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----- Original Message -----

From: jessica rotich

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 11:02 PM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] TV Show roles

Gee I don't recognize any of these names either. 

 

Jessica.

 

On 3/1/08, Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@ bigpond.com> wrote:

Thanks for your response Mike.

 

Anyone else?

 

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com
Sent: Sunday, 2 March 2008 3:08 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] TV Show roles

 

In a message dated 3/1/2008 7:36:59 PM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@ bigpond.com writes:

Does everyone here recognize these names?

*** Nope... ***

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Hi Folks:

Just wanted to let you all know that I posted a little write up about Cornelius' appearance at Wondercon 2008 in San Francisco and a hand full of photos of the event.
At some point in the near future, Dan Morgan and I will put together a video of the makeup process. So be on the look out for that!

Here's the link
Cornelius at WonderCon 2008 

-Tom

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On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Michael & Sally Whitty < sallywhitty@...> wrote:

Thanks Tom.

 

Co-incidentally, a few members here have recently been saying POTA fandom is lacking in convention presence.

 

Frankly, I think it's NUMBERS we are lacking!

 

Michael

 

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Rubalcava
Sent: Monday, 3 March 2008 12:58 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Cornelius at WonderCon 2008

 

Hi Folks:

Just wanted to let you all know that I posted a little write up about Cornelius' appearance at Wondercon 2008 in San Francisco and a hand full of photos of the event.
At some point in the near future, Dan Morgan and I will put together a video of the makeup process. So be on the look out for that!

Here's the link
Cornelius at WonderCon 2008 

-Tom

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Rubalcava
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 12:58 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Cornelius at WonderCon 2008

Hi Folks:

Just wanted to let you all know that I posted a little write up about Cornelius' appearance at Wondercon 2008 in San Francisco and a hand full of photos of the event.
At some point in the near future, Dan Morgan and I will put together a video of the makeup process. So be on the look out for that!

Here's the link
Cornelius at WonderCon 2008 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 6:35 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Cornelius at WonderCon 2008

Thanks Tom.

Co-incidentally, a few members here have recently been saying POTA fandom is lacking in convention presence.

Frankly, I think it’s NUMBERS we are lacking!

.

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On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 1:08 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote:

-- Like Michael I too think the problem for Apes fandom is a distinct lack of numbers. Tom, out of all the people who approached you for photos did many of them say whether they were die hard Apes fans?

 

Neil

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 6:35 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Cornelius at WonderCon 2008

Thanks Tom.

Co-incidentally, a few members here have recently been saying POTA fandom is lacking in convention presence.

Frankly, I think it's NUMBERS we are lacking!

.

See, i watch very little TV drama so most of these names go over my
head too. I guess the cast of the original Apes series were
established TV actors? Apart from Roddy.

I recognise David Tennant of course from Doctor Who.
Alan Dale (Ugly Betty, the O.C. I think, and of course Neighbours)
was just in an episode of Torchwood. He's got a great menacing voice
that would work through a prosthetic mask.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- Seriously? So you guys have never watched House or Six Feet
Under or
> even Doctor Who? Wow.
>
> Neil
>
>
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Behalf
> Of jessica rotich
> Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 5:03 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] TV Show roles
>
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> Gee I don't recognize any of these names either.
> .
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-----Original Message-----
From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 3:38 pm
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Cornelius at WonderCon 2008

On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 4:42 PM, <PofTAfan@...> wrote:

    Frankly I don't buy into the lacking numbers. The problem that I see is that we
are not organized as a fan club.  I love apes, I eat, sleep about apes, my license plate on my car reads
"POTA FAN".  I don't think that ape fans are a dying breed, and if some people think that it is, that's
their opinion.

Kevin
     
   

-----Original Message-----
From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 3:38 pm
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Cornelius at WonderCon 2008

Maybe there are some secret fans who are afraid to announce their passion.

Anyway, if ape fans are a dying breed, I'm doing my best to instill ape love among my progeny.  Already I have converted two of my 3 sons--the middle one I am still working on...

 

Jessica.

On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...> wrote:

Thanks Tom.

 

Co-incidentally, a few members here have recently been saying POTA fandom is lacking in convention presence.

