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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Friday, 2 February 2007 10:26 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] goin' to Vegas!

There’s a movie about that.....Fear and Loathing, right?  J

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Friday, 2 February 2007 10:31 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: I didn't know that!

Come in here dear boy

Have a cigar

You’re gonna go far.

 

You’re gonna fly high

You’re never gonna die

You’re gonna make it if you try

 

They’re gonna love you.

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2007 10:33 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] The Actor's Life: Journals 1956-1976. (Apes Extracts)

Do you put wine in your bong Neil?

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- No worries Steve, It's lucky I don't get on here after a few wines!
>
> Neil
>
>
I usually do !!! and end up admiting to listening to ABBA records....

Best, Graham.

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
>
> It's because the bloody place is chockers-full of frigging ENGLISHMEN!
>
>
Can't be that full, I thought in the 60's and 70's half the nation scarpered (Spelling ?) to Australia for the easy life...

Best, Graham.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2007 10:49 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: The Actor's Life: Journals 1956-1976. (Apes Extracts)

And it is easier to suspend disbelief?

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True many subjects have been chewed over thoroughly.

But newbies seldom check the archives before asking

about the subject in question.  Yes there is damned

little ground that hasn't been well trodden.

 

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Graham Hill

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 12:43 AM

Subject: [PotaDG] Re: The Actor's Life: Journals 1956-1976. (Apes Extracts)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- No worries Steve, It's lucky I don't get on here after a few wines!
>
> Neil
>
>
I usually do !!! and end up admiting to listening to ABBA records....

Best, Graham.

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In a message dated 2/3/2007 6:09:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:

* Oddly enough, Universal didn't make WILL PENNY, and we didn't shoot APES in England, though I'm damned if I can remember why.

 

 

I'll tell you why.  Not only is the weather crap,

but it looks like Earth.  I guess you could have

shot the interiors there, but can you imagine

Ape City looking like the Teletubie's house?

 

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In a message dated 2/3/2007 7:04:04 P.M. Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:

unlike some of those old Sci-Fi movies that tried to envision 'future modern' things like new buildings, flying cars and robots etc.

 

Strange isn't it.

The flying car won't be in production for a couple of years,

and I heard the same thing like five years ago.  And the

only robots either dance or vacuum your carpet.  The

only thing that's really come true is really big and really

small TVs.  I figured computers would be voice operated

by now.  Anyone who's tried a voice typing program

knows that's going to be a ways off.  The future is TiVo?

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2007 7:30 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: The Actor's Life: Journals 1956-1976. (Apes Extracts)

Strange isn't it.

The flying car won't be in production for a couple of years,

and I heard the same thing like five years ago.  And the

only robots either dance or vacuum your carpet.  The

only thing that's really come true is really big and really

small TVs.  I figured computers would be voice operated

by now.  Anyone who's tried a voice typing program

knows that's going to be a ways off.  The future is TiVo?

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
>
> I think he'll look back on it as his Waterloo!
>
>
>
Ha, good one !!!

Best, Graham.

(On his way to the island know !! )

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- Bloody hell, you're an optimist aren't you Graham?! :-)
>
> Neil
>
>
Positive thinking !!!!

It's the only way to go ... oh and a bottle of Southern Comfort.
Best, Graham.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
>
> Yes please Graham I'd love to know and see more.
>
>
>
As I mentioned the other day Michael, Here's the link to the book mark painting as it looks sat in the corner of the "forbidden Zone"
It stayed pretty much a tonal painting, you probably can just make out bits of colour being introduced, in the past, before Satan tempted me with a box full of endless flashy lights and pixels (PC) I'd have slowly built up the colour with thin layers of transparent colour going over each layer but allowing the previous one to show through.
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w252/hill19652000/bookmarkunderpainting.jpg

Just so you can compare here's the finished one again.

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w252/hill19652000/bookmarksmall.jpg
  It's just an attempt to get the work "completed" quicker.

I'm probably at the stage where all the colour could be done on the PC... but haven't sealed that pact with the devil yet !!

Best, Graham.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Graham Hill
> Sent: Saturday, 3 February 2007 9:32 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New Home Page picture
>
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" whitty@ wrote:
> >
> > Graham,
> >
> > I love them BOTH!
> >
> > Dude, do you sell these?
> >
> >
> Hi Michael, I haven't ... and at the moment I'm playing with photo shop so
> some of the actual paintings look quite a bit different than the "Finished"
> version so I'd feel a bit awkward..
>
> The book mark chimp never got beyond the tonal underpainting all the colour
> was added later on the PC, if I've still got the file on the computer I'll
> show you what I mean.
>
> Some times after I've finished I go back at a later date and paint a bit
> more.
>
> The Virdon portrait in the trading card set was like this so once again the
> "real" thing now looks quite different than the card.
>
> Best, Graham.
>

