This Saturday night the 28th at midnight at the State Theatre!

At the east end of Liberty Street, above Urban Outfitters in downtown Ann Arbor.
233 State Street
Ann Arbor, MI 48104

http://michtheater.org/state.php

As I mentioned here a few months ago, after hearing that a number of
creators involved the "Revolution on the Planet of the Apes" comics
series were scheduled to appear at this years edition of the Paradise
Toronto Comicon as well as a special artist that worked on the 70's
Marvel POTA magazines, I made plans to get down there and see all
these guys in person. Well the con was last weekend and it was truly
an Ape lovers paradise for myself.

I took a bunch of pictures (see Photos > Paradise2008) and ended up
with more original art as well. I'll try to recap the weekend
chronologically so as not to forget anything or anyone.

I first met up again with Max (Salgood Sam) Douglas, whom I had
already met in Montreal a few months ago to pick up the RotPotA page I
bought off him. We did not chat too much about Apes as I had already
picked his brain before. I did take the opportunity to have Max sign
all four RotPotA issues he worked on.

Next up was Steve Molnar. He was only called in later in the
production when they needed someone who could jump in quickly. As I
talked to him, his exuberant fondness for the original Apes movies was
evident. This would be something of a recurring theme from the whole
gang all weekend long. This goes a long way in explaining the success
of RotPotA; these guys were all very familiar with the legacy material
and respectful of it. Steve enjoyed the degree of liberty that was
provided for this project, something that he said was greater than the
industry norm. At the same time he pointed out that as an artist he
feels that some degree of direction is required to ensure that what is
being produced is consistent.

Next up was Kent Burles. I especially enjoyed meeting him as he was
one of the artists that worked on the 1980's Malibu POTA series. I dug
out a few issues of those Malibus for him to sign as well the
Revolution comics. He did not bring any POTA art but I did pick up a
half-page zombie/ghoul drawing of his. Having looked at a lot of his
art, I find that his horror pieces are where he really excels. What I
found surprising was that he considered those 'easy' to draw compared
to other things. After explaining to him that I had all but two of the
Malibu apes series, he even offered to check his personal stash when
he got back home to see if he has the issues I need. Talk about
customer service! I was just plain thrilled to meet him in person, and
here he is willing to plunder his own books for me.

Next up was Gabriel Morrissette another native Montrealer and well
known artist in the local circles. Much to my surprise he did bring
along a number of POTA sektches that he had done in preparation for
RotPotA and luckily I was able to buy one of these off him. What I
found interesting from the sketches was that he had created a number
of versions of the same scenes/pages. Always seeking perfection I
guess. They ALL looked great to me.

Of course, I had to find Ty "the guy" Templeton who spearheaded/edited
this whole project, provided constant feedback to us fans prior to,
during and after publication of the series and was the (forgive me)
"Ty that binds" the crew together. He proved elusive at first, but
when I finally did track him down, we had a nice long chat about the
project, the unfortunately dim prospects of seeing a trade paperback
edition of the whole series printed, and many, many other things. As
we chatted, Ty started drawing a cool ape head shot for me. Most of
the discussion centered around the apparent reluctance of the
publisher to put out a trade edition. (More on that later)

(Off topic but I know that others here are also aware of the long
awaited Hoverboy comic so I just wanted to touch on that. Originally
advertised in issues of RotPotA, the comic should finally come out in
a month or so. Ty had printed preview copy right there with him that I
was able to peruse. The good news is that a long version of the short
"Documentary" that is available online has been shot and a number of
SF oriented TV channel are inquiring about airing it. Space channel
here in Canada, SCI-FI channel in the US, CTV, etc. So look for it soon).

Before leaving Ty, I thanked him for bending the Canadian content only
rules for Revolution and printing some of Neil Fosters art. As Ty
said, he was just too good an artist to leave out. I agree.

Before the end of the first day, I finally found Herb Trimpe sitting
at a table ahead of a long line of fans waiting for him to draw stuff
in their sketch books. All I wanted was an autograph in one the 70's
POTA Marvel mags as he drew stories in some of the last issues that I
brought along. I did not want to disturb him drawing and it was
begining to look like I would not get a chance. But I hovered around
for a while and was rewarded as he finished a drawing and took a
breather at which point I was able to hand him over an issue to sign.
He smiled at the magazine, signed it and then nearly shocked me when
he said that he still had a lot of that original art at home and
wished he had brought some along. Now just seeing that would have been
something, but I suspect that the selling price (if it was even
offered for sale) would have been out of my pocketbook range. But the
honour of meeting at least one of the original POTA artists was one to
savour that day.

Sam Agro was another artist that was hard to track down, but I
eventually found him sitting at the table for the new Crystal Fractal
comics group. He too was glad to see a fellow Apes fan and gladly
signed my comics. I especially wanted to meet Sam as he was the one
that draw the controversial backup story in issue 4 of Revolution.
That is the story with Taylor's daughter. As I told Sam, it was very
thought provoking but befiting the nature of Apes vs. Humans. We
reminisced about our favorite Marvel apes stories (his being the
fighting ape and human that ended up having to collaborate in order to
survive) and it was then that he gave me a quick rundown of a proposed
backstory for Revolution that was eventually nixed as it contained
religious overtones that some felt were to strong. If a Trade ever
does get made, this story would be a likely extra feature.

Tom Fowler was next. It was Tom Fowler here in Ottawa that first broke
the news to me (and hence the DG) that there was going to be a new Ape
comic series. This was months before production had started. I have
met with him since then to sign my comics, but I still had issue 6 for
him to sign on this weekend. He brought along many of the POTA pages,
and I had a hard time to pick which one I wanted but eventually
settled on the splash page with the gorilla sitting in the president's
oval office.

I knew that Joe O'Brien was around the con somewhere but unlike the
many artists, writers don't usually sit at a table for a period of
time for fans to gather around and meet. Luckily I met up with Joe
hovering around Tom's table and once again had a great talk with a
true POTA fan. He talked about how he brought in many of the canon
elements of the movies while at the same time injecting something new,
particularly building up Caesar as being somewhat clairvoyant and
psychic based on the shot in Conquest where we see him silently
guiding and building the ape army. Inevitably, the topic of the POTA
saga being a circular timeline as opposed to a tangential one came up
and he expressed his views on that. While we are in the minority, I
was glad to report that he is indeed a "Circularist".

So that was the roundup to a magnificent POTA weekend. As fantastic as
it was, it could have been even better had Attila Adorjany been there.
He was originally scheduled to attend as well, but had to cancel just
days before.

