-----
                      From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
                      Sent: Thursday, 20 April 2006 11:10 AM
                      To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                      Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles

                       

                      The day I'd pay $800.00 would be a COLD day in hell... I'd rather spend that kinda APES ching on posters or something that's cool...





                      In a message dated 4/18/2006 6:39:34 PM Central Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:


                      damn.........

                      --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:

                      >I saw the "feet" in original package.  I think they
                      >went for around $800
                      >




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                      Group: potadg Message: 38747 From: patrickmichaeltilton Date: 4/20/2006
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                      --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@... wrote:
                      >
                      > In a message dated 4/19/06 7:52:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
                      > whitty@... writes:
                      > > I think this is the bit you like:
                      > >
                      > > Completists might be annoyed that neither package contains the
                      theatrical release of Battle, leaving the truly anal-retentive
                      holding on to one disc from the old set, but the fanbase of that film
                      is virtually non-existent though it is arguably more entertaining
                      that the Burton version.
                      > >
                      >
                      > Yes, I'm definitely the anal-retentive one here: I'd like to keep
                      PLANET up my ass so Patrick can't get his hands on it -- but I know
                      that wouldn't work!
                      >
                      > Anyway, "the fanbase of that film is virtually non-existent" line
                      still cracks me up, but of course we know that's not true, especially
                      in the other group.
                      >
                      > -- Rory
                      >
                      ----------------------------------------------------------

                      *** Rory, if I "had my hands" on PLANET, you'd probably be very very
                      VERY grateful. By that, I mean that if I had the power to force Fox
                      to dredge up all the filmed footage that had been shot for PLANET and
                      yet edited out from the "final cut" for whatever reasons, and produce
                      an "extended cut" version, you'd be the first to applaud it. Such an
                      extended cut would not replace the version we all know and love --
                      nor would it be intended to do so. But it would give us POTA fans a
                      chance to actually see those scenes that we KNOW were filmed and yet
                      have never seen (save in an occasional still image or two). I'm
                      talkin' 'bout scenes like the one where Taylor (when he first escapes
                      his cage) goes into that river at one point... like the one where
                      Zira & Lucius' wagon is stopped by the Hunt Club gorillas... like the
                      one where Zira attends to Nova and discovers she's pregnant.

                      If I "had my hands" on PLANET -- if I could get access to their
                      archives and oversee the production of such an "extended cut",
                      wouldn't you be glad that it was made? Hell, if "HIGHLANDER 2: THE
                      QUICKENING" can have more than one version floatin' around out there,
                      then why the hell not PLANET???

                      As for that "Legacy Review", who here gives two shits what that jerk
                      thinks about BATTLE (or POTA in general)? My copy was delivered on
                      Saturday (the Caesar Head and all), and I just watched the "complete"
                      cut of BATTLE. Purists, in my opinion, are those who are finally in
                      possession of an official release of BATTLE as it should've been
                      released in America (the Japanese, after all, had this version). And,
                      the more I see BATTLE -- especially the 'extended' cut version -- the
                      more I like it. Not only is this jerk wrong about BATTLE not having a
                      fanbase, but at least one fan (me) likes it more each time I see it.
                      I'll never like it as much as I love PLANET, but given its budgetary
                      limitations (etc) it told a good story. A story that even YOU seem to
                      care about enough, since you insist [wrongly] that there's a "changed
                      timeline" introduced in it. Would you argue so often and so loudly
                      about a film you totally despised? Frankly, I doubt it. I think that
                      you, deep down, secretly like all the POTA sequels, even though you
                      lament that they weren't all as magnificent as the 1st film.

                      Patrick
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                      --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > Alas, there were only 2 issues of Apesfan, but both were very good.
                      > The second one was a "Roddy" tribute as he had just passed away.
                      > I was lucky enough to have tracked down one of the original
                      writers, George Reis through an old obscure link that one of his
                      friends had on a site. By chance, George also had a few copies left
                      and sold me copies of both.
                      >
                      > Dario

                      -----------------------------------------------------------

                      *** I had the privilege of having a 4-page article of mine used by
                      Misters Reis and Lozowsky, in the 2nd (and final) issue of APESFAN,
                      on pages 52 through 55, entitled "A CHRONOLOGY OF THE PLANET OF THE
                      APES".

                      Why didn't APESFAN continue? In one word: the INTERNET. Fanzines are
                      basically passe now, since the internet has resources no
                      printed 'zine can possibly match. Mpegs, jpegs, pdfs, you name it.

                      Still, it was a great pleasure to have in my hands a full POTA
                      magazine again, with no advertisements cluttering it up (remember
                      those LA SALLE EXTENSION UNIVERSITY full page ads on the back covers
                      of the MARVEL POTA mags, anybody? did anybody here ever take their
                      correspondence courses? I didn't THINK so...!). Every page (and there
                      were 60 of 'em in the 2nd issue) was pure POTA. Done BY the fans FOR
                      the fans. I'm proud to have been a small part of that. I'm sure Jeff
                      feels the same way I do (his contributions are on pages 8 and 9 of
                      that same 2nd issue).

                      Patrick
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                      --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Ty Templeton" <tybunny@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > ABSOLUTELY we are aware of Project 13.
                      >
                      > I have a copy of the film...more or less based on a true story, by
                      the way.
                      >
                      > Ty

                      *** Really? "PROJECT 13" was based on a true story? It wouldn't
                      surprise me if primates HAD been used in military testing and all
                      that, but I didn't know that this particular movie was "based on a
                      true story". Do you have any other background on this?

                      By the way, if whoever has the copyright to that movie does notice
                      your REVOLUTION/POTA comic, I hope they don't get uppity and threaten
                      any lawsuits over the similarities. I hope they look on it as an
                      homage, a tip-of-the-hat to another movie about the inhuman treatment
                      of primates by other primates. I'm sure they were more-than-aware of
                      PLANET OF THE APES when they made their movie (especially CONQUEST,
                      to which it bears more than a minimal resemblance).

                      I should go out and buy a copy of that movie on DVD and watch it
                      again. I saw it when it first was in theaters and liked it a whole
                      hell of a lot.

                      On another note, let me say something about your comic book, which I
                      am enjoying (btw).

                      I'm a bit concerned with this notion you've put forward that Caesar
                      had grown up having "post-cognitive" visions of the End of the World,
                      due to having been in Zira's womb during the events of PLANET and
                      BENEATH. If I may quote from your "CAESAR'S JOURNAL" in issue #3,
                      page 1:

                      "I remember my parents. Talking apes from the future, executed by the
                      U.S. Government two days after I was born -- to keep the future from
                      happening.

                      THIS future.

                      Armando told me. But I already knew. I remember them. I remember my
                      mother. I remember the day I was born. But I remember the day before
                      as well. Just as clearly as I remember the day after tomorrow.

                      HOW?

                      I dream of my parents escaping a bloody war in the future.-- coming
                      back in time. I dream the war with the gorillas and the terrible
                      scarred descendants of man -- I remember the evil controlling orang-
                      utans of my parent's far distant world. I remember the Earth burning
                      and every living soul on its surface crumbling into hot ash."

                      Later, on page 29, you guys have Caesar telling Armando: "But
                      sometimes I dream awful things. Explosions. Bombs. Wars. Men with
                      scars who wear masks. Gorillas on horses hunting people..."

                      Now, Ty, I'm not telling you guys to stop making this comic book, or
                      that I'll stop buying it just because I can never consider it as part
                      of the POTA "canon", but I do have a problem with this whole approach
                      to Caesar. This notion that he has somehow had dreams all through his
                      formative years that (obviously) are not "mere dreams" at all, but
                      awarenesses of the actual situation on Earth when his parents were
                      living in the future.