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Hey Graham, I can set up a meeting if you'd like.
Muhahahahahahahaha!!!!! ;)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
>
> John Z Davis seems to know Satan quite well....... :-)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of
> Graham Hill
> Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2007 10:24 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New Home Page picture
>
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@> wrote:
> >
> > Yes please Graham I'd love to know and see more.
> >
> >
> >
> As I mentioned the other day Michael, Here's the link to the book
mark
> painting as it looks sat in the corner of the "forbidden Zone"
> It stayed pretty much a tonal painting, you probably can just make
out bits
> of colour being introduced, in the past, before Satan tempted me
with a box
> full of endless flashy lights and pixels (PC) I'd have slowly built
up the
> colour with thin layers of transparent colour going over each layer
but
> allowing the previous one to show through.
> http://i178.
>
<http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w252/hill19652000/bookmarkunderpai
nting.
> jpg>
photobucket.com/albums/w252/hill19652000/bookmarkunderpainting.jpg
>
> Just so you can compare here's the finished one again.
>
> http://i178.
>
<http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w252/hill19652000/bookmarksmall.jp
g>
> photobucket.com/albums/w252/hill19652000/bookmarksmall.jpg
> It's just an attempt to get the work "completed" quicker.
>
> I'm probably at the stage where all the colour could be done on the
PC...
> but haven't sealed that pact with the devil yet !!
>
> Best, Graham.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of
> > Graham Hill
> > Sent: Saturday, 3 February 2007 9:32 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New Home Page picture
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" whitty@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Graham,
> > >
> > > I love them BOTH!
> > >
> > > Dude, do you sell these?
> > >
> > >
> > Hi Michael, I haven't ... and at the moment I'm playing with
photo shop so
> > some of the actual paintings look quite a bit different than the
> "Finished"
> > version so I'd feel a bit awkward..
> >
> > The book mark chimp never got beyond the tonal underpainting all
the
> colour
> > was added later on the PC, if I've still got the file on the
computer I'll
> > show you what I mean.
> >
> > Some times after I've finished I go back at a later date and
paint a bit
> > more.
> >
> > The Virdon portrait in the trading card set was like this so once
again
> the
> > "real" thing now looks quite different than the card.
> >
> > Best, Graham.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
>
>
>
>
> --
>

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...you recommended "Six Feet Under" a while back and I am watching it these days – loving it!

Thanks for the recommendation!




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> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On

Behalf Of Michael Whitty

> Hey - speaking of England - I was blown away at Roger Waters' Dark

Side Of The Moon concert in Melbourne last night and he said:

>
> "Lucky we're doing Rock and Roll and not cricket tonight!".

===============================================================

*** Talk about an acausal connection, I was just listening to some
old (Roger Waters era) Pink Floyd recently, especially their final
album together ("The Final Cut"), an underrated masterpiece. Also
Waters' first solo album, "The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking" -- the
American version of the album cover has a ridiculous black bar
covering the naked hitchhiker chick's buttocks. Goddamn, America is
so puritanical it makes my scrotum itch. I like how Roger sings the
lyric (in the 1st song on "Pros and Cons") that goes:

"... Two hitchhikers slumped in the back seat
I sneaked a quick look in the mirror
She gave me a smile
I said "Is anyone HUNGRY?... Should we stop for a while?"

The way he goes from a soft voice through most of that and then sings
the word "HUNGRY" in a deep growl -- you can just imagine him,
driving his car, lusting after the chick hitchhiker. Anybody else dig
that album?

Remember in the film version of "Pink Floyd THE WALL" right before
the 'trial' scene, where Bob Geldof is sitting in a toilet stall
singing to himself? He sings short bits from two songs that AREN'T on
the album of "The Wall" -- the 1st one from "THE FINAL CUT"
song "Your Possible Pasts"...

"Do you remember me? How we used to be? Do you think we should be
closer... closer... closer..."

... and the 2nd one from the last track on "Pros and Cons", "The
Moment of Clarity"...

"And I put out my hand just to touch your soft hair
To make sure in the darkness that you were still there
And I have to admit that I was just a little afraid..."

Geldof sings a few other verses just after this that, for the life of
me, I don't know where they came from (probably from another solo
album of Roger Waters), and then the black security guard opens the
toilet stall door and it seques into "The Trial" in all its animated
glory.

Not that this has anything to do with POTA, except that the cover of
Roger Waters' album "AMUSED TO DEATH" has a chimp on it...

Patrick

P.S. Hey Mike, who played guitar on that "Dark Side" concert? It was
a Roger Waters concert, right? And not a Pink Floyd concert? So David
Gilmore wasn't doing the honors on the guitar, I'd imagine. I know
that they got back together not too long ago in order to do
that "LIVE 8" concert -- as in the G8 summit awareness-raising
concert that had a distinctively anti-Dubya slant to it. But I
haven't heard anything about an on-going Floyd reunion. That reminds
me about how VAN HALEN has David Lee Roth back, but with Eddie's kid
Wolfgang on bass instead of Michael Anthony, who seems on-the-outs
with the Van Halen brothers. Weird.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:

>
> -- Well does anyone on here have the Charlton Heston book 'The Actor's
> Life: Journals 1956-1976'?
>
> Neil

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*** I have a copy. Haven't read it all, though; just the POTA stuff. I
seem to remember that he mentioned somewhere in it that when he saw the
finished version of "BENEATH" that it turned out better than he'd
thought it would. Not that he considered it better than "PLANET" of
course, though Maurice Evans seems to have thought that.

