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Group: potadg Message: 49525 From: rassmguy Date: 11/22/2008
Subject: Re: Timeline of the Planet of the Apes
Group: potadg Message: 49526 From: Dave B Date: 11/24/2008
Subject: Re: POTA Blu-Ray Update
Group: potadg Message: 49527 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/24/2008
Subject: Re: POTA Blu-Ray Update
Group: potadg Message: 49528 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 11/24/2008
Subject: Fw: Google Alert - Planet of the Apes
Group: potadg Message: 49529 From: rassmguy Date: 11/24/2008
Subject: Re: Fw: Google Alert - Planet of the Apes
Group: potadg Message: 49530 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 11/24/2008
Subject: Birthday Reminder
Group: potadg Message: 49531 From: Dave B Date: 11/25/2008
Subject: Re: POTA Blu-Ray Update
Group: potadg Message: 49532 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/25/2008
Subject: Re: POTA Blu-Ray Update
Group: potadg Message: 49533 From: Jeff Date: 11/25/2008
Subject: $100,000.00
Group: potadg Message: 49534 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 11/25/2008
Subject: Re: [pota] $100,000.00
Group: potadg Message: 49535 From: nlmoxham Date: 11/25/2008
Subject: Re: POTA Blu-Ray Update
Group: potadg Message: 49536 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 11/25/2008
Subject: Re: $100,000.00
Group: potadg Message: 49537 From: Rich Handley Date: 11/25/2008
Subject: Your next stop...
Group: potadg Message: 49538 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 11/25/2008
Subject: Re: Your next stop...
Group: potadg Message: 49539 From: knightangel314 Date: 11/25/2008
Subject: Check out this news story...monkey waiters...
Group: potadg Message: 49540 From: mlccougar Date: 11/26/2008
Subject: CONQUEST merchandise
Group: potadg Message: 49541 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/26/2008
Subject: Re: Your next stop...
Group: potadg Message: 49542 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 11/26/2008
Subject: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?
Group: potadg Message: 49543 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 11/26/2008
Subject: Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?
Group: potadg Message: 49544 From: mlccougar Date: 11/26/2008
Subject: Re: Your next stop...
Group: potadg Message: 49545 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/26/2008
Subject: Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?
Group: potadg Message: 49546 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/26/2008
Subject: Re: Your next stop...
Group: potadg Message: 49547 From: Neil Foster Date: 11/26/2008
Subject: Re: Your next stop...
Group: potadg Message: 49548 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/26/2008
Subject: Re: Your next stop...
Group: potadg Message: 49549 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 11/26/2008
Subject: Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?
Group: potadg Message: 49550 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 11/26/2008
Subject: Re: Your next stop...
Group: potadg Message: 49551 From: mlccougar Date: 11/26/2008
Subject: Re: Your next stop...
Group: potadg Message: 49552 From: mlccougar Date: 11/26/2008
Subject: Re: Your next stop...
Group: potadg Message: 49553 From: mlccougar Date: 11/27/2008
Subject: Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?
Group: potadg Message: 49554 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/27/2008
Subject: Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?
Group: potadg Message: 49555 From: mlccougar Date: 11/27/2008
Subject: Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?
Group: potadg Message: 49556 From: mlccougar Date: 11/27/2008
Subject: Re: Your next stop...
Group: potadg Message: 49557 From: rassmguy Date: 11/27/2008
Subject: Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?
Group: potadg Message: 49558 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/27/2008
Subject: Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?
Group: potadg Message: 49559 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 11/27/2008
Subject: Direct TV Listing
Group: potadg Message: 49560 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 11/27/2008
Subject: Re: Direct TV Listing
Group: potadg Message: 49561 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 11/27/2008
Subject: APES ad
Group: potadg Message: 49562 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 11/27/2008
Subject: APES ad 2
Group: potadg Message: 49563 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 11/27/2008
Subject: Re: APES ad
Group: potadg Message: 49564 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 11/27/2008
Subject: APES ad 3
Group: potadg Message: 49565 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 11/27/2008
Subject: APES ad 4
Group: potadg Message: 49566 From: nlmoxham Date: 11/27/2008
Subject: Re: Your next stop...
Group: potadg Message: 49567 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 11/27/2008
Subject: Re: Your next stop...
Group: potadg Message: 49568 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/27/2008
Subject: Re: Your next stop...
Group: potadg Message: 49569 From: Neil Foster Date: 11/27/2008
Subject: FW: [moderatorcentral] Duplicate Message Bug
Group: potadg Message: 49570 From: Neil Foster Date: 11/27/2008
Subject: Re: Your next stop...
Group: potadg Message: 49571 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/27/2008
Subject: Re: Your next stop...
Group: potadg Message: 49572 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 11/27/2008
Subject: Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?
Group: potadg Message: 49573 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 11/27/2008
Subject: Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?
Group: potadg Message: 49574 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 11/27/2008
Subject: Re: Your next stop...
Group: potadg Message: 49575 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 11/27/2008
Subject: Re: APES ad
Group: potadg Message: 49576 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 11/27/2008
Subject: chimp and tigers
Group: potadg Message: 49577 From: Jeff Date: 11/27/2008
Subject: Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?
Group: potadg Message: 49578 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: Re: APES ad
Group: potadg Message: 49579 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?
Group: potadg Message: 49580 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: Re: APES ad
Group: potadg Message: 49581 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?
Group: potadg Message: 49582 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: Re: APES ad
Group: potadg Message: 49583 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?
Group: potadg Message: 49584 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?
Group: potadg Message: 49585 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: Re: chimp and tigers
Group: potadg Message: 49586 From: Neil Foster Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: Re: APES ad
Group: potadg Message: 49587 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: Re: APES ad
Group: potadg Message: 49588 From: rassmguy Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: Re: APES ad
Group: potadg Message: 49589 From: nlmoxham Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?
Group: potadg Message: 49590 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?
Group: potadg Message: 49591 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: My hopes for a Conquest Remake.
Group: potadg Message: 49592 From: Jeff Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: apemania make ups
Group: potadg Message: 49593 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: Re: APES ad
Group: potadg Message: 49594 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: Re: My hopes for a Conquest Remake.
Group: potadg Message: 49595 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: Re: My hopes for a Conquest Remake.
Group: potadg Message: 49596 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: Re: apemania make ups
Group: potadg Message: 49597 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: Re: APES ad
Group: potadg Message: 49598 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: Re: My hopes for a Conquest Remake.
Group: potadg Message: 49599 From: rassmguy Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: Re: My hopes for a Conquest Remake.
Group: potadg Message: 49600 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 49601 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: Re: APES ad
Group: potadg Message: 49602 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 49603 From: Neil Foster Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: Re: My hopes for a Conquest Remake.
Group: potadg Message: 49604 From: rassmguy Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: Re: APES ad
Group: potadg Message: 49605 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 49606 From: atragon1@aol.com Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: Re: My hopes for a Conquest Remake.
Group: potadg Message: 49607 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: Re: My hopes for a Conquest Remake.
Group: potadg Message: 49608 From: nlmoxham Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 49609 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: Re: My hopes for a Conquest Remake.
Group: potadg Message: 49610 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: Re: My hopes for a Conquest Remake.
Group: potadg Message: 49611 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: Re: My hopes for a Conquest Remake.
Group: potadg Message: 49612 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: Re: My hopes for a Conquest Remake.
Group: potadg Message: 49613 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: Re: My hopes for a Conquest Remake.
Group: potadg Message: 49614 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: Re: My hopes for a Conquest Remake.
Group: potadg Message: 49615 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/28/2008
Subject: Re: My hopes for a Conquest Remake.
Group: potadg Message: 49616 From: Rich Handley Date: 11/29/2008
Subject: Re: Digest Number 3585
Group: potadg Message: 49617 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 11/29/2008
Subject: Blu-ray set on sale at B&N
Group: potadg Message: 49618 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 11/29/2008
Subject: Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?
Group: potadg Message: 49619 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/29/2008
Subject: Re: Blu-ray set on sale at B&N
Group: potadg Message: 49620 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 11/29/2008
Subject: Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?
Group: potadg Message: 49621 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 11/29/2008
Subject: Re: Blu-ray set on sale at B&N
Group: potadg Message: 49622 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 11/29/2008
Subject: Fox Legacy: Planet of the Apes
Group: potadg Message: 49623 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/29/2008
Subject: SHIT! - he talked about the new script!
Group: potadg Message: 49624 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/29/2008
Subject: Re: Fox Legacy: Planet of the Apes



Group: potadg Message: 49525 From: rassmguy Date: 11/22/2008
Subject: Re: Timeline of the Planet of the Apes
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael & Sally Whitty"
<sallywhitty@...> wrote:
> Thanks and congratulations Rich.

Thanks, Mike! Now I just hope I don't end up with angry hordes of
POTA fans telling me I suck, and helpfully suggesting that I try a
career sweeping out zoo cages instead of writing. (It could
happen...and I'm ready for it.)

> Don't forget when this venture has made you Rich and Famous
> (as opposed to just Rich!), you will be getting a Blu-Ray
> player and POTA Box set! :-)

Heh! Well, I think my wife has already earmarked the first chunk of
revenue to home repairs, so I may have to deal with the ol' Blu-Ray
blues for a bit longer.
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Group: potadg Message: 49526 From: Dave B Date: 11/24/2008
Subject: Re: POTA Blu-Ray Update
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For any fellow REGION B users (Europe, N.Z., Australia) I can now
confirm the the US discs ARE region encoded - You can enjoy the book
but you won't be able to play the region A discs on your region B player.

Dave




--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
> <sallywhitty@> wrote:
> >
> > No talk of an Aussie release so I'm buying the US.
>
> > Is it REGION FREE?
>
>
> I've been looking into this and asking a lot of questions and here's a
> summary of what I've discovered...
>
> REGION ENCODING for POTA on Blu Ray
>
> 1: 85% of Blu Ray titles released by FOX are region encoded (The
> percentage is much lower for other studios)
>
> 2: It has not yet been confirmed anywhere if the POTA discs are region
> encoded or region free. There are web sites that lists U.S titles that
> are known to be region free but so far POTA isn't on any of them. If
> that changes I'll let you know.
>
>
> MULTI REGION Playback on Blu Ray
>
> Also I've been looking into the availability of multi-region
> hacks/mods for Blu Ray players and it's pretty murky. Usually, if a
> hack or modification is available - or if units are being sold as
> 'multi-region' - then BEWARE - that term applies to the units ability
> to play region-encoded standard DVDs NOT Blu rays!
>
> At present I have only found two units that appear to be genuinely
> multi-region for Blu ray playback. Both are very expensive and both
> have to hacked via the remote control each time you want to switch
> regions.
>
> REGION B (Europe - New Zealand - Australia)
>
> The UK release of the anniversary set appears to be identical to the
> USA version except it doesn't appear to include the book (unconfirmed)
> or deluxe packaging (unconfirmed).
>
> To date I have been unable to find full spec listings for the UK
> release so I'm not even sure if REGION B will include all the special
> features (We often lose one or two to make room for extra language
> options)
>
> I have emailed and written to FOX Home entertainment (UK) asking for
> clarification but to date have received no reply.
>
> So - to summarise.
>
> If you live outside of the USA/Canada then you are probably REGION B.
>
> If you import your discs from the USA there is an 85% chance they will
> not play - but you WILL get the book AND deluxe packaging.
>
> If you purchase the UK set and you are REGION B the discs will play
> but it looks like you won't be getting the book or deluxe packaging
> (unconfirmed).
>
> Hope this helps some of you outside of the US/Canada make your choice.
> If I get any further clarification I'll pas sit along
>
> Dave
>
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Group: potadg Message: 49527 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/24/2008
Subject: Re: POTA Blu-Ray Update
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BUMMER!

 

Dave, is there a region B version released soon?

Michael

 


From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Dave B
Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 3:56 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: POTA Blu-Ray Update

 

For any fellow REGION B users (Europe, N.Z., Australia ) I can now
confirm the the US discs ARE region encoded - You can enjoy the book
but you won't be able to play the region A discs on your region B player.

