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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 3:46 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Help

Neil,

Didn’t I see the original poster on eBay recently?

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 3:57 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Help

Could you find it and share please?

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Saturday, 17 January 2009 3:51 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Help

I do have a handbill/flyer for one of the live shows but it wasn't for the one I went to. A scan of it should still be in the files section somewhere I think.

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In a message dated 1/16/09 11:11:26 PM Central Standard Time, neilmoxham@... writes:

And you're right Mike, imdb isn't perfect

*** And I think Whitty is right... They're sure not up to snuff on the lesser known and "behind the scenes" types (stuntmen, etc.) ***

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No. It's run by a guy called Brian Kurtz (who's name sounds familiar
but I'm not sure from where). But i'v contributed most of the TV
series episode/character/actor pages, and I'm working my way through
characters from all the comics at the moment. I'm good at setting up
pages and providing pictures, not so good at actually writing
articles to go on the pages!


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
<sallywhitty@...> wrote:

>
> Cool!
>
>
>
> Is this YOUR wiki Neil?
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On

Behalf Of

> nlmoxham
> Sent: Saturday, 17 January 2009 3:11 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: The Surgeon (David Naughton was a guest on

it.)

>
>
>
> Here's my wiki page on 'The Surgeon', there's pictures of David
> Naughton as 'Doctor Stole', both of Ron Stein's characters and

Eldon

> Burke, if you follow the links:
>
> http://planetofthea

<http://planetoftheapes.wikia.com/wiki/The_Surgeon>

> pes.wikia.com/wiki/The_Surgeon
>
> And you're right Mike, imdb isn't perfect - Ron and Eldon for

example

> appeared in at least 12 and 10 episodes respectively but are only
> credited with 10 and 5.
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>

com, "Jeff"

> <skintricks@> wrote:
> >
> > You're right. Sorry.
> >
> > Jeff B
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: mlccougar@
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 7:44 PM
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: The Surgeon (David Naughton was a guest on
> it.)
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 1/16/09 7:46:53 PM Central Standard Time,
> skintricks@ writes:
> > The episode also features Eldon Burke as a gorilla and human
> in separate scenes.
> > *** I think you might be thinking of Ron Stein in dual roles...
> He's the gorilla that has his cart hijacked by Galen and Burke, and
> he's also the human that gets into a fight with Burke when Burke
> steps in to protect the girl from the beating (for spilling the
> water... ***
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> ----------
> > A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy
> steps!
> >
>

When I say neighbor, I mean he lives 7 minutes away, perhaps 10 minutes if I hit a lot of red lights. 

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Michael & Sally Whitty < sallywhitty@...> wrote:

Hmmm…I'd love to join you but you would need to get a LOT of material…  J

 

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
Sent: Saturday, 17 January 2009 3:39 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: My Zira 1/1 scale costume

 

Not sure at this point if he will be available.  He will try but he may be too busy to commit.  Hopefully there will be other apes there.  I haven't heard from anybody for sure though if they will go ape with me so I may be the only ape in town. 

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:21 PM, nlmoxham <neilmoxham@...> wrote:

This looks great Jessica, can't wait to see the finished costume. Is
Dan planning to attend the Wondercon with you?

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "juswannaknit" <jessicarotich@...>
wrote:

