-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Friday, 15 September 2006 11:58 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: {Disarmed} Re: [PotaDG] Re: Revolution #6

To someone who has read it, yes it does make sense!  J

.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Saturday, 16 September 2006 12:10 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Revolution #6 - Tom Fowler

If any artist can do Apes in the non-traditional way (ie gorillas look like a real gorilla, chimps look more like real chimps) it’s Tom.  His work was a beautiful high note to end the series with.

Thanks Salgood for your work too.

.

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Saturday, 16 September 2006 12:28 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Revolution #6

Neil WHO!?!?!?!?  J

Read the letters page to understand.. .....

 

.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
Sent: Saturday, 16 September 2006 3:16 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Revolution #6 - Art and Bernie

The colouring has been a high point. Despite different artist the
comics held together as a coherent whole due in no small amount, I
think , to the wonderful work they've both done. ( A short black and
white wash strip would have been nice though :) )

.

_,_._,___

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Saturday, 16 September 2006 12:00 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Revolution #6 - Denis Roddier

Dude the cover layout is fantastic.

.

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Saturday, 16 September 2006 12:20 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Revolution #6 - Steve Molnar

Steve is my fave “true to life” comic artist behind Neil now.  His apes look like an animated version of the POTA apes, which is how we POTA fans like them!  Anyone who told you we just like comics of POTA is nuts – we want drawings of movies!

Great work from Steve.

.

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of atragon1@...
Sent: Saturday, 16 September 2006 9:45 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Revolution #6

I really enjoyed Revolution #6!

 

Especially the "Rollerball" reference. Great!!! I loved that movie.. If only James Caan could have made a cameo!

.

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Plonowski
Sent: Thursday, 21 September 2006 12:20 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com; potadg@yahoogroups.com; friends & fugitives
Subject: [PotaDG] Marvel UK issue 101

Issue 101 is now available to download from Hunter's site. This issue contains the stunning conclusion to the Derek Zane story (well, it's stunning if you didn't read it back in issue 86 when Marvel UK previously printed it). This issue also contains the next chapter in their re-printing of the Planet adaptation.

.

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dario
Sent: Monday, 18 September 2006 11:18 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] home-page pic , WC, Rev#6, Empire

Oh Yeah! When I first saw Conquest with my brother in the
seventies, the scene with the Gorilla holding the meat cleaver was
one of the most memorable. We loved it. Neil adding blood to it
gives it that pulpy pre-censorship days comic feel to it. William
Gaines would have been proud!

.

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>
> I agree with you on this one. A black hole would gobble up anything
> that near it, including the earth. Either the moon was destroyed or
> what I think that the moon got blown out from it orbit by a nuclear
> disaster or some sort of military action.
>
> Kevin
> PofTAfan

>>Yeah, except all those ships and planes that have vanished since

>
> In a message dated 9/20/06 5:31:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:
>
>
> > If the mass of the Moon [7.343 x 10^33 kilograms] were to be

>
> Oh, I didn't know that. Isn't the moon thought to be hollow,

> If so, how would something hollow implode? And, what would an

> >
> > I don't know where people get the ridiculous notion that Black

>
> Maybe that movie called THE BLACK HOLE has something to do with it?

> Do you believe one can pass through a "black hole" into another

>
> -- Rory
>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf
> Of Michael Whitty
>
> To someone who has read it, yes it does make sense! :-)
>
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- Just read it myself and I have to agree. Wonderful last story,
> probably my favourite of the whole series! Great stuff.
>
> Neil
----------------------------------------------------------------

*** Well, I got my copy of issue #6 yesterday, and I've read it.

First the good:

The art by Fowler & Molnar (and YOU, Neil!) was great. Oh, I could
quibble with a few things... the Alpha-Omega bomb doesn't look EXACTLY
the way it does in either "BENEATH" or "BATTLE" (and why not???)...
Aldo, though he has a physiognomy closer to a real ['primitive']
gorilla, looks so big that I doubt if he could actually FIT into the
cockpit of that VTOL aircraft!... but I'll let that stuff pass. The
artwork is truly dynamic, and the colors are exquisite. I like the fact
that Fowler draws Caesar similar to the way that Tom Sutton drew apes
in his "Future History Chronicles" (page 15, panel 3, looks just like a
Sutton-drawn ape's face, don't it?).

