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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50226 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50227 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50228 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50229 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Ricardo |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50230 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50231 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50232 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50233 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50234 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50235 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50236 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50237 |
From: Hunter Goatley |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Hunter's site lives! |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50238 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50239 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50240 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50241 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50242 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50243 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Hunter's site lives! |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50244 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50245 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50246 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50247 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50248 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50249 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50250 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50251 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50252 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50253 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50254 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50255 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50256 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50257 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50258 |
From: Alex Ruiz |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50259 |
From: Jeff |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50260 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50261 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50262 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50263 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: We POTA fans are doing all right! |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50264 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50265 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50266 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50267 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50268 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Peck's Bad Boy |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50269 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50270 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50271 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50272 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50273 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50274 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50275 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50276 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50277 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50278 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50279 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50280 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50281 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50282 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50283 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50284 |
From: Hunter Goatley |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: New on Hunter's site.... |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50285 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: New on Hunter's site.... |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50286 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50287 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50288 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50289 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50290 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50291 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Ploog and Apes and Stuff. |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50292 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50293 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50294 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50295 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50296 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50297 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50298 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50299 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50300 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50301 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: IMDB |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50302 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: New Banner - Simian Scrolls POTA 40th? |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50303 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: New Banner - Simian Scrolls POTA 40th? |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50304 |
From: Hunter Goatley |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: New Banner - Simian Scrolls POTA 40th? |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50305 |
From: jessica rotich |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: My Zira 1/1 scale costume |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50306 |
From: juswannaknit |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: My Zira 1/1 scale costume |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50307 |
From: haydon.mark |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Help |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50308 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Help |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50309 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: New Banner - Simian Scrolls POTA 40th? |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50310 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: My Zira 1/1 scale costume |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50311 |
From: Jeff |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50312 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50313 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50314 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50315 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: The Surgeon (David Naughton was a guest on it.) |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50316 |
From: Jeff |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: The Surgeon (David Naughton was a guest on it.) |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50317 |
From: nlmoxham |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: The Surgeon (David Naughton was a guest on it.) |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50318 |
From: nlmoxham |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: My Zira 1/1 scale costume |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50319 |
From: nlmoxham |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Help |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50320 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Calling Dave Ballard.....come in Dave.... |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50321 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: New Banner - Simian Scrolls POTA 40th? |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50322 |
From: jessica rotich |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: My Zira 1/1 scale costume |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50323 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: My Zira 1/1 scale costume |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50324 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Help |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50325 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Help |
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50226 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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In a message dated 1/15/09 12:27:13 AM Central Standard Time,
sallywhitty@... writes:
But who
is "they"?
*** "They" are whoever decided it was more important to include a
clip of Bill Blake saying the hobby shop couldn't keep APES models on
the shelf as opposed to a clip of him talking about the Zira and Cornelius
Road Show. I don't know exactly who "they" are: Maybe it was the editors, maybe
it was the extras producers, I don't know, but the powers that be in charge of
the extras made some bass-ackwards choices while putting those things together.
***
Was Russo talking to the same people Brian spoke to?
*** I couldn't tell you. The stuff I seen only showed the
interviewee on screen and not the interviewer... You'd have to ask the people
involved if they all had the same interviewer.
*** <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50227 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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In a message dated 1/15/09 12:28:54 AM Central Standard Time,
sallywhitty@... writes:
I guess,
like it or not, Greene is an (published) expert
*** He's no more of an expert than you or Jeff or Tim (apesfan), etc. is...
Having a book out doesn't mean jack... Do you know how many "experts" have books
published? An example: There are Elvis and John Lennon "experts" that have
their books published and those books are so full of holes and downright
fabricated "facts" it's not even funny... No, Greene's facts on the films
are NOT like those, when he's actually writing facts they're legit... All I'm
getting at is being "published" doesn't make you any more of an authority than
anybody else. ***
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50228 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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In a message dated 1/15/09 12:28:54 AM Central Standard Time,
sallywhitty@... writes:
I guess,
like it or not, Greene is an (published) expert on apes who wrote his book
WELL before POTA became popular (again) so he will
*** I don't hear you saying the same thing about Christopher
Sausville... He wrote the APES collectibles book and it was published WELL
before APES became popular again, yet you think his book is a joke... It's
published man, that's everything... Having a book out means you are the
man.*** <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50229 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Ricardo |
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It's clear there was a lot of Ricardo in Armando --
whether it was his stoic demeanor trying to give
a poised performace while enduring the pain of
his riding accident, or struggeling to break free
from the "ethnic" roles given to him and his fellow
Hispanic actors. He brought a lot of class to
work. <.html <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50230 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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Maybe they had to save the good stuff for the 50th.
In a message dated 1/14/2009 11:33:28 P.M. Central Standard Time,
mlccougar@... writes:
Russo
was left out in the cold, Buck Kartalian's interview was left on the cutting
room floor, and even Bill Blake was shafted, but there was Eric Greene
o'plenty <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50231 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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Why does no one interview Jerry Marin?
He and his wife were dancing up a storm
at the film festival. Or do they only interview
him about the Lollipop Guild? What the hell?
In a message dated 1/15/2009 12:37:33 A.M. Central Standard Time,
mlccougar@... writes:
In a message dated 1/15/09 12:27:13 AM Central Standard Time,
sallywhitty@ bigpond.com writes:
But
who is "they"?
*** "They" are whoever decided it was more important to include a
clip of Bill Blake saying the hobby shop couldn't keep APES models
on the shelf as opposed to a clip of him talking about the Zira and
Cornelius Road Show. I don't know exactly who "they" are: Maybe it was the
editors, maybe it was the extras producers, I don't know, but the powers that
be in charge of the extras made some bass-ackwards choices while putting those
things together. ***
Was Russo talking to the same people
Brian spoke to?
*** I couldn't tell you. The stuff I seen only showed the
interviewee on screen and not the interviewer. .. You'd have to ask the
people involved if they all had the same interviewer.
***
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50232 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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These are stills I received yesterday from an ebay auction.....good timing....
May the spirit of St. Francis watch over you Armando! <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50233 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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Yeah, one company did the extras, but it was
a last minute decision to do these blu-rays and they were up against the wall.
Plus they are a new company so they didn't have a lot of bargaining room with
Fox. They went to New York to talk to Russo and the Mego people and whoever,
they interviewed in Hollywood, they traveled to Apemania, traveled to film Mort
Abrahams.
Russo offered them his audio interviews and
stuff from researching his book. They could have had some kick ass commentary
tracks but they weren't contracted to do the audio tracks.
It's great that they did something with the
blu-rays instead of just releasing the films. But they could've done so much
more. Knowing Fox I wouldn't be surprised if they use more of this stuff later
in future editions (especially if the new Ape movies become successful). They've
also got a lot of unused stuff from "Behind". Always keep them wanting
more.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 10:37
PM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando Is
Gone
But
who is "they"?
*** "They" are whoever decided it was more important to include a
clip of Bill Blake saying the hobby shop couldn't keep APES models
on the shelf as opposed to a clip of him talking about the Zira and
Cornelius Road Show. I don't know exactly who "they" are: Maybe it was the
editors, maybe it was the extras producers, I don't know, but the powers that
be in charge of the extras made some bass-ackwards choices while putting those
things together. ***
Was Russo talking to the same people
Brian spoke to?
*** I couldn't tell you. The stuff I seen only showed the
interviewee on screen and not the interviewer. .. You'd have to ask the
people involved if they all had the same interviewer.
***
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50234 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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If that's the case where is Brian Pendreigh?
In a message dated 1/15/2009 12:59:23 A.M. Central Standard Time,
mlccougar@... writes:
Having a book out means you are the
man.*** <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50235 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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In a message dated 1/15/09 9:08:38 AM Central Standard Time, TZer0@...
writes:
Maybe
they had to save the good stuff for the 50th.
*** That sounds good in theory, but don't count on it.
*** <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50236 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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In a message dated 1/15/09 11:17:54 AM Central Standard Time,
veetus@... writes:
It's great that they did something with the blu-rays
instead of just releasing the films. But they could've done so much
more.
*** That's exactly what I'm saying... Knowing what should have been and
knowing what is actually on the set as extras is pretty irritating... They threw
the extras together with no real thought as to their content, they just wanted
to say "Look we went all out and gave you new extras that will look pretty on
your HDTV." That's probably the real reason they did them too, to give them some
slick new appearance to go with the new format. *** <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50237 |
From: Hunter Goatley |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Hunter's site lives! |
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Date: 1/15/2009 |
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*** Whitty might know...
All I know is that people automatically assume that if you have a
book out or whatever, you're an "authority", and a lot of the time that's just
not the case... ***
In a message dated 1/15/09 11:51:04 AM Central Standard Time, TZer0@...
writes:
If that's the case where is Brian Pendreigh?
In a message dated 1/15/2009 12:59:23 A.M. Central Standard Time,
mlccougar@... writes:
Having a book out means you are the
man.***
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Message: 50239 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
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Well it is a bit of a game isn’t it?
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Friday, 16 January 2009 1:08
AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando
Is Gone
Maybe they had to save the good stuff for
the 50th.
In a message dated 1/14/2009 11:33:28
P.M. Central Standard Time, mlccougar@aol. com writes:
Russo was left out in the cold, Buck
Kartalian's interview was left on the cutting room floor, and even Bill Blake
was shafted, but there was Eric Greene o'plenty
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From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
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Thanks for sharing these Tim!
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Friday, 16 January 2009 2:59
AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Armando Is
Gone
These are stills I received yesterday from an ebay
auction..... good timing....
May the spirit of St. Francis watch over you Armando!
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Actually you are very wrong Mike.
It would make FAR more sense to me if they
asked Sauseville questions about collectibles.
To someone coming into a project with
limited knowledge you would SURELY look for someone who had published a book
about something before dragging someone off the streets.
But they didn’t even ask Tim –
who provided the materials! They asked Brian Peck (who I am sure is the
guy who used to sell Black and White T Shirts on eBay..)!
Now I’m not saying Sauseville WOULD
have done a good job. And what I said about Eric is correct = like it or
not, he’ll continue to be called in for these POTA interviews because he’s
been published.
No need for your trying to twist that to
me saying it’s a good OR bad thing. I’m saying that’s
how it is.
And it is!
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Thursday, 15 January 2009
4:59 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando
Is Gone
In a message dated 1/15/09 12:28:54 AM
Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@ bigpond.com writes:
I guess, like it or not, Greene is an
(published) expert on apes who wrote his book WELL before POTA became popular
(again) so he will
*** I don't hear you
saying the same thing about Christopher Sausville... He wrote the APES
collectibles book and it was published WELL before APES became popular again,
yet you think his book is a joke... It's published man, that's everything.. .
Having a book out means you are the man.***
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Message: 50242 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
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Yeah I wouldn’t be surprised if they
are holding back but hey they are the poor fuckers TRYING to make it a
business.
I feel pity for any idiot trying to
squeeze a buck out of POTA now!
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Friday, 16 January 2009 3:44
AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando
Is Gone
Yeah, one company did the extras, but it was a last
minute decision to do these blu-rays and they were up against the wall. Plus
they are a new company so they didn't have a lot of bargaining room with Fox.
They went to New York to talk to Russo and the
Mego people and whoever, they interviewed in
Hollywood , they traveled to Apemania,
traveled to film Mort Abrahams.
Russo offered them his audio interviews and stuff
from researching his book. They could have had some kick ass commentary tracks
but they weren't contracted to do the audio tracks.
It's great that they did something with the blu-rays
instead of just releasing the films. But they could've done so much more.
Knowing Fox I wouldn't be surprised if they use more of this stuff later in
future editions (especially if the new Ape movies become successful). They've
also got a lot of unused stuff from "Behind". Always keep them
wanting more.
----- Original Message -----
Sent:
Wednesday, January
14, 2009 10:37 PM
Subject:
Re: [PotaDG] Re:
Armando Is Gone
But who is "they"?