                      In CONQUEST, it is made fairly plain that Caesar had no idea
                      whatsoever that the apes in the cities (in 1991) had been enslaved.
                      The character arc he undergoes in that film alone involves an initial
                      complete ignorance of the sorry condition of his "fellow apes"
                      (his "own kind"), followed by the shock-to-the-system that transpires
                      once he sees with his own eyes the brutality inflicted on the apes.

                      In BATTLE, Caesar goes out of his way to tell MacDonald that with
                      Apes at the helm, the Earth will sail through the Universe until the
                      end of Time, and Virgil says that Time HAS NO END, so he (Caesar)
                      can't believe MacDonald's "pessimism" about the End of the World.
                      Indeed, it is only because of MacDonald telling him about the
                      existence of the sealed tapes from the 1973 Presidential Commission
                      (and their subsequent journey to the Forbidden City to see and hear
                      the images and voices of his deceased parents) that Caesar FIRST
                      becomes aware of the fact that the Earth will be destroyed. After
                      hearing Hasslein's voice mention "The Date-Meter on the spaceship:
                      what did it read after Earth's destruction?" and Zira's voice mention
                      the date "Thirty-Nine Fifty--" Caesar reproaches Virgil, saying, "And
                      YOU talk to your pupils about Eternity!"

                      After hearing his father's voice talk about the ape who said 'No' to
                      a human, Caesar declares: "No WONDER all mankind thirsted for my
                      blood and wanted my birth aborted! In the year Thirty-Nine Fifty,
                      apes will destroy the Earth!"

                      I just don't see how it can be possible, Ty, for Caesar to have had
                      dreams -- nightmares -- about the End of the World BEFORE the events
                      I've recapped from BATTLE. Caesar, at the beginning of the film,
                      makes a distinction regarding "human" history and "ape" history,
                      insisting that Apes are different from the Humans, and that the
                      trends of human history don't apply, now that Apes are in control.
                      The whole point of the film was to show that the Apes are NO
                      DIFFERENT from the Humans; that if Humans destroyed their own
                      civilization with nukes, Apes have that SAME FLAW which will also
                      eventually lead to the destruction of ALL civilization in the
                      year "3950" (as heard from Zira's drunken testimony) due to "the
                      gorillas' war". When MacDonald tells Jake that the Apes --
                      chanting "Ape has killed Ape!" over and over again -- have joined the
                      Human Race, that's the whole point of the film. And that point
                      completes the character arc of Caesar, with his realization that
                      Armando was right about one thing (and I'm quoting from David
                      Gerrold's novelization of the scene): "... we must love one another
                      or die." [BATTLE, chapter 2]

                      In the actual film, that scene begins with Caesar watering a plant
                      (like Adam "tending the garden" perhaps?...) and musing, "Oh, if only
                      my mother and father, whom I was too young to remember... if only
                      they'd lived, perhaps they would've taught me if it was right to kill
                      Evil, so that Good should prevail."

                      Watch that scene again, Ty, and tell me how it is that a younger
                      Caesar (in your comic) can write in his journal, "I remember my
                      parents" and "I remember my mother" and all those other Remembers you
                      have him writing down... when he LATER tells MacDonald that he "was
                      too young to remember" his parents. I just can't square it with the
                      dialogue Caesar speaks in BATTLE. He DIDN'T know his parents. He only
                      knew OF them what he had been taught by Armando -- who, in the
                      opening scenes of CONQUEST, recapped what he'd always taught him:
                      that he (Caesar) is the only talking ape on Earth (he supposes), the
                      child of the two talking apes, Zira and Cornelius, who came from the
                      Future and were brutally murdered because it was feared that -- one
                      very distant day -- "apes would dominate the human race".

                      Armando didn't know about the End of the World. Cornelius and Zira
                      witnessed it, and they told Lewis Dixon and Stephanie Branton about
                      it. And, under the influence of "Grape Juice Plus", Zira divulged it
                      to Hasslein (whence the President and his Commission found out about
                      it)... but there is no evidence whatsoever that ARMANDO had ever been
                      told about it. He indicates his ignorance of "Doomsday" in that recap
                      dialogue at the beginning of CONQUEST: he thinks that Zira and
                      Cornelius were murdered (along with the baby chimp Zira switched with
                      Heloise) out of the fear of Ape Dominance over Man. He didn't know
                      about Doomsday. Neither did Caesar -- until he heard MacDonald
                      mention it "from the lips of [his] own parents".

                      Don't get me wrong, Ty. I'm enjoying the comic, the same way I
                      enjoyed some of the other POTA comics that made their way to print
                      ("URCHAK'S FOLLY"... Marvel's "TERROR" series, etc). But due to these
                      elements that just don't gibe with the "canon" details given in the
                      movies, I can't consider "REVOLUTION" to be part of the POTA canon.
                      For me, they'll have to be relegated to the POTA Apocrypha, if you
                      will. That doesn't mean they aren't worth reading (they are). It just
                      means that I can't categorize 'em with the 5-film saga.

                      Hell, I wish it were possible to reconcile Marvel's "TERROR" series
                      with the filmed POTA saga, but it, too, must be
                      considered 'apocryphal' (for my tastes), even though I found 'em
                      vastly entertaining. Remember when Gunpowder Julius kicked Brutus'
                      ass in that knock-down drag-out fistfight? Or when Lightsmith showed
                      Jason and Alexander his Wonder Wagon? I wish I could reconcile all
                      of "TERROR" with the POTA 'canon'... but I just can't see fit to
                      include the Psychedrome and the Gorilloids (etc etc) into the same
                      universe plausibly.

                      But that's just me.

                      Keep on makin' these new comics, Ty, and don't worry -- I'll buy 'em
                      (2 copies of each, plus the 'graphic novel' version when it comes
                      out) and read 'em and (trust me) I'll enjoy 'em. But I can't
                      consider 'em 'canon'.

                      If you can explain away the discrepancies I've pointed out (with
                      quotes from the relevant films), I'm all ears! By all means, convince
                      me that it 'works', despite my misgivings. I'd be happy to revise my
                      opinion. But you have some 'splainin' to do!

                      Respectfully,

                      Patrick Tilton
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                      Group: potadg Message: 38750 From: Ty Templeton Date: 4/20/2006
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                      Of course we're aware of all the stuff you pointed out.  We're playing with the concept of fatalism and timelines in our story, and may not end in the "circular" timeline you're expecting. 

                      The Caesar's Journal in #4 (due out in a couple of weeks) includes mentions that he's dreams are stopping, and that he's not even remembering them any more.  The entire circular timeline suggests that Cornelius and Zira would eventually show up, many generations after their own progeny, and so would the bomb that ends the world....

                      But what if THIS Caesar thinks of a way to STOP the future from coming true... What if this is a version of Planet of the Apes where the timeline ISN'T a circle?

                      We're playing in that sandbox, and it has a really fun ending.  But I don't want to give away anything else.

                      Ty the Guy.



                      On 4/20/06, patrickmichaeltilton < patrickmichaeltilton@...> wrote:
                      --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Ty Templeton" <tybunny@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > ABSOLUTELY we are aware of Project 13.
                      >
                      > I have a copy of the film...more or less based on a true story, by
                      the way.
                      >
                      > Ty

                      *** Really? "PROJECT 13" was based on a true story? It wouldn't
                      surprise me if primates HAD been used in military testing and all
                      that, but I didn't know that this particular movie was "based on a
                      true story". Do you have any other background on this?

