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Group: potadg Message: 40078 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 7/12/2006
Subject: Re: Pendreigh vs Heston
Group: potadg Message: 40079 From: Graham Hill Date: 7/12/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2233
Group: potadg Message: 40080 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/12/2006
Subject: Re: Favorite Ape artists
Group: potadg Message: 40081 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/12/2006
Subject: Re: Favorite Ape artists
Group: potadg Message: 40082 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/12/2006
Subject: Re: Hunter's script archive and Marvel UK 91
Group: potadg Message: 40083 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/12/2006
Subject: Re: Apesfan
Group: potadg Message: 40084 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/12/2006
Subject: Re: Favorite Ape artists
Group: potadg Message: 40085 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/12/2006
Subject: Pendreigh vs Heston
Group: potadg Message: 40086 From: Graham Hill Date: 7/12/2006
Subject: Re: Favorite Ape artists
Group: potadg Message: 40087 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/12/2006
Subject: Re: Favorite Ape artists
Group: potadg Message: 40088 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 7/12/2006
Subject: Re: Pendreigh vs Heston
Group: potadg Message: 40089 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 7/12/2006
Subject: Re: Favorite Ape artists
Group: potadg Message: 40090 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/13/2006
Subject: Re: Favorite Ape artists
Group: potadg Message: 40091 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 7/13/2006
Subject: Re: Favorite Ape artists
Group: potadg Message: 40092 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 7/13/2006
Subject: Re: {Disarmed} Re: [PotaDG] Pendreigh vs Heston
Group: potadg Message: 40093 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 7/13/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2233
Group: potadg Message: 40094 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 7/13/2006
Subject: Re: Pendreigh vs Heston
Group: potadg Message: 40095 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 7/13/2006
Subject: Re: Gold is the key
Group: potadg Message: 40096 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/13/2006
Subject: Pendreigh vs Heston
Group: potadg Message: 40097 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/13/2006
Subject: Re: Pendreigh vs Heston
Group: potadg Message: 40098 From: Graham Hill Date: 7/13/2006
Subject: Re: Favorite Ape artists
Group: potadg Message: 40099 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 7/13/2006
Subject: Re: Pendreigh vs Heston
Group: potadg Message: 40100 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/13/2006
Subject: Re: Pendreigh vs Heston
Group: potadg Message: 40101 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 7/14/2006
Subject: Re: Pendreigh vs Heston
Group: potadg Message: 40102 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/14/2006
Subject: Re: question for Rory
Group: potadg Message: 40103 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/14/2006
Subject: Re: question for Rory
Group: potadg Message: 40104 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/14/2006
Subject: Re: question for Rory
Group: potadg Message: 40105 From: Rich Handley Date: 7/14/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2236
Group: potadg Message: 40106 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/15/2006
Subject: Question for Rory
Group: potadg Message: 40107 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/15/2006
Subject: Re: Question for Rory
Group: potadg Message: 40108 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 7/15/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2236
Group: potadg Message: 40109 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/16/2006
Subject: Cheap Head!
Group: potadg Message: 40110 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/16/2006
Subject: Re: Cheap Head!
Group: potadg Message: 40111 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 7/17/2006
Subject: OT: "Star Trek' cartoons coming
Group: potadg Message: 40112 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/17/2006
Subject: Re: OT: "Star Trek' cartoons coming
Group: potadg Message: 40113 From: Dario Sciola Date: 7/17/2006
Subject: Something I came across
Group: potadg Message: 40114 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 40115 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: Paintings
Group: potadg Message: 40116 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: Re: Something I came across
Group: potadg Message: 40117 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 40118 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: Re: OT: "Star Trek' cartoons coming
Group: potadg Message: 40119 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: Paintings
Group: potadg Message: 40120 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 40121 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: Paintings
Group: potadg Message: 40122 From: Neil Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: Re: Pendreigh vs Heston
Group: potadg Message: 40123 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 7/19/2006
Subject: Re: Pendreigh vs Heston
Group: potadg Message: 40124 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/19/2006
Subject: Re: {Disarmed} [PotaDG] Paintings
Group: potadg Message: 40125 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 7/19/2006
Subject: Marvel UK 92
Group: potadg Message: 40126 From: Graham Hill Date: 7/19/2006
Subject: Re: Paintings
Group: potadg Message: 40127 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/19/2006
Subject: Re: {Disarmed} [PotaDG] Paintings
Group: potadg Message: 40128 From: Neil Date: 7/19/2006
Subject: Re: Marvel UK 92
Group: potadg Message: 40129 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/19/2006
Subject: Re: Paintings
Group: potadg Message: 40130 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/19/2006
Subject: Re: Paintings
Group: potadg Message: 40131 From: gp3085 Date: 7/19/2006
Subject: Re: Marvel UK 92
Group: potadg Message: 40132 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 7/20/2006
Subject: OT: In "Space" no one can hear Eric Greene allegorize
Group: potadg Message: 40133 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 7/20/2006
Subject: Return release on DVD - October 3rd
Group: potadg Message: 40134 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/20/2006
Subject: Return release on DVD - October 3rd
Group: potadg Message: 40135 From: Neil Date: 7/20/2006
Subject: Re: Return release on DVD - October 3rd
Group: potadg Message: 40136 From: Neil Date: 7/20/2006
Subject: Re: Return release on DVD - October 3rd
Group: potadg Message: 40137 From: Neil Date: 7/20/2006
Subject: Re: Return release on DVD - October 3rd
Group: potadg Message: 40138 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/20/2006
Subject: Linda Harrison cards
Group: potadg Message: 40139 From: gp3085 Date: 7/20/2006
Subject: Re: Linda Harrison cards
Group: potadg Message: 40140 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/20/2006
Subject: Re: Linda Harrison cards
Group: potadg Message: 40141 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/21/2006
Subject: Chris Hight on ebay?
Group: potadg Message: 40142 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/21/2006
Subject: Chris Hight on ebay?
Group: potadg Message: 40143 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/21/2006
Subject: Re: Chris Hight on ebay?
Group: potadg Message: 40144 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/21/2006
Subject: Chris Hight on ebay?
Group: potadg Message: 40145 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/22/2006
Subject: Re: Linda Harrison cards
Group: potadg Message: 40146 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/22/2006
Subject: FW: [yg-alerts] Digest Number 8
Group: potadg Message: 40147 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/22/2006
Subject: Re: Chris Hight on ebay?
Group: potadg Message: 40148 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/22/2006
Subject: Re: Chris Hight on ebay?
Group: potadg Message: 40149 From: Neil Date: 7/22/2006
Subject: Re: Linda Harrison cards
Group: potadg Message: 40150 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/22/2006
Subject: Re: {Disarmed} RE: [PotaDG] Re: Linda Harrison cards
Group: potadg Message: 40151 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/22/2006
Subject: Comment by Author Robert J Sawyer!
Group: potadg Message: 40152 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/22/2006
Subject: Re: Chris Hight on ebay?
Group: potadg Message: 40153 From: gp3085 Date: 7/22/2006
Subject: {Disarmed} RE: [PotaDG] Re: Linda Harrison cards
Group: potadg Message: 40154 From: its the who??? Date: 7/22/2006
Subject: Re: Chris Hight on ebay?
Group: potadg Message: 40155 From: Chris Hight Date: 7/22/2006
Subject: Re: Chris Hight on ebay?
Group: potadg Message: 40156 From: Robert J. Sawyer Date: 7/22/2006
Subject: Re: Comment by Author Robert J Sawyer!
Group: potadg Message: 40157 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/22/2006
Subject: Question for Author Robert J Sawyer!
Group: potadg Message: 40158 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 7/23/2006
Subject: Re: Chris Hight on ebay?
Group: potadg Message: 40159 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/23/2006
Subject: Chris Hight on ebay?
Group: potadg Message: 40160 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/23/2006
Subject: Neil Foster on Chris Hight?
Group: potadg Message: 40161 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/23/2006
Subject: Re: {Disarmed} RE: [PotaDG] Re: Linda Harrison cards
Group: potadg Message: 40162 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/23/2006
Subject: Re: Chris Hight on ebay?
Group: potadg Message: 40163 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/23/2006
Subject: Re: Neil Foster on Chris Hight?
Group: potadg Message: 40164 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/23/2006
Subject: Re: Chris Hight on ebay?
Group: potadg Message: 40165 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 7/23/2006
Subject: Re: Chris Hight on ebay?
Group: potadg Message: 40166 From: Neil Date: 7/23/2006
Subject: Re: Paintings
Group: potadg Message: 40167 From: Neil Date: 7/23/2006
Subject: Re: Question for Rory
Group: potadg Message: 40168 From: Neil Date: 7/23/2006
Subject: Re: Pendreigh vs Heston
Group: potadg Message: 40169 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/23/2006
Subject: Re: Question for Rory
Group: potadg Message: 40170 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/23/2006
Subject: Re: Question for Rory
Group: potadg Message: 40171 From: Chris Hight Date: 7/23/2006
Subject: Re: Chris Hight on ebay?
Group: potadg Message: 40172 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/23/2006
Subject: Chris Hight's Custom Action Figures
Group: potadg Message: 40173 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/23/2006
Subject: Anybody like to guess what this is?
Group: potadg Message: 40174 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 7/23/2006
Subject: Re: Pendreigh vs Heston
Group: potadg Message: 40175 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 7/23/2006
Subject: Re: Chris Hight on ebay?
Group: potadg Message: 40176 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 7/23/2006
Subject: Re: Question for Rory
Group: potadg Message: 40177 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/23/2006
Subject: Question for Ty Templeton



