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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39476 |
From: Whitty |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Q for Ty and Joe..... |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39477 |
From: Whitty |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39478 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Got Cornelius? |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39479 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39480 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39481 |
From: tshaf37@aol.com |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Q for Ty and Joe..... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39482 |
From: tshaf37@aol.com |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Q for Ty and Joe..... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39483 |
From: Ty Templeton |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Q for Ty and Joe..... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39484 |
From: Ty Templeton |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Q for Ty and Joe..... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39485 |
From: Wendy Kostora |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Here's a good photo! [SEC=PERSONAL] |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39486 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: The new comic pg3 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39487 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: The new comic pg2 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39488 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: The new comic pg4 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39489 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39490 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Q for Ty and Joe..... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39491 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39492 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Cast & Crew |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39493 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: POTA rentals @ 15B |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39494 |
From: HollowedOut |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: A new member!! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39495 |
From: Greg Plonowski |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: The new comic pg4 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39496 |
From: Whitty |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Q for Ty and Joe..... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39497 |
From: Whitty |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Q for Ty and Joe..... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39498 |
From: Whitty |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Q for Ty and Joe..... |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39499 |
From: Whitty |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39500 |
From: Whitty |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: The new comic pg4 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39501 |
From: Whitty |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: The new comic pg4 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39502 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39503 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Cast & Crew |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39504 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: POTA rentals @ 15B |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39505 |
From: Whitty |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39506 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: The new comic pg4 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39507 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: The new comic pg4 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39508 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39509 |
From: Whitty |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: POTA rentals @ 15B |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39510 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Re: The new comic pg4 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39511 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Q for Ty and Joe..... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39512 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Re: A new member!! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39513 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Re: POTA rentals @ 15B |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39514 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Re: POTA rentals @ 15B |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39515 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Re: POTA rentals @ 15B |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39516 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Re: POTA rentals @ 15B |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39517 |
From: Dario Sciola |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Re: The new comic pg4 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39518 |
From: HollowedOut |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Small favor for a small person.... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39519 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Small favor for a small person.... |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39520 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39521 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39522 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Cast & Crew |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39523 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Is This The Beatles? |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39524 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Cast & Crew |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39525 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Cast & Crew |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39526 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39527 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: OT: Buckaroo Banzai! . . . It's the latest Issue |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39528 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Re: POTA rentals @ 15B |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39529 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Re: The new comic pg4 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39530 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: The new comic pg4 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39531 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Kong |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39532 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Got Cornelius? |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39533 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Got Cornelius? |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39534 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39535 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: OT: Fox truly a Marvel |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39536 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39537 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Cast & Crew |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39538 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: The new comic pg4 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39539 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Kong |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39540 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39541 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39542 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39543 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Cast & Crew |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39544 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Kong |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39545 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39546 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Cast & Crew |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39547 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: The new comic pg4 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39548 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39549 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39550 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39551 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39552 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Is there a soul in there |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39553 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Cast & Crew |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39554 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39555 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Conquest DVD cover |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39556 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39558 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: FW: [PotaDiscussionGroupphotos2] New file uploaded to PotaDiscu |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39559 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39560 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDiscussionGroupphotos2 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39561 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 6/4/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Cast & Crew |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39562 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 6/4/2006 |
| Subject: Re: The new comic pg4 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39563 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 6/4/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39564 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 6/4/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39565 |
From: majorhendricks |
Date: 6/4/2006 |
| Subject: How did the Apes get so smart after CONQUEST? |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39566 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 6/4/2006 |
| Subject: Re: How did the Apes get so smart after CONQUEST? |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39567 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 6/4/2006 |
| Subject: Re: How did the Apes get so smart after CONQUEST? |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39568 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 6/4/2006 |
| Subject: Re: How did the Apes get so smart after CONQUEST? |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39569 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 6/4/2006 |
| Subject: Re: How did the Apes get so smart after CONQUEST? |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39570 |
From: tshaf37@aol.com |
Date: 6/4/2006 |
| Subject: Re: How did the Apes get so smart after CONQUEST? |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39571 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 6/4/2006 |
| Subject: Re: How did the Apes get so smart after CONQUEST? |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39572 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 6/4/2006 |
| Subject: Re: How did the Apes get so smart after CONQUEST? |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39573 |
From: atragon1@aol.com |
Date: 6/4/2006 |
| Subject: Re: How did the Apes get so smart after CONQUEST? |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39574 |
From: Dario Sciola |
Date: 6/5/2006 |
| Subject: Re: How did the Apes get so smart after CONQUEST? |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39575 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 6/5/2006 |
| Subject: Re: How did the Apes get so smart after CONQUEST? |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39576 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 6/5/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Cast & Crew |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39476 |
From: Whitty |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Q for Ty and Joe..... |
.htmlFellas - if Hollywood wanted to do a movie of one of your POTA stories, who
would you want to direct and star? Michael
--------- Original Message -------- From:
"Whitty" <whitty@...> To: "PotaDG@yahoogroups.com"
<PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Q for Ty and Joe..... Date:
02/06/06 01:50
--------- Original Message -------- From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com To: "PotaDG@yahoogroups.com"
<PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] EW names best of
nearly unwatchable sequels Date: 02/06/06 01:06
In a message dated 5/31/2006 3:58:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
ntfoster@... writes:
And yes bring on Peter Jackson and give us a 3
hours plus Apes epic!
NOOOooo!!!! I used to want Jackson. But after seeing King
Long
I realized he's a hack! He even steals from himself, recycling
bits
of LOTR. He would ruin POTA. In fact I can't think of a
single
director who's work I really respect anymore. Not one.
Even
Gilliam, who I had suggested, has mad some real
clinkers.
|
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39477 |
From: Whitty |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
.htmlAt least what Gilliam does will always be interesting! Michael
--------- Original Message -------- From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com To: "PotaDG@yahoogroups.com"
<PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] EW names best of
nearly unwatchable sequels Date: 02/06/06 01:06
In a message dated 5/31/2006 3:58:00 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
ntfoster@... writes:
And yes bring on Peter Jackson and give us a 3
hours plus Apes epic!
NOOOooo!!!! I used to want Jackson. But after seeing King
Long
I realized he's a hack! He even steals from himself, recycling
bits
of LOTR. He would ruin POTA. In fact I can't think of a
single
director who's work I really respect anymore. Not one.
Even
Gilliam, who I had suggested, has mad some real clinkers.
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|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39478 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Got Cornelius? |
.html
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Message
-- Me too!
;-)
Neil
I prefer females to Neil!
--------- Original Message -------- From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com To: "PotaDG@yahoogroups.com"
<PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Got
Cornelius? Date: 01/06/06 19:56
-- If I
remember rightly, one of the Marvel magazines has an article on both of them
where they also had photos of them wearing costumes that they had made
themselves and the female one looked especially good.
Neil
Man, isn't it incredible how dead-on
accurate Bill and
Paula looked as Roddy-Cornelius and Kim-Zira?
The
makers of the POTA tv show should've had Bill Blake do
Roddy's
stand-in stuff -- and they should've had Paula
do a character (not
Zira, of course), since she wore
the chimpette makeups a whole lot
better than Joanna
Barnes ("Carsia") or Jacqueline Scott ("Kira")
or
Beverly Garland ("Wanda"). Not that the latter weren't
fine
actresses, but the makeups on 'em weren't as
top-notch as were Zira's
in the 1st film, which Paula
seemed to have replicated
perfectly.
Patrick
--- "Tim "apefan""
<apefan23@...> wrote:
> Not sure...here they are
again.....I think I sent it
> before as some painting of Zira
somewhere was based
> on the photo......
> Tim
>
> TZer0@... wrote: In
a message dated
> 5/28/2006 4:45:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> apefan23@... writes:
> Yep...got "Zira's" pic
too which I think I've
> posted before....
>
>
> Where is it
posted?
>
>
>
>
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|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39479 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
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Message
-- Well that is what I am hoping for in any
sequel.
Neil
There wasn't a dead
end.
Actually I think a sequel
would be far superior to
it, because it would be
more like the book being
in a more modern setting.
<.html
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|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39480 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
.html
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Message
-- I agree, the
guy has such great vision. I really wish he could have got his Don Quixote
movie made but it seems like it was cursed from the start, hopefully one day he
will re-visit it (after he does the next Planet of the Apes
movie!).
Neil
At least what Gilliam does will always
be
interesting!
<.html
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|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39481 |
From: tshaf37@aol.com |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Q for Ty and Joe..... |
.html
.html
In a message dated 6/1/2006 1:59:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
whitty@... writes:
Fellas -
if Hollywood wanted to do a movie of one of your POTA stories, who would you
want to direct and star?
Michael
James Cameron as Director
Vin Diesel as the lead astronaut
<.html
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|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39482 |
From: tshaf37@aol.com |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Q for Ty and Joe..... |
.html
.html
In a message dated 6/1/2006 6:57:10 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
tshaf37@... writes:
Fellas
- if Hollywood wanted to do a movie of one of your POTA stories, who would
you want to direct and star?
Michael
James Cameron as Director
Vin Diesel as the lead
astronaut
Oh and by the way if they would do a sequel, I should play
Brent's role then. <.html
|
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39483 |
From: Ty Templeton |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Q for Ty and Joe..... |
.htmlor "phenomenal"...should I ever learn to spell. TY
On 6/1/06, Ty Templeton <tybunny@...
> wrote:
Well, leaving aside the first choice, which would be me directing, and running the show (and Joe doing it, should I be unable to continue), I'd probably want...
hmm.....that is a tough question.