Dave

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@ ...> wrote:

>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com,
"Michael & Sally Whitty"
> <sallywhitty@ > wrote:
> >
> > No talk of an Aussie release so I'm buying the
w:st="on"> US .
>
> > Is it REGION FREE?
>
>
> I've been looking into this and asking a lot of questions and here's a
> summary of what I've discovered.. .
>
> REGION ENCODING for POTA on Blu Ray
>
> 1: 85% of Blu Ray titles released by FOX are region encoded (The
> percentage is much lower for other studios)
>
> 2: It has not yet been confirmed anywhere if the POTA discs are region
> encoded or region free. There are web sites that lists U.S titles that
> are known to be region free but so far POTA isn't on any of them. If
> that changes I'll let you know.
>
>
> MULTI REGION Playback on Blu Ray
>
> Also I've been looking into the availability of multi-region
> hacks/mods for Blu Ray players and it's pretty murky. Usually, if a
> hack or modification is available - or if units are being sold as
> 'multi-region' - then BEWARE - that term applies to the units ability
> to play region-encoded standard DVDs NOT Blu rays!
>
> At present I have only found two units that appear to be genuinely
> multi-region for Blu ray playback. Both are very expensive and both
> have to hacked via the remote control each time you want to switch
> regions.
>
> REGION B (Europe - New Zealand
- Australia )
>
> The UK
release of the anniversary set appears to be identical to the
> USA
version except it doesn't appear to include the book (unconfirmed)
> or deluxe packaging (unconfirmed) .
>
> To date I have been unable to find full spec listings for the
w:st="on"> UK
> release so I'm not even sure if REGION B will include all the special
> features (We often lose one or two to make room for extra language
> options)
>
> I have emailed and written to FOX Home entertainment (
w:st="on"> UK ) asking for
> clarification but to date have received no reply.
>
> So - to summarise.
>
> If you live outside of the USA/Canada then you are probably REGION B.
>
> If you import your discs from the
w:st="on">USA there is an 85% chance they will
> not play - but you WILL get the book AND deluxe packaging.
>
> If you purchase the UK
set and you are REGION B the discs will play
> but it looks like you won't be getting the book or deluxe packaging
> (unconfirmed) .
>
> Hope this helps some of you outside of the US/Canada make your choice.
> If I get any further clarification I'll pas sit along
>
> Dave
>

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Group: potadg Message: 49528 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 11/24/2008
Subject: Fw: Google Alert - Planet of the Apes
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the word is spreading!


--- On Mon, 11/24/08, Google Alerts <googlealerts-noreply@...> wrote:

> From: Google Alerts <googlealerts-noreply@...>
> Subject: Google Alert - Planet of the Apes
> To: apefan23@...
> Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 2:46 PM
> Google Blogs Alert for: Planet of the Apes
>
>
> Check this: New book TIMELINE OF THE PLANT OF THE APES
>
>
> Let's face it, between six Planet of the Apes films, a
> short lived television series, a slew of comic book stories,
> and even an animated series, wading through the expansive
> world of Planet of the Apes and piecing together how it all
> ...
>
>
>
> Quiet Earth - http://www.quietearth.us/
>
> This as-it-happens Google Alert is brought to you by
> Google.
>
> Remove this alert.
>
> Create another alert.
>
> Manage your alerts.
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Group: potadg Message: 49529 From: rassmguy Date: 11/24/2008
Subject: Re: Fw: Google Alert - Planet of the Apes
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Giggity-giggity-giggity!


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> the word is spreading!
>
>
> --- On Mon, 11/24/08, Google Alerts <googlealerts-noreply@...> wrote:
>
> > From: Google Alerts <googlealerts-noreply@...>
> > Subject: Google Alert - Planet of the Apes
> > To: apefan23@...
> > Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 2:46 PM
> > Google Blogs Alert for: Planet of the Apes
> >
> >
> > Check this: New book TIMELINE OF THE PLANT OF THE APES
> >
> >
> > Let's face it, between six Planet of the Apes films, a
> > short lived television series, a slew of comic book stories,
> > and even an animated series, wading through the expansive
> > world of Planet of the Apes and piecing together how it all
> > ...
> >
> >
> >
> > Quiet Earth - http://www.quietearth.us/
> >
> > This as-it-happens Google Alert is brought to you by
> > Google.
> >
> > Remove this alert.
> >
> > Create another alert.
> >
> > Manage your alerts.
>
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Group: potadg Message: 49530 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 11/24/2008
Subject: Birthday Reminder
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Reminder from:   PotaDG Yahoo! Group
 
Title:   Ricardo Montalban's Birthday
 
Date:   Tuesday November 25, 2008
Time:   All Day
Repeats:   This event repeats every year.
Notes:   Happy Birthday Ricardo!
(Armando: Escape from the POTA (1971) & Conquest of the POTA (1972))
 
Yahoo! Greetings:   Send a Yahoo! Greeting
Yahoo! Shopping:   Browse Yahoo! Shopping Gift Guide
 
Copyright © 2008  Yahoo! Inc. All Rights Reserved |
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Group: potadg Message: 49531 From: Dave B Date: 11/25/2008
Subject: Re: POTA Blu-Ray Update
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael & Sally Whitty"

> Dave, is there a region B version released soon?

Dec 1st here in the UK. I hear Apemania are flying in to London to
help launch it. I'm not sure about other territories.

Dave
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Group: potadg Message: 49532 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/25/2008
Subject: Re: POTA Blu-Ray Update
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That’s exciting!


Are you going to London to see them?

Michael

 


From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave B
Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 4:49 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: POTA Blu-Ray Update

 

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"

> Dave, is there a region B version released soon?

Dec 1st here in the UK . I hear Apemania are flying in to London to
help launch it. I'm not sure about other territories.

Dave

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Group: potadg Message: 49533 From: Jeff Date: 11/25/2008
Subject: $100,000.00
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WHAT?  $100,000.00 for a bad wax museum head.
 
 
Jeff B
----- Original Message -----
From: m c
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 8:35 PM
Subject: [pota] There was no "third ship"

--- On Sun, 10/19/08, zasco1957 <Zasco1957@aol. com> wrote:

 
And how could our three chimp friends possibly have the know-how and the technology to raise Taylor's ship off of the bottom of that lake, somehow clean it out, repair it and launch it right in the nick of time? 
 
*** Did you not read some of the other posts regarding some of the possible ways the ship was raised? Apparently not, because there were some ideas thrown out which did not include an outlandish idea of a third ship... They may not be something everyone agrees on, but at least they stuck within the established facts of the first two films...
 
Let me ask you, how could Milo know where this alleged third ship was supposed to be? Did he talk with the crew members? Did they say "We left an operational ship lying around in what your people call 'The Forbidden Zone'... Sure, we could use it to get the hell outta here, but we've decided to just leave it around for you to use..."
 
And, you should be asking yourself the same question you asked above: Whether it's Taylor's ship (as we all know it is), or the pretend third ship, how would Milo have known when to launch it? Asking a question like this in questioning how it could be Taylor's ship is totally pointless and is no defense to your POV. ***
 
 
Besides, this third ship is much smaller than Taylor's; it even had a side hatch where Taylor's didn't.  In addition to this, there has been several stills from the deleted scenes on ESCAPE that clearly showed three seats sitting side-by-side, whereas in Taylor's, there were four...two in front and two in the back.
 
*** I am sick of  hearing about the side hatch and smaller size... You want to know why it was smaller: Because in ESCAPE, they used the nose prop from PLANET... The different interior was made up with three seats because it suited their needs for the unused opening sequence and the side hatch was put on there because it too was redressing for what they felt was needed for their opening scene...
 
When they were making that film, I'm sure they didn't sit there thinking how this ship would be analyzed years from then. At the time of ESCAPE's release, repeated viewings of the films weren't as accessible as now so the general public probably wouldn't have given any thought to it looking different, if they even noticed it at all... They knew it was supposed to be Taylor's ship because everyone in the film said it is...
 
Saying there was a third ship makes about as much sense as  someone saying "That can't really be Zira, after all, she doesn't look the same in this film as she did in PLANET... That has to be a second female..." Or someone saying "There has to be a different ape that was named Cornelius because in BENEATH not only does that ape not look like he did in PLANET, he is also taller, so that can't be the same character... " These two examples hold about as much water as your redressed prop theory hold... Visual differences aside, we all know that regardless of the film, it was still Zira, BENEATH's Cornelius was supposed to be the Cornelius from PLANET, and the ship in ESCAPE is still Taylor's...
~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~
 
Wait, I just thought of an idea: The ship in ESCAPE really is a third ship after all... It was the ship from the TV series... Councillor Zaius really didn't have that ship blown up, he had it preserved for study... And after 900 years, it managed to work it's way across the continent perfectly intact, never giving way to age or the elements... After 900 years, it ended up on the east coast where Milo got his hands on it and used it to get Zira and Cornelius back in time to give birth to their peoples new savior... It was all part of Councillor Zaius' master plan... He knew there would come a time when a three seated prop ship with a side-hatch door would come in handy... Good thing he talked to those astronauts, they knew the score...

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Group: potadg Message: 49534 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 11/25/2008
Subject: Re: [pota] $100,000.00
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> WHAT? $100,000.00 for a bad wax museum head.

Plus it's from a seller who can't compose a sentence correctly and who
has had negative feedback!

Amazing.

Hunter
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Group: potadg Message: 49535 From: nlmoxham Date: 11/25/2008
Subject: Re: POTA Blu-Ray Update
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I'll try to keep an eye out for any TV appearances.
Anyone know how strict the region encoding is for blu-ray? As I
understand it most DVD players are region free nowadays (especially
the cheaper models, I'm told).


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
<sallywhitty@...> wrote:
>
> That's exciting!
>
>
> Are you going to London to see them?
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of
> Dave B
> Sent: Tuesday, 25 November 2008 4:49 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: POTA Blu-Ray Update
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>
com, "Michael &
> Sally Whitty"
>
> > Dave, is there a region B version released soon?
>
> Dec 1st here in the UK. I hear Apemania are flying in to London to
> help launch it. I'm not sure about other territories.
>
> Dave
>
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Group: potadg Message: 49536 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 11/25/2008
Subject: Re: $100,000.00
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too bad he can't spell at all! who wants to bet this won't sell for that price??? lol


--- On Tue, 11/25/08, Jeff <skintricks@...> wrote:

> From: Jeff <skintricks@...>
> Subject: [PotaDG] $100,000.00
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008, 10:45 AM
> WHAT? $100,000.00 for a bad wax museum head.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/original-planet-of-the-apes-wax-head-real-hair-and-all_W0QQitemZ120339728679QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item120339728679&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A10|39%3A1|240%3A1318
>
> Jeff B
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: m c
> To: pota@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 8:35 PM
> Subject: [pota] There was no "third ship"
>
>
> --- On Sun, 10/19/08, zasco1957
> <Zasco1957@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> And how could our three chimp friends
> possibly have the know-how and the technology to raise
> Taylor's ship off of the bottom of that lake, somehow
> clean it out, repair it and launch it right in the nick of
> time?
>
> *** Did you not read some of the other
> posts regarding some of the possible ways the ship was
> raised? Apparently not, because there were some ideas thrown
> out which did not include an outlandish idea of a third
> ship... They may not be something everyone agrees on, but at
> least they stuck within the established facts of the first
> two films...
>
> Let me ask you, how could Milo know where
> this alleged third ship was supposed to be? Did he talk with
> the crew members? Did they say "We left an operational
> ship lying around in what your people call 'The
> Forbidden Zone'... Sure, we could use it to get the hell
> outta here, but we've decided to just leave it around
> for you to use..."
>
> And, you should be asking yourself the same
> question you asked above: Whether it's Taylor's ship
> (as we all know it is), or the pretend third ship, how would
> Milo have known when to launch it? Asking a question like
> this in questioning how it could be Taylor's ship is
> totally pointless and is no defense to your POV. ***
>
>
> Besides, this third ship is much smaller
> than Taylor's; it even had a side hatch where
> Taylor's didn't. In addition to this, there has
> been several stills from the deleted scenes on ESCAPE that
> clearly showed three seats sitting side-by-side, whereas in
> Taylor's, there were four...two in front and two in the
> back.
>
> *** I am sick of hearing about the side
> hatch and smaller size... You want to know why it was
> smaller: Because in ESCAPE, they used the nose prop from
> PLANET... The different interior was made up with three
> seats because it suited their needs for the unused opening
> sequence and the side hatch was put on there because it too
> was redressing for what they felt was needed for their
> opening scene...
>
> When they were making that film, I'm
> sure they didn't sit there thinking how this ship would
> be analyzed years from then. At the time of ESCAPE's
> release, repeated viewings of the films weren't as
> accessible as now so the general public probably
> wouldn't have given any thought to it looking different,
> if they even noticed it at all... They knew it was supposed
> to be Taylor's ship because everyone in the film said it
> is...
>
> Saying there was a third ship makes about
> as much sense as someone saying "That can't really
> be Zira, after all, she doesn't look the same in this
> film as she did in PLANET... That has to be a second
> female..." Or someone saying "There has to be a
> different ape that was named Cornelius because in BENEATH
> not only does that ape not look like he did in PLANET, he is
> also taller, so that can't be the same
> character..." These two examples hold about as much
> water as your redressed prop theory hold... Visual
> differences aside, we all know that regardless of the film,
> it was still Zira, BENEATH's Cornelius was supposed to
> be the Cornelius from PLANET, and the ship in ESCAPE is
> still Taylor's...
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Wait, I just thought of an idea: The ship
> in ESCAPE really is a third ship after all... It was the
> ship from the TV series... Councillor Zaius really
> didn't have that ship blown up, he had it preserved for
> study... And after 900 years, it managed to work it's
> way across the continent perfectly intact, never giving way
> to age or the elements... After 900 years, it ended up on
> the east coast where Milo got his hands on it and used it to
> get Zira and Cornelius back in time to give birth to their
> peoples new savior... It was all part of Councillor
> Zaius' master plan... He knew there would come a time
> when a three seated prop ship with a side-hatch door would
> come in handy... Good thing he talked to those astronauts,
> they knew the score...
>
>
>
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Group: potadg Message: 49537 From: Rich Handley Date: 11/25/2008
Subject: Your next stop...
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I've been watching the full run of The Twilight Zone of late. I have
all nine seasons on DVD, and I'm about 2/3 of the way through season
1 of the original series. So far, I've seen episodes with Claude
Akins and Roddy McDoawll, and as soon as I hear their voices, I
picture them in ape garb. It's been many years since I've watched
The Twilight Zone. Are many other POTA actors in it?
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Group: potadg Message: 49538 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 11/25/2008
Subject: Re: Your next stop...
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Most of the POTA actors did numerous guest appearances
on television series.  Mission Impossible, Night Gallery,
Bewitched, Gunsmoke, Bonanza, Barney Miller, etc . . .
 