Group: potadg Message: 40078 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 7/12/2006
Subject: Re: Pendreigh vs Heston
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In a message dated 7/12/2006 3:07:13 A.M. Central Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:

Yup.

I disagree with a lot of Patrick's ideas but I respect and admire his efforts.

 
Okay . . . Let me rephrase that.
Would you read Pat's book.
 
 
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Group: potadg Message: 40079 From: Graham Hill Date: 7/12/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2233
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Rich Handley <handleyr@...> wrote

> Actually, four years' worth of weekly Star Trek comic strips were
> also published around that time, from 1969 to '73,



Oh yeah, your right Rich forgot about them, are these the ones that
appeared in TV comic?
Best Graham.
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Group: potadg Message: 40080 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/12/2006
Subject: Re: Favorite Ape artists
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.html As far as the GOLD-KEY comic, that is a very good question... That's something I'd like to know  the answer to myself...

But, as far as the MAD Magazine goes, I am gonna GUESS that because it was done as a parody there's not much he could do about it... I mean I am basing it on the same fact that politicians can be drawn as in political commentary without retribution against the artists, I am guessing that since they were doing a satire of APES then all was fair game...



In a message dated 7/12/06 9:56:57 AM Central Daylight Time, patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:


And what about the MAD magazine
parody, "The Planet That Went Ape" -- THEY used Heston's likeness and
I've never heard anything about them gettin' into trouble for it. Did
these nit-pickin' contractual details get written AFTER these works
were printed? Did Heston have to give his OK for Mad Magazine and the
Gold Key BENEATH adaptation, or did they just do them and hope
Heston's lawyers wouldn't notice?


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Group: potadg Message: 40081 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/12/2006
Subject: Re: Favorite Ape artists
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-- The late Don Newton also used well known actors as some of the characters in some of the Phantom strips he did for Charlton comics back in the sixties. I remember him using Sydney Greenstreet and Bogart and a few others actors likenesses in at least one story he drew and I'm pretty sure there were other occasions where he did it as well.
 
Neil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of patrickmichaeltilton
Sent: Thursday, 13 July 2006 12:40 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Favorite Ape artists

I think that Paul Gulacy once almost got into legal trouble for
making certain characters in MASTER OF KUNG FU look like certain well-
known actors (Bruce Lee, Connery, Brando, etc). He just wanted
to "cast" those actors in the "movies" that he was drawing -- his
comics back then always had a very cinematic feel to 'em.

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Group: potadg Message: 40082 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/12/2006
Subject: Re: Hunter's script archive and Marvel UK 91
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-- Great, thanks Greg, Mark and Hunter. Brains in jars! Yayyyyy!!!!!! ;-)
 
Neil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Plonowski
Sent: Thursday, 13 July 2006 1:01 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com; potadg@yahoogroups.com; friends & fugitives
Subject: [PotaDG] Hunter's script archive and Marvel UK 91

At last we have a script for the final TV episode we needed for the archive on Hunter's site. Thanks to Mark Rogers we not only have the Revised Final script for "The Deception" we also have the Outline written for the episode.
 
Even though it appears our script archive is now complete, with scripts for all five films and all 14 TV episodes as well as early versions of film scripts, unfilmed sequels and unproduced TV episodes, we still have more scripts to be added in the coming weeks. A first draft script of The Legacy is ready to be scanned, and a later version of Escape From Tomorrow than the one currently available is also waiting to be scanned.
 
Also available on Hunter's site today is issue 91 of the Marvel UK series. I believe that fans of the brains in the jars will particularly enjoy this week's installment. Letter column fans will also rejoice at the return of their favorite feature.
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Group: potadg Message: 40083 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/12/2006
Subject: Re: Apesfan
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-- That would be cool, thanks Dario, I'll be in touch!
 
Neil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dario Sciola
Sent: Thursday, 13 July 2006 12:02 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: [PotaDG] Apesfan

I posted a while back that I managed to scan Apesfan #2, but that the
total size was some ridiculous amount (about 70 Mb if I recall).
I am a bit hesitant and never got around to asking Hunter if he was
willing to host the files. It's not so much the space that it will eat
of his drive (I assume its an enterprise grade server with lots of
diskspace, but if a lot of people start downloading it, he might end
up having to pay for the used bandwidth).

I could burn a few CDs and send them to some people. Neil as you just
lost out on ebay why don't you send me you home address via private
email and I'll send you a CD.

.

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Group: potadg Message: 40084 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/12/2006
Subject: Re: Favorite Ape artists
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-- Funnily enough I don't seem to have done many POTA paintings over the years. I can only think of two or three. One is the cover I painted for the Values audio CD and another is a Mad type/influenced cover I painted for what was to be a Simian Scrolls action figure special that never was. And of course there is the painted version of that splash page from Beware the Beast that we had made up into a poster.
 
Neil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Wednesday, 12 July 2006 3:29 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Favorite Ape artists

Have you done any paintings
such as other POTA portrait
artists have done?  I'd love to
see them posted if you have. 
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Group: potadg Message: 40085 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/12/2006
Subject: Pendreigh vs Heston
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Yes.

 

I would take a couple of months leave from work to start on a few degrees first....  

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Group: potadg Message: 40086 From: Graham Hill Date: 7/12/2006
Subject: Re: Favorite Ape artists
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- The late Don Newton also used well known actors as some of the
> characters in some of the Phantom strips he did for Charlton
comics back
> in the sixties. I remember him using Sydney Greenstreet and Bogart
and a
> few others actors likenesses in at least one story he drew and I'm
> pretty sure there were other occasions where he did it as well.
>
> Neil
>

>

He certainly did and the Phantom issue was great although like
most Charltons badly printed. I think the one you remember Neil is
issue 70 from '76 which is a parody of the Maltese Falcon and
Casablanca.
There's a great tribute site for Newton WWW.donnewton.com
It breaks down his career by company and features this work quite a
lot on the Charlton page. ( it also shows off his great cover
paintings including a comparison between an original painting and
Charltons printed version...not pretty ) The sites certainly worth a
view. A painted Newton apes cover would have been something...
Best Graham.
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Group: potadg Message: 40087 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/12/2006
Subject: Re: Favorite Ape artists
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-- Thanks Graham, that sounds like the one I was thinking about. I have a nagging memory of another story as well that used well known people but I could very well be remembering wrong. I'll have an excuse to go through my Frew Phantoms, they reprinted a few of the Charlton strips (in black and white and cleaned up) and they looked fantastic, my favourite Phantom comics by far.
Great site, the Don Newton one, I did know about it but hadn't been to it for ages and it has been fun going through it again!
 