Patrick

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:

>
> hello all.....
> I'm taking off for Las Vegas for a long weekend so I'm
> going to temporarily switch to "no emails" so I won't
> have thousands of messages to catch up on! I'll be
> back on Tuesday and will check in then to see if I
> missed anything!
> Cheers!
> Tim

=======================================================

In other words, "A little less conversation, a little more action,"
right?

The fact that prostitution is legal in certain areas of Nevada, now...
that wouldn't have anything to do with your little excursion, would it?
;)

Have fun, and don't do anything that Mike wouldn't do with a kangaroo
in heat.

Patrick

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , atragon1@... wrote:

>
>
> In a message dated 2/1/2007 5:06:43 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> ntfoster@... writes:
>
> -- Why do you make that assumption? Do you think it would have had

that effect on chimps like Cornelius and Zira? Maybe the thick headed
gorillas would have reacted in that way but all the apes? I'm not so
sure that they would have.

>
> Neil
>
>
>
> ********************************************************************
> Cornelius and Zira were supposed to be the exception to the rule --

they were the only two apes that became sympathetic to humans. If
the rest chimps were so sympathetic, why didn't they protest outside
of Taylor's cell? The chimps were willing to go against the
establishment by protesting the war in BENEATH (a cause the believed
in), but why not Taylor? I guess they didn't care too much...

>
> Getting back to my original question.. How would knowing that

humans were once the dominant species on the planet have helped the
apes in the long term? Any takers?

> Bill
>

=================================================================

*** Remember when Lucius told Julius that "the Anti-Vivisection
Society is up-in-arms... they're gonna save that beast from those
butchers in the lab" etc.?

Of course, he was saying all that as part of a plot to get Julius
konked on the noggin, so as to spring Taylor from his cell. But it
wouldn't surprise me if there WERE such a society of "bleeding heart"
apes -- probably chimpanzees -- who were against the practise of
vivisection. The "animal rights" activists of our world are against
surgical experimentation on animals -- especially on apes. It makes
sense that the simian society -- a satirical version of our own --
would have this element in it.

Does anybody else think it's strange that Julius doesn't recognize
Lucius as being Zira's nephew? You'd think that there would've been
at least a few times during Zira's workday that her nephew would've
visited her at her lab, if for no other reason than to give her some
message or other. But Julius doesn't register any kind of awareness
as to Lucius' identity. Strange.

I would say that there WERE apes (other than Zira and Cornelius) who
were sympathetic to the plight of humans in general, as well as of
Taylor in specific. Remember when Zaius mentions that
Taylor's "friends and simian sponsors" are out on bail? Well, SOMEone
had to have posted their bail. Somebody sympathetic to their legal
plight. The whole point of having that "hearing" was because the
Establishment was in a pickle: this Talking Human had upset the
applecart in such a way that the Academy had to find a way to defuse
the "bomb"... to "dispose" of Taylor in such a way that the public
would be able to sweep their memory of him under the rug... the
memory of him bellowing out "GET YOUR STINKING PAWS OFF ME, YOU DAMN
DIRTY APE!"

They have to resort to having Honorius make the ludicrous charge that
Zira and Dr. Galen surgically "experimented on this wounded animal...
tampering with his brain and throat tissues, to produce a speaking
monster!" Otherwise, how the hell do they explain Taylor's ability to
speak to the Masses? They CAN'T. And they KNOW their explanation is a
bogus one... but they're more concerned with keeping the Status Quo
rather than going on a quest for Scientific Truth.

There HAD to have been a large enough contingent of apes -- probably
mostly chimps -- who were so shaken by the fact that they heard a
human TALK... that the orangutan rulers of their society had to go to
those extreme lengths to put the genie back in the bottle and bury
the bottle where nobody would ever find it again. Otherwise, they
could just kill Taylor, make Cornelius and Zira "disappear"
conveniently, and be done with it.

Patrick

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Haristas@... wrote:

>
> In a message dated 1/31/2007 1:14:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> Willowape@... writes:
>
>
> > Conserve energy. Drive little and small. Support alternative

energies such as; wind, solar, bio fuels and fusion. Our planet
depends on it!

>
> You know what I've been wondering lately is why we can't tap the

energy that must be in the planet's ocean currents?

>
> -- Rory

==============================================================

*** It's probably easier to tap the energy in the oceans' temperature
differential. Surface water is warmer than water nearer to the bottom
of the ocean; an "OTEC" (or, Oceanic Thermal Energy Converter) is a
device designed to make use of the fact that the difference in
temperature of water as a function of depth can produce Work. In
other words, Energy. A dude named Marshall Savage wrote a book in the
early 1990's (I think it was) called "THE MILLENNIAL PROJECT" in
which he proposed the construction of floating cities that could
produce all their energy needs with OTECs, as the first stage in a
long-term plan to colonize Earth... the Moon... Mars... the Solar
System... and, ultimately, the entire Galaxy.