>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , jessica rotich <jessicarotich@>
wrote:
> >
> > Hello fellow apes. I have been very busy trying to get together
my
> own 1/1
> > scale costume for the upcoming Wondercon 2009. It was through
this
> group
> > that I collided quite by accident into my neighbor, Dan Morgan.
(Hi
> Dan!!)
> > I had been traversing the internet looking for ape-related photos
> and came
> > across a post of him in full ape regalia, the likes of which I
had never
> > seen before. Never in my wildest moments would I dream that I
would
> ever
> > have the chance of a lifetime to actually undergo a lifemold
process and
> > have appliances specifically made for my face. Blessed with
trigger
> fingers
> > and lots of nervous energy, I asked Dan out of the blue if he
would ever
> > consider making me a set of Zira appliances. After a few quick
> e-mails, we
> > set a date to meet over some coffee at a local Starbucks.
> >
> > Dan was kind enough to bring one chimp shoe made by Bill Blake
and an
> > unpainted Cornelius foam latex appliance that he had baked (OMG--
so
> BUTTER
> > SOFT!!!) to our coffee date. It was quite invaluable to peek
into the
> > shoes. Seeing it firsthand, I was able to retain the overall
> premise of the
> > design and keep that in my mind as I had planned to MacGuyver my
own
> set of
> > chimp boots.
> >
> > Here are photos my costume that I tailored myself:
> > Boots:
> >
> http://s302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/?
action=view&current=Zira004-1.jpg
> >
> > This is me in the Apemania Zira mask (still unpainted). Tom
> Rubalcava was
> > kind enough to help in me in quest to up my ape dreams a notch by
> making me
> > my own set from a lifemold of my face.
> > [IMG]
> >
> http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/IMG_4427-
1.jpg[/IMG]
> >
> > The green jacket (GoApeBilly gave me a better set of
> hieroglyphs--thank you,
> > Billy!!)
> >
> http://s302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/?
action=view&current=Zira013.jpg
> >
> > The brown underdress (I will eventually re-weave the inner sleeves
> as soon
> > as I find the perfect yarn. For now it will have to do.):
> >
> http://s302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/?
action=view&current=dec2008189.jpg
> >
> > Sorry if you've seen this stuff before.
> >
> > Jessica.
> >
>
> The link for my Apemania photo did not work, so I stuck a photo of
it
> in my folder, Jessica's Stuff.
>

 

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*** Whitty, the Ron Harper interview is in SIMIAN SCROLLS # 8... I glanced at the interview again but I didn't see anything about him mentioning that he had recently seen Eldon Burke, so I don't know where I got that from... You're mentioned in the credits though. Weird. ***

 

 

In a message dated 1/16/09 11:51:54 PM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

See if you can find it…..

 

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Saturday, 17 January 2009 1:25 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE!

 

In a message dated 1/16/09 5:22:57 PM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@ bigpond.com writes:

Do you recall what issue that was?

*** Not right off hand... But I'll look around tomorrow and see if I find the SCROLLS issue (with Ron Harper). *

 

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It's my understanding that for Zira Chambers had to create a special

technique to make the appliances.  I never found out what it was, but

way back before Apemania was a going concern I thought I'd corner

the market and bought a bunch of seconds.  The Zira was, as you say,

butter soft.  So soft in fact it probably would have fallen apart if handled.

So it was cast over some kind of material.  Hard to describe.  Sort of like

you'd make pantyhose or tights out of.  Anyone know anything about this

"Special Process"?

 

 

In a message dated 1/16/2009 11:21:55 P.M. Central Standard Time, neilmoxham@... writes:

consider making me a set of Zira appliances. After a few quick
> e-mails, we
> > set a date to meet over some coffee at a local Starbucks.
> >
> > Dan was kind enough to bring one chimp shoe made by Bill Blake
and an
> > unpainted Cornelius foam latex appliance that he had baked (OMG--
so
> BUTTER
> > SOFT!!!)

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So Myfanwy, are you the only Ape in the village?

 

 

In a message dated 1/16/2009 11:38:50 P.M. Central Standard Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

I haven't heard from anybody for sure though if they will go ape with me so I may be the only ape in town. 

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There are a few more weeks until Wondercon.  Maybe another ape or two may show up.  I hope so, for my sake.  I've never been made up as an ape before, or had appliances glued onto my face.  I just wonder how it is to be fully made up as an ape and only have your eyeballs uncovered.  Freaky I think.

On Sat, Jan 17, 2009 at 12:22 AM, Michael & Sally Whitty < sallywhitty@...> wrote:

That really is close!

 

Neil's at least 15 minutes from my place….

