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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45523 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/3/2007 |
| Subject: "POTA does not sell." |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45524 |
From: PofTAfan@aol.com |
Date: 8/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45525 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45526 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45527 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45528 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45529 |
From: Graham Hill |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45530 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45531 |
From: PofTAfan@aol.com |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45532 |
From: Steve |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Would ANYONE do a good job NOW? |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45533 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45534 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45535 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45536 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45537 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45538 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Rory's "POTA does sell." |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45539 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45540 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sPell." |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45541 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Fan presence at conventions. |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45542 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: King Kong |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45543 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Terror"fying" |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45544 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45545 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong vs POTA2001 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45546 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong vs POTA2001 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45547 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong vs POTA2001 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45548 |
From: HollowedOut |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Bounded comics... ahhhhhhhhhh. |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45549 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Bounded comics... ahhhhhhhhhh. |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45550 |
From: John |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Bounded comics... ahhhhhhhhhh. |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45551 |
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Birthday Reminder |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45552 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45553 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45554 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong vs POTA2001 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45555 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45556 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Would ANYONE do a good job NOW? |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45557 |
From: Neil |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45558 |
From: Neil |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45559 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong vs POTA2001 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45560 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Bounded comics... ahhhhhhhhhh. |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45561 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45562 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Bounded comics... ahhhhhhhhhh. |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45563 |
From: Neil |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45564 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Rory's "POTA does sell." |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45565 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45566 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45567 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Rory's "POTA does sell." |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45568 |
From: PofTAfan@aol.com |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Rory's "POTA does sell." |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45569 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45570 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong vs POTA2001 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45571 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Would ANYONE do a good job NOW? |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45572 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong vs POTA2001 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45573 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Bounded comics... ahhhhhhhhhh. |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45574 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Rory's "POTA does sell." |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45575 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45576 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong vs POTA2001 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45577 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45578 |
From: gp3085 |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Bound comics... ahhhhhhhhhh. |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45579 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Rory's "POTA does sell." |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45580 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Rory's "POTA does sell." |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45581 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Back from Comic Con. |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45582 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Rory's "POTA does sell." |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45583 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Would ANYONE do a good job NOW? |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45584 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Would ANYONE do a good job NOW? |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45585 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Bound comics... ahhhhhhhhhh. |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45586 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Bound comics... ahhhhhhhhhh. |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45587 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong vs POTA2001 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45588 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Would ANYONE do a good job NOW? |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45589 |
From: PofTAfan@aol.com |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Back from Comic Con. |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45590 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Rory's "POTA does sell." |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45591 |
From: gp3085 |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Bound comics... ahhhhhhhhhh. |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45592 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Back from Comic Con. |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45593 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong vs POTA2001 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45594 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Amazing Planet of the Apes 1974 Cornelius scene montage |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45595 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Bound comics... ahhhhhhhhhh. |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45596 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Amazing Planet of the Apes 1974 Cornelius scene montage |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45597 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: That Chewy 'Apes' Pez dispenser! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45598 |
From: gp3085 |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Bound comics... ahhhhhhhhhh. |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45599 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45600 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Bound comics... ahhhhhhhhhh. |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45601 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not smell." |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45602 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Rory's "POTA does sell." |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45603 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Amazing Planet of the Apes 1974 Cornelius scene montage |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45604 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: That Chewy 'Apes' Pez dispenser! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45605 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45606 |
From: patrickmichaeltilton |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: OT: Simpsons barely beat Apes |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45607 |
From: patrickmichaeltilton |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Calendar musings |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45608 |
From: Wendy Kostora |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Fan presence at conventions. |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45609 |
From: Wendy Kostora |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong vs POTA2001 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45610 |
From: Wendy Kostora |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Rory's "POTA does sell." |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45611 |
From: Wendy Kostora |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Rory's "POTA does sell." |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45612 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Bounded comics... ahhhhhhhhhh. |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45613 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Would ANYONE do a good job NOW? |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45614 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45615 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: That Chewy 'Apes' Pez dispenser! |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45616 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45617 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Calendar musings |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45618 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Rory's "POTA does sell." |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45619 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Calendar musings |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45620 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong vs POTA2001 |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45621 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: OT: Simpsons barely beat Apes |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45622 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Fan presence at conventions. |
|
| Group: potadg |
Message: 45523 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/3/2007 |
| Subject: "POTA does not sell." |
.html.html
I think it was Kevin who mentioned Ploog (or
someone at ComiCon) said POTA does not sell.
Do we think this is a correct analysis?
Why do we think this is so?
Michael
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45524 |
From: PofTAfan@aol.com |
Date: 8/3/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
.htmlI was talking to one of the retailers at the Sideshow
booth and I asked him would it be possible to have a diorama made of
Taylor and Nova looking at the remains of the Statue of Liberty and he
told me that the Planet of the apes merchandise
wasn't selling like they wanted to. I said that I missed Ploog at the
con, it would have been nice to see a great artist like Ploog.
Maybe next year when I go to the 2008 Comic-con, I hope
to see him there.
Kevin
-----Original Message-----
From: mwhitty < mwhitty@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 9:32 pm
Subject: [PotaDG] "POTA does not sell."
I think it was Kevin who mentioned Ploog (or
someone at ComiCon) said POTA does not sell.
Do we think this is a correct analysis?
Why do we think this is so?
Michael
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45525 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
.html.html
When I telephoned
Japan and spoke
to the guy at MEDICOM I got the same impression.
I gave him suggestions about what the fans
wanted to see and he replied “sure, YOU put up the money and see how you go!”
I think POTA leaves a bitter taste for
most people trying to make money off it.
Certainly the action figures of late do
now seem to have done well. Then again, those SIDESHOWS are sure as hell
PRICEY!
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@...
Sent: Saturday, 4 August 2007 2:02
PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] "POTA
does not sell."
I was
talking to one of the retailers at the Sideshow
booth and I asked him would it be possible to have a diorama made of
Taylor and Nova
looking at the remains of the Statue of Liberty and he
told me that the Planet of the apes merchandise
wasn't selling like they wanted to. I said that I missed Ploog at the
con, it would have been nice to see a great artist like Ploog.
Maybe next year when I go to the 2008 Comic-con, I hope
to see him there.
Kevin
-----Original Message-----
From: mwhitty <mwhitty@optusnet. com.au>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 9:32 pm
Subject: [PotaDG] "POTA does not sell."
I think it was Kevin who mentioned Ploog (or
someone at ComiCon) said POTA does not sell.
Do we think this is a correct analysis?
Why do we think this is so?
Michael
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45526 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
.html
.html
Message
-- Because there
are very few hardcore POTA fans around the world and not all of them will
buy everything. POTA's not popular, that's why POTA doesn't
sell.
Neil
I think it was Kevin
who mentioned Ploog (or someone at ComiCon) said POTA does not
sell.
Do we think this is
a correct analysis?
Why do we think this
is so?
.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45527 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
.html
.html
In a message dated 8/4/2007 2:13:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
ntfoster@... writes:
POTA's
not popular
I disagree, and I think the numbers on
opening weekend support this. But
there has to be something to like.
Gone is the day of slapping the
POTA name on something
just to sell it. It has to be
good. You can only
push people so far.
Beneath and the
new one proved
it definitively.
Get a sneak peek of the all-new
AOL.com.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45528 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
.html
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Message
-- That opening
weekend was six years ago! I think that any lingering nostalgia there might have
been for Apes back then has long since gone by now.
Neil
In a message dated 8/4/2007 2:13:39 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
ntfoster@bigpond. com writes:
POTA's not
popular
I disagree, and I think the numbers on
opening weekend support this.
.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45529 |
From: Graham Hill |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote: > > -- Because there are very few hardcore POTA fans around the world and
> not all of them will buy everything. POTA's not popular, that's why POTA > doesn't sell. > > Neil >
I think the age of "Ape Fans" comes in to play a bit.
Obviously it's a bit of a generalisation but because most / majority are in their 40's I'd say a high percentage of these just don't have as much disposable income because
of life's commitments , mortgage / house , kids, car , the joys of being an adult.
So as you say Neil they're very picky about what they'll buy and as Michael said the Sideshow figures were a bit on the pricey side (particularly the double packs and the specials)
(It would be interesting to see any figures on what the sales of their Ape line was compared to say their WW II range etc.)
Does Apes sell ? may be , does Apes sell what a manufacturer thinks it will / should ?
probably not .
Best, Graham.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45530 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
.html.html
I regretfully agree. I mean people
also went to see the BRADY BUNCH remake, but then seemed to realise they
actually never LIKED it in the first place.
And how many people claim to be POTA fans
but can’t even get the basics right?