It's far more about the script than the director, in my opinion, and no director guarantees you a good script. If the script was excellent, and untouchable, I'd probably want Tim Burton, whose visual
and emotional directing in the recent POTA film was wonderful.
It was his silly, puerile, unwatchable script (and a fairly unwatchable pair of lead actors in Marky Mark and Helena Bonham Carter) that destroyed the recent "remake". But in terms of visuals, pacing
and sets, it was phenominal!
But I imagine Burton is a curse word around here, so I'll go with Scorcese or Bob Zemekis, who have yet to make a film I was disappointed in. (Speilberg, by comparison, was partly reponsible for AI, and
entirely reponsible for 1941 and the Colour Purple, which were not good at all. However, the man who made Indiana Jones and Jurassic Park could make a hell of an Apes Movie, no?)
Ty
On 6/1/06,
tshaf37@... <tshaf37@...> wrote:
In a message dated 6/1/2006 6:57:10 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
tshaf37@... writes:
Fellas
- if Hollywood wanted to do a movie of one of your POTA stories, who would
you want to direct and star?
Michael
James Cameron as Director
Vin Diesel as the lead
astronaut
Oh and by the way if they would do a sequel, I should play
Brent's role then.
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Well, leaving aside the first choice, which would be me directing, and running the show (and Joe doing it, should I be unable to continue), I'd probably want...
hmm.....that is a tough question.
It's far more about the script than the director, in my opinion, and no director guarantees you a good script. If the script was excellent, and untouchable, I'd probably want Tim Burton, whose visual
and emotional directing in the recent POTA film was wonderful.
It was his silly, puerile, unwatchable script (and a fairly unwatchable pair of lead actors in Marky Mark and Helena Bonham Carter) that destroyed the recent "remake". But in terms of visuals, pacing
and sets, it was phenominal!
But I imagine Burton is a curse word around here, so I'll go with Scorcese or Bob Zemekis, who have yet to make a film I was disappointed in. (Speilberg, by comparison, was partly reponsible for AI, and
entirely reponsible for 1941 and the Colour Purple, which were not good at all. However, the man who made Indiana Jones and Jurassic Park could make a hell of an Apes Movie, no?)
Ty On 6/1/06,
tshaf37@... <tshaf37@...> wrote:
In a message dated 6/1/2006 6:57:10 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
tshaf37@... writes:
Fellas
- if Hollywood wanted to do a movie of one of your POTA stories, who would
you want to direct and star?
Michael
James Cameron as Director
Vin Diesel as the lead
astronaut
Oh and by the way if they would do a sequel, I should play
Brent's role then.
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Date: 6/1/2006 |
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And the next
one:
Neil
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Date: 6/1/2006 |
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Hey Mike here's
that next page that you wanted:
Neil
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Date: 6/1/2006 |
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Next, (didn't get
much else done as this week has been taken up with X-rays, blood tests etc. and
my yearly check up at the oncology dept. at the hospital):
Neil
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Date: 6/1/2006 |
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In a message dated 6/1/06 1:05:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, TZer0@... writes:
NOOOooo!!!! I used to want Jackson. But after seeing King Long
I realized he's a hack!
Yeah, KING KONG proved Jackson is seriously flawed.
I've watched KK on DVD recently... it just gets worse the more often you see it.
-- Rory
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Date: 6/1/2006 |
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In a message dated 6/1/2006 4:34:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
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I'd
probably want Tim Burton
WTF???? <.html
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In a message dated 6/1/2006 6:30:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
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I've
watched KK on DVD recently... it just gets worse the more often you see
it.
LOL!!! . . . Yeah, the theatrical release should have been the
extended
director's cut. But he was on a roll with LOTRs, and no one would
stand
up to him. When studios won't stand up to directors, King Kong is
what
you get. When directors won't stand up to studios, POTA2K1 is what
you get. Some times the magic happens . . . sometimes it
doesn't.
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I might make Burton Art Director, if he'd take the job.
For director? . . . Well most of the good ones are dead.
But after weeding out the dead guys, I'm down to Milos Forman.
But if I didn't have a big budget? I'd have to go with Clint
Eastwood.
Casting the male lead is tough. As I said, it's like casting
Moses.
Someone had a suggestion I agreed with, but I can't remember who
that was. Female lead? Helena Bonham-Carter wasn't bad, but
her
eyes are too far apart, and I think Felicity Kendal would be better.
I
still think Selma Hayek is perfect for Nova though. Wasn't she
on
that poster mock-up? But would she take a role with no lines?
As for Zaius? Why not Ian McKellen? He's in everything
else.
Cornelius? I still think Johnny Depp could do it, but wouldn't
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From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: POTA rentals @ 15B |
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You'll be happy to know this group is listed ahead of the "other"
group on imbd-pro
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Much interesting info on POTA . . .
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From: HollowedOut |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: A new member!! |
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I've been "off" the list now for about 7 months... and what happened Tuesday was the reason!!! Clarissa Mikulich Brown
Born (Cesarean): 5/30/2006 @ 1301 2 lbs. 11 ounces 11 3/4 inches
Mom and baby are doing well... my wife will be released from the hospital on Saturday and Clarissa will be in until mid-July. She's about two months early so she'll have some fattening up to do!!
I'm looking foreword to having her start with some POTA comics and coloring books before bed and the cartoons, movies and TV series before long!! She'll already have all the Mego apes and sets
(but if she does play with them...hmmmmmmm), new toys, a room full of apes stuff... wait a minute that's MY STUFF!!! Oh well!!
My GOD this is the GREATEST thing in my life!!! It'll be good to get
back in the discussions again!! -Chris Do You Yahoo!?
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From: Greg Plonowski |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: The new comic pg4 |
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Very nice, Neil. Hmm. page 1 is suspiciously missing.
The vehicle reminds me of the car in the Logan's Run TV series. That's a positive comment, by the way, as I liked that series, although I'm sure someone will pipe up and say it was crap. Me, I'm
hoping the Bryan Singer movie remake will at least get us a release of the TV series on DVD.
Is this the long-awaited next part of Going Home (which I thought you and Mike had put aside) or something completely new? Greg
Neil T Foster <ntfoster@...>
wrote:
Next, (didn't get much else done as this week has been taken up with X-rays, blood tests etc. and my yearly check up at
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From: Whitty |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Q for Ty and Joe..... |
.htmlAn action movie then? :)
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Joe..... Date: 02/06/06 06:56
In a message dated 6/1/2006 1:59:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
whitty@... writes:
Fellas - if Hollywood wanted to do a movie of one of
your POTA stories, who would you want to direct and
star?
Michael
James Cameron as Director
Vin Diesel as the lead astronaut
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Joe..... Date: 02/06/06 06:56
In a message dated 6/1/2006 1:59:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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Fellas - if Hollywood wanted to do a movie of one of
your POTA stories, who would you want to direct and
star?
Michael
James Cameron as Director
Vin Diesel as the lead astronaut
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Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Q for Ty and Joe..... |
.htmlTo be fair, I must agree that the real problem was the script. AND
the look of Ari (which WAS Burton's fault). By the way Ty, many of us
were quite excited about having Burton on the team but the they do call it
"BURTON'S Planet of the Apes".... :) I very much like his other
stuff..... MichaelTo be fair, I must agree that the real problem was
the script. AND the look of Ari (which WAS Burton's fault). By
the way Ty, many of us were quite excited about having Burton on the team
but the they do call it "BURTON'S Planet of the Apes".... :) I
very much like his other stuff..... Michael
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In a message dated 6/1/2006 4:34:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
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I'd probably want Tim Burton
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Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
.htmlUnlike POTA2001, some people actually LIKED Jackson's King
Kong. Michael
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nearly unwatchable sequels Date: 02/06/06 19:46
In a message dated 6/1/2006 6:30:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
Haristas@... writes:
I've watched KK on DVD recently... it just gets worse
the more often you see it.
LOL!!! . . . Yeah, the theatrical release should have been the
extended
director's cut. But he was on a roll with LOTRs, and no one would
stand
up to him. When studios won't stand up to directors, King Kong is
what
you get. When directors won't stand up to studios, POTA2K1 is
what
you get. Some times the magic happens . . . sometimes it
doesn't.
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From: Whitty |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: The new comic pg4 |
.htmlHey mate - hope the results are all good (and that nobody accuses you of
"faking it" to get attention!). Michael
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<PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [PotaDG] The new comic
pg4 Date: 02/06/06 16:49
Next, (didn't
get much else done as this week has been taken up with X-rays, blood tests
etc. and my yearly check up at the oncology dept. at the
hospital):
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Message: 39501 |
From: Whitty |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: The new comic pg4 |
.htmlUmmm.....Neil, you dickhead! You weren't supposed to send it to the
group! And hey - how many legs should a lizard have?!?!?
:) Michael
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<PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] The new comic
pg4 Date: 02/06/06 21:30
Very nice, Neil. Hmm. page 1 is suspiciously missing.
The vehicle reminds me of the car in the Logan's Run TV series. That's
a positive comment, by the way, as I liked that series, although I'm sure
someone will pipe up and say it was crap. Me, I'm hoping the Bryan Singer
movie remake will at least get us a release of the TV series on DVD.
Is this the long-awaited next part of Going Home (which I thought you
and Mike had put aside) or something completely new?
Greg
Neil T Foster <ntfoster@...>
wrote:
Next, (didn't
get much else done as this week has been taken up with X-rays, blood tests
etc. and my yearly check up at the oncology dept. at the
hospital):
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From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
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In a message dated 6/1/2006 9:10:22 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:
Unlike POTA2001, some people actually LIKED Jackson's King Kong.