 

Frankly, I think it's NUMBERS we are lacking!

 

Michael

 

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Rubalcava
Sent: Monday, 3 March 2008 12:58 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Cornelius at WonderCon 2008

 

Hi Folks:

Just wanted to let you all know that I posted a little write up about Cornelius' appearance at Wondercon 2008 in San Francisco and a hand full of photos of the event.
At some point in the near future, Dan Morgan and I will put together a video of the makeup process. So be on the look out for that!

Here's the link
Cornelius at WonderCon 2008 

-Tom

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-----Original Message-----
From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Cornelius at WonderCon 2008

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----- Original Message -----

From: PofTAfan@...

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 9:11 PM

Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [PotaDG] Cornelius at WonderCon 2008

Same here. My family don't understand the passion that I have for the
Planet of the Apes, but I can understand. But when I have people come up to me and ask
me what does "POTA FAN"  and to hear some of the answer that they give is classic.
Some of the people think it's some Star Wars character or something crazy, but when I
tell them that it for Planet of the Apes they understand. I wore this to last year comic-con
in San Diego and i'm going to wear it again this year to the con to celebrate the 40th
anniversary of Apes.

I love POTA.

Kevin
Apes Rule!!

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-----Original Message-----
From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Cornelius at WonderCon 2008

Kevin, if you passed me by on the freeway with that license plate, I would chase you down!  I have yet to meet another POTA fan who eats, sleeps, and breathes Planet of the Apes.  It is the first thought on my mind and the last...which is probably what keeps me awake most nights.  My family can't understand the passion I feel for Planet of the Apes.

 

Jessica.

 

On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 4:42 PM, <PofTAfan@aol. com> wrote:

    Frankly I don't buy into the lacking numbers. The problem that I see is that we
are not organized as a fan club.  I love apes, I eat, sleep about apes, my license plate on my car reads
"POTA FAN".  I don't think that ape fans are a dying breed, and if some people think that it is, that's
their opinion.

Kevin
     
   

-----Original Message-----
From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 3:38 pm
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Cornelius at WonderCon 2008

Maybe there are some secret fans who are afraid to announce their passion.

Anyway, if ape fans are a dying breed, I'm doing my best to instill ape love among my progeny.  Already I have converted two of my 3 sons--the middle one I am still working on...

 

Jessica.

On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@ bigpond.com> wrote:

Thanks Tom.

 

Co-incidentally, a few members here have recently been saying POTA fandom is lacking in convention presence.

 

Frankly, I think it's NUMBERS we are lacking!

 

Michael

 

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Tom Rubalcava
Sent: Monday, 3 March 2008 12:58 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] Cornelius at WonderCon 2008

 

Hi Folks:

Just wanted to let you all know that I posted a little write up about Cornelius' appearance at Wondercon 2008 in San Francisco and a hand full of photos of the event.
At some point in the near future, Dan Morgan and I will put together a video of the makeup process. So be on the look out for that!

Here's the link
Cornelius at WonderCon 2008 

-Tom

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@...
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 10:42 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Cornelius at WonderCon 2008

    Frankly I don't buy into the lacking numbers. The problem that I see is that we
are not organized as a fan club.  I love apes, I eat, sleep about apes, my license plate on my car reads
"POTA FAN".  I don't think that ape fans are a dying breed, and if some people think that it is, that's
their opinion.

.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff <skintricks@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 12:36 am
Subject: Re: Re: [PotaDG] Cornelius at WonderCon 2008

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@...
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 3:11 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Cornelius at WonderCon 2008

But when I have people come up to me and ask
me what does "POTA FAN"  and to hear some of the answer that they give is classic.
Some of the people think it's some Star Wars character or something crazy, but when I
tell them that it for Planet of the Apes they understand. I wore this to last year comic-con
in San Diego and i'm going to wear it again this year to the con to celebrate the 40th
anniversary of Apes.

.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 12:55 am
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Cornelius at WonderCon 2008

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@...
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 4:08 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Cornelius at WonderCon 2008

I know at my job I know several who are ape fans,

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On 3/3/08, Neil Foster < ntfoster@...> wrote:

-- You should get them to join this group then, POTA needs as many fans communicating with each other as is possible.