I am afraid people might have seen the
POTA logo and said yeah – I remember that show/movie etc” and for
the sake of nostalgia, they have bought a comic or a movie ticket, but is there
really a money spending fan base????
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Saturday, 4 August 2007 7:12
PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] "POTA
does not sell."
-- That opening weekend was six years ago! I think that
any lingering nostalgia there might have been for Apes back then has long since
gone by now.
Neil
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
[ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ]
On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007
6:48 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] "POTA
does not sell."
In a message dated 8/4/2007 2:13:39 A.M. Central Daylight
Time, ntfoster@bigpond. com writes:
POTA's not popular
I disagree, and I think the numbers on
opening weekend support this.

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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45531 |
From: PofTAfan@aol.com |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
.htmlWhen I was at the Con in San Diego, I was wearing my Planet
of the Apes t-shirt with Zira on the front and I had several people
asked me about the shirt I was wearing. The problem with apes is that
the
business community doesn't see any money in it. I also see that these
so-called shirts like to see these fan clubs at these convention, I saw
the usual fan clubs at the convention(i.e Star Wars, Star Trek)
and other major fan clubs, I even saw smaller fan clubs at the con,
including a Battle of the Planet fan club who I talked to one of their
members and he told me that they have thousands of members
worldwide, but only 35 of 40 members show up.
Apes could sell, but in my opinion only if ape fans show up
in numbers. We should show up at these convention and show our love to
Apes, even if 10 people show up.
Kevin
-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Foster < ntfoster@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 4 Aug 2007 3:13 am
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] "POTA does not sell."
-- Because there
are very few hardcore POTA fans around the world and not all of them
will
buy everything. POTA's not popular, that's why POTA doesn't
sell.
Neil
-----Original Message-----
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
mwhitty
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 11:33 AM
To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] "POTA does not
sell."
I think it was Kevin
who mentioned Ploog (or someone at ComiCon) said POTA does not
sell.
Do we think this is
a correct analysis?
Why do we think this
is so?
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Message: 45532 |
From: Steve |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
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Marvel "Terror on the Planet of the Apes" story.
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Message: 45533 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
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Well, what was popular at the Con? Star
Wars? Star Trek? Superheroes? Why do those sell? Maybe because those have had
recent revivals. Even Star Wars, the prequels are considered crap but Lucas
keeps the originals promoted. Star Trek was considered to have run it's course
but Paramount is putting out an exciting new movie by a big player, J.J. Abrams
(L. Nimoy said he's back because of Abrams and the script). And of course we
know the studios are squeezing every last dime out of the superheroes, including
Fox. When the "Hulk" didn't work they tried it again.
Meanwhile, most agree POTA2001 didn't work.
That means we have to go back to POTA Old School, which is getting dusty to pop
culture 40 years later. Unless something "new" happens that works, meaning a
movie or TV show, not a comic, POTA will be a niche relegated to ebay. That's
all there is to it. Why do you think Lucas is doing Star Wars TV shows even
though the story is supposedly over? Out of sight, out of mind.
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 12:13
AM
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] "POTA does not
sell."
-- Because there
are very few hardcore POTA fans around the world and not all of them will
buy everything. POTA's not popular, that's why POTA doesn't
sell.
Neil
I think it was
Kevin who mentioned Ploog (or someone at ComiCon) said POTA does not
sell.
Do we think this
is a correct analysis?
Why do we think
this is
so?
.
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Message: 45534 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
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Let's face it, Sideshow has quite a lineup.
I think they have everything! Star Wars, Star Trek, Terminator, Lord of the
Rings...I can't blame them for making what sells.
Maybe POTA needs a company that's hungry,
but it's only going to work if Fox gets behind it and they've got a full dance
card too. It's funny how many people in the biz are Apes fans (the Sideshow
folks, Todd McFarlane, off the top of my head) yet POTA can't get arrested. Fox
has REALLY screwed things up. Jeff
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 3:07
AM
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: "POTA does not
sell."
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Neil
Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote: > > -- Because there are very
few hardcore POTA fans around the world and > not all of them will buy
everything. POTA's not popular, that's why POTA > doesn't sell. >
> Neil >
I think the age of "Ape Fans" comes in to play a
bit.
Obviously it's a bit of a generalisation but
because most / majority are in their 40's I'd say a high percentage of these
just don't have as much disposable income because of life's commitments ,
mortgage / house , kids, car , the joys of being an adult.
So as you say Neil they're very picky about what
they'll buy and as Michael said the Sideshow figures were a bit on the pricey
side (particularly the double packs and the specials)
(It would be interesting to see any figures on
what the sales of their Ape line was compared to say their WW II range
etc.)
Does Apes sell ? may be , does Apes sell
what a manufacturer thinks it will / should ?
probably not .
Best, Graham.
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Message: 45535 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
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I wonder how Linda Harrison's business is
doing selling autographs at conventions. She has the ear of Dick Zanuck,
producer of POTA2001. Maybe she can tell him to get on the ball!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 10:25
AM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: "POTA does not
sell."
Let's face it, Sideshow has quite a
lineup. I think they have everything! Star Wars, Star Trek, Terminator, Lord
of the Rings...I can't blame them for making what sells.
Maybe POTA needs a company that's hungry,
but it's only going to work if Fox gets behind it and they've got a full dance
card too. It's funny how many people in the biz are Apes fans (the Sideshow
folks, Todd McFarlane, off the top of my head) yet POTA can't get arrested.
Fox has REALLY screwed things up. Jeff
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 3:07
AM
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: "POTA does not
sell."
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Neil
Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote: > > -- Because there are
very few hardcore POTA fans around the world and > not all of them
will buy everything. POTA's not popular, that's why POTA > doesn't
sell. > > Neil >
I think the age of "Ape Fans" comes in to play
a bit.
Obviously it's a bit of a generalisation but
because most / majority are in their 40's I'd say a high percentage of these
just don't have as much disposable income because of life's commitments ,
mortgage / house , kids, car , the joys of being an adult.
So as you say Neil they're very picky about
what they'll buy and as Michael said the Sideshow figures were a bit on the
pricey side (particularly the double packs and the specials)
(It would be interesting to see any figures on
what the sales of their Ape line was compared to say their WW II range
etc.)
Does Apes sell ? may be , does Apes sell
what a manufacturer thinks it will / should ?
probably not .
Best, Graham.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45536 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
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In a message dated 8/4/2007 1:36:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:
I wonder how Linda Harrison's business is doing selling autographs at conventions. She has the ear of
Dick Zanuck, producer of POTA2001. Maybe she can tell him to get on the ball!
Why? So, he can make another piece of crap about a concept he doesn't understand? Give me a break. Screw Zanuck. He's the one responsible for blowing up the world at the end of BENEATH,
then he helped destroy the concept with POTA2001. Damn him all to hell!
He's an old fart now anyway.
-- Rory
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Message: 45537 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
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In a message dated 8/4/2007 1:12:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@... writes:
POTA will be a niche relegated to ebay
Someday all those that saw the POTA movies in their original theatrical runs will be dead, then will there be any POTA fans or not?
Try not to think about it too much, you may not like what you conclude.
-- Rory
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45538 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Rory's "POTA does sell." |
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Yeah Rory she should ask YOU to bankroll a
new movie!
Seriously Rory, if they do a new movie
(and they WILL!), what do you think the story should be? Not just from
and ape fan POV, but something people would come and pay to see…?
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2007 4:09
AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: "POTA
does not sell."
In a message dated 8/4/2007 1:36:54 PM Eastern
Standard Time, veetus@earthlink. net writes:
I wonder how Linda Harrison's business is doing selling
autographs at conventions. She has the ear of Dick Zanuck, producer of
POTA2001. Maybe she can tell him to get on the ball!
Why? So, he can make another piece of crap about a concept he doesn't
understand? Give me a break. Screw Zanuck. He's the one
responsible for blowing up the world at the end of BENEATH, then he helped
destroy the concept with POTA2001. Damn him all to hell!
He's an old fart now anyway.
-- Rory
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45539 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
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Sadly, I think there will still be those
who CAIM to be! J
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2007 4:06
AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: "POTA
does not sell."
In a message dated 8/4/2007 1:12:45 PM Eastern
Standard Time, veetus@earthlink. net writes:
POTA will be a niche relegated to ebay
Someday all those that saw the POTA movies in their original theatrical runs
will be dead, then will there be any POTA fans or not?
Try not to think about it too much, you may not like what you conclude.
-- Rory
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45540 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sPell." |
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That’s cLaim…sorry!
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of mwhitty
Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2007 7:50
AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re:
"POTA does not sell."
Sadly, I think there will still be those who CAIM to be!
J
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Haristas@aol. com
Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2007 4:06
AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: "POTA does
not sell."
