.html.html In a message dated 1/31/2007 1:14:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, Willowape@... writes:

Concerve energy. Drive  little and small. Support alternative engeries such as; wind, solar, bio fuels and fusion. Our planet depends on it!

You know what I've been wondering lately is why we can't tap the energy that must be in the planet's ocean currents?

-- Rory

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I've waited a couple of hours to respond to this, so I can get some kind of angle on it ...but no I'm still flaming mad.

particularly as Neil was in a discussion about one of my painting when he posted his message.

This is utter bull shit, some dick,shit stirring, to cause trouble, possibly doing real  damage to apes fandom...

The back wash from this doesn't just involve Neil but all the rest of us.

The DG had been really cool for the last week and a bit ... sigh

Below I've copied a message I posted to another group, not Jame's,

I really hope that people just grow up.

 

Hi every one, hope you are all well,
Thought it was time too put my "pen " to paper on this Neil Scrolls thing as I think it's doing / going to do real harm to fandom, it's not just Neil or Dave who's in the shit storm the back wash gets others as well.
As most of you now I'm active over at the DG, at times, as I've said, it can be quite choppy waters.
Only last week Neil was saying that he'd had enough with apes, after a few of us posted messages with offers of things we'd do just to try and make it fun again, he became more engaged and the tone of the group lightened considerably there...
One of the things that annoys me about the e-mail Dave got from "mr Angry" telling tales, was that Neil's post was in response to a discussion we were having about my Scolls cover in which I was saying having seen it printed I'd paint it differently, you know one of those arty type talks about colour which I can drone on about for ages...
his comments need to be seen in context, He's certainly mentioned his action figure cover before and understood why it hadn't been used.

I regard Neil and many people here as friends, I lurked for a long time on the groups because of childish adolescent crap like this,we all should be too old for this...
It seems to me, the DG has a "spy" intent on trolling and shit stirring,how long before I or anyone else over there has to "watch" what they say. It really should n't be about this ... really.
This is what I mean by the back wash on other people, if some one got a beef with Neil or any one then it's between them, but no they have to drag in Dave and the whole of fandom.
I've just spent the last hour e-mailing people, I could have been painting... Crap like this is just going to drive people away, doesn't matter who was right to begin with and all because some dick wants to play games.
Lots of people do great work keeping apes going, Kass, Hunter with their sites,Greg P with everything, John, Dave, and Alan with Scrolls, James and yes even Neil, I'm proud to have a small association with all of them I'd like to think in years to come I recall the fun and creativity involved and not crap like this ... but it's getting harder.
As always best wishes Graham.

 

As always best wishes Graham.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> First up an apology about the post I recently sent to the group
> regarding a cover I did for Simian Scrolls. Dave Ballard of Scrolls
> thinks that the word 'rejected' is perhaps a little harsh, so I'm sorry
> for that Dave. I should have just said not wanted, not needed or unused?
>
> Also would the group member who forwarded that post to Dave under the
> pseudonym 'Mr Angry' please have the guts to tell us all who you are or
> at the very least do the honourable thing and leave the group.
>
> I wouldn't be surprised if you are also the same person who has, for the
> past year, been sending me insulting and derogatory emails using various
> different Yahoo IDs.
>
> So stop being a coward and reveal yourself please. And folks be careful
> what you say in your posts. Someone is obviously spying on the group and
> you don't know who they will target next, it could be you!
>
> Thank You,
>
> Neil
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> New month (well down here already) and a new Home Page picture to enjoy.
> It's another Graham Hill painting and damn fine it is too!
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/
>
> I'm sure Graham will provide an explanation about this one.
>
> Neil
Having swallowed the little book of calm...
Here's the link to the full pic

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w252/hill19652000/zaius2.jpg

This a re-coloured version of one off the trading cards I did for Hunter's site with the help of Greg P who put up with "arty" type things like not being able to measure and understand file sizes.

Here's the card.. thanks again Greg...

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w252/hill19652000/Zaius2520Card.jpg

Best, Graham.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
Sent: Thursday, 1 February 2007 9:18 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Mr Angry

Below I've copied a message I posted to another group, not Jame's,

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In a message dated 1/31/2007 1:14:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, Willowape@... writes:

Dr. Zaius vs The Inconvenient Truth. Dr. Zaius blew up Cornelius' cave, denying the apes the truth which by the long stretch could have help them.  But because of this denial the planet paid!

 

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I disagree. If Dr. Zaius had not destroyed the cave, and the word got out that man had been the dominant species before the apes, the apes would have gone ballistic and slaughtered every human that was left. Please elaborate how the apes, by knowing the truth about mankind, could have helped them in the "long stretch".

Bill

 

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Excuse my ignorance...he did the POTA backdrop paintings right?

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- Thanks Rory, damn good artist he was too.
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf
> Of Haristas@...
> Sent: Thursday, 1 February 2007 1:54 AM
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Emil Kosa Jr., the sequel
>
>
>
> Oh no, here's another link.
>
> http://www.calart
> <http://www.calart.com/Data/PhotoPages/Emil_KosaJr_4387.asp>
> com/Data/PhotoPages/Emil_KosaJr_4387.asp
>
> I guess he died in 1968. That would explain why his work wasn't in the
> sequels.
>
>
> .
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
> sgId=43175/stime=1170273136/nc1=3848607/nc2=3858795/nc3=3848432>
>

Another great piece of POTA art Graham.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> New month (well down here already) and a new Home Page picture to enjoy.
> It's another Graham Hill painting and damn fine it is too!
> http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/
>
> I'm sure Graham will provide an explanation about this one.
>
> Neil
>

Graham you Pommy fucker, you forgot to mention ME as part of POTA
glitteriarty! :)

Just jokes mate.