Also, in the movie version of "LOGAN'S RUN" the futuristic City got
its power from the tides, which is why it was built on the eastern
coast of America, due east of Washington D.C. When Logan and Jessica
re-enter the City, they have to swim through an area which gets them
to the Power Center.

I would suggest that the City gets its power not only from the tides,
but also from Solar -- the domes covering the City could easily be
designed to absorb solar radiation the way solar panels do.

To tie this in to POTA, remember how Burke -- in "THE TRAP" --
mentions the fact that the BART station he and Urko are in has still-
working LIGHTS... probably due to the fact that solar energy
converters are probably on the roof of the structure? If not for
that, Burke couldn't have given Urko that electric shock to taser him
into unconsciousness. Lucky for him!

Patrick

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2007 7:04 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Extracts from the book - The Actor's Life: Journals 1956-1976 by...

I'll tell you why.  Not only is the weather crap,

but it looks like Earth.  I guess you could have

shot the interiors there, but can you imagine

Ape City looking like the Teletubie's house?

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2007 9:24 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New Home Page picture

I'm probably at the stage where all the colour could be done on the PC... but haven't sealed that pact with the devil yet !!

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of patrickmichaeltilton
Sent: Monday, 5 February 2007 5:34 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: The Incontinent Truth

Does anybody else think it's strange that Julius doesn't recognize
Lucius as being Zira's nephew? You'd think that there would've been
at least a few times during Zira's workday that her nephew would've
visited her at her lab, if for no other reason than to give her some
message or other. But Julius doesn't register any kind of awareness
as to Lucius' identity. Strange.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of patrickmichaeltilton
Sent: Monday, 5 February 2007 5:44 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re:The Inconvenient Truth

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, Haristas@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 1/31/2007 1:14:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> Willowape@.. . writes:
>
>
> > Conserve energy. Drive little and small. Support alternative
energies such as; wind, solar, bio fuels and fusion. Our planet
depends on it!
>
> You know what I've been wondering lately is why we can't tap the
energy that must be in the planet's ocean currents?
>
> -- Rory
============ ========= ========= ========= ========= ========= =====

*** It's probably easier to tap the energy in the oceans' temperature
differential. Surface water is warmer than water nearer to the bottom
of the ocean; an "OTEC" (or, Oceanic Thermal Energy Converter) is a
device designed to make use of the fact that the difference in
temperature of water as a function of depth can produce Work. In
other words, Energy. A dude named Marshall Savage wrote a book in the
early 1990's (I think it was) called "THE MILLENNIAL PROJECT" in
which he proposed the construction of floating cities that could
produce all their energy needs with OTECs, as the first stage in a
long-term plan to colonize Earth... the Moon... Mars... the Solar
System... and, ultimately, the entire Galaxy.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Sunday, 4 February 2007 6:56 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: The Actor's Life: Journals 1956-1976. (Apes Extracts)

I think he’ll look back on it as his Waterloo!

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--- Michael Whitty <whitty@... > wrote:

> Hey Patrick!
>
> He actually performed quite a few tracks from THE

FINAL CUT (which is VERY underrated).

>
> Nothing from Pros and Cons (which I rate amongst my

5 favourite albums ever) or Radio Chaos.

*** Is the Aussie/Brit version of the album cover
censored like the American one (i.e. with the black
bar over the chick's arse)? Probably not. If you have
a pic of the uncensored version, feel free to send a
jpeg of it to my email address... ;)

>
> He did a complete anti-war; anti-bush set.
>
> His lyrics are absolutely masterful.
>
> Michael

==================================================

*** I agree. Did you see the 1-hour VH1 special (part
of their "Classic Albums" series) on the making of
"DARK SIDE OF THE MOON" by any chance? One of the
mysteries about that album was cleared up for me:
Roger went around with a tape recorder, asking people
if they had ever committed an act of violence against
anybody, and asking them if they were justified in
doing so. When you hear a male voice saying, "I
certainly was in the right" it's his answer to that
question. I always wondered what that background
muttering was all about!

Patrick

--- Michael Whitty <whitty@... > wrote:

> Tell me the lyrics and I'll tell you the songs....
>

*** Right after "... I was just a little afraid"
Geldof sings something that sounds like "... of the
ones who were pointing their guns at our backs..." (?)
and another verse or so. I'd have to watch "THE WALL"
again to be absolutely sure, though.

Patrick

--- Michael Whitty <whitty@... > wrote:

> I think you mean has anyone ever HEARD that album!
> :-)

*** Their loss if they haven't. It's funny how it's
probably the only "rock" album on which Jack Palance's
voice can be heard.

Did Roger Waters ever make any videos from that album?
I seem to recall that there was one video from "THE
FINAL CUT" -- I think it was "The Fletcher Memorial
Home" -- but I've never seen one from "PROS & CONS"...

Patrick

P.S. Welcome back, Rory. Your dreams were your ticket
out...