                      By the way, if whoever has the copyright to that movie does notice
                      your REVOLUTION/POTA comic, I hope they don't get uppity and threaten
                      any lawsuits over the similarities. I hope they look on it as an
                      homage, a tip-of-the-hat to another movie about the inhuman treatment
                      of primates by other primates. I'm sure they were more-than-aware of
                      PLANET OF THE APES when they made their movie (especially CONQUEST,
                      to which it bears more than a minimal resemblance).

                      I should go out and buy a copy of that movie on DVD and watch it
                      again. I saw it when it first was in theaters and liked it a whole
                      hell of a lot.

                      On another note, let me say something about your comic book, which I
                      am enjoying (btw).

                      I'm a bit concerned with this notion you've put forward that Caesar
                      had grown up having "post-cognitive" visions of the End of the World,
                      due to having been in Zira's womb during the events of PLANET and
                      BENEATH. If I may quote from your "CAESAR'S JOURNAL" in issue #3,
                      page 1:

                      "I remember my parents. Talking apes from the future, executed by the
                      U.S. Government two days after I was born -- to keep the future from
                      happening.

                      THIS future.

                      Armando told me. But I already knew. I remember them. I remember my
                      mother. I remember the day I was born. But I remember the day before
                      as well. Just as clearly as I remember the day after tomorrow.

                      HOW?

                      I dream of my parents escaping a bloody war in the future.-- coming
                      back in time. I dream the war with the gorillas and the terrible
                      scarred descendants of man -- I remember the evil controlling orang-
                      utans of my parent's far distant world. I remember the Earth burning
                      and every living soul on its surface crumbling into hot ash."

                      Later, on page 29, you guys have Caesar telling Armando: "But
                      sometimes I dream awful things. Explosions. Bombs. Wars. Men with
                      scars who wear masks. Gorillas on horses hunting people..."

                      Now, Ty, I'm not telling you guys to stop making this comic book, or
                      that I'll stop buying it just because I can never consider it as part
                      of the POTA "canon", but I do have a problem with this whole approach
                      to Caesar. This notion that he has somehow had dreams all through his
                      formative years that (obviously) are not "mere dreams" at all, but
                      awarenesses of the actual situation on Earth when his parents were
                      living in the future.

                      In CONQUEST, it is made fairly plain that Caesar had no idea
                      whatsoever that the apes in the cities (in 1991) had been enslaved.
                      The character arc he undergoes in that film alone involves an initial
                      complete ignorance of the sorry condition of his "fellow apes"
                      (his "own kind"), followed by the shock-to-the-system that transpires
                      once he sees with his own eyes the brutality inflicted on the apes.

                      In BATTLE, Caesar goes out of his way to tell MacDonald that with
                      Apes at the helm, the Earth will sail through the Universe until the
                      end of Time, and Virgil says that Time HAS NO END, so he (Caesar)
                      can't believe MacDonald's "pessimism" about the End of the World.
                      Indeed, it is only because of MacDonald telling him about the
                      existence of the sealed tapes from the 1973 Presidential Commission
                      (and their subsequent journey to the Forbidden City to see and hear
                      the images and voices of his deceased parents) that Caesar FIRST
                      becomes aware of the fact that the Earth will be destroyed. After
                      hearing Hasslein's voice mention "The Date-Meter on the spaceship:
                      what did it read after Earth's destruction?" and Zira's voice mention
                      the date "Thirty-Nine Fifty--" Caesar reproaches Virgil, saying, "And
                      YOU talk to your pupils about Eternity!"

                      After hearing his father's voice talk about the ape who said 'No' to
                      a human, Caesar declares: "No WONDER all mankind thirsted for my
                      blood and wanted my birth aborted! In the year Thirty-Nine Fifty,
                      apes will destroy the Earth!"

                      I just don't see how it can be possible, Ty, for Caesar to have had
                      dreams -- nightmares -- about the End of the World BEFORE the events
                      I've recapped from BATTLE. Caesar, at the beginning of the film,
                      makes a distinction regarding "human" history and "ape" history,
                      insisting that Apes are different from the Humans, and that the
                      trends of human history don't apply, now that Apes are in control.
                      The whole point of the film was to show that the Apes are NO
                      DIFFERENT from the Humans; that if Humans destroyed their own
                      civilization with nukes, Apes have that SAME FLAW which will also
                      eventually lead to the destruction of ALL civilization in the
                      year "3950" (as heard from Zira's drunken testimony) due to "the
                      gorillas' war". When MacDonald tells Jake that the Apes --
                      chanting "Ape has killed Ape!" over and over again -- have joined the
                      Human Race, that's the whole point of the film. And that point
                      completes the character arc of Caesar, with his realization that
                      Armando was right about one thing (and I'm quoting from David
                      Gerrold's novelization of the scene): "... we must love one another
                      or die." [BATTLE, chapter 2]

                      In the actual film, that scene begins with Caesar watering a plant
                      (like Adam "tending the garden" perhaps?...) and musing, "Oh, if only
                      my mother and father, whom I was too young to remember... if only
                      they'd lived, perhaps they would've taught me if it was right to kill
                      Evil, so that Good should prevail."

                      Watch that scene again, Ty, and tell me how it is that a younger
                      Caesar (in your comic) can write in his journal, "I remember my
                      parents" and "I remember my mother" and all those other Remembers you
                      have him writing down... when he LATER tells MacDonald that he "was
                      too young to remember" his parents. I just can't square it with the
                      dialogue Caesar speaks in BATTLE. He DIDN'T know his parents. He only
                      knew OF them what he had been taught by Armando -- who, in the
                      opening scenes of CONQUEST, recapped what he'd always taught him:
                      that he (Caesar) is the only talking ape on Earth (he supposes), the
                      child of the two talking apes, Zira and Cornelius, who came from the
                      Future and were brutally murdered because it was feared that -- one
                      very distant day -- "apes would dominate the human race".

                      Armando didn't know about the End of the World. Cornelius and Zira
                      witnessed it, and they told Lewis Dixon and Stephanie Branton about
                      it. And, under the influence of "Grape Juice Plus", Zira divulged it
                      to Hasslein (whence the President and his Commission found out about
                      it)... but there is no evidence whatsoever that ARMANDO had ever been
                      told about it. He indicates his ignorance of "Doomsday" in that recap
                      dialogue at the beginning of CONQUEST: he thinks that Zira and
                      Cornelius were murdered (along with the baby chimp Zira switched with
                      Heloise) out of the fear of Ape Dominance over Man. He didn't know
                      about Doomsday. Neither did Caesar -- until he heard MacDonald
                      mention it "from the lips of [his] own parents".

                      Don't get me wrong, Ty. I'm enjoying the comic, the same way I
                      enjoyed some of the other POTA comics that made their way to print
                      ("URCHAK'S FOLLY"... Marvel's "TERROR" series, etc). But due to these
                      elements that just don't gibe with the "canon" details given in the
                      movies, I can't consider "REVOLUTION" to be part of the POTA canon.
                      For me, they'll have to be relegated to the POTA Apocrypha, if you
                      will. That doesn't mean they aren't worth reading (they are). It just
                      means that I can't categorize 'em with the 5-film saga.

                      Hell, I wish it were possible to reconcile Marvel's "TERROR" series
                      with the filmed POTA saga, but it, too, must be
                      considered 'apocryphal' (for my tastes), even though I found 'em
                      vastly entertaining. Remember when Gunpowder Julius kicked Brutus'
                      ass in that knock-down drag-out fistfight? Or when Lightsmith showed
                      Jason and Alexander his Wonder Wagon? I wish I could reconcile all
                      of "TERROR" with the POTA 'canon'... but I just can't see fit to
                      include the Psychedrome and the Gorilloids (etc etc) into the same
                      universe plausibly.