 
In a message dated 11/25/2008 6:54:56 P.M. Central Standard Time, handleyr@... writes:
It's been many years since I've watched
The Twilight Zone. Are many other POTA actors in it?



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Group: potadg Message: 49539 From: knightangel314 Date: 11/25/2008
Subject: Check out this news story...monkey waiters...
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/24/monkey-waiters-hired-in-
j_n_146075.htmlbr>
I saw it on the news first and it was also posted at POTA, but it's
impossible not to think of CONQUEST.

Mel
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Group: potadg Message: 49540 From: mlccougar Date: 11/26/2008
Subject: CONQUEST merchandise
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Whitty,

What you say is true that "if" they'd go ahead and do that POTA:Genesis
film, there may be a flood of merchandise related to it, but it'd be
related to the new incarnation, not "our" CONQUEST...

It'd be a whole new incarnation of the APES name, just as Burton's film
was, it'd be another "reimagination" so it wouldn't be related to the
original APES... There is a big difference...


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
<sallywhitty@...> wrote:

If FOX green light a CONQUEST BASED SEQUEL we may just see a flood of
comics and other Conquest based merchandise.
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Group: potadg Message: 49541 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/26/2008
Subject: Re: Your next stop...
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I can’t be specific but I do recall lots of the actors, some of the music and many of the scenarios in it!

 


From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Handley
Sent: Wednesday, 26 November 2008 10:55 AM
To: potadg@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Your next stop...

 

I've been watching the full run of The Twilight Zone of late. I have
all nine seasons on DVD, and I'm about 2/3 of the way through season
1 of the original series. So far, I've seen episodes with Claude
Akins and Roddy McDoawll, and as soon as I hear their voices, I
picture them in ape garb. It's been many years since I've watched
The Twilight Zone. Are many other POTA actors in it?

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Group: potadg Message: 49542 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 11/26/2008
Subject: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?
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Will anyone be able to record straight to DVD any of the
CHANNEL OF THE APES broadcasts
they will be showing new documentaries
plus all the original 1981 tv movies with the aged Galen
 
it would be nice if we could all have access to these shows
 
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Group: potadg Message: 49543 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 11/26/2008
Subject: Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?
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> plus all the original 1981 tv movies with the aged Galen

I'd be really surprised if the aged Galen is shown....
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Group: potadg Message: 49544 From: mlccougar Date: 11/26/2008
Subject: Re: Your next stop...
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Without checking IMDB, can anyone tell me three APES television
series apes that appeared on The Monkees?


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, TZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> Most of the POTA actors did numerous guest appearances
> on television series. Mission Impossible, Night Gallery,
> Bewitched, Gunsmoke, Bonanza, Barney Miller, etc . . .
>
>
>
> In a message dated 11/25/2008 6:54:56 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> handleyr@... writes:
>
> It's been many years since I've watched
> The Twilight Zone. Are many other POTA actors in it?
>
>
> **************One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social
networks,
> and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com
> today!
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>
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Group: potadg Message: 49545 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/26/2008
Subject: Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?
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Terry – does it mention the AGED GALEN intros?  Or is it just those horrendously spliced TV Show Movies?

 


From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Terry Hoknes
Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2008 4:12 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com; pota@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?

 

Will anyone be able to record straight to DVD any of the

CHANNEL OF THE APES broadcasts

they will be showing new documentaries

plus all the original 1981 tv movies with the aged Galen

 

it would be nice if we could all have access to these shows

 

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Group: potadg Message: 49546 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/26/2008
Subject: Re: Your next stop...
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Booth, Roddy and Kim?

 


From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar
Sent: Wednesday, 26 November 2008 2:17 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Your next stop...

 

Without checking IMDB, can anyone tell me three APES television
series apes that appeared on The Monkees?

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, TZer0@... wrote:

>
>
> Most of the POTA actors did numerous guest appearances
> on television series. Mission
Impossible, Night Gallery,
> Bewitched, Gunsmoke, Bonanza, Barney Miller, etc . . .
>
>
>
> In a message dated 11/25/2008 6:54:56 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> handleyr@... writes:
>
> It's been many years since I've watched
> The Twilight Zone. Are many other POTA actors in it?
>
>
> ************ **One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social
networks,
> and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com
> today!
(http://pr.atwola. com/promoclk/ 100000075x121296 2939x1200825291/ aol?
redir=http://www.aol. com/?optin= new-dp
> %26icid=aolcom40van ity%26ncid= emlcntaolcom0000 0001)
>

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Group: potadg Message: 49547 From: Neil Foster Date: 11/26/2008
Subject: Re: Your next stop...
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I can't name any but I can show you some of them. ;-)
 
 
Neil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 2:17 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Your next stop...

Without checking IMDB, can anyone tell me three APES television
series apes that appeared on The Monkees?

.

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Group: potadg Message: 49548 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/26/2008
Subject: Re: Your next stop...
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Oh yeah – I think that covers them.

 

What – no response to me saying KIM was in the TV Show?

 


From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2008 6:58 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Your next stop...

 

I can't name any but I can show you some of them. ;-)

 

 

Neil

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of mlccougar
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 2:17 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Your next stop...

Without checking IMDB, can anyone tell me three APES television
series apes that appeared on The Monkees?

.



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Group: potadg Message: 49549 From: Terry Hoknes Date: 11/26/2008
Subject: Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?
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it just gives the titles so i really dont know if Galen is included or not
 
 
 
 
 

Terry – does it mention the AGED GALEN intros?  Or is it just those horrendously spliced TV Show Movies?


From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Terry Hoknes
Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2008 4:12 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com; pota@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?

Will anyone be able to record straight to DVD any of the

CHANNEL OF THE APES broadcasts

they will be showing new documentaries

plus all the original 1981 tv movies with the aged Galen

it would be nice if we could all have access to these shows

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Group: potadg Message: 49550 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 11/26/2008
Subject: Re: Your next stop...
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who was that last pic? Jeff Corey?


--- On Wed, 11/26/08, Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...> wrote:

> From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Your next stop...
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, November 26, 2008, 4:12 PM
> Oh yeah - I think that covers them.
>
>
>
> What - no response to me saying KIM was in the TV Show?
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Neil Foster
> Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2008 6:58 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Your next stop...
>
>
>
> I can't name any but I can show you some of them. ;-)
>
>
>
> http://movies.
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Apes%20Actors/>
> groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Apes%20Actors/
>
>
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> mlccougar
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 2:17 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Your next stop...
>
> Without checking IMDB, can anyone tell me three APES
> television
> series apes that appeared on The Monkees?
>
>
>
> .
>
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/msgId
> =49544/stime=1227730205/nc1=5008816/nc2=3848627/nc3=3858794>
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Group: potadg Message: 49551 From: mlccougar Date: 11/26/2008
Subject: Re: Your next stop...
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*** You were right about Booth Colman, but not Roddy and Kim... The
three I was referencing are:

Booth Colman (Councilor Zaius), John Hoyt (Prefect Barlow), and
Geoffrey Deuel (Anto).

And in the "trivia" for the episode that Booth is in, it mentions
that he was on the APES television series and that John Hoyt also
appeared (twice) on APES... No mention of Geoffrey's being on APES
though... ***






--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
<sallywhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Booth, Roddy and Kim?
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of
> mlccougar
> Sent: Wednesday, 26 November 2008 2:17 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Your next stop...
>
>
>
> Without checking IMDB, can anyone tell me three APES television
> series apes that appeared on The Monkees?
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Group: potadg Message: 49552 From: mlccougar Date: 11/26/2008
Subject: Re: Your next stop...
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*** You were right about Booth Colman, but not Roddy and Kim... The
three I was referencing are:

Booth Colman (Councilor Zaius), John Hoyt (Prefect Barlow), and
Geoffrey Deuel (Anto).

And in the "trivia" for the episode that Booth is in, it mentions
that he was on the APES television series and that John Hoyt also
appeared (twice) on APES... No mention of Geoffrey's being on APES
though... ***






--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
<sallywhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Booth, Roddy and Kim?
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of
> mlccougar
> Sent: Wednesday, 26 November 2008 2:17 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Your next stop...
>
>
>
> Without checking IMDB, can anyone tell me three APES television
> series apes that appeared on The Monkees?
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Group: potadg Message: 49553 From: mlccougar Date: 11/27/2008
Subject: Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?
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*** They aren't going to show the "Aged Galen" clips... I'll bet if
you even asked anyone at FOX about these, they'd give you a blank
stare... Since they were done special for ABC's afternoon airings of
the TV films, they may not even be owned by FOX but by the network
that wanted them made (though of course FOX does own Galen/APES).
That's all a guess though... Anyway, it wouldn't make any sense for
them to show the clips because the way they're laid out, they're
meant as daily bumpers, not just generic introduction clips... It'd
make no sense to show a clip of Galen saying "I'll see you tomorrow"
when the next film would be shown after a commercial break...

And even if they do have the Galen clips in their possession, they
won't be showing them for this reason: They didn't have time for
APEMANIA to remake them! ***



--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Terry Hoknes" <hoknescards@...> wrote:
>
> it just gives the titles so i really dont know if Galen is included
or not
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Terry - does it mention the AGED GALEN intros? Or is it just
those horrendously spliced TV Show Movies?
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
----------
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On
Behalf Of Terry Hoknes
> Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2008 4:12 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com; pota@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?
>
>
>
> Will anyone be able to record straight to DVD any of the
>
> CHANNEL OF THE APES broadcasts
>
> they will be showing new documentaries
>
> plus all the original 1981 tv movies with the aged Galen
>
>
>
> it would be nice if we could all have access to these shows
>
>
>
> http://www.foxmoviechannel.com/event/
>
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Group: potadg Message: 49554 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/27/2008
Subject: Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?
.html
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Hoo boy!

Don’t hold back Mike!

Jeez we are a difficult bunch (great pun!) to please aren’t we?

We complain about the lack of imagination from FOX, so they commission APE MANIA (owned by a HUGE fan) to do some stills for a new release, using ORIGINAL POTA MAKEUPS and posing brand new poses, and IT’S STILL NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!!!

 

Frankly, I think Fox was also seeing how much APEMANIA charges to do costumes and make-up because that new script has hit and they could get it right this time!!!

 

I can feel a new movie, and I just hope they get this one right!

Michael

 


From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar
Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2008 6:43 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?

 

*** They aren't going to show the "Aged Galen" clips... I'll bet if
you even asked anyone at FOX about these, they'd give you a blank
stare... Since they were done special for ABC's afternoon airings of
the TV films, they may not even be owned by FOX but by the network
that wanted them made (though of course FOX does own Galen/APES).
That's all a guess though... Anyway, it wouldn't make any sense for
them to show the clips because the way they're laid out, they're
meant as daily bumpers, not just generic introduction clips... It'd
make no sense to show a clip of Galen saying "I'll see you tomorrow"
when the next film would be shown after a commercial break...