It's interesting (and makes this a bit on-topic) that the reason the Charlton comics were poorer quality print and in fact were issued at all is that they were from a "family owned company out of Derby CT that published comics because it was cheaper than letting the printing presses they owned sit dormant" is exactly the same reason the Australian (Newton) Planet of the Apes comics were produced, around the same time as that Newton Phantom came out as well.
 
A Don Newton Apes cover would have been something very special, I'm sure, some of those Phantom covers were Brilliant.
 
Neil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
Sent: Thursday, 13 July 2006 7:47 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Favorite Ape artists

He certainly did and the Phantom issue was great although like
most Charltons badly printed. I think the one you remember Neil is
issue 70 from '76 which is a parody of the Maltese Falcon and
Casablanca.
There's a great tribute site for Newton WWW.donnewton. com
It breaks down his career by company and features this work quite a
lot on the Charlton page. ( it also shows off his great cover
paintings including a comparison between an original painting and
Charltons printed version...not pretty ) The sites certainly worth a
view. A painted Newton apes cover would have been something...

.

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Group: potadg Message: 40088 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 7/12/2006
Subject: Re: Pendreigh vs Heston
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James doesn't even remember Pendreigh.
Claim he hasn't even seen his book, and
that it must have been before his time.
 
 
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Group: potadg Message: 40089 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 7/12/2006
Subject: Re: Favorite Ape artists
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In a message dated 7/12/2006 1:53:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mlccougar@... writes:
I mean I am basing it on the same fact that politicians can be drawn as in political commentary without retribution against the artists, I am guessing that since they were doing a satire of APES then all was fair game...
 
Parody and Satire are covered under fair use.
 
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Group: potadg Message: 40090 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/13/2006
Subject: Re: Favorite Ape artists
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.html In a message dated 7/12/06 9:34:49 PM Central Daylight Time, TZer0@... writes:


Parody and Satire are covered under fair use.


Exactly, that is what I was getting at, and you said it better than I...
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Group: potadg Message: 40091 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 7/13/2006
Subject: Re: Favorite Ape artists
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In a message dated 7/13/2006 12:06:43 A.M. Central Daylight Time, mlccougar@... writes:

In a message dated 7/12/06 9:34:49 PM Central Daylight Time, TZer0@... writes:


Parody and Satire are covered under fair use.


Exactly, that is what I was getting at, and you said it better than I...
 
I had yet another Copyright Law class last Fall.
 
 
 
 
 
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Group: potadg Message: 40092 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 7/13/2006
Subject: Re: {Disarmed} Re: [PotaDG] Pendreigh vs Heston
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  There's plenty of good books about POTA now (and no interest from the public or publishers). I know! I'll write a book about "Star Wars". Has that been covered yet? :)    - - - Jeff
 
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Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 5:12 PM
Subject: RE: {Disarmed} Re: [PotaDG] Pendreigh vs Heston

-- Yeah isn't it about time that you wrote a POTA book Jeff? Surely with your contacts, knowledge and writing skills it would be a must read for us lot.
 
Neil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Wednesday, 12 July 2006 7:28 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: {Disarmed} Re: [PotaDG] Pendreigh vs Heston

IÂ’d buy YOUR book too Jeff!

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Group: potadg Message: 40093 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 7/13/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2233
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  Kirk teaching a bunch of apes to play soccer?! You're right, that is ridiculous. At least they didn't talk. That would've totally blown the credibility. - - - Jeff
 
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Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:06 PM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Digest Number 2233


>Posted by: "Graham Hill" shop@amgrafcomics. co.uk hill19652000
>Date: Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:50 am (PDT)
> I think this has to be put in some kind of historical context.
>In '75 the only Star Trek comics had been the Gold Key versions
>where such things as the Enterprise landing on planets were common.

Actually, four years' worth of weekly Star Trek comic strips were
also published around that time, from 1969 to '73, but what you say
about Gold Key was also true of the strips, which were WILDLY
inaccurate artwise and even more ridiculous from a writing
standpoint. One of the earlier stories actually ended with Kirk
teaching a bunch of apes to play soccer! And most of the stories had
Spock saying things like "Great Galaxies!" and "Leaping Novas!" and
"Great Golly!"

Also published in 1975 were a series of Star Trek comic books from
Power Records, which were just plain ridiculous. Uhura was a white
woman, Sulu was black and M'ress (from the animateds) was a human
with blue skin.

And let's not forget Marvel's first Star Trek series, only a few
years later, which featured the Star Trek crew meeting space-faring
gnomes and Count Dracula, and which featured that infamous cover of a
bloodthirsty Spock holding a weapon, with the slogan "Spock...the Barbarian!"

So yeah...Star Trek has definitely had its share of Adventure
Comics-like crap. :)

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Group: potadg Message: 40094 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 7/13/2006
Subject: Re: Pendreigh vs Heston
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  I'd buy a POTA book if it was written by Ann Coulter. Buying POTA books is my life!  - - - Jeff
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:44 AM
Subject: [PotaDG] Pendreigh vs Heston

Yup.

I disagree with a lot of PatrickÂ’s ideas but I respect and admire his efforts.

Michael

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Wednesday, 12 July 2006 3:29 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: {Disarmed} Re: {Disarmed} Re: [PotaDG] Pendreigh vs Heston

In a message dated 7/11/2006 7:41:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:

IÂ’d buy YOUR book too Jeff!

Would you buy Patrick's book?


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Group: potadg Message: 40095 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 7/13/2006
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  The only explanation I can think of for the Gold Key comic is that that was an official tie-in to the movie, published when "Beneath" came out. So maybe they had the rights to likenesses (it's helping to promote that movie). The POTA magazine was done after the fact, not promoting a specific movie Heston was in. Or maybe lawyer hell just got more sophisticated in the '70's. - - - Jeff
 
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Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Favorite Ape artists

As far as the GOLD-KEY comic, that is a very good question... That's something I'd like to know  the answer to myself...

But, as far as the MAD Magazine goes, I am gonna GUESS that because it was done as a parody there's not much he could do about it... I mean I am basing it on the same fact that politicians can be drawn as in political commentary without retribution against the artists, I am guessing that since they were doing a satire of APES then all was fair game...



In a message dated 7/12/06 9:56:57 AM Central Daylight Time, patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:


And what about the MAD magazine
parody, "The Planet That Went Ape" -- THEY used Heston's likeness and
I've never heard anything about them gettin' into trouble for it. Did
these nit-pickin' contractual details get written AFTER these works
were printed? Did Heston have to give his OK for Mad Magazine and the
Gold Key BENEATH adaptation, or did they just do them and hope
Heston's lawyers wouldn't notice?


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Group: potadg Message: 40096 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/13/2006
Subject: Pendreigh vs Heston
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Ann Coulter is a right-wing Nazi BITCH!!!!  I'd like to see Dr. Zaius give her the treatment BIG TIME!
 
-- Rory 
 
 
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To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Pendreigh vs Heston

  I'd buy a POTA book if it was written by Ann Coulter. Buying POTA books is my life!  - - - Jeff
 
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Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:44 AM
Subject: [PotaDG] Pendreigh vs Heston

Yup.
I disagree with a lot of Patrick's ideas but I respect and admire his efforts.
Michael
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Subject: {Disarmed} Re: {Disarmed} Re: [PotaDG] Pendreigh vs Heston
In a message dated 7/11/2006 7:41:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:
I'd buy YOUR book too Jeff!
Would you buy Patrick's book?