 

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
Sent: Saturday, 17 January 2009 4:59 PM

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: My Zira 1/1 scale costume

 

When I say neighbor, I mean he lives 7 minutes away, perhaps 10 minutes if I hit a lot of red lights. 

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:54 PM, Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@... > wrote:

Hmmm…I'd love to join you but you would need to get a LOT of material…  J

 

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
Sent: Saturday, 17 January 2009 3:39 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: My Zira 1/1 scale costume

 

Not sure at this point if he will be available.  He will try but he may be too busy to commit.  Hopefully there will be other apes there.  I haven't heard from anybody for sure though if they will go ape with me so I may be the only ape in town. 

On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:21 PM, nlmoxham <neilmoxham@... > wrote:

This looks great Jessica, can't wait to see the finished costume. Is
Dan planning to attend the Wondercon with you?

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "juswannaknit" <jessicarotich@...>
wrote:

>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , jessica rotich <jessicarotich@>
wrote:
> >
> > Hello fellow apes. I have been very busy trying to get together
my
> own 1/1
> > scale costume for the upcoming Wondercon 2009. It was through
this
> group
> > that I collided quite by accident into my neighbor, Dan Morgan.
(Hi
> Dan!!)
> > I had been traversing the internet looking for ape-related photos
> and came
> > across a post of him in full ape regalia, the likes of which I
had never
> > seen before. Never in my wildest moments would I dream that I
would
> ever
> > have the chance of a lifetime to actually undergo a lifemold
process and
> > have appliances specifically made for my face. Blessed with
trigger
> fingers
> > and lots of nervous energy, I asked Dan out of the blue if he
would ever
> > consider making me a set of Zira appliances. After a few quick
> e-mails, we
> > set a date to meet over some coffee at a local Starbucks.
> >
> > Dan was kind enough to bring one chimp shoe made by Bill Blake
and an
> > unpainted Cornelius foam latex appliance that he had baked (OMG--
so
> BUTTER
> > SOFT!!!) to our coffee date. It was quite invaluable to peek
into the
> > shoes. Seeing it firsthand, I was able to retain the overall
> premise of the
> > design and keep that in my mind as I had planned to MacGuyver my
own
> set of
> > chimp boots.
> >
> > Here are photos my costume that I tailored myself:
> > Boots:
> >
> http://s302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/?
action=view&current=Zira004-1.jpg
> >
> > This is me in the Apemania Zira mask (still unpainted). Tom
> Rubalcava was
> > kind enough to help in me in quest to up my ape dreams a notch by
> making me
> > my own set from a lifemold of my face.
> > [IMG]
> >
> http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/IMG_4427-
1.jpg[/IMG]
> >
> > The green jacket (GoApeBilly gave me a better set of
> hieroglyphs--thank you,
> > Billy!!)
> >
> http://s302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/?
action=view&current=Zira013.jpg
> >
> > The brown underdress (I will eventually re-weave the inner sleeves
> as soon
> > as I find the perfect yarn. For now it will have to do.):
> >
> http://s302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/?
action=view&current=dec2008189.jpg
> >
> > Sorry if you've seen this stuff before.
> >
> > Jessica.
> >
>
> The link for my Apemania photo did not work, so I stuck a photo of
it
> in my folder, Jessica's Stuff.
>

 

 

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael & Sally Whitty"
<sallywhitty@...> wrote:

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> Can you give us a content summary?

Tributes to Heston, Rosenman and Hagen (The worst part about Scrolls
is that you can practically count on a tribute to a recently passed
away player in each issue).

John Chambers career, Interviews with Maurice Stein & Rob Burman. An
in-depth look at un-produced comic strips and a few other surprises.

Hope all that order, enjoy it!