And even if they do have the Galen clips in their possession, they
won't be showing them for this reason: They didn't have time for
APEMANIA to remake them! ***

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Terry Hoknes" <hoknescards@ ...> wrote:

>
> it just gives the titles so i really dont know if Galen is included
or not
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Terry - does it mention the AGED GALEN intros? Or is it just
those horrendously spliced TV Show Movies?
>
>
>
>
> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -
----------
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
[PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On
Behalf Of Terry Hoknes
> Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2008 4:12 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com;
pota@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?
>
>
>
> Will anyone be able to record straight to DVD any of the
>
> CHANNEL OF THE APES broadcasts
>
> they will be showing new documentaries
>
> plus all the original 1981 tv movies with the aged Galen
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>
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> it would be nice if we could all have access to these shows
>
>
>
> http://www.foxmovie channel.com/ event/
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Group: potadg Message: 49555 From: mlccougar Date: 11/27/2008
Subject: Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael & Sally Whitty
<sallywhitty@...> wrote:

Jeez we are a difficult bunch (great pun!) to please aren't we?

We complain about the lack of imagination from FOX, so they commission
APEMANIA (owned by a HUGE fan) to do some stills for a new release,
using ORIGINAL POTA MAKEUPS and posing brand new poses, and IT'S STILL
NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!!!

*** I never asked for "new" images for a classic film... I wanted them
to use/incorporate ORIGINAL photos/stills/posters (some foreign APES
posters would have worked) etc. for the new releases... Making the DVD
cases look like video-game packaging is bullshit when there is so much
original material at their disposal... FOX should be concentrating
their "imagination" in trying to get a decent movie together, not in
designing a DVD case to appeal to the gamer community... People have
got to know these aren't "new" films, they're classics and their
packages should reflect that... But, I've also heard that FOX is
selling the original 1951 "The Day The Earth Stood Still" with "new"
looking packaging so maybe that's where all their imagination went:
Trying to make vintage films appear like they were made today... I'm
not saying the work APEMANIA did was all bad, I do like the cover for
BATTLE compared to the others, but the new shots/designs are
too "slick"... Now if there were a new comic line or something like
that, then the style they used on the DVDs/cases would be more in line
with what it'd be: a new product with a new image. (And by "new image",
I mean new as in newly created pictures, etc. NOT "new image" as in the
bullshit they tried with pota2001 and their "giving it a new image" to
appeal to "today's audience".)

Anyway, I've said it before and I'll say it again: I am for what
APEMANIA does as far as their restorations of original outfits and
their reproduction outfits are also cool... I also like that they try
to keep the original style of appliance applications alive, however,
their make-up is poor... You can say "What's the difference, it's all
appliances like the films used", while that may be technically true,
the make-up is NOT the same... Their makeups are highly lacking, and
the material they use looks too much like sponge... Their best ones are
their gorillas and even they're lacking compared to the originals, and
I do not like their chimps/orangs at all... ***

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Frankly, I think Fox was also seeing how much APEMANIA charges to do
costumes and make-up because that new script has hit and they could get
it right this time!!!

*** You're kidding, right? 99% chance that APEMANIA just used their
regular APEMANIA troupe outfits for the covers/DVD shots (ie: They
didn't charge FOX anything for outfits, they were using their regular
performance gear which they then wore on the soccer mom show, etc.) If
FOX would choose to use APEMANIA for any film project, I'd hope they'd
tell them to improve their makeup applications, because as they sit
now, they're NOT film-worthy...

As far as APEMANIA doing costumes: Chances are if we'd get another
film, they'd probably not use the original style of ape clothes in the
film, so going to them to see about costumes would be pointless...

Plus, great looking as they are, their repro outfits are quite pricey
because they don't seem to have the facilities to mass produce them so
it wouldn't even be cost-effective for FOX to use them... Chances are
they could get them done at a lower price elsewhere. (Again, I'm not
saying their outfits aren't "worth" what they ask, I just can't see
them being able to mass produce what a film would need at an affordable
price and in a timely manner.)

And here's why APEMANIA appeared on the DVD packaging (and I'm sure I
could get an email from the source I heard this from sent here to
confirm this): The Marketing guy at FOX who had the "bright idea" of
placing them on the Rachel Ray show is also a friend of the guy who
portrays one of the APEMANIA apes (Zaius I think it is). The only
reason they used them on the DVDs and packaging is because the FOX
Marketing/PR guy is all buddy-buddy with one of their performers... It
had nothing to do with APEMANIA's credentials but the fact that one of
their guys knows someone at FOX. ***
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Group: potadg Message: 49556 From: mlccougar Date: 11/27/2008
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:

> who was that last pic? Jeff Corey?

*** Not Jeff Corey... That guy is John Hoyt (aka Prefect Barlow)***
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--- On Wed, 11/26/08, Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...> wrote:

> > Oh yeah - I think that covers them.

*** Neil's post did cover two of them, but not all three... I didn't
forget about Severn Darden's appearance, but I only asked about
people who appeared in the APES television show and The Monkees show.
Close though... ***
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--- On Behalf Of Neil Foster Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2008 6:58 AM
> > I can't name any but I can show you some of them. ;-)
http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Apes%20Actors/

*** I didn't even know there were any screen grabs of those guys on
here... Who did those?

If anyone wants to do a screen grab of Geoffery, he's in the
episode "Monkees In Manhattan" (he is the groom character). ***
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Group: potadg Message: 49557 From: rassmguy Date: 11/27/2008
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> ***And even if they do have the Galen clips in their
> possession, they won't be showing them for this reason:
> They didn't have time for APEMANIA to remake them! ***

LOL! Okay, that cracked me up.
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Group: potadg Message: 49558 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/27/2008
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Stop encouraging him!  J

 


From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rassmguy
Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2008 11:04 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?

 

> ***And even if they do have the Galen clips in their

> possession, they won't be showing them for this reason:
> They didn't have time for APEMANIA to remake them! ***

LOL! Okay, that cracked me up.

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Group: potadg Message: 49559 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 11/27/2008
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Here's what I see on my Direct TV On Screen Listing:
 
"Evolution of the Apes"
Thursday the 27th - 3:00 PM, 5:15 PM
Friday the 28th - 5:15 PM
Saturday the 29th - 3:30 PM
Sunday the 30th - 11:30 AM, 8:00 PM
 
"Fox Legacy of the Apes"
Thursday the 27th - 8:00PM
Friday the 28th - 8:00 PM, 10:30 PM
Saturday the 29th - 1:00AM
 
"Look Behind the Planet of the Apes"
Friday the 28th - 7:30PM
 
"Impact of the Planet of the Apes"
Thursday the 27th - 7:30 PM
Sunday the 30th - 7:30 PM
 
The Fox Movie Channel is also showing POTA Promo shorts (found on POTA DVDs) and Movie Trailers inbetween the presentations of the films themselves. Along with Apemania skits shown here at Fox Movie Channel's official site. http://www.foxmoviechannel.com/channeloftheapes/
 
It's all good. I'm enjoying it a lot.
Al

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Group: potadg Message: 49560 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 11/27/2008
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*** Will you (or anyone else out there for that matter) be taping or DVDing these? ***
 
 
 
In a message dated 11/27/08 8:41:17 AM Central Standard Time, pota1968@... writes:
Here's what I see on my Direct TV On Screen Listing:
 
"Evolution of the Apes"
Thursday the 27th - 3:00 PM, 5:15 PM
Friday the 28th - 5:15 PM
Saturday the 29th - 3:30 PM
Sunday the 30th - 11:30 AM, 8:00 PM
 
"Fox Legacy of the Apes"
Thursday the 27th - 8:00PM
Friday the 28th - 8:00 PM, 10:30 PM
Saturday the 29th - 1:00AM
 
"Look Behind the Planet of the Apes"
Friday the 28th - 7:30PM
 
"Impact of the Planet of the Apes"
Thursday the 27th - 7:30 PM
Sunday the 30th - 7:30 PM
 
The Fox Movie Channel is also showing POTA Promo shorts (found on POTA DVDs) and Movie Trailers inbetween the presentations of the films themselves. Along with Apemania skits shown here at Fox Movie Channel's official site. http://www.foxmoviechannel.com/channeloftheapes/
 
It's all good. I'm enjoying it a lot.
 



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Group: potadg Message: 49561 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 11/27/2008
Subject: APES ad
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Group: potadg Message: 49562 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 11/27/2008
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Group: potadg Message: 49563 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 11/27/2008
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*** For the record, I did not send this post that many times... I don't know why it showed up repeatedly (at least on my acct. it did...) ***



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Group: potadg Message: 49564 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 11/27/2008
Subject: APES ad 3
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Group: potadg Message: 49565 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 11/27/2008
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Group: potadg Message: 49566 From: nlmoxham Date: 11/27/2008
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I did them! But I missed Geoffery, I think I have most episodes on
tape, I'll see if I can get a good shot. While I think of it, I also
have I think two of the TV movies on tape, I must have a look see if
the opening/closing credits are any different.


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "mlccougar" <mlccougar@...> wrote:
>
>*** I didn't even know there were any screen grabs of those guys on
> here... Who did those?
>
> If anyone wants to do a screen grab of Geoffery, he's in the
> episode "Monkees In Manhattan" (he is the groom character). ***
>
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Group: potadg Message: 49567 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 11/27/2008
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In a message dated 11/27/08 10:52:06 AM Central Standard Time, neilmoxham@... writes:
While I think of it, I also have I think two of the TV movies on tape, I must have a look see if
the opening/closing credits are any different
*** The APES "TV series movies" credits aren't all that different than on the regular show, but they do list the names and authors of the individual episodes that were put together... I know they also say "1980 released for syndication" or something like that.. ***



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Group: potadg Message: 49568 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/27/2008
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Mike – just sent you a private email and it was returned to me.

 

I think you are having trouble with your internet provider!

 

We didn’t get any repeating emails either!

Good luck

 

Michael

 


From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Friday, 28 November 2008 2:57 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Your next stop...

 

In a message dated 11/27/08 10:52:06 AM Central Standard Time, neilmoxham@gmail. com writes:

While I think of it, I also have I think two of the TV movies on tape, I must have a look see if
the opening/closing credits are any different

*** The APES "TV series movies" credits aren't all that different than on the regular show, but they do list the names and authors of the individual episodes that were put together... I know they also say "1980 released for syndication" or something like that.. ***




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Group: potadg Message: 49569 From: Neil Foster Date: 11/27/2008
Subject: FW: [moderatorcentral] Duplicate Message Bug
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-----Original Message-----
From: moderatorcentral@yahoogroups.com [moderatorcentral@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of gordon_groups_pm
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 5:41 AM
To: moderatorcentral@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [moderatorcentral] Duplicate Message Bug

We are aware of the duplicate message bug that is affecting some
groups and are investigating the problem.

If your group is experiencing this issue, please contact Customer Care
and supply the following information:

- Whether the messages are appearing multiple times in the archive or
only in email.
- Whether you are the only person experiencing the issue or whether
most people in the group are getting the duplicates
- Whether it is happening to all messages sent to the group or just
specific ones (either way, provide the message numbers in the archive
of the duplicating messages).
- Provide the full headers of 2 (or more) copies of the duplicate
messages.

The headers, in particular, are vital for us to be able to effectively
troubleshoot. This site
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provides useful information on how to get headers for many different
email clients.

And here is the URL for contacting Customer Care:
http://help. yahoo.com/ l/us/yahoo/ groups/original/ general.html"

Thank you for your help in troubleshooting this bug and our apologies
for the duplicates to all affected groups.

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Group: potadg Message: 49570 From: Neil Foster Date: 11/27/2008
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It's a Yahoo! bug, refer to the email I forwarded.
 
Neil
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 6:40 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Your next stop...

Mike – just sent you a private email and it was returned to me.

I think you are having trouble with your internet provider!

We didn’t get any repeating emails either!

.

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Group: potadg Message: 49571 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/27/2008
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Is that anything like a HUMbug?!!?!  J

 


From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Friday, 28 November 2008 7:00 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Your next stop...

 

It's a Yahoo! bug, refer to the email I forwarded.

 

Neil

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 6:40 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Your next stop...

Mike – just sent you a private email and it was returned to me.

I think you are having trouble with your internet provider!

We didn’t get any repeating emails either!

.



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Group: potadg Message: 49572 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 11/27/2008
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Yes, but so is the makeup for the TV series.
The makeup in general went downhill from the
first film to the last, with Roddy's jaw hanging off
his face in Battle and the TV show.  I cringe every
time I see Apemania's Zira's neck show.  Details!
 