One last thing I'd like to add is that while the prospects of having
Revolution come out as a Trade seems dim, most of the fellows were
inclined that just maybe, the publisher could be persuaded. I'm going
to see if I can get the contact information and then write (real
letter folks!) a personal note. As he already has almost all the
material he needs (just a bit of work packaging it all together), he
may be persuaded.

Dario

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Uh oh!  Dario has turned into Patrick.

 

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Yeah, I was going to put a disclaimer. Certainly not my usual message,
but I felt there was a lot to tell that would be of interest. To be
honest, I kind of left out some details.

Like Sam Agro drawing the ape for me. He actually started out drawing an
entirely different ape and then decided that he wanted to try to get a
Urko/Ursus like gorilla with the full headgear. He thought he could have
done better but I thought he did a fantastic job. I'll try to scan in
the art soon so I can post clear versions of the drawings.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: TZer0@...
Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008 7:39 pm
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] The Revolution gang at Paradise Comicon (and Trimpe!)

>
> Uh oh! Dario has turned into Patrick.
>
>
>
>
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---- Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:

> Yeah, I was going to put a disclaimer. Certainly not my usual message,
> but I felt there was a lot to tell that would be of interest. To be
> honest, I kind of left out some details.
>
> Like Sam Agro drawing the ape for me. He actually started out drawing an
> entirely different ape and then decided that he wanted to try to get a
> Urko/Ursus like gorilla with the full headgear. He thought he could have
> done better but I thought he did a fantastic job. I'll try to scan in
> the art soon so I can post clear versions of the drawings.
>
> Dario
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: TZer0@...
> Date: Sunday, July 20, 2008 7:39 pm
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] The Revolution gang at Paradise Comicon (and Trimpe!)
>
> >
> > Uh oh! Dario has turned into Patrick.
> >
> >
> >
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Still available if anyone's interested -- I'll keep it open for one
more week before I ebay it ...

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
> In a message dated 7/16/2008 5:05:28 AM Central Daylight Time,
> sallywhitty@... writes:
>
>
> >
> > Nice â€" pic seems to comprise of glyph patterns!
> >
> >
> >
>
> *** Yeah, it has that look to it... BUT, why the hell did they use
Councilor
> Zaius from the TV series on it?!? And everyone says that FOX is the
only one
> that can't tell the apes apart...
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That sounds like a pretty good weekend you had Dario, looking forward
to any scans you can share!

Regarding the Revolution trade paperback - if you can get contact
info, do you think it would be of any benefit to bombard this guy
with e-mails from Apes fans, or is the subtle approach better? I'm
sure a lot of people could take the time to register their interest
in this book being published.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Dario" <darios@...> wrote:
>
> As I mentioned here a few months ago, after hearing that a number of
> creators involved the "Revolution on the Planet of the Apes" comics
> series were scheduled to appear at this years edition of the
Paradise
> Toronto Comicon as well as a special artist that worked on the 70's
> Marvel POTA magazines, I made plans to get down there and see all
> these guys in person. Well the con was last weekend and it was truly
> an Ape lovers paradise for myself.
>
> I took a bunch of pictures (see Photos > Paradise2008) and ended up
> with more original art as well. I'll try to recap the weekend
> chronologically so as not to forget anything or anyone.
>
> I first met up again with Max (Salgood Sam) Douglas, whom I had
> already met in Montreal a few months ago to pick up the RotPotA
page I
> bought off him. We did not chat too much about Apes as I had already
> picked his brain before. I did take the opportunity to have Max sign
> all four RotPotA issues he worked on.
>
> Next up was Steve Molnar. He was only called in later in the
> production when they needed someone who could jump in quickly. As I
> talked to him, his exuberant fondness for the original Apes movies
was
> evident. This would be something of a recurring theme from the whole
> gang all weekend long. This goes a long way in explaining the
success
> of RotPotA; these guys were all very familiar with the legacy
material
> and respectful of it. Steve enjoyed the degree of liberty that was
> provided for this project, something that he said was greater than
the
> industry norm. At the same time he pointed out that as an artist he
> feels that some degree of direction is required to ensure that what
is
> being produced is consistent.
>
> Next up was Kent Burles. I especially enjoyed meeting him as he was
> one of the artists that worked on the 1980's Malibu POTA series. I
dug
> out a few issues of those Malibus for him to sign as well the
> Revolution comics. He did not bring any POTA art but I did pick up a
> half-page zombie/ghoul drawing of his. Having looked at a lot of his
> art, I find that his horror pieces are where he really excels. What
I
> found surprising was that he considered those 'easy' to draw
compared
> to other things. After explaining to him that I had all but two of
the
> Malibu apes series, he even offered to check his personal stash when
> he got back home to see if he has the issues I need. Talk about
> customer service! I was just plain thrilled to meet him in person,
and
> here he is willing to plunder his own books for me.
>
> Next up was Gabriel Morrissette another native Montrealer and well
> known artist in the local circles. Much to my surprise he did bring
> along a number of POTA sektches that he had done in preparation for
> RotPotA and luckily I was able to buy one of these off him. What I
> found interesting from the sketches was that he had created a number
> of versions of the same scenes/pages. Always seeking perfection I
> guess. They ALL looked great to me.
>
> Of course, I had to find Ty "the guy" Templeton who
spearheaded/edited
> this whole project, provided constant feedback to us fans prior to,
> during and after publication of the series and was the (forgive me)
> "Ty that binds" the crew together. He proved elusive at first, but
> when I finally did track him down, we had a nice long chat about the
> project, the unfortunately dim prospects of seeing a trade paperback
> edition of the whole series printed, and many, many other things. As
> we chatted, Ty started drawing a cool ape head shot for me. Most of
> the discussion centered around the apparent reluctance of the
> publisher to put out a trade edition. (More on that later)
>
> (Off topic but I know that others here are also aware of the long
> awaited Hoverboy comic so I just wanted to touch on that. Originally
> advertised in issues of RotPotA, the comic should finally come out
in
> a month or so. Ty had printed preview copy right there with him
that I
> was able to peruse. The good news is that a long version of the
short
> "Documentary" that is available online has been shot and a number of
> SF oriented TV channel are inquiring about airing it. Space channel
> here in Canada, SCI-FI channel in the US, CTV, etc. So look for it
soon).
>
> Before leaving Ty, I thanked him for bending the Canadian content
only
> rules for Revolution and printing some of Neil Fosters art. As Ty
> said, he was just too good an artist to leave out. I agree.
>
> Before the end of the first day, I finally found Herb Trimpe sitting
> at a table ahead of a long line of fans waiting for him to draw
stuff
> in their sketch books. All I wanted was an autograph in one the 70's
> POTA Marvel mags as he drew stories in some of the last issues that
I
> brought along. I did not want to disturb him drawing and it was
> begining to look like I would not get a chance. But I hovered around
> for a while and was rewarded as he finished a drawing and took a
> breather at which point I was able to hand him over an issue to
sign.
> He smiled at the magazine, signed it and then nearly shocked me when
> he said that he still had a lot of that original art at home and
> wished he had brought some along. Now just seeing that would have
been
> something, but I suspect that the selling price (if it was even
> offered for sale) would have been out of my pocketbook range. But
the
> honour of meeting at least one of the original POTA artists was one
to
> savour that day.
>
> Sam Agro was another artist that was hard to track down, but I
> eventually found him sitting at the table for the new Crystal
Fractal
> comics group. He too was glad to see a fellow Apes fan and gladly
> signed my comics. I especially wanted to meet Sam as he was the one
> that draw the controversial backup story in issue 4 of Revolution.
> That is the story with Taylor's daughter. As I told Sam, it was very
> thought provoking but befiting the nature of Apes vs. Humans. We
> reminisced about our favorite Marvel apes stories (his being the
> fighting ape and human that ended up having to collaborate in order
to
> survive) and it was then that he gave me a quick rundown of a
proposed
> backstory for Revolution that was eventually nixed as it contained
> religious overtones that some felt were to strong. If a Trade ever
> does get made, this story would be a likely extra feature.
>
> Tom Fowler was next. It was Tom Fowler here in Ottawa that first
broke
> the news to me (and hence the DG) that there was going to be a new
Ape
> comic series. This was months before production had started. I have
> met with him since then to sign my comics, but I still had issue 6
for
> him to sign on this weekend. He brought along many of the POTA
pages,
> and I had a hard time to pick which one I wanted but eventually
> settled on the splash page with the gorilla sitting in the
president's
> oval office.
>
> I knew that Joe O'Brien was around the con somewhere but unlike the
> many artists, writers don't usually sit at a table for a period of
> time for fans to gather around and meet. Luckily I met up with Joe
> hovering around Tom's table and once again had a great talk with a
> true POTA fan. He talked about how he brought in many of the canon
> elements of the movies while at the same time injecting something
new,
> particularly building up Caesar as being somewhat clairvoyant and
> psychic based on the shot in Conquest where we see him silently
> guiding and building the ape army. Inevitably, the topic of the POTA
> saga being a circular timeline as opposed to a tangential one came
up
> and he expressed his views on that. While we are in the minority, I
> was glad to report that he is indeed a "Circularist".
>
> So that was the roundup to a magnificent POTA weekend. As fantastic
as
> it was, it could have been even better had Attila Adorjany been
there.
> He was originally scheduled to attend as well, but had to cancel
just
> days before.
>
> One last thing I'd like to add is that while the prospects of having
> Revolution come out as a Trade seems dim, most of the fellows were
> inclined that just maybe, the publisher could be persuaded. I'm
going
> to see if I can get the contact information and then write (real
> letter folks!) a personal note. As he already has almost all the
> material he needs (just a bit of work packaging it all together), he
> may be persuaded.
>
> Dario
>