                      But that's just me.

                      Keep on makin' these new comics, Ty, and don't worry -- I'll buy 'em
                      (2 copies of each, plus the 'graphic novel' version when it comes
                      out) and read 'em and (trust me) I'll enjoy 'em. But I can't
                      consider 'em 'canon'.

                      If you can explain away the discrepancies I've pointed out (with
                      quotes from the relevant films), I'm all ears! By all means, convince
                      me that it 'works', despite my misgivings. I'd be happy to revise my
                      opinion. But you have some 'splainin' to do!

                      Respectfully,

                      Patrick Tilton
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                      Just when we thought it couldn’t get better....it gets better!  J

                       

                      -----Original Message-----
                      From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ty Templeton
                      Sent:                       Friday, 21 April 2006 7:07 AM
                      To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                      Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: RotPotA #3

                       

                      But what if THIS Caesar thinks of a way to STOP the future from coming true... What if this is a version of Planet of the Apes where the timeline ISN'T a circle?

                      We're playing in that sandbox, and it has a really fun ending.  But I don't want to give away anything else.

                      Ty the Guy.


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                      Group: potadg Message: 38752 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/20/2006
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                      .html.html In a message dated 4/20/06 5:17:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:


                      Just when we thought it couldn't get better....it gets better!  J

                      -----Original Message-----
                      From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ty Templeton
                      Sent: Friday, 21 April 2006 7:07 AM
                      To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                      Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: RotPotA #3

                      But what if THIS Caesar thinks of a way to STOP the future from coming true... What if this is a version of Planet of the Apes where the timeline ISN'T a circle?

                      We're playing in that sandbox, and it has a really fun ending.  But I don't want to give away anything else.

                      Ty the Guy.




                      Oh, I see... according to you guys the film series' timeline is a circle, but when you make up your own stuff it's not a circle!

                      Charming.

                      -- Rory                      <.html                       <.html
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                      Group: potadg Message: 38753 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/20/2006
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                      .html.html In a message dated 4/20/06 2:39:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:


                      *** Rory, if I "had my hands" on PLANET, you'd probably be very very
                      VERY grateful. By that, I mean that if I had the power to force Fox
                      to dredge up all the filmed footage that had been shot for PLANET and
                      yet edited out from the "final cut" for whatever reasons, and produce
                      an "extended cut" version, you'd be the first to applaud it. Such an
                      extended cut would not replace the version we all know and love --
                      nor would it be intended to do so. But it would give us POTA fans a
                      chance to actually see those scenes that we KNOW were filmed and yet
                      have never seen (save in an occasional still image or two). I'm
                      talkin' 'bout scenes like the one where Taylor (when he first escapes
                      his cage) goes into that river at one point... like the one where
                      Zira & Lucius' wagon is stopped by the Hunt Club gorillas... like the
                      one where Zira attends to Nova and discovers she's pregnant.

                      If I "had my hands" on PLANET -- if I could get access to their
                      archives and oversee the production of such an "extended cut",
                      wouldn't you be glad that it was made? Hell, if "HIGHLANDER 2: THE
                      QUICKENING" can have more than one version floatin' around out there,
                      then why the hell not PLANET???

                      As for that "Legacy Review", who here gives two shits what that jerk
                      thinks about BATTLE (or POTA in general)? My copy was delivered on
                      Saturday (the Caesar Head and all), and I just watched the "complete"
                      cut of BATTLE. Purists, in my opinion, are those who are finally in
                      possession of an official release of BATTLE as it should've been
                      released in America (the Japanese, after all, had this version). And,
                      the more I see BATTLE -- especially the 'extended' cut version -- the
                      more I like it. Not only is this jerk wrong about BATTLE not having a
                      fanbase, but at least one fan (me) likes it more each time I see it.
                      I'll never like it as much as I love PLANET, but given its budgetary
                      limitations (etc) it told a good story. A story that even YOU seem to
                      care about enough, since you insist [wrongly] that there's a "changed
                      timeline" introduced in it. Would you argue so often and so loudly
                      about a film you totally despised? Frankly, I doubt it. I think that
                      you, deep down, secretly like all the POTA sequels, even though you
                      lament that they weren't all as magnificent as the 1st film.

                      Patrick


                      Oh, God.....  Where is Dr. Zaius with that lobotomy scalpel when you need it?

                      Patrick, I firmly believe you simply don't know any better, you just have no idea how egregious you are.

                      Not only wouldn't I applaud you "getting your hands" on PLANET, but just the thought of it fills me with horror.

                      I'm absolutely against any kind of "extended cut" of PLANET.  Such a thing would have no legitimacy whatsoever.  Franklin J. Schaffner is the only person that could do such a thing -- and he's dead.  So, that's that.  The film is what it is, and I think the Directors Guild of America would agree.  Arthur P. Jacobs is dead too, so both producer and director are dead and that sets the version we've always had even more in concrete.

                      To create an artificial "extended cut" of PLANET would be a violation of the artistic intent of the filmmakers.  It would be an abomination.

                      I'm also against any such thing being done to BENEATH and all the other sequels.  (The extended version of BATTLE has been around since the seventies and while J. Lee Thompson was still alive, so I assume he was OK with it.)

                      Patrick, even since I first knew of you and your revisionist views of POTA I've lived in horror of you.  You're monstrous!  I don't like your "unflubbing" of the sequels.  I have enough respect for the sequels to simply do the right thing -- that being LEAVE THEM ALONE!  So they have "continuity problems."  So what?  Who asked you to butt in?

                      And while we're no the subject I'll ONCE AGAIN repeat that PLANET came first, everything in PLANET is canon.... AND THAT INCLUDES THE EARTH TIME DATE of 3978 A.D.

                      The sequels got the date wrong, NOT PLANET!!!

                      Patrick, if you had any kind of respect for PLANET you'd not call anything in it "a mistake."

                      I just wish that Franklin J. Schaffner was alive.  I'm sure he too would find you MOST EGREGIOUS!

                      -- Rory

                      PS

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                      Group: potadg Message: 38754 From: rassmguy Date: 4/20/2006
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                      Hmmmm.....very interesting! Now I wish I had issues 4-6.


