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*** I am in search of address/contacts for a few of those guys right now... I've hit the wall on Eldon Burke though, and no luck with Bobby Potter either... ***

 

 

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Cougar I agree completely its time we really hunt these people out

 

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*** Oh, I'm sure I am the one in the minority on this one... I know both films have die-hard audiences, I'm just not in them... I will say my post may have came across as a little strong though, I don't dislike them quite as much as it seemed when I reread my post, but I still do find Omega Man boring in spots... As for Soylent Green, maybe it's not crap, but I flashed back to the first time I seen it on a local TV station. When they showed the commercial for it, I thought "That looks cool!" but I was very disappointed and because of that all these years later that still sticks in my head... ***

 

 

In a message dated 2/9/09 12:16:47 AM Central Standard Time, hoknescards@... writes:

Everyone has different taste but maybe its his acting, maybe its the sci-fi interest, or maybe its the early 70s that attracts me but I  LOVE !!!  Omega Man and Soylent Green

they both rock!

 

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To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 10:24 PM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Heston/BENEATH

*** Oh, I'm sure I am the one in the minority on this one... I know both films have die-hard audiences, I'm just not in them... I will say my post may have came across as a little strong though, I don't dislike them quite as much as it seemed when I reread my post, but I still do find Omega Man boring in spots... As for Soylent Green, maybe it's not crap, but I flashed back to the first time I seen it on a local TV station. When they showed the commercial for it, I thought "That looks cool!" but I was very disappointed and because of that all these years later that still sticks in my head... ***

 

 

In a message dated 2/9/09 12:16:47 AM Central Standard Time, hoknescards@ shaw.ca writes:

Everyone has different taste but maybe its his acting, maybe its the sci-fi interest, or maybe its the early 70s that attracts me but I  LOVE !!!  Omega Man and Soylent Green

they both rock!

 

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According to a few of my friends, I 've shown them all 3 versions (Last Man on Earth, Omega Man , I Am Legend)they say ALL 3 are boring.  Myself, I LOVE Omega Man.  I saw Soylent Green in the Theatre.  I loved it then, Ilike it now.

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To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 10:24 PM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Heston/BENEATH

*** Oh, I'm sure I am the one in the minority on this one... I know both films have die-hard audiences, I'm just not in them... I will say my post may have came across as a little strong though, I don't dislike them quite as much as it seemed when I reread my post, but I still do find Omega Man boring in spots... As for Soylent Green, maybe it's not crap, but I flashed back to the first time I seen it on a local TV station. When they showed the commercial for it, I thought "That looks cool!" but I was very disappointed and because of that all these years later that still sticks in my head... ***

 

 

In a message dated 2/9/09 12:16:47 AM Central Standard Time, hoknescards@ shaw.ca writes:

Everyone has different taste but maybe its his acting, maybe its the sci-fi interest, or maybe its the early 70s that attracts me but I  LOVE !!!  Omega Man and Soylent Green

they both rock!

 

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In BATTLE when the Captain returns from tracking Caesar, MacDonald, & Virgil, he describes the city to Kolp, he also mentions the orchards and vineyards and says "Enough to feed hundreds"... The line is clearly overdubbed when he says that...

 

Does anyone have a script to check if that was the original line or was it a different amount (perhaps "thousands" as they say in the BATTLE book and record set)...

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To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 10:31 PM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Heston/BENEATH

I will have to watch Last Man On Earth never saw it

Ironically I saw I Am Legend before Omega Man

and i think both are great

and I actually like the Will Smith version the best - its amazing graphics - almost gave me nightmares LOL

but the Omega Man has such a unique 70s mood to it that it stands out on its own- very cool

 

 

According to a few of my friends, I 've shown them all 3 versions (Last Man on Earth, Omega Man , I Am Legend)they say ALL 3 are boring.  Myself, I LOVE Omega Man.  I saw Soylent Green in the Theatre.  I loved it then, Ilike it now.

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To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 10:24 PM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Heston/BENEATH

*** Oh, I'm sure I am the one in the minority on this one... I know both films have die-hard audiences, I'm just not in them... I will say my post may have came across as a little strong though, I don't dislike them quite as much as it seemed when I reread my post, but I still do find Omega Man boring in spots... As for Soylent Green, maybe it's not crap, but I flashed back to the first time I seen it on a local TV station. When they showed the commercial for it, I thought "That looks cool!" but I was very disappointed and because of that all these years later that still sticks in my head... ***

 

 

In a message dated 2/9/09 12:16:47 AM Central Standard Time, hoknescards@ shaw.ca writes:

Everyone has different taste but maybe its his acting, maybe its the sci-fi interest, or maybe its the early 70s that attracts me but I  LOVE !!!  Omega Man and Soylent Green

they both rock!

 

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In a message dated 2/9/09 12:36:00 AM Central Standard Time, MLCCOUGAR writes:

Does anyone have a script to check if that was the original line or was it a different amount (perhaps "thousands" as they say in the BATTLE book and record set)...

 

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If Heston hadn't done Beneath they wouldn't have made it, or the sequels.

 

 

In a message dated 2/8/2009 2:41:51 P.M. Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

Beneath, or a sequel, would have done fine WITHOUT Heston.  That's my point……

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This is where I lose touch with my cousins across the pond.

I'm not even sure I've seen a complete episode of East Enders,

though the little woman is a fan.  And unless he played the say

role from Grange Hill on The Young Ones I have no idea who

this guy is. At least he knows his Apes though. Gotta give him that.