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Neil, have you been reading HIGH TIMES Magazine?

 

Now it makes sense to me when I saw some guys smokin PVC tubing....;)

Bill

 

In a message dated 2/4/2007 4:11:20 PM Eastern Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:

-- There is another great way to help the planet but you can bet governments and their 'buddies' won't be in it - the use of hemp: 

'The many benefits of Hemp include, but are not limited, to the following : Hemp utilizes the sun more efficiently than virtually any other plant on the planet, reaching 10-20 feet or more in a single short growing season. It can even be grown in almost any climate or soil condition on Earth. Hemp is softer than cotton, warmer than cotton, more water absorbent than cotton, has three times the tensile strength of cotton and many times more durable. 50% of all chemicals used in American agriculture today are used on cotton and Hemp requires no chemicals or pesticides to grow.

Cannabis makes the very best Canvas paper for Art. For centuries, most all of the world's great art used Cannabis Paper. The Dutch word for CANNABIS is CANVAS. Hemp seed oil makes the best oil for paints and varnishes. Up until about 1800, Hemp seed oil was the most consumed lighting oil in America and the world. Hemp is a fuel source. Hemp is the fastest growing biomass source on Earth. Biomass can be converted to methane, methanol or gasoline at a fraction of the cost of oil, coal or nuclear energy. Instead of using fossil fuels, which have been in the Earth for millions of years and pollute the planet while removing it and shipping it around the world, we could be "HARVESTING OXYGEN" by growing a plant source which produces oxygen while it is growing, then when we burn it and produce carbon dioxide, the cycle is balanced.

As a medicine, Cannabis has been used for centuries and continues to be used today for all kinds of ailments including: stress, rheumatism, asthma, delirium tremens, migraine headaches, pms cramps, glaucoma, nausea, tumours, and anorexia. Cannabis / Hemp / Marijuana seeds are the highest source of complete vegetable protein on the entire planet. Soybeans contain a higher percentage of protein but the composition of the protein in Hemp allows more of it to be used by the body. 65 % of the protein in Hemp seeds is in the form of globulin edestin. The high edestin content combined with albumin, another globular protein contained in all seeds means the readily available protein in Hemp seeds contain all the essential amino acids in ideal proportions to assure your body has the necessary building blocks to create proteins like disease fighting immunoglobulin- -antibodies whose job is to ward off infections before the symptoms of sickness set in. Hemp seeds are also the highest known source of Essential Fatty Acids. Essential, meaning (We Couldn't Live Without Them). These Linoleic and Linolenic acids are responsible for the lustre in your skin and hair. They also clear the arteries and rebuild the immune system.

Plastic Plumbing Pipe (PVC) can be manufactured using renewable Hemp cellulose as the chemical feedstock, replacing non-renewable petroleum based chemical feedstock.

The seed oil is a machine grade quality lubricant and can be used to run engines and replace petro-oils completely.'

Neil

 