I liked the new King Kong A LOT!
Even bought it the day it was released on DVD... <.html
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From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
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-- Well I for one would
hate them to do a new movie using the same old characters, I mean what would be
the point of that? Using Zaius, Zira & Cornelius etc. would just be a
remake/re-imagining/re-hash of Planet.
What I would like to see
is totally new and original characters and have any new movie(s) set in the time
period between the end of Battle and the start of Planet. There's hundreds of
years to play with and any number of different directions any new story could
take. Sure I'd want them to have make-ups based on the original look and clothes
that resemble the original costumes (though they wouldn't need to be exactly the
same.)
But we all know we won't
get a new movie. Fox knows that there is only a tiny hardcore fan base for POTA
and the chances of attracting a new large loyal following to rival something
like Star Wars is a dream that isn't going to happen, and most of the fans left
probably wouldn't want to embrace anything radically new so why bother?
Have a look at this
thread for instance - the same old thing we have discussed many times before!
The same seems to be true for most of these Apes groups as well, even over on
the POTA Group (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/)
one of the current threads is about whether the Lawgiver is seen as a God or a
Moses like figure. A discussion we and they have had many, many times before! It
wouldn't be so bad if these discussions involved a host of new people but for
the most it is the same people going over the same things again and again. What
we need is originality but unfortunately (with a few very notable exceptions
here and there) this seems to be something lacking with
'Apes'
Neil
I still think Selma
Hayek is perfect for Nova though. Wasn't she on
that poster mock-up? But would she take a role with no lines?
As for Zaius? Why not Ian McKellen? He's in everything
else.
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From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: POTA rentals @ 15B |
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-- What I would really be
happy with is if there was never a 'split' in the first place, there was never
any need for it. Now we have a splintered fan base whereas we could have kept
going as one 'family' with more people combining their creative energies to get
things done instead of trying to compete with each other all the bloody
time.
Neil
You'll be happy to know this group is listed ahead of the "other"
group on imbd-pro
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USA
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From: Whitty |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
.htmlI bought alot of KK on DVD too - can't wait for the obligatory Xmas release
6 hour version! Michael
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<PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: EW names best of
nearly unwatchable sequels Date: 02/06/06 23:20 In a message dated 6/1/2006 9:10:22 PM Central Standard Time,
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Unlike POTA2001, some people
actually LIKED Jackson's King Kong.
I liked the new King
Kong A LOT!
Even bought it the day it was released on
DVD...
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From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: The new comic pg4 |
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-- Sorry Greg but
I thought it was crap! (probably because I like the movie so much)
;-)
This is actually
something that I sent by error! Ooops, ah well too late now. And no it's not a
continuation of Going Home but something totally new and original (and set in
Australia for some reason!)
Neil
Very nice, Neil. Hmm. page 1 is suspiciously missing.
The vehicle reminds me of the car in the Logan's Run TV series. That's a
positive comment, by the way, as I liked that series, although I'm sure
someone will pipe up and say it was crap. Me, I'm hoping the Bryan Singer
movie remake will at least get us a release of the TV series on DVD.
Is this the long-awaited next part of Going Home (which I thought you and
Mike had put aside) or something completely new?
Greg
Neil T Foster <ntfoster@...>
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get much else done as this week has been taken up with X-rays, blood tests
etc. and my yearly check up at the oncology dept. at the
hospital): <.html
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From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: The new comic pg4 |
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-- Ummm, yeah I
realise that, sorry. But like I said to Greg too late now! Also, I believe
mutant lizards can have as many legs as they like can't they? Just watch out if
they start talking to you though!
Neil
Ummm.....Neil, you dickhead! You weren't
supposed to send it to the group!
And hey - how many legs should a
lizard have?!?!?
:)
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From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
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-- I liked it too
and my 2 youngest boys who saw it with me absolutely loved it. No chance of
getting them to watch the original now (unless it maybe gets colourised,
shudder)
Neil
I liked
the new King Kong A LOT!
Even bought it the
day it was released on DVD... <.html
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Message: 39509 |
From: Whitty |
Date: 6/1/2006 |
| Subject: Re: POTA rentals @ 15B |
.htmlAgreed. As a force of 1 many things can be achieved. The way
things are, it's just one team trying to prove they are superior to another
and even lying about things (eg the Battle release that would have taken
months for FOX to prepare and some are claiming it was a direct result of a
poll with 100 names on it that took 2 weeks!). It's
pathetic. And I for one have about had it with POTA. I didn't
even get all the Sideshow figures. POTA really has been beaten around
and in these groups we have pretty much discussed it all - amazing we still
come up with new stuff! Michael
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15B Date: 03/06/06 00:13
-- What I would
really be happy with is if there was never a 'split' in the first place,
there was never any need for it. Now we have a splintered fan base whereas
we could have kept going as one 'family' with more people combining their
creative energies to get things done instead of trying to compete with each
other all the bloody time.
Neil
You'll be happy to know this group is listed ahead of the
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USA
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Theatrical Rentals
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than after . . .
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Message: 39510 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Re: The new comic pg4 |
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-- Yep thanks,
totally clear. In remission for over 7 years now. Actually still got one more
check up at the local hospital in August (this one was at the hospital
where I had my radiation treatment.)
Neil
Hey mate - hope the results are all good (and that
nobody accuses you of "faking it" to get attention!).
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Message: 39511 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Q for Ty and Joe..... |
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-- Hey there's an
echo on the group. ;-)
Neil
To be fair, I must agree that the real problem
was the script.
AND the look of Ari (which WAS Burton's
fault).
By the way Ty, many of us were quite excited about having
Burton on the team but the they do call it "BURTON'S Planet of the
Apes".... :)
I very much like his other
stuff.....
MichaelTo be fair, I must agree that the real problem was
the script.
AND the look of Ari (which WAS Burton's fault).
By
the way Ty, many of us were quite excited about having Burton on the team but
the they do call it "BURTON'S Planet of the Apes".... :)
I very
much like his other stuff.....
Michael <.html
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Message: 39512 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Re: A new member!! |
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-- Great news
Chris and great to have you back, though knowing what babies are like I don't
think you will have that much time for discussions, sleep, sanity, etc. etc.
:-)
Neil
I've been "off" the list now for about 7 months... and what
happened Tuesday was the reason!!!
Clarissa Mikulich Brown
Born (Cesarean): 5/30/2006 @ 1301
2 lbs. 11 ounces
11 3/4 inches
Mom and baby are doing well... my wife will be released from
the hospital on Saturday and Clarissa will be in until mid-July. She's
about two months early so she'll have some fattening up to do!!
I'm looking foreword to having her start with some POTA comics and
coloring books before bed and the cartoons, movies and TV series before
long!! She'll already have all the Mego apes and sets (but if she does play
with them...hmmmmmmm), new toys, a room full of apes stuff... wait a minute
that's MY STUFF!!! Oh well!!
My GOD this is the GREATEST thing in my life!!! It'll be good to get back
in the discussions again!!
-Chris
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Message: 39513 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Re: POTA rentals @ 15B |
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In a message dated 6/1/2006 11:13:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
ntfoster@... writes:
we
could have kept going as one 'family' with more people combining their
creative energies to get things done instead of trying to compete with each
other all the bloody time.
Isn't bloody a curse word on the other group?
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39514 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Re: POTA rentals @ 15B |
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-- Well we're all adults
over here, and besides even my Dad stopped smacking me for saying bloody back in
the bloody seventies! ;-)
Neil
In a message dated 6/1/2006 11:13:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
ntfoster@... writes:
we could have kept going
as one 'family' with more people combining their creative energies to get
things done instead of trying to compete with each other all the bloody
time.
Isn't bloody a curse word on the other group? <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39515 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Re: POTA rentals @ 15B |
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Message
T
Have you been “spoken to”
again?!?!
Michael
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Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil
T Foster
Sent: Friday, 2 June 2006 5:42 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] POTA rentals
@ 15B
-- Well we're all adults over here, and besides even my Dad
stopped smacking me for saying bloody back in the bloody seventies! ;-)
Neil
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Friday, 2 June 2006 5:13 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] POTA rentals
@ 15B
In a message dated 6/1/2006 11:13:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
ntfoster@... writes:
we could have kept going as one 'family' with more people combining
their creative energies to get things done instead of trying to compete with
each other all the bloody time.
Isn't
bloody a curse word on the other group?
--
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39516 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Re: POTA rentals @ 15B |
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You said it brother....I'm with you. Tim Neil T Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote:
Message
-- What I would really be happy with is if there was never a 'split' in the first place, there was never any need for it. Now we have a splintered fan base whereas we could have kept going
as one 'family' with more people combining their creative energies to get things done instead of trying to compete with each other all the bloody time.
Neil
You'll be happy to know this group is listed ahead of the "other" group on imbd-pro
&
Much interesting info on POTA . .
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39517 |
From: Dario Sciola |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Re: The new comic pg4 |
.htmlWhew.
When I can across the first email which mentioned 'oncology', I
thought that this was some new development as it was the first I heard
of it. I feel a lot better now seeing that this was years ago. But
then you must be feeling a lot better too, eh.
As for some of the other things mentioned lately:
I also noticed that lately the rehashing of the same themes in the
POTA DGs has hit another low. Their is now a "What did Cornelius know
and when did he know it" thread going on, only after a few months of
a "What did Zaius know and when did he know it". Can a "What did Zira
know and when did she know it" thread be far behind? Hmmm, what DID
she ... Oh, never mind.
original KK vs. Jackson KK: original wins hands down. Jackson had some
nice touches, but these were offset by other elements that just didn't
belong, the infamous ice skating in Central Park being the most out of
place.