*** "They" are
whoever decided it was more important to include a clip of Bill Blake
saying the hobby shop couldn't keep APES models on the shelf as
opposed to a clip of him talking about the Zira and Cornelius Road Show. I
don't know exactly who "they" are: Maybe it was the editors, maybe it
was the extras producers, I don't know, but the powers that be in charge of the
extras made some bass-ackwards choices while putting those things together. ***
Was Russo talking to the same people Brian spoke to?
*** I couldn't tell you.
The stuff I seen only showed the interviewee on screen and not the interviewer. ..
You'd have to ask the people involved if they all had the same interviewer. ***
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50243 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
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I care!
Thanks Hunter.
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Hunter Goatley
Sent: Friday, 16 January 2009 5:48
AM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Cc: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ;
friends_and_fugitives@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Hunter's site
lives!
My Apes
site is back online, after being down for 6 days. For those
who understand and/or care, the host system was relocated to a new
datacenter (in Virginia instead of
California ), and my
testing has
shown that downloads are many times faster than they used to be.
https://pota. goatley.com/
Hunter
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Message: 50244 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
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I wouldn’t be surprised.
As with ALIEN for DVDs, the POTA Blu-Ray
set is inspiring people to switch to
BR.
This set has really had the impact that
ape fans wanting more POTA stuff should embrace.
There’s lots more people discovering
and buying classic apes and FOX actually announced (vs fans getting whispers
about) a new movie.
I just don’t get all the negativity!
And speaking of Russo offering the holy
grail – how about FOX actually FINDING unrated CONQUEST, and RESTORING it
to HD! That’s not an easy or cheap thing to do.
THANKS FOX – SOMEONE LOVES AND
APPRECIATES YOU!
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Friday, 16 January 2009 5:37
AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando
Is Gone
In a message dated 1/15/09 9:08:38 AM
Central Standard Time, TZer0@... writes:
Maybe they had to save the good stuff for
the 50th.
*** That sounds good in theory, but don't
count on it. ***
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Message: 50245 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
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OK – so what’s the point at
which you say “hey, I’m satisfied with what they’ve done!”.
To be fair, there’s always more you
could have done.
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Friday, 16 January 2009 5:47
AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando
Is Gone
In a message dated 1/15/09 11:17:54 AM
Central Standard Time, veetus@earthlink. net writes:
It's great that they did something
with the blu-rays instead of just releasing the films. But they could've done
so much more.
*** That's exactly what I'm saying...
Knowing what should have been and knowing what is actually on the set as extras
is pretty irritating.. . They threw the extras together with no real
thought as to their content, they just wanted to say "Look we went all out
and gave you new extras that will look pretty on your HDTV." That's
probably the real reason they did them too, to give them some slick new
appearance to go with the new format. ***
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From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
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Yes Mike, and people think if you have
long hair and a pot plant you are a hippie.
In reality you can’t afford a hair
cut and your kids grow pot.
We all know reality can, and often is, far
from first impressions.
But it’s the world we live in.
It sucks, but it’s how it is and should not surprise you….
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Friday, 16 January 2009 5:50
AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando
Is Gone
All I know is that
people automatically assume that if you have a book out or whatever, you're an
"authority", and a lot of the time that's just not the case... ***
In a message dated 1/15/09 11:51:04 AM
Central Standard Time, TZer0@... writes:
If that's the case where is Brian
Pendreigh?
In a message dated 1/15/2009 12:59:23
A.M. Central Standard Time, mlccougar@aol. com writes:
Having a book out means
you are the man.***
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Date: 1/15/2009 |
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Agreed.
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Thursday, 15 January 2009
4:47 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando
Is Gone
In a message dated 1/15/09 12:28:54 AM
Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@ bigpond.com writes:
I guess, like it or not, Greene is an
(published) expert
All I'm getting at is being
"published" doesn't make you any more of an authority than anybody
else. ***
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In a message dated 1/15/09 3:29:55 PM Central Standard Time,
sallywhitty@... writes:
Actually you are very
wrong Mike.
***
In your opinion maybe... But I'm not gonna sit back and take everything that's
spoonfed to me by FOX etc. and think "Wow, they got the best, knowledgable
people around. They are the best because of "factor X". You may be blinded by
the facts that the extras really are NOT all you (and others!) are cracking
them up to be because you're seeing them, and the way they're put together
thru "Blu-Ray colored glasses." It seems like the visual aspect of the DVDs is
blinding your judgement. ***
It would make FAR
more sense to me if they asked Sauseville questions about
collectibles.
***
Yes, it would have... His book, while not great, was the first APES
"collectibles" book around and even though there are FAR more knowledgable
collectors out there, he's the one with the book.. Going by your logic
Book=Expert so he should have been all over that...
***
To someone coming
into a project with limited knowledge you would SURELY look for someone who
had published a book about something before dragging someone off the
streets.
***
Back before the Internet came along, then yeah, that might have been the
case... But now with egroups for just about everything, they sure could have
started in Square 1 and going to fan sites to see what they thought first.
****
Now I'm not saying
Sauseville WOULD have done a good job. And what I said about Eric is
correct = like it or not, he'll continue to be called in for these POTA
interviews because he's been published.
***
Well, Russo was published too and though he has actual knowledge about the
films, rather than just random interpretations of the films to equate to US
history, they barely used him... He's published, why is he regulated to second
fiddle? And how about those two other APES books from awhile back: Where are
those published authors? Why weren't they included? Their books are just as
"valid" as Greene's... Where do you draw the line? You can't have it both
ways: Either everyone that's published is an authority and deserves to be in
the extras or they don't... They pick and choose who they want for whatever
reasons, book and other credentials come in
second...***
No need for your
trying to twist that to me saying it's a good OR bad thing. I'm saying
that's how it is.
***
Who's twisting anything? If I was twisting anything, I'd say you thought
Sausville's book sucked but you thought it was a shame they didn't use him...
Now that'd be twisting
things...
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From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
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You are twisting what I’ve said and you
continue to do it.
My comment is that (good, bad, right or
wrong) Greene was sought because he’s published.
You are twisting this and concluding I’m
saying this is a great thing and all sorts of other bullshit I would never say.
You are entitled to your opinion, even
though you have not even seen all the things you are commenting on, but please
don’t put words in my mouth based on you MISunderstading
of what I am saying.
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Friday, 16 January 2009 9:16
AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando
Is Gone
In a message dated 1/15/09 3:29:55 PM
Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@ bigpond.com writes:
No need for your trying to twist that to me saying it’s a good OR
bad thing. I’m saying that’s how it is.
***
Who's twisting anything? If I was twisting anything, I'd say you thought
Sausville's book sucked but you thought it was a shame they didn't use him...
Now that'd be twisting things...
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Lots of Liberals have short hair and lots of conservatives
have long hair. I for one am glad you can't judge a book by the
cover.
What? You want everyone to look the same like a uniform?
What is this? The Planet of the Apes or something?
In a message dated 1/15/2009 3:42:57 P.M. Central Standard Time,
sallywhitty@... writes:
We all know reality
can, and often is, far from first impressions.
But it's the world we
live in. It sucks, but it's how it is and should not surprise
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Date: 1/15/2009 |
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I agree you can’t judge a book by its
cover. However I wish I’d been a bit more closed minded and realized it’s not
a great idea to trust a junkie because you can’t judge a book by its cover!
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Friday, 16 January 2009 9:47
AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando
Is Gone
Lots of Liberals have short hair and lots
of conservatives
have long hair. I for one am glad
you can't judge a book by the cover.
What? You want everyone to look the same
like a uniform?
What is this? The Planet of the
Apes or something?
In a message dated 1/15/2009 3:42:57 P.M.
Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@ bigpond.com writes:
We all know reality can, and often is, far from first impressions.
But it’s the world
we live in. It sucks, but it’s how it is and should not surprise you….
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Brian Peck is the Dr. Zauis for "Apemania".
He's an actor so he has the 'in" for stuff. He also voiced Zauis for the video
game. He also did the commentary track for the "X-Men" DVD with director Bryan
Singer, I guess because they're pals. So he gets around.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 1:29
PM
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Armando Is
Gone
Actually you are very
wrong Mike.
It would make FAR
more sense to me if they asked Sauseville questions about
collectibles.
To someone coming
into a project with limited knowledge you would SURELY look for someone who
had published a book about something before dragging someone off the
streets.
But they didnÂ’t even
ask Tim – who provided the materials! They asked Brian Peck (who I am
sure is the guy who used to sell Black and White T Shirts on
eBay..)!
Now IÂ’m not saying
Sauseville WOULD have done a good job. And what I said about Eric is
correct = like it or not, heÂ’ll continue to be called in for these POTA
interviews because heÂ’s been published.
No need for your
trying to twist that to me saying itÂ’s a good OR bad thing. IÂ’m saying
thatÂ’s how it is.
And it
is!
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
[ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of
mlccougar@aol. com Sent: Thursday, 15 January 2009 4:59
PM To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando Is
Gone
In a message dated
1/15/09 12:28:54 AM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@ bigpond.com
writes:
I guess, like it
or not, Greene is an (published) expert on apes who wrote his book WELL
before POTA became popular (again) so he will
*** I don't hear you
saying the same thing about Christopher Sausville... He wrote the APES
collectibles book and it was published WELL before APES became popular again,
yet you think his book is a joke... It's published man, that's
everything.. . Having a book out means you are the
man.***
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Date: 1/15/2009 |
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Actually it was discussed that I be on film or at least my stuff being filmed but since I live 3000 miles from LA that idea was nixed pretty quickly!
Tim
--- On Thu, 1/15/09, Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
> From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Armando Is Gone
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 4:29 PM
> Actually you are very wrong Mike.
>
>
>
> It would make FAR more sense to me if they asked Sauseville
> questions about
> collectibles.
>
>
>
> To someone coming into a project with limited knowledge you
> would SURELY
> look for someone who had published a book about something
> before dragging
> someone off the streets.
>
>
>
> But they didn't even ask Tim - who provided the
> materials! They asked Brian
> Peck (who I am sure is the guy who used to sell Black and
> White T Shirts on
> eBay..)!
>
>
>
> Now I'm not saying Sauseville WOULD have done a good
> job. And what I said
> about Eric is correct = like it or not, he'll continue
> to be called in for
> these POTA interviews because he's been published.
>
>
>
> No need for your trying to twist that to me saying it's
> a good OR bad thing.
> I'm saying that's how it is.
>
>
>
> And it is!
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> mlccougar@...
> Sent: Thursday, 15 January 2009 4:59 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando Is Gone
>
>
>
> In a message dated 1/15/09 12:28:54 AM Central Standard
> Time,
> sallywhitty@... writes:
>
> I guess, like it or not, Greene is an (published) expert on
> apes who wrote
> his book WELL before POTA became popular (again) so he will
>
>
> *** I don't hear you saying the same thing about
> Christopher Sausville... He
> wrote the APES collectibles book and it was published WELL
> before APES
> became popular again, yet you think his book is a joke...
> It's published
> man, that's everything... Having a book out means you
> are the man.*** <.html
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Date: 1/15/2009 |
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That Dr. Peck Zaius cracks me up everytime! :o)
Al
From: Jeff K. <veetus@...> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Sent:
Thursday, January 15, 2009 8:00:59 PM Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando Is Gone
Brian Peck is the Dr. Zauis for "Apemania". He's an actor so he has the 'in" for stuff. He also voiced Zauis for the video game. He also did the commentary track
for the "X-Men" DVD with director Bryan Singer, I guess because they're pals. So he gets around.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 1:29 PM
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Armando Is Gone
Actually you are very wrong Mike.
It would make FAR more sense to me if they asked Sauseville questions about collectibles.
To someone coming into a project with limited knowledge you would SURELY look for someone who had published a book about something before dragging someone off
the streets.
But they didn't even ask Tim – who provided the materials! They asked Brian Peck (who I am sure is the guy who used to sell Black and White T Shirts on
eBay..)!
Now I'm not saying Sauseville WOULD have done a good job. And what I said about Eric is correct = like it or not, he'll continue to be called in for
these POTA interviews because he's been published.