                      --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Ty Templeton" <tybunny@...> wrote:
                      >
                      > Of course we're aware of all the stuff you pointed out. We're playing with
                      > the concept of fatalism and timelines in our story, and may not end in the
                      > "circular" timeline you're expecting.
                      >
                      > The Caesar's Journal in #4 (due out in a couple of weeks) includes mentions
                      > that he's dreams are stopping, and that he's not even remembering them any
                      > more. The entire circular timeline suggests that Cornelius and Zira would
                      > eventually show up, many generations after their own progeny, and so would
                      > the bomb that ends the world....
                      >
                      > But what if THIS Caesar thinks of a way to STOP the future from coming
                      > true... What if this is a version of Planet of the Apes where the timeline
                      > ISN'T a circle?
                      >
                      > We're playing in that sandbox, and it has a really fun ending. But I don't
                      > want to give away anything else.
                      >
                      > Ty the Guy.
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      > On 4/20/06, patrickmichaeltilton <patrickmichaeltilton@...> wrote:
                      > >
                      > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Ty Templeton" <tybunny@> wrote:
                      > > >
                      > > > ABSOLUTELY we are aware of Project 13.
                      > > >
                      > > > I have a copy of the film...more or less based on a true story, by
                      > > the way.
                      > > >
                      > > > Ty
                      > >
                      > > *** Really? "PROJECT 13" was based on a true story? It wouldn't
                      > > surprise me if primates HAD been used in military testing and all
                      > > that, but I didn't know that this particular movie was "based on a
                      > > true story". Do you have any other background on this?
                      > >
                      > > By the way, if whoever has the copyright to that movie does notice
                      > > your REVOLUTION/POTA comic, I hope they don't get uppity and threaten
                      > > any lawsuits over the similarities. I hope they look on it as an
                      > > homage, a tip-of-the-hat to another movie about the inhuman treatment
                      > > of primates by other primates. I'm sure they were more-than-aware of
                      > > PLANET OF THE APES when they made their movie (especially CONQUEST,
                      > > to which it bears more than a minimal resemblance).
                      > >
                      > > I should go out and buy a copy of that movie on DVD and watch it
                      > > again. I saw it when it first was in theaters and liked it a whole
                      > > hell of a lot.
                      > >
                      > > On another note, let me say something about your comic book, which I
                      > > am enjoying (btw).
                      > >
                      > > I'm a bit concerned with this notion you've put forward that Caesar
                      > > had grown up having "post-cognitive" visions of the End of the World,
                      > > due to having been in Zira's womb during the events of PLANET and
                      > > BENEATH. If I may quote from your "CAESAR'S JOURNAL" in issue #3,
                      > > page 1:
                      > >
                      > > "I remember my parents. Talking apes from the future, executed by the
                      > > U.S. Government two days after I was born -- to keep the future from
                      > > happening.
                      > >
                      > > THIS future.
                      > >
                      > > Armando told me. But I already knew. I remember them. I remember my
                      > > mother. I remember the day I was born. But I remember the day before
                      > > as well. Just as clearly as I remember the day after tomorrow.
                      > >
                      > > HOW?
                      > >
                      > > I dream of my parents escaping a bloody war in the future.-- coming
                      > > back in time. I dream the war with the gorillas and the terrible
                      > > scarred descendants of man -- I remember the evil controlling orang-
                      > > utans of my parent's far distant world. I remember the Earth burning
                      > > and every living soul on its surface crumbling into hot ash."
                      > >
                      > > Later, on page 29, you guys have Caesar telling Armando: "But
                      > > sometimes I dream awful things. Explosions. Bombs. Wars. Men with
                      > > scars who wear masks. Gorillas on horses hunting people..."
                      > >
                      > > Now, Ty, I'm not telling you guys to stop making this comic book, or
                      > > that I'll stop buying it just because I can never consider it as part
                      > > of the POTA "canon", but I do have a problem with this whole approach
                      > > to Caesar. This notion that he has somehow had dreams all through his
                      > > formative years that (obviously) are not "mere dreams" at all, but
                      > > awarenesses of the actual situation on Earth when his parents were
                      > > living in the future.
                      > >
                      > > In CONQUEST, it is made fairly plain that Caesar had no idea
                      > > whatsoever that the apes in the cities (in 1991) had been enslaved.
                      > > The character arc he undergoes in that film alone involves an initial
                      > > complete ignorance of the sorry condition of his "fellow apes"
                      > > (his "own kind"), followed by the shock-to-the-system that transpires
                      > > once he sees with his own eyes the brutality inflicted on the apes.
                      > >
                      > > In BATTLE, Caesar goes out of his way to tell MacDonald that with
                      > > Apes at the helm, the Earth will sail through the Universe until the
                      > > end of Time, and Virgil says that Time HAS NO END, so he (Caesar)
                      > > can't believe MacDonald's "pessimism" about the End of the World.
                      > > Indeed, it is only because of MacDonald telling him about the
                      > > existence of the sealed tapes from the 1973 Presidential Commission
                      > > (and their subsequent journey to the Forbidden City to see and hear
                      > > the images and voices of his deceased parents) that Caesar FIRST
                      > > becomes aware of the fact that the Earth will be destroyed. After
                      > > hearing Hasslein's voice mention "The Date-Meter on the spaceship:
                      > > what did it read after Earth's destruction?" and Zira's voice mention
                      > > the date "Thirty-Nine Fifty--" Caesar reproaches Virgil, saying, "And
                      > > YOU talk to your pupils about Eternity!"
                      > >
                      > > After hearing his father's voice talk about the ape who said 'No' to
                      > > a human, Caesar declares: "No WONDER all mankind thirsted for my
                      > > blood and wanted my birth aborted! In the year Thirty-Nine Fifty,
                      > > apes will destroy the Earth!"
                      > >
                      > > I just don't see how it can be possible, Ty, for Caesar to have had
                      > > dreams -- nightmares -- about the End of the World BEFORE the events
                      > > I've recapped from BATTLE. Caesar, at the beginning of the film,
                      > > makes a distinction regarding "human" history and "ape" history,
                      > > insisting that Apes are different from the Humans, and that the
                      > > trends of human history don't apply, now that Apes are in control.
                      > > The whole point of the film was to show that the Apes are NO
                      > > DIFFERENT from the Humans; that if Humans destroyed their own
                      > > civilization with nukes, Apes have that SAME FLAW which will also
                      > > eventually lead to the destruction of ALL civilization in the
                      > > year "3950" (as heard from Zira's drunken testimony) due to "the
                      > > gorillas' war". When MacDonald tells Jake that the Apes --
                      > > chanting "Ape has killed Ape!" over and over again -- have joined the
                      > > Human Race, that's the whole point of the film. And that point
                      > > completes the character arc of Caesar, with his realization that
                      > > Armando was right about one thing (and I'm quoting from David
                      > > Gerrold's novelization of the scene): "... we must love one another
                      > > or die." [BATTLE, chapter 2]
                      > >
                      > > In the actual film, that scene begins with Caesar watering a plant
                      > > (like Adam "tending the garden" perhaps?...) and musing, "Oh, if only
                      > > my mother and father, whom I was too young to remember... if only
                      > > they'd lived, perhaps they would've taught me if it was right to kill
                      > > Evil, so that Good should prevail."
                      > >
                      > > Watch that scene again, Ty, and tell me how it is that a younger
                      > > Caesar (in your comic) can write in his journal, "I remember my
                      > > parents" and "I remember my mother" and all those other Remembers you
                      > > have him writing down... when he LATER tells MacDonald that he "was
                      > > too young to remember" his parents. I just can't square it with the
                      > > dialogue Caesar speaks in BATTLE. He DIDN'T know his parents. He only
                      > > knew OF them what he had been taught by Armando -- who, in the
                      > > opening scenes of CONQUEST, recapped what he'd always taught him:
                      > > that he (Caesar) is the only talking ape on Earth (he supposes), the
                      > > child of the two talking apes, Zira and Cornelius, who came from the
                      > > Future and were brutally murdered because it was feared that -- one
                      > > very distant day -- "apes would dominate the human race".
                      > >
                      > > Armando didn't know about the End of the World. Cornelius and Zira
                      > > witnessed it, and they told Lewis Dixon and Stephanie Branton about
                      > > it. And, under the influence of "Grape Juice Plus", Zira divulged it
                      > > to Hasslein (whence the President and his Commission found out about
                      > > it)... but there is no evidence whatsoever that ARMANDO had ever been
                      > > told about it. He indicates his ignorance of "Doomsday" in that recap
                      > > dialogue at the beginning of CONQUEST: he thinks that Zira and
                      > > Cornelius were murdered (along with the baby chimp Zira switched with
                      > > Heloise) out of the fear of Ape Dominance over Man. He didn't know
                      > > about Doomsday. Neither did Caesar -- until he heard MacDonald
                      > > mention it "from the lips of [his] own parents".
                      > >
                      > > Don't get me wrong, Ty. I'm enjoying the comic, the same way I
                      > > enjoyed some of the other POTA comics that made their way to print
                      > > ("URCHAK'S FOLLY"... Marvel's "TERROR" series, etc). But due to these
                      > > elements that just don't gibe with the "canon" details given in the
                      > > movies, I can't consider "REVOLUTION" to be part of the POTA canon.
                      > > For me, they'll have to be relegated to the POTA Apocrypha, if you
                      > > will. That doesn't mean they aren't worth reading (they are). It just
                      > > means that I can't categorize 'em with the 5-film saga.
                      > >
                      > > Hell, I wish it were possible to reconcile Marvel's "TERROR" series
                      > > with the filmed POTA saga, but it, too, must be
                      > > considered 'apocryphal' (for my tastes), even though I found 'em
                      > > vastly entertaining. Remember when Gunpowder Julius kicked Brutus'
                      > > ass in that knock-down drag-out fistfight? Or when Lightsmith showed
                      > > Jason and Alexander his Wonder Wagon? I wish I could reconcile all
                      > > of "TERROR" with the POTA 'canon'... but I just can't see fit to
                      > > include the Psychedrome and the Gorilloids (etc etc) into the same
                      > > universe plausibly.
                      > >
                      > > But that's just me.
                      > >
                      > > Keep on makin' these new comics, Ty, and don't worry -- I'll buy 'em
                      > > (2 copies of each, plus the 'graphic novel' version when it comes
                      > > out) and read 'em and (trust me) I'll enjoy 'em. But I can't
                      > > consider 'em 'canon'.
                      > >
                      > > If you can explain away the discrepancies I've pointed out (with
                      > > quotes from the relevant films), I'm all ears! By all means, convince
                      > > me that it 'works', despite my misgivings. I'd be happy to revise my
                      > > opinion. But you have some 'splainin' to do!
                      > >
                      > > Respectfully,
                      > >
                      > > Patrick Tilton
                      > >
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                      Group: potadg Message: 38755 From: rassmguy Date: 4/20/2006
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                      Patrick, you make an excellent point about Caesar's precognition. I hadn't thought about
                      it until you pointed it out, but you're right -- the films make it very clear that Caesar
                      knows nothing of the future until the fourth and fifth films present it to him. I'm
                      interested in what Ty has to say!