And, the story? I enjoyed it.

Now... the not-so-good:

Yes, I enjoyed the story... but, as my previous posts regarding this
REVOLUTION ON THE POTA story indicated, I have some problems with the
basic set-up. The notion that Caesar not only had acquired MEMORIES of
the events that transpired in St. Patrick's Cathedral when he was a
fetus inside a womb vaulting into orbit... but also had DREAMS of those
events well into his adult life, running throughout the events
of "CONQUEST".

In the 4th movie, Armando mentions to him that his parents were
brutally murdered because they posed a grave threat to Mankind: Apes
would dominate the Human Race. But Armando never ONCE mentions anything
about a future "doomsday" destruction of the Earth. We know that Zira
and Cornelius witnessed it, and told Lewis & Stevie about it... and
Zira divulged it (whilst drunk) to Hasslein, etc etc... but there's no
evidence that Armando knew about it. He ONLY knows that the Ape-onauts
came from the Future and, because he believes in the existence of a God
and that the Future the Apes came from represents Earth's "destiny...
the UNALTERABLE WILL OF GOD"... he willingly aided in the hiding of
Caesar's parents, and in taking on the role of foster-father.

How can Caesar have had any memories of Taylor triggering the bomb? I
wondered if the REVOLUTION story would perhaps have Mendez XXVI --
while on the verge of dying from the machinegun bullets -- establish
some weird kind of mental 'link' with the mind of fetus-Caesar...
channeling his telepathic experiences of those final moments into that
preborn chimp's brain.

Well, even though that would've explained HOW Caesar might've had such
memories, that STILL doesn't explain away (to my satisfaction) how it
is that Caesar could've FORGOTTEN all about it by the time "BATTLE"
happens, when MacDonald's brother tells him about the "sealed tapes" of
his dead parents. At that time, Caesar had been convinced that Virgil's
conception of Time was true... that Time has NO END and that the Earth,
with Apes at the helm, would fly safely through space...

Are we to suppose that REVOLUTION represents a DIFFERENT sequel
to "CONQUEST" -- one where the events of "BATTLE" will not transpire?
Is THAT it???

It SEEMS as if this is so... since the "CATCH A FALLING STAR" story
depicts Zaius & Milo in a DIFFERENT future than the one which we know
from "PLANET" and "BENEATH"... in a modern-style city rather than the
primitive-looking Ape City.

And, in this story, Zaius has Caesar's journals... which mention Milo
being the one to pilot Caesar's parents back to the Past... until Zaius
murders Milo and the text CHANGES, like in "BACK TO THE FUTURE" when
Marty McFly's photograph changes to reflect changes in a Timeline.

Are we, then, to suppose that in this Altered Timeline's even MORE
altered timeline, Zaius is the one who pilots the ANSA ship with Zira
and Cornelius??? And THAT somehow changes things BACK to what appears
to be the 'original'-style "PLANET" (the final page)???

Well, it's crazy and convoluted, and enjoyable on a certain level...
but I'm afraid that there are too many things in this REVOLUTION story
that just don't "fit in" to what I consider to be the essential
POTA 'canon': primarily, the 5 movies, and secondarily the TV series. I
still don't understand how Caesar can have had dream-memories of an
event he could not have experienced -- not without some sort of mind-
link with Mendez XXVI, the ONLY telepathic mutant on-the-scene (and
only MAYBE still barely alive) when Taylor triggers the Bomb.

As I said before, Ty had some 'splainin' to do... and, even though he
said the finale would do that, I just don't see that major loophole
tied-up. Was Ty tryin' to out-loopdeloop the Burton movie's convoluted
scenario, which led to that schematic in the DVD showing the flow of
events in that film?

Having said all this, I don't want to come off sounding too critical.
For my tastes, I deem only the 5 films and 14 TV episodes to constitute
the POTA 'canon'... but, even though I've never considered as part of
an 'official canon' the various comic book original POTA stories --
from Marvel's "TERROR" and "FUTURE HISTORY CHRONICLES" to
Adventure's "URCHAK'S FOLLY" to the Ballard/Whitty/Foster "BEWARE THE
BEAST" (etc etc), that doesn't mean that I haven't thoroughly enjoyed
reading them -- and, most especially, digging the artwork.