No need for your trying to twist that to me saying it's a good OR bad thing. I'm saying that's how it is.
And it is!
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com
Sent: Thursday, 15 January 2009 4:59 PM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject:
Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando Is Gone
In a message dated 1/15/09 12:28:54 AM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@
bigpond.com writes:
I guess, like it or not, Greene is an (published) expert on apes who wrote his book WELL before POTA became popular (again) so he will
*** I don't hear you saying the same thing about Christopher Sausville... He wrote the APES collectibles book and it was published WELL before APES became
popular again, yet you think his book is a joke... It's published man, that's everything.. . Having a book out means you are the man.***
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Actually I'm not sure when he played Zauis.
The Zauis at the Chambers tribute wasn't Peck and the one I saw recently wasn't.
He played him at the E2 video game con. I remember he had a Pee Wee Herman doll
as a prop because Burton was going to do POTA. I guess the Zauises switch off
depending who's available
.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 4:38
PM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando Is
Gone
That Dr. Peck Zaius cracks me up everytime! :o)
Al
From: Jeff K. <veetus@earthlink. net> To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 8:00:59
PM Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re:
Armando Is Gone
Brian Peck is the Dr. Zauis for
"Apemania". He's an actor so he has the 'in" for stuff. He also voiced Zauis
for the video game. He also did the commentary track for the "X-Men" DVD with
director Bryan Singer, I guess because they're pals. So he gets
around.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 1:29
PM
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Armando Is
Gone
Actually you are
very wrong Mike.
It would make FAR
more sense to me if they asked Sauseville questions about
collectibles.
To someone coming
into a project with limited knowledge you would SURELY look for someone who
had published a book about something before dragging someone off the
streets.
But they didn't
even ask Tim – who provided the materials! They asked Brian Peck (who
I am sure is the guy who used to sell Black and White T Shirts on
eBay..)!
Now I'm not saying
Sauseville WOULD have done a good job. And what I said about Eric is
correct = like it or not, he'll continue to be called in for these POTA
interviews because he's been published.
No need for your
trying to twist that to me saying it's a good OR bad thing. I'm saying
that's how it is.
And it
is!
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol.
com Sent: Thursday, 15
January 2009 4:59 PM To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando Is
Gone
In a message dated
1/15/09 12:28:54 AM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@ bigpond.com
writes:
I guess, like it
or not, Greene is an (published) expert on apes who wrote his book WELL
before POTA became popular (again) so he will
*** I don't hear
you saying the same thing about Christopher Sausville... He wrote the APES
collectibles book and it was published WELL before APES became popular
again, yet you think his book is a joke... It's published man, that's
everything.. . Having a book out means you are the
man.***
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I would have
thought it was enough just to get the films looking and sounding as good as they
do on Blu Ray as well as getting the unrated version of Conquest.
As usual it's just
not good enough for some Apes fans which I suppose I can understand but
personally I think we've done all right for a movie franchise that is basically
dead to the general public and has been for a long time now.
Neil
In a message dated 1/15/09 3:29:55 PM Central Standard Time,
sallywhitty@ bigpond.com writes:
Actually you are
very wrong Mike.
***
In your opinion maybe... But I'm not gonna sit back and take everything
that's spoonfed to me by FOX etc. and think "Wow, they got the best,
knowledgable people around. They are the best because of "factor X". You may
be blinded by the facts that the extras really are NOT all you (and others!)
are cracking them up to be because you're seeing them, and the way they're
put together thru "Blu-Ray colored glasses." It seems like the visual aspect
of the DVDs is blinding your judgement.
***
.
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Well from what
I've seen Russo does get just as much time as Greene on the extras. Also I think
it would help Greene being a resident of the USA, no need to fly overseas to
conduct an interview as they would have to do for someone like Pendreigh. I
suppose the same could be said for all of the contributors on the extras, as far
as I could tell they are all Americans.
Neil
In a message dated 1/15/09 3:29:55 PM Central Standard Time,
sallywhitty@ bigpond.com writes:
***
Well, Russo was published too and though he has actual knowledge about the
films, rather than just random interpretations of the films to equate to US
history, they barely used him... He's published, why is he regulated to
second fiddle? And how about those two other APES books from awhile back:
Where are those published authors? Why weren't they included? Their books
are just as "valid" as Greene's... Where do you draw the line? You
can't have it both ways: Either everyone that's published is an authority
and deserves to be in the extras or they don't... They pick and choose who
they want for whatever reasons, book and other credentials come in
second...***
.
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Date: 1/15/2009 |
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So he got laid-off?
That must have been tough. :o)
Al
From: Jeff K. <veetus@...> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Sent:
Thursday, January 15, 2009 8:23:57 PM Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando Is Gone
Actually I'm not sure when he played Zauis. The Zauis at the Chambers tribute wasn't Peck and the one I saw recently wasn't. He played him at the E2 video game con. I
remember he had a Pee Wee Herman doll as a prop because Burton was going to do POTA. I guess the Zauises switch off depending who's available
.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando Is Gone
That Dr. Peck Zaius cracks me up everytime! :o)
Al
From: Jeff K. <veetus@earthlink. net> To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 8:00:59 PM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando Is Gone
Brian Peck is the Dr. Zauis for "Apemania". He's an actor so he has the 'in" for stuff. He also voiced Zauis for the video game. He also did the commentary track
for the "X-Men" DVD with director Bryan Singer, I guess because they're pals. So he gets around.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 1:29 PM
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Armando Is Gone
Actually you are very wrong Mike.
It would make FAR more sense to me if they asked Sauseville questions about collectibles.
To someone coming into a project with limited knowledge you would SURELY look for someone who had published a book about something before dragging someone off
the streets..
But they didn't even ask Tim – who provided the materials! They asked Brian Peck (who I am sure is the guy who used to sell Black and White T Shirts on
eBay..)!
Now I'm not saying Sauseville WOULD have done a good job. And what I said about Eric is correct = like it or not, he'll continue to be called in for
these POTA interviews because he's been published..
No need for your trying to twist that to me saying it's a good OR bad thing. I'm saying that's how it is.
And it is!
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com
Sent: Thursday, 15 January 2009 4:59 PM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject:
Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando Is Gone
In a message dated 1/15/09 12:28:54 AM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@
bigpond.com writes:
I guess, like it or not, Greene is an (published) expert on apes who wrote his book WELL before POTA became popular (again) so he will
*** I don't hear you saying the same thing about Christopher Sausville... He wrote the APES collectibles book and it was published WELL before APES became
popular again, yet you think his book is a joke... It's published man, that's everything.. . Having a book out means you are the man.***
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but Brian WAS Dr Zaius for
a short time then he was Julius. he doesn't do the reenactments now.
Dr Zaius is Laird McIntosh, I think.
Jeff B
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 4:38
PM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando Is
Gone
That Dr. Peck Zaius cracks me up everytime! :o)
Al
From: Jeff K. <veetus@earthlink. net> To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 8:00:59
PM Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re:
Armando Is Gone
Brian Peck is the Dr. Zauis for
"Apemania". He's an actor so he has the 'in" for stuff. He also voiced Zauis
for the video game. He also did the commentary track for the "X-Men" DVD with
director Bryan Singer, I guess because they're pals. So he gets
around.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 1:29
PM
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Armando Is
Gone
Actually you are
very wrong Mike.
It would make FAR
more sense to me if they asked Sauseville questions about
collectibles.
To someone coming
into a project with limited knowledge you would SURELY look for someone who
had published a book about something before dragging someone off the
streets.
But they didn't
even ask Tim – who provided the materials! They asked Brian Peck (who
I am sure is the guy who used to sell Black and White T Shirts on
eBay..)!
Now I'm not saying
Sauseville WOULD have done a good job. And what I said about Eric is
correct = like it or not, he'll continue to be called in for these POTA
interviews because he's been published.
No need for your
trying to twist that to me saying it's a good OR bad thing. I'm saying
that's how it is.
And it
is!
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol.
com Sent: Thursday, 15
January 2009 4:59 PM To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando Is
Gone
In a message dated
1/15/09 12:28:54 AM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@ bigpond.com
writes:
I guess, like it
or not, Greene is an (published) expert on apes who wrote his book WELL
before POTA became popular (again) so he will
*** I don't hear
you saying the same thing about Christopher Sausville... He wrote the APES
collectibles book and it was published WELL before APES became popular
again, yet you think his book is a joke... It's published man, that's
everything.. . Having a book out means you are the
man.***
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From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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Well there you go Jeff – I had no
idea!
He used to be a member of wither this or
another YAHOO! Group right?
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Friday, 16 January 2009
11:01 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando
Is Gone
Brian Peck is the Dr. Zauis for "Apemania".
He's an actor so he has the 'in" for stuff. He also voiced Zauis for the
video game. He also did the commentary track for the "X-Men" DVD with
director Bryan Singer, I guess because they're pals. So he gets around.
----- Original Message -----
Sent:
Thursday, January
15, 2009 1:29 PM
Subject:
RE: [PotaDG] Re:
Armando Is Gone
Actually you are very wrong Mike.
It would make FAR more sense to me if they asked Sauseville
questions about collectibles.
To someone coming into a project with limited knowledge you
would SURELY look for someone who had published a book about something before
dragging someone off the streets.
But they didn’t even ask Tim – who provided the
materials! They asked Brian Peck (who I am sure is the guy who used to
sell Black and White T Shirts on eBay..)!
Now I’m not saying Sauseville WOULD have done a good
job. And what I said about Eric is correct = like it or not, he’ll
continue to be called in for these POTA interviews because he’s been
published.
No need for your trying to twist that to me saying
it’s a good OR bad thing. I’m saying that’s how it is.
And it is!
Michael
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
[ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ]
On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com
Sent: Thursday, 15 January 2009
4:59 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando
Is Gone
In a message dated 1/15/09 12:28:54 AM Central Standard Time,
sallywhitty@ bigpond.com writes:
I guess, like it or not, Greene is an (published) expert on apes
who wrote his book WELL before POTA became popular (again) so he will
*** I don't hear you saying the same thing about Christopher
Sausville... He wrote the APES collectibles book and it was published WELL
before APES became popular again, yet you think his book is a joke... It's
published man, that's everything.. . Having a book out means you are the
man.***
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Message: 50261 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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OK now I’m confused – Tim, I
thought you were NEAR LA?
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Friday, 16 January 2009
10:35 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Armando
Is Gone
Actually it was discussed that I be on film or at
least my stuff being filmed but since I live 3000 miles from LA that idea was
nixed pretty quickly!
Tim
--- On Thu, 1/15/09, Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@ bigpond.com>
wrote:
> From: Michael & Sally Whitty < href="mailto:sallywhitty%40bigpond.com">sallywhitty@ bigpond.com>
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Armando Is Gone
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 4:29 PM
> Actually you are very wrong Mike.
>
>
>
> It would make FAR more sense to me if they asked Sauseville
> questions about
> collectibles.
>
>
>
> To someone coming into a project with limited knowledge you
> would SURELY
> look for someone who had published a book about something
> before dragging
> someone off the streets.
>
>
>
> But they didn't even ask Tim - who provided the
> materials! They asked Brian
> Peck (who I am sure is the guy who used to sell Black and
> White T Shirts on
> eBay..)!
>
>
>
> Now I'm not saying Sauseville WOULD have done a good
> job. And what I said
> about Eric is correct = like it or not, he'll continue
> to be called in for
> these POTA interviews because he's been published.
>
>
>
> No need for your trying to twist that to me saying it's
> a good OR bad thing.
> I'm saying that's how it is.
>
>
>
> And it is!
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com]
On Behalf Of
> mlccougar@aol. com
> Sent: Thursday, 15 January 2009 4:59 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando Is Gone
>
>
>
> In a message dated 1/15/09 12:28:54 AM Central Standard
> Time,
> sallywhitty@ bigpond.com
writes:
>
> I guess, like it or not, Greene is an (published) expert on
> apes who wrote
> his book WELL before POTA became popular (again) so he will
>
>
> *** I don't hear you saying the same thing about
> Christopher Sausville... He
> wrote the APES collectibles book and it was published WELL
> before APES
> became popular again, yet you think his book is a joke...