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Group: potadg Message: 40097 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/13/2006
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I might have to draw the line there.........she'd probably blame the destruction of the earth on 911 widows......

veetus@... wrote:
  I'd buy a POTA book if it was written by Ann Coulter. Buying POTA books is my life!  - - - Jeff
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 12:44 AM
Subject: [PotaDG] Pendreigh vs Heston

Yup.
I disagree with a lot of PatrickÂ’s ideas but I respect and admire his efforts.
Michael
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Subject: {Disarmed} Re: {Disarmed} Re: [PotaDG] Pendreigh vs Heston
In a message dated 7/11/2006 7:41:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:
IÂ’d buy YOUR book too Jeff!
Would you buy Patrick's book?

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Group: potadg Message: 40098 From: Graham Hill Date: 7/13/2006
Subject: Re: Favorite Ape artists
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>

> It's interesting (and makes this a bit on-topic) that the reason
the
> Charlton comics were poorer quality print and in fact were issued
at all
> is that they were from a "family owned company out of Derby CT that
> published comics because it was cheaper than letting the printing
> presses they owned sit dormant" is exactly the same reason the
> Australian (Newton) Planet of the Apes comics were produced,
around the
> same time as that Newton Phantom came out as well.
>
> A Don Newton Apes cover would have been something very special, I'm
> sure, some of those Phantom covers were Brilliant.
>
> Neil
>
> I seem to remember reading somewhere that if Charlton's presses
were stopped they HAD to be cleaned, which meant that they were idle
for more than a week !!! factor in all the staff costs you can see
why they'd want too keep them running.
The Don Newton site is great and what I find fascinating is all his
early 70's fan work, nothing goes away, some times it seems like
people aren't watching or bothered but people do take note...even if
it doesn't seem like it at the time.
Best wishes Graham.
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Group: potadg Message: 40099 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 7/13/2006
Subject: Re: Pendreigh vs Heston
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In a message dated 7/13/2006 11:23:22 A.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:
Ann Coulter is a right-wing Nazi BITCH!!!! 
 
 
Like being a left-wing Commie Bitch would somehow be better.
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Group: potadg Message: 40100 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/13/2006
Subject: Re: Pendreigh vs Heston
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.html In a message dated 7/13/06 9:52:32 AM Central Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:


I'd buy a POTA book if it was written by Ann Coulter


I'd like a POTA book written by Rory... Seriously!
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Group: potadg Message: 40101 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 7/14/2006
Subject: Re: Pendreigh vs Heston
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In a message dated 7/13/2006 9:24:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mlccougar@... writes:
I'd like a POTA book written by Rory... Seriously!
 
It'd be a good read if nothing else.
Pat could take a writing lesson or two from him.
Rory can make nearly anything interesting. Whereas
Patrick has managed to make one of the subjects I'm
most interested in, BORING!  I would have though it impossible.
I get about a page into his posts and my eyes glaze over, my brain
melts, and it turns into the written equivalent of an adult talking in Charlie Brown.
 
 
 
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Group: potadg Message: 40102 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/14/2006
Subject: Re: question for Rory
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Did you ever belong to and possibly write an "article"
for the Roddy McDowall Fan Club many many years ago?

Tim

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Group: potadg Message: 40103 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/14/2006
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 I don't remember that, but maybe....  What year are we talking about?  I remember a POTA Fan Club in the seventies that I wrote something for.
 
-- Rory
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: apefan23@...
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] question for Rory

Did you ever belong to and possibly write an "article"
for the Roddy McDowall Fan Club many many years ago?

Tim

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Group: potadg Message: 40104 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/14/2006
Subject: Re: question for Rory
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Isn't your last name Monteith? I was digging through
stuff and found newsletters from the Roddy McDowall
fan club started by a Patrick White (does anyone know
him?) and in the back of the initial mailing booklet
was an 'article' titled "Roddy McDowall: An Ape to
remember" by Rory Monteith!

--- Haristas@... wrote:

> I don't remember that, but maybe.... What year are
> we talking about? I remember a POTA Fan Club in the
> seventies that I wrote something for.
>
> -- Rory
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: apefan23@...
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 11:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] question for Rory
>
>
> Did you ever belong to and possibly write an
> "article"
> for the Roddy McDowall Fan Club many many years ago?
>
> Tim
>
>
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Group: potadg Message: 40105 From: Rich Handley Date: 7/14/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2236
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>Posted by: " TZer0@..." TZer0@... LordTZer0
>Ann Coulter is a right-wing Nazi BITCH!!!!
>Like being a left-wing Commie Bitch would somehow be better.

I can't stand Coulter, but I have to say -- if I were going to be a
bitch, being a left-wing Commie would be INFINITELY preferable to
being a right-wing Nazi.

That said...I'm happy not to be a bitch under either wing.
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Group: potadg Message: 40106 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/15/2006
Subject: Question for Rory
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Sounds like Rory is really FOND of the old Roddster!   ;)

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Saturday, 15 July 2006 6:33 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: {Disarmed} Re: [PotaDG] Re: question for Rory

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Group: potadg Message: 40107 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/15/2006
Subject: Re: Question for Rory
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.html.html In a message dated 7/15/06 7:41:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:


Isn't your last name Monteith? I was digging through
stuff and found newsletters from the Roddy McDowall
fan club started by a Patrick White (does anyone know
him?) and in the back of the initial mailing booklet
was an 'article' titled "Roddy McDowall: An Ape to
remember" by Rory Monteith!


I must have wrote it then!  I have no memory of it!  Mmmm.... wonder what I wrote?!!!

-- Rory
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Group: potadg Message: 40108 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 7/15/2006
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2236
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In a message dated 7/14/2006 11:48:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, handleyr@... writes:
if I were going to be a
bitch, being a left-wing Commie would be INFINITELY preferable to
being a right-wing Nazi.
 
There is NO difference.
Who cares WHAT the
ideology is if it's forced
on people with totalitarian
tactics?  They both suck.
 
 
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Group: potadg Message: 40109 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/16/2006
Subject: Cheap Head!
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Planet Of The Apes – Ultimate Edition (14 Disc Ape Head) (785586)
Price Reduction! - Pre-Order Now - Available Monday, 17 July 2006
$
AU199.83 (inc GST) Currency Converter International Price

 

The ape head has been reduced to $200 AUS which is the equivalent to $140 US.

 

http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/785586

 

Now....how to tell if these have been given the same treatment as their US counterparts....hmmm...

 

Michael

 

 

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Group: potadg Message: 40110 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/16/2006
Subject: Re: Cheap Head!
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.html.html In a message dated 7/16/06 1:45:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:


Now....how to tell if these have been given the same treatment as their US counterparts....hmmm...




Michael



Make sure they have a return policy before you buy them?

-- Rory
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Group: potadg Message: 40111 From: veetus@earthlink.net Date: 7/17/2006
Subject: OT: "Star Trek' cartoons coming
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 Thought I'd wrap this up since this was a topic when we were debating whether the "Ape" cartoons would get a release.  www.tvshowsondvd.com
reports that the "Star Trek" cartoons from the '70's will be on DVD Nov. 21st. A while back when these were first announced some thought it would lead to the "Ape" cartoons getting an official release. Instead, "Apes" beat it to the punch. Well, kinda, since they're still only available in the "Ultimate Collection". "Trek" isn't a trick, all 22 eps are being released in a set. Nothing else to buy. Time to do the Vulcan Hustle. - - - Jeff
 
 
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Group: potadg Message: 40112 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/17/2006
Subject: Re: OT: "Star Trek' cartoons coming
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Group: potadg Message: 40113 From: Dario Sciola Date: 7/17/2006
Subject: Something I came across
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Group: potadg Message: 40114 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/18/2006
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
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Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
group.