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These are some really nice posters. The Romanian one is like nothing
I've seen before in POTA:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Planet-of-the-Apes-ORIG-MOVIE-POSTER-Czech-1SH-
1970_W0QQitemZ220306474720QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?
hash=item220306474720&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%
3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50


http://cgi.ebay.com/Planet-of-the-Apes-ORIG-MOVIE-POSTER-Romanian-
1968_W0QQitemZ220327832037QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?
hash=item220327832037&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%
3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50



--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
<sallywhitty@...> wrote:

>
> Neil,
>
>
>
> Didn't I see the original poster on eBay recently?
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On

Behalf Of

> Neil Foster
> Sent: Saturday, 17 January 2009 11:06 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Help
>
>
>
> Hi Mark, I think you may have me confused with someone else as I

have never

> written any articles on anything!
>
> I was there at Spotlands though for the Rochdale Apes show but not

any of

> the others.
> I was living in Bury at the time and got our local newsagent to

keep the

> poster for me that they had in their window advertising it and at

the show I

> got a couple of 'autographed' photos but they're all long gone now

sadly.

>
>
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On

Behalf Of

> haydon.mark
> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 10:31 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Help
>
> Message for neil foster who attended all the P.O.T.A shows in the

U.K

> in the mid seventies.
> I read your artical in the simian times but there was no mention of

the

> show going to Rochdale at the football club which i attended
> (spotlands) there is a mention of 3500 fans mobbing at the

supermarket.

> Could you or anyone help in the obtaining of memrobelia from this

event.

> My story is when i was about 12/13 i saw a poster advertising the

show

> to be at Rochdale.
> I went out and got myself a sunday paper round for two months to

get

> the money together to be able to go and watch the show.
> My biggest memory was me being a young boy and a gorilla soldier

coming

> up in the crowd right next to me and the boy i went with scared and
> crying , but me loving every minute of it.
> Can you or anyone help
>
> .
>
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?

s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/msgId

> =50307/stime=1232153982/nc1=3858795/nc2=3848621/nc3=4836042>
>

Those are ebay item numbers

220306474720

220327832037

incase the links don't work

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "nlmoxham" <neilmoxham@...> wrote:
>
> These are some really nice posters. The Romanian one is like
nothing
> I've seen before in POTA:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Planet-of-the-Apes-ORIG-MOVIE-POSTER-Czech-1SH-
> 1970_W0QQitemZ220306474720QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?
> hash=item220306474720&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%
> 3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Planet-of-the-Apes-ORIG-MOVIE-POSTER-Romanian-
> 1968_W0QQitemZ220327832037QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?
> hash=item220327832037&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%
> 3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
> <sallywhitty@> wrote:
> >
> > Neil,
> >
> >
> >
> > Didn't I see the original poster on eBay recently?
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On
> Behalf Of
> > Neil Foster
> > Sent: Saturday, 17 January 2009 11:06 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Help
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Mark, I think you may have me confused with someone else as I
> have never
> > written any articles on anything!
> >
> > I was there at Spotlands though for the Rochdale Apes show but
not
> any of
> > the others.
> > I was living in Bury at the time and got our local newsagent to
> keep the
> > poster for me that they had in their window advertising it and at
> the show I
> > got a couple of 'autographed' photos but they're all long gone
now
> sadly.
> >
> >
> >
> > Neil
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On
> Behalf Of
> > haydon.mark
> > Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 10:31 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Help
> >
> > Message for neil foster who attended all the P.O.T.A shows in the
> U.K
> > in the mid seventies.
> > I read your artical in the simian times but there was no mention
of
> the
> > show going to Rochdale at the football club which i attended
> > (spotlands) there is a mention of 3500 fans mobbing at the
> supermarket.
> > Could you or anyone help in the obtaining of memrobelia from this
> event.
> > My story is when i was about 12/13 i saw a poster advertising the
> show
> > to be at Rochdale.
> > I went out and got myself a sunday paper round for two months to
> get
> > the money together to be able to go and watch the show.
> > My biggest memory was me being a young boy and a gorilla soldier
> coming
> > up in the crowd right next to me and the boy i went with scared
and
> > crying , but me loving every minute of it.
> > Can you or anyone help
> >
> > .
> >
> >
> > <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?
> s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/msgId
> > =50307/stime=1232153982/nc1=3858795/nc2=3848621/nc3=4836042>
> >
>