In
a message dated 8/4/2007 1:12:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@earthlink. net
writes:
POTA will be
a niche relegated to ebay
Someday all those that saw the POTA movies in their original theatrical runs
will be dead, then will there be any POTA fans or not?
Try not to think about it too much, you may not like what you conclude.
-- Rory
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45541 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Fan presence at conventions. |
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You know if there wasn’t this whopping
great ocean between us I would certainly travel around the COUNTRY, but it’s
just TOOO far!
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@...
Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2007 12:41
AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] "POTA
does not sell."
When I
was at the Con in San Diego ,
I was wearing my Planet
of the Apes t-shirt with Zira on the front and I had several people
asked me about the shirt I was wearing. The problem with apes is that
the
business community doesn't see any money in it. I also see that these
so-called shirts like to see these fan clubs at these convention, I saw
the usual fan clubs at the convention(i. e Star Wars, Star Trek)
and other major fan clubs, I even saw smaller fan clubs at the con,
including a Battle
of the Planet fan club who I talked to one of their
members and he told me that they have thousands of members
worldwide, but only 35 of 40 members show up.
Apes could sell, but in my opinion only if ape fans show up
in numbers. We should show up at these convention and show our love to
Apes, even if 10 people show up.
Kevin
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45542 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: King Kong |
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I guess you would compare it to King Kong.
I’m fairly sure most people who saw
this in the original theatrical release are dust by now.
But it has a great story and great FX for
the time.
Same with POTA.
So I imagine there would still be fans
Rory, don’t you think?
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2007 4:06
AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: "POTA
does not sell."
In a message dated 8/4/2007 1:12:45 PM Eastern
Standard Time, veetus@earthlink. net writes:
POTA will be a niche relegated to ebay
Someday all those that saw the POTA movies in their original theatrical runs
will be dead, then will there be any POTA fans or not?
Try not to think about it too much, you may not like what you conclude.
-- Rory
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45543 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Terror"fying" |
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Nooooo!!!! Brains in the jar? C’mon!!!
Actually it would be better than what Mr
Burton did….hmmm….
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2007 12:51
AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Would ANYONE
do a good job NOW?
I for one wouldn't mind seeing a well made big screen
adaptaion of the
Marvel "Terror on the Planet of the Apes" story.
New characters, lots of apes, something for old and young alike!!
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45544 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong |
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In a message dated 8/4/2007 5:19:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
mwhitty@... writes:
I guess you would
compare it to King Kong.
I'm fairly sure most
people who saw this in the original theatrical release are dust by
now.
But it has a great
story and great FX for the time.
Now see . . . there's a great example.
After LOTR I thought Jackson would have been
a better choice for director for a POTA redo.
But, as we saw, it got the same Hollywood
treatment. Big Budget FX and 2nd rate writing.
And he was also a supposed fan of the material.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45545 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong vs POTA2001 |
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But you can’t say KK was as poor a remake
as POTA can you T?
I could watch
Jackson ’s KK again…not POTA2001.
I thought KK culd have been better, but it
wasn’t giant ape turd!
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2007 10:00
AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] King Kong
In a message dated 8/4/2007 5:19:03 P.M.
Central Daylight Time, mwhitty@optusnet. com.au
writes:
I guess you would compare it to King Kong.
I’m fairly sure most people who saw this in the original
theatrical release are dust by now.
But it has a great story and great FX for the time.
Now see . . . there's a great example.
After LOTR I thought
Jackson would have been
a better choice for director for a POTA
redo.
But, as we saw, it got the same
Hollywood
treatment. Big Budget FX and 2nd
rate writing.
And he was also a supposed fan of the
material.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45546 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong vs POTA2001 |
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In a message dated 8/4/2007 7:17:02 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
mwhitty@... writes:
But you can't say KK
was as poor a remake as POTA can you T?
When people are being chased by dinosaurs
for so long I check my watch, that's pretty bad.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45547 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong vs POTA2001 |
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Agreed that dinosaur sequence was entirely
absurd – but I could watch that 2 times over before I would watch a 10 minute
sequence form POTA 2001! J
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2007 10:47
AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] King Kong vs
POTA2001
In a message dated 8/4/2007 7:17:02 P.M.
Central Daylight Time, mwhitty@optusnet. com.au
writes:
But you can’t say KK was as poor a remake
as POTA can you T?
When people are being chased by dinosaurs
for so long I check my watch, that's
pretty bad.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45548 |
From: HollowedOut |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Bounded comics... ahhhhhhhhhh. |
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Just got the 5!!! 5!! WHOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, comics from Mr. Whitty and Mr. Foster!!!! SWEET!!!! All of them signed and looks so DAMN spiffy!!!!
I know I'm probably last on this list to get these but DAMN they are NICE!!!!!!! THESE would sell at Comic Con!!!!! -Chris
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45549 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Bounded comics... ahhhhhhhhhh. |
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Hi Chris
Thanks for your enthusiastic plug!
Sadly, you are certainly NOT the last on
the list to get these. We printed very few, and barely cover printing and postage
at the price we ask, but still very few people fork out money. This
contributes to my dismal view of whether people – even hard core fans –
would really pay for quality. The comics are available free on the web, so I
guess that might have something to do with it, but it is very sad that we get
such comics and can’t even shell out a few bucks to keep the best POTA
comic artist working on them.
Never mind – at least a few of you supported
the cause and we thank you.
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of HollowedOut
Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2007 11:33
AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Bounded
comics... ahhhhhhhhhh.
Just got the 5!!! 5!! WHOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, comics from Mr.
Whitty and Mr. Foster!!!! SWEET!!!!
All of them signed and looks so DAMN spiffy!!!!
I know I'm probably last on this list to get these but DAMN they are
NICE!!!!!!!
THESE would sell at Comic Con!!!!!
Looking for a deal?
Find
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45550 |
From: John |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Bounded comics... ahhhhhhhhhh. |
.htmlHey Michael, which 5 have you done? There must be something I don't
have in there somewhere. Please send me info. You know I'm always
game for more useless APES crap. ;)
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "mwhitty" <mwhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Chris
>
>
>
> Thanks for your enthusiastic plug!
>
>
>
> Sadly, you are certainly NOT the last on the list to get these. We
printed
> very few, and barely cover printing and postage at the price we
ask, but
> still very few people fork out money. This contributes to my
dismal view of
> whether people - even hard core fans - would really pay for
quality. The
> comics are available free on the web, so I guess that might have
something
> to do with it, but it is very sad that we get such comics and can't
even
> shell out a few bucks to keep the best POTA comic artist working on
them.
>
>
>
> Never mind - at least a few of you supported the cause and we thank
you.
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of
> HollowedOut
> Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2007 11:33 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Bounded comics... ahhhhhhhhhh.
>
>
>
> Just got the 5!!! 5!! WHOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, comics from Mr.
Whitty
> and Mr. Foster!!!! SWEET!!!!
>
>
>
> All of them signed and looks so DAMN spiffy!!!!
>
>
>
> I know I'm probably last on this list to get these but DAMN they are
> NICE!!!!!!!
>
>
>
> THESE would sell at Comic Con!!!!!
>
>
>
> -Chris
>
>
>
> _____
>
> Looking for a deal? Find
>
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DMTFic
> DJoNDllBF9TAzk3NDA3NTg5BHBvcwMxMwRzZWMDZ3JvdXBzBHNsawNlbWFpbC1uY20-
> great
> prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45551 |
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Birthday Reminder |
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| Reminder from: |
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PotaDG Yahoo! Group |
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| Title: |
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Natalie Trundy's Birthday |
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| Date: |
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Sunday August 5, 2007 |
| Time: |
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All Day
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| Repeats: |
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Happy Birthday Natalie! (Albina: Beneath the Planet of the Apes (1970) Dr. Stephanie 'Stevie' Branton: Escape from the POTA (1971)
Lisa: Conquest of the POTA (1972), Battle for the POTA (1973)) |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45552 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong |
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There will always be POTA fans and maybe
future generations will appreciate it more. I'm sure when apes really take over
it will be the official state film.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 3:18
PM
Subject: [PotaDG] King Kong
I guess you would
compare it to King Kong.
IÂ’m fairly sure most
people who saw this in the original theatrical release are dust by
now.
But it has a great
story and great FX for the time.
Same with
POTA.
So I imagine there
would still be fans Rory, donÂ’t you think?
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
[ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of
Haristas@aol. com Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2007 4:06
AM To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject: [PotaDG] Re: "POTA does not
sell."
In a message dated 8/4/2007
1:12:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, veetus@earthlink. net
writes:
POTA will be a niche relegated
to ebay
Someday all those that saw
the POTA movies in their original theatrical runs will be dead, then will
there be any POTA fans or not?
