-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 9:38 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG

Personally, I’d love to see BTB entirely coloured too.

.

>
> Well aren't you going to ask about the radical script change first

>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On

> nlmoxham
> Sent: Wednesday, 21 January 2009 9:29 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Begins again begin again.....
>
>
>
> Yes please!
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>

> Sally Whitty"
> <sallywhitty@> wrote:
> >
> > So who wants to see more?
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com]

> Behalf Of
> > Michael & Sally Whitty
> > Sent: Wednesday, 21 January 2009 12:39 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Begins again begin again.....
> >
> >
> >
> > And thanks to the people on the group here who read the originals
> and made
> > comments.
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com]

> Behalf Of
> > Neil Foster
> > Sent: Tuesday, 20 January 2009 10:28 PM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Begins again begin again.....
> >
> >
> >
> > We've changed quite a bit of the dialog and even changed some of
> the art
> > plus added extra art and also removed stuff and moved pages

> so the
> > finished comic will be quite different from what we had

> shown to
> > the group.
> >
> > I'll upload the original B&W first page along with the revised
> coloured one
> > to give a bit of an example of how it's coming along.
> >
> >
> >
> > I've got 7 and a half pages out of the 17 coloured so far so
> there's still a
> > bit of a wait until we can show the whole finished version.
> >
> >
> >
> > Neil
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com]

> Behalf Of
> > Michael & Sally Whitty
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 8:22 PM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Begins again begin again.....
> >
> > Neil
> >
> > Are you going to share some of our latest comic venture?
> >
> > How's the colouring coming along?
> >
> > Maybe we should show the original script on the B&W page then the
> final
> > script and colour version?
> >
> > .
> >
> >
> > <http://geo.yahoo <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?> com/serv?
> s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/msgId
> > =50474/stime=1232446973/nc1=3848627/nc2=3858797/nc3=5191953>
> >
>

> Did you know Dave Ballard did some great colouring for select pages

> as well?
>
>
>
> My recollection of it is that the whole thing was just WAY too time
> consuming.
>
>
>
> However, Neil and I are so stoked with the first 17 pages of begins

> is a 5-6 page "BACK-STORY" yet to be done to complete the first

> the overall plan we have for the story, that we are making this

> good as we possibly can and throwing a heap of extra time and

> it.
>
>
>
> Personally, I'd love to see BTB entirely coloured too.
>
>
>
> Frankly, I am guessing Neil's hoping if he's doing the job he's

> a lot more than what I'm paying him! :-)
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On

> nlmoxham
> Sent: Wednesday, 21 January 2009 9:27 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
>
>
>
> It really looks great with colour. Am I right that this is the

> time you've done a colour POTA comic Neil? I know there were
> some 'Beware' test pages done. Is that because there's so much more
> work involved or do you prefer working with black and white?
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>

> Sally Whitty"
> <sallywhitty@> wrote:
> >
> > How much better does it look with colour?!?!?
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com]

> Behalf Of
> > Tim "apefan"
> > Sent: Wednesday, 21 January 2009 7:03 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] New file uploaded to PotaDG
> >
> >
> >
> > Damn you're talented Neil!!
> >
> > --- On Tue, 1/20/09, PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%
> 40yahoogroups.com>
> > com <PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > <PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com>
> > > Subject: [PotaDG] New file uploaded to PotaDG
> > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > > Date: Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 7:36 AM
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > This email message is a notification to let you know that
> > > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
> > > group.
> > >
> > > File : /Comics/POTA Begins/01 coloured.jpg
> > > Uploaded by : munkeyman63au <ntfoster@bigpond.
> > <mailto:ntfoster%40bigpond.com> com>
> > > Description :
> > >
> > > You can access this file at the URL:
> > > http://groups.
> > <http://groups.
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Comics/POTA%20Begins/01%

> yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Comics/POTA%20Begins/01%
> 20colour
> > ed.jpg> yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Comics/POTA%20Begins/01%
> 20coloured.jpg
> > >
> > >
> > > To learn more about file sharing for your group, please
> > > visit:
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>
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> mlfile
> > s>

> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > munkeyman63au <ntfoster@bigpond. <mailto:ntfoster%

> com>
> >
>

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 9:59 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG

Could you please – I couldn’t locate them in the files….