This c*nt is designing his attack to destroy us...don't let him win!

Mr Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Graham Hill" <shop@...> wrote:
>
>
> I've waited a couple of hours to respond to this, so I can get some kind
> of angle on it ...but no I'm still flaming mad.
>
> particularly as Neil was in a discussion about one of my painting when
> he posted his message.
>
> This is utter bull shit, some dick,shit stirring, to cause trouble,
> possibly doing real damage to apes fandom...
>
> The back wash from this doesn't just involve Neil but all the rest of
> us.
>
> The DG had been really cool for the last week and a bit ... sigh
>
> Below I've copied a message I posted to another group, not Jame's,
>
> I really hope that people just grow up.
>
>
>
> Hi every one, hope you are all well,
> Thought it was time too put my "pen " to paper on this Neil Scrolls
> thing as I think it's doing / going to do real harm to fandom, it's not
> just Neil or Dave who's in the shit storm the back wash gets others as
> well.
> As most of you now I'm active over at the DG, at times, as I've said, it
> can be quite choppy waters.
> Only last week Neil was saying that he'd had enough with apes, after a
> few of us posted messages with offers of things we'd do just to try and
> make it fun again, he became more engaged and the tone of the group
> lightened considerably there...
> One of the things that annoys me about the e-mail Dave got from "mr
> Angry" telling tales, was that Neil's post was in response to a
> discussion we were having about my Scolls cover in which I was saying
> having seen it printed I'd paint it differently, you know one of those
> arty type talks about colour which I can drone on about for ages...
> his comments need to be seen in context, He's certainly mentioned his
> action figure cover before and understood why it hadn't been used.
>
> I regard Neil and many people here as friends, I lurked for a long time
> on the groups because of childish adolescent crap like this,we all
> should be too old for this...
> It seems to me, the DG has a "spy" intent on trolling and shit
> stirring,how long before I or anyone else over there has to "watch" what
> they say. It really should n't be about this ... really.
> This is what I mean by the back wash on other people, if some one got a
> beef with Neil or any one then it's between them, but no they have to
> drag in Dave and the whole of fandom.
> I've just spent the last hour e-mailing people, I could have been
> painting... Crap like this is just going to drive people away, doesn't
> matter who was right to begin with and all because some dick wants to
> play games.
> Lots of people do great work keeping apes going, Kass, Hunter with their
> sites,Greg P with everything, John, Dave, and Alan with Scrolls, James
> and yes even Neil, I'm proud to have a small association with all of
> them I'd like to think in years to come I recall the fun and creativity
> involved and not crap like this ... but it's getting harder.
> As always best wishes Graham.
>
>
>
> As always best wishes Graham.
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@> wrote:
> >
> > First up an apology about the post I recently sent to the group
> > regarding a cover I did for Simian Scrolls. Dave Ballard of Scrolls
> > thinks that the word 'rejected' is perhaps a little harsh, so I'm
> sorry
> > for that Dave. I should have just said not wanted, not needed or
> unused?
> >
> > Also would the group member who forwarded that post to Dave under the
> > pseudonym 'Mr Angry' please have the guts to tell us all who you are
> or
> > at the very least do the honourable thing and leave the group.
> >
> > I wouldn't be surprised if you are also the same person who has, for
> the
> > past year, been sending me insulting and derogatory emails using
> various
> > different Yahoo IDs.
> >
> > So stop being a coward and reveal yourself please. And folks be
> careful
> > what you say in your posts. Someone is obviously spying on the group
> and
> > you don't know who they will target next, it could be you!
> >
> > Thank You,
> >
> > Neil
> >
>

Graham,

I love them BOTH!

Dude, do you sell these?

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Graham Hill" <shop@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@> wrote:
> >
> > New month (well down here already) and a new Home Page picture to
> enjoy.
> > It's another Graham Hill painting and damn fine it is too!
> > http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/
> >
> > I'm sure Graham will provide an explanation about this one.
> >
> > Neil
> Having swallowed the little book of calm...
> Here's the link to the full pic
>
> http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w252/hill19652000/zaius2.jpg
> <http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w252/hill19652000/zaius2.jpg>
>
> This a re-coloured version of one off the trading cards I did for
> Hunter's site with the help of Greg P who put up with "arty" type things
> like not being able to measure and understand file sizes.
>
> Here's the card.. thanks again Greg...
>
> http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w252/hill19652000/Zaius2520Card.jpg
> <http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w252/hill19652000/Zaius2520Card.jpg>
>
> Best, Graham.
>

Feck of and mind your own business Neil!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- I don't suppose there is any chance you could tell me which group it
> is Graham? Because I do not feel at all comfortable with people
> apparently talking about me behind my back without having the chance to
> reply and give my side and from the wording of your copied post that is
> exactly what sounds like is going on.
>
> Obviously I don't want you to compromise yourself or cause any trouble
> so feel free to tell me to feck off and mind my own business if you have
> to.
>
> Best,
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf
> Of Graham Hill
> Sent: Thursday, 1 February 2007 9:18 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Mr Angry
>
>
>
>
> Below I've copied a message I posted to another group, not Jame's,
>
> .
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
> sgId=43186/stime=1170285502/nc1=3858790/nc2=3848608/nc3=3848432>
>

What's hilarious about this dude is that he sends emails to Neil that
attempt to be either English or Australian. He says things like "me
old chum" and "guvna" and spells "colour" with the "u" in an attempt
to make Neil (and I - but I just deleted them after a while) think
that it's Dave B (IMHO).