Try not to think about it too much, you
may not like what you conclude.
-- Rory
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45553 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong |
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Whatever you think of the new "King Kong",
it didn't get the "hollywood treatment". That was all Mr. Jackson's doing; he
wrote his own ticket. If anything he was guilty of loving the original TOO much
and wanting to remake it all. I found the same flaw in the new "Superman". The
directors loved their movies to death and they were too long and some of the
silliness could've been cut (and they didn't do as well as their studios
wanted). But they both also had great moments. The beauty of DVD is you can get
to the good stuff.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 5:00
PM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] King Kong
I guess you would
compare it to King Kong.
I'm fairly sure
most people who saw this in the original theatrical release are dust by
now.
But it has a great
story and great FX for the time.
Now see . . . there's a great example.
After LOTR I thought Jackson would have been
a better choice for director for a POTA redo.
But, as we saw, it got the same Hollywood
treatment. Big Budget FX and 2nd rate writing.
And he was also a supposed fan of the material.
Get a sneak peek of the all-new
AOL.com.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45554 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/4/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong vs POTA2001 |
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Jackson is a better filmmaker for that
stuff than Burton is. Would Kong have been more disciplined if he hadn't
done "Lord of the rings" first?
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Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 5:16
PM
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] King Kong vs
POTA2001
But you canÂ’t say KK
was as poor a remake as POTA can you T?
I could watch
Jackson Â’s KK againÂ…not
POTA2001.
I thought KK culd
have been better, but it wasnÂ’t giant ape turd!
Michael
In a message dated
8/4/2007 5:19:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
mwhitty@optusnet. com.au writes:
I guess you would
compare it to King Kong.
IÂ’m fairly
sure most people who saw this in the original theatrical release are dust by
now.
But it has a
great story and great FX for the time.
Now see . . .
there's a great example.
After LOTR I thought
Jackson would have been
a better choice for
director for a POTA redo.
But, as we saw, it
got the same Hollywood
treatment. Big
Budget FX and 2nd rate writing.
And he was also a
supposed fan of the material.
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Message: 45555 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
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-- It's all well
and good to say that but it's not even an option for most of us 'overseas' based
fans.
Neil
Apes could sell, but in my opinion only if ape fans show up in numbers.
We should show up at these convention and show our love to Apes, even if
10 people show up.
.
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From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
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-- I could handle
that but a few fans may disagree, we can't go having brains in jars can we?
;-)
Neil
I for one wouldn't mind seeing a well made big screen adaptaion of the
Marvel "Terror on the Planet of the Apes" story. New characters, lots
of apes, something for old and young alike!!
.
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Message: 45557 |
From: Neil |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
.html-- You may hate the guy but if it wasn't for him you wouldn't have
even got your beloved POTA movie!
Neil
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
> Why? So, he can make another piece of crap about a concept he doesn't
> understand? Give me a break. Screw Zanuck. He's the one
responsible for blowing
> up the world at the end of BENEATH, then he helped destroy the
concept with
> POTA2001. Damn him all to hell!
>
> He's an old fart now anyway. <.html
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Message: 45558 |
From: Neil |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
.html-- The way it is now I would say no. These days the only interest in
POTA seems to be parodies and piss-takes.
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Haristas@... wrote:
> Someday all those that saw the POTA movies in their original
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Message: 45559 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong vs POTA2001 |
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-- We really must
be old farts. I watched KK with my boys and they loved the whole dinosaur
sequence stuff. It's non-stop action and thrills, just what kids these days
love. The chances of a new popular Apes movie being made that just sticks to the
stuff we liked in the 'old' movies won't cut it these days.
Neil
Agreed that dinosaur
sequence was entirely absurd – but I could watch that 2 times over before I
would watch a 10 minute sequence form POTA 2001! J
.
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Message: 45560 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Bounded comics... ahhhhhhhhhh. |
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-- I agree with
everything you say here.
Neil
Sadly, you are
certainly NOT the last on the list to get these. We printed very few,
and barely cover printing and postage at the price we ask, but still very few
people fork out money. This contributes to my dismal view of whether
people – even hard core fans – would really pay for quality. The comics
are available free on the web, so I guess that might have something to do with
it,
Never mind – at least
a few of you supported the cause and we thank you.
.
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Message: 45561 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong |
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-- I quite liked
the new King Kong myself.
Neil
Now see . . . there's a great example.
After LOTR I thought Jackson would have been
a better choice for director for a POTA redo.
But, as we saw, it got the same Hollywood
treatment. Big Budget FX and 2nd rate writing.
And he was also a supposed fan of the material.
.
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Message: 45562 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Bounded comics... ahhhhhhhhhh. |
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--
Beware The Beast
#1
Beware The Beast
#2
Within The Planet
Of The Apes
POTA TV Series #1:
Going Home
Monkey Planet
(English version of the Hungarian comic)
I think that's the
lot isn't it?
Neil
Hey Michael, which 5 have you done? There must be something I don't
have in there somewhere. Please send me info. You know I'm always game
for more useless APES crap.
;)
.
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Message: 45563 |
From: Neil |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong |
.html-- Well you're a lot more optimistic than me Jeff. I feel that Apes is
dead and I don't see any revival on the horizon for it either.
Neil
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
> There will always be POTA fans and maybe future generations will
appreciate it more. I'm sure when apes really take over it will be the
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Message: 45564 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Rory's "POTA does sell." |
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-- You seriously
think they will do another Apes movie? I don't see it happening
myself.
Neil
Seriously Rory, if
they do a new movie (and they WILL!),
.
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Message: 45565 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong |
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In a message dated 8/4/2007 11:30:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
veetus@... writes:
That was
all Mr. Jackson's doing; he wrote his own ticket.
And see what happened.
Burton didn't get it his way and Jackson did.
Not much difference in the end product as
far as I'm concerned. Perhaps Cameron
would have had a better take on it,
perhaps not.
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Message: 45566 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong |
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In a message dated 8/4/2007 11:30:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
veetus@... writes:
The beauty of DVD is you can get to the good stuff.
If that was the good stuff then I'd hate to see what they cut.
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Message: 45567 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Rory's "POTA does sell." |
.htmlIn a message dated 8/5/2007 12:31:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
ntfoster@... writes:
-- You seriously think they will do another Apes movie? I don't see it
happening myself.
Neil
Not POTA per se, but another talking monkey movie,
yes, if I have to make it myself.
T
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45568 |
From: PofTAfan@aol.com |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Rory's "POTA does sell." |
.htmlThere is an animated movie that have some apes in it coming out in
2008 by Barry Sonnenfeld called "Space Chimps".
Kevin
-----Original Message-----
From: TZer0@...
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 1:49 am
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Rory's "POTA does sell."
In a message dated 8/5/2007 12:31:24 A.M. Central Daylight
Time,
ntfoster@... writes:
-- You seriously think they will do another Apes movie? I don't see it
happening myself.
Neil
Not POTA per se, but another talking monkey movie,
yes, if I have to make it myself.
T
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Message: 45569 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong |
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Unless of course they shun technology and
ban films/movie cameras……
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2007 2:30
PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] King Kong
There will always be POTA fans and maybe future
generations will appreciate it more. I'm sure when apes really take over it
will be the official state film.
----- Original Message -----
Sent:
Saturday, August
04, 2007 3:18 PM
Subject:
[PotaDG] King Kong
I guess you would compare it to King Kong.
I’m fairly sure most people who saw this in the
original theatrical release are dust by now.
But it has a great story and great FX for the time.
Same with POTA.
So I imagine there would still be fans Rory, don’t you
think?
Michael
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45570 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong vs POTA2001 |
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In a nutshell Jeff.
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2007 2:42
PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] King Kong vs
POTA2001
Jackson is a better
filmmaker for that stuff than Burton
is. Would Kong have been more disciplined if he hadn't done "Lord of the
rings" first?
----- Original Message -----
Sent:
Saturday, August
04, 2007 5:16 PM
Subject:
RE: [PotaDG] King
Kong vs POTA2001
But you can’t say KK was as poor a remake as POTA can you T?
I could watch
Jackson ’s KK
again…not POTA2001.
I thought KK culd have been better, but it wasn’t
giant ape turd!
Michael

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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45571 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Would ANYONE do a good job NOW? |
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It would be better than the shit
Burton did.
But so would a porno flick involving
midgets and Llamas….
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2007 3:02
PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Would
ANYONE do a good job NOW?
-- I could handle that but a few fans may disagree, we
can't go having brains in jars can we? ;-)
Neil
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
[ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ]
On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007
12:51 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Would ANYONE
do a good job NOW?