 

Neil

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@...
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 4:08 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Cornelius at WonderCon 2008

I know at my job I know several who are ape fans,

.

On 3/3/08, jessica rotich < jessicarotich@...> wrote:

I have only met one Planet of the Apes fan from one of the forums I frequent, when he was visiting the SF Bay Area.  The only other Planet of the Apes fan I know of is my 3 year old toddler. 

 

Jessica.

 

On 3/3/08, Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote:

-- You should get them to join this group then, POTA needs as many fans communicating with each other as is possible.

 

Neil

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@...
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 4:08 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Cornelius at WonderCon 2008

I know at my job I know several who are ape fans,

.

On 3/3/08, jessica rotich < jessicarotich@...> wrote:

Kevin, I was unable to see what you wore to the comic con.  I see that it's a picture of something, but I can't view it.

Jessica.

 

On 3/3/08, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@... > wrote:

I have only met one Planet of the Apes fan from one of the forums I frequent, when he was visiting the SF Bay Area.  The only other Planet of the Apes fan I know of is my 3 year old toddler. 

 

Jessica.

 

On 3/3/08, Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote:

-- You should get them to join this group then, POTA needs as many fans communicating with each other as is possible.

 

Neil

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@...
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 4:08 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Cornelius at WonderCon 2008

I know at my job I know several who are ape fans,

.

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----- Original Message -----

From: PofTAfan@...

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 9:57 PM

Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [PotaDG] Cornelius at WonderCon 2008

Are you in Virginia?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff <skintricks@cox. net>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 12:36 am
Subject: Re: Re: [PotaDG] Cornelius at WonderCon 2008

So you're the reason I couldn't get POTA FAN  for my plate.

 

Jeff B

----- Original Message -----

From: PofTAfan@aol. com

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 9:11 PM

Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: [PotaDG] Cornelius at WonderCon 2008

Same here. My family don't understand the passion that I have for the
Planet of the Apes, but I can understand. But when I have people come up to me and ask
me what does "POTA FAN"  and to hear some of the answer that they give is classic.
Some of the people think it's some Star Wars character or something crazy, but when I
tell them that it for Planet of the Apes they understand. I wore this to last year comic-con
in San Diego and i'm going to wear it again this year to the con to celebrate the 40th
anniversary of Apes.

I love POTA.

Kevin
Apes Rule!!

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-----Original Message-----
From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Cornelius at WonderCon 2008

Kevin, if you passed me by on the freeway with that license plate, I would chase you down!  I have yet to meet another POTA fan who eats, sleeps, and breathes Planet of the Apes.  It is the first thought on my mind and the last...which is probably what keeps me awake most nights.  My family can't understand the passion I feel for Planet of the Apes.

 

Jessica.

 

On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 4:42 PM, <PofTAfan@aol. com> wrote:

    Frankly I don't buy into the lacking numbers. The problem that I see is that we
are not organized as a fan club.  I love apes, I eat, sleep about apes, my license plate on my car reads
"POTA FAN".  I don't think that ape fans are a dying breed, and if some people think that it is, that's
their opinion.

Kevin
     
   

-----Original Message-----
From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 3:38 pm
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Cornelius at WonderCon 2008

Maybe there are some secret fans who are afraid to announce their passion.

Anyway, if ape fans are a dying breed, I'm doing my best to instill ape love among my progeny.  Already I have converted two of my 3 sons--the middle one I am still working on...

 

Jessica.

On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@ bigpond.com> wrote:

Thanks Tom.

 

Co-incidentally, a few members here have recently been saying POTA fandom is lacking in convention presence.

 

Frankly, I think it's NUMBERS we are lacking!

 

Michael

 

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Tom Rubalcava
Sent: Monday, 3 March 2008 12:58 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] Cornelius at WonderCon 2008

 

Hi Folks:

Just wanted to let you all know that I posted a little write up about Cornelius' appearance at Wondercon 2008 in San Francisco and a hand full of photos of the event.
At some point in the near future, Dan Morgan and I will put together a video of the makeup process. So be on the look out for that!