.

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 6:14 am
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Begins again begin again.....

> So who wants to see more?
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of
> Michael & Sally Whitty
> Sent: Wednesday, 21 January 2009 12:39 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Begins again begin again.....
>
>
>
> And thanks to the people on the group here who read the originals
> and made
> comments.
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of
> Neil Foster
> Sent: Tuesday, 20 January 2009 10:28 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Begins again begin again.....
>
>
>
> We've changed quite a bit of the dialog and even changed some of
> the art
> plus added extra art and also removed stuff and moved pages around
> so the
> finished comic will be quite different from what we had previously
> shown to
> the group.
>
> I'll upload the original B&W first page along with the revised
> coloured one
> to give a bit of an example of how it's coming along.
>
>
>
> I've got 7 and a half pages out of the 17 coloured so far so
> there's still a
> bit of a wait until we can show the whole finished version.
>
>
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of
> Michael & Sally Whitty
> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 8:22 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Begins again begin again.....
>
> Neil
>
> Are you going to share some of our latest comic venture?
>
> How's the colouring coming along?
>
> Maybe we should show the original script on the B&W page then the
> finalscript and colour version?
>
> .
>
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?
s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/msgId
> =50474/stime=1232446973/nc1=3848627/nc2=3858797/nc3=5191953>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
> Just curious, folks--has anyone here ever put together a list of
> which US Marvel tales appear in which UK issues? If so, would you
> mind sharing that list with me so I can be lazy and not have to wade
> through all of the issues to figure it out? Thanks! :)
>

>
> Yeah but you are cheating!
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On

> nlmoxham
> Sent: Wednesday, 21 January 2009 10:16 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Begins again begin again.....
>
>
>
> But Michael, you already sent me the script change!
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>

> Sally Whitty"
> <sallywhitty@> wrote:
> >
> > Well aren't you going to ask about the radical script change

> Moxy?!?!?
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com]

> Behalf Of
> > nlmoxham
> > Sent: Wednesday, 21 January 2009 9:29 PM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Begins again begin again.....
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes please!
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>
> com, "Michael &
> > Sally Whitty"
> > <sallywhitty@> wrote:
> > >
> > > So who wants to see more?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > [PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>

> On
> > Behalf Of
> > > Michael & Sally Whitty
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 21 January 2009 12:39 AM
> > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Begins again begin again.....
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > And thanks to the people on the group here who read the

> > and made
> > > comments.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > [PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>

> On
> > Behalf Of
> > > Neil Foster
> > > Sent: Tuesday, 20 January 2009 10:28 PM
> > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Begins again begin again.....
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > We've changed quite a bit of the dialog and even changed some

> > the art
> > > plus added extra art and also removed stuff and moved pages
> around
> > so the
> > > finished comic will be quite different from what we had
> previously
> > shown to
> > > the group.
> > >
> > > I'll upload the original B&W first page along with the revised
> > coloured one
> > > to give a bit of an example of how it's coming along.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I've got 7 and a half pages out of the 17 coloured so far so
> > there's still a
> > > bit of a wait until we can show the whole finished version.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Neil
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > [PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>

> On
> > Behalf Of
> > > Michael & Sally Whitty
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 8:22 PM
> > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > > Subject: [PotaDG] Begins again begin again.....
> > >
> > > Neil
> > >
> > > Are you going to share some of our latest comic venture?
> > >
> > > How's the colouring coming along?
> > >
> > > Maybe we should show the original script on the B&W page then

> > final
> > > script and colour version?
> > >
> > > .
> > >
> > >
> > > <http://geo.yahoo <http://geo.yahoo

> com/serv?> com/serv?
> > s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/msgId
> > > =50474/stime=1232446973/nc1=3848627/nc2=3858797/nc3=5191953>
> > >
> >
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, PotaDG@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
>
> This email message is a notification to let you know that
> a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
> group.
>
> File : /Comics/POTA Begins/01 coloured.jpg
> Uploaded by : munkeyman63au <ntfoster@...>
> Description :
>
> You can access this file at the URL:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Comics/POTA%20Begins/01%
20coloured.jpg
>
> To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
>
http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.htm
lfiles
>
> Regards,
>
> munkeyman63au <ntfoster@...>
>

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 3:45 AM, <markhaydon3@...> wrote:

I'm glad what i suggested was of some help, the suggestions you made on how to collect stills was most informative.