Yet another POTA revitalization: I just don't think it will happen in
the next 10 - 20 years. There is no way that Fox can try to jump start
the franchise again so soon after the 2001 failure. The sad part is
that even if they now had a stellar script and yet again reimagined
how it should look, there is just no way today's finicky audience is
going to shell out big bucks again. No, the memory of 2001 is going to
have to fade completely before any producer is going to risk millions.
The sadest part of the 2001 fiasco is that it just did not fail as a
movie, it took a hit for the whole franchise.
Burton: Yes he can be a brilliant director, but POTA was not his
shinning moment. I lay most of the blame on the script, but even as
director he should not have let himself to be put into a situation in
which he was forced to film with such a mediocre script to begin with.
Dario
----- Original Message -----
From: Neil T Foster <ntfoster@...>
Date: Friday, June 2, 2006 0:21 am
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] The new comic pg4
> -- Yep thanks, totally clear. In remission for over 7 years now.
> Actually still got one more check up at the local hospital in August
> (this one was at the hospital where I had my radiation treatment.)
>
> Neil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Whitty
> Sent: Friday, 2 June 2006 12:16 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] The new comic pg4
>
>
> Hey mate - hope the results are all good (and that nobody accuses
> you of
> "faking it" to get attention!).
>
>
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Message: 39518 |
From: HollowedOut |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Small favor for a small person.... |
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I'm trying to get everyone I know to donate blood to Clarissa... she will need at least two to three transfusions is what the doctors are guessing for the long run... so if anyone could or would like to it would
be going to: Clarissa Mikulich Brown @ Hoag Hosptial NICU. Thanks everyone!!! -Chris
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39519 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Small favor for a small person.... |
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Hey Chris – is everything all right?
I would like to give blood but from Australia
it could be somewhat difficult!
My blood type is AB Neg.
What blood type do you need?
Michael
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of HollowedOut
Sent: Saturday, 3 June 2006 7:50
AM
To: 70's TOYS; Sonny; Karen
Stanton; Victor; Z-Girl; Mego List; Lou Melograna; Peggy Moyer; Mike Murphy;
Nguyet; POTA group; Scott; Keene Silfer; Kristen Fahs; Garik Garza; Grayskull
List; Haunted Mansion; Larry; R. Lee; Amy McDowell; Tim Brown; Rick Campos;
James Carey; Morgan Celaya; Dan; Don; 'brian@...'; 'Irma';
anthony79d; 'Anthony Daraby'; Pat's Home; jjl@...; James
Leon; sasonntag@...; Patrick Wheelock; 'Joe Williams'
Subject: [PotaDG] Small favor for
a small person....
I'm trying to get
everyone I know to donate blood to Clarissa... she will need at least two to
three transfusions is what the doctors are guessing for the long run... so if
anyone could or would like to it would be going to:
Clarissa Mikulich Brown @
Hoag Hosptial NICU.
-Chris
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39520 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
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In a message dated 6/1/06 10:10:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:
Unlike POTA2001, some people actually LIKED Jackson's King Kong.
Michael
Like you?
Hey, what's the story with the APES discs in Aussie Land? Are the new transfers in PAL or what?!!!
-- Rory<.html
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Message: 39521 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
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In a message dated 6/1/06 11:18:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mlccougar@... writes:
In a message dated 6/1/2006 9:10:22 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:
Unlike POTA2001, some people actually LIKED Jackson's King Kong.
I liked the new King Kong A LOT!
Even bought it the day it was released on DVD...
I rented the DVD to make myself a copy. Why? I have no idea. Watching it, I simply can't sit through most of it. I guess I just wanted it for the record, but as fas as I'm concerned
it's no better than the '76 remake, and often more over-the-top.
A waste.
-- Rory<.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39522 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Cast & Crew |
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In a message dated 6/2/06 12:11:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:
What I would like to see is totally new and original characters and have any new movie(s) set in the time
period between the end of Battle and the start of Planet. There's hundreds of years to play with...
Yeah, and TWO different timelines!
-- Rory <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39523 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Is This The Beatles? |
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I was kinda hoping to show this to the
group soon anyway because, after seeing the finale of LOST, I was concerned
people might “recognise” the suits and think we had borrowed the
idea!
Actually, page 1 and 2 (and possibly page
3!) are missing! There’s a
pre-story for each comic that explains a bit of background and how we get to a scene
in Sydney
City
where apes are wandering around in a seemingly uninhabited city.
The last 2 or 3 pages will also involve another
story that will become understood as the stories progress.
This comic is, for the record, NOT a
PLANET OF THE APES prequel OR sequel.
However, I hope to write it so that it would not be too difficult to
place it on a timeline around 1000 years before PLANET. So it COULD be used as a PLANET
prequel. But in a dimension where
Beneath, Escape, Conquest and Battle
(and the TV Show and the cartoon series) do not exist.
SO – as Cougar and Rory would
appreciate, the boundaries of what may possibly follow are set by PLANET only!
Anyway, by sidestepping the PLANET name,
we can go ahead and publish this one ourselves.
Maybe we’ll “pull a Klaatu” and promote it as “IS THIS THE PLANET
OF THE APES?”. J Anyone know
what I’m referring to here (hint: “Calling
Occupants”).
Michael
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil
T Foster
Sent: Friday, 2 June 2006 2:17 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] The new
comic pg4
-- Sorry Greg but I thought it was
crap! (probably because I like the movie so much) ;-)
This is actually something that I
sent by error! Ooops, ah well too late now. And no it's not a continuation of
Going Home but something totally new and original (and set in Australia for
some reason!)
Neil
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg
Plonowski
Sent: Friday, 2 June 2006 11:29 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] The new
comic pg4
Very nice, Neil. Hmm.
page 1 is suspiciously missing.
The vehicle reminds me of
the car in the Logan's Run TV series. That's a positive comment, by the way, as
I liked that series, although I'm sure someone will pipe up and say it was
crap. Me, I'm hoping the Bryan Singer movie remake will at least get us a
release of the TV series on DVD.
Is this the long-awaited
next part of Going Home (which I thought you and Mike had put aside) or
something completely new?
Greg
Neil T Foster
<ntfoster@...> wrote:
Next, (didn't get much else done
as this week has been taken up with X-rays, blood tests etc. and my yearly
check up at the oncology dept. at the hospital):
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Message: 39524 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Cast & Crew |
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Or
just in an environment that respects PLANET but ignores the sequels.....
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Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Saturday, 3 June 2006 8:58
AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Cast &
Crew
In a message dated 6/2/06 12:11:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
ntfoster@... writes:
What I would like to see is totally new and
original characters and have any new movie(s) set in the time period between
the end of Battle and the start of Planet. There's hundreds of years to play
with...
Yeah, and TWO different timelines!
-- Rory
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39525 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Cast & Crew |
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In a message dated 6/2/2006 7:33:09 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:
Or just in an environment that respects PLANET but ignores the sequels.....
That wouldn't be terribly unreasonable.... It certainly would be better than what they had in ' 01...<.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39526 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
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I
didn’t HATE it but it had some flaws!
I bought it – and I watch it. But I prefer the original.
The new one at least assures a generation
will not say “huh?” when you say “KING KONG”!
We already have a generation of kids who
think the Beatles are insects.
Michael
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Saturday, 3 June 2006 8:54
AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: EW names
best of nearly unwatchable sequels
In a message dated 6/1/06 10:10:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:
Unlike POTA2001, some people actually LIKED Jackson's King
Kong.
Michael
Like you?
Hey, what's the story with the APES discs in Aussie Land? Are the new
transfers in PAL or what?!!!
-- Rory
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39527 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: OT: Buckaroo Banzai! . . . It's the latest Issue |
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Only 20 years since the last comic. Sound familiar?
BUCKAROO BANZAI: RETURN OF THE SCREW #1
Writer: Joe Gentile (from a story by Mac Rauch)
Artists: Stephen Thompson
(pencils)/Keith Williams (inks)
Publisher: Moonstone Books
Reviewer: Prof.
ChallengerThanks to cooperation from the Banzai Institution for
Biomedical Engineering and Strategic Information, Buckaroo Banzai and the Hong
Kong Cavaliers finally return to comics graced by a movie-poster-worthy Matt
Haley cover. It's long been known that Buckaroo was very pleased with the job
that Mac Rauch and W.D. Richter, the writer and director respectively, did in
telling the film story of his adventure across the eighth dimension. But I've
often wondered whether the fact that more adventures of Buckaroo and the
Cavaliers never materialized was really due to movie company head-up-the-ass
idiocy or a need for Buckaroo to disappear out of the media limelight. The only
reason I can think of why Buckaroo would need to do this would be that the evil
Hanoi Xan and the World Crime League was on the verge of a massive dastardly
plan of action. Now that this first issue has been published, it is safe to
assume that the planet is safe once again, but if this is the adventure that
caused Buckaroo to disappear from public view for 20 years, then it is also safe
to assume that the danger we were all oblivious to was worse than we can
imagine. I'm talking about a plot that involves both those alien scum, the
Lectroids, Dr. Lizardo, and Hanoi Xan working together. And Moonstone
comics has the honor of presenting this tale that the faint-hearted should not
read. It is a tale that should frighten anyone when they find out just how close
the world came to being conquered by Xan and the Lectroids. However, smile
because Buckaroo Banzai was on the case when the adventure he's calling "The
Return of the Screw" occurred. You know, if the Banzai Institute had
really tried to get this adventure told through another big budget movie, no
studio in Hollywood would have turned it down. But the Institute smartly
realized that the type of audience that would really appreciate the efforts of
Buckaroo and the Cavaliers would be those inclined to buy quality comic books.