 

In a message dated 2/8/2009 5:09:09 P.M. Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

http://www.dailyrec ord.co.uk/ entertainment/ entertainment- catch-
all/2009/02/ 07/what-i- love-and- hate-86908- 21103592/

What I Love... And Hate
Feb 7 2009

By Shane Richie, Ex-Eastender And Star Of Minder

TV: I love QI - I'm a big fan of Stephen Fry. I tape those when
they're shown on Dave, and I'll watch the new series. I'd love to be
on it but I don't know if I have the bottle.

You have to be very sharp on that show and I'm not as sharp as I like
to think. I hate bad children's TV. I've become a connoisseur of
kids' TV because of my two year old and, unless it lives up to Lazy
Town, everything is bad.

FILM: My favourite movie is the original Planet of the Apes. I've got
a massive collection of memorabilia from it. The wagon from the film,
that they threw Charlton Heston into, is in my front garden. And in
my office I've got a seven-foot gorilla with original prosthetics and
clothes. There-make didn't work for me.

HOLIDAY: We've just got back from Lanzarote and had a ball. Everyone
kept going on about it being Lanza-grotty but the whole family went
and we had a fantastic time. We love New York, and the Maldives takes
some beating. I'm also a Disney World fan. I was disappointed by the
Bahamas.

FOOD: I really love shepherd's pie. My mum-in-law does the best pie
ever. I'm afraid I'm not a big fan of red cabbage.

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Not true. He did it as a favor to Znauck.

Zanuck agreed to do the first one.  Heston

even took his pay for Beneath and donated

it to his son Fraiser's school. He only agreed

to do it because they assured him they's kill

off his character.  They said they couldn't

get financing without his name attached to

the project.  So take your hat off to the man.

As weak as the sequels are, they'd be worse,

if they got made at all, if it hadn't been for his

efforts.  He is the cornerstone of these films.

 

 

In a message dated 2/8/2009 5:22:23 P.M. Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

Heston didn't do it as a favour for us....he did it for his career!

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*** Which is true, but it's stupid... I mean face it, he wasn't in BENEATH all that much and it held everyone's attention so it shows that an APES film could work without him... Plus, as said earlier, FOX was itching to do a $equel, so they would have realized they didn't "need" Heston to make another film... ***

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>   As for who's left to interview from PLANET: How about Lou Wagner/Felix Silla?

We're constantly trying, but to date neither Lou Wagner or Felix Silla have responded to our requests.

> Stuntman and TV series extra Eldon Burke

Can't locate him.

> William Creber

Turned us down.

> Heston's kids

Have to admit we've never even thought of that. We did once try James Franciscus' sister!

>Bill Blake

Didn't work out.

As a general rule of thumb - and I'm sure Terry will back this up - if you approach 50 subjects 10 of those might agree to an interview. Of those 10 maybe 2 or 3 will actually respond. Of those 2 or 3 maybe 1 response will be more than a sentence or two and be publishable.

I'm not complaining, just telling you how it is.

Dave B
Simian Scrolls

<jamesmontague55@...> wrote:

I saw a friend's issue and I am more

> than a little happy that I've not parted with any coin!

Hi James,

We're happy too, our advice to anyone who doesn't like what we're
doing is not to buy it.

> 35 pages (one of the shortest ever).

35 pages is an impossibility.

> No letters pages.

There never has been a letters page.

> A FULL PAGE of that janet of the apes bile (the only artwork in the
> whole thing!).

There was artwork on the front and back pages.

> A post lifted from the DG that takes up 2 pages! I have to woner if
> anyone sought your permission to reprint this because if so you were
> INVOLVED in a conspiracy.

We sought permission of the author, Pat Tilton, and the DG also
received credit.

> then again who the fuck else is there left to interview!?

Who indeed?

> To tell the truth the issue looks rushed and half arsed if you ask me.

Half arsed maybe... rushed? definitely not.

Dave B
Simian Scrolls

The problem isn't a new one , money is king .
without Heston there wouldn't have been the budget if any to make the
first or second film.
The remaining three films i think the budget was a lot lower but fox
may have put up the money ( after all they made a few quid from the
first two films ).
Also even today there are many films that i dont think would have
gotten made if not getting a big named leading lady or man for the
role.
Its what they call a bargaining tool to get funding nothing new, and
if people think thats the only way Planet got made so be it, but
thank god it did.
Dont forget at that time most studio's wouldn't even touch it , like
many studio's Fox has made some rubbish films but has for Planet of
The Apes.
We must pay homage to Fox and Heston who was there from the start
when make-up was the only stumbling block, on can it or cant it be
done without everyone laughing.
Mark

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> *** Which is true, but it's stupid... I mean face it, he wasn't in
BENEATH
> all that much and it held everyone's attention so it shows that an
APES film
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do a
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>*** There's a difference though... PLANET is an excellent film...
>OMEGA MAN is boring as hell and SOYLENT GREEN isn't just people, it's crap!

LOL!! I agree--Soylent Green is pretty ridiculous. I tried watching
it recently, for the first time in a long time, and just found myself
cringing and shaking my head and looking at the clock a lot. It
really is kind of crappy!

>Posted by: "Terry Hoknes" hoknescards@... hoknescomics
>and I actually like the Will Smith version the best - its amazing
>graphics - almost gave me nightmares LOL

Wow, really? I personally thought the graphics were the worst thing
about the film--very cartoony and non-convincing.

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Looks like I'm late again !!!

Hope you had a good one Dario.

Best,Graham.

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> Yeah have a good one Dario.
>
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You've applied ? was it recent ?

I'll go over there now and have a look !!

Graham.