Here's the link
Cornelius at WonderCon 2008 

-Tom

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Well, the may not have disclosed full Ape fandom, but they sure as
heck knew Cornelius. Each camera bug called out something like, "Hey
Cornelius, can I get a shot of you?" People of different age.

As Dan and I approached the Con, we asked ourselves, How many other
Apes - Corneliuses or Ziras do you think we'll see?" There were none.I
honestly believe, however that there's a multitude out there that have
seen the original Pota films, especially the people that attend Cons.
The films are classic sci-fi.

Tom

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- Like Michael I too think the problem for Apes fandom is a distinct
> lack of numbers. Tom, out of all the people who approached you for
> photos did many of them say whether they were die hard Apes fans?
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf
> Of Michael & Sally Whitty
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 6:35 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Cornelius at WonderCon 2008
>
>
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> Thanks Tom.
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> Co-incidentally, a few members here have recently been saying POTA
> fandom is lacking in convention presence.
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>
> Frankly, I think it's NUMBERS we are lacking!
>
> .
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> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Rubalcava
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 5:18 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Cornelius at WonderCon 2008

I honestly believe, however that there's a multitude out there that have
seen the original Pota films, especially the people that attend Cons.

.

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-----Original Message-----
From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 1:38 am
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Cornelius at WonderCon 2008

On 3/4/08, PofTAfan@... <PofTAfan@...> wrote:

it's of Ceasar, Lisa and Young Cornelius. A got the shirt at a place called
Cotton Rotton. I also got one with Zira holding the picket sign "Wage Peace not War"

Kevin

 

-----Original Message-----
From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 1:38 am
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Cornelius at WonderCon 2008

Kevin, I was unable to see what you wore to the comic con.  I see that it's a picture of something, but I can't view it.

Jessica.

 

On 3/3/08, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@... > wrote:

I have only met one Planet of the Apes fan from one of the forums I frequent, when he was visiting the SF Bay Area.  The only other Planet of the Apes fan I know of is my 3 year old toddler. 

 

Jessica.

 

On 3/3/08, Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote:

-- You should get them to join this group then, POTA needs as many fans communicating with each other as is possible.

 

Neil

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@...
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 4:08 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Cornelius at WonderCon 2008

I know at my job I know several who are ape fans,

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I too wore a Planet of the Apes t-shirt almost everyday to the San
Diego Comic Con. Comic illustator Mike Ploog, a couple of vendors,
Mike Nelson from Mstk 3000, Brian Henson, all made comments about my
shirts, but not many fans seemed to be very excited. I did have
people who commented on the shirt I have showing Urko saying "I WANT
YOU to take all humans & do with them what you will because the only
good human is a dead human, but otherwise it didn't seem to catch
anyones attention.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, PofTAfan@... wrote:
>
>
> it's of Ceasar, Lisa and Young Cornelius. A got the shirt at a
place called
> Cotton Rotton. I also got one with Zira holding the picket
sign "Wage Peace not War"
>
> Kevin
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 1:38 am
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Cornelius at WonderCon 2008
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> Kevin, I was unable to see what you wore to the comic con.? I see
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> Jessica.
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>
> On 3/3/08, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> I have only met one Planet of the Apes fan from one of the forums I
frequent, when he was visiting the SF Bay Area.? The only other
Planet of the Apes fan I know of is my 3 year old toddler.?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of PofTAfan@...
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On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Michael & Sally Whitty < sallywhitty@...> wrote:

That's been my experience on the whole too – people say "hey – Planet of the Apes!  COOL!".

 

But they actually only saw Battle or Conquest of Burton's abomination!

 

That, to me, is a person who recognizes your shirt….not a person who would pay to WEAR a shirt (which is the LEAST I would expect from a "FAN"!).

 

Again, it's hard to define a "FAN"….but I guess a person would have to have SOMETHING POTA in their house?