                      --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "patrickmichaeltilton" <patrickmichaeltilton@...> wrote:
                      > I'm a bit concerned with this notion you've put forward that Caesar
                      > had grown up having "post-cognitive" visions of the End of the World,
                      > due to having been in Zira's womb during the events of PLANET and
                      > BENEATH. If I may quote from your "CAESAR'S JOURNAL" in issue #3,
                      > page 1:
                      [SNIP FOR BREVITY]
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                      Group: potadg Message: 38756 From: rassmguy Date: 4/20/2006
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                      Rory, Rory, Rory...dude, take a breath, do some yoga, play some tennis, eat a Twinkie. It's
                      just a movie, man. Just a movie. A great movie, yes and one that evokes strong reaction.
                      But still just a movie. To get this worked up about it, or about someone else's view of it
                      is...well...kind of scary, ya' know? Ralax, man. You're among friends. Why go on the
                      attack like that, just because you have a different view of a movie? I often disagree with
                      Patrick's theories as well...but that's kind of the point of a Yahoo group -- to read and
                      consider others' viewpoints, and to discuss them. His theories may be whacky at times,
                      but we're talkng about a universe in which apes learn to talk and build an entire society in
                      only two decades, and in which mutated humans worship a nuclear bomb in the middle of
                      a cathedral. It's ALL whacky, man!



                      --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
                      >
                      > In a message dated 4/20/06 2:39:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
                      > patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:
                      >
                      >
                      > > *** Rory, if I "had my hands" on PLANET, you'd probably be very very
                      > > VERY grateful. By that, I mean that if I had the power to force Fox
                      > > to dredge up all the filmed footage that had been shot for PLANET and
                      > > yet edited out from the "final cut" for whatever reasons, and produce
                      > > an "extended cut" version, you'd be the first to applaud it. Such an
                      > > extended cut would not replace the version we all know and love --
                      > > nor would it be intended to do so. But it would give us POTA fans a
                      > > chance to actually see those scenes that we KNOW were filmed and yet
                      > > have never seen (save in an occasional still image or two). I'm
                      > > talkin' 'bout scenes like the one where Taylor (when he first escapes
                      > > his cage) goes into that river at one point... like the one where
                      > > Zira & Lucius' wagon is stopped by the Hunt Club gorillas... like the
                      > > one where Zira attends to Nova and discovers she's pregnant.
                      > >
                      > > If I "had my hands" on PLANET -- if I could get access to their
                      > > archives and oversee the production of such an "extended cut",
                      > > wouldn't you be glad that it was made? Hell, if "HIGHLANDER 2: THE
                      > > QUICKENING" can have more than one version floatin' around out there,
                      > > then why the hell not PLANET???
                      > >
                      > > As for that "Legacy Review", who here gives two shits what that jerk
                      > > thinks about BATTLE (or POTA in general)? My copy was delivered on
                      > > Saturday (the Caesar Head and all), and I just watched the "complete"
                      > > cut of BATTLE. Purists, in my opinion, are those who are finally in
                      > > possession of an official release of BATTLE as it should've been
                      > > released in America (the Japanese, after all, had this version). And,
                      > > the more I see BATTLE -- especially the 'extended' cut version -- the
                      > > more I like it. Not only is this jerk wrong about BATTLE not having a
                      > > fanbase, but at least one fan (me) likes it more each time I see it.
                      > > I'll never like it as much as I love PLANET, but given its budgetary
                      > > limitations (etc) it told a good story. A story that even YOU seem to
                      > > care about enough, since you insist [wrongly] that there's a "changed
                      > > timeline" introduced in it. Would you argue so often and so loudly
                      > > about a film you totally despised? Frankly, I doubt it. I think that
                      > > you, deep down, secretly like all the POTA sequels, even though you
                      > > lament that they weren't all as magnificent as the 1st film.
                      > >
                      > > Patrick
                      > >
                      >
                      > Oh, God..... Where is Dr. Zaius with that lobotomy scalpel when you need it?
                      >
                      > Patrick, I firmly believe you simply don't know any better, you just have no
                      > idea how egregious you are.
                      >
                      > Not only wouldn't I applaud you "getting your hands" on PLANET, but just the
                      > thought of it fills me with horror.
                      >
                      > I'm absolutely against any kind of "extended cut" of PLANET. Such a thing
                      > would have no legitimacy whatsoever. Franklin J. Schaffner is the only person
                      > that could do such a thing -- and he's dead. So, that's that. The film is
                      > what it is, and I think the Directors Guild of America would agree. Arthur P.
                      > Jacobs is dead too, so both producer and director are dead and that sets the
                      > version we've always had even more in concrete.
                      >
                      > To create an artificial "extended cut" of PLANET would be a violation of the
                      > artistic intent of the filmmakers. It would be an abomination.
                      >
                      > I'm also against any such thing being done to BENEATH and all the other
                      > sequels. (The extended version of BATTLE has been around since the seventies and
                      > while J. Lee Thompson was still alive, so I assume he was OK with it.)
                      >
                      > Patrick, even since I first knew of you and your revisionist views of POTA
                      > I've lived in horror of you. You're monstrous! I don't like your "unflubbing"
                      > of the sequels. I have enough respect for the sequels to simply do the right
                      > thing -- that being LEAVE THEM ALONE! So they have "continuity problems." So
                      > what? Who asked you to butt in?
                      >
                      > And while we're no the subject I'll ONCE AGAIN repeat that PLANET came first,
                      > everything in PLANET is canon.... AND THAT INCLUDES THE EARTH TIME DATE of
                      > 3978 A.D.
                      >
                      > The sequels got the date wrong, NOT PLANET!!!
                      >
                      > Patrick, if you had any kind of respect for PLANET you'd not call anything in
                      > it "a mistake."
                      >
                      > I just wish that Franklin J. Schaffner was alive. I'm sure he too would find
                      > you MOST EGREGIOUS!
                      >
                      > -- Rory
                      >
                      > PS
                      >
                      > I'd love to see all the scenes cut from the final films, including outtakes,
                      > BUT ONLY AS EXTRAS APART FROM THE ORIGINAL FILMS!
                      >
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                      Group: potadg Message: 38757 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 4/20/2006
                      Subject: More on that timeline issue...
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                      .html.html In a message dated 4/20/2006 1:39:35 PM Central Standard Time, patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:

                      A story that even YOU seem to care about enough, since you insist [wrongly] that there's a "changed timeline" introduced in it. Would you argue so often and so loudly about a film you totally despised?