 

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> Never mind mate you can go and put in a good word with your APE FORUM group
> and get me accepted! :-)
>
>
>
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Lock in those lyrics, he was a blue coat at Butlins or Pontins.
I think he's a east end cheeky chappy
mark

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> No he wasn't, he was Alfie Moon in Eastenders.
>
> There's a photo of him inserted on a cover of Simian Scrolls. (The
one
> that Graham painted.)
>
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>
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...and he's starring in  the re-make of / sequel to Minder (70s UK show)which has just started on UK TV

(which may or may not be sacrilege )

Best,Graham.

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It's simple.  You tell me who could play the part?

Brando and Newman had been mentioned.  But it

was Heston who stuck with the project until it had

found a home and got the greenlight. And without a

Hollywood heavyweight, you get a lightweight, or at

best a welterweight, light Franciscus. I can't see him

playing Moses, or even Taylor.  Not the same flick.

   

 

In a message dated 2/8/2009 5:10:15 P.M. Central Standard Time, markhaydon3@... writes:

I have been reading your info about Heston and the fact he dominated
the film and if it would have gone better or worse without him.
One thing i would like to make a point about if it wasn't for Heston
and Robinson doing the screen tests then i'm sure it would never have
been made at all.
Fox where very un-sure if the makup could or would be convincing
enough, so we owe these dedicated actors and the make-up artists our
thanks for starters.
They needed big name's to push the film otherwise we would now be
looking at P.O.T.A's has a B movie.
I dont need to mention all the names of all that where in the film
but they had a long history of film and theatre behind them.
When it came to the follow up they didn't need Heston he had already
left his mark after all he was the leading role???
The script writers could have wrote when Brent eventually came face
to face with bright eyes he could have seen him dead, there are lots
of ways the writers could have taken it( but they wanted him in it ).
The problem which came about in the follow up films in my opionion
was the reduced budget and less for every one that followed.
Mark
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>
> Exactly... We all could have been quite happy on future Earth, but
Chuck
> forced his will on the world...
>
>
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> Didn’t work, and forced the silly time trip thing.
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No he wasn't.  Obviously that's

a joke, since everyone know it

was Nigel Planer was Neil Pye.

I mean the scene from the epi

with Neil's parents coming over.

 

 

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Okay, if you could have gotten

Sean Connery to play Taylor . . .

Itsh a Maadhoose! A Maadhoose!

 

 

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In the script on Hunter's site Taylor is only in the beginning and
end, and Brent is in the main part, but they all survive the bomb,
which only destroys the mutant city & gorilla army. So clearly
Heston's initial demand was that he'd only be in a few scenes, having
him killed off must have been a later demand, closer to filming. It's
fair enough wanting his character killed off, he obviously didn't
want to make more than one ape movie, in fact it shows some integrity
on his part, but his later demands killed off the characters (and
careers?) of Franciscus and Harrison (I can't remember if Zaius was
in the mutant city originally). They would surely have been lined up
for another sequel? And those iconic sets and costumes couldn't be
used in any of the sequels either. Personally, I wish the Earth had
been left intact, and the Planet of Apes wide open as the setting for
countless new stories.

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>
>
> Not true. He did it as a favor to Znauck.
> Zanuck agreed to do the first one. Heston
> even took his pay for Beneath and donated
> it to his son Fraiser's school. He only agreed
> to do it because they assured him they's kill
> off his character. They said they couldn't
> get financing without his name attached to
> the project. So take your hat off to the man.
> As weak as the sequels are, they'd be worse,
> if they got made at all, if it hadn't been for his
> efforts. He is the cornerstone of these films.
>
>
>
> In a message dated 2/8/2009 5:22:23 P.M. Central Standard Time,
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> Heston didn't do it as a favour for us....he did it for his
career!
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Right!
"This is a gorilla outpost. Below is this valley, planted with
orchards and vineyards, an orange grove and young banana palms.*
Enough to feed thousands. (tapping map) Their city is here.

(*We need not have seen all these.)"

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
> In BATTLE when the Captain returns from tracking Caesar, MacDonald,
&
> Virgil, he describes the city to Kolp, he also mentions the
orchards and vineyards
> and says "Enough to feed hundreds"... The line is clearly
overdubbed when he
> says that...
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Well no-one can say you and Mike haven't tried! It's a pity though,
as you kind of feel that time is running out on these chances.
Looking at Felix Silla's site:
http://www.felixsilla.com/
he seems quite proud of his Apes work. And he's got two POTA pics on
his gallery page that I hadn't seen before - the group shot of the
ape kids are all chimps, so he apparently was made up as a chimp as
well as a gorilla, if only for the wardrobe tests.
Off the top of my head, are Robert Lombardo (Marcus) and David Watson
still alive? They might have some interesting perspectives.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> > As for who's left to interview from PLANET: How about Lou
> Wagner/Felix Silla?
>
> We're constantly trying, but to date neither Lou Wagner or Felix
Silla
> have responded to our requests.
>
> > Stuntman and TV series extra Eldon Burke
>
> Can't locate him.
>
> > William Creber
>
> Turned us down.
>
> > Heston's kids
>
> Have to admit we've never even thought of that. We did once try
James
> Franciscus' sister!
>
> >Bill Blake
>
> Didn't work out.
>
> As a general rule of thumb - and I'm sure Terry will back this up -
if
> you approach 50 subjects 10 of those might agree to an interview. Of
> those 10 maybe 2 or 3 will actually respond. Of those 2 or 3 maybe 1
> response will be more than a sentence or two and be publishable.
>
> I'm not complaining, just telling you how it is.
>
> Dave B
> Simian Scrolls
>

A re-imagining of an old classic? What could possibly go wrong?!