> It's published
> man, that's everything.. . Having a book out means you
> are the man.***
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From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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No pecker jokes please! ;)
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Alex Ruiz
Sent: Friday, 16 January 2009
10:38 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando
Is Gone
That Dr. Peck Zaius cracks me up everytime! :o)
From:
Jeff K.
<veetus@earthlink. net>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009
8:00:59 PM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando
Is Gone
Brian Peck is the Dr. Zauis for "Apemania".
He's an actor so he has the 'in" for stuff. He also voiced Zauis for the
video game. He also did the commentary track for the "X-Men" DVD with
director Bryan Singer, I guess because they're pals. So he gets around.
----- Original Message -----
Sent:
Thursday, January
15, 2009 1:29 PM
Subject:
RE: [PotaDG] Re:
Armando Is Gone
Actually you are very wrong Mike.
It would make FAR more sense to me if they asked Sauseville
questions about collectibles.
To someone coming into a project with limited knowledge you would
SURELY look for someone who had published a book about something before
dragging someone off the streets.
But they didn’t even ask Tim – who provided the materials!
They asked Brian Peck (who I am sure is the guy who used to sell Black and
White T Shirts on eBay..)!
Now I’m not saying Sauseville WOULD have done a good job. And
what I said about Eric is correct = like it or not, he’ll continue to be called
in for these POTA interviews because he’s been published.
No need for your trying to twist that to me saying it’s a good OR
bad thing. I’m saying that’s how it is.
And it is!
Michael
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol.
com
Sent: Thursday, 15 January 2009
4:59 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando
Is Gone
In a message dated 1/15/09 12:28:54 AM Central Standard Time,
sallywhitty@ bigpond.com
writes:
I guess, like it or not, Greene is an (published) expert on apes
who wrote his book WELL before POTA became popular (again) so he will
*** I don't hear you saying the same thing about Christopher
Sausville... He wrote the APES collectibles book and it was published WELL
before APES became popular again, yet you think his book is a joke... It's
published man, that's everything.. . Having a book out means you are the
man.***
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Message: 50263 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: We POTA fans are doing all right! |
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Yeah that’s what I would have
thought!
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Friday, 16 January 2009
11:02 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Armando
Is Gone
I would have thought it was enough just to get the films
looking and sounding as good as they do on Blu Ray as well as getting the
unrated version of Conquest.
As usual it's just not good enough for some Apes fans
which I suppose I can understand but personally I think we've done all right
for a movie franchise that is basically dead to the general public and has been
for a long time now.
Neil
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
[ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ]
On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009
9:16 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando
Is Gone
In a message dated 1/15/09 3:29:55 PM
Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@ bigpond.com writes:
Actually you are very wrong Mike.
***
In your opinion maybe... But I'm not gonna sit back and take everything that's
spoonfed to me by FOX etc. and think "Wow, they got the best, knowledgable
people around. They are the best because of "factor X". You may be
blinded by the facts that the extras really are NOT all you (and others!) are
cracking them up to be because you're seeing them, and the way they're put
together thru "Blu-Ray colored glasses." It seems like the visual
aspect of the DVDs is blinding your judgement. ***

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Date: 1/15/2009 |
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Well, except Boulle’s
daughter! J
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Friday, 16 January 2009
11:07 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Armando
Is Gone
Well from what I've seen Russo does get just as much time
as Greene on the extras. Also I think it would help Greene being a resident of
the USA ,
no need to fly overseas to conduct an interview as they would have to do for
someone like Pendreigh. I suppose the same could be said for all of the
contributors on the extras, as far as I could tell they are all Americans.
Neil
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
[ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ]
On Behalf Of mlccougar@aol. com
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009
9:16 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando
Is Gone
In a message dated 1/15/09 3:29:55 PM
Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@ bigpond.com writes:
***
Well, Russo was published too and though he has actual knowledge about the
films, rather than just random interpretations of the films to equate to
US history,
they barely used him... He's published, why is he regulated to second fiddle?
And how about those two other APES books from awhile back: Where are those
published authors? Why weren't they included? Their books are just as
"valid" as Greene's... Where do you draw the line? You can't
have it both ways: Either everyone that's published is an authority and
deserves to be in the extras or they don't... They pick and choose who they
want for whatever reasons, book and other credentials come in second...***

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Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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In a message dated 1/15/09 3:37:48 PM Central Standard Time,
sallywhitty@... writes:
I just don't get all
the negativity!
*** All I'm complaining about is this: We've pretty much seen everything
they gave us as extras on the Blu-Ray set on BEHIND... They have so much to
choose from and yet we've been dealt repeats... What I wanted was a Lou Wagner,
Buck Kartalian, Mort Abrahams, and Linda Harrison commentary for PLANET, but
from what I understand, all we got was the same laughable audio snippets
"commentaries" we got on the 35th Anniversary DVD... That's what I'm negative
about... *** <.html
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Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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In a message dated 1/15/09 3:38:52 PM Central Standard Time,
sallywhitty@... writes:
OK – so what's the
point at which you say "hey, I'm satisfied with what they've
done!".
*** With the bulk of high profile APES stars dead, at this point I won't be
able to say it, unless they secretly got commentaries of them watching the
films... That's what they should have done when they had the chance, but now
that will never happen... At best for the 50th, we'd might be
able to squeeze out a somewhat passable commentary for BATTLE with Natalie
Trundy, Bobby Porter, Austin Stoker, Paul Williams provided they're all alive...
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Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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In a message dated 1/15/09 5:39:22 PM Central Standard Time,
sallywhitty@... writes:
My comment is that
(good, bad, right or wrong) Greene was sought because he's
published.
*** And that is true... However, since 1998 and the 30th Anniversary, more
books have been published and those authors may have something worth hearing...
All I'm saying is that Greene is not the only choice out there now and they
could have easily chose one of the others to give a (possibly) different
prospective. They could have easily sought out one of the others if an author is
what they wanted. *** <.html
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Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Peck's Bad Boy |
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No, I don't think Peck was a member of these
groups. I knew him back in the day. He's pals with the POTA2001 producer and was
an ape extra on that too. And an extra in "X-Men" (he's eating a hot dog next to
Stan Lee when Bruce Davidson washes up on shore).
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 6:12
PM
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Armando Is
Gone
Well there you go
Jeff – I had no idea!
He used to be a
member of wither this or another YAHOO! Group right?
Brian Peck is the Dr. Zauis
for "Apemania". He's an actor so he has the 'in" for stuff. He also voiced
Zauis for the video game. He also did the commentary track for the "X-Men" DVD
with director Bryan Singer, I guess because they're pals. So he gets
around.
----- Original Message -----
Sent:
Thursday, January 15, 2009 1:29 PM
Subject:
RE:
[PotaDG] Re: Armando Is Gone
Actually you are
very wrong Mike.
It would
make FAR more sense to me if they asked Sauseville questions about
collectibles.
To someone
coming into a project with limited knowledge you would SURELY look for
someone who had published a book about something before dragging someone off
the streets.
But they
didn’t even ask Tim – who provided the materials! They asked Brian
Peck (who I am sure is the guy who used to sell Black and White T Shirts on
eBay..)!
Now IÂ’m not
saying Sauseville WOULD have done a good job. And what I said about
Eric is correct = like it or not, heÂ’ll continue to be called in for these
POTA interviews because heÂ’s been published.
No need for
your trying to twist that to me saying itÂ’s a good OR bad thing. IÂ’m
saying thatÂ’s how it is.
And it
is!
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
[ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of
mlccougar@aol. com Sent: Thursday, 15 January 2009 4:59
PM To:
PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando Is
Gone
In a message dated
1/15/09 12:28:54 AM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@ bigpond.com
writes:
I guess, like it
or not, Greene is an (published) expert on apes who wrote his book WELL
before POTA became popular (again) so he will
*** I don't hear
you saying the same thing about Christopher Sausville... He wrote the APES
collectibles book and it was published WELL before APES became popular
again, yet you think his book is a joke... It's published man, that's
everything.. . Having a book out means you are the
man.***
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Message: 50269 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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In a message dated 1/15/09 7:02:03 PM Central Standard Time,
ntfoster@... writes:
I would have thought it was
enough just to get the films looking and sounding as good as they do on Blu
Ray as well as getting the unrated version of Conquest.
*** And normally that would have been enough... Like I said, from what
I could tell, they acted like they were going all out on the extras to make it
really something and from everything I've seen on them, they fell short and they
basically retreaded the stuff from BEHIND... Had they NOT hyped them so much, it
wouldn't have mattered... *** <.html
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Message: 50270 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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I'm just glad we got "Behind the POTA".
That's a gem. Who's left from that? 4 people?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 7:51
PM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando Is
Gone
OK – so what's the
point at which you say "hey, I'm satisfied with what they've
done!".
*** With the bulk of high profile APES stars dead, at this point I won't
be able to say it, unless they secretly got commentaries of them watching the
films... That's what they should have done when they had the chance, but now
that will never happen... At best for the 50th, we'd might be
able to squeeze out a somewhat passable commentary for BATTLE with Natalie
Trundy, Bobby Porter, Austin Stoker, Paul Williams provided they're all
alive... ***
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50271 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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In a message dated 1/15/09 10:06:41 PM Central Standard Time,
veetus@... writes:
I'm just
glad we got "Behind the POTA". That's a gem. Who's left from that? 4 people?
*** Agreed, BEHIND was good... I doubt we'll ever see them, but the
complete interviews from that would be cool.. *** <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50272 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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I think the Ted Post commentary is more a
case of the wrong people being approached and the difficulties that might come
from his surviving relatives.
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Friday, 16 January 2009 1:51
PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando
Is Gone
In a message dated 1/15/09 3:38:52 PM
Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@ bigpond.com writes:
OK – so what’s the point at which you say
“hey, I’m satisfied with what they’ve done!”.
*** With the bulk of high profile APES
stars dead, at this point I won't be able to say it, unless they secretly got
commentaries of them watching the films... That's what they should have done
when they had the chance, but now that will never happen... At best for the
50th, we'd might
be able to squeeze out a somewhat passable commentary for BATTLE with Natalie
Trundy, Bobby Porter, Austin Stoker, Paul Williams provided they're all
alive... ***
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50273 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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Yup – I forgot to mention (as Tim said)
the price is right too (ie zero dollars).
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Friday, 16 January 2009 1:57
PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando
Is Gone
In a message dated 1/15/09 5:39:22 PM
Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@ bigpond.com writes:
My comment is that (good, bad, right or
wrong) Greene was sought because he’s published.
*** And that is true... However, since
1998 and the 30th Anniversary, more books have been published and those authors
may have something worth hearing... All I'm saying is that Greene is not the
only choice out there now and they could have easily chose one of the others to
give a (possibly) different prospective. They could have easily sought out one
of the others if an author is what they wanted. ***
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50274 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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*** I thought Ted Post was still alive? Krueger?***
In a message dated 1/15/09 11:06:00 PM Central Standard Time,
sallywhitty@... writes:
I think the Ted Post
commentary is more a case of the wrong people being approached and the
difficulties that might come from his surviving
relatives.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50275 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/15/2009 |
| Subject: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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Crikey! You are right – alive and
91 years old this year!
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Friday, 16 January 2009 3:10
PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando
Is Gone
*** I thought Ted Post was still alive?
Krueger?***
In a message dated 1/15/09 11:06:00 PM
Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@ bigpond.com writes:
I think the Ted Post commentary is more a case of the wrong people
being approached and the difficulties that might come from his surviving
relatives.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50276 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
.htmlNope! I'm in North Carolina! Opposite coast!
--- On Thu, 1/15/09, Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
> From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Armando Is Gone
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 9:12 PM
> OK now I'm confused - Tim, I thought you were NEAR LA?