 

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John
Sent: Wednesday, 5 March 2008 6:31 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Cornelius at WonderCon 2008

 

I too wore a Planet of the Apes t-shirt almost everyday to the San
Diego Comic Con. Comic illustator Mike Ploog, a couple of vendors,
Mike Nelson from Mstk 3000, Brian Henson, all made comments about my
shirts, but not many fans seemed to be very excited. I did have
people who commented on the shirt I have showing Urko saying "I WANT
YOU to take all humans & do with them what you will because the only
good human is a dead human, but otherwise it didn't seem to catch
anyones attention.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , PofTAfan@... wrote:
>
>
> it's of Ceasar, Lisa and Young Cornelius. A got the shirt at a
place called
> Cotton Rotton. I also got one with Zira holding the picket
sign "Wage Peace not War"
>
> Kevin
>
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael & Sally Whitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 1:01 PM

Subject: [PotaDG] Fans

That’s been my experience on the whole too – people say “hey – Planet of the Apes!  COOL!”.

But they actually only saw Battle or Conquest of Burton’s abomination!

That, to me, is a person who recognizes your shirt….not a person who would pay to WEAR a shirt (which is the LEAST I would expect from a “FAN”!).

Again, it’s hard to define a “FAN”….but I guess a person would have to have SOMETHING POTA in their house?

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of John
Sent: Wednesday, 5 March 2008 6:31 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Cornelius at WonderCon 2008

I too wore a Planet of the Apes t-shirt almost everyday to the San
Diego Comic Con. Comic illustator Mike Ploog, a couple of vendors,
Mike Nelson from Mstk 3000, Brian Henson, all made comments about my
shirts, but not many fans seemed to be very excited. I did have
people who commented on the shirt I have showing Urko saying "I WANT
YOU to take all humans & do with them what you will because the only
good human is a dead human, but otherwise it didn't seem to catch
anyones attention.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, PofTAfan@... wrote:
>
>
> it's of Ceasar, Lisa and Young Cornelius. A got the shirt at a
place called
> Cotton Rotton. I also got one with Zira holding the picket
sign "Wage Peace not War"
>
> Kevin
>
>

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:

>
> -- Yeah I agree there is a vast number of people out there who have seen
> the films but I'm sure that most of them aren't die hard fans. I'm sure
> plenty of people have also seen Jaws or such like and know all about it
> but aren't mad for it.
>
> Neil

True, Neil. I meant to say though, that the folks at these Cons are
mostly appreciators of Pota and recognize a "classic sci-fi" as a genre.

-Tom

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
>
> That's been my experience on the whole too - people say "hey - Planet of the
> Apes! COOL!".
>
>
>
> But they actually only saw Battle or Conquest of Burton's abomination!
>
>
>
> That, to me, is a person who recognizes your shirt..not a person who would
> pay to WEAR a shirt (which is the LEAST I would expect from a "FAN"!).
>
>
>
> Again, it's hard to define a "FAN"..but I guess a person would have to have
> SOMETHING POTA in their house?
>
>

Just a few thoughts on the topic off the top of my head, so I might change my mind come tomorrow

POTA seems to be in a "strange" place in pop culture.

There's obviously an appetite for Apes (see Burton's 2001 opening box office) but Joe public has relegated it to a certain type of spot (Oh... that's that movie in the Simpson's with the cute song)

It's viewed with   nostalgic affection, most people "get" the references, but that's as far as it goes.

I think Tom calls it "Classic sc-fi" in one of his posts and I think thats the category the general public puts POTA in, more Outer limits  than say StarWars.

This ofcourse gives Fox a headache because they see POTA as a potential StarWars like franchise and can't understand why this doesn't work .

If you ask me It's apples and oranges...

Best, Graham.

PS oh ... I haven't got any ape t-shirts but that's 'cause I've got a "funny neck"  don't ask !!!

-----Original Message-----
From: Graham Hill <shop@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 5:44 am
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Fans

On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 5:00 AM, <PofTAfan@...> wrote:

When people see my licence plate after I tell them what it is and the T-shirts that I wear they
also say Planet of the Apes - I love that movie, but they remember the original, most of the people say
that the Tim Burton version is garbage.