I find the guy very cheesey and irritating, but I suppose he can't be
all bad.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Graham Hill" <shop@...> wrote:
>
>
> ...and he's starring in the re-make of / sequel to Minder (70s UK
> show)which has just started on UK TV
>
> (which may or may not be sacrilege [;)] )
>
> Best,Graham.
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@> wrote:
> >
> > No he wasn't, he was Alfie Moon in Eastenders.
> >
> > There's a photo of him inserted on a cover of Simian Scrolls.
(The one
> > that Graham painted.)
> >
> > Neil
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On
Behalf
> > Of Michael & Sally Whitty
> > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 10:31 PM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Shane Richie Confesses his love!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > He was NEIL in the Young Ones!
> >
> > .
> >
> >
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?
s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
> > sgId=51342/stime=1234182686/nc1=3848614/nc2=3858794/nc3=5202323>
> >
>

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***And I said that in one of my earlier posts on the subject... ***

 

 

In a message dated 2/9/09 7:57:00 AM Central Standard Time, markhaydon3@... writes:

One thing i would like to make a point about if it wasn't for Heston
and Robinson doing the screen tests then i'm sure it would never have
been made at all.
Fox where very un-sure if the makup could or would be convincing
enough, so we owe these dedicated actors and the make-up artists our
thanks for starters.

 

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In a message dated 2/9/09 11:03:38 AM Central Standard Time, neilmoxham@... writes:

Off the top of my head, are Robert Lombardo (Marcus) and David Watson
still alive? They might have some interesting perspectives.

 

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:43 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Heston/BENEATH

Anyway my point is that Heston had decided to do some different movies because he felt type-cast.

So much as POTA owes him, he also owed POTA.

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I finally received my copy of the Simian Scrolls.  I am saving it as a treat.  Only 15 bloody more pages to read of my dreaded book, dry as toast for the class I am taking this semester.   I can't wait to see all the hard work that went into the Simian Scrolls.  It's the only thing that's making me read my book.

Jessica.

On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Dave B < smugster2000@...> wrote:

<jamesmontague55@...> wrote:

I saw a friend's issue and I am more
> than a little happy that I've not parted with any coin!

Hi James,

We're happy too, our advice to anyone who doesn't like what we're
doing is not to buy it.

> 35 pages (one of the shortest ever).

35 pages is an impossibility.

> No letters pages.

There never has been a letters page.

> A FULL PAGE of that janet of the apes bile (the only artwork in the
> whole thing!).

There was artwork on the front and back pages.

> A post lifted from the DG that takes up 2 pages! I have to woner if
> anyone sought your permission to reprint this because if so you were
> INVOLVED in a conspiracy.

We sought permission of the author, Pat Tilton, and the DG also
received credit.

> then again who the fuck else is there left to interview!?

Who indeed?

> To tell the truth the issue looks rushed and half arsed if you ask me.

Half arsed maybe... rushed? definitely not.

Dave B
Simian Scrolls

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 7:08 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Boulle

Don’t forget Boulle!

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 11:35 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Shane Richie Confesses his love!

...and he's starring in  the re-make of / sequel to Minder (70s UK show)which has just started on UK TV

(which may or may not be sacrilege )

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Michael, I only know how to obtain one in the US.  Perhaps Graham knows where you can purchase this?

Jessica.

On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 1:13 PM, Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...> wrote:

I'd like to buy a copy of SS for myself, but I don't anymore know how to.

 

I did ask a few weeks ago but nobody responded.

 

Michael

 

---

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Terry Hoknes
Sent: Monday, 9 February 2009 4:15 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Simian Scrolls

 

Thanks Mark

I hope you will sometime check out issues of Ape Chronicles and Simian Scrolls

 

 

 

I don't know you but have just been reading about the complaints that
you have been recieving, firstly i think that the person in question
should keep these views of the forum , unless it has affected many
members after the person has tried to sort it out .
however i have never bought any of your publications , but personally
anyone who puts the time and effort into a production like this then
i think takes dedication .
Long may it continue and all the best from a P.O.T.A's fan ( without
all the political crap )
Mark
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Terry Hoknes" <hoknescards@...>
wrote:
>
> Thanks for addressing the issue
> but I was under the impression you were saying I had ripped you off
of money
> but if you simply didn't like something you read than I don't see
the reason to cut me down
>
> However I do agree you are entitled to your own opinion so if you
didn't personally like than that is fine
> Can't please everyone !
>
> But if you do know anything about fanzines they are a compilation
of whatever materials are compiled by fans etc.
> I can only assemble what people send me or I personaly write or
collect
> So if people want to criticize any fanzines I always suggest that
they help give some input to make it better
> thanks!
>
>
>
>
>
> Nothing political but I do say what I think and I will offer this:
>
> Are you sure that you read it? I saw a friend's issue and I am
more
> than a little happy that I've not parted with any coin!
>
> 35 pages (one of the shortest ever).
>
> No letters pages.
>
> A FULL PAGE of that janet of the apes bile (the only artwork in
the
> whole thing!).
>
> A post lifted from the DG that takes up 2 pages! I have to woner
if
> anyone sought your permission to reprint this because if so you
were
> INVOLVED in a conspiracy.
>
> Sure some of the people they interviewed for the '40th
anniversary'
> were from left field, a guy who worked as a hairsylist on films
and
> did some Apes stuff, a new york times reporter who was on the set
> etc. but then again who the fuck else is there left to interview!?
>
> To tell the truth the issue looks rushed and half arsed if you
ask me.
>
> JM
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
> <sallywhitty@> wrote:
> >
> > Just back from a visit to Neil where I read the latest Simian
> Scrolls (40th
> > Anniversary Edition).
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm pleased to say that this is back to the good old days of
> Scrolls where
> > every page is a treat.
> >
> >
> >
> > Well done to everyone involved.
> >
> >
> >
> > One thing I was particularly excited about is the article on
Comics
> by Rich
> > Handley (author of the new POTA Timeline book).
> >
> >
> >
> > Being the first thing that exposed me to POTA I have a
particularly
> warm
> > feeling about the monthly Curtis magazines and often I can
recall
> parts of
> > my childhood (weddings, funerals, celebrations) and I know
> precisely what
> > issue I was reading at the time!
> >
> >
> >
> > I recently asked if anyone has noticed some exciting stuff on
> eBay. Well
> > I'm referring to the comic pages that have been offered for
> purchase.
> >
> >
> >
> > There's 3 more pages to add to the page Rich refers to in the
> Scrolls
> > article, attributed to Sonny Trinidad (but denied by him as
being
> his work)
> > and also some deleted pages from BATTLE where you can actually
> EASILY see
> > where they would slip in.
> >
> >
> >
> > Neil - are you able to upload these pages to the files?
> >
> >
> >
> > The 3 additional pages really bring light to the one page Rich
> originally
> > sourced and who knows..maybe the rest are out there somewhere?
> >
> >
> >
> > It seems sure that the entire comic was at least WRITTEN (by
whom?)
> and at
> > least these 4 pages (maybe more?) drawn.
> >
> >
> >
> > This is an ongoing mystery but if there's any comics out there
from
> the era
> > I'd love to see them find the light of day.
> >
> >
> >
> > Rich - with the 3 new pages having been found, would you
consider
> re-asking
> > sonny about these?
> >
> >
> >
> > Similarly, would you consider re-asking Mr Moench? I reckon if
we
> find a
> > script we could con Foster into doing a Sonny style and
complete the
> > comic..!
> >
> > Uh oh, he's just fainted again..
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael
> >
>