I enjoyed REVOLUTION for what it was, and I intend to buy the GN
version when it comes out, too... and I sure hope they continue making
more POTA comics. "EMPIRE ON THE PLANET OF THE APES" sounds like a good
title to me, if not to others. Regardless of whether or not "EMPIRE"
will have a story that I feel "fits in" better to 'my' preferred POTA
canon, I'll be happy to see more POTA product out there.

Viva la POTA!

Patrick

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, PofTAfan@... wrote:
>
> I agree with you on this one. A black hole would gobble up anything
> that near it, including the earth. Either the moon was destroyed or
> what I think that the moon got blown out from it orbit by a nuclear
> disaster or some sort of military action.
>
> Kevin
> PofTAfan
----------------------------------------------------------

*** With all due respect, guys... you're not making any sense at all.

Yes, a black hole WOULD gobble up anything that [got] near it. True.
But if the Moon were somehow to be turned into a black hole, how near
would it be to the Earth???

At present, the center of the Moon is -- on average -- about 238,900
miles from the Earth's center. In kilometers, that's 384,400. The
Earth's diameter is just under 8,000 miles, which makes the Moon's
average distance from Earth just a hair over THIRTY TIMES ITS WIDTH.

Picture a BASKETBALL, painted mostly blue... call it "Earth". Get 30
more basketballs and line 'em all up side-by-side like a string of
pearls on a necklace. Then put a baseball on the other end, paint it
grey and call it "Moon". That's how far apart the Earth and the Moon
are, with their relative sizes approximated. It's as if there are 30
invisible spheres, each the size of the Earth, in between the Earth
and the Moon.

The little illustration below shows "E" as Earth, "m" as the Moon,
and the lined-up zeros as Earth-diameters in-between the two:

E000000000000000000000000000000m

One other thing: you suppose that (prior to "PLANET") the Moon "got
blown out from it orbit by a nuclear disaster or some sort of
military action". There ain't enough nuclear bombs on the Earth with
the megatonnage needed to blow a the Moon outta its orbit! Besides,
the Moon not only orbits the Earth, but the Moon-and-Earth together
orbit the Sun.

If some 'force' were able to slingshot the Moon out of its orbit --
accelerating it to its Escape Velocity from Earth's gravity well --
then the Earth itself would have no 'choice' but to establish a new
orbit around the Sun (that is, a new orbital DISTANCE from the Sun),
and that would render life on Earth impossible: either it'd be too
COLD (if the Earth were forced to move OUTWARD from the Sun) or too
HOT (it forced to move INWARD towards the Sun).

In imparting a new (higher) velocity on the Moon, to get it to zing
away from the Earth, you would simultaneously be imparting a force
upon the Earth due to the fact that the Earth is
gravitationally "bound" to the Moon (that is, they are bound to each
other, orbiting each other about a common center-of-gravity).

Picture two skaters holding each other by the hand (right hand to
right hand, for example), twirling around and around in a circle,
with the center-of-motion being a bit closer to the heavier man
rather than the lighter girl; now imagine the man releasing his grip
on the girl's hand... what happens then? She goes flying away... and
HE is flung away in the opposite direction. It's the same principle
involved when a gun fires a bullet in one direction and giving
a "kick" in the opposite one: Action and Reaction. It's the same
phenomenon that allows a rocket to blast fuel in one direction,
causing the rocket itself to be propelled in the other (forward)
direction.

I think you've been watching too much "SPACE 1999"... ;)

Patrick

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- Oh no, not him again! Seriously though, it was a major thrill for me
> to have my art appear in a POTA comic
>
> Neil
>
> 

Yeah, it must have been, congratulations !!! I was hoping that Bernie Mireault might colour them , that would have been something too see, may be next time

Best wishes Graham.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- And for anyone interested I have whipped up a crude version of that
> part of the pin-up as a desktop wallpaper.
> It is available for a short time only in the Group's files section.
>
> Neil
>
>
>
  Looking good Neil, while I'm here,a few weeks ago you mentioned a mini poster you'd done ?  Can't find it anywhere !!! Did you get an e-mail I sent at the time ( a couple of pics were attached ) ? Just wondering.

