--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "rassmguy" <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
> If Cornelius had used it, Zira might not have loathed bananas so
much.
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@> wrote:
> > The Viagra story? Real ape fans only use Cialis, recommended by
> James Naughton!
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: nlmoxham
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 3:57 AM
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Simian Scrolls
> >
> >
> > These are from the Viraga story? I'd like to see them!
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
> > <sallywhitty@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > There's 3 more pages to add to the page Rich refers to in the
> > Scrolls
> > > article, attributed to Sonny Trinidad (but denied by him as
being
> > his work)
> > > and also some deleted pages from BATTLE where you can
actually
> > EASILY see
> > > where they would slip in.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Neil - are you able to upload these pages to the files?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The 3 additional pages really bring light to the one page
Rich
> > originally
> > > sourced and who knows..maybe the rest are out there somewhere?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It seems sure that the entire comic was at least WRITTEN (by
whom?)
> > and at
> > > least these 4 pages (maybe more?) drawn.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This is an ongoing mystery but if there's any comics out
there from
> > the era
> > > I'd love to see them find the light of day.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Rich - with the 3 new pages having been found, would you
consider
> > re-asking
> > > sonny about these?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Similarly, would you consider re-asking Mr Moench? I reckon
if we
> > find a
> > > script we could con Foster into doing a Sonny style and
complete the
> > > comic..!
> > >
> > > Uh oh, he's just fainted again..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> >
>

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 3:24 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Rich's Timeline Book

I actually sat down today and just started reading it word for word .....I'm up to the late 70's! .....! and Man Rich! You have outdone yourself.... how the hell did you keep all this straight putting this together! and so detailed.... ..!!!

GOOD WORK

 

.

>
> Maybe I'm slightly misquoting but I thought Heston said "I'll only

> if you kill him of" then he changed that to "if you blow up the

> world".
>
>
>
> Jeff - did I misunderstand slightly?
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On

> Jeff K.
> Sent: Wednesday, 11 February 2009 11:40 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Heston/BENEATH
>
>
>
> Heston suggested they blow up the Earth but it wasn't a demand.

> the main thing, as people like Mort Abrahams have said, is they

> "shock" value, like the end of the original. So it was Heston's

> takes credit for it) but they pretty much all figured it was the

> So I think blowing up the world was agreed on as the ultimate

> didn't I read that Ted Post was pissed off when he saw Heston brag

> in "Behind"? So I guess the director wasn't on the same page.
>
> Linda Harrison told me at the time she was looking forward to

> and tired of playing Nova. She'd done all she could do with her and

> series to go to ("Bracken's World"). So nobody was looking

> way we do now, what would be best for the next sequel. They weren't

> any.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: nlmoxham <mailto:neilmoxham@...>
>
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> com
>
> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 8:42 AM
>
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Heston/BENEATH
>
>
>
> In the script on Hunter's site Taylor is only in the beginning and
> end, and Brent is in the main part, but they all survive the bomb,
> which only destroys the mutant city & gorilla army. So clearly
> Heston's initial demand was that he'd only be in a few scenes,

> him killed off must have been a later demand, closer to filming.

> fair enough wanting his character killed off, he obviously didn't
> want to make more than one ape movie, in fact it shows some

> on his part, but his later demands killed off the characters (and
> careers?) of Franciscus and Harrison (I can't remember if Zaius was
> in the mutant city originally). They would surely have been lined

> for another sequel? And those iconic sets and costumes couldn't be
> used in any of the sequels either. Personally, I wish the Earth had
> been left intact, and the Planet of Apes wide open as the setting

> countless new stories.
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com,

> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Not true. He did it as a favor to Znauck.
> > Zanuck agreed to do the first one. Heston
> > even took his pay for Beneath and donated
> > it to his son Fraiser's school. He only agreed
> > to do it because they assured him they's kill
> > off his character. They said they couldn't
> > get financing without his name attached to
> > the project. So take your hat off to the man.
> > As weak as the sequels are, they'd be worse,
> > if they got made at all, if it hadn't been for his
> > efforts. He is the cornerstone of these films.
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 2/8/2009 5:22:23 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> > sallywhitty@ writes:
> >
> > Heston didn't do it as a favour for us....he did it for his
> career!
> >
> > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in
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>Posted by: "Tim "apefan"" apefan23@... apefan23
>I actually sat down today and just started reading it word for word
>.....I'm up to the late 70's! .....! and Man Rich! You have outdone
>yourself....how the hell did you keep all this straight putting this
>together! and so detailed......!!! GOOD WORK

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael & Sally Whitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 4:53 AM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Heston/BENEATH

Maybe I’m slightly misquoting but I thought Heston said “I’ll only do Taylor if you kill him of” then he changed that to “if you blow up the whole world”.