Writer Joe Gentile does a very fine job capturing the narrative style of the old
BUCKAROO BANZAI: ACROSS THE EIGHTH DIMENSION movie. When Buckaroo speaks, I can
hear the actor, Peter Weller (hand-picked by Buckaroo to portray him), deliver
the lines. That's a testament to good dialogue work by Gentile working from a
story treatment provided to him by Mac Rauch. I noticed that the date is
deliberately left nebulous and I think that's intentional so as to not cause
panic among the public but also to let the story be read as a timeless adventure
as well. We do know that some time has passed between the events of the
movie and the current story, however, because there are a couple of new
additions to the Cavaliers that have never been seen before like "Red River
Daddy." As well, we begin with the internal conflict Buckaroo is struggling with
because of Penny's murder after the events of the movie and before the events of
this comic. His confidence is shaken and this puts Buckaroo in a position he's
never been in before just as his greatest challenge is about to be put to him.
Xan almost seems able to touch Buckaroo's mind and taunt him with his failure.
On the art, overall the work is clean and tells the story well. There
are design elements to the art that I'm not a particular fan of, such as the
excessive blank margin areas. I can tell it was a deliberate design choice, but
at times it looked more like wasted space that could've been used for larger
panels or more detail work. I've read an interview where, I believe, Marv
Wolfman was asked about working with George Perez when George was starting out.
He said, and I'm paraphrasing, that the drawing wasn't quite there yet but the
storytelling was outstanding. He felt that storytelling is the harder aspect to
learn and that if the storytelling ability is already there that the drawing
will come with experience. That's similar to how I felt with Scott Thompson's
work on this comic. The storytelling is there, but the drawing was not quite to
the level of his natural storytelling ability. He chooses good variations in
angles and cinematic points of view and moves the narrative so that the story
could be followed without word balloons. But I felt the drawing was a bit
inconsistent at times. I was glad to see Moonstone pair him up with an
experienced professional inker like Keith Williams because I believe he was able
to take Thompson's pencils and truly embellish his work, without overpowering
it, and make Thompson's work even better. I was very pleased with the artwork
and even surprised by the fine color work since for some reason I came into this
thing thinking it was going to be a black and white comic. Color me pleasantly
surprised. Longtime fans of Buckaroo and the Cavaliers will be thrilled
at our first opportunity to glimpse the fiendish Hanoi Xan. New fans should be
intrigued enough by this first issue to want to check out the original movie or
the Banzai Institute website to learn more about the world's greatest real hero
and his team of adventurers. Nice package all around and even offers the
readers an opportunity for one lucky reader to be featured as the next Hong Kong
Cavalier. Who would not want that honor? I can't wait read the next
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39528 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Re: POTA rentals @ 15B |
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In a message dated 6/2/2006 4:45:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:
T
Have you been "spoken
to" again?!?!
Nah, I've been good.
It's easier to keep track which group
I'm on since I had to switch this one
to a different screen name to keep it
from bouncing. I can mind my P's & Q's
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39529 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 6/2/2006 |
| Subject: Re: The new comic pg4 |
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In a message dated 6/2/2006 9:48:17 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
darios@... writes:
I just
don't think it will happen in the next 10 - 20 years. There is no way that Fox
can try to jump start the franchise again so soon after the 2001
failure
I wish they's sell it. They've proven they can't do it right.
It's been going downhill since the original, almost without
exception, until the Burton debacle. It's time for them to
give it up and let someone else take a whack at it. But
Fox can't help but milk a cash cow for all it's worth. It
won't be long before they see dollar signs again, But
don't expect them to improve it any. They have a blind
spot when it comes to seeing what works and what won't.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39530 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: The new comic pg4 |
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What works for them is
raking in cash – which is not necessarily synonymous to making a movie
with a great story.
T, I know you have been watching
LOST. I know House is your fave (and mine too), but have you (or anyone here) seen
Veronica Mars? Great stories –
absolutely superior stories and cast and everything. BUT...it is struggling to find an
audience.....go figure.....
Michael
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Saturday, 3 June 2006 2:24
PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] The new
comic pg4
In a
message dated 6/2/2006 9:48:17 A.M. Central Daylight Time, darios@...
writes:
I just
don't think it will happen in the next 10 - 20 years. There is no way that Fox
can try to jump start the franchise again so soon after the 2001 failure
I wish
they's sell it. They've proven they can't do it right.
It's
been going downhill since the original, almost without
exception,
until the Burton debacle. It's time for them to
give it
up and let someone else take a whack at it. But
Fox
can't help but milk a cash cow for all it's worth. It
won't
be long before they see dollar signs again, But
don't
expect them to improve it any. They have a blind
spot
when it comes to seeing
what works and what won't.
--
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39531 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Kong |
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Rory... You have to admit the effects that produced Kong are about a thousand times better than that robot Kong from '76! The new Kong had more expression and emotion than most actors
working today......! Tim Haristas@... wrote:
I rented the DVD to make myself a copy. Why? I have no idea. Watching it, I simply can't sit through most of it. I guess I just wanted it for the record, but as fas as I'm concerned
it's no better than the '76 remake, and often more over-the-top.
A waste.
-- Rory
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39532 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Got Cornelius? |
.htmlBill did do a scene in the POTA TV show, which got cut out. Bill
auditioned to do Cornelius in the POTA cartoon but was turned down because
he sounded "too much" like Roddy and they were afraid Roddy would sue. Then
they traced over Bill's picture for the "Mission of Mercy" episode without
credit or compensation. Bill did his part for POTA but POTA has not been
kind to him. - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Tilton" <patrickmichaeltilton@...>
To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 6:30 AM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Got Cornelius?
> Man, isn't it incredible how dead-on accurate Bill and
> Paula looked as Roddy-Cornelius and Kim-Zira? The
> makers of the POTA tv show should've had Bill Blake do
> Roddy's stand-in stuff -- and they should've had Paula
> do a character (not Zira, of course), since she wore
> the chimpette makeups a whole lot better than Joanna
> Barnes ("Carsia") or Jacqueline Scott ("Kira") or
> Beverly Garland ("Wanda"). Not that the latter weren't
> fine actresses, but the makeups on 'em weren't as
> top-notch as were Zira's in the 1st film, which Paula
> seemed to have replicated perfectly.
>
> Patrick
>
>
> --- "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> > Not sure...here they are again.....I think I sent it
> > before as some painting of Zira somewhere was based
> > on the photo......
> > Tim
> >
> > TZer0@... wrote: In a message dated
> > 5/28/2006 4:45:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > apefan23@... writes:
> > Yep...got "Zira's" pic too which I think I've
> > posted before....
> >
> >
> > Where is it posted?
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39533 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Got Cornelius? |
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Paula Crist is in "Battle" as a human. When Aldo says to kill all
the humans in the corral, there's a close-up of her holding a little girl. She's
a blonde. - - - Jeff
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Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Got
Cornelius?
they
should've had Paulado a character (not Zira, of course), since she
wore
the chimpette makeups a whole lot better than Joanna
Barnes
("Carsia") or Jacqueline Scott ("Kira") or
Beverly Garland
("Wanda").
I agree on the first two, but I thought Beverly Garland's was quite
good.
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I think a sequel to POTA2001 would be an improvement in at least one
way. They are back on Earth. I was never crazy about the idea of setting the
first one on another planet, even though that's where the book was set. And
yeah, they could do a lot with a modern setting. BUT Fox is too busy doing comic
book movies. See my next post. - - - Jeff
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In a message dated 5/31/2006 11:10:21 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Willowape@... writes: I'm
not suprised. However it had no dead end like the
remake
There wasn't a dead end.
Actually I think a sequel
would be far superior to
it, because it would be
more like the book being
in a more modern setting.
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For those who think the comic book movie fad
can't sustain much longer, and now Fox can go back to more important things
(like an "Apes" sequel), think again. "USA Today" had an article on June 2nd
talking about the various "X-Men" spinoffs in the works. "X-Men 3" 's insane
opening weekend ($120 million) would seem to mandate this approach.
First of all, there's superstar Wolverine's
own movie, set to go into production next year. Then there's a "Magneto" movie
in the script stage. Fox head Hutch Parker says they are also considering a
movie about the "X-Men" kids at the school. And there's a character called "Emma
Frost" (her skin can turn to diamonds) that wasn't in the movies but director
David O. Russell ("Three Kings") is said to be interested in.
On top of that is the "Fantastic Four 2"
that is coming to theaters next summer. Jessica Alba said recently that it will
feature the character Silver Surfer that, yes, Fox wants to give his own movie
series.
In short, it looks like Fox will keep it's
own POTA property caged and instead labor at the House of Marvel. Move along,
there's nothing to see here. - - - Jeff
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I liked Jackson's "King Kong" (except
the length, Jack Black and the over-the-top action). So did Booth Colman, who
lived in Fay Wray's building for a while. - - - Jeff
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 7:04
PM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: EW names best
of nearly unwatchable sequels
Unlike POTA2001, some people actually LIKED Jackson's King
Kong.
Michael
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Subject:
Re: [PotaDG] Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels Date:
02/06/06 19:46
In a message dated 6/1/2006 6:30:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
Haristas@... writes:
I've watched KK on DVD recently... it just gets worse the more
often you see it.