It's the same style as the guy who sent emails to the group claiming
to be from Rory, but he was actually forging the "sent by" field to
seem that way. A little investigation revealed that to be James (we
dubbed him as the POTA Terrorist if you recall!).

As I say to Neil every time this idiot appears:

IGNORE HIM! He thrives on causing harm and pain and damage. If we
annoy the git, he WILL go away.

I really have no idea what harm he has done by representing himself to
other as me, so I will say to everyone - if I have supposedly sent an
email abusing you, respond to me and check if indeed it WAS me.

If it WAS me (yes, Chris, that WAS me you wanker! - and if you all
want to know who I think is ding this....), I'll tell you. One thing
about me is that if you piss me off:

(1) I'll tell you;
(2) I'll try to sort it out.

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Graham Hill" <shop@...> wrote:
>
>
> I've waited a couple of hours to respond to this, so I can get some kind
> of angle on it ...but no I'm still flaming mad.
>
> particularly as Neil was in a discussion about one of my painting when
> he posted his message.
>
> This is utter bull shit, some dick,shit stirring, to cause trouble,
> possibly doing real damage to apes fandom...
>
> The back wash from this doesn't just involve Neil but all the rest of
> us.
>
> The DG had been really cool for the last week and a bit ... sigh
>
> Below I've copied a message I posted to another group, not Jame's,
>
> I really hope that people just grow up.
>
>
>
> Hi every one, hope you are all well,
> Thought it was time too put my "pen " to paper on this Neil Scrolls
> thing as I think it's doing / going to do real harm to fandom, it's not
> just Neil or Dave who's in the shit storm the back wash gets others as
> well.
> As most of you now I'm active over at the DG, at times, as I've said, it
> can be quite choppy waters.
> Only last week Neil was saying that he'd had enough with apes, after a
> few of us posted messages with offers of things we'd do just to try and
> make it fun again, he became more engaged and the tone of the group
> lightened considerably there...
> One of the things that annoys me about the e-mail Dave got from "mr
> Angry" telling tales, was that Neil's post was in response to a
> discussion we were having about my Scolls cover in which I was saying
> having seen it printed I'd paint it differently, you know one of those
> arty type talks about colour which I can drone on about for ages...
> his comments need to be seen in context, He's certainly mentioned his
> action figure cover before and understood why it hadn't been used.
>
> I regard Neil and many people here as friends, I lurked for a long time
> on the groups because of childish adolescent crap like this,we all
> should be too old for this...
> It seems to me, the DG has a "spy" intent on trolling and shit
> stirring,how long before I or anyone else over there has to "watch" what
> they say. It really should n't be about this ... really.
> This is what I mean by the back wash on other people, if some one got a
> beef with Neil or any one then it's between them, but no they have to
> drag in Dave and the whole of fandom.
> I've just spent the last hour e-mailing people, I could have been
> painting... Crap like this is just going to drive people away, doesn't
> matter who was right to begin with and all because some dick wants to
> play games.
> Lots of people do great work keeping apes going, Kass, Hunter with their
> sites,Greg P with everything, John, Dave, and Alan with Scrolls, James
> and yes even Neil, I'm proud to have a small association with all of
> them I'd like to think in years to come I recall the fun and creativity
> involved and not crap like this ... but it's getting harder.
> As always best wishes Graham.
>
>
>
> As always best wishes Graham.
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@> wrote:
> >
> > First up an apology about the post I recently sent to the group
> > regarding a cover I did for Simian Scrolls. Dave Ballard of Scrolls
> > thinks that the word 'rejected' is perhaps a little harsh, so I'm
> sorry
> > for that Dave. I should have just said not wanted, not needed or
> unused?
> >
> > Also would the group member who forwarded that post to Dave under the
> > pseudonym 'Mr Angry' please have the guts to tell us all who you are
> or
> > at the very least do the honourable thing and leave the group.
> >
> > I wouldn't be surprised if you are also the same person who has, for
> the
> > past year, been sending me insulting and derogatory emails using
> various
> > different Yahoo IDs.
> >
> > So stop being a coward and reveal yourself please. And folks be
> careful
> > what you say in your posts. Someone is obviously spying on the group
> and
> > you don't know who they will target next, it could be you!
> >
> > Thank You,
> >
> > Neil
> >
>

Neil would just tell him to FECK OFF! :)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, tshaf37@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 1/31/2007 3:43:10 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> thaderulestheplanet@... writes:
>
> You who are so smart with you and your maps do not realise when the
> parting is real and the new Ceaser is Thade!
>
>
> Your a pain is right. Someone contact me when somrthing about the
real apes
> is talked about. This guy is a clown.
>

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Is this the Coop pic?

The link doesn't work.

 

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arrows but nothing.

 

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In a message dated 1/31/2007 3:36:06 A.M. Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:

-- Here 'tis again:

Yeah . . . Still not working.

 

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In a message dated 1/31/2007 5:37:25 A.M. Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

The addar kit – looks like a blind female chimp!