 
In a message dated 11/27/2008 3:54:01 A.M. Central Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:
I am for what
APEMANIA does as far as their restorations of original outfits and
their reproduction outfits are also cool... I also like that they try
to keep the original style of appliance applications alive, however,
their make-up is poor...



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Group: potadg Message: 49573 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 11/27/2008
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*** True, the makeup on the TV series isn't always up to snuff, but the principles came across pretty good most of the time (and yes, I even think Galen did... What I don't like about Galen is the way he has too much hair: His ears are virtually unnoticeable... )
 
Some of the guest apes were very well done, like Aboro... Even Jaqueline Scott's appearance improved from "The Good Seeds" to "The Surgeon"...
 
All I can say in the TV series defense is that they were under the gun to get everything moving, so maybe some of the make-ups failed due to not having enough time to do it as precisely as the artists would have liked... APEMANIA on the other hand really has no pressures to start shooting and being bugged with lines like "We're losing time here, we gotta get moving..." I don't have any idea of why they're not where they should be make-upwise...
 
 
In a message dated 11/27/08 5:30:30 PM Central Standard Time, TZer0@... writes:
Yes, but so is the makeup for the TV series.
The makeup in general went downhill from the
first film to the last, with Roddy's jaw hanging off
his face in Battle and the TV show.  I cringe every
time I see Apemania's Zira's neck show.  Details!
 
 
In a message dated 11/27/2008 3:54:01 A.M. Central Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:
I am for what
APEMANIA does as far as their restorations of original outfits and
their reproduction outfits are also cool... I also like that they try
to keep the original style of appliance applications alive, however,
their make-up is poor...
 



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Group: potadg Message: 49574 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 11/27/2008
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In a message dated 11/27/08 2:40:59 PM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:
Mike – just sent you a private email and it was returned to me.
If you mean the one in reply to the multiposting one (that was sent to me and Neil,) I got that one... Or did you try another one?



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Group: potadg Message: 49575 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 11/27/2008
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like I have always said...sure wish I had bought all this when it was so damn cheap!!!!
cool ad..thanks!


--- On Thu, 11/27/08, mlccougar@... <mlccougar@... > wrote:

> From: mlccougar@... <mlccougar@...>
> Subject: [PotaDG] APES ad
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, November 27, 2008, 11:16 AM
> (http://www.megomuseum.com/print/monkeyaround.jpg)
> **************Life should be easier. So should your
> homepage. Try the NEW
> AOL.com.
> (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000002)
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Group: potadg Message: 49576 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 11/27/2008
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Attachments :
    Has everyone seen this story about the chimp Anjana helping to take care of white tiger cubs? Just google "Anjana chimp"...!
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    Group: potadg Message: 49577 From: Jeff Date: 11/27/2008
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    Apemania has help keep POTA alive.  Their sculpting is good, make up is good, costumes are good.  If you look at the makes ups in the films and TV.  After John Chambers stopped doing the initial sculpting and applications, the  quality went down.  If you look at the coloration, the apes had multiple colors for realism.  By the time of Conquest, Roddy's make up was nearly all one color and looked like plastic.  Apemania's quality is up to par with Beneath.  Also Zira never had a beard.  Her collar went up high, but her neck was always hairless.
     
    Jeff B
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: TZer0@...
    Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2008 3:30 PM
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?

     
    Yes, but so is the makeup for the TV series.
    The makeup in general went downhill from the
    first film to the last, with Roddy's jaw hanging off
    his face in Battle and the TV show.  I cringe every
    time I see Apemania's Zira's neck show.  Details!
     
     
    In a message dated 11/27/2008 3:54:01 A.M. Central Standard Time, mlccougar@aol. com writes:
    I am for what
    APEMANIA does as far as their restorations of original outfits and
    their reproduction outfits are also cool... I also like that they try
    to keep the original style of appliance applications alive, however,
    their make-up is poor...



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    Group: potadg Message: 49578 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 11/28/2008
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    > like I have always said...sure wish I had bought all this when it
    > was so damn cheap!!!!
    > cool ad..thanks!

    I was 10 when they came out, and those prices might as well have been
    $100, because I didn't have the money. Seems ridiculous now, but it
    was true.

    I had a few items (a couple of Megos and puzzles), but they were all
    Christmas gifts.

    Hunter
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    Group: potadg Message: 49579 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 11/28/2008
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    I know.
    So what's with this chick?
    If the costume is the same is she a giraffe, or what?
     
     
     
    In a message dated 11/27/2008 11:52:01 P.M. Central Standard Time, skintricks@... writes:
    Also Zira never had a beard.  Her collar went up high, but her neck was always hairless.



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    Group: potadg Message: 49580 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/28/2008
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    I was saying the same thing to Neil over the weekend.

     

    The POTA Stallion was some ridiculous amount and the Playsets – they were never on the shelves ion Canberra but I recall seeing them in Sydney and being afraid to even ASK my parents if I could have one!

     

    Michael

     


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hunter Goatley
    Sent: Friday, 28 November 2008 5:17 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] APES ad

     

    > like I have always said...sure wish I had bought all this when it

    > was so damn cheap!!!!
    > cool ad..thanks!

    I was 10 when they came out, and those prices might as well have been
    $100, because I didn't have the money. Seems ridiculous now, but it
    was true.

    I had a few items (a couple of Megos and puzzles), but they were all
    Christmas gifts.

    Hunter

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    Group: potadg Message: 49581 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 11/28/2008
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    In a message dated 11/27/08 11:51:42 PM Central Standard Time, skintricks@... writes:
    Apemania's quality is up to par with Beneath. 
    *** More along the lines of BATTLE... BENEATH was still flying pretty high (except of cours the horrible pull-overs!) And they still look like they're made out of leftovers from Sponge Bob... ***



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    Group: potadg Message: 49582 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 11/28/2008
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    While what "apefan" says is true, that it would have been great to be able to pick the stuff up when it was cheap (i.e. original sale/"retail price" rather than the price some of it goes for now on the secondary market), I'm in the same boat as Hunter, and apparently you too Whitty: The stuff might as well have been $100 if the money isn't/wasn't there...
     
    Here's a cool calculator that shows prices adjusted for inflation... The prices of most of the APES items in the ad(s) is pretty comparable to what an equivalent item would be today...
     
     
     
    In a message dated 11/28/08 4:30:40 AM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

    I was saying the same thing to Neil over the weekend.

     

    The POTA Stallion was some ridiculous amount and the Playsets – they were never on the shelves ion Canberra but I recall seeing them in Sydney and being afraid to even ASK my parents if I could have one!

     

    Michael

     


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hunter Goatley
    Sent: Friday, 28 November 2008 5:17 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] APES ad

     

    > like I have always said...sure wish I had bought all this when it
    > was so damn cheap!!!!
    > cool ad..thanks!

    I was 10 when they came out, and those prices might as well have been
    $100, because I didn't have the money. Seems ridiculous now, but it
    was true.

    I had a few items (a couple of Megos and puzzles), but they were all
    Christmas gifts.

     



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    Group: potadg Message: 49583 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 11/28/2008
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    In a message dated 11/28/08 4:35:56 AM Central Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:
    And they still look like they're made out of leftovers from Sponge Bob... ***
    *** I mean the APEMANIA appliances look too spongy, not the BENEATH appliances. ***



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    Group: potadg Message: 49584 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/28/2008
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    I like them better than the ones in the Tim Burton movie - but I guess you like the Burton ones better!   :)

    I'm just saying I think APEMANIA would be great to do the makeups for the new movie (if they do make it and I am betting it's on the way).


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
    Sent: Friday, 28 November 2008 8:46 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?

    In a message dated 11/28/08 4:35:56 AM Central Standard Time, mlccougar@aol. com writes:
    And they still look like they're made out of leftovers from Sponge Bob... ***
    *** I mean the APEMANIA appliances look too spongy, not the BENEATH appliances. ***



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    Group: potadg Message: 49585 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/28/2008
    Subject: Re: chimp and tigers
    .html
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    Yeah - remarkable stuff and cute as photos.


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
    Sent: Friday, 28 November 2008 1:42 PM
    To: POTA; POTA DG
    Subject: [PotaDG] chimp and tigers

    Has everyone seen this story about the chimp Anjana helping to take care of white tiger cubs? Just google "Anjana chimp"...!

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    Group: potadg Message: 49586 From: Neil Foster Date: 11/28/2008
    Subject: Re: APES ad
    .html
    .html Message
    Much the same here. I had the UK comics, some of the TV show cards and most of the movie and TV paperbacks. Plus I got the '76 UK annual and the Palitoy Galen for Christmas but that was about it.
     
    Neil
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hunter Goatley
    Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 5:17 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] APES ad

    I had a few items (a couple of Megos and puzzles), but they were all
    Christmas gifts.

    .

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    Group: potadg Message: 49587 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/28/2008
    Subject: Re: APES ad
    .html
    .html
    I never even SAW half the stuff on eBay now!
     
    That's why I decided on POTA toys to collect - because I thought other than the Megos there was not much out there.  Silly, silly man!


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
    Sent: Friday, 28 November 2008 10:22 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] APES ad

    Much the same here. I had the UK comics, some of the TV show cards and most of the movie and TV paperbacks. Plus I got the '76 UK annual and the Palitoy Galen for Christmas but that was about it.
     
    Neil
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Hunter Goatley
    Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 5:17 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] APES ad

    I had a few items (a couple of Megos and puzzles), but they were all
    Christmas gifts.

    .

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    Group: potadg Message: 49588 From: rassmguy Date: 11/28/2008
    Subject: Re: APES ad
    .html
    When I was a kid, I had all of the figures, the trashcan, the coloring
    books and a bunch of other items, all of which ceased to be during my
    teen years, when a fire at my mother's house turned them into so much ash.



    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
    >
    > Much the same here. I had the UK comics, some of the TV show cards and
    > most of the movie and TV paperbacks. Plus I got the '76 UK annual and
    > the Palitoy Galen for Christmas but that was about it.
    >
    > Neil
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf
    > Of Hunter Goatley
    > Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 5:17 PM
    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] APES ad
    >
    >
    >
    > I had a few items (a couple of Megos and puzzles), but they were all
    > Christmas gifts.
    >
    > .
    >
    > <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
    > sgId=49578/stime=1227856707/nc1=5008815/nc2=3848627/nc3=3858795>
    >
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    Group: potadg Message: 49589 From: nlmoxham Date: 11/28/2008
    Subject: Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?
    .html
    'If' they were to make a new movie, and if they wanted to set it in
    the classic pota universe, they'd pretty much have to recreate the
    classic make ups, for continuity. So who else besides Apemania know
    how to still do these make ups professionally? That's not a
    rhetorical question, I genuinely wonder how they would go about
    recreating them after 34 years.

    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
    <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
    >
    > I like them better than the ones in the Tim Burton movie - but I
    guess you
    > like the Burton ones better! :)
    >
    > I'm just saying I think APEMANIA would be great to do the makeups
    for the
    > new movie (if they do make it and I am betting it's on the way).
    >
    > _____
    >
    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
    Behalf Of
    > mlccougar@...
    > Sent: Friday, 28 November 2008 8:46 PM
    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > In a message dated 11/28/08 4:35:56 AM Central Standard Time,
    > mlccougar@... writes:
    >
    > And they still look like they're made out of leftovers from Sponge
    Bob...
    > ***
    >
    > *** I mean the APEMANIA appliances look too spongy, not the BENEATH
    > appliances. ***
    >
    >
    >
    > _____
    >
    > Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try
    > <http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-
    dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000
    > 002> the NEW AOL.com.
    >
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    Group: potadg Message: 49590 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 11/28/2008
    Subject: Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?
    .html
    In a message dated 11/28/08 5:51:34 AM Central Standard Time,
    sallywhitty@... writes:
    I like them better than the ones in the Tim Burton movie - but I guess you
    like the Burton ones better! :)

    I'm just saying I think APEMANIA would be great to do the makeups for the
    new movie (if they do make it and I am betting it's on the way).


    *** I never said that what APEMANIA does in the actual application isn't
    right in terms of trying to capture the original APES appearance, what I'm
    saying is that whatever they are using on their appliances visibly looks like
    actual sponge material to me and I don't like that... Maybe they could change
    their recipe to make it look closer to what was originally used or something...
    It's close but something just isn't right...

    I do think that if they did try it in a film, it'd need to be tweaked though
    because the bulk of their performing troupe looks like the thrown together
    "extras" I wish I could do screen grabs so I could point out some of the
    examples that I mean... I'd just hope for something a little better for a major
    film...***

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    In a message dated 11/28/08 8:04:40 AM Central Standard Time,
    _neilmoxham@..._ (mailto:neilmoxham@...) writes:

    'If' they were to make a new movie, and if they wanted to set it in the
    classic pota universe, they'd pretty much have to recreate the classic make ups,
    for continuity.