But for those who cant do these things the easy thing you can do is just freeze pause the picture, however like most things i would think there would be a time limit on that.

Mark 

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "nlmoxham" <neilmoxham@...> wrote:
>
> I have a list of what stories appear in which UK issues (like 'Terror' -
> issues 23-34, etc) but not the individual story titles, if that's any
> use? You might be able to figure them out from that. I'll post the list
> when I get home this evening...
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@> wrote:
> >
> > Just curious, folks--has anyone here ever put together a list of
> > which US Marvel tales appear in which UK issues? If so, would you
> > mind sharing that list with me so I can be lazy and not have to wade
> > through all of the issues to figure it out? Thanks! :)
> >
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
> That would definitely help--thanks, man.
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "nlmoxham" <neilmoxham@> wrote:
> >
> > I have a list of what stories appear in which UK issues
(like 'Terror' -
> > issues 23-34, etc) but not the individual story titles, if
that's any
> > use? You might be able to figure them out from that. I'll post
the list
> > when I get home this evening...
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Just curious, folks--has anyone here ever put together a list of
> > > which US Marvel tales appear in which UK issues? If so, would
you
> > > mind sharing that list with me so I can be lazy and not have to
wade
> > > through all of the issues to figure it out? Thanks! :)
> > >
> >
>

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Michael & Sally Whitty < sallywhitty@...> wrote:

Don't say we never do anything for you Jess!

J

 

---

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
Sent: Thursday, 22 January 2009 4:34 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: My latest sculpt.

 

AWESOME screenshots!  I'm going to print them out and take them home for reference.

I tried freezing the picture on my computer at home...kind of works...but the alt and printscreen buttons don't work for me.  I need to invest in one of those screengrab softwares that will work with my system. 

I am re-doing Carsia.  I'll keep working on her until I get her to look right.

Jess.

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 3:45 AM, <markhaydon3@...> wrote:

I'm glad what i suggested was of some help, the suggestions you made on how to collect stills was most informative.

But for those who cant do these things the easy thing you can do is just freeze pause the picture, however like most things i would think there would be a time limit on that.

Mark 

 

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, TZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> Well give us a topic we can chime in on.
> No point in rehashing an tired topic that's
> been pick over like an old dead carcass.
>
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 1/21/2009 4:01:23 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> sallywhitty@... writes:
>
> Neil and I get really discussed when we think about the hypocrisy
of having
> a discussion group….where nobody is discussing anything!
>
> **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in
just 2 easy
> steps!
> (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?
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26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De
> cemailfooterNO62)
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, TZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> What?
> My comment about contextless posts?
>
>
>
> In a message dated 1/21/2009 4:07:33 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> markhaydon3@... writes:
>
> Now that's funny , it had me laughing for a good twenty
minutes!!!!!Now
>
> **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in
just 2 easy
> steps!
> (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?
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> cemailfooterNO62)
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, TZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> What?
> My comment about contextless posts?
>
>
>
> In a message dated 1/21/2009 4:07:33 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> markhaydon3@... writes:
>
> Now that's funny , it had me laughing for a good twenty
minutes!!!!!Now
>
> **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in
just 2 easy
> steps!
> (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?
redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%
26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De
> cemailfooterNO62)
>

On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Michael Whitty < sallywhitty@...> wrote:

I know what you mean and I can relate.

The thing is, when newcomers ask old questions, if they don't get
answers they think nobody's listening.

