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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael & Sally Whitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 2:49 PM

Subject: [PotaDG] Dead or Alive (?)

That’s interesting Jeff.  I thought they said “next” mainly because they had better things to do with their money and “talking monkeys” are still a risk – regardless of the fact that they once made money.

I mean – ask anyone who has financed anything POTA….

When I spoke to Medicom they clearly lost money (and really – HOW?!?!).  I thought marketing to the Japanese would be a good trick.  The fact that Medicom stopped making apes proves otherwise.

And this is ALL really weird because apes DID make money!  Look at all the toys and junk they brought out!  It was the precursor to all major sci-fi franchises!

But the recent trading card series flopped (well, maybe if he’d have listened to what the group volunteered….).  Palisades action figures bit the dust (as did the company I think), the REVOLUTION comics didn’t do too well.  It seems to be a poor decision to do anything apes!

The best stuff being done now is being produced in the houses of fans, and even these (Greg’s Trading Cards, Chris Hight’s action figures, Neil’s comics – to name a few) are not being appropriately celebrated.

I think we can all agree that POTA is dead.  Would everyone agree?

Michael

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Sunday, 20 January 2008 3:58 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Battle for the new Planet of the Apes

  Adam Rifkin was the one who was going to ignore the sequels to POTA and pick up after the first film. He even had Taylor and Cornelius in early drafts (this was around 1988). Peter Jackson also wanted to continue from the earlier films, and had Roddy in his corner. Fox said, "Next!"

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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael & Sally Whitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 2:56 PM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Battle for the new Planet of the Apes

I’d love to know more – but I wonder if he really remembers (or cares!).

This was the one to star Arnie right?

Man – I tell yas – it would at LEAST have been a HIT!

Michael

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Sunday, 20 January 2008 3:58 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Battle for the new Planet of the Apes

  James Cameron told me his idea was to concentrate on the first two movies "with some new ideas".

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I remember the public in the movie veiwing the albino gorilla as a
monster and it attacking some people durning the film. At the end of
the film the trappers/government (bad guys) have the ape trapped in
the bell tower of a church or something. They open fire on the ape
despite the pleas of the scientist who were trying to save it. They
then discover the ape was a female who gave birth in the tower & the
reason she attacked anyone was because she was defending her unborn
baby...and boo hoo, wah wah. I was probably 8 or so when it was on.



--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
<sallywhitty@...> wrote:

>
> No - I didn't see this.
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> Was it about Snowflake?
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> What was sad?
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> Michael
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> _____
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> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On

Behalf Of

> John
> Sent: Saturday, 19 January 2008 9:48 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: OT: "Vanilla Gorilla"
>
> Didn't anybody else see the 70's made for TV film "The Ivory Ape?"

Had me

> crying like a little girl when I was a young lad. ;)
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In a message dated 1/19/2008 11:45:52 A.M. Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

  Oliver Stone (the one I wanted most if he took a personal interest in it, which he never did)

 

Isn't that a bit of a nonstarter?

He's been hanging out with Ugo Cavez lately,

rescuing captive tourists.

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael & Sally Whitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 2:58 PM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: OT: "Vanilla Gorilla"

Probably, Jeff B.  Hey – are you a newbie or is the Jeff #2 (like Jeff A and Jeff B)?  J

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Jeff
Sent: Saturday, 19 January 2008 2:06 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: OT: "Vanilla Gorilla"

Most likely Rick Baker with John Alexander playing the gorilla

Jeff B

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From: Tim "apefan"

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 6:55 PM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: OT: "Vanilla Gorilla"

Here are pics of Snowflake... ...

I wonder how they will do the gorilla in the film? CGI? Dye a black gorilla white??

Tim

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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael & Sally Whitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 11:20 PM

Subject: [PotaDG] Welcome Jeff B

Can you tell us a bit about yourself and your personal attraction to POTA?

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Jeff
Sent: Sunday, 20 January 2008 5:17 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: OT: "Vanilla Gorilla"

Yes, I guess I'm a "newbie"

Jeff B

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael & Sally Whitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 2:58 PM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: OT: "Vanilla Gorilla"

Probably, Jeff B.  Hey – are you a newbie or is the Jeff #2 (like Jeff A and Jeff B)?  J

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Jeff
Sent: Saturday, 19 January 2008 2:06 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: OT: "Vanilla Gorilla"

Most likely Rick Baker with John Alexander playing the gorilla

Jeff B

----- Original Message -----

From: Tim "apefan"

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 6:55 PM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: OT: "Vanilla Gorilla"

Here are pics of Snowflake... ...