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I think 'bombard with emails' approach is not taken seriously these days
as it's just too easy to do and hence people receiving them do not take
them as seriously as a good old fashioned letter. That's what I intend
to do. Also, just sending the same form letter is also not a good idea,
again an indication of not really being serious enough to write a
personal letter.

I intend to find Steve's mail address and send him a real letter. I
intend to point out that most people who bought the series still intend
(and hope) to buy a collected trade and that having such a series
collected in that manner will likely open up an entirely new market for
the many POTA fans who do not buy traditional comics and don't bother
trying to collect a series piecemeal like that.

From what I understand, Trades are booming and more and more people are
opting for that form of comics.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: nlmoxham <neilmoxham@...>
Date: Monday, July 21, 2008 12:29 pm
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: The Revolution gang at Paradise Comicon (and Trimpe!)

> That sounds like a pretty good weekend you had Dario, looking
> forward
> to any scans you can share!
>
> Regarding the Revolution trade paperback - if you can get contact
> info, do you think it would be of any benefit to bombard this guy
> with e-mails from Apes fans, or is the subtle approach better? I'm
> sure a lot of people could take the time to register their interest
> in this book being published.
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Dario" <darios@...> wrote:
> >
> > As I mentioned here a few months ago, after hearing that a number of
> > creators involved the "Revolution on the Planet of the Apes" comics
> > series were scheduled to appear at this years edition of the
> Paradise
> > Toronto Comicon as well as a special artist that worked on the 70's
> > Marvel POTA magazines, I made plans to get down there and see all
> > these guys in person. Well the con was last weekend and it was truly
> > an Ape lovers paradise for myself.
> >
> > I took a bunch of pictures (see Photos > Paradise2008) and ended up
> > with more original art as well. I'll try to recap the weekend
> > chronologically so as not to forget anything or anyone.
> >
> > I first met up again with Max (Salgood Sam) Douglas, whom I had
> > already met in Montreal a few months ago to pick up the RotPotA
> page I
> > bought off him. We did not chat too much about Apes as I had already
> > picked his brain before. I did take the opportunity to have Max sign
> > all four RotPotA issues he worked on.
> >
> > Next up was Steve Molnar. He was only called in later in the
> > production when they needed someone who could jump in quickly. As I
> > talked to him, his exuberant fondness for the original Apes
> movies
> was
> > evident. This would be something of a recurring theme from the whole
> > gang all weekend long. This goes a long way in explaining the
> success
> > of RotPotA; these guys were all very familiar with the legacy
> material
> > and respectful of it. Steve enjoyed the degree of liberty that was
> > provided for this project, something that he said was greater
> than
> the
> > industry norm. At the same time he pointed out that as an artist he
> > feels that some degree of direction is required to ensure that
> what
> is
> > being produced is consistent.
> >
> > Next up was Kent Burles. I especially enjoyed meeting him as he was
> > one of the artists that worked on the 1980's Malibu POTA series.
> I
> dug
> > out a few issues of those Malibus for him to sign as well the
> > Revolution comics. He did not bring any POTA art but I did pick
> up a
> > half-page zombie/ghoul drawing of his. Having looked at a lot of his
> > art, I find that his horror pieces are where he really excels.
> What
> I
> > found surprising was that he considered those 'easy' to draw
> compared
> > to other things. After explaining to him that I had all but two
> of
> the
> > Malibu apes series, he even offered to check his personal stash when
> > he got back home to see if he has the issues I need. Talk about
> > customer service! I was just plain thrilled to meet him in
> person,
> and
> > here he is willing to plunder his own books for me.
> >
> > Next up was Gabriel Morrissette another native Montrealer and well
> > known artist in the local circles. Much to my surprise he did bring
> > along a number of POTA sektches that he had done in preparation for
> > RotPotA and luckily I was able to buy one of these off him. What I
> > found interesting from the sketches was that he had created a number
> > of versions of the same scenes/pages. Always seeking perfection I
> > guess. They ALL looked great to me.
> >
> > Of course, I had to find Ty "the guy" Templeton who
> spearheaded/edited
> > this whole project, provided constant feedback to us fans prior to,
> > during and after publication of the series and was the (forgive me)
> > "Ty that binds" the crew together. He proved elusive at first, but
> > when I finally did track him down, we had a nice long chat about the
> > project, the unfortunately dim prospects of seeing a trade paperback
> > edition of the whole series printed, and many, many other things. As
> > we chatted, Ty started drawing a cool ape head shot for me. Most of
> > the discussion centered around the apparent reluctance of the
> > publisher to put out a trade edition. (More on that later)
> >
> > (Off topic but I know that others here are also aware of the long
> > awaited Hoverboy comic so I just wanted to touch on that. Originally
> > advertised in issues of RotPotA, the comic should finally come
> out
> in
> > a month or so. Ty had printed preview copy right there with him
> that I
> > was able to peruse. The good news is that a long version of the
> short
> > "Documentary" that is available online has been shot and a number of
> > SF oriented TV channel are inquiring about airing it. Space channel
> > here in Canada, SCI-FI channel in the US, CTV, etc. So look for
> it
> soon).
> >
> > Before leaving Ty, I thanked him for bending the Canadian content
> only
> > rules for Revolution and printing some of Neil Fosters art. As Ty
> > said, he was just too good an artist to leave out. I agree.
> >
> > Before the end of the first day, I finally found Herb Trimpe sitting
> > at a table ahead of a long line of fans waiting for him to draw
> stuff
> > in their sketch books. All I wanted was an autograph in one the 70's
> > POTA Marvel mags as he drew stories in some of the last issues
> that
> I
> > brought along. I did not want to disturb him drawing and it was
> > begining to look like I would not get a chance. But I hovered around
> > for a while and was rewarded as he finished a drawing and took a
> > breather at which point I was able to hand him over an issue to
> sign.
> > He smiled at the magazine, signed it and then nearly shocked me when
> > he said that he still had a lot of that original art at home and
> > wished he had brought some along. Now just seeing that would have
> been
> > something, but I suspect that the selling price (if it was even
> > offered for sale) would have been out of my pocketbook range. But
> the
> > honour of meeting at least one of the original POTA artists was
> one
> to
> > savour that day.
> >
> > Sam Agro was another artist that was hard to track down, but I
> > eventually found him sitting at the table for the new Crystal
> Fractal
> > comics group. He too was glad to see a fellow Apes fan and gladly
> > signed my comics. I especially wanted to meet Sam as he was the one
> > that draw the controversial backup story in issue 4 of Revolution.
> > That is the story with Taylor's daughter. As I told Sam, it was very
> > thought provoking but befiting the nature of Apes vs. Humans. We
> > reminisced about our favorite Marvel apes stories (his being the
> > fighting ape and human that ended up having to collaborate in
> order
> to
> > survive) and it was then that he gave me a quick rundown of a
> proposed
> > backstory for Revolution that was eventually nixed as it contained
> > religious overtones that some felt were to strong. If a Trade ever
> > does get made, this story would be a likely extra feature.
> >
> > Tom Fowler was next. It was Tom Fowler here in Ottawa that first
> broke
> > the news to me (and hence the DG) that there was going to be a
> new
> Ape
> > comic series. This was months before production had started. I have
> > met with him since then to sign my comics, but I still had issue
> 6
> for
> > him to sign on this weekend. He brought along many of the POTA
> pages,
> > and I had a hard time to pick which one I wanted but eventually
> > settled on the splash page with the gorilla sitting in the
> president's
> > oval office.
> >
> > I knew that Joe O'Brien was around the con somewhere but unlike the
> > many artists, writers don't usually sit at a table for a period of
> > time for fans to gather around and meet. Luckily I met up with Joe
> > hovering around Tom's table and once again had a great talk with a
> > true POTA fan. He talked about how he brought in many of the canon
> > elements of the movies while at the same time injecting something
> new,
> > particularly building up Caesar as being somewhat clairvoyant and
> > psychic based on the shot in Conquest where we see him silently
> > guiding and building the ape army. Inevitably, the topic of the POTA
> > saga being a circular timeline as opposed to a tangential one
> came
> up
> > and he expressed his views on that. While we are in the minority, I
> > was glad to report that he is indeed a "Circularist".
> >
> > So that was the roundup to a magnificent POTA weekend. As
> fantastic
> as
> > it was, it could have been even better had Attila Adorjany been
> there.
> > He was originally scheduled to attend as well, but had to cancel
> just
> > days before.
> >
> > One last thing I'd like to add is that while the prospects of having
> > Revolution come out as a Trade seems dim, most of the fellows were
> > inclined that just maybe, the publisher could be persuaded. I'm
> going
> > to see if I can get the contact information and then write (real
> > letter folks!) a personal note. As he already has almost all the
> > material he needs (just a bit of work packaging it all together), he
> > may be persuaded.
> >
> > Dario
> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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On Jul 20, 2008, at 6:55:31 PM, "Dario Sciola" <darios@...> wrote:

Yeah, I was going to put a disclaimer. Certainly not my usual message,
but I felt there was a lot to tell that would be of interest. To be
honest, I kind of left out some details.

Like Sam Agro drawing the ape for me.

That's cool.

Breaks the story into more

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I did not mean to give the impression that the creators thought that a
trade was probable. They have pretty much given up on it and even trying
to convince to publisher that he should do it. They have tried it in the
past and just have not been able to convince him and any more clamoring
on their part would probably not help. But they all do believe that it
would take minimal effort for the publisher to put one out IF he could
be convinced that it would be profitable. And given that, it is now
essentially up to US fans to convince him. I wish I could say that a
given amount of 'personal' messages would convince him, but I'm not
sure. At one point I pretty much gave up myself, but I figure the very
least I could do is give it a try myself and at the very least send a
message to him myself, and maybe if others did the same one last gasp
push can be made.