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Thanks for sharing that Neil. Just so I'm clear - the newspaper
clipping with the picture of the apes on the tube was from the same
production as this flyer, was it? I just ask because that showed 'an
astronaut' that doesn't get a mention in the flyer, and also because,
as Whitty said, those were trained stage actors whereas the show you
saw was a circus/stunt type of show. Was there acting aswell, do you
(or Mark) recall?

Thanks,
Neil M

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> No... because it's not there! I'll upload a copy right away sir!
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Michael & Sally Whitty
> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 3:57 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Help
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Could you find it and share please?
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Neil Foster
> Sent: Saturday, 17 January 2009 3:51 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Help
>
> I do have a handbill/flyer for one of the live shows but it wasn't
for
> the one I went to. A scan of it should still be in the files section
> somewhere I think.
>
> .
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?
s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
> sgId=50333/stime=1232171836/nc1=3848627/nc2=3858795/nc3=5349275>
>

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If your interested the show that i saw at Rochdale football ground in the seventies was to my memory a show where the humans where being chased around the football ground, sometimes on horseback, there was a few scrap cars and stunt cars at one stage.

The acting wasn't brilliant because they had mic's on and the script was a little basic

But the show was still a great day out they did inter-act with the crowd, i'm sorry but i was a kid and i worked on Sunday doing a paper round for the show and to buy the weekly marvel comic, i even made my own gorilla outfit has did half a dozen friends.

We played planet of the apes most days but the one thing i wanted when i was young but was always to expensive for me but i used to walk past the shop every day and check them out was the gorilla and urko latex masks!!!

I had to wait many years before getting my hands on a screen worn background gorilla outfit from beneath the planet of the apes.

Hope the top part of this helps   

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One other thing looking at simian times about the shows the poster was different than them that i remember.

what i remember was a full colour poster with urko on the cover which is what i'm trying to find

Also yes i think it was a stunt show more than a acting performance, which leads me on to another question

Was there another type of show ?

If so can you or anyone explain?

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of markhaydon3@...
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 7:37 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Help

If your interested the show that i saw at Rochdale football ground in the seventies was to my memory a show where the humans where being chased around the football ground, sometimes on horseback, there was a few scrap cars and stunt cars at one stage.

The acting wasn't brilliant because they had mic's on and the script was a little basic

But the show was still a great day out they did inter-act with the crowd, i'm sorry but i was a kid and i worked on Sunday doing a paper round for the show and to buy the weekly marvel comic, i even made my own gorilla outfit has did half a dozen friends.

We played planet of the apes most days but the one thing i wanted when i was young but was always to expensive for me but i used to walk past the shop every day and check them out was the gorilla and urko latex masks!!!

I had to wait many years before getting my hands on a screen worn background gorilla outfit from beneath the planet of the apes.

Hope the top part of this helps 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of markhaydon3@...
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 7:44 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Help

Was there another type of show ?

If so can you or anyone explain?

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Wouldn't the horses make a bit of a mess? :)


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
<sallywhitty@...> wrote:

>
> Hi Mark
>
>
>
> I have heard of a "Mall Show" in Australia at around the same time

where

> actors did their bit on a stage inside shopping malls.
>
>
>
> This has never been confirmed, but it makes sense and if the show

was an

> elaborate OUTDOORS event I am almost positive the same show would be
> available for shopping mall shows.
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On

Behalf Of

> markhaydon3@...
> Sent: Sunday, 18 January 2009 7:44 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Help
>
>
>
> One other thing looking at simian times about the shows the poster

was

> different than them that i remember.
>
> what i remember was a full colour poster with urko on the cover

which is

> what i'm trying to find
>
> Also yes i think it was a stunt show more than a acting

performance, which

> leads me on to another question
>
> Was there another type of show ?
>
> If so can you or anyone explain?
>