Fawna?

 

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-- Please don't. I hate Beavis and Butthead as much as I hate South Park but my kids seem to love that crap. I must have become the old fart that my Dad was.

Beavis and Butthead is one of the best animated shows!!!!

South Park, has it's moments but is really only worth watching to see what Cartman says/does... It is no Beavis and Butthead...

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.html In a message dated 2/1/2007 12:22:56 AM Central Standard Time, TZer0@... writes:

In a message dated 1/31/2007 5:37:25 A.M. Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

The addar kit – looks like a blind female chimp!

Fawna?


*** I think the Zira model looks more like Jillia from "The Good Seeds" than she looks like Fauna... But the Zira model really reminds me of an elderly female chimp...<.html

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In a message dated 2/1/2007 1:04:57 A.M. Central Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

*** I think the Zira model looks more like Jillia from "The Good Seeds" than she looks like Fauna... But the Zira model really reminds me of an elderly female chimp...

 

A blind Jillia?

I thought she was only socially blind.

I dated a girl like that once.  Look out!

 

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Thursday, 1 February 2007 4:50 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Animated shows (was Caesar Christ Watercolor Painting) (OT)

Beavis and Butthead is one of the best animated shows!!!!

South Park, has it's moments but is really only worth watching to see what Cartman says/does... It is no Beavis and Butthead...

I suppose you don't like Family Guy or American Dad either?

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of atragon1@...
Sent: Thursday, 1 February 2007 11:06 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] The Incontinent Truth

I disagree. If Dr. Zaius had not destroyed the cave, and the word got out that man had been the dominant species before the apes, the apes would have gone ballistic and slaughtered every human that was left.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Thursday, 1 February 2007 1:17 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Emil Kosa Jr., the sequel

Excuse my ignorance... he did the POTA backdrop paintings right?

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Thursday, 1 February 2007 1:38 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Mr Angry

What's hilarious about this dude is that he sends emails to Neil that
attempt to be either English or Australian. He says things like "me
old chum" and "guvna" and spells "colour" with the "u" in an attempt
to make Neil (and I - but I just deleted them after a while) think
that it's Dave B (IMHO).

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Thursday, 1 February 2007 4:20 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Home page pic.

Yeah . . . Still not working.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of tshaf37@...
Sent: Thursday, 1 February 2007 12:18 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] I am pain

Your a pain is right. Someone contact me when somrthing about the real apes is talked about. This guy is a clown.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Thursday, 1 February 2007 1:38 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Mr Angry

IGNORE HIM! He thrives on causing harm and pain and damage. If we
annoy the git, he WILL go away.

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.html In a message dated 2/1/2007 3:48:20 AM Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:

-- Yes you're quite right, I don't like them either. Probably because to me grossness and stupidity doesn't equal funny. I like a bit of intelligence in my humour.

Hmmm... Family Guy can be gross/stupid I suppose, but it really is clever ("intelligent") at times... Same with American Dad, which never really gets into the "gross" type of things you don't care for... I'm not saying you should like these shows, just that they are not from the same mold as Beavis and Butthead or South Park...<.html

.html In a message dated 1/31/2007 9:19:17 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

Excuse my ignorance...he did the POTA backdrop paintings right?

Yep, that's him... And his most famous painting in the film is of course The Statue of Liberty...
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> Well you do learn something new every day! I just found out that Planet
> of the Apes was originally planned to be filmed in England!
>
> Neil
>
Any more info on this Neil ?

Graham.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Friday, 2 February 2007 1:52 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Animated shows (was Caesar Christ Watercolor Painting) (OT)

Hmmm... Family Guy can be gross/stupid I suppose, but it really is clever ("intelligent" ) at times... Same with American Dad, which never really gets into the "gross" type of things you don't care for... I'm not saying you should like these shows, just that they are not from the same mold as Beavis and Butthead or South Park...

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
Sent: Friday, 2 February 2007 4:50 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: I didn't know that!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> Well you do learn something new every day! I just found out that Planet
> of the Apes was originally planned to be filmed in England!
>
> Neil
>
Any more info on this Neil ?

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
Sent: Friday, 2 February 2007 4:50 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: I didn't know that!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> Well you do learn something new every day! I just found out that Planet
> of the Apes was originally planned to be filmed in England!
>
> Neil
>
Any more info on this Neil ?

.

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I love Family Guy and American Dad!

I have been a Simpsons fan for years but FG is quickly becioming my
fave....with AD a close 2nd!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 1/31/2007 3:21:57 AM Central Standard Time,
> ntfoster@... writes:
>
>
> > -- Please don't. I hate Beavis and Butthead as much as I hate
South Park
> > but my kids seem to love that crap. I must have become the old
fart that my Dad
> >
>
> Beavis and Butthead is one of the best animated shows!!!!
>
> South Park, has it's moments but is really only worth watching to
see what
> Cartman says/does... It is no Beavis and Butthead...
>
> I suppose you don't like Family Guy or American Dad either?
>

If you look at the pose she really looks like she's blind, feeling
her way around the place!

I think I got my model after I saw Fawna on the TV Show and I
thought maybe ADDAR got them confused.