LOL!!! . . . Yeah, the theatrical release should have been the
extended
director's cut. But he was on a roll with LOTRs, and no one would
stand
up to him. When studios won't stand up to directors, King Kong is
what
you get. When directors won't stand up to studios, POTA2K1 is
what
you get. Some times the magic happens . . . sometimes it
doesn't.
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Date: 6/3/2006 |
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I disagree. I think there is a large audience for new POTA movies
(shown by POTA2001's opening weekend; even Ben Affleck left rehab to see it).
The problem, I think, is the quality of the movie and now Fox isn't sure if
people would turn out for a sequel, even if it was good. I think they would,
audiences are very forgiving. They came out for "Batman Begins" after "Batman
and Robin". Fox is just TOTALLY handling this wrong. But they keep coming out on
top financially so they're doing something right. - - - Jeff
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Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 9:05
PM
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Cast &
Crew
-- Well I for one would
hate them to do a new movie using the same old characters, I mean what would
be the point of that? Using Zaius, Zira & Cornelius etc. would just be a
remake/re-imagining/re-hash of Planet.
What I would like to
see is totally new and original characters and have any new movie(s) set in
the time period between the end of Battle and the start of Planet. There's
hundreds of years to play with and any number of different directions any new
story could take. Sure I'd want them to have make-ups based on the original
look and clothes that resemble the original costumes (though they wouldn't
need to be exactly the same.)
But we all know we
won't get a new movie. Fox knows that there is only a tiny hardcore fan base
for POTA and the chances of attracting a new large loyal following to rival
something like Star Wars is a dream that isn't going to happen, and most of
the fans left probably wouldn't want to embrace anything radically new so why
bother?
Have a look at this
thread for instance - the same old thing we have discussed many times before!
The same seems to be true for most of these Apes groups as well, even over on
the POTA Group (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pota/
) one of the current threads is about whether the Lawgiver is
seen as a God or a Moses like figure. A discussion we and they have had many,
many times before! It wouldn't be so bad if these discussions involved a host
of new people but for the most it is the same people going over the same
things again and again. What we need is originality but unfortunately (with a
few very notable exceptions here and there) this seems to be something lacking
with 'Apes'
Neil
I still think Selma
Hayek is perfect for Nova though. Wasn't she on
that poster mock-up? But would she take a role with no
lines?
As for Zaius? Why not Ian McKellen? He's in everything
else.
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Date: 6/3/2006 |
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In a message dated 6/3/2006 2:52:50 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:
BUT...it
is struggling to find an audience.....go figure
Might be the time slot or something.
Plus I need a character I can relate to...
like a bitter, always right, know-it-all, or
a bald survivalist with a box of knives.
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Message: 39539 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Kong |
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In a message dated 6/3/2006 9:17:02 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
apefan23@... writes:
Rory...
You have to admit the effects that produced Kong are about a thousand times
better than that robot Kong from '76! The new Kong had more expression and
emotion than most actors working today......!
Yeah, finally CG is up to replacing makeup & animatronics . . .
and look what they do with it! A dozen dinosaurs in a
canyon
who take five minutes to step on the first guy. Hilarious!
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From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
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In a message dated 6/3/2006 11:34:58 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
veetus@... writes:
I liked
Jackson's "King Kong" (except the length, Jack Black and the over-the-top
action). So did Booth Colman,
So he like it, except for the three things it had the most of...
hmmm interesting . . . ; )
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From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
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In a message dated 6/3/2006 10:55:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
veetus@... writes:
I
think a sequel to POTA2001 would be an improvement in at least one way. They
are back on Earth. I was never crazy about the idea of setting the first one
on another planet, even though that's where the book was set. And yeah, they
could do a lot with a modern setting. BUT Fox is too busy doing comic book
movies.
A think a chase in DC would be far better than one in LA.
NY, maybe, but even that's been done before. Not a lot
of DC fugitive chases in movies. Especially ones with
Apes!
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From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
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These days I'll take what I can get! EVERYBODY abuses CG to the
expense of the story. But with "King Kong" I liked the period setting, I liked
Naiomi Watts, I liked the character of Kong, they didn't cop out on the ending
(kind of a POTA ending, the kind of ending they don't make any more with
expensive FX movies). It was too long but overall it was a good movie.
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AM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: EW names best
of nearly unwatchable sequels
In a message dated 6/3/2006 11:34:58 A.M. Central Daylight Time, veetus@... writes: I
liked Jackson's "King Kong" (except the length, Jack Black and the
over-the-top action). So did Booth Colman,
So he like it, except for the three things it had the most of...
hmmm interesting . . . ; )
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Date: 6/3/2006 |
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-- Well where is this
audience then? Surely if there is a large audience waiting around for a new
movie they would also be buying things like the new comic but even that isn't
guaranteed to go to a second series as it seems it hasn't sold in huge numbers
as Ty has repeatedly said any 2nd series will be based on the graphic novel
having large enough sales to justify that happening.
Apes is dead and Fox
knows it, the world has moved on to embrace other things since those good old
days when anything 'Ape' was guaranteed to sell.
For the last 20 odd years
or so anything to do with X - men has been guaranteed to sell comics in massive
numbers so it is little surprise that Fox will be milking that franchise to
death and I suspect all those X - fans will turn up at any movie that
has any link to that franchise, no matter how bad the movie is or which X
character it is about.
Neil
I disagree. I think there is a large audience for new POTA movies
(shown by POTA2001's opening weekend; even Ben Affleck left rehab to see it).
The problem, I think, is the quality of the movie and now Fox isn't sure if
people would turn out for a sequel, even if it was good. I think they would,
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From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Kong |
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In a message dated 6/3/06 10:17:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time, apefan23@... writes:
Rory... You have to admit the effects that produced Kong are about a thousand times better than that robot
Kong from '76! The new Kong had more expression and emotion than most actors working today......!
Tim
The new Kong had everything BUT a good script and a director who could be told when enough was too much already!<.html
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From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
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I’m with you Jeff. I liked it – didn’t HATE it, but
I disliked the length, Jack Black and the silliness involved in some of the
action sequences (like the dinosaurs rolling like the large round rock behind
Indiana Jones).
Michael
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of veetus@...
Sent: Sunday, 4 June 2006 2:41 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: EW names
best of nearly unwatchable sequels
I liked Jackson's "King
Kong" (except the length, Jack Black and the over-the-top action). So
did Booth Colman, who lived in Fay Wray's building for a while. - - -
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
Sent:
Thursday,
June 01, 2006 7:04 PM
Subject:
Re:
[PotaDG] Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels
Unlike POTA2001, some
people actually LIKED Jackson's King Kong.
Michael
--------- Original Message --------
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
To: "PotaDG@yahoogroups.com"
<PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels
Date: 02/06/06 19:46
In a
message dated 6/1/2006 6:30:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@...
writes:
I've watched KK on DVD recently... it just gets worse the
more often you see it.
LOL!!!
. . . Yeah, the theatrical release should have been the extended
director's
cut. But he was on a roll with LOTRs, and no one would stand
up to
him. When studios won't stand up to directors, King Kong is what
you
get. When directors won't stand up to studios, POTA2K1 is what
you
get. Some times the magic happens . . . sometimes it doesn't.
--
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Date: 6/3/2006 |
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After at least a 10 year wait wasn’t
it (or more?).
I think Batman has LOTS more fans too.....
But yes, they are making sequels to worse
movies than POTA (so did THOSE movies sell more toys?).
Michael
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Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of veetus@...
Sent:
Sunday, 4
June 2006
2:48 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Cast &
Crew
They
came out for "Batman Begins" after "Batman and Robin".
--
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From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: The new comic pg4 |
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Watch
VM, T. Go hire Season 1 on DVD.
Every one of the 20 people I have lent the
DVDs to has returned after that weekend with the same MO....they watched one
episode then essentially threw out all their plans for the weekend and watched
the entire season!
Michael
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Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Sunday, 4 June 2006 4:15 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] The new
comic pg4
In a
message dated 6/3/2006 2:52:50 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:
BUT...it
is struggling to find an audience.....go figure
Might
be the time slot or something.
Plus I
need a character I can relate to...
like a
bitter, always right, know-it-all, or
a bald
survivalist with a box of knives.
--
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From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
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In a message dated 6/3/06 7:31:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:
I'm with you Jeff. I liked it โ didn't HATE it, but I disliked the length, Jack Black and the
silliness involved in some of the action sequences (like the dinosaurs rolling like the large round rock behind Indiana Jones).
Michael
What I hated was the lack of character development, characters that were just there and then killed off, lousy dialogue, lack of cleverness with a story that's pretty stale -- though the original is a classic I never
get tired of -- Jackson simply didn't do anything interesting with the whole thing except pay a sappy, overblown homage to it. Just look at how hallow and flat the final line plays in the new version.
It's like General Thade should look into the mouth of the new Kong and ask, "Is there a soul in there?"
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From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
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She liked you too Jeff!
You just love her because she’s an
Aussie! ;)
Michael
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of veetus@...
Sent:
Sunday, 4
June 2006
5:45 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: EW names
best of nearly unwatchable sequels
I liked
Naiomi Watts
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From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
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In a message dated 6/3/06 7:39:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:
She liked you too Jeff!
You just love her because she's an Aussie! ;)
Michael
I felt sorry for her. She really didn't have a part to play. It was just all reaction and silliness.
Anyway, I'll bet the paycheck was nice.
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From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
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Well I guess he wanted a noticeable
landmark and one that could be changed to Thade.