To me some fans remember the original POTA more than the Tim Burton abomination proves to me
that the classic is much better than any reimagine version. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Graham Hill <shop@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 5:44 am
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Fans

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
>
> That's been my experience on the whole too - people say "hey - Planet of the
> Apes! COOL!".
>
>
>
> But they actually only saw Battle or Conquest of Burton's abomination!
>
>
>
> That, to me, is a person who recognizes your shirt..not a person who would
> pay to WEAR a shirt (which is the LEAST I would expect from a "FAN"!).
>
>
>
> Again, it's hard to define a "FAN"..but I guess a person would have to have
> SOMETHING POTA in their house?
>
>

Just a few thoughts on the topic off the top of my head, so I might change my mind come tomorrow

POTA seems to be in a "strange" place in pop culture.

There's obviously an appetite for Apes (see Burton's 2001 opening box office) but Joe public has relegated it to a certain type of spot (Oh... that's that movie in the Simpson's with the cute song)

It's viewed with   nostalgic affection, most people "get" the references, but that's as far as it goes.

I think Tom calls it "Classic sc-fi" in one of his posts and I think thats the category the general public puts POTA in, more Outer limits  than say StarWars.

This ofcourse gives Fox a headache because they see POTA as a potential StarWars like franchise and can't understand why this doesn't work .

If you ask me It's apples and oranges...

Best, Graham.

PS oh ... I haven't got any ape t-shirts but that's 'cause I've got a "funny neck"  don't ask !!!

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Everyone please join in wishing Neil a happy 21st Birthday! :)

Michael

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In a message dated 3/4/2008 10:00:06 A.M. Central Standard Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

I have never seen that one!!!! 

 

I haven't seen the shirt Jess,

but the pic is on the last page of Kim's book.

 

 

T

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On 3/5/08, sallywhitty@... <sallywhitty@...> wrote:

Everyone please join in wishing Neil a happy 21st Birthday! :)

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Everyone please join in wishing Neil a happy 21st Birthday! :)
>
> Michael
>
 Happy birthday Neil !!!!

Best wishes Graham.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, <sallywhitty@ ...> wrote:
>
> Everyone please join in wishing Neil a happy 21st Birthday! :)
>
> Michael
>
 Happy birthday Neil !!!!

Best wishes Graham.

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Happy birthday Neil.......!!


Tim

--- sallywhitty@... wrote:

> Everyone please join in wishing Neil a happy 21st
> Birthday! :)
>
> Michael
>

Happy Birthday, Neil!

Greg

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Everyone please join in wishing Neil a happy 21st Birthday! :)
>
> Michael
>

Have a great birthday Neil!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "gp3085" <urko3085@...> wrote:
>
> Happy Birthday, Neil!
>
> Greg
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, <sallywhitty@> wrote:
> >
> > Everyone please join in wishing Neil a happy 21st Birthday! :)
> >
> > Michael
> >
>

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Yeah Happy Birthday Neil

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I'll wish Neil a Happy Birthday but with one caveat.
I know for a FACT that he is not 21, so don't buy into that.
He's 22 and he told me so himself so there!

Now I'm going off to pack for a week long conference in sunny Florida so
I can get away from this wretched nasty snow filled winter.

You'll here from me when I get back.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: sallywhitty@...
Date: Wednesday, March 5, 2008 10:58 pm
Subject: [PotaDG] Happy Birthday Neil - you old bugger! :)

> Everyone please join in wishing Neil a happy 21st Birthday! :)
>
> Michael
>
>
> To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

21st Birthday? I know our hippie is a little older than that. Happy
Birthday..... hippie. ;)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Everyone please join in wishing Neil a happy 21st Birthday! :)
>
> Michael
>

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Date:		Friday March 7, 2008
Time:		All Day
Repeats:		This event repeats every year.
Notes:		Happy Birthday Arthur! (Producer: Planet of the Apes (1968) Beneath the Planet of the Apes (1970) Escape from the Planet of the Apes (1971) Conquest of the Planet of the Apes (1972) Battle for the Planet of the Apes (1973))
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It seems that not only this year we celebrate POTA's 40th, the original "King Kong" premeried in NYC on March 2, 1933 making this his 75th anniversary! So Happy Birthday to the big guy!