    *** Agreed & I always thought that too... What they did in pota2001 was
    right though because it was not an extension of what came before. It was not
    connected to the original films in anyway so the new makeups were good in
    distinguishing it as being it's own entity... And, actually anything that wouldn't
    be connected to the original films can go ahead and use something Burtonesque.
    I'm not against a new look for a new take on APES (but no Wizard of Oz
    refugees this time around!), but if it's going to be tied to the originals then
    yes, it needs to carry on that look... ***


    So who else besides Apemania know how to still do these make ups
    professionally? That's not a
    rhetorical question, I genuinely wonder how they would go about recreating
    them after 34 years.

    *** I'm sure that many of the Hollywood artists could pull it off...
    APEMANIA isn't the only ones that know how to pour molds and apply makeups. Yeah,
    they're good at what they do, but there are others that could pull it off...
    Maybe they could get someone like Fred Blau (Roddy's TV makeup artist) to do a
    tutorial to some of the people inexperienced with APES style makeups... Or
    get Bill Blake to oversee the project... ***



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    Group: potadg Message: 49591 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 11/28/2008
    Subject: My hopes for a Conquest Remake.
    .html
    .html
    My only hopes for a Conquest Remake would be...
     
    1. A good script (obviously) but with more depth in charater and story like the originals. Not another chase and scream remake.
     
    2. Makeup: Stick more to John Chambers' makeup design than Rick Baker's. Baker's was okay but nowhere near Chamber's design. And when the apes speak, let us hear what they have to say. And not try to hear beyond the banana in their mouths as was the case with Rick's design.
     
    3. The apes themselves: Make them as Roddy McDowall made them to be. Half Man/Half Ape and not the crazy wild monkeys that Burton gave us.  
    One of the biggest turn offs to Peter Jacksen's King Kong was that instead of making King Kong, he made to 40 foot silverback gorilla.
    And for that I'd prefer to go to the zoo. :o)
     
    Al
     
    P.S. After the holidays, I'll start work on the a POTA countdown site. So I'll have two sites. potacollective and movie countdown site.


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    Group: potadg Message: 49592 From: Jeff Date: 11/28/2008
    Subject: apemania make ups
    .html
    .html
    In defense of Apemania, again.  John Chambers used lacquer based paints for the base colors with rubber mask grease for finishing.  Apemania uses PAX.  The foam latex is basically the same.  The film stock and filters gave the make ups a different appearance in the original.  As foe Baker's/Burton's apes---they are much more accurate/realistic.  Nearly ALL make up effects artist have done a POTA appliance in their time.  Most people can duplicate the look.  The "modern" lighting, camera, filters, film stock all add or change the look of the make ups in film now.
     
    Jeff B 
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 7:27 AM
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?

    In a message dated 11/28/08 5:51:34 AM Central Standard Time,
    sallywhitty@ bigpond.com writes:
    I like them better than the ones in the Tim Burton movie - but I guess you
    like the Burton ones better! :)

    I'm just saying I think APEMANIA would be great to do the makeups for the
    new movie (if they do make it and I am betting it's on the way).


    *** I never said that what APEMANIA does in the actual application isn't
    right in terms of trying to capture the original APES appearance, what I'm
    saying is that whatever they are using on their appliances visibly looks like
    actual sponge material to me and I don't like that... Maybe they could change
    their recipe to make it look closer to what was originally used or something...
    It's close but something just isn't right...

    I do think that if they did try it in a film, it'd need to be tweaked though
    because the bulk of their performing troupe looks like the thrown together
    "extras" I wish I could do screen grabs so I could point out some of the
    examples that I mean... I'd just hope for something a little better for a major
    film...***

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~

    In a message dated 11/28/08 8:04:40 AM Central Standard Time,
    _neilmoxham@ gmail.com_ (mailto:neilmoxham@gmail. com) writes:

    'If' they were to make a new movie, and if they wanted to set it in the
    classic pota universe, they'd pretty much have to recreate the classic make ups,
    for continuity.

    *** Agreed & I always thought that too... What they did in pota2001 was
    right though because it was not an extension of what came before. It was not
    connected to the original films in anyway so the new makeups were good in
    distinguishing it as being it's own entity... And, actually anything that wouldn't
    be connected to the original films can go ahead and use something Burtonesque.
    I'm not against a new look for a new take on APES (but no Wizard of Oz
    refugees this time around!), but if it's going to be tied to the originals then
    yes, it needs to carry on that look... ***


    So who else besides Apemania know how to still do these make ups
    professionally? That's not a
    rhetorical question, I genuinely wonder how they would go about recreating
    them after 34 years.

    *** I'm sure that many of the Hollywood artists could pull it off...
    APEMANIA isn't the only ones that know how to pour molds and apply makeups. Yeah,
    they're good at what they do, but there are others that could pull it off...
    Maybe they could get someone like Fred Blau (Roddy's TV makeup artist) to do a
    tutorial to some of the people inexperienced with APES style makeups... Or
    get Bill Blake to oversee the project... ***



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    Group: potadg Message: 49593 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 11/28/2008
    Subject: Re: APES ad
    .html
    The most money I spent at the time was fifty bucks for the Don Post mask...saved up for it!!


    --- On Fri, 11/28/08, Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...> wrote:

    > From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
    > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] APES ad
    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 5:30 AM
    > I was saying the same thing to Neil over the weekend.
    >
    >
    >
    > The POTA Stallion was some ridiculous amount and the
    > Playsets - they were
    > never on the shelves ion Canberra but I recall seeing them
    > in Sydney and
    > being afraid to even ASK my parents if I could have one!
    >
    >
    >
    > Michael
    >
    >
    >
    > _____
    >
    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
    > Hunter Goatley
    > Sent: Friday, 28 November 2008 5:17 PM
    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] APES ad
    >
    >
    >
    > > like I have always said...sure wish I had bought all
    > this when it
    > > was so damn cheap!!!!
    > > cool ad..thanks!
    >
    > I was 10 when they came out, and those prices might as well
    > have been
    > $100, because I didn't have the money. Seems ridiculous
    > now, but it
    > was true.
    >
    > I had a few items (a couple of Megos and puzzles), but they
    > were all
    > Christmas gifts.
    >
    > Hunter
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    Group: potadg Message: 49594 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/28/2008
    Subject: Re: My hopes for a Conquest Remake.
    .html
    .html
    :)
     
    I'll add - a teist at the end to show Z&C have not arrived yet and that it's a PREQUEL to PLANET, not a sequel.
     
    Kinda like the new comic Neil and I are doing (BEGINS) that's been heavily revised and will be ready soon for the group to see.
     
    Michael


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Ruiz
    Sent: Saturday, 29 November 2008 2:28 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] My hopes for a Conquest Remake.

    My only hopes for a Conquest Remake would be...
     
    1. A good script (obviously) but with more depth in charater and story like the originals. Not another chase and scream remake.
     
    2. Makeup: Stick more to John Chambers' makeup design than Rick Baker's. Baker's was okay but nowhere near Chamber's design. And when the apes speak, let us hear what they have to say. And not try to hear beyond the banana in their mouths as was the case with Rick's design.
     
    3. The apes themselves: Make them as Roddy McDowall made them to be. Half Man/Half Ape and not the crazy wild monkeys that Burton gave us.  
    One of the biggest turn offs to Peter Jacksen's King Kong was that instead of making King Kong, he made to 40 foot silverback gorilla.
    And for that I'd prefer to go to the zoo. :o)
     
    Al
     
    P.S. After the holidays, I'll start work on the a POTA countdown site. So I'll have two sites. potacollective and movie countdown site.


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    Group: potadg Message: 49595 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/28/2008
    Subject: Re: My hopes for a Conquest Remake.
    .html
    .html
    Oh - and well put Al!  These are critical for my hopes of the remake.
     
    Oh, and Kevin Spacey....   :)


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Ruiz
    Sent: Saturday, 29 November 2008 2:28 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] My hopes for a Conquest Remake.

    My only hopes for a Conquest Remake would be...
     
    1. A good script (obviously) but with more depth in charater and story like the originals. Not another chase and scream remake.
     
    2. Makeup: Stick more to John Chambers' makeup design than Rick Baker's. Baker's was okay but nowhere near Chamber's design. And when the apes speak, let us hear what they have to say. And not try to hear beyond the banana in their mouths as was the case with Rick's design.
     
    3. The apes themselves: Make them as Roddy McDowall made them to be. Half Man/Half Ape and not the crazy wild monkeys that Burton gave us.  
    One of the biggest turn offs to Peter Jacksen's King Kong was that instead of making King Kong, he made to 40 foot silverback gorilla.
    And for that I'd prefer to go to the zoo. :o)
     
    Al
     
    P.S. After the holidays, I'll start work on the a POTA countdown site. So I'll have two sites. potacollective and movie countdown site.


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    Group: potadg Message: 49596 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/28/2008
    Subject: Re: apemania make ups
    .html
    .html
    And the stuff Apemania uses might not kill the actors.
     
    Talk to Bill Blake about his face one day.....
     
    Michael


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
    Sent: Saturday, 29 November 2008 3:39 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] apemania make ups

    In defense of Apemania, again.  John Chambers used lacquer based paints for the base colors with rubber mask grease for finishing.  Apemania uses PAX.  The foam latex is basically the same.  The film stock and filters gave the make ups a different appearance in the original.  As foe Baker's/Burton' s apes---they are much more accurate/realistic.  Nearly ALL make up effects artist have done a POTA appliance in their time.  Most people can duplicate the look.  The "modern" lighting, camera, filters, film stock all add or change the look of the make ups in film now.
     
    Jeff B 
    ----- Original Message -----
    Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 7:27 AM
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?

    In a message dated 11/28/08 5:51:34 AM Central Standard Time,
    sallywhitty@ bigpond.com writes:
    I like them better than the ones in the Tim Burton movie - but I guess you
    like the Burton ones better! :)

    I'm just saying I think APEMANIA would be great to do the makeups for the
    new movie (if they do make it and I am betting it's on the way).


    *** I never said that what APEMANIA does in the actual application isn't
    right in terms of trying to capture the original APES appearance, what I'm
    saying is that whatever they are using on their appliances visibly looks like
    actual sponge material to me and I don't like that... Maybe they could change
    their recipe to make it look closer to what was originally used or something...
    It's close but something just isn't right...

    I do think that if they did try it in a film, it'd need to be tweaked though
    because the bulk of their performing troupe looks like the thrown together
    "extras" I wish I could do screen grabs so I could point out some of the
    examples that I mean... I'd just hope for something a little better for a major
    film...***

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ ~~~

    In a message dated 11/28/08 8:04:40 AM Central Standard Time,
    _neilmoxham@ gmail.com_ (mailto:neilmoxham@gmail. com) writes:

    'If' they were to make a new movie, and if they wanted to set it in the
    classic pota universe, they'd pretty much have to recreate the classic make ups,
    for continuity.

    *** Agreed & I always thought that too... What they did in pota2001 was
    right though because it was not an extension of what came before. It was not
    connected to the original films in anyway so the new makeups were good in
    distinguishing it as being it's own entity... And, actually anything that wouldn't
    be connected to the original films can go ahead and use something Burtonesque.
    I'm not against a new look for a new take on APES (but no Wizard of Oz
    refugees this time around!), but if it's going to be tied to the originals then
    yes, it needs to carry on that look... ***


    So who else besides Apemania know how to still do these make ups
    professionally? That's not a
    rhetorical question, I genuinely wonder how they would go about recreating
    them after 34 years.

    *** I'm sure that many of the Hollywood artists could pull it off...
    APEMANIA isn't the only ones that know how to pour molds and apply makeups. Yeah,
    they're good at what they do, but there are others that could pull it off...
    Maybe they could get someone like Fred Blau (Roddy's TV makeup artist) to do a
    tutorial to some of the people inexperienced with APES style makeups... Or
    get Bill Blake to oversee the project... ***



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    Group: potadg Message: 49597 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/28/2008
    Subject: Re: APES ad
    .html
    .html
    YEAH!
     
    I recall it was about $80 by the time we got them in AUS!
    That was just RIDICULOUS!!!
     
    You musta been loaded like Handley!  :)
     
    Michael


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
    Sent: Saturday, 29 November 2008 6:02 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] APES ad

    The most money I spent at the time was fifty bucks for the Don Post mask...saved up for it!!