                      First off, I agree [RIGHTLY] with Rory that BATTLE is part of the "changed timeline"...

                      Second of all, Rory (and my) "argument" is that BATTLE is a PART of the "changed timeline" which is actually started with ESCAPE!!!!
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                      Group: potadg Message: 38758 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 4/20/2006
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                      .html.html In a message dated 4/20/2006 3:07:39 PM Central Standard Time, patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:

                      "I dream of my parents escaping a bloody war in the future.-- coming
                      back in time. I dream the war with the gorillas and the terrible
                      scarred descendants of man -- I remember the evil controlling orang-
                      utans of my parent's far distant world. I remember the Earth burning
                      and every living soul on its surface crumbling into hot ash."

                      Later, on page 29, you guys have Caesar telling Armando: "But
                      sometimes I dream awful things. Explosions. Bombs. Wars. Men with
                      scars who wear masks..."



                      This is all such bullsh*t!!!!

                      Not only do I agree with everything Patrick stated in his post regarding this, but there's also this to consider: NO ONE, be it ape or man, knew who or what was living in the Forbidden Zone! They had NO IDEA that there were mutated humans living in the Zone, so there is no way that ANY ape would be able to "remember" them, let alone an ape that wasn't even born (or fully developed in the womb!)
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                      Group: potadg Message: 38759 From: Ty Templeton Date: 4/20/2006
                      Subject: Re: More on that timeline issue...
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                      That is a BIG part of what we're playing with at Mr. Comics. 

                      Is the timeline a circle?  Is the timeline ALWAYS a circle?  Is there any way OFF the circle ride?  Joe and I had two main thoughts about Apes we wanted to play with, with this series: one of them was having the apes in modern America, and 2) was to play with the idea of fate, and choice in a time travel story.

                      We're heading somewhere specific, I promise.

                      Ty



                      On 4/20/06, mlccougar@... < mlccougar@...> wrote:
                      In a message dated 4/20/2006 1:39:35 PM Central Standard Time, patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:

                      A story that even YOU seem to care about enough, since you insist [wrongly] that there's a "changed timeline" introduced in it. Would you argue so often and so loudly about a film you totally despised?


                      First off, I agree [RIGHTLY] with Rory that BATTLE is part of the "changed timeline"...

                      Second of all, Rory (and my) "argument" is that BATTLE is a PART of the "changed timeline" which is actually started with ESCAPE!!!!
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                      Group: potadg Message: 38760 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 4/21/2006
                      Subject: Re: More on that timeline issue...
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                      .html.html In a message dated 4/20/2006 10:38:36 PM Central Standard Time, tybunny@... writes:

                      Is the timeline a circle? 


                      *** NO***

                      Is the timeline ALWAYS a circle?

                      *** No***

                      Is there any way OFF the circle ride?

                      ***Yes***
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                      Group: potadg Message: 38761 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/21/2006
                      Subject: Re: Legacy Review
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                      Patrick,

                       

                      I’d love to see these too.

                       

                      I would particularly like them added as bonus footage, but with the capacity to play it altogether too if you wish.

                       

                      Michael

                       

                      -----Original Message-----
                      From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of patrickmichaeltilton
                      Sent:                       Friday, 21 April 2006 4:36 AM
                      To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                      Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Legacy Review

                       


                      *** Rory, if I "had my hands" on PLANET, you'd probably be very very
                      VERY                       grateful. By that, I mean that if I had the power to force Fox
                      to dredge up all the filmed footage that had been shot for PLANET and
                      yet edited out from the "final cut" for whatever reasons, and produce
                      an "extended cut" version, you'd be the first to applaud it. Such an
                      extended cut would not replace the version we all know and love --
                      nor would it be intended to do so. But it would give us POTA fans a
                      chance to actually see those scenes that we KNOW were filmed and yet
                      have never seen (save in an occasional still image or two). I'm
                      talkin' 'bout scenes like the one where Taylor (when he first escapes
                      his cage) goes into that river at one point... like the one where
                      Zira & Lucius' wagon is stopped by the Hunt Club gorillas... like the
                      one where Zira attends to Nova and discovers she's pregnant.


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                      Group: potadg Message: 38762 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/21/2006
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                      There’s more than one version?

                       

                      YIKES!

                      I recall seeing this upon release and it was DREADFUL!  I seem to recall it was just after Freddie Mercury died (or when it was announced that he had aids) – because the line “Who wants to live forever” had quite an impact on myself and a few others in the audience.

                       

                      Michael

                       

                      -----Original Message-----
                      From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of patrickmichaeltilton
                      Sent:                       Friday, 21 April 2006 4:36 AM
                      To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                      Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Legacy Review

                       

                      If I "had my hands" on PLANET -- if I could get access to their
                      archives                       and oversee the production of such an "extended cut",
                      wouldn't you be glad that it was made? Hell, if "HIGHLANDER 2: THE
                      QUICKENING                      " can have more than one version floatin' around out there,
                      then why the hell not PLANET???


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                      Group: potadg Message: 38763 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/21/2006
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                        Group: potadg Message: 38764 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/21/2006
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                          Group: potadg Message: 38765 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/21/2006
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                            Group: potadg Message: 38766 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/21/2006
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                              .html.html Here's page one of the article I got published in a video magazine called THE PERFECT VISION in 1991.  I can't wait for Patrick to read it!  Oh boy!

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                              Group: potadg Message: 38767 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/21/2006
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                                Group: potadg Message: 38768 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/21/2006
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                                  Group: potadg Message: 38769 From: Michael Whitty Date: 4/21/2006
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                                  Hey – I never got page 1!

                                   

                                  Love what I am reading here though – very well written Rory.

                                   

                                  Michael

                                   

                                  -----Original Message-----
                                  From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Haristas@...
                                  Sent: Friday, 21 April 2006 9:24 PM
                                  To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                  Subject: [PotaDG] Page Two

                                   

                                  Here's Page Two

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                                  Group: potadg Message: 38770 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 4/21/2006
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                                   Well I got page one.  Maybe it'll turn up later.
                                   
                                  -----Original Message-----
                                  From: Michael Whitty <whitty@...>
                                  To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                  Sent: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 22:46:31 +1000
                                  Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Page Two

                                  Hey – I never got page 1!
                                   
                                  Love what I am reading here though – very well written Rory.
                                   