If they get answers they keep talking and eventuelly new things come
up.

A while back I asked Hunter if we could do a FAQ section on his site
for all the really boring old topics (and Hunter said yes) and then
we could refer people to the "FAQ Frequently Asked Questions"
section, they could read it (or we could just copy and paste the
response) then comment.

BUT it's too bloody time consuming! I still want to do this but if
someone else would like to do all the work....

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, TZer0@... wrote:
>
>

> Well give us a topic we can chime in on.
> No point in rehashing an tired topic that's
> been pick over like an old dead carcass.
>
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 1/21/2009 4:01:23 P.M. Central Standard Time,

> sallywhitty@... writes:
>
> Neil and I get really discussed when we think about the hypocrisy
of having

> a discussion group….where nobody is discussing anything!

>
> **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in
just 2 easy
> steps!

> (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?
redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%
26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De
> cemailfooterNO62)
>

>
> That would take eons and dedication to compile, Michael. That

> monumental task.
>
> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Michael Whitty

>
> > I know what you mean and I can relate.
> >
> > The thing is, when newcomers ask old questions, if they don't get
> > answers they think nobody's listening.
> >
> > If they get answers they keep talking and eventuelly new things

> > up.
> >
> > A while back I asked Hunter if we could do a FAQ section on his

> > for all the really boring old topics (and Hunter said yes) and

> > we could refer people to the "FAQ Frequently Asked Questions"
> > section, they could read it (or we could just copy and paste the
> > response) then comment.
> >
> > BUT it's too bloody time consuming! I still want to do this but if
> > someone else would like to do all the work....
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>, TZer0@

> > >
> > >
> > > Well give us a topic we can chime in on.
> > > No point in rehashing an tired topic that's
> > > been pick over like an old dead carcass.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 1/21/2009 4:01:23 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> > > sallywhitty@ writes:
> > >
> > > Neil and I get really discussed when we think about the

> > of having
> > > a discussion group….where nobody is discussing anything!
> > >
> > > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in
> > just 2 easy
> > > steps!
> > >

> > redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%
> > 26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De
> > > cemailfooterNO62)
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

> What does everyone think the most common topic is and I'll start
> there?

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
>
> *** As I asked you awhile back: I thought you and Neil handed the
reins over
> to TZer0? It's his baby now, sow why are you even worried about
this stuff?
> (Unless he handed it back to you and none of it was ever
made "public"?) If
> you're not the owner or moderators anyway, why sweat it?