Best wishes Graham.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- Just read it myself and I have to agree. Wonderful last story,
> probably my favourite of the whole series! Great stuff.
>
> Neil
>
>

-- Catch A Falling Star is  a fav' !!!  It's a great "ending" to the series , It's both fulfilling  and at the same time leaves the story open to more possibilities.  A neat trick in the spirit of POTA. Just shows that you don't have to slavishly copy the original to still reflect it's values.

Best Graham.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@...> wrote:
>
This issue contains the stunning conclusion to the Derek Zane story (well, it's stunning if you didn't read it back in issue 86 when Marvel UK previously printed it).
> Greg
>

  Oh the joys of Marvel UK running out of material to reprint !!! Come back Ape Slayer all's forgiven   As always  Greg you're doing a great job.

Best wishes Graham. 

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- And for anyone interested I have whipped up a crude version of
that
> part of the pin-up as a desktop wallpaper.
> It is available for a short time only in the Group's files section.
>
(http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/ANYRRVFwrJW10TRrYsEYRO6WGDFYPCb98pO1kS_g
SL
> AwiWz_8GgW2XgskUicY1fN3C1f0exJQ-kESo41j-wS/rpota%20pin%20up.jpg)
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Dario
> Sent: Monday, 18 September 2006 11:18 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] home-page pic , WC, Rev#6, Empire
>
>
>
> Oh Yeah! When I first saw Conquest with my brother in the
> seventies, the scene with the Gorilla holding the meat cleaver was
> one of the most memorable. We loved it. Neil adding blood to it
> gives it that pulpy pre-censorship days comic feel to it. William
> Gaines would have been proud!
>
>
> .
> _._,___
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Graham Hill" <shop@...> wrote:
> Looking good Neil, while I'm here,a few weeks ago you mentioned a
mini poster you'd done ? Can't find it anywhere !!! Did you get an
e-mail I sent at the time ( a couple of pics were attached ) ? Just
wondering.

> What's this?!!! A world where Patricks evolve from Rorys?
>
> Now you know how it feels, Patrick!
>
> -- Rory
>

>
> In a message dated 9/21/06 4:24:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:

> > In my POTA scenario, the ANSA hyperdrive is just so designed as

> >
> > Patrick
> >
>
> Yeah, I kind of figured that. A wondrous hyperdrive comes in very

>
> Anyway....
>
> Personally, I suspect the moon is hollow because of the way I've

>
> OK, Patrick, knock that theory down!
>
> -- Rory

On 9/21/06, Haristas@... <Haristas@...> wrote:

In a message dated 9/21/06 5:19:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time, patrickmichaeltilto n@... writes:

Now... the not-so-good:

Yes, I enjoyed the story... but, as my previous posts regarding this
REVOLUTION ON THE POTA story indicated, I have some problems with the
basic set-up. The notion that Caesar not only had acquired MEMORIES of
the events that transpired in St. Patrick's Cathedral when he was a
fetus inside a womb vaulting into orbit... but also had DREAMS of those
events well into his adult life, running throughout the events
of "CONQUEST".

Oh no, I'm glad I'm not reading this stuff.  Even Patrick wouldn't dream of such a thing!

How can Caesar have had any memories of Taylor triggering the bomb?

This must be "inspired" by Boulle's use of the same sort of thing in the novel.  Racial memories, I think they're called, but Zira and Cornelius would have had to have witnessed the events!

Are we to suppose that REVOLUTION represents a DIFFERENT sequel
to "CONQUEST" -- one where the events of "BATTLE" will not transpire?
Is THAT it???

It SEEMS as if this is so... since the "CATCH A FALLING STAR" story
depicts Zaius & Milo in a DIFFERENT future than the one which we know
from "PLANET" and "BENEATH"... in a modern-style city rather than the
primitive-looking Ape City.

It all sounds pretty "loopy" to me, but at least it seems they've embraced some sort of "alternate" timelines idea.  The problem with alternate timelines is that some of those "alternatives" can be awfully silly.  Imagination can be a dangerous thing.

Well, it's crazy and convoluted, and enjoyable on a certain level...
but I'm afraid that there are too many things in this REVOLUTION story
that just don't "fit in" to what I consider to be the essential
POTA 'canon'

What's this?!!!  A world where Patricks evolve from Rorys?

Now you know how it feels, Patrick!