What would it take for him to change his mind? Who knows? It could be as
little as say 50 letters assuming he is intelligent enough to realize
that for every one of us willing to actually send a letter, there are
scores more 'silent' fans that would still buy a trade.

Yeah, I understand. As you say, it's still a long-shot, but the
longer we wait the less likely it becomes. Even though I'm not a US
buyer, I'd be happy to write a letter myself if you think it might
help. You can send me the mail address privately (if you can get it)
if you don't want to make it public. I think it would be a real shame
not to complete the revolution project, I don't expect the 'Empire'
sequel will happen (Ty - any chance of an projected plot for that
story?), but at least Revolution deserves to get it's paperback.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
>
>
> I think 'bombard with emails' approach is not taken seriously these
days
> as it's just too easy to do and hence people receiving them do not
take
> them as seriously as a good old fashioned letter. That's what I
intend
> to do. Also, just sending the same form letter is also not a good
idea,
> again an indication of not really being serious enough to write a
> personal letter.
>
> I intend to find Steve's mail address and send him a real letter. I
> intend to point out that most people who bought the series still
intend
> (and hope) to buy a collected trade and that having such a series
> collected in that manner will likely open up an entirely new market
for
> the many POTA fans who do not buy traditional comics and don't
bother
> trying to collect a series piecemeal like that.
>
> From what I understand, Trades are booming and more and more people
are
> opting for that form of comics.
>
> Dario
>