Were the models released while the TV Show was on or after? If not,
the my theory gets blown out of the water!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 2/1/2007 12:22:56 AM Central Standard Time,
TZer0@...
> writes:
>
>
> > In a message dated 1/31/2007 5:37:25 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> > whitty@... writes:
> >
> > >>
> >
> >
> > Fawna?
> >
>
> *** I think the Zira model looks more like Jillia from "The Good
Seeds" than
> she looks like Fauna... But the Zira model really reminds me of an
elderly
> female chimp...
>

There's an episode of FG where Peter gets checked for colon cancer
that I watch over and ocer...Neil, I'm going to have to work on you!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- Yes you're quite right, I don't like them either. Probably
because to
> me grossness and stupidity doesn't equal funny. I like a bit of
> intelligence in my humour.
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of mlccougar@...
> Sent: Thursday, 1 February 2007 4:50 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Animated shows (was Caesar Christ Watercolor
> Painting) (OT)
>
>
> Beavis and Butthead is one of the best animated shows!!!!
>
> South Park, has it's moments but is really only worth watching to
see
> what Cartman says/does... It is no Beavis and Butthead...
>
> I suppose you don't like Family Guy or American Dad either?
> .
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?
s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
> sgId=43203/stime=1170312650/nc1=3848606/nc2=3858790/nc3=4299903>
>

Precisely.

Let's just keep talking apes and let Mr Angry get Mr Angrier! :)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- And another thing I will just add is that when this happens a
lot of
> members just think 'oh, no here we go again' and go quiet. This is
> exactly the aim of this person (or persons), works every time. So
don't
> let him/them win again is all I ask.
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Michael Whitty
> Sent: Thursday, 1 February 2007 1:38 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Mr Angry
>
>
>
> IGNORE HIM! He thrives on causing harm and pain and damage. If we
> annoy the git, he WILL go away.
>
>
> .
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?
s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
> sgId=43197/stime=1170301092/nc1=1/nc2=2/nc3=3>
>

Nah!

Hey - speaking of England - I was blown away at Roger Waters' Dark
Side Of The Moon concert in Melbourne last night and he said:

"Lucky we're doing Rock and Roll and not cricket tonight!".

:)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> Well you do learn something new every day! I just found out that
Planet
> of the Apes was originally planned to be filmed in England!
>
> Neil
>

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Friday, 2 February 2007 10:09 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Animated shows (was Caesar Christ Watercolor Painting) (OT)

There's an episode of FG where Peter gets checked for colon cancer
that I watch over and ocer...Neil, I'm going to have to work on you!

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In a message dated 2/1/2007 5:06:43 AM Eastern Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:

-- Why do you make that assumption? Do you think it would have had that effect on chimps like Cornelius and Zira? Maybe the thick headed gorillas would have reacted in that way but all the apes? I'm not so sure that they would have.

 

Neil

********************************************************************

Cornelius and Zira were supposed to be the exception to the rule -- they were the only two apes that became sympathetic to humans.  If the rest chimps were so sympathetic, why didn't they protest outside of Taylor's cell? The chimps were willing to go against the establishment by protesting the war in BENEATH (a cause the believed in), but why not Taylor? I guess they didn't care too much...

 

Getting back to my original question.. How would knowing that humans were once the dominant species on the planet have helped the apes in the long term?

Any takers?

Bill

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I think she would have been great for the role...



In a message dated 2/1/2007 4:12:37 PM Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:

-- Or how about the name of the actress who was originally pencilled in to play Zira but turned it down because of the makeup?

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.html In a message dated 2/1/2007 6:08:57 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

Were the models released while the TV Show was on or after?  If not,
the my theory gets blown out of the water!

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.html In a message dated 2/1/2007 8:06:14 PM Central Standard Time, atragon1@... writes:

Cornelius and Zira were supposed to be the exception to the rule -- they were the only two apes that became sympathetic to humans.  If the rest chimps were so sympathetic, why didn't they protest outside of Taylor's cell? The chimps were willing to go against the establishment by protesting the war in BENEATH (a cause the believed in), but why not Taylor? I guess they didn't care too much...

The vast majority of apes hate humans, so I'm with you on this one... I mean there may have been a few more apes that would have sympathised with Taylor's cause had they known about him... (I'm pretty sure that the whole thing was covered up and the few that seen him when he spoke probably thinking they were hearing things or it was all a hoax... Either way, remember when Lucius comes to get Taylor out of the cage, he was like "So you can talk" which says to me that he didn't entirely believe Zira until he heard it himself...)

Anyway, to be fair though, a few of the protesting chimps DO have things like "Free The Humans" on their placards, so if nothing else, they are against damning an entire species because the warhawks in charge say they are the cause of all the ape's problems... (In other words, they are "animal rights" activists in addition to war protestors...)

Getting back to my original question.. How would knowing that humans were once the dominant species on the planet have helped the apes in the long term?

It wouldn't!

Those in charge fear the knowledge getting out because they believe it could mean the end of their civilization... Be it Man reconquering the planet and showing his dominance, or the knowledge getting out and corrupting the apes (leading them to eventually destroy themselves as Man did),they will do all they can to prevent that from happening... If they did find out Man once ruled, it could easily cause anarchy, not because the humans once ruled, but because the apes would find out they were lied to... This anarchy could easily set off a chain of events which would lead to the downfall of the apes society...

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Friday, 2 February 2007 12:34 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: I didn't know that!

Are you referring to Shirley Mc Laine (sp?) <Warren Beatty's sister>

I think she would have been great for the role...