I wonder how they will do the gorilla in the film? CGI? Dye a black gorilla white??

Tim

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 Adam Rifkin was the one who was going to ignore the sequels to POTA and pick up after the first film. He even had Taylor and Cornelius in early drafts (this was around 1988).

*** Are these earliest drafts available anywhere?***

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This was the one to star Arnie right?

Man – I tell yas – it would at LEAST have been a HIT!


*** Yeah, that was gonna be the Arnold vehicle, but even so, it doesn't mean it would have been a hit... TERMINATOR III didn't fare too well and let's not forget his send-up film "The Last Action Hero"... ***


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POTA isn't dead. It's referenced all the time in pop culture. Maybe it's just retired. It's no deader than it was in the '80's. These things go in cycles (except for "Star Wars").

*** I'd tend to disagree... From what I recall, SW was DEAD from about 1984/85 up until the mid-90's...***


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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael & Sally Whitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 4:12 PM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Dead or Alive (?)

Will we be alive when this visionary arrives?

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Sunday, 20 January 2008 10:06 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Dead or Alive (?)

  I think Peter Jackson applied at a point when Joe Roth was head of Fox and he didn't want to do a POTA movie (but he went on to remake "Mighty Joe Young " at Disney!).

  POTA isn't dead. It's referenced all the time in pop culture. Maybe it's just retired. It's no deader than it was in the '80's. These things go in cycles (except for "Star Wars"). It'll take a visionary to revive it, like they did with "Batman" or "Battlestar Galactica" (never though that would be a powerhouse).  Jeff

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael & Sally Whitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 2:49 PM

Subject: [PotaDG] Dead or Alive (?)

That’s interesting Jeff.  I thought they said “next” mainly because they had better things to do with their money and “talking monkeys” are still a risk – regardless of the fact that they once made money.

I mean – ask anyone who has financed anything POTA….

When I spoke to Medicom they clearly lost money (and really – HOW?!?!).  I thought marketing to the Japanese would be a good trick.  The fact that Medicom stopped making apes proves otherwise.

And this is ALL really weird because apes DID make money!  Look at all the toys and junk they brought out!  It was the precursor to all major sci-fi franchises!

But the recent trading card series flopped (well, maybe if he’d have listened to what the group volunteered…. ).  Palisades action figures bit the dust (as did the company I think), the REVOLUTION comics didn’t do too well.  It seems to be a poor decision to do anything apes!

The best stuff being done now is being produced in the houses of fans, and even these (Greg’s Trading Cards, Chris Hight’s action figures, Neil’s comics – to name a few) are not being appropriately celebrated.

I think we can all agree that POTA is dead.  Would everyone agree?

Michael

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Sunday, 20 January 2008 3:58 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Battle for the new Planet of the Apes

  Adam Rifkin was the one who was going to ignore the sequels to POTA and pick up after the first film. He even had Taylor and Cornelius in early drafts (this was around 1988). Peter Jackson also wanted to continue from the earlier films, and had Roddy in his corner. Fox said, "Next!"

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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael & Sally Whitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 4:13 PM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Battle for the new Planet of the Apes

You have spoken to Cameron again since your first meeting?

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Sunday, 20 January 2008 10:10 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Battle for the new Planet of the Apes

  Arnold was involved from like '93 - '98. By then his box office was shot.

  Cameron mentioned it recently. He says he had a "great" idea for "Apes" but Fox took their marbles and went home.

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael & Sally Whitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 2:56 PM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Battle for the new Planet of the Apes

I’d love to know more – but I wonder if he really remembers (or cares!).

This was the one to star Arnie right?

Man – I tell yas – it would at LEAST have been a HIT!

Michael

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Sunday, 20 January 2008 3:58 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Battle for the new Planet of the Apes

  James Cameron told me his idea was to concentrate on the first two movies "with some new ideas".

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To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 10:40 PM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Battle for the new Planet of the Apes

In a message dated 1/19/2008 11:45:52 A.M. Central Standard Time, veetus@earthlink. net writes:

  Oliver Stone (the one I wanted most if he took a personal interest in it, which he never did)

 

Isn't that a bit of a nonstarter?