Yes Mark it does, thanks. There's almost nothing to go on, other than
your's and Neil's memories.
Just for the record, there's a John Mundy (name from the newspaper
clipping) who's a local TV newsreader/voiceover artist in Manchester,
but...this is not the John Mundy we're looking for. That's
unfortunate, he was my best lead because he's the right age and
trained as an actor in his youth.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, markhaydon3@... wrote:
>
> If your interested the show that i saw at Rochdale football ground
in the
> seventies was to my memory a show where the humans where being
chased around the
> football ground, sometimes on horseback, there was a few scrap
cars and
> stunt cars at one stage.
> The acting wasn't brilliant because they had mic's on and the
script was a
> little basic
> But the show was still a great day out they did inter-act with the
crowd,
> i'm sorry but i was a kid and i worked on Sunday doing a paper
round for the
> show and to buy the weekly marvel comic, i even made my own gorilla
outfit has
> did half a dozen friends.
> We played planet of the apes most days but the one thing i wanted
when i was
> young but was always to expensive for me but i used to walk past
the shop
> every day and check them out was the gorilla and urko latex masks!!!
> I had to wait many years before getting my hands on a screen worn
background
> gorilla outfit from beneath the planet of the apes.
> Hope the top part of this helps
>

Yeah, Anthony said a while back that he'd seen a POTA circus show in
New Orleans. Presumably not the same people as in the UK.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> In the USA they had the Bill Blake & Paula Crist show where they
> appeared as Cornelius and Zira, and I think they may have also had
some
> sort of circus/rodeo Apes show for a little while as well though I
could
> be wrong? I 'm sure I have seen a poster for such a show on eBay, I
may
> have a picture of it somewhere I'll have a look and see if I can
find it
> if I have.
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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Behalf
> Of markhaydon3@...
> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 7:44 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Help
>
>
>
>
>
> Was there another type of show ?
> If so can you or anyone explain?
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On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:48 PM, <LordTZer0@...> wrote:

 

It's all proportions and getting the measurements and time & temp right.

If you can bake a cake you can do foam.  Just stay away from non makeup

colorants, unless you like cleaning sticky goo out of your molds.

 

In a message dated 1/16/2009 5:17:09 A.M. Central Standard Time, jessicarotich@... writes:

Maybe someday!  I found something on the internet about how you could bake foam latex with a turkey oven, something you could purchase at Walmart for $30 or so!!!  I will have to look into this. 

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I think I had included him on the movie list

--- On Fri, 1/16/09, mlccougar@... <mlccougar@... > wrote:

> From: mlccougar@... <mlccougar@...>
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE!
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 3:51 PM
> In a message dated 1/16/09 11:30:26 AM Central Standard
> Time,
> apefan23@... writes:
>
> Here's a list of POTA TV actors still around:
>
>
> *** That list should include Eldon Burke too... He's
> one of the guys that
> was in the films and the TV series. ***
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I didn't include people who didn't have a death date but hadn't worked since the 80's!

--- On Fri, 1/16/09, mlccougar@... <mlccougar@... > wrote:

> From: mlccougar@... <mlccougar@...>
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE!
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 4:27 PM
> In a message dated 1/16/09 3:23:36 PM Central Standard Time,
>
> ntfoster@... writes:
>
> And then not much else by the looks of it!
>
>
> *** I haven't checked out his credits on IMDB, but I
> thought Eldon Burke was
> busy in films as a stuntman (I think in SCROLLS Ron Harper
> said he seen him
> recently and that he thought he had just retired?) ***
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He was a chimp doctor in "The Surgeon"...he had one scene....