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What like when Monty Python takes the piss out of death in
general? ;)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- Well the last thing I want to watch is something stupid taking
the
> piss out of having cancer, having been there myself, so if it does,
> don't bother!
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Michael Whitty
> Sent: Friday, 2 February 2007 10:09 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Animated shows (was Caesar Christ Watercolor
> Painting) (OT)
>
>
>
> There's an episode of FG where Peter gets checked for colon cancer
> that I watch over and ocer...Neil, I'm going to have to work on
you!
>
>
> .
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?
s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
> sgId=43223/stime=1170374968/nc1=1/nc2=2/nc3=3>
>

Hi Bill

Well, it could have convinced the apes that humans were not just
stupid animals.

Human attitudes toards the more intelligent animals have
(theoretically) changed.

However this has not converted has it? Apes are almost extinct
regardless of their intelligence.

So you do have a point, but maybe the apes could have altered
attitude in time to save humanity from extinction (well, if Heston
had not appeared in Beneath and got his way....).

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, atragon1@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 2/1/2007 5:06:43 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> ntfoster@... writes:
>
> -- Why do you make that assumption? Do you think it would have
had that
> effect on chimps like Cornelius and Zira? Maybe the thick headed
gorillas would
> have reacted in that way but all the apes? I'm not so sure that
they would
> have.
>
> Neil
>
>
>
>
********************************************************************
> Cornelius and Zira were supposed to be the exception to the rule -
- they
> were the only two apes that became sympathetic to humans. If the
rest chimps
> were so sympathetic, why didn't they protest outside of Taylor's
cell? The
> chimps were willing to go against the establishment by protesting
the war in
> BENEATH (a cause the believed in), but why not Taylor? I guess
they didn't care
> too much...
>
> Getting back to my original question.. How would knowing that
humans were
> once the dominant species on the planet have helped the apes in
the long term?
> Any takers?
> Bill
>

Yeah she has similar facial features but not that lovely pommy
accent! :)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
> Are you referring to Shirley Mc Laine (sp?) <Warren Beatty's
sister>
>
> I think she would have been great for the role...
>
>
>
> In a message dated 2/1/2007 4:12:37 PM Central Standard Time,
> ntfoster@... writes:
>
>
> > -- Or how about the name of the actress who was originally
pencilled in to
> > play Zira but turned it down because of the makeup?
> >
> >
>

Fair enough but tell me the chimp in the model don't look blind.....

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 2/1/2007 6:08:57 PM Central Standard Time,
> whitty@... writes:
>
>
> > Were the models released while the TV Show was on or after? If
not,
> > the my theory gets blown out of the water!
>
> *** The earliest batch (which included Zira) were released in 1973 I
> believe... They were definitely out before the show was on the air...
Cover yourself
> so you don't get soaked...***
>

Sound like the basis for a great story!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 2/1/2007 8:06:14 PM Central Standard Time,
> atragon1@... writes:
>
> > Cornelius and Zira were supposed to be the exception to the
rule -- they
> > were the only two apes that became sympathetic to humans. If
the rest chimps
> > were so sympathetic, why didn't they protest outside of Taylor's
cell? The
> > chimps were willing to go against the establishment by
protesting the war in
> > BENEATH (a cause the believed in), but why not Taylor? I guess
they didn't care
> > too much...
>
> The vast majority of apes hate humans, so I'm with you on this
one... I mean
> there may have been a few more apes that would have sympathised
with Taylor's
> cause had they known about him... (I'm pretty sure that the whole
thing was
> covered up and the few that seen him when he spoke probably
thinking they were
> hearing things or it was all a hoax... Either way, remember when
Lucius comes
> to get Taylor out of the cage, he was like "So you can talk" which
says to me
> that he didn't entirely believe Zira until he heard it himself...)
>
> Anyway, to be fair though, a few of the protesting chimps DO have
things like
> "Free The Humans" on their placards, so if nothing else, they are
against
> damning an entire species because the warhawks in charge say they
are the cause
> of all the ape's problems... (In other words, they are "animal
rights"
> activists in addition to war protestors...)
>
>
> >
> > Getting back to my original question.. How would knowing that
humans were
> > once the dominant species on the planet have helped the apes in
the long term?
> >
> It wouldn't!
>
> Those in charge fear the knowledge getting out because they
believe it could
> mean the end of their civilization... Be it Man reconquering the
planet and
> showing his dominance, or the knowledge getting out and corrupting
the apes
> (leading them to eventually destroy themselves as Man did),they
will do all they
> can to prevent that from happening... If they did find out Man
once ruled, it
> could easily cause anarchy, not because the humans once ruled, but
because the
> apes would find out they were lied to... This anarchy could easily
set off a
> chain of events which would lead to the downfall of the apes
society...
>

.html In a message dated 2/1/2007 9:14:25 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

maybe the apes could have altered attitude in time to save humanity from extinction

*** Where do you get that? I mean they basically say that they are being outnumbered and eaten out of house and home by those damnable humans!

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.html In a message dated 2/1/2007 9:17:31 PM Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

Fair enough but tell me the chimp in the model doesn't look blind.....

*** Ok, she doesn't look blind... :)

As mentioned before, to me anyway, she looks like she was an elderly chimp... Maybe her glaucoma was setting in, but I can't say she's blind... Not totally anyway...
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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Friday, 2 February 2007 1:09 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Animated shows (was Caesar Christ Watercolor Painting) (OT)

What like when Monty Python takes the piss out of death in
general? ;)

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.html That's one thing I don't get, the whole Monty Python thing...