File : /Members' Art gallery/values cover art 02.jpg
Uploaded by : munkeyman63au <ntfoster@...>
Description : painting for the Audio CD - Values

You can access this file at the URL:
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Regards,

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Group: potadg Message: 40115 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/18/2006
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    -- This second one is a section of a cover (a Mad type parody/tribute) that was painted for a Simian Scrolls Action Figure special that sadly hasn't happened yet:
     
     
    Neil
     
    > Have you done any paintings
    > such as other POTA portrait
    > artists have done? 
    I'd love to
    > see them posted if you have.
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 40116 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/18/2006
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    -- That is a little bit scary!
     
    Neil
     
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dario Sciola
    Sent: Tuesday, 18 July 2006 4:23 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Something I came across

    .

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    Group: potadg Message: 40117 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 7/18/2006
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    Hello,

    This email message is a notification to let you know that
    a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
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    Group: potadg Message: 40118 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/18/2006
    Subject: Re: OT: "Star Trek' cartoons coming
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    -- Me for one!
     
    Neil
     
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    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
    Sent: Tuesday, 18 July 2006 1:37 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: "Star Trek' cartoons coming

    This news is pretty cool to read... I'm sure there are a few on here who will be glad to hear it as well... Thanks for the heads up...

    .

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    Group: potadg Message: 40119 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/18/2006
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      -- Here are those 3 paintings I mentioned doing. I have just recently re-scanned the originals or good copies of the originals where I no longer have them. This first one is the painting for the Audio CD - Values:
       
       
      Neil
       
      > Have you done any paintings
      > such as other POTA portrait
      > artists have done? 
      I'd love to
      > see them posted if you have.
       
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      Hello,

      This email message is a notification to let you know that
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      Group: potadg Message: 40121 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/18/2006
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        -- This last one is the original painting for the Beware the Beast poster:
         
         
        Neil
         
        > Have you done any paintings
        > such as other POTA portrait
        > artists have done? 
        I'd love to
        > see them posted if you have.
         
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        Group: potadg Message: 40122 From: Neil Date: 7/18/2006
        Subject: Re: Pendreigh vs Heston
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        Then the solution must be to have a book co-written by both Patrick
        and Rory! ;-)

        Neil

        --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, TZer0@... wrote:
        > It'd be a good read if nothing else.
        > Pat could take a writing lesson or two from him.
        > Rory can make nearly anything interesting. Whereas
        > Patrick has managed to make one of the subjects I'm
        > most interested in, BORING! I would have though it impossible.
        > I get about a page into his posts and my eyes glaze over, my brain
        > melts, and it turns into the written equivalent of an adult talking in
        > Charlie Brown.
        >
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        Group: potadg Message: 40123 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 7/19/2006
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        In a message dated 7/18/2006 10:17:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:

        Then the solution must be to have a book co-written by both Patrick
        and Rory! ;-)

         
        There you go!
        Okay guys . . . Get started!
         
         
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        Group: potadg Message: 40124 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/19/2006
        Subject: Re: {Disarmed} [PotaDG] Paintings
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          Is that Alan?

           

          -----Original Message-----
          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
          Sent: Wednesday, 19 July 2006 9:51 AM
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: {Disarmed} [PotaDG] Paintings

           

          -- Here are those 3 paintings I mentioned doing. I have just recently re-scanned the originals or good copies of the originals where I no longer have them. This first one is the painting for the Audio CD - Values:

           

           

          Neil

           

          > Have you done any paintings

          > such as other POTA portrait
          > artists have done?  I'd love to
          > see them posted if you have.

           


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          Group: potadg Message: 40125 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 7/19/2006
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          Marvel UK issue 92 is now available on Hunter's site. It features another exciting chapter in the Terror storyline: "Escape From Mt. Rushmore!" Everybody get your berry bombs ready, it's going to be a wild one. There is also a letter column.
           
           
          Greg
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          Group: potadg Message: 40126 From: Graham Hill Date: 7/19/2006
          Subject: Re: Paintings
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          --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
          >
          > -- This last one is the original painting for the Beware the Beast
          > poster:
          >
          >
          >
          After at least four attempts Yahoo lets me see Neils paintings !!!
          (I blame it on the weather the UKs gone a bit mental with all the
          heat!)
          Great to see these Neil, I'd seen the Scrolls cover before the same
          with the Beast poster. I also recall an other version of this where
          the colours were much more smoothed out, I do prefer this one, always
          like to see evidence of the artist hand (thats a shock, I know :) )
          The Alan pic was new to me, very Da Vinci :) and purple to boot,I've
          said it before you can't have to much purple!!
          Best Graham.
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          Group: potadg Message: 40127 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/19/2006
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          -- That's correct.
           
          Neil
           
          -----Original Message-----
          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
          Sent: Wednesday, 19 July 2006 6:46 PM
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: RE: {Disarmed} [PotaDG] Paintings

          Is that Alan?

          .

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          Group: potadg Message: 40128 From: Neil Date: 7/19/2006
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          -- As usual, thanks Greg. One question though- is there a reason the
          file sizes have more than doubled for the last couple of issues
          compared to how they had been up until now?

          --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@...> wrote:
          > Marvel UK issue 92 is now available on Hunter's site. It features
          another exciting chapter in the Terror storyline: "Escape From Mt.
          Rushmore!" Everybody get your berry bombs ready, it's going to be a
          wild one. There is also a letter column.
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          Group: potadg Message: 40129 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/19/2006
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          -- Yes it was meant to have a subtle religious 'look' to it. That cover
          was painted after the basic idea was given to me by Dave Ballard (who
          wrote Values). Dave pretty much wanted the cover to feature Alan
          'inside' the time machine of the story (and to hint at a religious type
          of pose) and specifically didn't want any apes on the cover. I can't
          remember the exact reason why now after all this time, it may have been
          for copyright reasons or something but I was told at the time that they
          had another cover that did feature apes, painted by a different artist,
          ready to go but it was rejected and I was asked to do the art for the
          whole thing.

          This cover has also been said by some people to have something in common
          with the time machine from Quantum Leap but I wouldn't know about that
          not being a keen observer of that show. I do remember reading somewhere
          Dave Ballard hinting that the machine in Values was slightly inspired by
          QL, not sure how true that would be though.

          Neil


          > -----Original Message-----
          > From: Dario Sciola [darios@...]
          > Sent: Wednesday, 19 July 2006 11:17 PM
          > To: Neil T Foster
          > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Paintings
          >
          >
          >
          > Alfred E. Neuman would be proud!
          >
          > Now a question about the 'Values' CD art. Was it a conscious
          > decision
          > not to have any apr displayed? I think there was some mention when it
          > first came out that the image was intended to capture the religious
          > aspect or something like that. As someone who likes to
          > promote apes, I
          > always felt that the CD art can be easily misinterpreted based on the
          > cover art alone. In other words, unless someone already knew this was
          > POTA, the casual observer would have no idea. Again, perhaps
          > there was
          > some reason to do it this way.
          >
          > Dario
          >
          > ----- Original Message -----
          > From: Neil T Foster <ntfoster@...>
          > Date: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 7:58 pm
          > Subject: [PotaDG] Paintings
          >
          > >-- This second one is a section of a cover (a Mad type
          > parody/tribute) that was >painted for a Simian Scrolls Action Figure
          > special that sadly hasn't happened yet:
          >
          >
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          Group: potadg Message: 40130 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/19/2006
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          -- Thanks Graham. Yeah Yahoo has been pretty shocking lately and I am still having posts show up on the group in the wrong order or hours late!
           