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Tim "apefan"
> Sent: Friday, 16 January 2009 10:35 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Armando Is Gone
>
>
>
> Actually it was discussed that I be on film or at least my
> stuff being
> filmed but since I live 3000 miles from LA that idea was
> nixed pretty
> quickly!
>
> Tim
>
> --- On Thu, 1/15/09, Michael & Sally Whitty
> <sallywhitty@
> <mailto:sallywhitty%40bigpond.com> bigpond.com>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@
> <mailto:sallywhitty%40bigpond.com> bigpond.com>
> > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Armando Is Gone
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.
> <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 4:29 PM
> > Actually you are very wrong Mike.
> >
> >
> >
> > It would make FAR more sense to me if they asked
> Sauseville
> > questions about
> > collectibles.
> >
> >
> >
> > To someone coming into a project with limited
> knowledge you
> > would SURELY
> > look for someone who had published a book about
> something
> > before dragging
> > someone off the streets.
> >
> >
> >
> > But they didn't even ask Tim - who provided the
> > materials! They asked Brian
> > Peck (who I am sure is the guy who used to sell Black
> and
> > White T Shirts on
> > eBay..)!
> >
> >
> >
> > Now I'm not saying Sauseville WOULD have done a
> good
> > job. And what I said
> > about Eric is correct = like it or not, he'll
> continue
> > to be called in for
> > these POTA interviews because he's been published.
> >
> >
> >
> > No need for your trying to twist that to me saying
> it's
> > a good OR bad thing.
> > I'm saying that's how it is.
> >
> >
> >
> > And it is!
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.
> <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > [PotaDG@yahoogroups.
> <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com] On
> Behalf Of
> > mlccougar@aol. <mailto:mlccougar%40aol.com> com
> > Sent: Thursday, 15 January 2009 4:59 PM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.
> <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando Is Gone
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 1/15/09 12:28:54 AM Central
> Standard
> > Time,
> > sallywhitty@ <mailto:sallywhitty%40bigpond.com>
> bigpond.com writes:
> >
> > I guess, like it or not, Greene is an (published)
> expert on
> > apes who wrote
> > his book WELL before POTA became popular (again) so he
> will
> >
> >
> > *** I don't hear you saying the same thing about
> > Christopher Sausville... He
> > wrote the APES collectibles book and it was published
> WELL
> > before APES
> > became popular again, yet you think his book is a
> joke...
> > It's published
> > man, that's everything... Having a book out means
> you
> > are the man.*** <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50277 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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Just off the top of my head who's gone since
"Behind": Heston, Roddy, Kim, J. Lee, Don Taylor, Frank Capra Jr., John
Chambers, Ricardo.
Still kicking: Natalie, Linda, Mort, Zanuck,
Ted Post, Eric Greene... is that everybody? About half are
gone.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 9:16
PM
Subject: [PotaDG] Armando Is Gone - BUT
TED IS HERE!
Crikey! You are
right – alive and 91 years old this year!
*** I thought Ted
Post was still alive? Krueger?***
In a message dated
1/15/09 11:06:00 PM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@ bigpond.com
writes:
I think the Ted
Post commentary is more a case of the wrong people being approached and the
difficulties that might come from his surviving
relatives.
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Message: 50278 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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In a message dated 1/16/09 12:12:52 AM Central Standard Time,
veetus@... writes:
Still
kicking: Natalie, Linda, Mort, Zanuck, Ted Post, Eric Greene... is that
everybody?
*** Naughton too... *** <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50279 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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Dude – and you’re an actor! I
just assumed….sorry!
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Friday, 16 January 2009 4:11
PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Armando
Is Gone
Nope! I'm in North
Carolina ! Opposite coast!
--- On Thu, 1/15/09, Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@ bigpond.com>
wrote:
> From: Michael & Sally Whitty < href="mailto:sallywhitty%40bigpond.com">sallywhitty@ bigpond.com>
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Armando Is Gone
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 9:12 PM
> OK now I'm confused - Tim, I thought you were NEAR LA?
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com]
On Behalf Of
> Tim "apefan"
> Sent: Friday, 16 January 2009 10:35 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Armando Is Gone
>
>
>
> Actually it was discussed that I be on film or at least my
> stuff being
> filmed but since I live 3000 miles from LA that idea was
> nixed pretty
> quickly!
>
> Tim
>
> --- On Thu, 1/15/09, Michael & Sally Whitty
> <sallywhitty@
> <mailto:sallywhitty %40bigpond. com> bigpond.com>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@
> <mailto:sallywhitty %40bigpond. com> bigpond.com>
> > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Armando Is Gone
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.
> <mailto:PotaDG% 40yahoogroups. com> com
> > Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 4:29 PM
> > Actually you are very wrong Mike.
> >
> >
> >
> > It would make FAR more sense to me if they asked
> Sauseville
> > questions about
> > collectibles.
> >
> >
> >
> > To someone coming into a project with limited
> knowledge you
> > would SURELY
> > look for someone who had published a book about
> something
> > before dragging
> > someone off the streets.
> >
> >
> >
> > But they didn't even ask Tim - who provided the
> > materials! They asked Brian
> > Peck (who I am sure is the guy who used to sell Black
> and
> > White T Shirts on
> > eBay..)!
> >
> >
> >
> > Now I'm not saying Sauseville WOULD have done a
> good
> > job. And what I said
> > about Eric is correct = like it or not, he'll
> continue
> > to be called in for
> > these POTA interviews because he's been published.
> >
> >
> >
> > No need for your trying to twist that to me saying
> it's
> > a good OR bad thing.
> > I'm saying that's how it is.
> >
> >
> >
> > And it is!
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.
> <mailto:PotaDG% 40yahoogroups. com> com
> > [PotaDG@ yahoogroups.
> <mailto:PotaDG% 40yahoogroups. com> com] On
> Behalf Of
> > mlccougar@aol. <mailto:mlccougar% 40aol.com> com
> > Sent: Thursday, 15 January 2009 4:59 PM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.
> <mailto:PotaDG% 40yahoogroups. com> com
> > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando Is Gone
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 1/15/09 12:28:54 AM Central
> Standard
> > Time,
> > sallywhitty@ <mailto:sallywhitty %40bigpond. com>
> bigpond.com writes:
> >
> > I guess, like it or not, Greene is an (published)
> expert on
> > apes who wrote
> > his book WELL before POTA became popular (again) so he
> will
> >
> >
> > *** I don't hear you saying the same thing about
> > Christopher Sausville... He
> > wrote the APES collectibles book and it was published
> WELL
> > before APES
> > became popular again, yet you think his book is a
> joke...
> > It's published
> > man, that's everything.. . Having a book out means
> you
> > are the man.***
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50280 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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Glad you mentioned Eric….of shit here
comes Cougar! J
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Friday, 16 January 2009 4:39
PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Armando Is
Gone - BUT TED IS HERE!
Just off the top of my head who's gone since
"Behind": Heston, Roddy, Kim, J. Lee, Don Taylor, Frank Capra Jr.,
John Chambers, Ricardo.
Still kicking: Natalie, Linda, Mort, Zanuck, Ted Post,
Eric Greene... is that everybody? About half are gone.
----- Original Message -----
Sent:
Thursday, January
15, 2009 9:16 PM
Subject:
[PotaDG] Armando
Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE!
Crikey! You are right – alive and 91 years old this
year!
*** I thought Ted Post was still alive? Krueger?***
In a message dated 1/15/09 11:06:00 PM Central
Standard Time, sallywhitty@ bigpond.com writes:
I think the Ted Post commentary is more a case of the wrong people
being approached and the difficulties that might come from his surviving
relatives.
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Message: 50281 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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Is Mort Abrahams in any of the blu-ray
stuff? I guess he'd have to be in the "Beneath" section, since he wasn't in the
one for "Planet" (even though they dealt with the development). They went to his
house to film him because he's in poor health.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 10:38
PM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Armando Is Gone -
BUT TED IS HERE!
Just off the top of my head who's gone
since "Behind": Heston, Roddy, Kim, J. Lee, Don Taylor, Frank Capra Jr., John
Chambers, Ricardo.
Still kicking: Natalie, Linda, Mort,
Zanuck, Ted Post, Eric Greene... is that everybody? About half are
gone.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 9:16
PM
Subject: [PotaDG] Armando Is Gone - BUT
TED IS HERE!
Crikey! You
are right – alive and 91 years old this year!
*** I thought Ted
Post was still alive? Krueger?***
In a message dated
1/15/09 11:06:00 PM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@ bigpond.com
writes:
I think the Ted
Post commentary is more a case of the wrong people being approached and
the difficulties that might come from his surviving
relatives.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50282 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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True
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Friday, 16 January 2009 4:14
PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Armando Is
Gone - BUT TED IS HERE!
In a message dated 1/16/09 12:12:52 AM
Central Standard Time, veetus@earthlink. net writes:
Still kicking: Natalie, Linda, Mort,
Zanuck, Ted Post, Eric Greene... is that everybody?
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50283 |
From: Jeff K. |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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Still, it's over half who are gone. And
about half of that checked out soon after: Roddy, Kim, Don Taylor, John
Chambers. So that was destiny. I say DESTINY!
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 10:14
PM
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Armando Is Gone -
BUT TED IS HERE!
Still
kicking: Natalie, Linda, Mort, Zanuck, Ted Post, Eric Greene... is that
everybody?
*** Naughton too... ***
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50284 |
From: Hunter Goatley |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: New on Hunter's site.... |
.htmlBack with a vengeance. ;-)
Jeff (RedSpy) has contributed two PotA articles from THE MONSTER
TIMES, along with a magazine photo of Forrest Ackermann kissing Paula
Christ, as Zira, while Bill Blake, as Cornelius, looks on.
Tim Parati has contributed large versions of the 5 Japanese stills he
won on eBay.
https://pota.goatley.com/
Hunter <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50285 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: New on Hunter's site.... |
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Great stuff – thanks to everyone
involved!
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Hunter Goatley
Sent: Friday, 16 January 2009
10:00 PM
To: pota@yahoogroups.com
Cc: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ;
friends_and_fugitives@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] New on Hunter's
site....
Back with
a vengeance. ;-)
Jeff (RedSpy) has contributed two PotA articles from THE MONSTER
TIMES, along with a magazine photo of Forrest Ackermann kissing Paula
Christ, as Zira, while Bill Blake, as Cornelius, looks on.
Tim Parati has contributed large versions of the 5 Japanese stills he
won on eBay.
https://pota. goatley.com/
Hunter
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50286 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
.htmlhere's a list I put together of POTA actors still with us...accroding to IMDB anyway.....
James Whitmore
Linda Harrison
Lou Wagner
Buck Kartalian
Wright King
Natalie Trundy
David Watson
Don Pedro Colley
Gregory Sierra
Eldon Burke
Bradford Dillman
Eric Braeden
William Windom
M. Emmet Walsh
Tom Lowell "Orderly"
Asa Maynor "Mrs. Riley"
H.M. Wynant "Hoskyns"
Paul Williams
Austin Stoker
Noah Keen
France Nuyen
Heather Lowe
Michael Stearns "Jake"
Colleen Camp
--- On Fri, 1/16/09, mlccougar@... <mlccougar@...
> wrote:
> From: mlccougar@... <mlccougar@...>
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE!
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 1:14 AM
> In a message dated 1/16/09 12:12:52 AM Central Standard
> Time,
> veetus@... writes:
>
> Still kicking: Natalie, Linda, Mort, Zanuck, Ted Post,
> Eric Greene... is
> that everybody?
>
>
> *** Naughton too... ***
> **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50287 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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*** Bill Creber is still around too isn't he... So add him to the
survivors list. ***
In a message dated 1/16/09 10:54:16 AM Central Standard Time,
apefan23@... writes:
> In
a message dated 1/16/09 12:12:52 AM Central Standard Time, >
veetus@... writes: > > Still kicking: Natalie,
Linda, Mort, Zanuck, Ted Post, Eric Greene... is that everybody?
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50288 |
From: TZer0@aol.com |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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Never Trust A Hippy?
You and Neil having problems?