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ahh... you see that's the thing, it's a sequel with a  contemporary setting.

Shane plays Archie  Daley (must of took oh... minutes to come up with that) Arthur's nephew, who's a chip of the old block.

Best,Graham.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> Oh please no. Who's going to play the role of Arthur Daley?
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Graham Hill
> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 11:35 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Shane Richie Confesses his love!
>
>
> ...and he's starring in the re-make of / sequel to Minder (70s UK
> show)which has just started on UK TV
>
> (which may or may not be sacrilege ;)
> <http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/03.gif> )
>
> .
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
> sgId=51348/stime=1234186484/nc1=3858796/nc2=3848627/nc3=4836042>
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "nlmoxham" <neilmoxham@...> wrote:
>
> A re-imagining of an old classic? What could possibly go wrong?!
>

I couldn't possibly comment

Graham

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:18 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Shane Richie Confesses his love!

ahh... you see that's the thing, it's a sequel with a contemporary setting.

Shane plays Archie  Daley (must of took oh... minutes to come up with that) Arthur's nephew, who's a chip of the old block.

.

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
>
> Michael, I only know how to obtain one in the US. Perhaps Graham knows
> where you can purchase this?
>
> Jessica.
>

 

hmm, not sure ? I get mine from John but we're both in the UK so not sure if he sends them out to other parts of the world.

I can give him an E-mail... but he should be around here somewhere.

Where does Neil get his from?

Dave ?? Does John send to the other side of the World ?

Graham.

 

 

> I'd like to buy a copy of SS for myself, but I don't anymore know how to.

> I did ask a few weeks ago but nobody responded.

Not quite true; I posted Kass's announcement here after you asked. I
don't know if she ships them Down Under or not, though.

Hunter

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Graham Hill
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 8:27 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Simian Scrolls

hmm, not sure ? I get mine from John but we're both in the UK so not sure if he sends them out to other parts of the world.

I can give him an E-mail... but he should be around here somewhere.

Where does Neil get his from?

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Respectfully, Hunter, and for the cause of accuracy and not to drag
anything on, it is actually true.

Your response was not to the post about me asking for details on how
to get it but to one where I asked if it was out yet (Post #50302 )

Here's what I asked and neither Dave nor anyone responded and
explained how to get it as far as I can remember.

I used to distribute the "South Pacific" issues until there was a
falling out/misunderstanding. Personally, I'm over all that and I
thought everyone involved was over it and I would gladly offer to do
a "southern Hemisphere" distribution again if it's required.

I've been very nice here avbout the latest issue and, although I read
Neil's copy, I'd like to purchase a copy for myself.

I live in Australia and would require it sent via AIR MAIL (Rich
Handley can tell you all WHY!:) ).

How do I get a copy? WHo do I pay? DO I pay or is it how it
was "receive today, pay upon reciept"? Sorry I'm completely out of
touch with this but I am sincerely trying to mend broken bridges here
and I'm feeling like a complete fool for making any attempt at all
now.

Michael

#50349 From: "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@...>
Date: Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:20 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Calling Dave Ballard.....come in Dave....
mike_oz2002


Sounds great Dave.


For newbies here, how do people get a copy?

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
>
> > I'd like to buy a copy of SS for myself, but I don't anymore know
how to.
>
> > I did ask a few weeks ago but nobody responded.
>
> Not quite true; I posted Kass's announcement here after you asked.
I
> don't know if she ships them Down Under or not, though.
>
> Hunter
>

> Your response was not to the post about me asking for details on how
> to get it but to one where I asked if it was out yet (Post #50302 )

True, but in either case, the details on how to get a copy were in the
post the post I forwarded. AFAIK, Kass is the only link outside of
John himself. I would suggest that you write to Kass and ask her
about the details of getting a copy sent Down Under.