                                  Michael
                                   
                                  -----Original Message-----
                                  From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Haristas@...
                                  Sent: Friday, 21 April 2006 9:24 PM
                                  To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                  Subject: [PotaDG] Page Two
                                   
                                  Here's Page Two


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                                  Group: potadg Message: 38771 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 4/21/2006
                                  Subject: Re: Legacy Review
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                                  I'm back!
                                  After days of a hard bounce on my other
                                  email addie, I'm finally getting posts!  A
                                  word of advice.  If you ever have to sign
                                  back up, don't do it with the same addie
                                  in all lowercase letters.  Yahoo reads it
                                  as a separate address.  And you can only
                                  add new addresses, not delete them.
                                   
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                                  Group: potadg Message: 38772 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 4/21/2006
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                                  Did I miss much this week?
                                  I'm going to have to go back and catch up.
                                   
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                                  Group: potadg Message: 38773 From: John Brandon Kirtley Date: 4/21/2006
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                                  Dear Tim,
                                   
                                  Thanks for that.
                                  Cheers.
                                  JBK
                                  ----- Original Message -----
                                  Sent: 19 April 2006 23:05
                                  Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Apesfan

                                  Ok ...this has got to be the freakiest POTA pic I've
                                  ever seen!



                                  --- "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:

                                  > I never knew about this site! Some nice pics in
                                  > there....
                                  >
                                  > What's funny is the magazine spread from an old
                                  > Hollywood mag with pics of Roddy bring Tab Hunter
                                  > home
                                  > to meet his parents and hang out...the title of the
                                  > article is "Calling All Girls!" ...I'm sure Roddy
                                  > and
                                  > Tab would have preferred each other's company!
                                  >
                                  >
                                  > --- Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
                                  >
                                  > > I'll bump Michael over and answer this myself.
                                  > >
                                  > > Alas, there were only 2 issues of Apesfan, but
                                  > both
                                  > > were very good.
                                  > > The second one was a "Roddy" tribute as he had
                                  > just
                                  > > passed away.
                                  > > I was lucky enough to have tracked down one of the
                                  > > original writers,
                                  > > George Reis through an old obscure link that one
                                  > of
                                  > > his friends had on
                                  > > a site. By chance, George also had a few copies
                                  > left
                                  > > and sold me
                                  > > copies of both.
                                  > >
                                  > > Here is a scan of the 2nd issue (this is a Roddy
                                  > > tribute site):
                                  > > http://xmoppet.org/scans/apesfan.html"
                                  > >
                                  > > Dario
                                  > >
                                  > > ----- Original Message -----
                                  > > From: John Brandon Kirtley
                                  > > <johnbkirtley@...>
                                  > > Date: Wednesday, April 19, 2006 2:05 pm
                                  > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles
                                  > >
                                  > > > Dear Michael Whitty
                                  > > >
                                  > > > Sorry I meant " How many Issues were there of
                                  > > Apefan?
                                  > > > JBK
                                  > > >  ----- Original Message -----
                                  > > >  From: Michael
                                  > > Whitty<mailto:whitty@...>
                                  > > >  To:
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  PotaDG@yahoogroups.com<mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
                                  > >
                                  > > >  Sent: 18 April 2006 23:00
                                  > > >  Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Collectibles
                                  > > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >  Not sure how you got them on your jeans but yes
                                  > I
                                  > > know the ones -
                                  > > > beautiful colours and there's Galen, Urko and
                                  > > Zaius.
                                  > > >
                                  > > >  
                                  > > >
                                  > > >  How bad do you want them? - I think I could get
                                  > a
                                  > > set for you....
                                  > > >
                                  > > >  
                                  > > >
                                  > > >  Michael
                                  > > >
                                  > > >  
                                  > > >
                                  > > >  -----Original Message-----
                                  > > >  From:
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  PotaDG@yahoogroups.com<mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
                                  > >
                                  > > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
                                  > John
                                  > > Brandon Kirtley
                                  > > >  Sent: Wednesday, 19 April 2006 3:56 AM
                                  > > >  To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                  > > >  Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles
                                  > > >
                                  > > >  
                                  > > >
                                  > > >  Dear Tim,
                                  > > >
                                  > > >  
                                  > > >
                                  > > >  I have been looking for the very rare (by the
                                  > > looks of things)
                                  > > > small iron on transfers. I bought one on holiday
                                  > > in 75/6. They
                                  > > > were about three inches in diameter and were
                                  > great
                                  > > head paintings
                                  > > > of the TV characters. I had Galen ironed onto my
                                  > > jeans and
                                  > > > remember being in love with the artwork.
                                  > > >
                                  > > >  Never heard of them or seen them since. Has
                                  > > anyone else?
                                  > > >
                                  > > >  
                                  > > >
                                  > > >  JBK
                                  > > >
                                  > > >    ----- Original Message -----
                                  > > >
                                  > > >    From: Tim "apefan"<mailto:apefan23@...>
                                  >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >    To:
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  PotaDG@yahoogroups.com<mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
                                  > >
                                  > > >
                                  > > >    Sent: 18 April 2006 16:48
                                  > > >
                                  > > >    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Collectibles
                                  > > >
                                  > > >    
                                  > > >
                                  > > >    Yes they were listed quite a while
                                  > > ago....havent seen
                                  > > >    them since.....
                                  > > >
                                  > > >    --- Michael Whitty
                                  > > >
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  <whitty@...<mailto:whitty@...>>
                                  > > wrote:
                                  > > >
                                  > > >    > Oh I mean quite a while ago they were
                                  > listed
                                  > > on
                                  > > >    > ebay?
                                  > > >    > 
                                  > > >    > -----Original Message-----
                                  > > >    > From:
                                  > >
                                  >
                                  PotaDG@yahoogroups.com<mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
                                  > > >    > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
                                  > > >    > Of Tim "apefan"
                                  > > >    > Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 8:32 AM
                                  > > >    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                  > > >    > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Collectibles
                                  > > >    > 
                                  > > >    > They were put out when everything else
                                  > > was....'74
                                  > > >    > most
                                  > > >    > likely...
                                  > > >    >
                                  > > >    > Tim
                                  > > >    >
                                  > > >    > --- Michael Whitty <whitty@...>
                                  > > wrote:
                                  > > >    >
                                  > > >    > > Tim, are these quite old?
                                  > > >    > > 
                                  > > >    > > Michael
                                  > > >    > > 
                                  > > >    > > -----Original Message-----
                                  > > >    > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                  > > >    > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
                                  > > >    > > Of Tim "apefan"
                                  > > >    > > Sent: Tuesday, 18 April 2006 2:11 AM
                                  > > >    > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                  > > >    > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota_tv] Power
                                  > > Records
                                  > > >    > > 
                                  > > >    > > Here's a few things I was surprised to
                                  > find
                                  > > on
                                  > > >    > > ebay...I did not get them as they are so
                                  > > rare I
                                  > > >    > > couldn't stay in the bidding.......!
                                  > > >    > >
                                  > > >    > > Slip on Ape feet.....inflatable floating
                                  > > vest
                                  > > >    > ...and
                                  > > >    > > a
                                  > > >    > > radio! I thought I had a pic of the POTA
                                  > > BATHMAT!
                                  > > >    > > but
                                  > > >    > > I can't find it....apparently rare
                                  > because
                                  > > they
                                  > > >    > were
                                  > > >    > > used and got all mildewy I guess....
                                  > > >    > >
                                  > > >    > > TIm
                                  > > >    > >
                                  > > >    > >
                                  >
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                                  Welcome back!

                                   

                                  -----Original Message-----
                                  From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
                                  Sent: Saturday, 22 April 2006 5:12 AM
                                  To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                                  Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Page Two

                                   

                                  Did I miss much this week?

                                  I'm going to have to go back and catch up.


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