Or have you gone Punk Rock?
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50289 |
From: Tim "apefan" |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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.html Here's a list of POTA TV actors still around:
Interesting note....Meegan King who played Gregar in "The Horse Race" is the son of Wright "Dr. Galen" King! Is this the only two generation pair? We've got James and David Naughton who are
brothers.....
Ron Harper
James Naughton
Ron Stein (Gorilla)
Booth Colman
Jacqueline Scott
Martin E. Brooks
Pat Renella
Biff Elliot
Nick Dimitri
William Smith "Tolar"
Marc Singer
Norman Alden
Cindy Eilbacher "Lisa Miller"
Eileen Dietz "Jillia"
John Garwood (Gorilla)
Fred Lerner (Gorilla)
Zina Bethune "Arn"
Jackie Earle Haley
Robert Phillips (Gorilla)
Jay Robinson "Bandor"
Jim Storm "Romar"
Jamie Smith-Jackson "Girl in Surgeon"
David Naughton
Jane Actman "Fauna"
Morgan Woodward "Martin"
Richard Devon "Zandar"
Meegan King "Gregor in Horse Race" ** SON OF WRIGHT KING!
Lee Delano (Gorilla)
Lynn Benisch "Susan in Interrogation"
Joseph Ruskin "Daku in Tyrant"
James Daughton "Mikal" **Greg from Animal House!
Klair Bybee "Sam in Tyrant"
Sondra Locke
David Sheiner "Zoran"
Jennifer Ashley "Talia in Liberator"
Joanna Barnes "Karsia"
Frank Aletter "Leuric" <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50290 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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In a message dated 1/16/09 11:30:26 AM Central Standard Time,
apefan23@... writes:
Here's a
list of POTA TV actors still around:
*** That list should include Eldon Burke too... He's one of the guys that
was in the films and the TV series. *** <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50291 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Ploog and Apes and Stuff. |
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Message
Being the fan of
Mike Ploog that I am, I just received my copy of Modern Masters (volume 19)
featuring Mike Ploog. Great interview with the man which does touch on his
Planet of the Apes work and includes plenty of artwork including one of the
Terror pencil pages without the text etc.
The Special Thanks
section names a Dave Ballard and a John Roche! Now I'm sure I've heard those
names somewhere else before... ;-)
Neil
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50292 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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Message
And then not much
else by the looks of it!
Neil
In a message dated 1/16/09 11:30:26 AM Central Standard Time,
apefan23@yahoo. com writes:
Here's a list of
POTA TV actors still around:
*** That list should include Eldon Burke too... He's one of the guys that
was in the films and the TV series. ***
.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50293 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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In a message dated 1/16/09 3:23:36 PM Central Standard Time,
ntfoster@... writes:
And then not much else by
the looks of it!
*** I haven't checked out his credits on IMDB, but I thought Eldon
Burke was busy in films as a stuntman (I think in SCROLLS Ron Harper
said he seen him recently and that he thought he had just retired?)
*** <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50294 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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Okay. It's just
that on IMDB.com they have him doing nothing after about 1978. I thought that
didn't sound right seeing as he's not dead.
Neil
In a message dated 1/16/09 3:23:36 PM Central Standard Time,
ntfoster@bigpond. com writes:
And then not much else by
the looks of it!
*** I haven't checked out his credits on IMDB, but I thought
Eldon Burke was busy in films as a stuntman (I think in SCROLLS Ron
Harper said he seen him recently and that he thought he had just
retired?)
***
.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50295 |
From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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In a message dated 1/16/09 3:30:48 PM Central Standard Time,
ntfoster@... writes:
Okay. It's just that on
IMDB.com they have him doing nothing after about 1978. I thought that didn't
sound right seeing as he's not dead.
*** Oh, I didn't doubt anything like that... IMDB is a good site to
have, but it seems like maybe they don't always update it? Or maybe Eldon really
didn't do anything film-wise past ' 78 and went into "mainstream" work?
*** <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50296 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
.html.html
Hey you forgot Michael Clarke Duncan, Tim
Roth……..
JUST KIDDING!!!!
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Saturday, 17 January 2009
2:54 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Armando Is
Gone - BUT TED IS HERE!
here's a list I put together of POTA actors still with
us...accroding to IMDB anyway.....
James Whitmore
Linda Harrison
Lou Wagner
Buck Kartalian
Wright King
Natalie Trundy
David Watson
Don Pedro Colley
Gregory Sierra
Eldon Burke
Bradford Dillman
Eric Braeden
William Windom
M. Emmet Walsh
Tom Lowell “Orderly”
Asa Maynor “Mrs. Riley”
H.M. Wynant “Hoskyns”
Paul Williams
Austin Stoker
Noah Keen
France
Nuyen
Heather Lowe
Michael Stearns “Jake”
Colleen Camp
--- On Fri, 1/16/09, mlccougar@aol. com
<mlccougar@aol. com> wrote:
> From: mlccougar@aol. com <
href="mailto:mlccougar%40aol.com">mlccougar@aol. com>
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE!
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Date: Friday, January 16, 2009, 1:14 AM
> In a message dated 1/16/09 12:12:52 AM Central Standard
> Time,
> veetus@earthlink. net
writes:
>
> Still kicking: Natalie, Linda, Mort, Zanuck, Ted Post,
> Eric Greene... is
> that everybody?
>
>
> *** Naughton too... ***
> ************ **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See
> yours in just 2 easy
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50297 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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He is, and he does seem to recall plenty so
he’s well and truly on my list.
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Saturday, 17 January 2009
2:59 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Armando Is
Gone - BUT TED IS HERE!
*** Bill Creber is still
around too isn't he... So add him to the survivors list. ***
In a message dated 1/16/09 10:54:16 AM
Central Standard Time, apefan23@yahoo. com writes:
> In a message dated 1/16/09 12:12:52
AM Central Standard Time,
> veetus@earthlink. net writes:
>
> Still kicking: Natalie, Linda, Mort, Zanuck, Ted Post, Eric
Greene... is that everybody?
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50298 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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No – just using an example.
I did once trust a junkie and was a
business partner with him. I recall my open mindedness at the time which
I now re-name as stupidity!
Neil and I are fine – apologies for
those hoping for anything else! J
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Saturday, 17 January 2009
3:01 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Armando
Is Gone
You and Neil having problems?
Or have you gone Punk Rock?
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50299 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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DAVID Naughton? What did he do Tim?
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Saturday, 17 January 2009
3:30 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Armando Is
Gone - BUT TED IS HERE!
Here's a list of POTA TV actors still around:
Interesting note....Meegan King who played Gregar in "The Horse Race"
is the son of Wright "Dr. Galen" King! Is this the only two
generation pair? We've got James and David Naughton who are brothers.... .
Ron Harper
James Naughton
Ron Stein (Gorilla)
Booth Colman
Jacqueline Scott
Martin E. Brooks
Pat Renella
Biff Elliot
Nick Dimitri
William Smith “Tolar”
Marc Singer
Norman Alden
Cindy Eilbacher “Lisa Miller”
Eileen Dietz “Jillia”
John Garwood (Gorilla)
Fred Lerner (Gorilla)
Zina Bethune “Arn”
Jackie Earle Haley
Robert Phillips (Gorilla)
Jay Robinson “Bandor”
Jim Storm “Romar”
Jamie Smith-Jackson “Girl in Surgeon”
David Naughton
Jane Actman “Fauna”
Morgan Woodward “Martin”
Richard Devon “Zandar”
Meegan King “Gregor in Horse Race” ** SON OF WRIGHT KING!
Lee Delano (Gorilla)
Lynn Benisch “Susan in Interrogation”
Joseph Ruskin “Daku in Tyrant”
James Daughton “Mikal” **Greg from Animal House!
Klair Bybee “Sam in Tyrant”
Sondra Locke
David Sheiner “Zoran”
Jennifer Ashley “Talia in Liberator”
Joanna Barnes “Karsia”
Frank Aletter “Leuric”
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50300 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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Do you recall what issue that was?
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Saturday, 17 January 2009
7:27 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Armando Is
Gone - BUT TED IS HERE!
In a message dated 1/16/09 3:23:36 PM
Central Standard Time, ntfoster@bigpond. com writes:
And then not much else
by the looks of it!
*** I haven't checked
out his credits on IMDB, but I thought Eldon Burke was busy in films as a
stuntman (I think in SCROLLS Ron Harper said he seen him recently and
that he thought he had just retired?) ***
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50301 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: IMDB |
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IMDB is wonderful for the well known stars,
but fairly shitty with the less known stars, IMHO.
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Saturday, 17 January 2009
7:35 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Armando Is
Gone - BUT TED IS HERE!
In a message dated 1/16/09 3:30:48 PM
Central Standard Time, ntfoster@bigpond. com writes:
Okay. It's just that
on IMDB.com they have him doing nothing after about 1978. I thought that didn't
sound right seeing as he's not dead.
*** Oh, I didn't doubt
anything like that... IMDB is a good site to have, but it seems like maybe they
don't always update it? Or maybe Eldon really didn't do anything film-wise past
' 78 and went into "mainstream" work? ***.

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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50302 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: New Banner - Simian Scrolls POTA 40th? |
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Neil
I love the new banner – does this
announce Simian Scrolls’ new issue is on sale?
Michael
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50303 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: New Banner - Simian Scrolls POTA 40th? |
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Well that is what
I had heard, not sure if it's officially been confirmed
though.
Neil
Neil
I love the new banner
– does this announce Simian Scrolls’ new issue is on sale?
.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50304 |
From: Hunter Goatley |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: New Banner - Simian Scrolls POTA 40th? |
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> Well that is what I had heard, not sure if it's officially been
> confirmed though.
Kass posted to pota today:
------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:25:53 +0000
From: valwp < valwp@...>
Subject: [pota] USA Simian Scrolls Orders
Hi guys, your USA connection to the SS fanzine has finally received
shipment! If you're interested in buying, it's $6 (including
shipping),
payable by money order, check, or you can chance it with cash
(carefully concealed) - just email me at valwp@... and we'll
exchange addresses. No paypal accepted, sorry.
The fanzine is the 40th Anniversary Special with a tribute to Charlton
Heston, article on John Chambers and more :)
Kassidy
------------------------------------------------------------
Hunter <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50305 |
From: jessica rotich |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: My Zira 1/1 scale costume |
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Hello fellow apes. I have been very busy trying to get together my own 1/1 scale costume for the upcoming Wondercon 2009. It was through this group that I collided quite by
accident into my neighbor, Dan Morgan. (Hi Dan!!) I had been traversing the internet looking for ape-related photos and came across a post of him in full ape regalia, the likes of which I had never seen
before. Never in my wildest moments would I dream that I would ever have the chance of a lifetime to actually undergo a lifemold process and have appliances specifically made for my face. Blessed with
trigger fingers and lots of nervous energy, I asked Dan out of the blue if he would ever consider making me a set of Zira appliances. After a few quick e-mails, we set a date to meet over some coffee at a local
Starbucks.
Dan was kind enough to bring one chimp shoe made by Bill Blake and an unpainted Cornelius foam latex appliance that he had baked (OMG--so BUTTER SOFT!!!) to our coffee date. It was quite invaluable to peek into
the shoes. Seeing it firsthand, I was able to retain the overall premise of the design and keep that in my mind as I had planned to MacGuyver my own set of chimp boots.
Here are photos my costume that I tailored myself: Boots:
http://s302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/?action=view¤t=Zira004-1.jpg
This is me in the Apemania Zira mask (still unpainted). Tom Rubalcava was kind enough to help in me in quest to up my ape dreams a notch by making me my own set from a lifemold of my face. [IMG]
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/IMG_4427-1.jpg[/IMG]
The green jacket (GoApeBilly gave me a better set of hieroglyphs--thank you, Billy!!)
http://s302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/?action=view¤t=Zira013.jpg
The brown underdress (I will eventually re-weave the inner sleeves as soon as I find the perfect yarn. For now it will have to do.):
http://s302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/?action=view¤t=dec2008189.jpg
Sorry if you've seen this stuff before. Jessica. <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50306 |
From: juswannaknit |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: My Zira 1/1 scale costume |
.html--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> Hello fellow apes. I have been very busy trying to get together my
own 1/1
> scale costume for the upcoming Wondercon 2009. It was through this
group
> that I collided quite by accident into my neighbor, Dan Morgan. (Hi
Dan!!)