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
>
> *** PLANET is not flawed... The sequels and everything else (aka
APES) has
> it's low points, but PLANET itself is an untouchable masterpiece
of
> film-making. To lower it to by equating it with , let's say BATTLE
or any of the comics
> that came in the 90s, etc. is just dumb. ***
>
>
>
> In a message dated 1/21/09 6:30:35 PM Central Standard Time,
> sallywhitty@... writes:
>
> I think the main attitude is to speak to anyone about anything -
we
> all start SOMEWHERE before we learn how flawed our dear POTA
is! :)
>
>
>
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
>
> *** Why when some people point out how there should have been
commentaries
> and interviews with actual APES players instead of rehashing the
same "extras"
> we previously got on BEHIND it was turned into a big shit pile,
but then a
> week later when a newer memeber says "Last week someone mentioned
how
> commentaries would have been a good idea", it was embraced and
plans were kicked
> around. ***
>
>
> In a message dated 1/21/09 7:48:53 PM Central Standard Time,
> sallywhitty@... writes:
>
>
> What does everyone think the most common topic is and I'll start
there?
>
>
>
>
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, TZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> That's a great idea!
> So many topics have been covered.
> There's a definitive answer to nearly every question.
>
>
>
> In a message dated 1/21/2009 6:24:15 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> sallywhitty@... writes:
>
> then
> we could refer people to the "FAQ Frequently Asked Questions"
> section
>
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
>
> *** There's what I mentioned below, and an actually beat to death
horse is
> the: "Two timelines vs. circular" and of course "How did Milo fix
Taylor's
> ship?"
>
>
>
> In a message dated 1/21/09 10:25:26 PM Central Standard Time,
> mlccougar@... writes:
>
> *** Why when some people point out how there should have been
commentaries
> and interviews with actual APES players instead of rehashing the
same "extras"
> we previously got on BEHIND it was turned into a big shit pile, but
then a
> week later when a newer memeber says "Last week someone mentioned
how
> commentaries would have been a good idea", it was embraced and plans
were kicked
> around. ***
>
>
> In a message dated 1/21/09 7:48:53 PM Central Standard Time,
> sallywhitty@... writes:
>
>
> What does everyone think the most common topic is and I'll start
there?
>
>
>
>
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
> Some contenders for FAQ questions:
>
> * 3955 vs. 3978--what gives?
> * Changing vs. circular timeline?
> * Is there another film coming out / will it be connected to the
> original film or the Burton film or neither/both?
> * Ending to the Burton film--WTF?
> * How could Milo have gotten Taylor's ship in orbit?
> * What's the name of Taylor's ship--Icarus, Air Force One, Immigrant
> One or Liberty 1?
> * Why wasn't Charlton Heston in most of the second film?
> * Why wasn't Roddy MacDowall in the second film?
> * Why wasn't Breck in the fifth film?
> * Does the fifth film take place in 2001, 2018, 2020 or some other
year?
> * If it's in 2001, what the heck did Mandemus mean by "27 years?"
> * What other POTA stories are there besides the films and TV show?
> * Were the people who made the cartoon series on crack, or what?
> * Why would Taylor think he was on another planet if the apes spoke
> English?
> * Why would the apes think humans to be dumb brutes if they wore
clothing?
> * Was Mark Wahlberg asleep while filming the remake?
> * What are some of the better POTA-related Web sites?
> * What are some of the better POTA-related fanfics / fan magazines?
> * Who piloted the mothership if Taylor, Maddox and Virdon were flying
> the three shuttles? (Rick ducks.)
>
>
>
> --"Michael Whitty" <sallywhitty@> wrote:
> > What does everyone think the most common topic is and I'll start
> > there?
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, TZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> That's news to me.
> I do have moderator status.
> But by the time I get to anything
> it's already been done. I think I've
> okayed all of ONE new member.
>
>
>
> In a message dated 1/21/2009 10:17:22 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> mlccougar@... writes:
>
> *** As I asked you awhile back: I thought you and Neil handed the
reins over
> to TZer0?
>
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>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
>
> *** That's true I suppose, but it woulda been a little nicer to
have someone
> agreeing at the time... I mean I don't need anyone's approval, but
if they
> liked the idea, it would have been nice to hear it at the time...
***
>
>
>
> In a message dated 1/21/09 10:48:49 PM Central Standard Time,
> sallywhitty@... writes:
>
> I really believe the good outcome of "embracing" the idea was the
> ultimate conclusion of the original conversation.
>
> We made various points and that's where we ended up....
>
>
>
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 1/21/09 10:54:33 PM Central Standard Time,
> sallywhitty@... writes:
>
> OK well let's pick one. i'll wait a day or so for some more
comments
> but I agree Mike the TIMELINES and TAYLOR'S SHIP are the all-time
> winners!
>
>
> *** Throw this one in there too: How did the apes learn to talk in
the short
> length of time between the end of CONQUEST and BATTLE.? ***
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
>
> OK:
>
>
> I think at the time I was a bit overwhelmed by (what I perceived as)
> your negativity.
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, TZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> I kind of like the Yahoo Answers approach
> for questions there might be a number of
> answers to. People can vote thumbs up
> or down on and answer and then they are
> posted in order of popularity by # of votes.
>
>
> In a message dated 1/21/2009 10:52:08 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> sallywhitty@... writes:
>
> Well my approach would be to come up with a topic (time lines?)
> that's been done to death.
>
>
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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rassmguy
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 2:29 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: What's the most common POTA topic?

Some contenders for FAQ questions:

* Were the people who made the cartoon series on crack, or what?

.