-- Rory

--------- Original Message --------
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
To: "PotaDG@yahoogroups.com" <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Revolution #6-THX
Date: 25/09/06 19:34

Ty,

 

Thank you for taking a chance making a POTA comic and thank you for publishing Neil Foster's artwork in issue #6. By far the Revolution series has been the best Apes comic ever written and I hope you made enough money off of this series to continue writing them until 2955. 

 

If you keep writing them we'll keep buying them.

CH

---

Get your own web address for just $1.99/1st yr. We'll help. Yahoo! Small Business.

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Monday, 25 September 2006 8:30 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: {Disarmed} [PotaDG] Re: The Dark Fate of the Moon...

Where else would the aliens live?  J

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Haristas@aol. com
Sent: Monday, 25 September 2006 4:14 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: {Disarmed} [PotaDG] Re: The Dark Fate of the Moon...

I simply suspect there may be, based on certain evidence, a huge cavernous center, quite irregular in shape.  This cavernous area would be miles below the surface.  I also think that it took quite a long time for the moon to cool, and that most of the craters we see are very ancient.

.

--------- Original Message --------
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
To: "PotaDG@yahoogroups.com" <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [PotaDG] Fox put it to the Apes collectors again
Date: 27/09/06 00:16

Hey all, this may have been posted before and I missed it because I
have been away for a few.
The recent release of Return to the Planet of the Apes, the stand
alone set, is not the same as that released in the ultimate DVD set.
Oh, the cartoons are the same but the quaility is by far different.
The Ultimate sets are very poor quaility. No clean up or any
restoration. The new released set has been cleaned up and the
transfers are far greater than that in the Ultimate set. The newest
release are the best quaility you could expect for the Return cartoon.
So, if you have put off not getting these, go out and get them. They
are the better than the Ultimate release.
I noticed that in October Fox is re-releaseing the TV series. Could it
be that these have been re-mastered and cleaned? Will we get the
extras that were always promised and never delivered? Who

--------- Original Message --------
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
To: "PotaDG@yahoogroups.com" <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [PotaDG] Fox put it to the Apes collectors again
Date: 27/09/06 00:16

Hey all, this may have been posted before and I missed it because I
have been away for a few.
The recent release of Return to the Planet of the Apes, the stand
alone set, is not the same as that released in the ultimate DVD set.
Oh, the cartoons are the same but the quaility is by far different.
The Ultimate sets are very poor quaility. No clean up or any
restoration. The new released set has been cleaned up and the
transfers are far greater than that in the Ultimate set. The newest
release are the best quaility you could expect for the Return cartoon.
So, if you have put off not getting these, go out and get them. They
are the better than the Ultimate release.
I noticed that in October Fox is re-releaseing the TV series. Could it
be that these have been re-mastered and cleaned? Will we get the
extras that were always promised and never delivered? Who

Yes, that's the new release. According to Amazon the retail price is   $19.98, although their price is $13.99. I saw a copy at FYE this past   weekend for $21.99. 

  Greg  

Is this the set or a bootleg copy?

How much does it cost in the US?

http://cgi.ebay. com.au/return- to-the-planet- of-the-apes- dvd-a-complete- series_W0QQitemZ 130031316655QQih Z003QQcategoryZ4 1521QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem

.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Plonowski
Sent: Tuesday, 26 September 2006 10:48 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: {Disarmed} Re: [PotaDG] Fox put it to the Apes collectors again

Yes, that's the new release. According to Amazon the retail price is   $19.98, although their price is $13.99. I saw a copy at FYE this past   weekend for $21.99. 

  Greg  

Whitty <whitty@cyberone. com.au> wrote:

Is this the set or a bootleg copy?

How much does it cost in the US?

http://cgi.ebay. com.au/return- to-the-planet- of-the-apes- dvd-a-complete- series_W0QQitemZ 130031316655QQih Z003QQcategoryZ4 1521QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem

.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Plonowski
Sent: Tuesday, 26 September 2006 10:48 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: {Disarmed} Re: [PotaDG] Fox put it to the Apes collectors again

Yes, that's the new release. According to Amazon the retail price is   $19.98, although their price is $13.99. I saw a copy at FYE this past   weekend for $21.99. 

  Greg  

Whitty <whitty@cyberone. com.au> wrote:

Is this the set or a bootleg copy?