> I had been traversing the internet looking for ape-related photos
and came
> across a post of him in full ape regalia, the likes of which I had never
> seen before. Never in my wildest moments would I dream that I would
ever
> have the chance of a lifetime to actually undergo a lifemold process and
> have appliances specifically made for my face. Blessed with trigger
fingers
> and lots of nervous energy, I asked Dan out of the blue if he would ever
> consider making me a set of Zira appliances. After a few quick
e-mails, we
> set a date to meet over some coffee at a local Starbucks.
>
> Dan was kind enough to bring one chimp shoe made by Bill Blake and an
> unpainted Cornelius foam latex appliance that he had baked (OMG--so
BUTTER
> SOFT!!!) to our coffee date. It was quite invaluable to peek into the
> shoes. Seeing it firsthand, I was able to retain the overall
premise of the
> design and keep that in my mind as I had planned to MacGuyver my own
set of
> chimp boots.
>
> Here are photos my costume that I tailored myself:
> Boots:
>
http://s302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/?action=view¤t=Zira004-1.jpg
>
> This is me in the Apemania Zira mask (still unpainted). Tom
Rubalcava was
> kind enough to help in me in quest to up my ape dreams a notch by
making me
> my own set from a lifemold of my face.
> [IMG]
>
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/IMG_4427-1.jpg%5b
/IMG]
>
> The green jacket (GoApeBilly gave me a better set of
hieroglyphs--thank you,
> Billy!!)
>
http://s302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/?action=view¤t=Zira013.jpg
>
> The brown underdress (I will eventually re-weave the inner sleeves
as soon
> as I find the perfect yarn. For now it will have to do.):
>
http://s302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/?action=view¤t=dec2008189.jpg
>
> Sorry if you've seen this stuff before.
>
> Jessica.
>
The link for my Apemania photo did not work, so I stuck a photo of it
in my folder, Jessica's Stuff. <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50307 |
From: haydon.mark |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Help |
|
.html Message for neil foster who attended all the P.O.T.A shows in the U.K
in the mid seventies.
I read your artical in the simian times but there was no mention of the
show going to Rochdale at the football club which i attended
(spotlands) there is a mention of 3500 fans mobbing at the supermarket.
Could you or anyone help in the obtaining of memrobelia from this event.
My story is when i was about 12/13 i saw a poster advertising the show
to be at Rochdale.
I went out and got myself a sunday paper round for two months to get
the money together to be able to go and watch the show.
My biggest memory was me being a young boy and a gorilla soldier coming
up in the crowd right next to me and the boy i went with scared and
crying , but me loving every minute of it.
Can you or anyone help <.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50308 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Help |
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Hi Mark, I think you may have me confused with
someone else as I have never written any articles on anything!
I was there at Spotlands though for the Rochdale
Apes show but not any of the others.
I was living in Bury at the time and got our local newsagent
to keep the poster for me that they had in their
window advertising it and at the show I got
a couple of 'autographed' photos
but they're all long gone now sadly.
Neil
Message for neil foster who attended all the P.O.T.A shows in the U.K
in the mid seventies. I read your artical in the simian times but there
was no mention of the show going to Rochdale at the football club which i
attended (spotlands) there is a mention of 3500 fans mobbing at the
supermarket. Could you or anyone help in the obtaining of memrobelia from
this event. My story is when i was about 12/13 i saw a poster advertising
the show to be at Rochdale. I went out and got myself a sunday paper
round for two months to get the money together to be able to go and watch
the show. My biggest memory was me being a young boy and a gorilla soldier
coming up in the crowd right next to me and the boy i went with scared and
crying , but me loving every minute of it. Can you or anyone help
.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50309 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: New Banner - Simian Scrolls POTA 40th? |
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Message
Thanks
Hunter!
Neil
> Well that is what I had heard, not sure if it's officially
been > confirmed though.
Kass posted to pota
today:
------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - Date:
Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:25:53 +0000 From: valwp <valwp@yahoo. com> Subject:
[pota] USA Simian Scrolls Orders
Hi guys, your USA connection to the SS
fanzine has finally received shipment! If you're interested in buying, it's
$6 (including shipping), payable by money order, check, or you can
chance it with cash (carefully concealed) - just email me at valwp@yahoo. com and we'll exchange
addresses. No paypal accepted, sorry.
The fanzine is the 40th
Anniversary Special with a tribute to Charlton Heston, article on John
Chambers and more
:)
Kassidy
.
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50310 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: My Zira 1/1 scale costume |
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Message
Wow, that's some
really excellent stuff!
Neil
Hello fellow apes. I have been very busy trying to get together my
own 1/1 scale costume for the upcoming Wondercon 2009. It was through
this group that I collided quite by accident into my neighbor, Dan
Morgan. (Hi Dan!!) I had been traversing the internet looking for
ape-related photos and came across a post of him in full ape regalia, the
likes of which I had never seen before. Never in my wildest moments
would I dream that I would ever have the chance of a lifetime to actually
undergo a lifemold process and have appliances specifically made for my
face. Blessed with trigger fingers and lots of nervous energy, I asked
Dan out of the blue if he would ever consider making me a set of Zira
appliances. After a few quick e-mails, we set a date to meet over some
coffee at a local Starbucks.
Dan was kind enough to bring one
chimp shoe made by Bill Blake and an unpainted Cornelius foam latex appliance
that he had baked (OMG--so BUTTER SOFT!!!) to our coffee date. It was
quite invaluable to peek into the shoes. Seeing it firsthand, I was able
to retain the overall premise of the design and keep that in my mind as I had
planned to MacGuyver my own set of chimp boots.
Here are photos my
costume that I tailored myself: Boots:
http://s302. photobucket. com/albums/ nn102/apecityout fitters/?
action=view¤t=Zira004- 1.jpg
This
is me in the Apemania Zira mask (still unpainted). Tom Rubalcava was
kind enough to help in me in quest to up my ape dreams a notch by making me my
own set from a lifemold of my face. [IMG]
http://i302. photobucket. com/albums/ nn102/apecityout fitters/IMG_ 4427-1.jpg[ /IMG]
The
green jacket (GoApeBilly gave me a better set of hieroglyphs- -thank you,
Billy!!)
http://s302. photobucket. com/albums/ nn102/apecityout fitters/?
action=view¤t=Zira013. jpg
The
brown underdress (I will eventually re-weave the inner sleeves as soon as I
find the perfect yarn. For now it will have to do.):
http://s302. photobucket. com/albums/ nn102/apecityout fitters/?
action=view¤t=dec2008189. jpg
.
<.html
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50311 |
From: Jeff |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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He was a chimp in 1 episode. The episode also
features Eldon Burke as a gorilla and human in separate scenes. Sorry I can't
recall the name. It was the one with the blood tranfusion.
Jeff B
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 3:17
PM
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Armando Is Gone -
BUT TED IS HERE!
DAVID Naughton?
What did he do Tim?
Here's a
list of POTA TV actors still around:
Interesting note....Meegan King
who played Gregar in "The Horse Race" is the son of Wright "Dr. Galen" King!
Is this the only two generation pair? We've got James and David Naughton who
are brothers.... .
Ron Harper
James Naughton
Ron
Stein (Gorilla)
Booth Colman
Jacqueline Scott
Martin E.
Brooks
Pat Renella
Biff Elliot
Nick
Dimitri
William Smith “Tolar”
Marc Singer
Norman
Alden
Cindy Eilbacher “Lisa Miller”
Eileen Dietz
“Jillia”
John Garwood (Gorilla)
Fred Lerner
(Gorilla)
Zina Bethune “Arn”
Jackie Earle Haley
Robert
Phillips (Gorilla)
Jay Robinson “Bandor”
Jim Storm
“Romar”
Jamie Smith-Jackson “Girl in Surgeon”
David
Naughton
Jane Actman “Fauna”
Morgan Woodward
“Martin”
Richard Devon “Zandar”
Meegan King “Gregor in Horse
Race” ** SON OF WRIGHT KING!
Lee Delano (Gorilla)
Lynn Benisch
“Susan in Interrogation”
Joseph Ruskin “Daku in Tyrant”
James
Daughton “Mikal” **Greg from Animal House!
Klair Bybee “Sam in
Tyrant”
Sondra Locke
David Sheiner “Zoran”
Jennifer
Ashley “Talia in Liberator”
Joanna Barnes “Karsia”
Frank Aletter
“Leuric”
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Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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*** David Naughton was a chimp in the episode "The Surgeon"... He's
the one that tells Kira and Leander that "Dr. Adrian" (AKA Galen) has arrived...
I forget what his name is though... ***
In a message dated 1/16/09 5:17:44 PM Central Standard Time,
sallywhitty@... writes:
DAVID Naughton?
What did he do?
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Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone |
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*** He was using up all your "merchandise" for personal use
wasn't he? ***
In a message dated 1/16/09 5:19:47 PM Central Standard Time,
sallywhitty@... writes:
I did once trust a
junkie and was a business partner with him. I recall my open mindedness
at the time which I now re-name as
stupidity!
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Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Armando Is Gone - BUT TED IS HERE! |
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In a message dated 1/16/09 5:22:57 PM Central Standard Time,
sallywhitty@... writes:
Do you recall what
issue that was?
*** Not right off hand... But I'll look around tomorrow and see if I find
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From: mlccougar@aol.com |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: The Surgeon (David Naughton was a guest on it.) |
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In a message dated 1/16/09 7:46:53 PM Central Standard Time,
skintricks@... writes:
The episode also features Eldon Burke as a gorilla and
human in separate scenes.
*** I think you might be thinking of Ron Stein in dual roles...
He's the gorilla that has his cart hijacked by Galen and Burke, and he's also
the human that gets into a fight with Burke when Burke steps in to protect the
girl from the beating (for spilling the water...
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From: Jeff |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: The Surgeon (David Naughton was a guest on it.) |
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You're right. Sorry.
Jeff B
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 7:44
PM
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: The Surgeon (David
Naughton was a guest on it.)
The episode also features Eldon Burke as a gorilla
and human in separate scenes.
*** I think you might be thinking of Ron Stein in dual roles...
He's the gorilla that has his cart hijacked by Galen and Burke, and he's also
the human that gets into a fight with Burke when Burke steps in to protect the
girl from the beating (for spilling the water...
***
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Message: 50317 |
From: nlmoxham |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: The Surgeon (David Naughton was a guest on it.) |
.htmlHere's my wiki page on 'The Surgeon', there's pictures of David
Naughton as 'Doctor Stole', both of Ron Stein's characters and Eldon
Burke, if you follow the links:
http://planetoftheapes.wikia.com/wiki/The_Surgeon
And you're right Mike, imdb isn't perfect - Ron and Eldon for example
appeared in at least 12 and 10 episodes respectively but are only
credited with 10 and 5.
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff" <skintricks@...> wrote:
>
> You're right. Sorry.
>
> Jeff B
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: mlccougar@...
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 7:44 PM
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: The Surgeon (David Naughton was a guest on
it.)
>
>
>
> In a message dated 1/16/09 7:46:53 PM Central Standard Time,
skintricks@... writes:
> The episode also features Eldon Burke as a gorilla and human
in separate scenes.
> *** I think you might be thinking of Ron Stein in dual roles...
He's the gorilla that has his cart hijacked by Galen and Burke, and
he's also the human that gets into a fight with Burke when Burke
steps in to protect the girl from the beating (for spilling the
water... ***
>
>
>
>
>
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| Group: potadg |
Message: 50318 |
From: nlmoxham |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: My Zira 1/1 scale costume |
.htmlThis looks great Jessica, can't wait to see the finished costume. Is
Dan planning to attend the Wondercon with you?