He's been hanging out with Ugo Cavez lately,

rescuing captive tourists.

 

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----- Original Message -----

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To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 10:24 PM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Battle for the new Planet of the Apes

In a message dated 1/19/2008 11:45:43 AM Central Standard Time, veetus@earthlink. net writes:

 Adam Rifkin was the one who was going to ignore the sequels to POTA and pick up after the first film. He even had Taylor and Cornelius in early drafts (this was around 1988).

*** Are these earliest drafts available anywhere?***


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----- Original Message -----

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To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 10:31 PM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Dead or Alive (?)

In a message dated 1/19/2008 5:55:28 PM Central Standard Time, veetus@earthlink. net writes:

POTA isn't dead. It's referenced all the time in pop culture. Maybe it's just retired. It's no deader than it was in the '80's. These things go in cycles (except for "Star Wars").

*** I'd tend to disagree... From what I recall, SW was DEAD from about 1984/85 up until the mid-90's...* **


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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael & Sally Whitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 12:29 AM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Battle for the new Planet of the Apes

Thanks Jeff

There’s a chat thread there too where this is offered:

James Cameron's Planet of the Apes idea by Ivan_Mtl

Feb 7th, 2006 06:04:29 PM

First of all, I just have to thank Quint for his great (if all too brief) interview with James Cameron. You can definitely count me in amongst the fans of Mr. Cameron's films, and I am anxioulsy looking forward to see what he has in store for all of us over the next five years. Now, as to his Planet of the Apes... I distinctly remember reading articles about how he intended it to be a SEQUEL to the original films. Apparently, he had planned to use the original Charlton Heston crash footage from the first film, but instead of his ship landing in a lake in the middle of the desolate Forbidden Zone, it would have landed in a lake by a nearby ape-city (the time-line having been altered by events in the sequels). Other astronauts would soon follow and they would learn how Colonel Taylor's ship crash landed, etc. The big reveal would have been that Colonle Taylor was still alive and escaped with a female human (Nova), and began a colony of humans. Anyway, given Cameron's ability to weave a great time-paradox, I'm pretty sure that there was much more to the story than that. Still, this was the gist of the plot as I remember reading it. It's unfortunate for all of us that Fox decided to pass.

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Monday, 21 January 2008 5:26 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Battle for the new Planet of the Apes

  No, Cameron commented on POTA2001 here:

  http://www.aintitco ol.com/display. cgi?id=22405

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael & Sally Whitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 4:13 PM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Battle for the new Planet of the Apes

You have spoken to Cameron again since your first meeting?

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Sunday, 20 January 2008 10:10 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Battle for the new Planet of the Apes

  Arnold was involved from like '93 - '98. By then his box office was shot.

  Cameron mentioned it recently. He says he had a "great" idea for "Apes" but Fox took their marbles and went home.

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael & Sally Whitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 2:56 PM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Battle for the new Planet of the Apes

I’d love to know more – but I wonder if he really remembers (or cares!).

This was the one to star Arnie right?

Man – I tell yas – it would at LEAST have been a HIT!

Michael

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Sunday, 20 January 2008 3:58 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Battle for the new Planet of the Apes

  James Cameron told me his idea was to concentrate on the first two movies "with some new ideas".

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 I have one, provided by Eric Greene back in the day.

*** Is there any chance it will be available on Hunter's sight someday? If not, can you give any rough details of the plot? ***

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 "Star Wars" wasn't dead. The fans were just catching their breath.

*** That may be, but even with all the hyperventilating going on, you have to admit quite a few dropped from heart-attacks...***

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 10:06 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Dead or Alive (?)

  POTA isn't dead. It's referenced all the time in pop culture. Maybe it's just retired.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 8:50 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Dead or Alive (?)

But the recent trading card series flopped (well, maybe if he’d have listened to what the group volunteered….). 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 8:50 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Dead or Alive (?)

And this is ALL really weird because apes DID make money!  Look at all the toys and junk they brought out!

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 8:50 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Dead or Alive (?)

The best stuff being done now is being produced in the houses of fans, and even these (Greg’s Trading Cards, Chris Hight’s action figures, Neil’s comics – to name a few) are not being appropriately celebrated.