Hunter

Thanks Hunter

Dave or John - if you feel like tellingme how Aussies and New
Zealanders (any other Southern Hemisphere countries that subscribe?)
get a copy of SS, I'd appreciate it.

Again, if you want me to distribute copies for you I'm availabel and
willing.

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
>
> > Your response was not to the post about me asking for details on how
> > to get it but to one where I asked if it was out yet (Post #50302 )
>
> True, but in either case, the details on how to get a copy were in the
> post the post I forwarded. AFAIK, Kass is the only link outside of
> John himself. I would suggest that you write to Kass and ask her
> about the details of getting a copy sent Down Under.
>
> Hunter
>

Oh yes they would have!

ell, I doubt they'd have passed the opportunity to make a buck but it
might have had a VERY small budget!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, TZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> If Heston hadn't done Beneath they wouldn't have made it, or the
sequels.
>
>
>
> In a message dated 2/8/2009 2:41:51 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> sallywhitty@... writes:
>
> Beneath, or a sequel, would have done fine WITHOUT Heston.
That’s my point
> ……
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Is Heston your hero T? :)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, TZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> Not true. He did it as a favor to Znauck.
> Zanuck agreed to do the first one. Heston
> even took his pay for Beneath and donated
> it to his son Fraiser's school. He only agreed
> to do it because they assured him they's kill
> off his character. They said they couldn't
> get financing without his name attached to
> the project. So take your hat off to the man.
> As weak as the sequels are, they'd be worse,
> if they got made at all, if it hadn't been for his
> efforts. He is the cornerstone of these films.
>
>
>
> In a message dated 2/8/2009 5:22:23 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> sallywhitty@... writes:
>
> Heston didn't do it as a favour for us....he did it for his
career!
>
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I agree!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
> *** Which is true, but it's stupid... I mean face it, he wasn't in
BENEATH
> all that much and it held everyone's attention so it shows that an
APES film
> could work without him... Plus, as said earlier, FOX was itching to
do a
> $equel, so they would have realized they didn't "need" Heston to
make another
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>

Can you elaborate?

Michael W
POTADG

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:

> >Bill Blake
>
> Didn't work out.

> Dave B
> Simian Scrolls
>


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> > As for who's left to interview from PLANET: How about Lou
> Wagner/Felix Silla?
>
> We're constantly trying, but to date neither Lou Wagner or Felix
Silla
> have responded to our requests.
>
> > Stuntman and TV series extra Eldon Burke
>
> Can't locate him.
>
> > William Creber
>
> Turned us down.
>
> > Heston's kids
>
> Have to admit we've never even thought of that. We did once try
James
> Franciscus' sister!
>
> >Bill Blake
>
> Didn't work out.
>
> As a general rule of thumb - and I'm sure Terry will back this up -
if
> you approach 50 subjects 10 of those might agree to an interview. Of
> those 10 maybe 2 or 3 will actually respond. Of those 2 or 3 maybe 1
> response will be more than a sentence or two and be publishable.
>
> I'm not complaining, just telling you how it is.
>
> Dave B
> Simian Scrolls
>

Well put there Dave!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Dave B" <smugster2000@...> wrote:
>
> <jamesmontague55@> wrote:
>
> I saw a friend's issue and I am more
> > than a little happy that I've not parted with any coin!
>
> Hi James,
>
> We're happy too, our advice to anyone who doesn't like what we're
> doing is not to buy it.
>
> > 35 pages (one of the shortest ever).
>
> 35 pages is an impossibility.
>
> > No letters pages.
>
> There never has been a letters page.
>
> > A FULL PAGE of that janet of the apes bile (the only artwork in
the
> > whole thing!).
>
> There was artwork on the front and back pages.
>
> > A post lifted from the DG that takes up 2 pages! I have to woner
if
> > anyone sought your permission to reprint this because if so you
were
> > INVOLVED in a conspiracy.
>
> We sought permission of the author, Pat Tilton, and the DG also
> received credit.
>
> > then again who the fuck else is there left to interview!?
>
> Who indeed?
>
> > To tell the truth the issue looks rushed and half arsed if you
ask me.
>
> Half arsed maybe... rushed? definitely not.
>
> Dave B
> Simian Scrolls
>

Well it WAS recent.....but it's about 12 hours ago now! :)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Graham Hill" <shop@...> wrote:
>
>
> You've applied ? was it recent ?
>
> I'll go over there now and have a look !!
>
> Graham.
>
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
> <sallywhitty@> wrote:
> >
> > Never mind mate you can go and put in a good word with your APE
FORUM
> group
> > and get me accepted! :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On
Behalf
> Of
> > Graham Hill
> > Sent: Monday, 9 February 2009 10:33 PM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Happy Birthday, Dario!
> >
> >
> >
> > Looks like I'm late again !!!
> >
> > Hope you had a good one Dario.
> >
> > Best,Graham.
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" ntfoster@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Yeah have a good one Dario.
> > >
> > > Neil
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On
> Behalf
> > > Of Michael & Sally Whitty
> > > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 6:45 AM
> > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Happy Birthday, Dario!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey - Dario my man! Have a great day dude!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > .
> > >
> > >
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?
s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
> > > sgId=51296/stime=1234125915/nc1=3848621/nc2=3858793/nc3=5170420>
> > >
> >
>

ANOTHER remake?

What's it like?

I must say I like the US Life On Mars and I thought it would STINK!