I for one
wouldn't mind seeing a well made big screen adaptaion of the
Marvel "Terror on the Planet of the Apes" story.
New characters, lots of apes, something for old and young alike!!

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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45572 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong vs POTA2001 |
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Prolly not – but don’t you agree
that bit was just plain silly?
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2007 3:17
PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] King Kong vs
POTA2001
-- We really must be old farts. I watched KK with my boys
and they loved the whole dinosaur sequence stuff. It's non-stop action and
thrills, just what kids these days love. The chances of a new popular Apes
movie being made that just sticks to the stuff we liked in the 'old' movies
won't cut it these days.
Neil
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
[ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ]
On Behalf Of mwhitty
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007
10:53 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] King Kong vs
POTA2001
Agreed that dinosaur sequence was entirely absurd – but I
could watch that 2 times over before I would watch a 10 minute sequence form
POTA 2001! J

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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45573 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Bounded comics... ahhhhhhhhhh. |
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So far…..
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2007 3:24
PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Bounded
comics... ahhhhhhhhhh.
Within The Planet Of The Apes
POTA TV Series #1: Going Home
Monkey Planet (English version of the Hungarian comic)
I think that's the lot isn't it?
Neil
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
[ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ]
On Behalf Of John
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007
12:45 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Bounded
comics... ahhhhhhhhhh.
Hey Michael, which 5 have you done? There must be something I don't
have in there somewhere. Please send me info. You know I'm always
game for more useless APES crap. ;)
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45574 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Rory's "POTA does sell." |
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Yeah I do. Jeff’s right –
there’s been a whole lot more totally crap movies that have been further
pumped – and Batman even got it RIGHT!
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2007 3:31
PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Rory's
"POTA does sell."
-- You seriously think they will do another Apes movie? I
don't see it happening myself.
Neil
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
[ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ]
On Behalf Of mwhitty
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 6:58
AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] Rory's
"POTA does sell."
Seriously Rory, if they do a new movie (and they WILL!),
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Message: 45575 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong |
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Has Cameron had a folp?
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2007 3:36
PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] King Kong
In a message dated 8/4/2007 11:30:17 P.M.
Central Daylight Time, veetus@earthlink. net writes:
That was all Mr. Jackson's doing; he
wrote his own ticket.
Burton
didn't get it his way and Jackson
did.
Not much difference in the end product as
far as I'm concerned. Perhaps
Cameron
would have had a better take on it,
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45576 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong vs POTA2001 |
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-- Not really, I
quite enjoyed it at the time.
Neil
Prolly not – but
don’t you agree that bit was just plain silly?
.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45577 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong |
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-- Dunno,
is a folp some new hairstyle or one of those weird continental beers
or something? ;-)
Neil
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45578 |
From: gp3085 |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Bound comics... ahhhhhhhhhh. |
.htmlThere's also the 7 Argentinian comics, translated from Spanish to
English.
Greg
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> --
> Beware The Beast #1
>
> Beware The Beast #2
>
> Within The Planet Of The Apes
>
> POTA TV Series #1: Going Home
>
> Monkey Planet (English version of the Hungarian comic)
>
> I think that's the lot isn't it?
>
> Neil <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45579 |
From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Rory's "POTA does sell." |
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In a message dated 8/5/2007 1:31:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:
-- You seriously think they will do another Apes movie? I don't see it happening myself.
Neil
Yeah, I just don't see it really happening. Nothing "out there" suggests that anyone -- other than POTA fanatics like Veetus -- give a monkey's asshole about it.
-- Rory
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From: Haristas@aol.com |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Rory's "POTA does sell." |
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In a message dated 8/4/2007 4:58:50 PM Eastern Standard Time, mwhitty@... writes:
Seriously Rory, if they do a new movie (and they WILL!), what do you think the story should be? Not
just from and ape fan POV, but something people would come and pay to see…?
I don't think they will, so I have nothing to say. Sorry.
-- Rory
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Message: 45581 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Back from Comic Con. |
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-- Who is
she?
Neil
Gee. I must have miss him because I was kinda
busy with someone I recognized at the con.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45582 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Rory's "POTA does sell." |
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-- The only
problem I see with making a 'talking monkey movie' that isn't POTA is
that people will automatically think it is a rip-off of
POTA.
Neil
Not POTA per se, but another talking monkey movie, yes, if I have to
make it myself.
.
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Message: 45583 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Would ANYONE do a good job NOW? |
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-- I actually do
like a few things from that film. Not much but it isn't all so bad, just most of
it.
Neil
It would be better
than the shit Burton did.
.
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From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Would ANYONE do a good job NOW? |
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-- I was just
going through some things I'd filed away and came across a whole bunch of
newspaper clippings and stuff from when the 2001 film was about to come out.
Some of the pictures and the poster made it look like we were in for a real
treat, sigh...
Neil
It would be better
than the shit Burton did.
.
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From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Bound comics... ahhhhhhhhhh. |
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-- How well
have these sold Greg?
Neil
There's also the 7 Argentinian comics, translated from Spanish to
English.
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From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Bound comics... ahhhhhhhhhh. |
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-- How well
have these sold Greg?
Neil
There's also the 7 Argentinian comics, translated from Spanish to
English.
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Message: 45587 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong vs POTA2001 |
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-- No not really,
I thought it was good fun.
Neil
Prolly not – but
don’t you agree that bit was just plain silly?
.
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From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Would ANYONE do a good job NOW? |
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-- I dunno, that
one is pretty bad except for the scene with the Llama and the pet mouse...
It would be better
than the shit Burton did.
But so would a porno
flick involving midgets and Llamas….
.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45589 |
From: PofTAfan@aol.com |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Back from Comic Con. |
.htmlif you remember Stan Lee's "Who wants to be a Superhero" she was the
character who played "Creature".
Kevin
-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Foster < ntfoster@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 4:33 pm
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Back from Comic Con.
-- Who is
she?
Neil
-----Original Message-----
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
PofTAfan@...
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 2:18
PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Back
from Comic Con.
Gee. I must have miss him because I was kinda
busy with someone I
recognized at the con.
.
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From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Rory's "POTA does sell." |
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What a cop out!
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Haristas@...
Sent: Monday, 6 August 2007 4:40
AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Rory's
"POTA does sell."
In
a message dated 8/4/2007 4:58:50 PM Eastern Standard Time,
mwhitty@optusnet. com.au writes:
Seriously Rory, if they
do a new movie (and they WILL!), what do you think the story should be? Not
just from and ape fan POV, but something people would come and pay to see…?
I don't think they will, so I have nothing to say. Sorry.
-- Rory
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From: gp3085 |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Bound comics... ahhhhhhhhhh. |
.htmlNo idea. You'd have to ask Mike how many he has left from what I
printed for him.
Greg
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- How well have these sold Greg?
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of gp3085
> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 12:42 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Bound comics... ahhhhhhhhhh.
>
>
>
> There's also the 7 Argentinian comics, translated from Spanish to
> English.
>
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Message: 45592 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Back from Comic Con. |
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-- Sorry never
watched it.
Neil
if you remember Stan Lee's "Who wants to be a Superhero" she was the
character who played
"Creature".
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Message: 45593 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong vs POTA2001 |
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Lucky you can draw mate!
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Monday, 6 August 2007 6:39
AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] King Kong vs
POTA2001
-- No not really, I thought it was good fun.
Neil
-----Original
Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
[ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ]
On Behalf Of mwhitty
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 5:47
PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] King Kong vs
POTA2001
Prolly not – but
don’t you agree that bit was just plain silly?
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From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Amazing Planet of the Apes 1974 Cornelius scene montage |
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This is a bit
unusual:
Pity they
used all those Planet movie pictures to make up a picture that looks more
like it's Galen than Cornelius!
Neil
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Message: 45595 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Bound comics... ahhhhhhhhhh. |
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I’m fairly sure all I ever got was a
few to look at – I don’t think we ever did a run of the (thank
GOD!).
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of gp3085
Sent: Monday, 6 August 2007 7:16
AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Bound
comics... ahhhhhhhhhh.
No idea. You'd have to ask Mike how many he has left
from what I
printed for him.
Greg
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com,
"Neil Foster" <ntfoster@.. .> wrote:
>
> -- How well have these sold Greg?
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups. com]
On
Behalf
> Of gp3085
> Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 12:42 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Bound comics... ahhhhhhhhhh.
>
>
>
> There's also the 7 Argentinian comics, translated from Spanish to
> English.
>
> .
>
> <http://geo.yahoo. com/serv?
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Message: 45596 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Amazing Planet of the Apes 1974 Cornelius scene montage |
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It’s pretty cool though!
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Monday, 6 August 2007 7:46
AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Amazing Planet
of the Apes 1974 Cornelius scene montage
Pity they used all those Planet movie pictures to
make up a picture that looks more like it's Galen than Cornelius!