How much does it cost in the US?

http://cgi.ebay. com.au/return- to-the-planet- of-the-apes- dvd-a-complete- series_W0QQitemZ 130031316655QQih Z003QQcategoryZ4 1521QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem

.

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> I wonder if it is only a matter of time until we are
> complaining about
> Fox not cleaning up the deleted scenes as well as
> they could have when
> they released them!
>
> I have heard that there are some good things coming
> and it seemd to be
> confirmed here. Fox always keeps a few tricks up
> their sleeves and
> giving us BATTLE and RETURN could mean there's some
> GOOD things
> comin!!!!
>
> Michael
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Greg Plonowski
> Sent: Tuesday, 26 September 2006 10:48 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: {Disarmed} Re: [PotaDG] Fox put it to the
> Apes collectors again
>
>
>
>
>
> Yes, that's the new release. According to Amazon the
> retail price is
> $19.98, although their price is $13.99. I saw a copy
> at FYE this past
> weekend for $21.99.
> Greg
>
> Whitty <whitty@...> wrote:
>
> Is this the set or a bootleg copy?
>
> How much does it cost in the US?
>
> http://cgi.ebay
>

>

> >
>

>

>
> .
> Web Bug from
>

>

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>
>
>
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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Wednesday, 27 September 2006 11:28 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Terry Gilliam's Latest....

In a message dated 9/26/2006 8:05:32 AM Central Standard Time, whitty@cyberone. com.au writes:

Anyone seen TIDELAND?

Seen it??? I've never even heard of it....

.

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of luke_the_drifter52
Sent: Wednesday, 27 September 2006 10:46 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Fox put it to the Apes collectors again

You will be happy with this release I assure you. Also, what I liked,
there is a feature that you can select that will allow to you see the
next weeks episode that was taged at the end of the cartoon during

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Wednesday, 27 September 2006 10:16 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Fox put it to the Apes collectors again

Got my Return DVD today but haven't watched it yet!
Very cool.....odd tho that on the back it has all the
episodes listed but has both "Mission of Mercy" and "
Invasion of the Underdwellers" as airing on 11/1/75!

Tim

--- Michael Whitty <whitty@cyberone. com.au> wrote:

> I wonder if it is only a matter of time until we are
> complaining about
> Fox not cleaning up the deleted scenes as well as
> they could have when
> they released them!
>
> I have heard that there are some good things coming
> and it seemd to be
> confirmed here. Fox always keeps a few tricks up
> their sleeves and
> giving us BATTLE and RETURN could mean there's some
> GOOD things
> comin!!!!
>
> Michael
>
>
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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Wednesday, 27 September 2006 9:31 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: {Disarmed} [PotaDG] Re: Fox put it to the Apes collectors again

In a message dated 9/26/06 12:16:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, JLKINSER1970@ hotmail.com writes:

I noticed that in October Fox is re-releaseing the TV series. Could it
be that these have been re-mastered and cleaned? Will we get the
extras that were always promised and never delivered? Who knows???
John

Perhaps only the dead!

-- The Lawgiver

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Wednesday, 27 September 2006 9:38 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Fox put it to the Apes collectors again

In a message dated 9/26/06 6:46:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, whitty@cyberone. com.au writes:

Fox always keeps a few tricks up their sleeves and giving us BATTLE and RETURN could mean there's some GOOD things comin!!!!

Michael


Yeah, that's good positive thinking there, Whitty ol' boooooieeeee!

But the "good stuff a comin'" will probably be on HD or Blu-ray.  So, get the wallet out big time!

-- Rory

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Wednesday, 27 September 2006 9:51 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: {Disarmed} [PotaDG] Small DVD review of RETURN discs

A mention in today's www.filmscoremonthl y.com:

RETURN TO THE PLANET OF THE APES (1975, 316 mins., Fox): After Fox finished up their long running sci-fi saga with the so-so "Battle For the Planet of the Apes," the studio tried turning the franchise into a Saturday morning cartoon with "Return to the Planet of the Apes." Despite having produced by the usually reliable DePatie-Freleng group, mostly pedestrian animation sunk this interestingly- plotted series, which ran for 13 episodes in the fall of 1975 before being banished into obscurity -- at least until now. Fox's two-disc DVD set preserves the complete series (with tags for "next week's episode") in sharp, colorful full-screen transfers and mono sound, and fans ought to be delighted by how healthy these rarely-screened shows look.