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Unfortunately, I think the many POTA references being made now and then
in the general media are nothing more than 'cute' nods to the franchise.
It's kind of like references we see to other 'classic' movies. The
Godfather (horsehead, "never ask me about my business", "I'll make you
an offer you can't refuse"), Taxi Driver ("You talkin to me?"), A
Streetcar Named Desire ("Stellaaaa!"), the list goes on and on.

Just because we see/hear these references does not mean that these
things are on the verge of a comeback. Quite the opposite. These a nods
to "Things of the past". Which for all intents and purposes, is exactly
how the general population (ourselves excluded of course) see POTA.

So is it dead or alive?

Depends on who you ask. For us here, it's is a 'alive' as we make it.
But out there? Dead.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@...>
Date: Monday, January 21, 2008 5:38 pm
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Dead or Alive (?)

> -- I personally believe that POTA really is dead and has been for
> quitesome time now. As far as I can see, all the pop culture
> references (and
> the Revolution comics and most recent action figures etc.) haven't
> helped to revive POTA and I don't see it making any kind of comeback
> myself.
>
> Why is there this continuing lack of interest? Why hasn't there even
> been the hint of a new movie when even real stinkers of movies that
> madeless money than Burton's have had sequels or prequels or
> whatever made.
> How come not Apes though? There has to be a reason for that.
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf
> Of Jeff K.
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 10:06 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Dead or Alive (?)
>
>
>
>
>
> POTA isn't dead. It's referenced all the time in pop culture. Maybe
> it's just retired.
> .
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----- Original Message -----

From: Dario Sciola

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 3:03 PM

Subject: Re: RE: [PotaDG] Dead or Alive (?)

Unfortunately, I think the many POTA references being made now and then
in the general media are nothing more than 'cute' nods to the franchise.
It's kind of like references we see to other 'classic' movies. The
Godfather (horsehead, "never ask me about my business", "I'll make you
an offer you can't refuse"), Taxi Driver ("You talkin to me?"), A
Streetcar Named Desire ("Stellaaaa! "), the list goes on and on.

Just because we see/hear these references does not mean that these
things are on the verge of a comeback. Quite the opposite. These a nods
to "Things of the past". Which for all intents and purposes, is exactly
how the general population (ourselves excluded of course) see POTA.

So is it dead or alive?

Depends on who you ask. For us here, it's is a 'alive' as we make it.
But out there? Dead.

Dario

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From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@bigpond. com>
Date: Monday, January 21, 2008 5:38 pm
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Dead or Alive (?)

> -- I personally believe that POTA really is dead and has been for
> quitesome time now. As far as I can see, all the pop culture
> references (and
> the Revolution comics and most recent action figures etc.) haven't
> helped to revive POTA and I don't see it making any kind of comeback
> myself.
>
> Why is there this continuing lack of interest? Why hasn't there even
> been the hint of a new movie when even real stinkers of movies that
> madeless money than Burton's have had sequels or prequels or
> whatever made.
> How come not Apes though? There has to be a reason for that.
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf
> Of Jeff K.
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 10:06 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Dead or Alive (?)
>
>
>
>
>
> POTA isn't dead. It's referenced all the time in pop culture. Maybe
> it's just retired.
> .
>
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> And is Simian Scrolls still being done?

A new issue has just been published. U.S. copies haven't arrived yet,
though.

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I persoanally don't want any new movies.....POTA lives in my mind and if that means that there are no new films or products then that;s fine.....(my bank account will be better off!).....I am content to let the original films stand the test of time and not have the anxiety build up for a new one.....

Tim

Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote:

-- I personally believe that POTA really is dead and has been for quite some time now. As far as I can see, all the pop culture references (and the Revolution comics and most recent action figures etc.) haven't helped to revive POTA and I don't see it making any kind of comeback myself.

 

Why is there this continuing lack of interest? Why hasn't there even been the hint of a new movie when even real stinkers of movies that made less money than Burton's have had sequels or prequels or whatever made. How come not Apes though? There has to be a reason for that.

 

Neil

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 10:06 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Dead or Alive (?)

  POTA isn't dead. It's referenced all the time in pop culture. Maybe it's just retired.

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In a message dated 1/21/2008 4:38:52 P.M. Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:

How come not Apes though?

 

I believe the reason is that nothing has come along to do

the source material justice, POTA2K1 included.  They only

let Burton do it because it was a re-imagining.  I think it will

be a while yet before anyone comes up with anything close.