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Graham Hill" <shop@...> wrote:
>
>
> ...and he's starring in the re-make of / sequel to Minder (70s UK
> show)which has just started on UK TV
>
> (which may or may not be sacrilege [;)] )
>
> Best,Graham.
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@> wrote:
> >
> > No he wasn't, he was Alfie Moon in Eastenders.
> >
> > There's a photo of him inserted on a cover of Simian Scrolls.
(The one
> > that Graham painted.)
> >
> > Neil
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
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Behalf
> > Of Michael & Sally Whitty
> > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 10:31 PM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Shane Richie Confesses his love!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > He was NEIL in the Young Ones!
> >
> > .
> >
> >
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Thanks Dave!

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I'm with the Moxter!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "nlmoxham" <neilmoxham@...> wrote:
>
> In the script on Hunter's site Taylor is only in the beginning and
> end, and Brent is in the main part, but they all survive the bomb,
> which only destroys the mutant city & gorilla army. So clearly
> Heston's initial demand was that he'd only be in a few scenes,
having
> him killed off must have been a later demand, closer to filming.
It's
> fair enough wanting his character killed off, he obviously didn't
> want to make more than one ape movie, in fact it shows some
integrity
> on his part, but his later demands killed off the characters (and
> careers?) of Franciscus and Harrison (I can't remember if Zaius was
> in the mutant city originally). They would surely have been lined
up
> for another sequel? And those iconic sets and costumes couldn't be
> used in any of the sequels either. Personally, I wish the Earth had
> been left intact, and the Planet of Apes wide open as the setting
for
> countless new stories.
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, TZer0@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Not true. He did it as a favor to Znauck.
> > Zanuck agreed to do the first one. Heston
> > even took his pay for Beneath and donated
> > it to his son Fraiser's school. He only agreed
> > to do it because they assured him they's kill
> > off his character. They said they couldn't
> > get financing without his name attached to
> > the project. So take your hat off to the man.
> > As weak as the sequels are, they'd be worse,
> > if they got made at all, if it hadn't been for his
> > efforts. He is the cornerstone of these films.
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 2/8/2009 5:22:23 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> > sallywhitty@ writes:
> >
> > Heston didn't do it as a favour for us....he did it for his
> career!
> >
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OK and you know what else?

I actually asked this AFTER reading Neil's.

SO I guess I know where he got his from eh?

Sorry everyone - I really feel like a dick now!

No, I feel like I AM a dick....not I feel like I WANT one!

So the answer is:

FROM VALERIE WILLIAMS PARISH!

Lucky i'm not such a prat that I can't laugh at myself eh?

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Hunter Goatley <goathunter@...> wrote:
>
> > Your response was not to the post about me asking for details on how
> > to get it but to one where I asked if it was out yet (Post #50302 )
>
> True, but in either case, the details on how to get a copy were in the
> post the post I forwarded. AFAIK, Kass is the only link outside of
> John himself. I would suggest that you write to Kass and ask her
> about the details of getting a copy sent Down Under.
>
> Hunter
>

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No.  Is he your Anti-Hero?

 

 

In a message dated 2/9/2009 8:21:44 P.M. Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

Is Heston your hero T? :)

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael Whitty" <sallywhitty@...> wrote:

> Dave or John - if you feel like tellingme how Aussies and New
> Zealanders (any other Southern Hemisphere countries that subscribe?)
> get a copy of SS, I'd appreciate it.

I've never been involved in the distribution side of things (nor would
I want to be!) So I'd suggest anyone interested in obtaining a copy
contact John as their first port of call. His details are on the homepage.

Thanks,
Dave

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Not wanting to put words into Dave's mouth... but can you imagine putting a  few hundred subs copies in  envelope   after a full day at work,  definitely not my idea of fun

Graham.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Why not?
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Dave B
> Sent: Tuesday, 10 February 2009 5:07 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Simian Scrolls
>
>
>
> I've never been involved in the distribution side of things (nor would
> I want to be!)
>

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I hate the taste of stamps! --- On Tue, 2/10/09, Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...> wrote: From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Simian Scrolls To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 8:11 AM Why not?   From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Dave B Sent: Tuesday, 10 February 2009 5:07 PM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Simian Scrolls   I've never been involved in the distribution side of things (nor would I want to be!)

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Yes, but I suppose we never will.

 

 

In a message dated 2/10/2009 2:10:23 A.M. Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

Wouldn't you T?

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>Posted by: "dave ballard" smugster2000@... smugster2000
>I hate the taste of stamps!

I take it you guys don't have self-adhesive stamps in the UK? :)

Of course we do... but they stick to your tongue and taste even worse! :0) Dave --- On Tue, 2/10/09, Rich Handley <handleyr@...> wrote: From: Rich Handley <handleyr@...> I take it you guys don't have self-adhesive stamps in the UK? :) ------------------------------------ To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:PotaDG-digest@yahoogroups.com mailto:PotaDG-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: PotaDG-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com <*> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

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In a message dated 2/10/09 2:27:25 AM Central Standard Time, shop@... writes:

Not wanting to put words into Dave's mouth... but can you imagine putting a  few hundred subs copies in  envelope  after a full day at work,  definitely not my idea of fun

 

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Thanks for the whole thread on my birthday. I would have replied
sooner but I was out of town and had tons of emails to go through when
I got back.

I received my copy of Rich's Timeline book and wanted to comment a bit
on that. But it's so HUGE that it'll take me a while to read. But I
can say that it's as comprehensive as he could have made it, even
incorporating the William T. Quick prequel novels (The Fall and
Colony) published to the 2001 POTA novelization. (I know that may be
blsphemous to some, but I'm just illustrating that Rich left no stone
unturned.) My copy is a softcover. Weren't the originals Hardcover? I
would have prefered a hardcover, but the lulu site only indicates
softcover for sale.