Neil
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Message: 45597 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: That Chewy 'Apes' Pez dispenser! |
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Hey Tim (I think
it was you who mentioned it), would this be like the one you said you
purchased?
Neil
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Message: 45598 |
From: gp3085 |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Bound comics... ahhhhhhhhhh. |
.htmlI could have sworn I'd printed you a handful of sets, but that was a
while ago, so maybe I'm confusing it with the runs I did of the
others.
Greg
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "mwhitty" <mwhitty@...> wrote:
>
> I'm fairly sure all I ever got was a few to look at - I don't
think we ever
> did a run of the (thank GOD!).
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of
> gp3085
> Sent: Monday, 6 August 2007 7:16 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Bound comics... ahhhhhhhhhh.
>
>
>
> No idea. You'd have to ask Mike how many he has left from what I
> printed for him.
>
> Greg
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>
com, "Neil
> Foster" <ntfoster@> wrote:
> >
> > -- How well have these sold Greg?
> >
> > Neil
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com]
On
> Behalf
> > Of gp3085
> > Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 12:42 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Bound comics... ahhhhhhhhhh.
> >
> >
> >
> > There's also the 7 Argentinian comics, translated from Spanish
to
> > English.
> >
> > .
> >
> > <http://geo.yahoo <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?> com/serv?
> s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
> > sgId=45578/stime=1186324948/nc1=3848607/nc2=3858795/nc3=3848445>
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Message: 45599 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
.htmlI agree Jeff...Not every sci-fi flick has a fan base
and some are certainly more popluar than others...I
still am amazed that I have discovered all of you all
over the world who are POTA freaks like me....I really
thought I might be the only one before these groups!
...POTA will never be as big as Trek or Wars or
probably even Stargate ...and that's cool
really...with me anyway.....any new product that comes
out is a small miracle and is welcome......It just
effects ebay prices.....the smaller the fan base, the
higher the prices for the rare stuff.....
Jeff, are you going to the Double Feature Friday
night? I'm in LA and I will be there!
Tim
--- "Jeff K." < veetus@...> wrote:
> Well, what was popular at the Con? Star Wars? Star
> Trek? Superheroes? Why do those sell? Maybe because
> those have had recent revivals. Even Star Wars, the
> prequels are considered crap but Lucas keeps the
> originals promoted. Star Trek was considered to have
> run it's course but Paramount is putting out an
> exciting new movie by a big player, J.J. Abrams (L.
> Nimoy said he's back because of Abrams and the
> script). And of course we know the studios are
> squeezing every last dime out of the superheroes,
> including Fox. When the "Hulk" didn't work they
> tried it again.
> Meanwhile, most agree POTA2001 didn't work. That
> means we have to go back to POTA Old School, which
> is getting dusty to pop culture 40 years later.
> Unless something "new" happens that works, meaning a
> movie or TV show, not a comic, POTA will be a niche
> relegated to ebay. That's all there is to it. Why do
> you think Lucas is doing Star Wars TV shows even
> though the story is supposedly over? Out of sight,
> out of mind. Jeff
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Neil Foster
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 12:13 AM
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] "POTA does not sell."
>
>
>
> -- Because there are very few hardcore POTA fans
> around the world and not all of them will buy
> everything. POTA's not popular, that's why POTA
> doesn't sell.
>
> Neil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mwhitty
> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 11:33 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] "POTA does not sell."
>
>
>
> I think it was Kevin who mentioned Ploog (or
> someone at ComiCon) said POTA does not sell.
>
>
> Do we think this is a correct analysis?
>
>
> Why do we think this is so?
>
> .
>
>
>
>
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Message: 45600 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/5/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Bound comics... ahhhhhhhhhh. |
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I think we got like 3 orders and you just
printed the 3 sets and sent these out to people direct.
I certainly don’t have more than 2
of some of the issues.
From (shabby!) memory, I think you sent a
copy to everyone involved (and 2 to me – 1 of which I sent on to Neil)
and we decided after having mllions of posters and other comics left over we’d
get an order first then print them as required…?!?!
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of gp3085
Sent: Monday, 6 August 2007 11:02
AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Bound
comics... ahhhhhhhhhh.
I could have sworn I'd printed you a handful of sets,
but that was a
while ago, so maybe I'm confusing it with the runs I did of the
others.
Greg
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com,
"mwhitty" <mwhitty@... > wrote:
>
> I'm fairly sure all I ever got was a few to look at - I don't
think we ever
> did a run of the (thank GOD!).
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups. com]
On
Behalf Of
> gp3085
> Sent: Monday, 6 August 2007 7:16 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Bound comics... ahhhhhhhhhh.
>
>
>
> No idea. You'd have to ask Mike how many he has left from what I
> printed for him.
>
> Greg
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG% 40yahoogroups. com>
com, "Neil
> Foster" <ntfoster@> wrote:
> >
> > -- How well have these sold Greg?
> >
> > Neil
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG% 40yahoogroups. com>
com
> [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG% 40yahoogroups. com>
com]
On
> Behalf
> > Of gp3085
> > Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 12:42 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG% 40yahoogroups. com>
com
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Bound comics... ahhhhhhhhhh.
> >
> >
> >
> > There's also the 7 Argentinian comics, translated from Spanish
to
> > English.
> >
> > .
> >
> > <http://geo.yahoo. < href="http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?">http://geo.yahoo. com/serv?>
com/serv?
> s=97359714/grpId= 8605785/grpspId= 1705021437/ m
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Message: 45601 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not smell." |
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Oh get a room you two!
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Monday, 6 August 2007 2:11
PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] "POTA
does not sell."
Jeff, are you going to the Double Feature Friday
night? I'm in LA and I will be there!
Tim
--- "Jeff K." <veetus@earthlink. net>
wrote:
> Well, what was popular at the Con? Star Wars? Star
> Trek? Superheroes? Why do those sell? Maybe because
> those have had recent revivals. Even Star Wars, the
> prequels are considered crap but Lucas keeps the
> originals promoted. Star Trek was considered to have
> run it's course but Paramount
is putting out an
> exciting new movie by a big player, J.J. Abrams (L.
> Nimoy said he's back because of Abrams and the
> script). And of course we know the studios are
> squeezing every last dime out of the superheroes,
> including Fox. When the "Hulk" didn't work they
> tried it again.
> Meanwhile, most agree POTA2001 didn't work. That
> means we have to go back to POTA Old School, which
> is getting dusty to pop culture 40 years later.
> Unless something "new" happens that works, meaning a
> movie or TV show, not a comic, POTA will be a niche
> relegated to ebay. That's all there is to it. Why do
> you think Lucas is doing Star Wars TV shows even
> though the story is supposedly over? Out of sight,
> out of mind. Jeff
>
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Message: 45602 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Rory's "POTA does sell." |
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Someone could do a "Kamandi" movie. That's
an established franchise. Talking monkeys and everything else. Plus it's a COMIC
BOOK! Now the studios are drooling.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 1:30
PM
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Rory's "POTA does
sell."
-- The only
problem I see with making a 'talking monkey movie' that isn't POTA is
that people will automatically think it is a rip-off of
POTA.
Neil
Not POTA per se, but another talking monkey movie, yes, if I have to
make it myself.
.
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Message: 45603 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Amazing Planet of the Apes 1974 Cornelius scene montage |
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I've got one of these of Oliver Stone. A
poster for a Museum of Modern Art retrospective.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 2:46
PM
Subject: [PotaDG] Amazing Planet of the
Apes 1974 Cornelius scene montage
This is a bit
unusual:
Pity they
used all those Planet movie pictures to make up a picture that looks more
like it's Galen than Cornelius!
Neil
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Message: 45604 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: That Chewy 'Apes' Pez dispenser! |
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That's a compliment. They're using "Apes"
instead of "Star Wars" to sell it.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 3:20
PM
Subject: [PotaDG] That Chewy 'Apes' Pez
dispenser!
Hey Tim (I think
it was you who mentioned it), would this be like the one you said you
purchased?
Neil
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Message: 45605 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
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I don't know if I'm going Friday. That's
still up in the air.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 9:10
PM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] "POTA does not
sell."
I agree Jeff...Not every sci-fi flick has a fan base and some are
certainly more popluar than others...I still am amazed that I have
discovered all of you all over the world who are POTA freaks like me....I
really thought I might be the only one before these groups!
...POTA
will never be as big as Trek or Wars or probably even Stargate ...and
that's cool really...with me anyway.....any new product that comes out
is a small miracle and is welcome..... .It just effects ebay
prices.....the smaller the fan base, the higher the prices for the rare
stuff.....
Jeff, are you going to the Double Feature Friday night?