I mean it's okay, and sorta funny at times, but it's not like Family guy, right Whitty?


In a message dated 2/1/2007 9:29:26 PM Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:

-- The difference is they are funny!

Neil

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Friday, 2 February 2007 1:09 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Animated shows (was Caesar Christ Watercolor Painting) (OT)


What like when Monty Python takes the piss out of death in
general? ;)




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hello all.....
I'm taking off for Las Vegas for a long weekend so I'm
going to temporarily switch to "no emails" so I won't
have thousands of messages to catch up on! I'll be
back on Tuesday and will check in then to see if I
missed anything!
Cheers!
Tim

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Friday, 2 February 2007 2:22 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] goin' to Vegas!

hello all.....
I'm taking off for Las Vegas for a long weekend so I'm
going to temporarily switch to "no emails" so I won't
have thousands of messages to catch up on! I'll be
back on Tuesday and will check in then to see if I
missed anything!
Cheers!

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.html In a message dated 2/2/2007 12:32:40 AM Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:

.

So if anyone would like to see it let us know and if there is enough interest I'll start posting it. As the whole thing is pretty long It will be best to post it to the group in separate 'digestible chunks'.

*** Hell yeah, I'd like to see it...

I've seen the book once or twice but never bought it, so reading all of that will be interesting... (And don't think I'm not appreciative of it if I don't say "thanks" after every posting on it!)

I do recall reading in it when I glanced at it that he certainly wasn't too fond of Linda Harrison... Not saying that he didn't like her, but he certainly wasn't very impressed with her "acting" ability, despite what she may have said about his being supportive and all... He doesn't even refer to her by name most of the time, and in his writings, he simply refers to her as "the girl"...
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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Friday, 2 February 2007 10:13 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: I didn't know that!

Nah!

Hey - speaking of England - I was blown away at Roger Waters' Dark
Side Of The Moon concert in Melbourne last night and he said:

"Lucky we're doing Rock and Roll and not cricket tonight!".

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Friday, 2 February 2007 10:11 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Mr Angry

Precisely.

Let's just keep talking apes and let Mr Angry get Mr Angrier! :)

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Friday, 2 February 2007 4:38 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] The Actor's Life: Journals 1956-1976. (Apes Extracts)

*** Hell yeah, I'd like to see it...

I've seen the book once or twice but never bought it, so reading all of that will be interesting. .. (And don't think I'm not appreciative of it if I don't say "thanks" after every posting on it!)

I do recall reading in it when I glanced at it that he certainly wasn't too fond of Linda Harrison... Not saying that he didn't like her, but he certainly wasn't very impressed with her "acting" ability, despite what she may have said about his being supportive and all... He doesn't even refer to her by name most of the time, and in his writings, he simply refers to her as "the girl"...

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.html In a message dated 2/2/2007 12:49:49 AM Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:

I'm not after thanks

I know that... I just wanted to say ahead of time that even if you don't get a "thanks" people DO like what you post etc...

I just want to know if there is a genuine interest in reading it, and you're

right, he didn't seem to think a lot of Linda Harrison's acting 'ability' :-)

That's always kinda funny to me, how Linda will set there and say how Heston really supported her etc. and yet right there in his diaries he pretty much says that she was useless...



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In a message dated 2/1/2007 2:41:42 P.M. Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:

-- Well does anyone on here have the Charlton Heston book 'The Actor's Life: Journals 1956-1976'?

 

Neil

 

YES

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In a message dated 2/1/2007 4:13:46 P.M. Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:

-- Or how about the name of the actress who was originally pencilled in to play Zira but turned it down because of the makeup?

 

Neil

 

Though there had been talk of Natalie Wood as well,

it was actually Julie Harris the turned it down for that.

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Even on Broadway Julie Harris was seldom in the

same plays as Kim Hunter.  But they needed a

blacklisted Julie Harris to hit up for parts that Harris

wouldn't or couldn't take.  Kim filled that role nicely.

Harris was kind of like that for Kim Stanely as well. 

Or this may be half remembered crap I read, somewhere...

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Friday, 2 February 2007 5:15 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: I didn't know that!

YES

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Friday, 2 February 2007 5:17 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: I didn't know that!

Though there had been talk of Natalie Wood as well,

it was actually Julie Harris the turned it down for that.

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In a message dated 2/2/2007 1:35:05 A.M. Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:

-- Correct, give that man a cigar!

 

Neil

 

Now can you name the first choice for Cornelius?

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Friday, 2 February 2007 5:38 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: I didn't know that!

Now can you name the first choice for Cornelius?

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Friday, 2 February 2007 10:28 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Mr Angry

Oh dear – remember what happened last time you did that?  Mr angry got so angry he nearly blew a gasket!  J

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Win millions! ;)

Donna

>From: "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...>
>Reply-To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
>To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [PotaDG] goin' to Vegas!
>Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 20:22:27 -0800 (PST)
>
>hello all.....
>I'm taking off for Las Vegas for a long weekend so I'm
>going to temporarily switch to "no emails" so I won't
>have thousands of messages to catch up on! I'll be
>back on Tuesday and will check in then to see if I
>missed anything!
>Cheers!
>Tim
>
>
>
>

I'm interested.