          The Alan picture was done for the guys at Scrolls for their audio CD 'Values' that came out a couple of years ago. It was meant to have a subtle, slightly 'religious' look to it and you're right, I agree, one can never have enough purple in a painting! ;-)
           
          Neil
           
          -----Original Message-----
          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
          Sent: Thursday, 20 July 2006 6:03 AM
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Paintings

          --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@.. .> wrote:
          >After at least four attempts Yahoo lets me see Neils paintings !!!
          (I blame it on the weather the UKs gone a bit mental with all the
          heat!)
          Great to see these Neil, I'd seen the Scrolls cover before the same
          with the Beast poster. I also recall an other version of this where
          the colours were much more smoothed out, I do prefer this one, always
          like to see evidence of the artist hand (thats a shock, I know :) )
          The Alan pic was new to me, very Da Vinci :) and purple to boot,I've
          said it before you can't have to much purple!!

          .

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          Group: potadg Message: 40131 From: gp3085 Date: 7/19/2006
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          Well, it appears to be an error on my part. For last issue, this issue
          and next issue I apparently built the PDFs from the higher-resolution
          TIFFs rather than the lower-resolution jpegs. I'll get those fixed and
          posted to Hunter as soon as I can.

          Thanks for letting me know. The files for next week were going to be
          huge what with the added pages for the extra feature that starts next
          week.

          Greg

          --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
          >
          > -- As usual, thanks Greg. One question though- is there a reason the
          > file sizes have more than doubled for the last couple of issues
          > compared to how they had been up until now?
          >
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            www.tvshowsondvd.com says BCI will release the sci-fi show "Space Academy" on DVD in 2007. This starred Jonathan (Dr. Smith) Harris and young Eric Greene as the alien Loki, "everybody's mascot". Back then Eric was just another POTA fan like you and me. It would be 20 more years before he would become the vessel through whom the light of POTA would shine. Looks like there will be extras, maybe the kind of quality Eric Greene extras that POTA fans know well.  Loki action figure not included. - - - Jeff
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          Group: potadg Message: 40133 From: Greg Plonowski Date: 7/20/2006
          Subject: Return release on DVD - October 3rd
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          According to www.tvshowsonDVD.com, Fox will release the Return series in a two-disc set on 10/3. You can see the story and the packaging at this link:
           
           
          What's interesting is the final line of the story, which mentions "bonus materials" - episode previews for all episodes except "Flames of Doom" (the first episode, which makes sense). The discs in the Ultimate set don't contain these previews, so these sound like new discs. Of course, we've been fooled by this sort of trick before.
           
          Greg
           
           
           
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          Group: potadg Message: 40134 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/20/2006
          Subject: Return release on DVD - October 3rd
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          Thanks Greg.

           

          The cover looks way cool!

          Michael

           

          -----Original Message-----
          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Plonowski
          Sent: Friday, 21 July 2006 5:27 AM
          To: potadg@yahoogroups.com; pota@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: {Disarmed} [PotaDG] Return release on DVD - October 3rd

           

          According to www.tvshowsonDVD.com, Fox will release the Return series in a two-disc set on 10/3. You can see the story and the packaging at this link:

           

           

          What's interesting is the final line of the story, which mentions "bonus materials" - episode previews for all episodes except "Flames of Doom" (the first episode, which makes sense). The discs in the Ultimate set don't contain these previews, so these sound like new discs. Of course, we've been fooled by this sort of trick before.

           

          Greg


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          Subject: Re: Return release on DVD - October 3rd
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          -- Thanks for the info Greg.

          Neil

          --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@...> wrote:
          >
          > According to www.tvshowsonDVD.com, Fox will release the Return
          series in a two-disc set on 10/3. You can see the story and the
          packaging at this link:
          >
          > http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=6088
          >
          > What's interesting is the final line of the story, which mentions
          "bonus materials" - episode previews for all episodes except "Flames
          of Doom" (the first episode, which makes sense). The discs in the
          Ultimate set don't contain these previews, so these sound like new
          discs. Of course, we've been fooled by this sort of trick before.
          >
          > Greg
          >
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          Group: potadg Message: 40136 From: Neil Date: 7/20/2006
          Subject: Re: Return release on DVD - October 3rd
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          -- Wonder if we will get it released down here?

          Neil

          --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
          >
          > Thanks Greg.
          >
          > The cover looks way cool!
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          Group: potadg Message: 40137 From: Neil Date: 7/20/2006
          Subject: Re: Return release on DVD - October 3rd
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          -- I like it.

          Neil

          --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
          > The cover looks way cool!
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          Group: potadg Message: 40138 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/20/2006
          Subject: Linda Harrison cards
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          -- Did anyone here ever get a set of those limited edition Linda Harrison cards. I think they had bits of costume on a couple of the cards or something. I don't remember the name of the company that put them out though. I wonder if they sold out?
           
          Neil
           
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          Group: potadg Message: 40139 From: gp3085 Date: 7/20/2006
          Subject: Re: Linda Harrison cards
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          I have one of those sets. Rittenhouse is the name of the company. The
          set sold out from them (as did their Heston set). At least, if you try
          to buy it from their site it tells you the sets are unavailable to buy
          direct from them

          Here's a link to the Rittenhouse site:

          http://www.scifihobby.com/

          Greg

          --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
          >
          > -- Did anyone here ever get a set of those limited edition Linda
          > Harrison cards. I think they had bits of costume on a couple of the
          > cards or something. I don't remember the name of the company that put
          > them out though. I wonder if they sold out?
          >
          > Neil
          >
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          Group: potadg Message: 40140 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 7/20/2006
          Subject: Re: Linda Harrison cards
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          .html Yes, I bought a set of them off of eBay...

          2 of them had fabric bits (green slave jumpsuit and orangutan outfit)... They were by Rittenhouse...



          In a message dated 7/20/06 5:56:52 PM Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:


          -- Did anyone here ever get a set of those limited edition Linda Harrison cards. I think they had bits of costume on a couple of the cards or something.


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          Group: potadg Message: 40141 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 7/21/2006
          Subject: Chris Hight on ebay?
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          Is that what this is? GREAT PRICE!!!


          VERY UNIQUE CORNELIUS! CUSTOM MADE!!!
          Item number: 200007923611

          Tim

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          Group: potadg Message: 40142 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/21/2006
          Subject: Chris Hight on ebay?
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          Thanks Tim – I’m bidding on it now!

          The quality of this and all of Chris Hight’s stuff craps all over Sideshow!

          Michael

           

          -----Original Message-----
          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim &quo

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          Group: potadg Message: 40143 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/21/2006
          Subject: Re: Chris Hight on ebay?
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          .html.html In a message dated 7/21/06 7:31:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:


          Thanks Tim – I'm bidding on it now!



          The quality of this and all of Chris Hight's stuff craps all over Sideshow!

          Michael







          How about a link to this?
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          Group: potadg Message: 40144 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/21/2006
          Subject: Chris Hight on ebay?
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          Group: potadg Message: 40145 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/22/2006
          Subject: Re: Linda Harrison cards
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          -- Well if they did indeed sell out that is good news at least.
           
          Neil
           
          -----Original Message-----
          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gp3085
          Sent: Friday, 21 July 2006 9:23 AM
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Linda Harrison cards

          I have one of those sets. Rittenhouse is the name of the company. The
          set sold out from them (as did their Heston set). At least, if you try
          to buy it from their site it tells you the sets are unavailable to buy
          direct from them

          Here's a link to the Rittenhouse site:

          http://www.scifihob by.com/

          .

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          Group: potadg Message: 40146 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/22/2006
          Subject: FW: [yg-alerts] Digest Number 8
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          Group: potadg Message: 40147 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/22/2006
          Subject: Re: Chris Hight on ebay?
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          -- Very nice. Chris does quality work that has that personal touch. I am proud to own at least one of his figures, the first Gideon that he made, wonderful.
           
          Neil
           
          -----Original Message-----
          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
          Sent: Saturday, 22 July 2006 8:11 AM
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [PotaDG] Chris Hight on ebay?

          Is that what this is? GREAT PRICE!!!