    --- On Fri, 11/28/08, Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@ bigpond.com> wrote:

    > From: Michael & Sally Whitty <
    href="mailto:sallywhitty%40bigpond.com">sallywhitty@ bigpond.com>
    >
    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] APES ad
    > To:
    href="mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com">PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    >
    Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 5:30 AM
    > I was saying the same thing to
    Neil over the weekend.
    >
    >
    >
    > The POTA Stallion was
    some ridiculous amount and the
    > Playsets - they were
    > never on the
    shelves ion Canberra but I recall seeing them
    > in Sydney and
    >
    being afraid to even ASK my parents if I could have one!
    >
    >
    >
    > Michael
    >
    >
    >
    > _____
    >
    > From:
    href="mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com">PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    >
    [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
    > Hunter Goatley
    > Sent: Friday, 28 November 2008 5:17
    PM
    > To:
    href="mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com">PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    >
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] APES ad
    >
    >
    >
    > > like I
    have always said...sure wish I had bought all
    > this when it
    > >
    was so damn cheap!!!!
    > > cool ad..thanks!
    >
    > I was 10
    when they came out, and those prices might as well
    > have been
    >
    $100, because I didn't have the money. Seems ridiculous
    > now, but
    it
    > was true.
    >
    > I had a few items (a couple of Megos and
    puzzles), but they
    > were all
    > Christmas gifts.
    >
    >
    Hunter

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    Group: potadg Message: 49598 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/28/2008
    Subject: Re: My hopes for a Conquest Remake.
    .html
    .html
    Umm - that a TWIST (corrected below)


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
    Sent: Saturday, 29 November 2008 6:13 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] My hopes for a Conquest Remake.

    :)
     
    I'll add - a  tW ist at the end to show Z&C have not arrived yet and that it's a PREQUEL to PLANET, not a sequel.
     
    Kinda like the new comic Neil and I are doing (BEGINS) that's been heavily revised and will be ready soon for the group to see.
     
    Michael


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Alex Ruiz
    Sent: Saturday, 29 November 2008 2:28 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    Subject: [PotaDG] My hopes for a Conquest Remake.

    My only hopes for a Conquest Remake would be...
     
    1. A good script (obviously) but with more depth in charater and story like the originals. Not another chase and scream remake.
     
    2. Makeup: Stick more to John Chambers' makeup design than Rick Baker's. Baker's was okay but nowhere near Chamber's design. And when the apes speak, let us hear what they have to say. And not try to hear beyond the banana in their mouths as was the case with Rick's design.
     
    3. The apes themselves: Make them as Roddy McDowall made them to be. Half Man/Half Ape and not the crazy wild monkeys that Burton gave us.  
    One of the biggest turn offs to Peter Jacksen's King Kong was that instead of making King Kong, he made to 40 foot silverback gorilla.
    And for that I'd prefer to go to the zoo. :o)
     
    Al
     
    P.S. After the holidays, I'll start work on the a POTA countdown site. So I'll have two sites. potacollective and movie countdown site.


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    Group: potadg Message: 49599 From: rassmguy Date: 11/28/2008
    Subject: Re: My hopes for a Conquest Remake.
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    I look forward to reading it.

    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
    <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
    > Kinda like the new comic Neil and I are doing (BEGINS) that's been
    heavily revised and will be ready soon for the group to see.
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    Group: potadg Message: 49600 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 11/28/2008
    Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
    .html
    Hello,

    This email message is a notification to let you know that
    a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
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    File : /Apes Actors/Episode 30 - 0002.jpg
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    Description : Geoffrey Deuel

    You can access this file at the URL:
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    Group: potadg Message: 49601 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 11/28/2008
    Subject: Re: APES ad
    .html
    maybe my parents made up a deficit...I don't remember! hell, I barely remember last week!


    --- On Fri, 11/28/08, Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...> wrote:

    > From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
    > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] APES ad
    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 3:23 PM
    > YEAH!
    >
    > I recall it was about $80 by the time we got them in AUS!
    >
    > That was just RIDICULOUS!!!
    >
    > You musta been loaded like Handley! :)
    >
    > Michael
    >
    > _____
    >
    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
    > Tim "apefan"
    > Sent: Saturday, 29 November 2008 6:02 AM
    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] APES ad
    >
    >
    >
    > The most money I spent at the time was fifty bucks for the
    > Don Post
    > mask...saved up for it!!
    >
    > --- On Fri, 11/28/08, Michael & Sally Whitty
    > <sallywhitty@
    > <mailto:sallywhitty%40bigpond.com> bigpond.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    > > From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@
    > <mailto:sallywhitty%40bigpond.com> bigpond.com>
    > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] APES ad
    > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.
    > <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
    > > Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 5:30 AM
    > > I was saying the same thing to Neil over the weekend.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > The POTA Stallion was some ridiculous amount and the
    > > Playsets - they were
    > > never on the shelves ion Canberra but I recall seeing
    > them
    > > in Sydney and
    > > being afraid to even ASK my parents if I could have
    > one!
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Michael
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > _____
    > >
    > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.
    > <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
    > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.
    > <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com] On
    > Behalf Of
    > > Hunter Goatley
    > > Sent: Friday, 28 November 2008 5:17 PM
    > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.
    > <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
    > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] APES ad
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > > like I have always said...sure wish I had bought
    > all
    > > this when it
    > > > was so damn cheap!!!!
    > > > cool ad..thanks!
    > >
    > > I was 10 when they came out, and those prices might as
    > well
    > > have been
    > > $100, because I didn't have the money. Seems
    > ridiculous
    > > now, but it
    > > was true.
    > >
    > > I had a few items (a couple of Megos and puzzles), but
    > they
    > > were all
    > > Christmas gifts.
    > >
    > > Hunter
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    Group: potadg Message: 49602 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 11/28/2008
    Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
    .html
    wasn't he the twin brother of Pete Deuel of "alias Smith and Jones"?


    --- On Fri, 11/28/08, PotaDG@yahoogroups.com < PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <PotaDG@yahoogroups.com>
    > Subject: [PotaDG] New file uploaded to PotaDG
    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 4:21 PM
    > Hello,
    >
    > This email message is a notification to let you know that
    > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
    > group.
    >
    > File : /Apes Actors/Episode 30 - 0002.jpg
    > Uploaded by : nlmoxham <neilmoxham@...>
    > Description : Geoffrey Deuel
    >
    > You can access this file at the URL:
    > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Apes%20Actors/Episode%2030%20-%200002.jpg
    >
    >
    > To learn more about file sharing for your group, please
    > visit:
    > http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.htmliles
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > nlmoxham <neilmoxham@...>
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    Group: potadg Message: 49603 From: Neil Foster Date: 11/28/2008
    Subject: Re: My hopes for a Conquest Remake.
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    Well my hope is that they don't actually remake Conquest but that they use a new version of it as a launching point for more movies. Retelling the story of how the Apes take over makes much more sense as a 'first' movie. I would have thought that if the original intent was to make a sequence of movies then to start with something like Conquest would make sense.
     
    Neil
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Ruiz
    Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 2:28 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] My hopes for a Conquest Remake.

    My only hopes for a Conquest Remake would be...
    .

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    Group: potadg Message: 49604 From: rassmguy Date: 11/28/2008
    Subject: Re: APES ad
    .html
    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael & Sally Whitty"
    <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
    > You musta been loaded like Handley! :)

    Ha! For their sake, I sure hope not.
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    Group: potadg Message: 49605 From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: 11/28/2008
    Subject: New file uploaded to PotaDG
    .html
    Hello,

    This email message is a notification to let you know that
    a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
    group.

    File : /Apes Actors/Episode 30 - 0003.jpg
    Uploaded by : nlmoxham <neilmoxham@...>
    Description : Geoffrey Deuel

    You can access this file at the URL:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Apes%20Actors/Episode%2030%20-%200003.jpg

    To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
    http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.htmliles

    Regards,

    nlmoxham <neilmoxham@...>
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    Group: potadg Message: 49606 From: atragon1@aol.com Date: 11/28/2008
    Subject: Re: My hopes for a Conquest Remake.
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    I really enjoyed Ty's REVOLUTION series. You know what I would really like to see..something that takes place between ESCAPE and CONQUEST....
     
    I've always thought that the apes in CONQUEST got too smart, too fast. And that Caesar definitely had some kind of telepathic control over apes of lesser intelligence (kind of like Obi-Wan using the Force on the Stormtroopers).
     
    What could have happened to the bodies of Cornelius, Zira and Milo after they were killed? I conjecture that, after a standard autopsy (hey, maybe someone would unearth some "ape autopsy" footage!) the bodies were put on ice. Some years later, when Ape servitude proved to be a widespread and profitable business, the genes of the apeonauts were used by Ape Management to breed more intelligent apes -- easier to train. This, of course, was their undoing and accelerated the take over of the apes.
     
    Thus, sharing the same genetic code, gave Caesar a telepathic influence over the simple-minded apes (this influence faded in BATTLE, since the apes had become more intelligent over time.
     
    I'm sure Patrick must have thought this trough already...
     
    Any thoughts?
    Bill
     
    .
     
    In a message dated 11/28/2008 4:10:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, handleyr@... writes:
    I look forward to reading it.

    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
    <sallywhitty@ ...> wrote:
    > Kinda like the new comic Neil and I are doing (BEGINS) that's been
    heavily revised and will be ready soon for the group to see.
     



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    Group: potadg Message: 49607 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 11/28/2008
    Subject: Re: My hopes for a Conquest Remake.
    .html
    That's what I'm thinking....the only similarity to the old films will be perhaps an ape named "Caesar". I can't imagine Fox going back to the old storyline....


    --- On Fri, 11/28/08, Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote:

    > From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@...>
    > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] My hopes for a Conquest Remake.
    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 4:35 PM
    > Well my hope is that they don't actually remake Conquest
    > but that they
    > use a new version of it as a launching point for more
    > movies. Retelling
    > the story of how the Apes take over makes much more sense
    > as a 'first'
    > movie. I would have thought that if the original intent was
    > to make a
    > sequence of movies then to start with something like
    > Conquest would make
    > sense.
    >
    > Neil
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
    > Of Alex Ruiz
    > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 2:28 AM
    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [PotaDG] My hopes for a Conquest Remake.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > My only hopes for a Conquest Remake would be...
    > .
    >
    > <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
    > sgId=49591/stime=1227889662/nc1=5008815/nc2=3848614/nc3=3858797>
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    Group: potadg Message: 49608 From: nlmoxham Date: 11/28/2008
    Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
    .html
    And here's the opening & closing credits to 'Back To POTA'
    and 'Farewell To POTA'. On the first one they squash all the end
    credits together, on the second one they give credits for each
    episode, and they removed the episode title, director, guest stars,
    etc, that had been shown after the opening credits. Not very
    interesting really, but some might be curious. To me, the opening
    theme sounds slightly different - more drums and piano I think?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFtwU5xu1fg

    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, PotaDG@yahoogroups.com wrote:
    >
    >
    > Hello,
    >
    > This email message is a notification to let you know that
    > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
    > group.
    >
    > File : /Apes Actors/Episode 30 - 0003.jpg
    > Uploaded by : nlmoxham <neilmoxham@...>
    > Description : Geoffrey Deuel
    >
    > You can access this file at the URL:
    > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Apes%20Actors/Episode%
    2030%20-%200003.jpg
    >
    > To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
    >
    http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.htm
    lfiles
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > nlmoxham <neilmoxham@...>
    >
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    Group: potadg Message: 49609 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 11/28/2008
    Subject: Re: My hopes for a Conquest Remake.
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    .html
    I completely agree. And I believe that's exactly what it's going to be.
    Not a remake but a beginning to a new saga by using the concept of Conquest. 
     
    Al


    From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@...>
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 4:35:32 PM
    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] My hopes for a Conquest Remake.

    Well my hope is that they don't actually remake Conquest but that they use a new version of it as a launching point for more movies. Retelling the story of how the Apes take over makes much more sense as a 'first' movie. I would have thought that if the original intent was to make a sequence of movies then to start with something like Conquest would make sense.
     
    Neil
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Alex Ruiz
    Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 2:28 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    Subject: [PotaDG] My hopes for a Conquest Remake.

    My only hopes for a Conquest Remake would be...
    .


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    Group: potadg Message: 49610 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/28/2008
    Subject: Re: My hopes for a Conquest Remake.
    .html
    .html
    Bill - there's definitely a very interesting story in there!
     
    Neil and I look at some options in our new comic "POTA Begins" - very unoriginal in title but if it can be anything like BATMAN BEGINS was to BATMAN for POTA, them who cares about having an unoriginal title?  :)

    In BEGINS we take a recent news story about Stalin commissioning a "Half ape, half man" army that is genetically manipulated to need less food and be expendible.  Our scenario has this experimentation being succesful (while it is of course covered up to the general public) and....well, you'll see.
     