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Yeah, Trade Paperbacks are killing traditional comics. My friend
Jonathan's Comic Store is directly across the street from a huge
Barnes & Nobles book store & he constantly hears people who find a
storyline they didn't get when it first ran say "hey, let's go see if
Barnes & Nobles has a collected trade before we try & hunt down all
the issues." Leaving Johnathan out of some needed back issue sales &
the Comic store I get mine from every Wed. is ordering less & less
issues because its easier, cheaper, & more popular to order Trades
for people than to keep a large backstock of back issues.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
>
>
> I think 'bombard with emails' approach is not taken seriously these
days
> as it's just too easy to do and hence people receiving them do not
take
> them as seriously as a good old fashioned letter. That's what I
intend
> to do. Also, just sending the same form letter is also not a good
idea,
> again an indication of not really being serious enough to write a
> personal letter.
>
> I intend to find Steve's mail address and send him a real letter. I
> intend to point out that most people who bought the series still
intend
> (and hope) to buy a collected trade and that having such a series
> collected in that manner will likely open up an entirely new market
for
> the many POTA fans who do not buy traditional comics and don't
bother
> trying to collect a series piecemeal like that.
>
> From what I understand, Trades are booming and more and more people
are
> opting for that form of comics.
>
> Dario
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: nlmoxham <neilmoxham@...>
> Date: Monday, July 21, 2008 12:29 pm
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: The Revolution gang at Paradise Comicon (and
Trimpe!)
>
> > That sounds like a pretty good weekend you had Dario, looking
> > forward
> > to any scans you can share!
> >
> > Regarding the Revolution trade paperback - if you can get contact
> > info, do you think it would be of any benefit to bombard this guy
> > with e-mails from Apes fans, or is the subtle approach better?
I'm
> > sure a lot of people could take the time to register their
interest
> > in this book being published.
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Dario" <darios@> wrote:
> > >
> > > As I mentioned here a few months ago, after hearing that a
number of
> > > creators involved the "Revolution on the Planet of the Apes"
comics
> > > series were scheduled to appear at this years edition of the
> > Paradise
> > > Toronto Comicon as well as a special artist that worked on the
70's
> > > Marvel POTA magazines, I made plans to get down there and see
all
> > > these guys in person. Well the con was last weekend and it was
truly
> > > an Ape lovers paradise for myself.
> > >
> > > I took a bunch of pictures (see Photos > Paradise2008) and
ended up
> > > with more original art as well. I'll try to recap the weekend
> > > chronologically so as not to forget anything or anyone.
> > >
> > > I first met up again with Max (Salgood Sam) Douglas, whom I had
> > > already met in Montreal a few months ago to pick up the RotPotA
> > page I
> > > bought off him. We did not chat too much about Apes as I had
already
> > > picked his brain before. I did take the opportunity to have Max
sign
> > > all four RotPotA issues he worked on.
> > >
> > > Next up was Steve Molnar. He was only called in later in the
> > > production when they needed someone who could jump in quickly.
As I
> > > talked to him, his exuberant fondness for the original Apes
> > movies
> > was
> > > evident. This would be something of a recurring theme from the
whole
> > > gang all weekend long. This goes a long way in explaining the
> > success
> > > of RotPotA; these guys were all very familiar with the legacy
> > material
> > > and respectful of it. Steve enjoyed the degree of liberty that
was
> > > provided for this project, something that he said was greater
> > than
> > the
> > > industry norm. At the same time he pointed out that as an
artist he
> > > feels that some degree of direction is required to ensure that
> > what
> > is
> > > being produced is consistent.
> > >
> > > Next up was Kent Burles. I especially enjoyed meeting him as he
was
> > > one of the artists that worked on the 1980's Malibu POTA
series.
> > I
> > dug
> > > out a few issues of those Malibus for him to sign as well the
> > > Revolution comics. He did not bring any POTA art but I did pick
> > up a
> > > half-page zombie/ghoul drawing of his. Having looked at a lot
of his
> > > art, I find that his horror pieces are where he really excels.
> > What
> > I
> > > found surprising was that he considered those 'easy' to draw
> > compared
> > > to other things. After explaining to him that I had all but two
> > of
> > the
> > > Malibu apes series, he even offered to check his personal stash
when
> > > he got back home to see if he has the issues I need. Talk about
> > > customer service! I was just plain thrilled to meet him in
> > person,
> > and
> > > here he is willing to plunder his own books for me.
> > >
> > > Next up was Gabriel Morrissette another native Montrealer and
well
> > > known artist in the local circles. Much to my surprise he did
bring
> > > along a number of POTA sektches that he had done in preparation
for
> > > RotPotA and luckily I was able to buy one of these off him.
What I
> > > found interesting from the sketches was that he had created a
number
> > > of versions of the same scenes/pages. Always seeking perfection
I
> > > guess. They ALL looked great to me.
> > >
> > > Of course, I had to find Ty "the guy" Templeton who
> > spearheaded/edited
> > > this whole project, provided constant feedback to us fans
prior to,
> > > during and after publication of the series and was the (forgive
me)
> > > "Ty that binds" the crew together. He proved elusive at first,
but
> > > when I finally did track him down, we had a nice long chat
about the
> > > project, the unfortunately dim prospects of seeing a trade
paperback
> > > edition of the whole series printed, and many, many other
things. As
> > > we chatted, Ty started drawing a cool ape head shot for me.
Most of
> > > the discussion centered around the apparent reluctance of the
> > > publisher to put out a trade edition. (More on that later)
> > >
> > > (Off topic but I know that others here are also aware of the
long
> > > awaited Hoverboy comic so I just wanted to touch on that.
Originally
> > > advertised in issues of RotPotA, the comic should finally come
> > out
> > in