          VERY UNIQUE CORNELIUS! CUSTOM MADE!!!
          Item number: 200007923611

          .

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          Group: potadg Message: 40148 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/22/2006
          Subject: Re: Chris Hight on ebay?
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          -- Speaking of Chris reminds me that I have done at least one more POTA painting as well as the 3 mentioned recently.
          It was the art for boxes that he was going to use for the figures, it was originally planned to be a full box with no see through window part and the painting was done in a way so that it joined up when 'wrapped around' so it was one continual picture! I do know that idea was eventually scrapped and it had been decided to have a window on the boxes and adapt the art work to it in a different way than originally planned. I'm not sure about the progress on the boxes though.
           
          Neil
           
          -----Original Message-----
          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
          Sent: Saturday, 22 July 2006 9:30 AM
          To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
          Subject: [PotaDG] Chris Hight on ebay?

          Thanks Tim – I’m bidding on it now!

          The quality of this and all of Chris Hight’s stuff  (word edited out as it may cause offence and you never know who might be watching) all over Sideshow!

          .

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          Group: potadg Message: 40149 From: Neil Date: 7/22/2006
          Subject: Re: Linda Harrison cards
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          -- Hope you didn't have to pay too much! How do you feel about the
          fabric cards, were they worth cutting up costumes for?

          Neil

          --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
          > Yes, I bought a set of them off of eBay...
          > 2 of them had fabric bits (green slave jumpsuit and orangutan
          outfit)... They were by Rittenhouse...
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          Group: potadg Message: 40150 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/22/2006
          Subject: Re: {Disarmed} RE: [PotaDG] Re: Linda Harrison cards
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          Dunno – I went to the site and they still give the option to purchase them.....

           

          -----Original Message-----
          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil T Fo

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          Group: potadg Message: 40151 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/22/2006
          Subject: Comment by Author Robert J Sawyer!
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            Monday, April 03, 2006

            Planet of the Apes ultimate DVD collection



            Got it!

            The ape head package is quite large; maybe 3/4 lifesize. Look at the picture above, with the DVDs in front -- that gives you an idea of the scale. The head is well made, but to me it just doesn't look like Caesar; the likeness in the much, much smaller (6" body height) Medicom Caesar figure is a lot closer. Still, it's impressive. I bought this in Canada from a Canadian source [Costco, Canadian$149], and the packaging here says that 2,000 sets, with their own run of limited serial numbers, have been produced for the Canadian market -- on top of the 10,000 for the U.S., so this isn't quite as rare as Fox is making it out to be.

            (Given that the population ratio of Canada to the US is 10:1, it's interesting that they chose to do a 5:1 ratio for runs of this product -- it implies that they think PLANET OF THE APES is twice as popular on a per capita basis in Canada as it is in the U.S.)

            The set has the additional footage for BATTLE that's not been seen in a North American DVD release before, but it's still missing the prologue that was filmed but never shown from ESCAPE (Cornelius, Zira, and Milo in the cockpit of Taylor's ship). I emailed my friend Eric Greene, who included a still from that scene in the trade-paperback edition of his wonderful PLANET OF THE APES AS AMERICAN MYTH (Eric's text commentary also appears on the POTA DVD in this set) to see if that footage still exists; he says he's never seen any sign that it still does, sad to say -- the still may be the only thing that's survived.

            Anyway, a cool collectible, and I'm glad I bought it.

             

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            Group: potadg Message: 40152 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/22/2006
            Subject: Re: Chris Hight on ebay?
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            .html.html In a message dated 7/21/06 10:07:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:


            http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200007923611&ru=http://search.ebay.com:80/200007923611_W0QQfromZR40QQfviZ1


            I don't think that looks any better than Sideshow's.

            -- Rory
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            Group: potadg Message: 40153 From: gp3085 Date: 7/22/2006
            Subject: {Disarmed} RE: [PotaDG] Re: Linda Harrison cards
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            Yes, "Buy It Now" still appears next to each set, but if you actually
            click on that, you get a message that says "No longer available
            direct. Please contact your local dealer." So you can't buy sets
            anymore from Rittenhouse, but dealers may still have them available.

            Greg

            --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
            >
            > Dunno - I went to the site and they still give the option to purchase
            > them.....
            >
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            Group: potadg Message: 40154 From: its the who??? Date: 7/22/2006
            Subject: Re: Chris Hight on ebay?
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            To be totally frank it doesn't look
             
            ----- Original Message -----
            Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 3:18 PM
            Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Chris Hight on ebay?

            In a message dated 7/21/06 10:07:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, whitty@... writes:


            http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200007923611&ru=http://search.ebay.com:80/200007923611_W0QQfromZR40QQfviZ1


            I don't think that looks any better than Sideshow's.

            -- Rory
             
            To be totally honest i gotta agree.
             

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            Group: potadg Message: 40155 From: Chris Hight Date: 7/22/2006
            Subject: Re: Chris Hight on ebay?
            .html
            The figure on ebay looks like a Cornelius I made early on. As the years went by the figures became much more accurate. I have a custom Lucius figure that will knock your gorilla boots off. 
             
            Neil--send me your address one more time. I have your box finished and I'll send it to you.


            How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! MessengerÂ’s low PC-to-Phone call rates.
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            Group: potadg Message: 40156 From: Robert J. Sawyer Date: 7/22/2006
            Subject: Re: Comment by Author Robert J Sawyer!
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            Thanks for posting that, Michael. I'm now here in the flesh. :)

            The picture that goes with the commentary can be seen in my blog:

            http://www.sfwriter.com/2006/04/planet-of-apes-ultimate-dvd-collection.html"

            All best wishes.

            Rob


            ----------------
            ROBERT J. SAWYER, Science Fiction Writer

            Hugo Award winner for HOMINIDS
            Nebula Award winner for THE TERMINAL EXPERIMENT
            John W. Campbell Memorial Award winner for MINDSCAN

            http://www.sfwriter.com * sawyer@...
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            Group: potadg Message: 40157 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/22/2006
            Subject: Question for Author Robert J Sawyer!
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            Hi Robert!

             

            It’s great to have you on board!

            We do have many aspiring writers here and most of them have posted stories on the Fan-Fic site.

             

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            Group: potadg Message: 40158 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 7/23/2006
            Subject: Re: Chris Hight on ebay?
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            In a message dated 7/22/2006 1:24:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:

            -- Very nice. Chris does quality work that has that personal touch. I am proud to own at least one of his figures, the first Gideon that he made, wonderful.
             
            Does he still make figures?
            I don't see anything current on the Net.
             
            T
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            Group: potadg Message: 40159 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/23/2006
            Subject: Chris Hight on ebay?
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            I’m not sure.

             

            The last one I bought from Chris was JULIUS.  I have a GIDEON too and I’ll be keeping both of these!

            Michael

             

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            Group: potadg Message: 40160 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/23/2006
            Subject: Neil Foster on Chris Hight?
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            Neil,

             

            How did you go with the head you were sculpting?

            Michael

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            Group: potadg Message: 40161 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/23/2006
            Subject: Re: {Disarmed} RE: [PotaDG] Re: Linda Harrison cards
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            -- so I wonder how many dealers have them then? I haven't noticed many on ebay but then again I haven't really been looking for them.
             
            Neil
             
            -----Original Message-----
            From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gp3085
            Sent: Sunday, 23 July 2006 1:25 AM
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: {Disarmed} RE: [PotaDG] Re: Linda Harrison cards

            Yes, "Buy It Now" still appears next to each set, but if you actually
            click on that, you get a message that says "No longer available
            direct. Please contact your local dealer." So you can't buy sets
            anymore from Rittenhouse, but dealers may still have them available.

            .

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            Group: potadg Message: 40162 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/23/2006
            Subject: Re: Chris Hight on ebay?
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            -- Okay, I'll contact you off list Chris. Does anyone know how much it eventually sold for? Did anyone here bid on it or win it?
             