Greg

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> So if anyone would like to see it let us know and if there is enough
> interest I'll start posting it. As the whole thing is pretty long It
> will be best to post it to the group in separate 'digestible chunks'.
>
> Neil
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
>
> Graham,
>
> I love them BOTH!
>
> Dude, do you sell these?
>
>
Hi Michael, I haven't ... and at the moment I'm playing with photo shop so some of the actual  paintings look quite a bit different than the "Finished" version so I'd feel a bit awkward..

The book mark chimp never got beyond the tonal underpainting all the colour was added later on the PC, if I've still got the file on the computer I'll show you what I mean.

Some times after I've finished I go back at a later date and paint a bit more.

The Virdon portrait  in the trading card set was like this so once again the "real" thing now looks quite different than the card.

Best, Graham.

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
Sent: Friday, 2 February 2007 5:30 PM
To: 'PotaDG'
Subject: [PotaDG] The Actor's Life: Journals 1956-1976. (Apes Extracts)

 

Not long ago in response to a post saying there was nothing new to discuss about a 40 year old film I mentioned that I did have some new stuff that I was going to share with the group. Okay, it's not really 'new' but it may be something quite a few of you have never seen.

 

In 1978 Charlton Heston released a book that contained the writings from his daily diary - The Actor's Life: Journals 1956-1976. (1978 - ISBN: 0-525-05030- 2) which of course covered the time that he was filming Planet and Beneath. It contains some very interesting notes about the build up to and filming of both movies so I decided to spend a good few hours of my time 'extracting' all the passages that mention anything to do with Apes.

 

So if anyone would like to see it let us know and if there is enough interest I'll start posting it. As the whole thing is pretty long It will be best to post it to the group in separate 'digestible chunks'.

 

Neil

 

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From: Michael Whitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 12:26 PM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] The Actor's Life: Journals 1956-1976. (Apes Extracts)

Yes please!

 

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Neil T Foster
Sent: Friday, 2 February 2007 5:30 PM
To: 'PotaDG'
Subject: [PotaDG] The Actor's Life: Journals 1956-1976. (Apes Extracts)

 

Not long ago in response to a post saying there was nothing new to discuss about a 40 year old film I mentioned that I did have some new stuff that I was going to share with the group. Okay, it's not really 'new' but it may be something quite a few of you have never seen.

 

In 1978 Charlton Heston released a book that contained the writings from his daily diary - The Actor's Life: Journals 1956-1976. (1978 - ISBN: 0-525-05030- 2) which of course covered the time that he was filming Planet and Beneath. It contains some very interesting notes about the build up to and filming of both movies so I decided to spend a good few hours of my time 'extracting' all the passages that mention anything to do with Apes.

 

So if anyone would like to see it let us know and if there is enough interest I'll start posting it. As the whole thing is pretty long It will be best to post it to the group in separate 'digestible chunks'.

 

Neil

 

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.html.html In a message dated 2/3/2007 7:55:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, itsthewho@... writes:

T'was i who said there wasn't really anything new to discuss but my nmain point was that this is a very active group for a film thats very nearly forty years old and that i belong to groups about more recent things and they're not nearly so active.

This year is the 40th anniversary of the filming of PLANET OF THE APES (May to August 1967). [The exact dates are in that "Actor's Life" book, but mine is in storage right now.]

It's kind of weird to look at PLANET these days and think that I'm looking at images shot forty years ago.  I think of movies like FRANKENSTEIN (1931) and KING KONG (1933) as really old, yet when I watched those in the late '60s when I was a kid, they were only thirty-something-years-old, now PLANET is older than they were then.

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
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> I also asked the Aussie cricketers to lay off the POMS a bit and as you
> probably know this had immediate effect! :-)
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Thank you Michael ... much appreciated, don't forget to do the same next week for the final !!!

Best wishes Graham.

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of its the who???
Sent: Saturday, 3 February 2007 10:11 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] The Actor's Life: Journals 1956-1976. (Apes Extracts)

T'was i who said there wasn't really anything new to discuss but my nmain point was that this is a very active group for a film thats very nearly forty years old and that i belong to groups about more recent things and they're not nearly so active.

Whilst I'm typing I'd like to apologise for any comments that may have offended anyone...I have to confess to having had a liquid lunch and was somewhat emboldened !!!

 

So sorry chaps and lasses (if there are any lasses!!)

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
Sent: Saturday, 3 February 2007 8:32 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New Home Page picture

Hi Michael, I haven't ... and at the moment I'm playing with photo shop so some of the actual  paintings look quite a bit different than the "Finished" version so I'd feel a bit awkward.. 

Some times after I've finished I go back at a later date and paint a bit more.

The Virdon portrait  in the trading card set was like this so once again the "real" thing now looks quite different than the card.

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2007 12:44 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: The Actor's Life: Journals 1956-1976. (Apes Extracts)

It's kind of weird to look at PLANET these days and think that I'm looking at images shot forty years ago. 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2007 12:44 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: The Actor's Life: Journals 1956-1976. (Apes Extracts)

This year is the 40th anniversary of the filming of PLANET OF THE APES (May to August 1967). [The exact dates are in that "Actor's Life" book, but mine is in storage right now.]

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2007 4:13 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New Home Page picture

 ... much appreciated, don't forget to do the same next week for the final !!!

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2007 7:40 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: The Actor's Life: Journals 1956-1976. (Apes Extracts)

Maybe that’s testimony to Planet being rather timeless, or could be as simple as it was shot in colour on widescreen?

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2007 8:41 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: New Home Page picture

Sorry mate in the final, against NZ, it will be a completely different story!  J

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