> > > a month or so. Ty had printed preview copy right there with him
> > that I
> > > was able to peruse. The good news is that a long version of the
> > short
> > > "Documentary" that is available online has been shot and a
number of
> > > SF oriented TV channel are inquiring about airing it. Space
channel
> > > here in Canada, SCI-FI channel in the US, CTV, etc. So look for
> > it
> > soon).
> > >
> > > Before leaving Ty, I thanked him for bending the Canadian
content
> > only
> > > rules for Revolution and printing some of Neil Fosters art. As
Ty
> > > said, he was just too good an artist to leave out. I agree.
> > >
> > > Before the end of the first day, I finally found Herb Trimpe
sitting
> > > at a table ahead of a long line of fans waiting for him to draw
> > stuff
> > > in their sketch books. All I wanted was an autograph in one the
70's
> > > POTA Marvel mags as he drew stories in some of the last issues
> > that
> > I
> > > brought along. I did not want to disturb him drawing and it was
> > > begining to look like I would not get a chance. But I hovered
around
> > > for a while and was rewarded as he finished a drawing and took a
> > > breather at which point I was able to hand him over an issue to
> > sign.
> > > He smiled at the magazine, signed it and then nearly shocked me
when
> > > he said that he still had a lot of that original art at home and
> > > wished he had brought some along. Now just seeing that would
have
> > been
> > > something, but I suspect that the selling price (if it was even
> > > offered for sale) would have been out of my pocketbook range.
But
> > the
> > > honour of meeting at least one of the original POTA artists was
> > one
> > to
> > > savour that day.
> > >
> > > Sam Agro was another artist that was hard to track down, but I
> > > eventually found him sitting at the table for the new Crystal
> > Fractal
> > > comics group. He too was glad to see a fellow Apes fan and
gladly
> > > signed my comics. I especially wanted to meet Sam as he was the
one
> > > that draw the controversial backup story in issue 4 of
Revolution.
> > > That is the story with Taylor's daughter. As I told Sam, it was
very
> > > thought provoking but befiting the nature of Apes vs. Humans. We
> > > reminisced about our favorite Marvel apes stories (his being the
> > > fighting ape and human that ended up having to collaborate in
> > order
> > to
> > > survive) and it was then that he gave me a quick rundown of a
> > proposed
> > > backstory for Revolution that was eventually nixed as it
contained
> > > religious overtones that some felt were to strong. If a Trade
ever
> > > does get made, this story would be a likely extra feature.
> > >
> > > Tom Fowler was next. It was Tom Fowler here in Ottawa that
first
> > broke
> > > the news to me (and hence the DG) that there was going to be a
> > new
> > Ape
> > > comic series. This was months before production had started. I
have
> > > met with him since then to sign my comics, but I still had
issue
> > 6
> > for
> > > him to sign on this weekend. He brought along many of the POTA
> > pages,
> > > and I had a hard time to pick which one I wanted but eventually
> > > settled on the splash page with the gorilla sitting in the
> > president's
> > > oval office.
> > >
> > > I knew that Joe O'Brien was around the con somewhere but unlike
the
> > > many artists, writers don't usually sit at a table for a period
of
> > > time for fans to gather around and meet. Luckily I met up with
Joe
> > > hovering around Tom's table and once again had a great talk
with a
> > > true POTA fan. He talked about how he brought in many of the
canon
> > > elements of the movies while at the same time injecting
something
> > new,
> > > particularly building up Caesar as being somewhat clairvoyant
and
> > > psychic based on the shot in Conquest where we see him silently
> > > guiding and building the ape army. Inevitably, the topic of the
POTA
> > > saga being a circular timeline as opposed to a tangential one
> > came
> > up
> > > and he expressed his views on that. While we are in the
minority, I
> > > was glad to report that he is indeed a "Circularist".
> > >
> > > So that was the roundup to a magnificent POTA weekend. As
> > fantastic
> > as
> > > it was, it could have been even better had Attila Adorjany been
> > there.
> > > He was originally scheduled to attend as well, but had to
cancel
> > just
> > > days before.
> > >
> > > One last thing I'd like to add is that while the prospects of
having
> > > Revolution come out as a Trade seems dim, most of the fellows
were
> > > inclined that just maybe, the publisher could be persuaded. I'm
> > going
> > > to see if I can get the contact information and then write (real
> > > letter folks!) a personal note. As he already has almost all the
> > > material he needs (just a bit of work packaging it all
together), he
> > > may be persuaded.
> > >
> > > Dario
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

>Posted by: "Michael & Sally Whitty" sallywhitty@... mike_oz2002
>Dave - have you seen this?
>http://cgi.ebay.com/1975-PLANET-OF-THE-APES-CHAD-VALLEY-PICTURE-PROJECTOR_W0
>QQitemZ110272610286QQihZ001QQcategoryZ16469QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZView
>Item

Hi, Mike,

Here are scans of all 32 Chad Valley POTA strips. Sadly...they suck. :)

http://www.rfidjournal.net/Rich/ChadValley/

Rich

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Yes I had this for a while but I wasn't very impressed with the UK fanclub even at 11 or 12. I seem to remember sending off for the membership and ticking the Galen pin-up/poster and recieving Zaius and not being able to read the fan club newsletters as they were so badly printed. Asking you to buy more merchandise etc. The wall diary is a collectable I suppose but It actually brings back not very good memories of saving up pocket money for something that was very cheap and nasty.
 
John

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To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
From: sallywhitty@...
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:27:36 +1000
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Calling John Roche.....


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In a message dated 7/23/2008 7:23:54 AM Central Daylight Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

Dave – have you seen this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1975-PLANET-OF-THE-APES-CHAD-VALLEY-PICTURE-PROJECTOR_W0QQitemZ110272610286QQihZ001QQcategoryZ16469QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

How confident are you that you could scan this and make a slideshow of it?