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 2:52 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: My latest sculpt.

Well my approach would be to come up with a topic (time lines?)
that's been done to death.

Then look at all the various discussions on the group, on Patrick's
group and on the POTA group and assemble all possible points.

Then when it's mentioned, refer people to the FAQ section then maybe
they will still come back and comment but without us all getting
shitty and dizzy.

.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> I've still got the banner I made up for the Faqs site we were going
to
> do.
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Michael Whitty
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 2:52 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: My latest sculpt.
>
>
>
> Well my approach would be to come up with a topic (time lines?)
> that's been done to death.
>
> Then look at all the various discussions on the group, on Patrick's
> group and on the POTA group and assemble all possible points.
>
> Then when it's mentioned, refer people to the FAQ section then
maybe
> they will still come back and comment but without us all getting
> shitty and dizzy.
>
> .
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?
s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
> sgId=50572/stime=1232599917/nc1=3848621/nc2=3858794/nc3=5191952>
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> I've still got the banner I made up for the Faqs site we were going
to
> do.
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Michael Whitty
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 2:52 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: My latest sculpt.
>
>
>
> Well my approach would be to come up with a topic (time lines?)
> that's been done to death.
>
> Then look at all the various discussions on the group, on Patrick's
> group and on the POTA group and assemble all possible points.
>
> Then when it's mentioned, refer people to the FAQ section then
maybe
> they will still come back and comment but without us all getting
> shitty and dizzy.
>
> .
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?
s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
> sgId=50572/stime=1232599917/nc1=3848621/nc2=3858794/nc3=5191952>
>

> * Who piloted the mothership if Taylor, Maddox and Virdon were flying
> the three shuttles? (Rick ducks.)

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 7:23 pm
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: My latest sculpt.

> I know what you mean and I can relate.
>
> The thing is, when newcomers ask old questions, if they don't get
> answers they think nobody's listening.
>
> If they get answers they keep talking and eventuelly new things
> come
> up.
>
> A while back I asked Hunter if we could do a FAQ section on his
> site
> for all the really boring old topics (and Hunter said yes) and
> then
> we could refer people to the "FAQ Frequently Asked Questions"
> section, they could read it (or we could just copy and paste the
> response) then comment.
>
> BUT it's too bloody time consuming! I still want to do this but
> if
> someone else would like to do all the work....
>
> Michael
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, TZer0@... wrote:
> >
> >
> > Well give us a topic we can chime in on.
> > No point in rehashing an tired topic that's
> > been pick over like an old dead carcass.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 1/21/2009 4:01:23 P.M. Central Standard Time,
>
> > sallywhitty@... writes:
> >
> > Neil and I get really discussed when we think about the
> hypocrisy
> of having
> > a discussion groupâ?¦.where nobody is discussing anything!
> >
> > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in
> just 2 easy
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> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> To visit your group on the web, go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/
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>
>
>
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Dario Sciola <darios@...> wrote:
>
>
> I was thinking along those lines myself just the other day, but not
> necessarily the need for a FAQ, but more along the lines of a database
> or factual data repository. This came to mind when the question
> regarding Marvel UK storylines came up. It's just
> data/lists/facts/numbers that some people have captured or collated
> over the years. They float around in snippets. Some people keep the
> information in archived emails. Others set the data aside in their
> computer. But this could all be maintained collectively in a simple
> text file.
>
> Over the years, I have retained as many images related to POTA that
> come along here in the news groups, other sites, and even ebay
> listings. I have tried to amass all those images in a semi-coherent
> directory structure. (I sent a copy to you, Micheal a few years ago).
> I did it mostly to document all the commercial POTA merchandise
> created over the years (legal and knockoffs). But I also have movie
> stills, videos, artwork, and all sorts of odds and ends. Days days a
> lot of the stuff I see being brough up in the DG are items I've
> already catalogued somewhere, so I know I've got a decent amount
> already stored. I'm pretty sure that a lot of others do the same or
> something similar based on postings.
>
> Hunter's site is another great example of data. But again, as big as
> it is, it is not all encompassing.
>
> I was thinking that I just as easily record factual data, the Marvel
> UK list being a great example. I don't think that that type of
> information is as readily available. It would be a slow process, but
> I'm going to try to collect this data from this point on, and see how
> good a data file I can create as time goes on.
>
> Let ya know in a few years.... :)
>
> Dario
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
> Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 7:23 pm
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: My latest sculpt.
>
> > I know what you mean and I can relate.
> >
> > The thing is, when newcomers ask old questions, if they don't get
> > answers they think nobody's listening.
> >
> > If they get answers they keep talking and eventuelly new things
> > come
> > up.
> >
> > A while back I asked Hunter if we could do a FAQ section on his
> > site
> > for all the really boring old topics (and Hunter said yes) and
> > then
> > we could refer people to the "FAQ Frequently Asked Questions"
> > section, they could read it (or we could just copy and paste the
> > response) then comment.
> >
> > BUT it's too bloody time consuming! I still want to do this but
> > if
> > someone else would like to do all the work....
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, TZer0@ wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Well give us a topic we can chime in on.
> > > No point in rehashing an tired topic that's
> > > been pick over like an old dead carcass.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > In a message dated 1/21/2009 4:01:23 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> >
> > > sallywhitty@ writes:
> > >
> > > Neil and I get really discussed when we think about the
> > hypocrisy
> > of having
> > > a discussion groupâ?¦.where nobody is discussing anything!
> > >
> > > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in
> > just 2 easy
> > > steps!
> > > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?
> > redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%
> > 26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De
> > > cemailfooterNO62)
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------------
> >
> > To visit your group on the web, go to:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:

*** Umm, I gave you some things to ask him: Like if he's basing that
ape on the real life ape named Oliver, the "humanzee"... He has more
human like mannerisms than other chimps, is shunned by his fellow
chimps and is more comfortable with humans that apes... (Just like
the almighty "Caesar" ape in that fil, is going to be.. Coincidence:
I think not.) Whether that email was saved I don't know, but I gave
you some stuff to kick around question-wise... ***

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:

One thing I did notice watching them one after the other was the
phenomenal amount of mistakes and inconsistencies between and in the
movies.
Not that they really bothered me, just made me realise how impossible
and pointless it is to try and explain the mistakes away and to try
and make it all fit together seamlessly.

Neil

>
> I was just suggesting that could have been Taylor's pet name for

> There are always back ups who train for the missions as well aren't

>
> Neil

> Here's one for you i watched Beneath Planet again today and i noticed when
> Nova comes down to see the spaceship and talks to Brent .
> There's seems to be a scene where a piece of paper blows along the floor ?
> I didn't rewind but i am sure that's what is was.

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of patrickmichaeltilton
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 2:33 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Unflubbing ain't pointless, by Gawd!

Because some part of the ship BEHIND that aft bulkhead must have
detached from the once-airtight cockpit/cabin section. I'm thinking
EXPLOSIVE BOLTS going off to separate the cabin section from the aft
section, like when the Apollo rockets jettisoned their used-up stages.

By the time the ship is about to sink below the surface, it is only
the cockpit/cabin section still there, the rest of the ship having
been jettisoned so that those further-back sections are already on
their way to the bottom of the lake and, hence, INVISIBLE to anybody
looking down at the about-to-sink remainder of the ship.

.

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rassmguy
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 1:10 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: FAQ-Database

I think it's an excellent idea.

.

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of patrickmichaeltilton
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 2:54 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Golden Boy of the Class of '72

*** I just don't see "the Class of '72" being a Taylorism nickname
for the group of 4 astronauts (himself included). The term "the Class
of" suggests a SCHOOL of some sort, doesn't it? It seems to me that a
colonizing mission to a world 320 lightyears away would need the very
best of the best that the astronaut-training programs would have to
offer. NASA got its spacecraft pilots predominantly from the Air
Force. The reference to Landon as "the Golden Boy" of his class
suggests that he was recognized by the mission-planners as being the
Top Gun-type pilot then being trained in flight simulators at the
Academy. He was so good that the Higher-Ups nominated him for "the
Big One", the Orion Mission.