Speaking of POTA books, I've done a bit of indirect POTA reading on my
own: "Homo Genus" which is a science fiction novel featuring talking
apes mentioned in some old threads here that *may* have been an
inspiration to Boulle. I managed to find a copy and recently read it.
I'll send another post with a review I wrote for the novel.

Dario

----- Original Message -----
From: Graham Hill <shop@...>
Date: Monday, February 9, 2009 7:33 am
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Happy Birthday, Dario!

>
> Looks like I'm late again !!!
>
> Hope you had a good one Dario.
>
> Best,Graham.
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah have a good one Dario.
> >
> > Neil
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On
> Behalf> Of Michael & Sally Whitty
> > Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 6:45 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Happy Birthday, Dario!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hey - Dario my man! Have a great day dude!
> >
> >
> >
> > .
> >
> >
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>
>

Here's a book review for "Genus Homo" that I wrote for an SF site.

Dario
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Genus Homo (L. Sprague de Camp and P. Schuyler Miller - 1950)

As an avid Planet of the Apes fan and enthusiast, I enjoy searching
out all literature on the subject, including those not directly
associated with the series, but those whose themes mirror the POTA
scenario.

The novel Genus Homo, jointly penned by L. Sprague de Camp and P.
Schuyler Miller, and predates Pierre Boulle's Planet of the Apes novel
by more than a decade, fits that mold perfectly.

The story begins with a busload of people waking up after some sort of
geological event which knocked out all the passengers on the trip.
They find thenselves overturned and in the dark and as the slowly
awake to assess the situation, determine that they are in some
underground cave. They make their way to the top and immediately note
that they seem to be in some remote wilderness and thus must have been
displaced from the normal bus route they were on. They also see that
the climate has changed drastically from the time they were last awake
on the bus and discern that they must have been asleep or comatose for
a significant amount of time as well. As a number of passengers are
scientist of various disciplines, their suspended state is attributed
to a leaked gas that one of the scientists was transporting. As the
trek in search of civilization proceeds, they realize that they are
much further from civilization than can possible be explained a mere
displacement of the bus. After a few encounters with oversized animals
and heretofore unknown species, the group comes to realize that they
have somehow been projected into the far future.

The predicament of the group quickly leads to a requirement of a new
social order, and the protagonist of the novel, a chemist named
Bridger finds himself as a leader. He is quickly deposed, and just as
quickly reinstated as the group realizes that a fair solid thinker is
better than a coniving lawyer. The groups deals with issues such as
sex (a group of dancers are part of the mix), scientific analysis of
the situation (a group of scientists were on their way to a seminar),
and a few people who simply want to do as they please.

It is only after all these are explored does the group finally come
into contact with apes (supposedly evolved gorillas) that are
intelligent. A few humans are captured and placed into a zoo for a few
days when the captors realize that they are no mere animals. Another
ape is brought in evidently to test the intelligence of the humans.
The two groups soon establish communication through language and the
humansbegin to learn the post holocaust history of the earth which led
to the new order of 'civilization' while at the same time the apes
learn more about the past. While we never find out exactly why there
was a transition and what led to the downfall of mankind as the
preeminent species, we do know that it has been millions of years
since man last ruled the Earth, and almost all evidence of his time
has vanished. While technologically the ape civilization is a backward
one, they do have steam power, and with a disticnt lack of metals and
iron, they have advanced wood building skills as well as a much more
resistant strain of wood growth allowing them to have a far superior
wood manufacturing base.

We learn that there are other species of apes on other continents, and
that just like man before him, ape history is just as plagued by wars.
The novel ends with just such an escalation as the 'good' apes are
faced with an attacking force of baboons.

There are a lot of good points in the novel, but it is also
unsatisfying in many ways. The initial section dealing with the humans
just waking up is rather long and slow going. There a lot of human
characters for which the authors try to develop, but once the apes
come into the picture all that character development is just thrown to
the wayside. A brewing relationship between Bridger and one of the
female humans is carefully planned out and is then summarily addressed
by only a sentence or two in the very last paragraph. The apes
civilization is absolutely fascinating, but once the conflict with the
baboons comes into play, the novel concentrates on the stragegy and
climactic battle and ends the story there.

When it comes to determining whether Boulle could have read and been
influenced by Genus Homo, the answer is yes. In order to have read
Genus Homo, a french translation needed to be available for Boulle to
read. Genus Homo was first translated and sold in France as "Le règne
du gorille" in 1951, well before Boulle penned "La Planete des
singes". (Other editions came out in 1982 and again in 1984).

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it's a great book   --- On Tue, 2/10/09, Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...> wrote: From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...> Subject: [PotaDG] Rich's Timeline Book To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 3:44 PM I can't WAIT for mine! I have one on order.   In the interim, I've discovered a site that has some pages for preview and they look GREAT! There seems to be illustrations of various things (comic book covers etc) in the columns that I wasn't expecting.   I originally was skeptical about the depth and length Rich went to, but upon consideration…..if we are free to make of it what we will, then the more the better.   Michael   From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Dario Sciola Sent: Wednesday, 11 February 2009 6:34 AM To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Happy Birthday, Dario! I received my copy of Rich's Timeline book and wanted to comment a bit on that. But it's so HUGE that it'll take me a while to read. But I can say that it's as comprehensive as he could have made it, even incorporating the William T. Quick prequel novels (The Fall and Colony) published to the 2001 POTA novelization. (I know that may be blsphemous to some, but I'm just illustrating that Rich left no stone unturned.) My copy is a softcover. Weren't the originals Hardcover? I would have prefered a hardcover, but the lulu site only indicates softcover for sale. .