Michael





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.html In a message dated 7/23/2008 11:08:13 AM Central Daylight Time, handleyr@... writes:

Here are scans of all 32 Chad Valley POTA strips.  Sadly...they suck.  :)

http://www.rfidjournal.net/Rich/ChadValley/

*** Sucky or not, at least they're there... Now to get Whitty, Neil, and our good pal behind the PLANET "audio drama" to do voices, we'll be in business... ***


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I did - but had to sell it when the chips were down.

I still kinda like the pics - I mean they are on par with the Power Records hey?

---- mlccougar@... wrote:

> *** Whitty, I thought you owned this piece already? ***
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 7/23/2008 7:23:54 AM Central Daylight Time,
> sallywhitty@... writes:
>
>
> >
> > Dave – have you seen this?
> >
> > <A HREF=" http://cgi.ebay.com/1975-PLANET-OF-THE-APES-CHAD-VALLEY-PICTURE-PROJECTOR_W0QQitemZ110272610286QQihZ001QQcategoryZ16469QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem">http://cgi.ebay.com/1975-PLANET-OF-THE-APES-CHAD-VALLEY-PICTURE-PROJECTOR_W0Q
> > QitemZ110272610286QQihZ001QQcategoryZ16469QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewIt
> > em</A>
> >
> > How confident are you that you could scan this and make a slideshow of it?
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
>
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If Rich is happy I think Neil would isolate and enarge/touch up the frames (yet to ask him so maybe not too!) and if it does have an audio track as I seem to recall (or was that just the talking viewmaster?) I think Kassidy Rae might even help out as she (her hubby actually I think) did with the Power Records Slideshow on Hunter's site.

Could be fun.

Michael

---- mlccougar@... wrote:

> In a message dated 7/23/2008 11:08:13 AM Central Daylight Time,
> handleyr@... writes:
>
>
> > Here are scans of all 32 Chad Valley POTA strips. Sadly...they suck. :)
> >
> > http://www.rfidjournal.net/Rich/ChadValley/
>
> *** Sucky or not, at least they're there... Now to get Whitty, Neil, and our
> good pal behind the PLANET "audio drama" to do voices, we'll be in business...
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Good point about how the time is ticking on this as it occurred to me
that whatever licensing deal MR has must expire at some point unless
they have a clause that specifically allows them to reprint.

As far as I know the MR comics site, "Contact" info
(http://www.mrcomics.ca/contact.htm) is as good as any and I assume that
"Steve" is the recipient of any letters sent there. I was hoping to get
Steve last name and personalize it with that, but I wont have time to
look into that until this weekend at the earliest.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: nlmoxham <neilmoxham@...>
Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 6:12 am
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: The Revolution gang at Paradise Comicon (and Trimpe!)

> Yeah, I understand. As you say, it's still a long-shot, but the
> longer we wait the less likely it becomes. Even though I'm not a US
> buyer, I'd be happy to write a letter myself if you think it might
> help. You can send me the mail address privately (if you can get
> it)
> if you don't want to make it public. I think it would be a real
> shame
> not to complete the revolution project, I don't expect the 'Empire'
> sequel will happen (Ty - any chance of an projected plot for that
> story?), but at least Revolution deserves to get it's paperback.
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I think 'bombard with emails' approach is not taken seriously
> these
> days
> > as it's just too easy to do and hence people receiving them do
> not
> take
> > them as seriously as a good old fashioned letter. That's what I
> intend
> > to do. Also, just sending the same form letter is also not a good
> idea,
> > again an indication of not really being serious enough to write a
> > personal letter.
> >
> > I intend to find Steve's mail address and send him a real letter. I
> > intend to point out that most people who bought the series still
> intend
> > (and hope) to buy a collected trade and that having such a series
> > collected in that manner will likely open up an entirely new
> market
> for
> > the many POTA fans who do not buy traditional comics and don't
> bother
> > trying to collect a series piecemeal like that.
> >
> > From what I understand, Trades are booming and more and more
> people
> are
> > opting for that form of comics.
> >
> > Dario
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

It had sound? Oh, I didn't know that--I just have scans of the
strips, sorry.


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
<sallywhitty@...> wrote:

> I had this once upon a time, but I thought it was "better

looking".maybe I was just excited that it's set in the TV Show era and
is a (kinda) new story. It's great to see, regardless. It had sound
too right? Did you manage to capture the sound?

>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael & Sally Whitty"
<sallywhitty@...> wrote:

>Actually Rich some of the stories are better than the SPANISH APES

stories! :-)

LOL--sadly, it's true. But how can you go wrong with Virdon and Burke
dancing with glee about Glenn Miller?

>Would you mind if I use one of these strips to try a small project?

Anyone who wants to download them and use them for any purpose is more
than welcome to--I don't own 'em, after all.

Sure--like I said, I don't own these strips in the slightest. They're
just scans, and freely available to anyone who wants to download 'em.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
> If Rich is happy I think Neil would isolate and enarge/touch up the
frames (yet to ask him so maybe not too!) and if it does have an audio
track as I seem to recall (or was that just the talking viewmaster?) I
think Kassidy Rae might even help out as she (her hubby actually I
think) did with the Power Records Slideshow on Hunter's site.

Can you tell me who scanned them Rich because I personally hate people using my source material and screwing around with it - I'd rather get permission if you didn't do the scanning....

Michael

---- rassmguy <handleyr@...> wrote:

> Sure--like I said, I don't own these strips in the slightest. They're
> just scans, and freely available to anyone who wants to download 'em.
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
> > If Rich is happy I think Neil would isolate and enarge/touch up the
> frames (yet to ask him so maybe not too!) and if it does have an audio
> track as I seem to recall (or was that just the talking viewmaster?) I
> think Kassidy Rae might even help out as she (her hubby actually I
> think) did with the Power Records Slideshow on Hunter's site.
>
>

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Maybe if we went on Twitter, Fox would listen,

though perhaps not.  I think the only companies

that monitor Twitter are the ones who care what

their customers think about them and their products.

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
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> Dave
>
>
>
> Was it you who scanned the Chad Valley slides?
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>
>
> I ask this because Neil is looking at enlarging and restoring them and
> making them into a slideshow.
>
>
>
> If you already have something similar planned for them, we don't want to
> step on you toes. However, if it's a project up for grabs we'd love to take
> it on or just help in any way if we can.
>
>
>
> Michael
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>

Hi Michael, I think Dave might be on holiday at the moment.

Best,Graham.