I'm in LA and I will be there!
Tim
--- "Jeff K." <veetus@earthlink. net>
wrote:
> Well, what was popular at the Con? Star Wars? Star >
Trek? Superheroes? Why do those sell? Maybe because > those have had
recent revivals. Even Star Wars, the > prequels are considered crap but
Lucas keeps the > originals promoted. Star Trek was considered to
have > run it's course but Paramount is putting out an > exciting
new movie by a big player, J.J. Abrams (L. > Nimoy said he's back
because of Abrams and the > script). And of course we know the studios
are > squeezing every last dime out of the superheroes, >
including Fox. When the "Hulk" didn't work they > tried it
again. > Meanwhile, most agree POTA2001 didn't work. That > means
we have to go back to POTA Old School, which > is getting dusty to pop
culture 40 years later. > Unless something "new" happens that works,
meaning a > movie or TV show, not a comic, POTA will be a niche >
relegated to ebay. That's all there is to it. Why do > you think Lucas
is doing Star Wars TV shows even > though the story is supposedly over?
Out of sight, > out of mind. Jeff > > > -----
Original Message ----- > From: Neil Foster > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 12:13 AM > Subject: RE:
[PotaDG] "POTA does not sell." > > > > -- Because
there are very few hardcore POTA fans > around the world and not all of
them will buy > everything. POTA's not popular, that's why POTA >
doesn't sell. > > Neil > > -----Original
Message----- > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com >
[PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On
Behalf Of mwhitty > Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 11:33 AM > To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com >
Subject: [PotaDG] "POTA does not sell." > > > > I
think it was Kevin who mentioned Ploog (or > someone at ComiCon) said
POTA does not sell. > > > Do we think this is a correct
analysis? > > > Why do we think this is so? >
> . > > > >
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Message: 45606 |
From: patrickmichaeltilton |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: OT: Simpsons barely beat Apes |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, "mwhitty" <mwhitty@...> wrote:
>
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jeff K. Sent: Monday, 30 July 2007 6:15 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: [PotaDG]
OT: Simpsons barely beat Apes
D'ough! The estimated take for "The Simpsons Movie" domestically is
$71.85 million, about $3 million more than POTA2001 made on this
weekend exactly 6 years ago. We'll see if it has the 'legs" POTA
didn't have. The Simpsons, like "Star Wars", is a Fox franchise that
Fox isn't allowed to tamper with. Fox isn't even allowed to "give
notes" to the TV show.
Jeff
=================================================================
*** I went to see "The Simpsons Movie" and liked it, but didn't love
it. It was generally funny, but I've seen episodes of the show that
had more laffs in it than were in this movie (remember the episode
about the Monorail -- written by Conan O'Brien before he got the gig
to host LATE NITE...?).
Still, it was nice to see it on the big screen. But they missed a few
glorious opportunities. The plot of the film involves the head of the
EPA getting President Schwarzenegger (!) to approve a plan to seal
the polluted town of Springfield under a gigantic geodesic dome, to
prevent it from polluting the rest of the country. I can't BELIEVE
that they set up this scenario and FAILED to make even a passing
reference to "LOGAN'S RUN"! C'mon... a dome-enclosed city? How can
they NOT have made even a single joke about this? When the angry mob
of Springfieldians is chasing after Homer and his family, they
could've had at least one of the mob yelling after them, "Run,
runner!" or something like that. Just one lil' in-joke, that's all I
was askin' for... and it's as if it didn't even occur to them to make
it.
Regardless, it was a fairly entertaining flick, and I'd give it about
***/*****. The "SOUTH PARK" movie was definitely funnier, though.
And, maybe because SOUTH PARK tends to have a raunchier brand of
comedy, I tend to laugh more at episodes of SOUTH PARK than of the
SIMPSONS.
Patrick <.html
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Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Calendar musings |
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Not that anybody's interested, but in my next-to-last post -- about my hypothetical Ape lunisolar calendar -- I made a mistake. I transposed the number "6939
" to the (incorrect) "3969" (in the second paragraph below):
The calendar I've devised, then, takes the 19-year Cycle of 6939.6882821 days and rounds it to 6939 days 16 hours exactly = 6939.666666... so that 3 Cycles = 57 years = 20,819 days.
The 3-Cycle system has 6940 + 3969
+ 6940 days, in a repeating cycle. Like the Jewish Calendar, this Ape Calendar adds a 13th month in Years 3, 6, 8, 11, 14, 17, and 19 [of the 19-year Cycle]. But, to synchronize the lunar phases, the lengths of
the months in each of those 19 years will require a certain unavoidable amount of complication.
This last paragraph should read: "The 3-Cycle system has 6940 + 6939
+ 6940 days, in a repeating cycle..." so that the grand total of those 3 Cycles (or, 3 x 19 = 57 years) equals 20,819 days.
We now return to our regularly scheduled programming...
Patrick
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Message: 45608 |
From: Wendy Kostora |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Fan presence at conventions. |
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However, if it were world con, you'd show up. Right??? People around the planet come to world con. I'd come even if it were at your part of the world. Planet of the Apes converse!!!
Wendy
From: "mwhitty" <mwhitty@...> Reply-To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> Subject: [PotaDG] Fan presence at conventions. Date:
Sun, 5 Aug 2007 08:15:01 +1000
You know if there wasn�t this whopping great ocean between us I would certainly travel around the COUNTRY, but it�s just TOOO far!
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@aol. com
Sent: Sunday, 5 August 2007 12:41 AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject:
Re: [PotaDG] "POTA does not sell."
When I was at the Con in San Diego, I was wearing my Planet of the Apes t-shirt with Zira on the front and I had several people
asked me about the shirt I was wearing. The problem with apes is that the business community doesn't see any money in it. I also see that these
so-called shirts like to see these fan clubs at these convention, I saw the usual fan clubs at the convention(i. e Star Wars, Star Trek) and other major fan clubs, I even saw smaller fan clubs at the con,
including a Battle of the Planet fan club who I talked to one of their members and he told me that they have thousands of members worldwide, but only 35 of 40 members show up.
Apes could sell, but in my opinion only if ape fans show up in numbers. We should show up at these convention and show our love to Apes, even if 10 people show up.
Kevin
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From: Wendy Kostora |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong vs POTA2001 |
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Same here. It was fun at the until my neighbor complained that it was a bit long and ridiculous. One thing about Kong was that its post moderism far more understood and one than that of POTA2001. It
wasn't force fed as was Burtons. Jackson, to me, is far superior in making apes movies than Burton. Burton is good, but apes are not his forte'.
Wendy
From: "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> Reply-To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] King Kong vs POTA2001 Date:
Sun, 5 Aug 2007 18:01:35 +1000
-- Not really, I quite enjoyed it at the time.
Neil
Prolly not � but don�t you agree that bit was just plain silly?
.
Tease your brain--play Clink! Win cool prizes!
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Message: 45610 |
From: Wendy Kostora |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
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Not true. I've read a lot of sci fi (simian fic) that stands on its own merits based on a steady diet imagination. Sure POTA is king when it comes to talking apes. However, apes are ape as are
aliens or elves or fairys etc., etc., etc..
From: "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> Reply-To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com To: <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Rory's "POTA does sell."
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 06:30:00 +1000
-- The only problem I see with making a 'talking monkey movie' that isn't
POTA is that people will automatically think it is a rip-off of POTA.
Neil
Not POTA per se, but another talking monkey movie, yes, if I have to make it myself.
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From: Wendy Kostora |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Rory's "POTA does sell." |
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Now that sounds about as fun a barrel of moneky's Lord T. I belieive you can. Let me know when you do.

Wendy
From: TZer0@... Reply-To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Rory's "POTA does sell." Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 01:49:49 EDT
In a message dated 8/5/2007 12:31:24 A.M. Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@bigpond. com writes:
-- You seriously think they will do another Apes movie? I don't see it happening myself.
Neil
Not POTA per se, but another talking monkey movie, yes, if I have to make it myself.
T
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Message: 45612 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
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.htmlI got them all except Within...so I guess I need one
of those!
Tim
--- Neil Foster < ntfoster@...> wrote:
> --
> Beware The Beast #1
>
> Beware The Beast #2
>
> Within The Planet Of The Apes
>
> POTA TV Series #1: Going Home
>
> Monkey Planet (English version of the Hungarian
> comic)
>
> I think that's the lot isn't it?
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of John
> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 12:45 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Bounded comics... ahhhhhhhhhh.
>
>
>
> Hey Michael, which 5 have you done? There must be
> something I don't
> have in there somewhere. Please send me info. You
> know I'm always
> game for more useless APES crap. ;)
>
>
> .