Yeah, NASA was also recruiting scientists for the Apollo missions,
not just pilots. I think of DODGE as one of these types. He's the one
who is the expert on running SOIL TESTS and all that, right? When
Taylor is haranguing Landon over their respective motivations for
volunteering for their mission, Dodge is off in the distance ahead of
them both, actively participating in the "expedition" ... exploring
their new world for signs of life -- which HE finds. Which the other
two guys might NOT have found, given their focus on arguing with each
other.

So, I would suggest that Dodge was one of those expert scientist guys
who was nominated for a spot on the mission specifically because he
was a motivated genius "who would walk naked into a live volcano if
he thought he could learn something no other man knew". Despite the
fact that he was an African American (!) he was nominated for the Big
One -- and also expected to participate in the breeding program that
this colonization mission was to attempt, since Stewart was to
be "the new Eve... with OUR hot-and-eager help" -- with the hot-and-
eager help of all three male astronauts.

Imagine! In the racially-divided times that were the late-60s and
early-70s, ANSA was willing to include a Black man... not only as a
science expert but also as a Breeder with a White woman! "Race-Mixing
on the Planet of the Apes"!

Taylor was the Commander, the guy in charge.
Dodge was the Science expert -- the "Mr. Spock" of the bunch.
Stewart was the "New Eve" for the colonization breeding effort.
And Landon was the top-notch Pilot who was supposed to land the ship
[note that it is Landon who reminds the other two surviving
astronauts that their ship was NOT programmed to land in the water,
etc etc]. Just the sort of information we would expect from the guy
slated to FLY the ship down from its orbital-approach flightpath
through RE-ENTRY.

That's my thought on this, anyway.

.

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of patrickmichaeltilton
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 2:54 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Golden Boy of the Class of '72

"the Class of '72"

.

On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Neil Foster < ntfoster@...> wrote:

Good theory Patrick, I can accept that happening.

 

Neil

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of patrickmichaeltilton
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 2:33 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Subject: [PotaDG] Unflubbing ain't pointless, by Gawd!

Because some part of the ship BEHIND that aft bulkhead must have
detached from the once-airtight cockpit/cabin section. I'm thinking
EXPLOSIVE BOLTS going off to separate the cabin section from the aft
section, like when the Apollo rockets jettisoned their used-up stages.

By the time the ship is about to sink below the surface, it is only
the cockpit/cabin section still there, the rest of the ship having
been jettisoned so that those further-back sections are already on
their way to the bottom of the lake and, hence, INVISIBLE to anybody
looking down at the about-to-sink remainder of the ship.

.

----- Original Message -----
From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 4:41 pm
Subject: RE: RE: [PotaDG] Begins again begin again.....

> Aw shucks thanks Dario, but don't worry I know these comics are all
> aboutNeil and I wouldn't have it any other way.
>
>
>
> I'll do what I have to do to keep him busy! ;)
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of
> Dario Sciola
> Sent: Thursday, 22 January 2009 1:19 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: RE: [PotaDG] Begins again begin again.....
>
> Nice job... BOTH of you.
>
> Dario
>
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, TZer0@... wrote:
>
> Are you?
> And it must be great living in that bullet proof bunker of
yours. ; )
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 1/22/2009 2:39:33 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> sallywhitty@... writes:
>
> “Are you serious”
>
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, TZer0@... wrote:
>
> Are you?
> And it must be great living in that bullet proof bunker of
yours. ; )
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 1/22/2009 2:39:33 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> sallywhitty@... writes:
>
> “Are you serious”
>
> **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in
just 2 easy
> steps!
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, TZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> The only suggestion I can offer is that the
> upper muzzle needs to come in more at the
> mouth. The widest point should be at the point
> of the hair on the cheek. After that it tapers in.
>
>
> In a message dated 1/22/2009 11:53:10 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> jessicarotich@... writes:
>
> Any suggestions?
>
>
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