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "juswannaknit" <jessicarotich@...>
wrote:
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@>
wrote:
> >
> > Hello fellow apes. I have been very busy trying to get together
my
> own 1/1
> > scale costume for the upcoming Wondercon 2009. It was through
this
> group
> > that I collided quite by accident into my neighbor, Dan Morgan.
(Hi
> Dan!!)
> > I had been traversing the internet looking for ape-related photos
> and came
> > across a post of him in full ape regalia, the likes of which I
had never
> > seen before. Never in my wildest moments would I dream that I
would
> ever
> > have the chance of a lifetime to actually undergo a lifemold
process and
> > have appliances specifically made for my face. Blessed with
trigger
> fingers
> > and lots of nervous energy, I asked Dan out of the blue if he
would ever
> > consider making me a set of Zira appliances. After a few quick
> e-mails, we
> > set a date to meet over some coffee at a local Starbucks.
> >
> > Dan was kind enough to bring one chimp shoe made by Bill Blake
and an
> > unpainted Cornelius foam latex appliance that he had baked (OMG--
so
> BUTTER
> > SOFT!!!) to our coffee date. It was quite invaluable to peek
into the
> > shoes. Seeing it firsthand, I was able to retain the overall
> premise of the
> > design and keep that in my mind as I had planned to MacGuyver my
own
> set of
> > chimp boots.
> >
> > Here are photos my costume that I tailored myself:
> > Boots:
> >
> http://s302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/?
action=view¤t=Zira004-1.jpg
> >
> > This is me in the Apemania Zira mask (still unpainted). Tom
> Rubalcava was
> > kind enough to help in me in quest to up my ape dreams a notch by
> making me
> > my own set from a lifemold of my face.
> > [IMG]
> >
> http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/IMG_4427-
1.jpg[/IMG]
> >
> > The green jacket (GoApeBilly gave me a better set of
> hieroglyphs--thank you,
> > Billy!!)
> >
> http://s302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/?
action=view¤t=Zira013.jpg
> >
> > The brown underdress (I will eventually re-weave the inner sleeves
> as soon
> > as I find the perfect yarn. For now it will have to do.):
> >
> http://s302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/?
action=view¤t=dec2008189.jpg
> >
> > Sorry if you've seen this stuff before.
> >
> > Jessica.
> >
>
> The link for my Apemania photo did not work, so I stuck a photo of
it
> in my folder, Jessica's Stuff.
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Message: 50319 |
From: nlmoxham |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Help |
.htmlI sent off a few e-mails only a few days ago to try to get contact
details for some of the live show actors - I'll let you know if I get
a response.
Neil M
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Mark, I think you may have me confused with someone else as I
have
> never written any articles on anything!
> I was there at Spotlands though for the Rochdale Apes show but not
any
> of the others.
> I was living in Bury at the time and got our local newsagent to
keep the
> poster for me that they had in their window advertising it and at
the
> show I got a couple of 'autographed' photos but they're all long
gone
> now sadly.
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of haydon.mark
> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 10:31 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Help
>
>
>
> Message for neil foster who attended all the P.O.T.A shows in the
U.K
> in the mid seventies.
> I read your artical in the simian times but there was no mention of
the
> show going to Rochdale at the football club which i attended
> (spotlands) there is a mention of 3500 fans mobbing at the
supermarket.
> Could you or anyone help in the obtaining of memrobelia from this
event.
> My story is when i was about 12/13 i saw a poster advertising the
show
> to be at Rochdale.
> I went out and got myself a sunday paper round for two months to
get
> the money together to be able to go and watch the show.
> My biggest memory was me being a young boy and a gorilla soldier
coming
> up in the crowd right next to me and the boy i went with scared and
> crying , but me loving every minute of it.
> Can you or anyone help
>
> .
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?
s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
> sgId=50307/stime=1232153982/nc1=3858795/nc2=3848621/nc3=4836042>
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Message: 50320 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Calling Dave Ballard.....come in Dave.... |
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Dave – is there a new Scrolls out?
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Saturday, 17 January 2009
9:39 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] New Banner -
Simian Scrolls POTA 40th?
Well that is what I had heard, not sure if it's officially
been confirmed though.
Neil
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
[ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ]
On Behalf Of Michael & Sally
Whitty
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009
9:33 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] New Banner -
Simian Scrolls POTA 40th?
Neil
I love the new banner – does this announce Simian
Scrolls’ new issue is on sale?
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From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: New Banner - Simian Scrolls POTA 40th? |
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Thanks Hunter.
I wonder if it’s time to set aside
politics and let all POTA groups know the important stuff (which, personally, I
think this IS) at the same time?
Hunter, maybe you should announce it as you do with the new stuff on your site?
I mean how silly can things get and for how
long?
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Hunter Goatley
Sent: Saturday, 17 January 2009
10:14 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] New Banner -
Simian Scrolls POTA 40th?
> Well
that is what I had heard, not sure if it's officially been
> confirmed though.
Kass posted to pota today:
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Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 12:25:53 +0000
From: valwp <valwp@yahoo. com>
Subject: [pota] USA Simian Scrolls Orders
Hi guys, your USA
connection to the SS fanzine has finally received
shipment! If you're interested in buying, it's $6 (including
shipping),
payable by money order, check, or you can chance it with cash
(carefully concealed) - just email me at valwp@yahoo. com
and we'll
exchange addresses. No paypal accepted, sorry.
The fanzine is the 40th Anniversary Special with a tribute to Charlton
Heston, article on John Chambers and more :)
Kassidy
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Hunter
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Message: 50322 |
From: jessica rotich |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: My Zira 1/1 scale costume |
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Not sure at this point if he will be available. He will try but he may be too busy to commit. Hopefully there will be other apes there. I haven't heard from anybody
for sure though if they will go ape with me so I may be the only ape in town.
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:21 PM, nlmoxham <neilmoxham@...
> wrote:
This looks great Jessica, can't wait to see the finished costume. Is Dan planning to attend the Wondercon with you?
--- In
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "juswannaknit" <jessicarotich@...>
wrote:
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@> wrote:
> > > > Hello fellow apes. I have been very busy trying to get together
my > own 1/1 > > scale costume for the upcoming Wondercon 2009. It was through this > group > > that I collided quite by accident into my neighbor, Dan Morgan. (Hi > Dan!!)
> > I had been traversing the internet looking for ape-related photos
> and came > > across a post of him in full ape regalia, the likes of which I had never > > seen before. Never in my wildest moments would I dream that I would > ever
> > have the chance of a lifetime to actually undergo a lifemold
process and > > have appliances specifically made for my face. Blessed with trigger > fingers > > and lots of nervous energy, I asked Dan out of the blue if he would ever
> > consider making me a set of Zira appliances. After a few quick
> e-mails, we > > set a date to meet over some coffee at a local Starbucks. > > > > Dan was kind enough to bring one chimp shoe made by Bill Blake and an
> > unpainted Cornelius foam latex appliance that he had baked (OMG--
so > BUTTER > > SOFT!!!) to our coffee date. It was quite invaluable to peek into the > > shoes. Seeing it firsthand, I was able to retain the overall > premise of the
> > design and keep that in my mind as I had planned to MacGuyver my
own > set of > > chimp boots. > > > > Here are photos my costume that I tailored myself: > > Boots: > > >
http://s302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/?
action=view¤t=Zira004-1.jpg > > > > This is me in the Apemania Zira mask (still unpainted). Tom > Rubalcava was
> > kind enough to help in me in quest to up my ape dreams a notch by
> making me > > my own set from a lifemold of my face. > > [IMG] > > >
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/IMG_4427-
1.jpg[/IMG] > > > > The green jacket (GoApeBilly gave me a better set of > hieroglyphs--thank you, > > Billy!!) > > >
http://s302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/?
action=view¤t=Zira013.jpg > > > > The brown underdress (I will eventually re-weave the inner sleeves > as soon > > as I find the perfect yarn. For now it will have to do.):
> >
> http://s302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/?action=view¤t=dec2008189.jpg
> > > > Sorry if you've seen this stuff before.
> > > > Jessica. > > > > The link for my Apemania photo did not work, so I stuck a photo of it > in my folder, Jessica's Stuff. >
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Message: 50323 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: My Zira 1/1 scale costume |
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Hi Jessica,
And thanks SO much for sharing this with
us.
As I explained to you privately, there are
a good number of people on this group who choose not to join the POTA groups
(well, the behaviour of certain individuals has actually FORCED the choice, so
is it REALLY a choice?).
Therefore people who post exclusively
elsewhere actually miss a pocket of fans.
This is fascinating and brilliant.
By the way – when you say Dan is a
neighbour, how far away does he live?
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
Sent: Saturday, 17 January 2009
10:19 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] My Zira 1/1
scale costume
Hello fellow apes. I have been very busy trying
to get together my own 1/1 scale costume for the upcoming Wondercon 2009.
It was through this group that I collided quite by accident into my neighbor,
Dan Morgan. (Hi Dan!!) I had been traversing the internet looking
for ape-related photos and came across a post of him in full ape regalia, the
likes of which I had never seen before. Never in my wildest moments would
I dream that I would ever have the chance of a lifetime to actually undergo a
lifemold process and have appliances specifically made for my face.
Blessed with trigger fingers and lots of nervous energy, I asked Dan out of the
blue if he would ever consider making me a set of Zira appliances. After
a few quick e-mails, we set a date to meet over some coffee at a local
Starbucks.
Dan was kind enough to bring one chimp shoe made by Bill Blake and an unpainted
Cornelius foam latex appliance that he had baked (OMG--so BUTTER SOFT!!!) to
our coffee date. It was quite invaluable to peek into the shoes.
Seeing it firsthand, I was able to retain the overall premise of the design and
keep that in my mind as I had planned to MacGuyver my own set of chimp boots.
Here are photos my costume that I tailored myself:
Boots:
http://s302. photobucket. com/albums/ nn102/apecityout fitters/?
action=view¤t=Zira004- 1.jpg
This is me in the Apemania Zira mask (still unpainted). Tom Rubalcava was
kind enough to help in me in quest to up my ape dreams a notch by making me my
own set from a lifemold of my face.
[IMG]http://i302. photobucket. com/albums/ nn102/apecityout fitters/IMG_ 4427-1.jpg[ /IMG]
The green jacket (GoApeBilly gave me a better set of hieroglyphs- -thank
you, Billy!!)
http://s302. photobucket. com/albums/ nn102/apecityout fitters/?
action=view¤t=Zira013. jpg
The brown underdress (I will eventually re-weave the inner sleeves as soon as I
find the perfect yarn. For now it will have to do.):
http://s302. photobucket. com/albums/ nn102/apecityout fitters/?
action=view¤t=dec2008189. jpg
Sorry if you've seen this stuff before.
Jessica.
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Message: 50324 |
From: Neil Foster |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Help |
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Good one Neil.
I'll be very interested in anything that you can find out.
Neil
I sent off a few e-mails only a few days ago to try to get contact
details for some of the live show actors - I'll let you know if I get
a response.
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Message: 50325 |
From: Michael & Sally Whitty |
Date: 1/16/2009 |
| Subject: Re: Help |
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Tim
Could you please forward this to Mark
Smolen?
I believe he has some VERY nice stuff
related to this.
Michael
From:
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [
PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of haydon.mark
Sent: Saturday, 17 January 2009
10:31 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Help
Message for neil foster who attended all the P.O.T.A
shows in the U.K
in the mid seventies.
I read your artical in the simian times but there was no mention of the
show going to Rochdale at the football club
which i attended
(spotlands) there is a mention of 3500 fans mobbing at the supermarket.
Could you or anyone help in the obtaining of memrobelia from this event.
My story is when i was about 12/13 i saw a poster advertising the show
to be at Rochdale .
I went out and got myself a sunday paper round for two months to get
the money together to be able to go and watch the show.
My biggest memory was me being a young boy and a gorilla soldier coming
up in the crowd right next to me and the boy i went with scared and
crying , but me loving every minute of it.
Can you or anyone help
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