As I've said, the cartoons look as good as I think they'll ever look.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Wednesday, 27 September 2006 11:56 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Fox put it to the Apes collectors again

In a message dated 9/26/2006 7:18:30 PM Central Standard Time, apefan23@yahoo. com writes:

Got my Return DVD today but haven't watched it yet!
Very cool.....odd tho that on the back it has all the
episodes listed but has both "Mission of Mercy" and "
Invasion of the Underdwellers"  as airing on 11/1/75!

**** Well, that's all fine and good, but what I really need to know is this: Are the episodes in their proper running order?

I recall Rory saying it looked like they might not be, so I need to know... **** 

.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Wednesday, 27 September 2006 10:16 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Fox put it to the Apes collectors again

Got my Return DVD today but haven't watched it yet!
Very cool.....odd tho that on the back it has all the
episodes listed but has both "Mission of Mercy" and "
Invasion of the Underdwellers" as airing on 11/1/75!

.

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Greg Plonowski
Sent: Wednesday, 27 September 2006 9:56 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com; potadg@yahoogroups.com; friends & fugitives
Subject: [PotaDG] Marvel UK issue 102

Hunter's posted this week's issue a little early, so those of you who've been craving some non-reprint Marvel UK Apes after three weeks of repeats can now enjoy the first part of Marvel's take on what happened between the events of Conquest and Battle. In an odd mirror to the recent Mr. Comics mini-series covering the same territory, Marvel UK also broke up their story over six issues. Click on the link below to begin your Quest for the Planet of the Apes.

.

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of luke_the_drifter52
Sent: Wednesday, 27 September 2006 10:46 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Fox put it to the Apes collectors again

You will be happy with this release I assure you. Also, what I liked,
there is a feature that you can select that will allow to you see the
next weeks episode that was taged at the end of the cartoon during
it's original run.

.

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Wednesday, 27 September 2006 11:28 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Terry Gilliam's Latest....

In a message dated 9/26/2006 8:05:32 AM Central Standard Time, whitty@cyberone. com.au writes:

Anyone seen TIDELAND?

Seen it??? I've never even heard of it....

.

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Wednesday, 27 September 2006 10:44 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: {Disarmed} [PotaDG] Re: Fox put it to the Apes collectors again

Let's do a petition!  :)

 

Sorry....

.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
> I wonder if it is only a matter of time until we are complaining
about Fox not cleaning up the deleted scenes as well as they could
have when they released them!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
> **** Well, that's all fine and good, but what I really need to know
is this:
> Are the episodes in their proper running order?
> I recall Rory saying it looked like they might not be, so I need to
know...

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Greg Plonowski <urko3085@...> wrote:
> Also this week, Hunter's posted some screen grabs from a 1976
episode of Wonder Woman with an interesting connection to Apes.
Intrigued? Or do you just want to see some pictures of Lynda Carter?
Either way, click on the link below.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
> Thanks to Rory I have been letting Lance entertain me for a few days.
> He really is one spaced out crazy chimp dudes!
> Ahh, the 60s (and early 70s!).

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
> You could be right Rory - but have they exhausted the DVD format yet?
> Nah!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
> Yeah well that's awesome coz like I said Rory - the HEAD toons were
not NEARLY as good!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
>
> So you mean you can set it to show a preview for the following
week's
> episode?
>
> Michael
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of luke_the_drifter52
> Sent: Wednesday, 27 September 2006 10:46 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Fox put it to the Apes collectors again
>
>
>
> You will be happy with this release I assure you. Also, what I
liked,
> there is a feature that you can select that will allow to you see
the
> next weeks episode that was taged at the end of the cartoon during
> it's original run.
> John
>
>
>
>
> --
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
> What the duece is that ?!?

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Friday, 29 September 2006 2:57 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Inspiration maybe?

What the duece is that ?!?



In a message dated 9/28/2006 5:17:49 PM Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:

Does this look a little similar to a certain spaceship design to anyone else?

> Imagine that... a "reusable spacecraft"... a vehicle able to ascend
> from Earth to orbit, then back down to the surface, and then be
> reused to re-achieve orbit. It fits the bill for the POTA scenario
> (all excepting that Hassleinian hyperdrive add-on...