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- There is another great way to help the planet but you can bet
> governments and their 'buddies' won't be in it - the use of hemp:
>
> 'The many benefits of Hemp include, but are not limited, to the
> following : Hemp utilizes the sun more efficiently than virtually
any
> other plant on the planet, reaching 10-20 feet or more in a single
short
> growing season. It can even be grown in almost any climate or soil
> condition on Earth. Hemp is softer than cotton, warmer than cotton,
more
> water absorbent than cotton, has three times the tensile strength of
> cotton and many times more durable. 50% of all chemicals used in
> American agriculture today are used on cotton and Hemp requires no
> chemicals or pesticides to grow.
>
> Cannabis makes the very best Canvas paper for Art. For centuries,
most
> all of the world's great art used Cannabis Paper. The Dutch word for
> CANNABIS is CANVAS. Hemp seed oil makes the best oil for paints and
> varnishes. Up until about 1800, Hemp seed oil was the most consumed
> lighting oil in America and the world. Hemp is a fuel source. Hemp
is
> the fastest growing biomass source on Earth. Biomass can be
converted to
> methane, methanol or gasoline at a fraction of the cost of oil,
coal or
> nuclear energy. Instead of using fossil fuels, which have been in
the
> Earth for millions of years and pollute the planet while removing
it and
> shipping it around the world, we could be "HARVESTING OXYGEN" by
growing
> a plant source which produces oxygen while it is growing, then when
we
> burn it and produce carbon dioxide, the cycle is balanced.
>
> As a medicine, Cannabis has been used for centuries and continues
to be
> used today for all kinds of ailments including: stress, rheumatism,
> asthma, delirium tremens, migraine headaches, pms cramps, glaucoma,
> nausea, tumours, and anorexia. Cannabis / Hemp / Marijuana seeds
are the
> highest source of complete vegetable protein on the entire planet.
> Soybeans contain a higher percentage of protein but the composition
of
> the protein in Hemp allows more of it to be used by the body. 65 %
of
> the protein in Hemp seeds is in the form of globulin edestin. The
high
> edestin content combined with albumin, another globular protein
> contained in all seeds means the readily available protein in Hemp
seeds
> contain all the essential amino acids in ideal proportions to assure
> your body has the necessary building blocks to create proteins like
> disease fighting immunoglobulin--antibodies whose job is to ward off
> infections before the symptoms of sickness set in. Hemp seeds are
also
> the highest known source of Essential Fatty Acids. Essential,
meaning
> (We Couldn't Live Without Them). These Linoleic and Linolenic acids
are
> responsible for the lustre in your skin and hair. They also clear
the
> arteries and rebuild the immune system.
>
> Plastic Plumbing Pipe (PVC) can be manufactured using renewable Hemp
> cellulose as the chemical feedstock, replacing non-renewable
petroleum
> based chemical feedstock.
>
> The seed oil is a machine grade quality lubricant and can be used
to run
> engines and replace petro-oils completely.'
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of patrickmichaeltilton
> Sent: Monday, 5 February 2007 5:44 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re:The Inconvenient Truth
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com,
> Haristas@ wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 1/31/2007 1:14:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > Willowape@ writes:
> >
> >
> > > Conserve energy. Drive little and small. Support alternative
> energies such as; wind, solar, bio fuels and fusion. Our planet
> depends on it!
> >
> > You know what I've been wondering lately is why we can't tap the
> energy that must be in the planet's ocean currents?
> >
> > -- Rory
> ==============================================================
>
> *** It's probably easier to tap the energy in the oceans'
temperature
> differential. Surface water is warmer than water nearer to the
bottom
> of the ocean; an "OTEC" (or, Oceanic Thermal Energy Converter) is a
> device designed to make use of the fact that the difference in
> temperature of water as a function of depth can produce Work. In
> other words, Energy. A dude named Marshall Savage wrote a book in
the
> early 1990's (I think it was) called "THE MILLENNIAL PROJECT" in
> which he proposed the construction of floating cities that could
> produce all their energy needs with OTECs, as the first stage in a
> long-term plan to colonize Earth... the Moon... Mars... the Solar
> System... and, ultimately, the entire Galaxy.
>
>
> .
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?
s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
> sgId=43313/stime=1170618296/nc1=1/nc2=2/nc3=3>
>

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In a message dated 2/4/2007 2:51:11 P.M. Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:

You've never been anywhere near England have you T?

 

Oh yes I have.

I can't believe you'd make such a statement, Neil

That sounds like something Mike would say...

Like he knows me!

 

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In a message dated 2/4/2007 2:51:11 P.M. Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:

I could find you some places that don't look like Earth there.

 

Oh yeah . . . the vast trackless deserts of Great Britain.

I forgot about those.  With their huge pinnacles and monuments.

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Monday, 5 February 2007 9:27 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Extracts from the book - The Actor's Life: Journals 1956-1976 by...

In a message dated 2/4/2007 2:51:11 P.M. Central Standard Time, ntfoster@bigpond. com writes:

You've never been anywhere near England have you T?

 

Oh yes I have.

I can't believe you'd make such a statement, Neil

That sounds like something Mike would say...

Like he knows me!

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Monday, 5 February 2007 9:30 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Extracts from the book - The Actor's Life: Journals 1956-1976 by...

In a message dated 2/4/2007 2:51:11 P.M. Central Standard Time, ntfoster@bigpond. com writes:

I could find you some places that don't look like Earth there.

 

Oh yeah . . . the vast trackless deserts of Great Britain.

I forgot about those.  With their huge pinnacles and monuments.

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But the chimp is a reference to the beginning of 2001 - A Space
Oddessy.

Waters sought permission to have snippets from the film in "Perfect
Sense". It was denied by Kubrick.

Since he died his estate allowed Waters to use 2001 references so he
does so in concerts now.

Patrick - if he goes to your town or nearby - GET THERE!

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "patrickmichaeltilton"
<patrickmichaeltilton@...> wrote:

>
>
> Not that this has anything to do with POTA, except that the cover

of

> Roger Waters' album "AMUSED TO DEATH" has a chimp on it...
>
> Patrick

Yeah - no Gilmour :(

It was Snowy WHite - a great guitarist but nobody comes close to
Gilmour.

It's unlikely Gilmour will rejoin for a tour.

Mason (drummer) started the DSOTM Tour with Roger, but only 2 dates.

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "patrickmichaeltilton"
<patrickmichaeltilton@...> wrote:

>

>
> P.S. Hey Mike, who played guitar on that "Dark Side" concert? It

was

> a Roger Waters concert, right? And not a Pink Floyd concert? So

David

> Gilmore wasn't doing the honors on the guitar, I'd imagine. I know
> that they got back together not too long ago in order to do
> that "LIVE 8" concert -- as in the G8 summit awareness-raising
> concert that had a distinctively anti-Dubya slant to it. But I
> haven't heard anything about an on-going Floyd reunion. That

reminds

> me about how VAN HALEN has David Lee Roth back, but with Eddie's

kid

> Wolfgang on bass instead of Michael Anthony, who seems on-the-outs
> with the Van Halen brothers. Weird.
>

Yeah - no Gilmour :(

It was Snowy WHite - a great guitarist but nobody comes close to
Gilmour.