    This also explain why the apes look different (as John Chambers makes them look) to normal apes, but in our story we do have some remaining "normal" looking apes.
     
    Our story is specifically place on the "linear" timeline around 1000 years post Taylor's launch.  We don't mention Brent and frankly we will probably go in a direction where we would possibly even entirely IGNORE the sequels.
     
    But the PAST of this story is not Caesar, Zira and Cornelius.  IF Milo finds a ship, then he will create a BUTTERFLY EFFECT and our story may be replaced with Caesar and Virgil etc....
     
    Michael


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of atragon1@...
    Sent: Saturday, 29 November 2008 8:31 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: My hopes for a Conquest Remake.

    I really enjoyed Ty's REVOLUTION series. You know what I would really like to see..something that takes place between ESCAPE and CONQUEST....
     
    I've always thought that the apes in CONQUEST got too smart, too fast. And that Caesar definitely had some kind of telepathic control over apes of lesser intelligence (kind of like Obi-Wan using the Force on the Stormtroopers) .
     
    What could have happened to the bodies of Cornelius, Zira and Milo after they were killed? I conjecture that, after a standard autopsy (hey, maybe someone would unearth some "ape autopsy" footage!) the bodies were put on ice. Some years later, when Ape servitude proved to be a widespread and profitable business, the genes of the apeonauts were used by Ape Management to breed more intelligent apes -- easier to train. This, of course, was their undoing and accelerated the take over of the apes.
     
    Thus, sharing the same genetic code, gave Caesar a telepathic influence over the simple-minded apes (this influence faded in BATTLE, since the apes had become more intelligent over time.
     
    I'm sure Patrick must have thought this trough already...
     
    Any thoughts?
    Bill
     
    .
     
    In a message dated 11/28/2008 4:10:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, handleyr@optonline. net writes:
    I look forward to reading it.

    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
    <sallywhitty@ ...> wrote:
    > Kinda like the new comic Neil and I are doing (BEGINS) that's been
    heavily revised and will be ready soon for the group to see.
     



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    Group: potadg Message: 49611 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/28/2008
    Subject: Re: My hopes for a Conquest Remake.
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    That's what I mean when I say a "remake" but you all know why I don't say "re-imagining"!
     
    I do mean a totally different script/story/approach.


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
    Sent: Saturday, 29 November 2008 8:54 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] My hopes for a Conquest Remake.

    That's what I'm thinking.... the only similarity to the old films will be perhaps an ape named "Caesar". I can't imagine Fox going back to the old storyline... .

    --- On Fri, 11/28/08, Neil Foster <ntfoster@bigpond. com> wrote:

    > From: Neil Foster <
    href="mailto:ntfoster%40bigpond.com">ntfoster@bigpond. com>
    >
    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] My hopes for a Conquest Remake.
    > To:
    href="mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com">PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    >
    Date: Friday, November 28, 2008, 4:35 PM
    > Well my hope is that they don't
    actually remake Conquest
    > but that they
    > use a new version of it
    as a launching point for more
    > movies. Retelling
    > the story of how
    the Apes take over makes much more sense
    > as a 'first'
    > movie. I
    would have thought that if the original intent was
    > to make a
    >
    sequence of movies then to start with something like
    > Conquest would
    make
    > sense.
    >
    > Neil
    >
    >
    >
    -----Original Message-----
    > From:
    href="mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com">PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    >
    [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf
    > Of Alex Ruiz
    > Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 2:28
    AM
    > To:
    href="mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com">PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    >
    Subject: [PotaDG] My hopes for a Conquest Remake.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > My only hopes for a Conquest Remake would
    be...
    > .
    >
    > <
    href="http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m">http://geo.yahoo. com/serv? s=97359714/ grpId=8605785/ grpspId=17050214 37/m
    >
    sgId=49591/stime= 1227889662/ nc1=5008815/ nc2=3848614/ nc3=3858797>

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    Group: potadg Message: 49612 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/28/2008
    Subject: Re: My hopes for a Conquest Remake.
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    .html
    Well, I hope they are tuning into this group so they don't come up with something silly again!

    So who should we have as actors?


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Ruiz
    Sent: Saturday, 29 November 2008 2:46 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] My hopes for a Conquest Remake.

    I completely agree. And I believe that's exactly what it's going to be.
    Not a remake but a beginning to a new saga by using the concept of Conquest. 
     
    Al


    From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@bigpond. com>
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 4:35:32 PM
    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] My hopes for a Conquest Remake.

    Well my hope is that they don't actually remake Conquest but that they use a new version of it as a launching point for more movies. Retelling the story of how the Apes take over makes much more sense as a 'first' movie. I would have thought that if the original intent was to make a sequence of movies then to start with something like Conquest would make sense.
     
    Neil
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Alex Ruiz
    Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 2:28 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    Subject: [PotaDG] My hopes for a Conquest Remake.

    My only hopes for a Conquest Remake would be...
    .


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    Group: potadg Message: 49613 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/28/2008
    Subject: Re: My hopes for a Conquest Remake.
    .html
    .html
    Won't be long Rich - just running it by a few people for comment.
     
    It has changed RADICALLY in the past 2 weeks after getting some very helpful comments.


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rassmguy
    Sent: Saturday, 29 November 2008 7:10 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: My hopes for a Conquest Remake.

    I look forward to reading it.

    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
    <sallywhitty@ ...> wrote:

    > Kinda like
    the new comic Neil and I are doing (BEGINS) that's been
    heavily revised and will be ready soon for the group to see.

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    Group: potadg Message: 49614 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 11/28/2008
    Subject: Re: My hopes for a Conquest Remake.
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    In a message dated 11/28/08 10:49:03 PM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:
    That's what I mean when I say a "remake" but you all know why I don't say "re-imagining"!
     
    I do mean a totally different script/story/approach.
    *** Then how about "revamped" or something, because it will not be a "remake"... The Burton film is often referred to as a "remake" (even on this groups home-page)... I see pota2001 referred to as a "remake" way more than I see the "re-imagination" term attached to it... Just because the "re-imagination" term is attached to pota2001 (and you didn't care for the film), you do have to admit that IS a better term for it than "remake".



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    Group: potadg Message: 49615 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/28/2008
    Subject: Re: My hopes for a Conquest Remake.
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    Yes - it is a better term.


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
    Sent: Saturday, 29 November 2008 3:08 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] My hopes for a Conquest Remake.

    In a message dated 11/28/08 10:49:03 PM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@ bigpond.com writes:
    That's what I mean when I say a "remake" but you all know why I don't say "re-imagining" !
     
    I do mean a totally different script/story/ approach.
    *** Then how about "revamped" or something, because it will not be a "remake"... The Burton film is often referred to as a "remake" (even on this groups home-page).. . I see pota2001 referred to as a "remake" way more than I see the "re-imagination" term attached to it... Just because the "re-imagination" term is attached to pota2001 (and you didn't care for the film), you do have to admit that IS a better term for it than "remake".



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    Group: potadg Message: 49616 From: Rich Handley Date: 11/29/2008
    Subject: Re: Digest Number 3585
    .html
    >Posted by: " mlccougar@..." mlccougar@... mlccougar
    >*** Then how about "revamped" or something, because it will not be a
    >"remake"... The Burton film is often referred to as a "remake" (even
    >on this groups
    >home-page)... I see pota2001 referred to as a "remake" way more than I see
    >the "re-imagination" term attached to it...


    I'll be happy if the term"regurgitation" doesn't turn out to be appropriate.
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    Group: potadg Message: 49617 From: Hunter Goatley Date: 11/29/2008
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    Barnes & Noble has the Apes Blu-ray set for $69.99 (half off). It's
    not hard to find B&N coupons for an extra 10% or 15% off....

    http://video.barnesandnoble.com/DVD/Planet-Of-The-Apes-40th-Anniversary-Collection/e/24543551522/?itm=1

    Here's a coupon for 15% off:

    http://www.barnesandnoble.com/email/nav.asp?r=1&PID=26080&afsrc=1&r=1

    Hunter
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    Group: potadg Message: 49618 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 11/29/2008
    Subject: Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?
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    John Chamber knew that there are many layers
    of variation as light penetrates skin and it shows
    in his work.  But many of the makeups since his
    just look flat.  Sure it saves time, but the extra
    effort is worth it for the over all effect on screen.
     
     
    In a message dated 11/28/2008 4:46:45 A.M. Central Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:
    *** I mean the APEMANIA appliances look too spongy, not the BENEATH appliances. ***



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    Group: potadg Message: 49619 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/29/2008
    Subject: Re: Blu-ray set on sale at B&N
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    Hey Hunter
     
    Can someone like me do a purchase on-line or is B&N shop-front only?


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Hunter Goatley
    Sent: Sunday, 30 November 2008 2:12 AM
    To: potadg@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Blu-ray set on sale at B&N

    Barnes & Noble has the Apes Blu-ray set for $69.99 (half off). It's
    not hard to find B&N coupons for an extra 10% or 15% off....

    http://video. barnesandnoble. com/DVD/Planet- Of-The-Apes- 40th-Anniversary -Collection/ e/24543551522/ ?itm=1

    Here's a coupon for 15% off:

    http://www.barnesan dnoble.com/ email/nav. asp?r=1&PID= 26080&afsrc= 1&r=1

    Hunter

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    Group: potadg Message: 49620 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 11/29/2008
    Subject: Re: Channel of the Apes - anybody taping them?
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    In a message dated 11/29/08 12:01:13 PM Central Standard Time, TZer0@... writes:
    John Chamber knew that there are many layers
    of variation as light penetrates skin and it shows
    in his work.  But many of the makeups since his
    just look flat.  Sure it saves time, but the extra
    effort is worth it for the over all effect on screen.
    **** Exactly, that's what I've been trying to say... ***



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    Group: potadg Message: 49621 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 11/29/2008
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    Amazon has it for $69.95 as well.....and the individual Beneath is 17 bucks!


    --- On Sat, 11/29/08, Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...> wrote:

    > From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
    > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Blu-ray set on sale at B&N
    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > Date: Saturday, November 29, 2008, 3:38 PM
    > Hey Hunter
    >
    > Can someone like me do a purchase on-line or is B&N
    > shop-front only?
    >
    > _____
    >
    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
    > Hunter Goatley
    > Sent: Sunday, 30 November 2008 2:12 AM
    > To: potadg@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [PotaDG] Blu-ray set on sale at B&N
    >
    >
    >
    > Barnes & Noble has the Apes Blu-ray set for $69.99
    > (half off). It's
    > not hard to find B&N coupons for an extra 10% or 15%
    > off....
    >
    > http://video.
    > <http://video.barnesandnoble.com/DVD/Planet-Of-The-Apes-40th-Anniversary-Col
    > lection/e/24543551522/?itm=1>
    > barnesandnoble.com/DVD/Planet-Of-The-Apes-40th-Anniversary-Collection/e/2454
    > 3551522/?itm=1
    >
    > Here's a coupon for 15% off:
    >
    > http://www.barnesan
    > <http://www.barnesandnoble.com/email/nav.asp?r=1&PID=26080&afsrc=1&r=1>
    > dnoble.com/email/nav.asp?r=1&PID=26080&afsrc=1&r=1
    >
    > Hunter
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    Group: potadg Message: 49622 From: Alex Ruiz Date: 11/29/2008
    Subject: Fox Legacy: Planet of the Apes
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    Here's the Fox Movie Channel's presentation of Planet of the Apes hosted by Tom Rothman

     

    www.potacollective.com/tv/legacy.wmv

     

    Enjoy!

     

    Al


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    Group: potadg Message: 49623 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/29/2008
    Subject: SHIT! - he talked about the new script!
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    The vibe I'm getting has legs!

    Michael


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Ruiz
    Sent: Sunday, 30 November 2008 10:57 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Fox Legacy: Planet of the Apes

    Here's the Fox Movie Channel's presentation of Planet of the Apes hosted by Tom Rothman

     

    www.potacollective. com/tv/legacy. wmv

     

    Enjoy!

     

    Al


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    Group: potadg Message: 49624 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 11/29/2008
    Subject: Re: Fox Legacy: Planet of the Apes
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    THANKS AL!
    That was GREAT!
    Michael


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Ruiz
    Sent: Sunday, 30 November 2008 10:57 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Fox Legacy: Planet of the Apes

    Here's the Fox Movie Channel's presentation of Planet of the Apes hosted by Tom Rothman

     

    www.potacollective. com/tv/legacy. wmv

     

    Enjoy!

     

    Al


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