            Neil
             
            -----Original Message-----
            From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hight
            Sent: Sunday, 23 July 2006 5:18 AM
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Chris Hight on ebay?

            The figure on ebay looks like a Cornelius I made early on. As the years went by the figures became much more accurate. I have a custom Lucius figure that will knock your gorilla boots off. 
             
            Neil--send me your address one more time. I have your box finished and I'll send it to you.
            .

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            Group: potadg Message: 40163 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/23/2006
            Subject: Re: Neil Foster on Chris Hight?
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            -- Umm still working on it. I was going along nicely and had it sculpted to a fairly advanced stage when I noticed a major stuff up and starting again was a better option than trying to fix up the mistakes I had already made. I will get it finished, I promise!
             
            Neil
             
            -----Original Message-----
            From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
            Sent: Sunday, 23 July 2006 7:07 PM
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: [PotaDG] Neil Foster on Chris Hight?

            Neil,

            How did you go with the head you were sculpting?

            .

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            Group: potadg Message: 40164 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/23/2006
            Subject: Re: Chris Hight on ebay?
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            -- Any pictures of the box that you could show the group Chris?
             
            Neil
             
            -----Original Message-----
            From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hight
            Sent: Sunday, 23 July 2006 5:18 AM
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Chris Hight on ebay?

            I have your box finished
            .

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            Group: potadg Message: 40165 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 7/23/2006
            Subject: Re: Chris Hight on ebay?
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                Chris,
             
            Ever do any Zira'?


            T
             
             
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            Group: potadg Message: 40166 From: Neil Date: 7/23/2006
            Subject: Re: Paintings
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            -- Speaking of Values I have just noticed that Kassidy Rae now has the
            whole thing for download on her POTA TV site.

            Neil

            --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
            >
            > -- Yes it was meant to have a subtle religious 'look' to it. That cover
            > was painted after the basic idea was given to me by Dave Ballard (who
            > wrote Values). Dave pretty much wanted the cover to feature Alan
            > 'inside' the time machine of the story (and to hint at a religious type
            > of pose) and specifically didn't want any apes on the cover. I can't
            > remember the exact reason why now after all this time, it may have been
            > for copyright reasons or something but I was told at the time that they
            > had another cover that did feature apes, painted by a different artist,
            > ready to go but it was rejected and I was asked to do the art for the
            > whole thing.
            >
            > This cover has also been said by some people to have something in common
            > with the time machine from Quantum Leap but I wouldn't know about that
            > not being a keen observer of that show. I do remember reading somewhere
            > Dave Ballard hinting that the machine in Values was slightly inspired by
            > QL, not sure how true that would be though.
            >
            > Neil
            >
            >
            > > -----Original Message-----
            > > From: Dario Sciola [darios@...]
            > > Sent: Wednesday, 19 July 2006 11:17 PM
            > > To: Neil T Foster
            > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Paintings
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > > Alfred E. Neuman would be proud!
            > >
            > > Now a question about the 'Values' CD art. Was it a conscious
            > > decision
            > > not to have any apr displayed? I think there was some mention when it
            > > first came out that the image was intended to capture the religious
            > > aspect or something like that. As someone who likes to
            > > promote apes, I
            > > always felt that the CD art can be easily misinterpreted based on the
            > > cover art alone. In other words, unless someone already knew this was
            > > POTA, the casual observer would have no idea. Again, perhaps
            > > there was
            > > some reason to do it this way.
            > >
            > > Dario
            > >
            > > ----- Original Message -----
            > > From: Neil T Foster <ntfoster@...>
            > > Date: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 7:58 pm
            > > Subject: [PotaDG] Paintings
            > >
            > > >-- This second one is a section of a cover (a Mad type
            > > parody/tribute) that was >painted for a Simian Scrolls Action Figure
            > > special that sadly hasn't happened yet:
            > >
            > >
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            Group: potadg Message: 40167 From: Neil Date: 7/23/2006
            Subject: Re: Question for Rory
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            -- Have we seen this yet?

            Neil

            --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
            >
            > In a message dated 7/15/06 7:41:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
            > whitty@... writes:
            >
            >
            > > Isn't your last name Monteith? I was digging through
            > > stuff and found newsletters from the Roddy McDowall
            > > fan club started by a Patrick White (does anyone know
            > > him?) and in the back of the initial mailing booklet
            > > was an 'article' titled "Roddy McDowall: An Ape to
            > > remember" by Rory Monteith!
            > >
            >
            > I must have wrote it then! I have no memory of it! Mmmm.... wonder
            what I
            > wrote?!!!
            >
            > -- Rory
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            Group: potadg Message: 40168 From: Neil Date: 7/23/2006
            Subject: Re: Pendreigh vs Heston
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            -- So are we going to see this?!? :-)

            Neil

            --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, TZer0@... wrote:
            >
            >
            > In a message dated 7/18/2006 10:17:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
            > ntfoster@... writes:
            >
            >
            >
            > Then the solution must be to have a book co-written by both Patrick
            > and Rory! ;-)
            >
            >
            >
            >
            >
            > There you go!
            > Okay guys . . . Get started!
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            Group: potadg Message: 40169 From: Haristas@aol.com Date: 7/23/2006
            Subject: Re: Question for Rory
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            .html.html In a message dated 7/23/06 6:57:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:


            -- Have we seen this yet?

            Neil






            Yeah, I'd like to see that too since I've forgotten writing it.

            Also.... No way I'd ever do a book with Patrick.

            -- Rory
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            Group: potadg Message: 40170 From: Neil T Foster Date: 7/23/2006
            Subject: Re: Question for Rory
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            -- Awww, think of the fun you would have!
             
            Neil
             
            -----Original Message-----
            From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Haristas@...
            Sent: Monday, 24 July 2006 9:05 AM
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Question for Rory

            No way I'd ever do a book with Patrick.
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            Group: potadg Message: 40171 From: Chris Hight Date: 7/23/2006
            Subject: Re: Chris Hight on ebay?
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            I have made Zira in the past she turned out okay. The Conquest Lisa is the figure that turned out really well.
             


            TZer0@... wrote:

                Chris,
             
            Ever do any Zira'?


            T
             
             


            Groups are talking. We´re listening. Check out the handy changes to Yahoo! Groups.

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            Group: potadg Message: 40172 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/23/2006
            Subject: Chris Hight's Custom Action Figures
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            Can we see some photos Chris?

            Michael

             

            -----Original Message-----
            From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Hight
            Sent: Monday, 24 July 2006 10:13 AM
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

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            Group: potadg Message: 40173 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/23/2006
            Subject: Anybody like to guess what this is?
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              Group: potadg Message: 40174 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 7/23/2006
              Subject: Re: Pendreigh vs Heston
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              In a message dated 7/23/2006 5:57:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:

              -- So are we going to see this?!? :-)

              Neil

               
              I'm sure we will.
              Sometime around the time we see Before POTA.  ; )
               
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              Group: potadg Message: 40175 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 7/23/2006
              Subject: Re: Chris Hight on ebay?
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              In a message dated 7/23/2006 7:16:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time, snickertown@... writes:

              I have made Zira in the past she turned out okay. The Conquest Lisa is the figure that turned out really well.
               
              Any pictures?
               
               
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              Group: potadg Message: 40176 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 7/23/2006
              Subject: Re: Question for Rory
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              In a message dated 7/23/2006 6:10:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, Haristas@... writes:
              Also.... No way I'd ever do a book with Patrick.
               
              What if it was with everyone else as well?
              Hell, we could do a POTA encyclopedia.
              The only problem is wed have to sell it to ourselves.
              After Burton a large percentage of the fans left are here.
               
               
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              Group: potadg Message: 40177 From: Michael Whitty Date: 7/23/2006
              Subject: Question for Ty Templeton
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              I sometimes wonder just how many POTA fans are out there still.

               

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