 

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In a message dated 1/21/2008 4:47:52 P.M. Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:

there wasn't as much competition for kids' pocket money (and imaginations! )

 

That's for sure.

POTA was the only thing

between Fantastic Voyage

and Star Wars.  Unless you

count Soylent Green and Omega Man.

 

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To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
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Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Dead or Alive (?)

.html In a message dated 1/23/2008 1:54:42 AM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

Maybe it was a huge toy franchise, nothing of which actually sold!

*** I think that's true to an extent... I mean the market was saturated with the stuff, as it all seemed to have hit at once in a flurry of APES fever which was to be brought about by the TV series...

I think the stuff would have sold better had everything been released gradually, but then again, those who had the licenses weren't going to let a potential cash cow set in the pasture... ***


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.htmlFrom: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"

Sent: Wednesday, 23 January 2008 12:26 AM

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I personally don't want any new movies.....POTA lives in my mind and if that means that there are no new films or products then that's fine.....



*** I've been saying that for quite a few years now myself... I'd rather have APES rest in all it's greatness rather than be tarnished any more than it has been.***

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
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> I wonder how that stuff sold?
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> I know in Australia we only got a FRACTION of the toys and what we did get
> sat around on shelves until I got there! :-)
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> Maybe it was a huge toy franchise, nothing of which actually sold!
>
> Michael
>
I think with the classic 70's merchandise it probably sold ok at the time.

(In the UK we probably got more than yourself in Australia but still a fraction of what seemed to be available in the States.)

But the above ties in with a post I was going to add to why there's no sign of any new movie.

 POTA 2001  merchandise seems to really NOT have sold at all.

In the days of the tail well and truely wagging the dog (Merchandise being more important than a decent script,particularly if a studio thinks a film should be a "franchise")

If  Fox sees no company willing to pay for a licence for the toys, games etc (Because most were burnt in 2001) well... no film (Until they can get these "creative partners" on board some time in the future !!)

Best,Graham.

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: PofTAfan@...

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Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4:53 AM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Dead or Alive (?)

I'm going to disagree on that. The problem is not Fox or who is in charge  at the studio, the problem
is that ape fans are not organized. The fans of the 4400 are much more organized with their write-in campaign to
bring back the show on USA network. We need to be organized to get our voices out to Fox.

Also I have one question to ask the group. 
What plans do the POTA fans have to celebrate the 40th anniversary of the movie?

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It's really all about who is in charge at Fox and how much money they think they can make out of it.

 

Would anyone disagree?

 

It's really very simple.

 

Michael

 

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In a message dated 1/21/2008 4:38:52 P.M. Central Standard Time, ntfoster@bigpond. com writes:

How come not Apes though?

 

I believe the reason is that nothing has come along to do

the source material justice, POTA2K1 included.  They only

let Burton do it because it was a re-imagining.  I think it will

be a while yet before anyone comes up with anything close.

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael & Sally Whitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4:03 AM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Dead or Alive (?)

It’s really all about who is in charge at Fox and how much money they think they can make out of it.

Would anyone disagree?

It’s really very simple.

Michael

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Sent: Wednesday, 23 January 2008 4:47 PM
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In a message dated 1/21/2008 4:38:52 P.M. Central Standard Time, ntfoster@bigpond. com writes:

How come not Apes though?

I believe the reason is that nothing has come along to do

the source material justice, POTA2K1 included.  They only

let Burton do it because it was a re-imagining.  I think it will

be a while yet before anyone comes up with anything close.

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.html In a message dated 1/23/2008 6:58:43 PM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

That's a big question – what did get released for the TV Show?

The MEGO figures, a few Mix n Molds, the Viewmasters, three UK annuals, the four Effinger novels, a few belts (and/or belt buckles), the life sized Galen wall hanging, and a few other things I'll have to double check...


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.html In a message dated 1/23/2008 6:58:43 PM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

However most of it I stamped 1968 APJAC so who knows the real release date?

Actually, most of it has the date as 1967 (when the POTA name was copyrighted)... The release date of most everything was 74-75.


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.html In a message dated 1/23/2008 7:01:32 PM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

So if we got a movie made – even a 20 minute TV Show or animated feature of BEWARE THE BEAST – you would not change your opinion?


*** "If" that were the case, then I might change my direction a little... "But" as you know, unless fans make it themselves, it's highly unlikely it would ever see fruition... ***


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