>
>
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Message: 45613 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Would ANYONE do a good job NOW? |
.htmlALL the pre-release stuff for the film was fantastic!
Too bad it didn't deliver!
Tim
--- Neil Foster < ntfoster@...> wrote:
> -- I was just going through some things I'd filed
> away and came across a
> whole bunch of newspaper clippings and stuff from
> when the 2001 film was
> about to come out. Some of the pictures and the
> poster made it look like
> we were in for a real treat, sigh...
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of mwhitty
> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 5:41 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Would ANYONE do a good job
> NOW?
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> It would be better than the shit Burton did.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 45614 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
.htmlLEt me know.....
I am heading out today for Malibu State park and
possibly Point Dume.....
any hints at finding filmed sites at Century City or
is it all ovbvious when I get there.....
Tim
--- "Jeff K." < veetus@...> wrote:
>
> I don't know if I'm going Friday. That's still up
> in the air.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tim "apefan"
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2007 9:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] "POTA does not sell."
>
>
> I agree Jeff...Not every sci-fi flick has a fan
> base
> and some are certainly more popluar than
> others...I
> still am amazed that I have discovered all of you
> all
> over the world who are POTA freaks like me....I
> really
> thought I might be the only one before these
> groups!
>
> ...POTA will never be as big as Trek or Wars or
> probably even Stargate ...and that's cool
> really...with me anyway.....any new product that
> comes
> out is a small miracle and is welcome......It just
> effects ebay prices.....the smaller the fan base,
> the
> higher the prices for the rare stuff.....
>
> Jeff, are you going to the Double Feature Friday
> night? I'm in LA and I will be there!
>
> Tim
>
> --- "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> > Well, what was popular at the Con? Star Wars?
> Star
> > Trek? Superheroes? Why do those sell? Maybe
> because
> > those have had recent revivals. Even Star Wars,
> the
> > prequels are considered crap but Lucas keeps the
> > originals promoted. Star Trek was considered to
> have
> > run it's course but Paramount is putting out an
> > exciting new movie by a big player, J.J. Abrams
> (L.
> > Nimoy said he's back because of Abrams and the
> > script). And of course we know the studios are
> > squeezing every last dime out of the
> superheroes,
> > including Fox. When the "Hulk" didn't work they
> > tried it again.
> > Meanwhile, most agree POTA2001 didn't work. That
> > means we have to go back to POTA Old School,
> which
> > is getting dusty to pop culture 40 years later.
> > Unless something "new" happens that works,
> meaning a
> > movie or TV show, not a comic, POTA will be a
> niche
> > relegated to ebay. That's all there is to it.
> Why do
> > you think Lucas is doing Star Wars TV shows even
> > though the story is supposedly over? Out of
> sight,
> > out of mind. Jeff
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Neil Foster
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 12:13 AM
> > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] "POTA does not sell."
> >
> >
> >
> > -- Because there are very few hardcore POTA fans
> > around the world and not all of them will buy
> > everything. POTA's not popular, that's why POTA
> > doesn't sell.
> >
> > Neil
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> mwhitty
> > Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 11:33 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [PotaDG] "POTA does not sell."
> >
> >
> >
> > I think it was Kevin who mentioned Ploog (or
> > someone at ComiCon) said POTA does not sell.
> >
> >
> > Do we think this is a correct analysis?
> >
> >
> > Why do we think this is so?
> >
> > .
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Message: 45615 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: That Chewy 'Apes' Pez dispenser! |
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Looks like it....Mine was in a custom package
though.....let's see if I have a pic of it
here.....rustle...rustle.....
ah, here it is....actually that looks better than
mine! looks like they painted it...!
TIm
--- Neil Foster < ntfoster@...> wrote:
> Hey Tim (I think it was you who mentioned it), would
> this be like the
> one you said you purchased?
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Message: 45616 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: "POTA does not sell." |
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Tell us more big boy – who’s
your date?
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Monday, 6 August 2007 10:33
PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] "POTA
does not sell."
I don't know if I'm going Friday. That's still up in
the air.
----- Original Message -----
Sent:
Sunday, August 05,
2007 9:10 PM
Subject:
Re: [PotaDG]
"POTA does not sell."
I agree Jeff...Not every sci-fi flick has a fan base
and some are certainly more popluar than others...I
still am amazed that I have discovered all of you all
over the world who are POTA freaks like me....I really
thought I might be the only one before these groups!
...POTA will never be as big as Trek or Wars or
probably even Stargate ...and that's cool
really...with me anyway.....any new product that comes
out is a small miracle and is welcome..... .It just
effects ebay prices.....the smaller the fan base, the
higher the prices for the rare stuff.....
Jeff, are you going to the Double Feature Friday
night? I'm in LA and I will be there!
Tim
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Message: 45617 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Calendar musings |
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-- Thanks for the
correction Patrick.
Neil
Not that anybody's interested, but in my next-to-last post -- about my
hypothetical Ape lunisolar calendar -- I made a mistake. I transposed the
number "6939" to the (incorrect) "3969" (in the second paragraph below):
The calendar I've devised, then, takes the 19-year
Cycle of 6939.6882821 days and rounds it to 6939 days 16 hours exactly =
6939.666666. .. so that 3 Cycles = 57 years = 20,819 days.
The 3-Cycle system has 6940 + 3969 + 6940 days, in a repeating cycle. Like the
Jewish Calendar, this Ape Calendar adds a 13th month in Years 3, 6, 8, 11, 14,
17, and 19 [of the 19-year Cycle]. But, to synchronize the lunar phases, the
lengths of the months in each of those 19 years will require a certain
unavoidable amount of complication.
This last paragraph should read: "The 3-Cycle system has 6940 + 6939 + 6940 days, in a repeating cycle..." so that
the grand total of those 3 Cycles (or, 3 x 19 = 57 years) equals 20,819
days.
We now return to our regularly scheduled programming. ..
Patrick
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Message: 45618 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Rory's "POTA does sell." |
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-- But talking
apes? What does the average non POTA fan think of when confronted with talking
apes? I would guess that they think of Planet.
What does that
Japanese Time of the Apes thing always get compared to?
Neil
Not true. I've read a lot of sci fi (simian fic) that stands on its
own merits based on a steady diet imagination. Sure POTA is
king when it comes to talking apes. However, apes are ape as are aliens or
elves or fairys etc., etc., etc..
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Message: 45619 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: Calendar musings |
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Thanks Patrick.
I wonder what Freud would have to say
about al this? J
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of patrickmichaeltilton
Sent: Tuesday, 7 August 2007 1:24
AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Calendar
musings
Not that
anybody's interested, but in my next-to-last post -- about my hypothetical Ape
lunisolar calendar -- I made a mistake. I transposed the number "6939"
to the (incorrect) "3969" (in the second paragraph below):
The calendar I've devised, then, takes the 19-year Cycle
of 6939.6882821 days and rounds it to 6939 days 16 hours exactly = 6939.666666. ..
so that 3 Cycles = 57 years = 20,819 days.
The 3-Cycle system has 6940 + 3969
+ 6940 days, in a repeating cycle. Like the Jewish Calendar, this Ape Calendar
adds a 13th month in Years 3, 6, 8, 11, 14, 17, and 19 [of the 19-year Cycle].
But, to synchronize the lunar phases, the lengths of the months in each of
those 19 years will require a certain unavoidable amount of complication.
This last
paragraph should read: "The 3-Cycle system has 6940 + 6939 +
6940 days, in a repeating cycle..." so that the grand total of those 3
Cycles (or, 3 x 19 = 57 years) equals 20,819 days.
We now
return to our regularly scheduled programming. ..
Patrick
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Message: 45620 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: King Kong vs POTA2001 |
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-- I agree. He has
made plenty of films that I did enjoy.
Neil
Burton is good, but apes are not his forte'.
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Message: 45621 |
From: mwhitty |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
| Subject: Re: OT: Simpsons barely beat Apes |
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My kids liked the “penis”
scene!
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of patrickmichaeltilton
Sent: Tuesday, 7 August 2007 1:13
AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: OT: Simpsons
barely beat Apes
Regardless, it was a fairly entertaining flick, and I'd give it about
***/*****. The " SOUTH
PARK " movie was
definitely funnier, though.
And, maybe because SOUTH
PARK tends to have a raunchier brand of
comedy, I tend to laugh more at episodes of
SOUTH PARK
than of the
SIMPSONS.
Patrick
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Message: 45622 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 8/6/2007 |
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-- Well due to
finances the only way I would be able to attend one of these things is if it was
held in Australia. If it was I'm sure I'd find a way to get to
it!
Neil
However, if it were world con, you'd show up. Right??? People around the
planet come to world con. I'd come even if it were at your part of the
world. Planet of the Apes
converse!!!
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