It's unlikely Gilmour will rejoin for a tour.

Mason (drummer) started the DSOTM Tour with Roger, but only 2 dates.

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "patrickmichaeltilton"
<patrickmichaeltilton@...> wrote:

>

>
> P.S. Hey Mike, who played guitar on that "Dark Side" concert? It

was

> a Roger Waters concert, right? And not a Pink Floyd concert? So

David

> Gilmore wasn't doing the honors on the guitar, I'd imagine. I know
> that they got back together not too long ago in order to do
> that "LIVE 8" concert -- as in the G8 summit awareness-raising
> concert that had a distinctively anti-Dubya slant to it. But I
> haven't heard anything about an on-going Floyd reunion. That

reminds

> me about how VAN HALEN has David Lee Roth back, but with Eddie's

kid

> Wolfgang on bass instead of Michael Anthony, who seems on-the-outs
> with the Van Halen brothers. Weird.
>

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Monday, 5 February 2007 1:00 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: I didn't know that!

Yeah - no Gilmour :(

It was Snowy WHite -

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In a message dated 2/3/2007 7:02:08 PM Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:

-- Plus it's not the sort of future that looks dated as that future was less technologically advanced than we were / are now, unlike some of those old Sci-Fi movies that tried to envision 'future modern' things like new buildings, flying cars and robots etc.

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In a message dated 2/4/2007 1:20:06 PM Central Standard Time, patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:

I seem to remember that he mentioned somewhere in it that when he saw the
finished version of "BENEATH" that it turned out better than he'd
thought it would. Not that he considered it better than "PLANET" of
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.html In a message dated 2/4/2007 1:39:21 PM Central Standard Time, patrickmichaeltilton@... writes:

Does anybody else think it's strange that Julius doesn't recognize
Lucius as being Zira's nephew? You'd think that there would've been
at least a few times during Zira's workday that her nephew would've
visited her at her lab, if for no other reason than to give her some
message or other. But Julius doesn't register any kind of awareness
as to Lucius' identity. Strange.

I don't think it's weird at all... I mean why would she have sent someone in that "would" be recognized? That doesn't make any sense... The whole escape plot was supposed to be kept under wraps, so why start it off by having a familiar face be the one sent in to break Taylor out?

And besides, how often does your nephew visit you at work? If it's like most any other work places, visitors (even relatives) are frowned upon... Why would the apes be any differnt with that?

"GET YOUR STINKING PAWS OFF ME, YOU DAMN DIRTY APE!"

TAKE your stinking paws off me you damn dirty ape! TAKE, TAKE, TAKE!!!!
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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Monday, 5 February 2007 5:22 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: I didn't know that!

That’s been voted the best guitar solo ever....

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil T Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- I'm glad to hear that. Seems like almost everything is coloured on a
> computer these days especially comics.
>
> Neil
>
>
I think it's the way they use photo shop at the minute that sort of irritates me.

I think it's a great tool particularly as it can "ape" certain ways of painting if approached in the right way... but in comics they sort of do a "supped" (is that even a word?) version of their old way of colouring.

There's no reason now to still have a black line, which really only evolved because the printing was so bad.

I don't know if any one has seen the work of Alex Malvee, he's sort of working towards a paintly style where all those old divisions of penciler, inker, colourist has sort of dissolved.

Here's one of his panels.

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w252/hill19652000/malvee1.jpg

If it was me I'd have got rid of more of the black contour lines ...

but it's interesting work.

Best, Graham.

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In a message dated 2/4/2007 5:51:57 P.M. Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:

And like I said, I could still point you to areas in England that could have been used which don't look Earth like and which aren't trackless deserts.

 

How about a few travelogue photos???

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Monday, 5 February 2007 9:59 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: I didn't know that!

Your vote?

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
Sent: Monday, 5 February 2007 11:15 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New Home Page picture

I don't know if any one has seen the work of Alex Malvee, he's sort of working towards a paintly style where all those old divisions of penciler, inker, colourist has sort of dissolved.

Here's one of his panels.

http://i178. photobucket. com/albums/ w252/hill1965200 0/malvee1. jpg

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <whitty@...> wrote:
>
> That's very effective!
>
>
It certainly is...

Here's another panel

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w252/hill19652000/malvee2.jpg

It just shows, it's not the media but lazy artist !!!

Best wishes Graham.

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Tuesday, 6 February 2007 5:26 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Extracts from the book - The Actor's Life: Journals 1956-1976 by...

In a message dated 2/4/2007 5:51:57 P.M. Central Standard Time, ntfoster@bigpond. com writes:

And like I said, I could still point you to areas in England that could have been used which don't look Earth like and which aren't trackless deserts.

 

How about a few travelogue photos???

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In a message dated 2/5/2007 2:47:17 P.M. Central Standard Time, whitty@... writes:

How about a few travelogue photos???

 

No, other worldly England other than the Teletubies' house.