Tim

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Title:		Booth Coleman's Birthday
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Title:		POTA Makeup Test
Date:		Saturday March 8, 2008
Time:		All Day
Repeats:		This event repeats every year.
Notes:		On this day in 1966 the original Planet of the Apes Makeup test featuring Edward G. Robinson as Dr. Zaius was filmed, paving the way for the filming of the movie Planet of the Apes.
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How are you liking the new issues of AC?

No, I didn't buy them, but I am curious as to what you think of them.


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I don't post here as often as I'd like but try to check in as often as
I can. Must say I must've missed something big?

Don't know whats gone! I'm sure this could be sorted out?
He sounds very up-set about something. Hope he's alright.

JBK

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <ironman1188@...> wrote:
>
> I don't post here as often as I'd like but try to check in as often
as
> I can. Must say I must've missed something big?
>

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I'm not paying good money for that!

I don't blame you at all. I can't say I was ever really impressed with the content of the few issues I do have from . Something like that "has" potential, but it won't have it the way it is currently.

He's a talented rip-off artist Mike, as you know.

  I cannot disagree with you there. Anyone who sells items they don't even have in stock (in the case I'm     talking about it was the comics) or sells issues of things they don't even have ready to go should be investigated for mail fraud or something you'd think.

After he advertised 5 issues for sale, he emailed me and asked if I wanted to send a picture of myself, a rough outline of a plot, and a few other things.

In other words, HE ADVERTISED THEM BEFORE THEY ARE COMPLETE!!!!!

  I thought it was quite strange that after you and he exchanged a few posts here on the board and he was saying  he needed/wanted material for the "40th Anniversary" issue(s) and to contact him if anyone wanted to contribute that all of a sudden a month or so later not only is one issue available, (I'd suspect the touted 40th Anniversary issue) but five issues total, all ready to go after not even having enough material for one issue.      

Anything for a buck I guess.


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How come so many collectors also supposedly have the original Roddy costumes?  Very strange indeed.

I was thinking the same thing. Yes there were probably a couple of different costumes made for McDowall, but there can't be as many as what are for sale all of the time. Either people are just making things up about them or they're fraudualent. By that I mean they could be real film worn outfits, but they're just being touted as Roddy's because he is the name most associated with APES.


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I can no longer see the point of this group.  It's really only here for the poor bastards who will be bullied out of having their say elsewhere, and it seemed those very people are more chatty over there anyway.  

I said as much here as I could. I said a lot during the whole thing about the Zira/Cornelius Car Show (which just seemed to vanish all of a sudden). People commented on the new pictures of the Cornelius make-up at the recent show and others just tossed around how tey show they're an APES fan. I don't quite see where all of this came from. It goes in spurts like every other egroup.






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WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!?


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 3:56 pm
Subject: [PotaDG] See ya.

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WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!?

I was thinking the same thing.

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , DrZaiusDavis@... wrote:

>
> WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!?

--Whilst I can fully understand Michael's frustrations he is out of
line here and this and his previous post have been removed as per one
of the few group rules that we have.

It is a sad day when the creator of the Group decides its time to turn
his back on it and I wish him all the best.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "DONNA SPIRES" <dspires501@...> wrote:

> Happy Birthday Neil!

-- Thanks very much folks!

Neil

Yeah, its an old movie that not many people care about but I thought
that was the point of this group, to connect with people who still got
enjoyment from those films, etc. Many of my greatest childhood memories
all centered around Planet of the Apes & that's why I have a room in my
home filled with useless toys, etc. etc. ....cause those things still
had meaning to me & with this group I found people who (at least on
some level) felt the same. I've always went to this group because I
felt more comfortable here & loved the talented people I've met here.
When I've had something to share, I've always brought it here first.

What happened to make you so upset with this group, Michael?

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , mlccougar@... wrote:

> > I don't blame you at all. I can't say I was ever really impressed

with the content of the few issues I do have

-- Has anyone got any of the new issues yet? If so maybe they can give
us an idea of what to expect. I can't comment about them until I see
them myself.