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Title:		Planet of the Apes 2001premier
Date:		Sunday July 27, 2008
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The Chad Valley scans were sent to me by Mark Talbot Butler. I don't
know if it was Mark himself who was responsible for the scanning but
he did send them with the express wish that they be shared with as
much of APEDOM as possible.

With that in mind I think we'd all be delighted to see what you intend
to do with them.

Dave


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
<sallywhitty@...> wrote:

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> The lucky bugger!
>
>
>
> That's OK I'll wait till he gets back.
>
>
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> Michael
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>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On

Behalf Of

> Graham Hill
> Sent: Sunday, 27 July 2008 3:25 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: ..Calling Dave Ballard...come in Dave....
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>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> > Was it you who scanned the Chad Valley slides?
> >
> >
> >
> > I ask this because Neil is looking at enlarging and restoring them and
> > making them into a slideshow.
> >
> >
> >
> > If you already have something similar planned for them, we don't

want to

> > step on you toes. However, if it's a project up for grabs we'd love to
> take
> > it on or just help in any way if we can.
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
>
> Hi Michael, I think Dave might be on holiday at the moment.
>
> Best,Graham.
>

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael & Sally Whitty"
<sallywhitty@...> wrote:

> Dave - could you or Mark please tell me if the CV Projector had sound?

I only have the scans so I don't really know for sure but I'm pretty
sure I've never read any description of this product that mentioned sound.

Dave

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>Posted by: "Michael & Sally Whitty" sallywhitty@... mike_oz2002
>Additionally, one of the films will be restored from the original, unrated
>version. It was not revealed, however, which of the five films would get the
>star treatment.

Great news!

>Richard Ashton, director of classics for Fox, commented, "It's the first
>time [these movies] are going to be taken seriously." He later continued,
>"If you like 'Apes', you'll love this set."

Is that really what he said?? No wonder Fox never gets this sort of
thing right--they've apparently got no respect for the franchise.

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.html I would have loved a doc on the TV box set. Interviews with Coleman, Harper and Naughton and whover alse is left. Im sure they could have put something together , there's lots of on set photographs they could have used.
 
The Conquest Directors cut will probably be my excuse to get a Blueray too Lol!

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.html In a message dated 7/28/2008 5:38:36 PM Central Daylight Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

I think the Ape Head was pretty serious (specifically BATTLE) and so was releasing the TV Show and particularly RETURN.

*** I'm not so sure about that Ape Head being serious... It almost seemed like a way for them to dump off their excess copies of the DVDs of the films... They had to include RETURN as the draw card ya know ;)...

As far as the TV show being released, again, no real thought or effort went into that:

A) It was an attempt to cash in on the hype/media attention from pota2001 and it didn't cost them anything to put it out because the show already existed so it didn't cost them one red cent to produce the show itself.

B) They didn't go back and "clean up" the masters for the show or include any type of extras or commentary so again, it was next to nothing to put the TV series out on DVD.


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that would be awesome! My guess is the original with more special features?


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 28 Jul 2008 2:51 am
Subject: [PotaDG] Wonder if it's the uncut Conquest?!?!?

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In a message dated 7/29/2008 1:26:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

the teat audience….

 

Huh huh huh huh . . .

You said teat.

Sorry, I watch way too much Bevis & Butthead in the 90's

 

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Ever notice how many POTA Star were on

Mission Impossible?  In the space of about

a month I've seen Kim, Roddy, Eric Braden

and no less than 3 Bill Windom epis. They

were all over that series. Name another? 

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In a message dated 7/29/2008 3:27:20 A.M. Central Daylight Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

Oh yeah – I meant "teSt".

 

Yeah, sometimes I think the QWERTY

keyboard is set up to generate rude typos.

 

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...unless you live in a region where the Ape Head only included the cut
version of BATTLE!

I was in touch with James a while back (trying all avenues to push for
a release of the POTA artwork/paintings), and he seemed fairly
confident that the new release would have the unedited BATTLE in the
European region, based on feedback from someone-or-other. Not sure if
that affects anyone else here. But he didn't give any other clues as to
what might be included. I hope this guy in the statement isn't just
refering to that.


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
<sallywhitty@...> wrote:

>
> I think the Ape Head was pretty serious (specifically BATTLE)
>
>

.html In a message dated 7/29/2008 1:26:13 AM Central Daylight Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

I would think this lends itself to CONQUEST because that was not rated when shown to the teat audience... Then it was cut and re-edited and rated.

Boy Whitty, you hit it right on the head when you typoed "teat" audience... Because of all those people suckling at mama's teat, we were screwed out of J. Lee Thompson's original cut (as well as Tom Scott's score which they thought was "too scary" too...)


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.html In a message dated 7/29/2008 3:27:36 AM Central Daylight Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

But hey if it gets posts then…

VAGINA!



*** What does the state of VIRGINIA have to do with any of this? ***


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:)

Well - there's one response!



---- mlccougar@... wrote:

> In a message dated 7/29/2008 3:27:36 AM Central Daylight Time,
> sallywhitty@... writes:
>
>
> > But hey if it gets posts then…
> >
> > VAGINA!
> >
> >
>
> *** What does the state of VIRGINIA have to do with any of this? ***<BR><BR><BR>
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Yup - bunch of friggin babies!

---- mlccougar@... wrote:

> In a message dated 7/29/2008 1:26:13 AM Central Daylight Time,
> sallywhitty@... writes:
>
>
> > I would think this lends itself to CONQUEST because that was not rated when
> > shown to the teat audience... Then it was cut and re-edited and rated.
> >
> >
>
> Boy Whitty, you hit it right on the head when you typoed "teat" audience...
> Because of all those people suckling at mama's teat, we were screwed out of J.
> Lee Thompson's original cut (as well as Tom Scott's score which they thought
> was "too scary" too...)<BR><BR><BR>**************<BR>Get fantasy football with free live
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.html Interesting costumes. Wonder who it was?
 
JBK

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Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:24:24 -0700
Subject: Google Alert - planet of the apes costume
From: googlealerts-noreply@...
To: johnbkirtley@...


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.html It's just great to think the apes are still present in the SCiFi world. Still as iconic as ever.
 
Am still awaiting my chimp costume but have now painted the prosthetic with proper
Latex mask make-up (i think this was invented by Chambers for the apes series?)
and finally after many attempts to get the colour right I think I have done it. I will post some pictures in full face and make-up soon. And when the costume is complete I will go to an English "Con" and get the apes out there!
 
John

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To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
From: sallywhitty@...
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:13:26 +1000
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] FW: Google Alert - planet of the apes costume


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