 

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In a message dated 2/5/2007 3:20:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:

Lovely area the Lake District, did you visit it when you were over there?

 

No.

And sorry, but it just looks like England to me.

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Tuesday, 6 February 2007 7:25 AM
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Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Extracts from the book - The Actor's Life: Journals 1956-1976 by...

In a message dated 2/5/2007 3:20:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, ntfoster@bigpond. com writes:

Lovely area the Lake District, did you visit it when you were over there?

 

No.

And sorry, but it just looks like England to me.

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-- You know what, re-reading some of the passages like this one I get
the impression that Heston could be quite a two faced so and so at times.

Neil

> April 16. I also spent some time musing how to get a better script on
> APES. Arthur Jacobs is so difficult and slippery a character to deal
> with, I hardly know where to begin.

Just come across this interview as I do the rounds of all the comics news sites (A Monday evening task !!)

Have n't read it yet, thought I'ld alert people to it before I lost the link !!

Best, Graham.

http://www.collectortimes.com/Clubhouse.html"

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
Sent: Tuesday, 6 February 2007 8:10 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Ty Templeton interview

Just come across this interview as I do the rounds of all the comics news sites (A Monday evening task !!)

Have n't read it yet, thought I'ld alert people to it before I lost the link !!

Best, Graham.

http://www.collecto rtimes.com/ Clubhouse..html"

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Tuesday, 6 February 2007 4:45 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Extracts from the book - The Actor's Life: Journals 1956-1976 by...

In the red desert of Australia near Ayre’s Rock – now THAT”S alien looking!

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Not only that, but Australia has already proven to be a marvel of
animal evolution so talking apes would fit right in.

Neil, while I've always realized England could have been used as a
location for POTA filming, I never realized how vaste and desolate it
could be until I saw those pics you posted. One of the pics even had a
river running through it in the backgroud that would have been needed
for POTA. Thanks.

I also wanted to add a bit about Heston's boigraphy. I do have it and
have read the POTA parts, but I wanted to mention to those that don't
have it that there is in fact very little (relatively speaking) about
POTA in it. I thought that there would be more. I would not categorize
this as a "must have" collector item. Especially now that Neil was
smart enough to figure out that it makes ideal for POTADG fodder.

I'm not going to say that Heston was a great man, but in all fairness
it should be pointed out that whatever is in those journals was
originally intended to be a personal diary and that is why we get to
read about some blunt assessments of people he worked with. The
positive side is that these are probably brutally honest opinions of
his that we would not have known otherwise. The flip side is that he
becomes exposed by their revelations. So what would have been better?
Keep it all to himself, or publish his memoirs as he did?

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: Neil T Foster <ntfoster@...>
Date: Tuesday, February 6, 2007 3:52 am
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Extracts from the book - The Actor's Life:
Journals 1956-1976 by...

> -- Very good point. There are an awful lot of locations that you
could
> use in Australia that are very, very unearthly (and some of the
people
> as well, not you Mr. Whitty, honest!) :-)
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Michael Whitty
> Sent: Tuesday, 6 February 2007 4:45 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Extracts from the book - The Actor's Life:
> Journals 1956-1976 by...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In the red desert of Australia near Ayre's Rock - now THAT"S alien
> looking!
>
> .
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?
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> sgId=43360/stime=1170744344/nc1=3848618/nc2=3858796/nc3=4299908>
>
>
>

Had great long weekend in Vegas....Cirque du Soliel's "Beatles" show "LOVE" rocked! A mix of
Cirque, Beatles, Dr. Seuss, "HAIR" and an acid trip!
Did I miss anything here?
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In a message dated 2/5/2007 3:38:30 P.M. Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:

-- And the desert in Planet just looks like a desert in America to me.

 

Yeah, but then so does Mars.

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dario Sciola
Sent: Wednesday, 7 February 2007 12:06 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: RE: [PotaDG] Extracts from the book - The Actor's Life: Journals 1956-1976 by...

Neil, while I've always realized England could have been used as a
location for POTA filming, I never realized how vaste and desolate it
could be until I saw those pics you posted. One of the pics even had a
river running through it in the backgroud that would have been needed
for POTA. Thanks.

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In a message dated 2/5/2007 4:07:20 P.M. Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:

could be quite a two faced so and so at times.

Neil

 

Who? Neil? 

Oh, Heston.

 

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The problem is, with the exception of the B&W pic

you can see living grasses.  The very thing they said

their wasn't any of when they landed.  That's what

made finding that single flower so dramatic.

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In a message dated 2/5/2007 4:07:20 P.M. Central Standard Time, ntfoster@bigpond. com writes:

could be quite a two faced so and so at times.

Neil

 

Who? Neil? 

Oh, Heston.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Wednesday, 7 February 2007 7:39 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Extracts from the book - The Actor's Life: Journals 1956-197...

In a message dated 2/5/2007 4:07:20 P.M. Central Standard Time, ntfoster@bigpond. com writes:

could be quite a two faced so and so at times.

Neil

 

Who? Neil? 

Oh, Heston.

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