--- On Fri, 1/16/09, Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...> wrote:

> From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE!
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 6:17 PM
> DAVID Naughton? What did he do Tim?
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Tim "apefan"
> Sent: Saturday, 17 January 2009 3:30 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE!
>
>
>
> Here's a list of POTA TV actors still around:
>
> Interesting note....Meegan King who played Gregar in
> "The Horse Race" is the
> son of Wright "Dr. Galen" King! Is this the only
> two generation pair? We've
> got James and David Naughton who are brothers.....
>
> Ron Harper
>
> James Naughton
>
> Ron Stein (Gorilla)
>
> Booth Colman
>
> Jacqueline Scott
>
> Martin E. Brooks
>
> Pat Renella
>
> Biff Elliot
>
> Nick Dimitri
>
> William Smith "Tolar"
>
> Marc Singer
>
> Norman Alden
>
> Cindy Eilbacher "Lisa Miller"
>
> Eileen Dietz "Jillia"
>
> John Garwood (Gorilla)
>
> Fred Lerner (Gorilla)
>
> Zina Bethune "Arn"
>
> Jackie Earle Haley
>
> Robert Phillips (Gorilla)
>
> Jay Robinson "Bandor"
>
> Jim Storm "Romar"
>
> Jamie Smith-Jackson "Girl in Surgeon"
>
> David Naughton
>
> Jane Actman "Fauna"
>
> Morgan Woodward "Martin"
>
> Richard Devon "Zandar"
>
> Meegan King "Gregor in Horse Race" ** SON OF
> WRIGHT KING!
>
> Lee Delano (Gorilla)
>
> Lynn Benisch "Susan in Interrogation"
>
> Joseph Ruskin "Daku in Tyrant"
>
> James Daughton "Mikal" **Greg from Animal House!
>
> Klair Bybee "Sam in Tyrant"
>
> Sondra Locke
>
> David Sheiner "Zoran"
>
> Jennifer Ashley "Talia in Liberator"
>
> Joanna Barnes "Karsia"
>
> Frank Aletter "Leuric"

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 6:35 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
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The horses may have made a bit of a mess but that's nothing to cars spinning around , dont forget this was a proper football ground with stadium, i know i wouldn't want to have been the groundsman after that.

Unless it was being relayed after this performance, i believe it was only on for one day as well

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of markhaydon3@...
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2009 10:36 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Help

The horses may have made a bit of a mess but that's nothing to cars spinning around , dont forget this was a proper football ground with stadium, i know i wouldn't want to have been the groundsman after that.

Unless it was being relayed after this performance, i believe it was only on for one day as well

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Can you remember who this person was then i could try and see if we can get it transferred to

disc / mp4 / dvd or whatever, if you could only remember??

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Your propably right because the reason i became a man utd supporter was Rochdale, Oldham and Man City where at the time pretty bad and United had Charlton and Best playing for them.

Luckily i didn't have to pay for that my dad would pay for football games

You where also right it was around may / June time if i remember

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I haven't talked to Smolen in aloooong time....I'll have to dig up his address!

--- On Sat, 1/17/09, Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...> wrote:

> From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Help
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, January 17, 2009, 12:45 AM
> Tim
>
>
>
> Could you please forward this to Mark Smolen?
>
>
>
> I believe he has some VERY nice stuff related to this.
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> haydon.mark
> Sent: Saturday, 17 January 2009 10:31 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Help
>
>
>
> Message for neil foster who attended all the P.O.T.A shows
> in the U.K
> in the mid seventies.
> I read your artical in the simian times but there was no
> mention of the
> show going to Rochdale at the football club which i
> attended
> (spotlands) there is a mention of 3500 fans mobbing at the
> supermarket.
> Could you or anyone help in the obtaining of memrobelia
> from this event.
> My story is when i was about 12/13 i saw a poster
> advertising the show
> to be at Rochdale.
> I went out and got myself a sunday paper round for two
> months to get
> the money together to be able to go and watch the show.
> My biggest memory was me being a young boy and a gorilla
> soldier coming
> up in the crowd right next to me and the boy i went with
> scared and
> crying , but me loving every minute of it.
> Can you or anyone help