Neil

Is everything okay, Neil? Seemed a little more than the usual
frustrated trying to keep the group fresh & people posting this time
around.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, DrZaiusDavis@ wrote:
> >
> > WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!?
>
> --Whilst I can fully understand Michael's frustrations he is out of
> line here and this and his previous post have been removed as per one
> of the few group rules that we have.
>
> It is a sad day when the creator of the Group decides its time to turn
> his back on it and I wish him all the best.
>
> Neil
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , Chris Hight <snickertown@...> wrote:

> I have to let you know, that POTA awesome artwork you did all of

those years back has been such an inspiration! My plan is to make a
photo of the figures in the pose of the artwork you drew.

-- Hi Chris, can't wait to see a copy of that, it'll be like seeing
the original painting come to life!

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:
>
> Yeah, its an old movie that not many people care about but I thought
> that was the point of this group, to connect with people who still got
> enjoyment from those films, etc. Many of my greatest childhood memories
> all centered around Planet of the Apes & that's why I have a room in my
> home filled with useless toys, etc. etc. ....cause those things still
> had meaning to me & with this group I found people who (at least on
> some level) felt the same. I've always went to this group because I
> felt more comfortable here & loved the talented people I've met here.
> When I've had something to share, I've always brought it here first.
>
> What happened to make you so upset with this group, Michael?
>

I really don't know how to respond to Michael's post...

I sent him a private E-mail about an hour ago( just wishing him all the best) as I'm not sure he's here to see these.

I just want to echo some thing here that I said to him in the message and that is when I started posting in about 2005 he (and Neil !!) made me feel very welcome and I'd like to publicly thank him for that.

Best,Graham.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Graham Hill" <shop@...> wrote:

>( just wishing him all the best) as I'm not sure he's here to see these.

-- He's not, he's gone. I'm sorry to see him go.

Neil

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil <ntfoster@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 7:38 pm
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Whitty and AC

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 4:56 pm
Subject: [PotaDG] See ya.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@...
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 11:36 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] See ya.

   I really can't understand what was the reason for this rant.   I had my say in this
room many of times and had people either ignore my comments that I said in here.
I am sorry to see Michael quit, he had some spirited comments that  me think but I would
never bully Michael or anyone else who had conversations about their love of apes, I
may disagree with some comments but would never bully anyone about their
comments.

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Well, I'd like to echo Graham's comment that Michael and Neil have
always been very welcoming and encouraging to new members. I know
both of you sometimes get frustrated with apathy on the group and
especially with the back-biting that goes on. A while back I was
looking through some of the posts from years ago on the message
archive and it was sad to see people who had been friendly and co-
operative fall out, and Michael especially has suffered from the
nastier side of POTA fandom. Michael's enthusiasm for this group has
helped keep it going, and also might explain his frustration. I hope
whatever prompted this can be resolved and we might see Michael back
here soon.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> -- I don't think it has anything to do with the current state of
posting
> or lack of it or whatever on this group. You good folks have no
interest
> in what goes on behind the scenes with these groups, which is fair
> enough, so I won't be dragging up stuff to try and explain things.
>
> Time to move on.
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of PofTAfan@...
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 11:36 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] See ya.
>
>
>
>
>
> I really can't understand what was the reason for this rant. I
had
> my say in this
> room many of times and had people either ignore my comments that I
said
> in here.
> I am sorry to see Michael quit, he had some spirited comments that
me
> think but I would
> never bully Michael or anyone else who had conversations about their
> love of apes, I
> may disagree with some comments but would never bully anyone about
their
>
> comments.
> .
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?
s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
> sgId=47800/stime=1205026543/nc1=5008817/nc2=3848607/nc3=3858797>
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: Neil Foster

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 6:12 PM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] See ya.

-- I don't think it has anything to do with the current state of posting or lack of it or whatever on this group. You good folks have no interest in what goes on behind the scenes with these groups, which is fair enough, so I won't be dragging up stuff to try and explain things.

 

Time to move on.

 

Neil

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@aol. com
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 11:36 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] See ya.

   I really can't understand what was the reason for this rant.   I had my say in this
room many of times and had people either ignore my comments that I said in here.
I am sorry to see Michael quit, he had some spirited comments that  me think but I would
never bully Michael or anyone else who had conversations about their love of apes, I
may disagree with some comments but would never bully anyone about their
comments.

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