Liberty as
Thade would have drawn even MORE
laughs! J
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Sunday, 4 June 2006 4:26 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] EW names
best of nearly unwatchable sequels
In a
message dated 6/3/2006 10:55:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
veetus@... writes:
I think a sequel to POTA2001 would be an improvement in at least one way. They
are back on Earth. I was never crazy about the idea of setting the first one on
another planet, even though that's where the book was set. And yeah, they could
do a lot with a modern setting. BUT Fox is too busy doing comic book movies.
A think
a chase in DC would be far better than one in LA.
NY,
maybe, but even that's been done before. Not a lot
of DC
fugitive chases in movies. Especially ones with Apes!
--
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Message: 39552 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Is there a soul in there |
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I
think that line was Burton
taking the piss out of himself, POTA2001 and
Hollywood in general these days.......
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Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent:
Sunday, 4
June 2006
9:38 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: EW names
best of nearly unwatchable sequels
"Is there a soul in there?"
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From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Cast & Crew |
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When you look at the X-Men toons you can
see the writing shits all over anything POTA (other than Planet).
The X-Men stories were PLANNED to be
continuing and build on the previous – whereas Beneath
was planned to be the last (and 3 more followed).
I think the design is important.
LOTR, for example, was designed as a
trilogy. SW wasn’t, but I
think the original SW was more open to it and at least Harrison Ford didn’t
force them to explode the universe at the end of the first sequel! J
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil
T Foster
Sent: Sunday, 4 June 2006 7:20 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Cast &
Crew
-- Well where is this audience then? Surely if there is a
large audience waiting around for a new movie they would also be buying things
like the new comic but even that isn't guaranteed to go to a second series as
it seems it hasn't sold in huge numbers as Ty has repeatedly said any 2nd
series will be based on the graphic novel having large enough sales to
justify that happening.
Apes is dead and Fox knows it, the world has moved on to
embrace other things since those good old days when anything 'Ape' was
guaranteed to sell.
For the last 20 odd years or so anything to do with X - men
has been guaranteed to sell comics in massive numbers so it is little surprise
that Fox will be milking that franchise to death and I suspect all those X
- fans will turn up at any movie that has any link to that franchise,
no matter how bad the movie is or which X character it is about.
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of veetus@...
Sent: Sunday, 4 June 2006 2:48 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Cast &
Crew
I disagree. I think there is a large audience for new POTA movies (shown by
POTA2001's opening weekend; even Ben Affleck left rehab to see it). The
problem, I think, is the quality of the movie and now Fox isn't sure if people
would turn out for a sequel, even if it was good. I think they would, audiences
are very forgiving.
--
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Well,
she races about Jeff – and he’s a bit of an ape apparently......
Do you think (based on her other movies
then!) she’d be a good Nova?
I think you are very right about the
TRIBUTE aspect too – maybe Jackson
’s love for the original stopped him from wanting to BE too
original?
Michael
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[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Sunday, 4 June 2006 9:41 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: EW names
best of nearly unwatchable sequels
In a message dated 6/3/06 7:39:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:
She
liked you too Jeff!
You just love her because she’s an Aussie! ;)
Michael
I felt sorry for her. She really didn't have a part to play. It was
just all reaction and silliness.
Anyway, I'll bet the paycheck was nice.
I wonder if she likes APES?
--
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Date: 6/3/2006 |
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Here's a CONQUEST DVD cover I made last week. Notice the title in the spine. CONQUEST really doesn't have a logo like the first three movies, so I had just the art from the 1-sheet and lift the
letters from that. I can't say I really like it entirely, but it kind of works.
Now to BATTLE and then that's that!
-- Rory<.html<.html <.html
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Date: 6/3/2006 |
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In a message dated 6/3/06 7:49:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:
Do you think (based on her other movies then!) she'd be a good Nova?
No! She'd be a better Zira.<.html
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Date: 6/3/2006 |
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Thanks Neil!
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[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil
T Foster
Sent: Sunday, 4 June 2006 10:15 AM
To: 'PotaDG'
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Message: 39559 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
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OK
I’ll tell her you said that!
Michael
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Sunday, 4 June 2006 9:59 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: EW names
best of nearly unwatchable sequels
In a message dated 6/3/06 7:49:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:
Do you
think (based on her other movies then!) she’d be a good Nova?
No! She'd be a better Zira.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39560 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 6/3/2006 |
| Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDiscussionGroupphotos2 |
| Group: potadg |
Message: 39561 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 6/4/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Cast & Crew |
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In a message dated 6/3/2006 4:21:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
ntfoster@... writes:
Apes is dead and Fox knows
it
You mean Apes is dead, and Fox killed it!
Did you not look at the IMDB - Pro chart I
posted? The interest in POTA was constant
until the new one, when it spiked and then
fell off sharply. It's all in the graph. I hate
to sound like one of my old arch enemies
Ross Perot, but look at the chart!. Fox
has killed Apes. And there's only one
wat to bring it back. T Zero presents . . .
Planet of the Apes. Naked humans,
Forced Mating! the full on NC-17
treatment! OR as near an R as I can
get to it. When I get done with it,
it will make the original look like
the G Rating it eventually ended
up with. It won't be a Kids movie,
butt it will be the kind of movie
kid want to see. Remember,
it didn't start out with a G.
It go that in the second run
at the drive-ins.
No way Hose!
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39562 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 6/4/2006 |
| Subject: Re: The new comic pg4 |
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In a message dated 6/3/2006 6:35:33 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:
Watch VM,
T. Go hire Season 1 on
DVD.
That good, eh?
And you can rent it?
If only I wasn't in the
middle of moving.
Remind me next month.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39563 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 6/4/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
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In a message dated 6/3/2006 6:38:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
Haristas@... writes:
What I
hated was the lack of character development, characters that were just there
and then killed off, lousy dialogue, lack of cleverness with a story that's
pretty stale -- though the original is a classic I never get tired of --
Jackson
It's nice to try and recapture the feel of the original.
But it just seemed forced. I don't need to be shown
a Soup Kitchen to know it's the 30's. And you can't
bring back Pre-Brando acting without coming across
like Dick Tracy. It's just not possible. The second
Indiana Jones proved that. Jackson had his shot.
But in my opinion, he blew it, and the editor didn't
step up and save his ass. Vanity, thy name is Jackson!
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39564 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 6/4/2006 |
| Subject: Re: EW names best of nearly unwatchable sequels |
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In a message dated 6/3/2006 6:59:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
Haristas@... writes:
No! She'd be a better Zira.
She doesn't have the acting chops to pull off Zira.
Granted I didn't see the remake of Ringu, or I
heart Huckabees. Or 21 Grams, but she didn't
win the Oscar for it. Brit awards and Palm de Ore
don't count. Then again H B'C lost her Oscar too.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39565 |
From: majorhendricks |
Date: 6/4/2006 |
| Subject: How did the Apes get so smart after CONQUEST? |
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.html At the beginning of CONQUEST, we see that ape labor has become a
necessary evil in this society. However, there are reports (before
Caesar even starts his revolution) that there are a great rise in the
number of ape disobedience and unauthorized gatherings.
But how did apes become so intelligent within only 20 years after
Cornelius, Milo, and Zira'a arrival on earth?
I would conjecture that after the apeonaut's deaths, there bodies
were put into storage and used -- from time to time -- by scientists
for study. Years later, the plague from space killed man's pets and
apes were then used as a substitute. It was not long after this that
is was realized the Apes could be trained for manual labor, however
training them and conditioning them was costly and time consuming --
and their abilities were limited at best.
It would be at this point that the company or companies that procured
the ape slave trade discovered that the genes of Cornelius, Zira and
Milo could be used to breed a new race of apes -- eugenically
programmed to learn quicker than your average ape.
Of course, the government approved of this -- no doubt the lobbying
dollars of these powerful ape brokers, outweighed the prophecies of
C&Z regarding the downfall of mankind.
By the time Caesar arrives in the city, I would think that there were
already isolated incidents of apes who could speak. These apes were
rounded up and destroyed immediately by the police. Why else would
the police be so ready to accept the possibility that it was Caesar
who could have made the outburst?
It was too late when man realized that these apes were now too smart -
- there was no way to remove all the apes from society without the
economy collapsing. All they could do was to create a "police state"
and destroy any and all apes that were too intelligent (classified
as "disobedient") as they surfaced. Caesar is really only the spark
that sets off the forest fire that would be the ape revolution.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39566 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 6/4/2006 |
| Subject: Re: How did the Apes get so smart after CONQUEST? |
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-- Firstly,
welcome to the group Bill.
You bring up some
very interesting points here, and I can certainly envisage the scenario that you
have put forward. It certainly makes a lot more sense than the apes getting
smarter just by being around humans more.
A bit of gene
manipulation would be a big help and I'm sure there could have been certain
corporations or government departments willing to experiment even though they
were aware of the consequences, after all if there is money to be made in the
short term why worry about the future.
Neil
But how did apes become so
intelligent within only 20 years after
Cornelius, Milo, and Zira'a arrival
on earth?
I would conjecture that after the apeonaut's deaths, there
bodies
were put into storage and used -- from time to time -- by
scientists
for study. Years later, the plague from space killed man's pets
and
apes were then used as a substitute. It was not long after this
that
is was realized the Apes could be trained for manual labor, however
training them and conditioning them was costly and time consuming --
and their abilities were limited at best.
It would be at this point
that the company or companies that procured
the ape slave trade discovered
that the genes of Cornelius, Zira and
Milo could be used to breed a new
race of apes -- eugenically
programmed to learn quicker than your average
ape.
Of course, the government approved of this -- no doubt the
lobbying
dollars of these powerful ape brokers, outweighed the prophecies
of
C&Z regarding the downfall of mankind. <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39567 |
From: Neil T Foster |
Date: 6/4/2006 |
| Subject: Re: How did the Apes get so smart after CONQUEST? |
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-- One thing that
has always bugged me is wouldn't the body of (fake) baby Milo have been
recovered from the water? Surely the authorities would want to confirm it's
death and more importantly it's identity?
Neil
I would conjecture that after
the apeonaut's deaths, there bodies
were put into storage and used -- from
time to time -- by scientists
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39568 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 6/4/2006 |
| Subject: Re: How did the Apes get so smart after CONQUEST? |
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I guess we are assuming a hungry shark
beat them to it Neil because yes, they would recover that body with a very high
priority (if they COULD...)!
I’ll never forget that feeling of
horror when Zira pushed the baby over the side. Thankfully my dad was nearby to explain!
Michael
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil
T Foster
Sent: Monday, 5 June 2006 7:05 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] How did the
Apes get so smart after CONQUEST?
-- One thing that has always
bugged me is wouldn't the body of (fake) baby Milo have been recovered from the
water? Surely the authorities would want to confirm it's death and more
importantly it's identity?
Neil
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of majorhendricks
Sent: Monday, 5 June 2006 12:48 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] How did the Apes
get so smart after CONQUEST?
I would conjecture
that after the apeonaut's deaths, there bodies
were put into storage and used -- from time to time -- by scientists
for study.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39569 |
From: Michael Whitty |
Date: 6/4/2006 |
| Subject: Re: How did the Apes get so smart after CONQUEST? |
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Yes – welcome Bill!
Michael
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil
T Foster
Sent: Monday, 5 June 2006 7:03 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] How did the
Apes get so smart after CONQUEST?
-- Firstly, welcome to the group
Bill.
You bring up some very interesting
points here, and I can certainly envisage the scenario that you have put
forward. It certainly makes a lot more sense than the apes getting smarter just
by being around humans more.
A bit of gene manipulation would
be a big help and I'm sure there could have been certain corporations or
government departments willing to experiment even though they were aware of the
consequences, after all if there is money to be made in the short term why worry
about the future.
Neil
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of majorhendricks
Sent: Monday, 5 June 2006 12:48 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] How did the Apes
get so smart after CONQUEST?
But how did apes become
so intelligent within only 20 years after
Cornelius, Milo, and Zira'a arrival on earth?
I would conjecture that after the apeonaut's deaths, there bodies
were put into storage and used -- from time to time -- by scientists
for study. Years later, the plague from space killed man's pets and
apes were then used as a substitute. It was not long after this that
is was realized the Apes could be trained for manual labor, however
training them and conditioning them was costly and time consuming --
and their abilities were limited at best.
It would be at this point that the company or companies that procured
the ape slave trade discovered that the genes of Cornelius, Zira and
Milo could be used to breed a new race of apes -- eugenically
programmed to learn quicker than your average ape.
Of course, the government approved of this -- no doubt the lobbying
dollars of these powerful ape brokers, outweighed the prophecies of
C&Z regarding the downfall of mankind.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39570 |
From: tshaf37@aol.com |
Date: 6/4/2006 |
| Subject: Re: How did the Apes get so smart after CONQUEST? |
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Wow an apes question, I'm not sure how to respond to this one?
That's a great question, I have always wondered the same myself. Welcome to the
group Bill.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39571 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 6/4/2006 |
| Subject: Re: How did the Apes get so smart after CONQUEST? |
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In a message dated 6/4/2006 3:19:21 PM Central Standard Time, atragon1@... writes:
At the beginning of CONQUEST, we see that ape labor has become a
necessary evil in this society. However, there are reports (before
Caesar even starts his revolution) that there are a great rise in the
number of ape disobedience and unauthorized gatherings.
Yes, but if you listen to what Mac Donald says, he proves that their "disobedience" has been proven minor... And, if you read the novel of CONQUEST, John Jakes expands on this and basically says that an
unauthorized gathering could be as simple as a few apes standing in a group innocently looking at each other... This is even played out in the film when the police are called to break up the gathering at the foot of
ramp six... Remember, Breck is EXTREMELY paranoid and anything and everything is seen as a threat by him...
By the time Caesar arrives in the city, I would think that there were
already isolated incidents of apes who could speak. These apes were
rounded up and destroyed immediately by the police. Why else would
the police be so ready to accept the possibility that it was Caesar
who could have made the outburst?
If there were indeed "other talking apes", there is no doubt that Breck and Kolp would have known about them... Things would not have been kept from them... If there were other "intelligent" apes,
they would NOT have reacted so crazily to Caesar...
And, as far as why the cops reacted to the way they did, they too would have been brain-washed with Breck's propaganda... <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39572 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 6/4/2006 |
| Subject: Re: How did the Apes get so smart after CONQUEST? |
.htmlJust as Zaius and Co. destroyed Landon's brain.... Tim mlccougar@...
wrote:
By the time Caesar arrives in the city, I would think that there were
already isolated incidents of apes who could speak. These apes were
rounded up and destroyed immediately by the police. Why else would
the police be so ready to accept the possibility that it was Caesar
who could have made the outburst?
If there were indeed "other talking apes", there is no doubt that Breck and Kolp would have known about them... Things would not have been kept from them... If there were other
"intelligent" apes, they would NOT have reacted so crazily to Caesar...
And, as far as why the cops reacted to the way they did, they too would have been brain-washed with Breck's propaganda...
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39573 |
From: atragon1@aol.com |
Date: 6/4/2006 |
| Subject: Re: How did the Apes get so smart after CONQUEST? |
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In a message dated 6/4/2006 10:38:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, apefan23@... writes:
Just as Zaius and Co. destroyed Landon's brain....
Tim
Thank you all for your warm welcome!
An interesting analogy could be made between the apes of CONQUEST and Nova in BENEATH... (as you know, Nova did finally acquire the power of speech, in the final moments
of her life).
I would also suspect that there were numerous incidents of talking humans in Zaius' Ape City. And that those humans met the same fate as poor ol' Landon.. I guess what goes
around, comes around!
Bill <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39574 |
From: Dario Sciola |
Date: 6/5/2006 |
| Subject: Re: How did the Apes get so smart after CONQUEST? |
.htmlSetting aside the very probable fact that was pointed out that it may
have been impossible to get to the chimp in time (sharks, etc), even
if the body was recovered, so what?
Remember that DNA technology just wasn't available (neither in '74 the
year of the movie, and just barely in the supposed 1980 that the film
was set in). Even if the technology was available, there really was no
reason to suspect that a switch had been made. The fact that Zira
through the baby in the water supported the notion that she herself
believed it to be her own, an act that would have erased any doubts to
those who may have questioned the matter further.
We (the audience) only know she did the switch, because her
circumstances allowed it(being in Armondo's Circus at a time a baby
chimp was there as well).
Dario
----- Original Message -----
From: Neil T Foster <ntfoster@...>
Date: Sunday, June 4, 2006 5:05 pm
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] How did the Apes get so smart after CONQUEST?
> -- One thing that has always bugged me is wouldn't the body of (fake)
> baby Milo have been recovered from the water? Surely the authorities
> would want to confirm it's death and more importantly it's identity?
>
> Neil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of majorhendricks
> Sent: Monday, 5 June 2006 12:48 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] How did the Apes get so smart after CONQUEST?
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>
> I would conjecture that after the apeonaut's deaths, there bodies
> were put into storage and used -- from time to time -- by
> scientists
> for study.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39575 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 6/5/2006 |
| Subject: Re: How did the Apes get so smart after CONQUEST? |
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In a message dated 6/4/2006 5:03:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
whitty@... writes:
I'll never forget
that feeling of horror when Zira pushed the baby
over the side. Thankfully my dad
was nearby to explain!
Maybe you can explain it to me then.
I wasn't entirely sure about that scene.
I thought it was a combination of . . .
"You want the baby so much? then
here!" and just getting rid of any
evidence of the switch of the chimps.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 39576 |
From: veetus@earthlink.net |
Date: 6/5/2006 |
| Subject: Re: Cast & Crew |
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The audience was there opening weekend. Fox screwed it up and
the interest died. Fox needed a movie people could rally around; instead they
made POTA "uncool" and now it's a dirty word. But if they did a good movie, one
that's true to the spirit of the originals, I think the audience would come
back. - - - Jeff
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Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 2:19
PM
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Cast &
Crew
-- Well where is this
audience then? Surely if there is a large audience waiting around for a new
movie they would also be buying things like the new comic but even that isn't
guaranteed to go to a second series as it seems it hasn't sold in huge numbers
as Ty has repeatedly said any 2nd series will be based on the graphic novel
having large enough sales to justify that happening.
Apes is dead and Fox
knows it, the world has moved on to embrace other things since those good old
days when anything 'Ape' was guaranteed to sell.
For the last 20 odd
years or so anything to do with X - men has been guaranteed to sell comics in
massive numbers so it is little surprise that Fox will be milking that
franchise to death and I suspect all those X - fans will turn up at any
movie that has any link to that franchise, no matter how bad the movie is
or which X character it is about.
Neil
I disagree. I think there is a large audience for new POTA
movies (shown by POTA2001's opening weekend; even Ben Affleck left rehab to
see it). The problem, I think, is the quality of the movie and now Fox isn't
sure if people would turn out for a sequel, even if it was good. I think
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