Jeff – did I misunderstand slightly?

Michael

---

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Wednesday, 11 February 2009 11:40 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Heston/BENEATH

   Heston suggested they blow up the Earth but it wasn't a demand. I think the main thing, as people like Mort Abrahams have said, is they wanted "shock" value, like the end of the original. So it was Heston's idea (or he takes credit for it) but they pretty much all figured it was the last movie. So I think blowing up the world was agreed on as the ultimate shock. Though didn't I read that Ted Post was pissed off when he saw Heston brag about it in "Behind"? So I guess the director wasn't on the same page.

  Linda Harrison told me at the time she was looking forward to moving on and tired of playing Nova. She'd done all she could do with her and had a TV series to go to ("Bracken's World"). So nobody was looking at "Beneath" the way we do now, what would be best for the next sequel. They weren't planning any.

----- Original Message -----

From: nlmoxham

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 8:42 AM

Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Heston/BENEATH

In the script on Hunter's site Taylor is only in the beginning and
end, and Brent is in the main part, but they all survive the bomb,
which only destroys the mutant city & gorilla army. So clearly
Heston's initial demand was that he'd only be in a few scenes, having
him killed off must have been a later demand, closer to filming. It's
fair enough wanting his character killed off, he obviously didn't
want to make more than one ape movie, in fact it shows some integrity
on his part, but his later demands killed off the characters (and
careers?) of Franciscus and Harrison (I can't remember if Zaius was
in the mutant city originally). They would surely have been lined up
for another sequel? And those iconic sets and costumes couldn't be
used in any of the sequels either. Personally, I wish the Earth had
been left intact, and the Planet of Apes wide open as the setting for
countless new stories.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, TZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> Not true. He did it as a favor to Znauck.
> Zanuck agreed to do the first one. Heston
> even took his pay for Beneath and donated
> it to his son Fraiser's school. He only agreed
> to do it because they assured him they's kill
> off his character. They said they couldn't
> get financing without his name attached to
> the project. So take your hat off to the man.
> As weak as the sequels are, they'd be worse,
> if they got made at all, if it hadn't been for his
> efforts. He is the cornerstone of these films.
>
>
>
> In a message dated 2/8/2009 5:22:23 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> sallywhitty@ ... writes:
>
> Heston didn't do it as a favour for us....he did it for his
career!
>
> ************ **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in
just 2 easy
> steps!
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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:53 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Heston/BENEATH

Maybe I’m slightly misquoting but I thought Heston said “I’ll only do Taylor if you kill him of” then he changed that to “if you blow up the whole world”.

.

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Whitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 4:07 PM

Subject: [PotaDG] CHRIS AND KYLEE

http://suburbanjour nals.stltoday. com/articles/ 2009/02/11/ warren/life/ 0
211war-bell0. txt

CHRIS AND KYLEE

Valentine's Day is not limited to the celebration of romantic love.
It can also be a celebration of love between family members.

Seven years ago, during Chris Slaughter's third pregnancy, her first
birthing contractions began while she was at the Belle Starr.

She, her husband, Ken, and her two sons went to see "Planet of the
Apes" though Chris was far along in her pregnancy.

"I knew my days were numbered," said Chris, who lives in the
Warrenton area.

Sure enough, Chris felt something as she walked into the theater.
When she sat down, the baby "jig-jagged, " and as the opening credits
began to roll, Chris excused herself. Her husband offered to come
with her, but she declined, not wanting to disturb the others.

"Everything was fine. I wasn't having severe contractions, but I was
getting a little nervous. They were 10 minutes apart," she said.

She rested in a back room decorated with old movie posters for most
of the movie before joining her family.

"I said a little prayer to myself, 'Oh, not tonight,' because it was
a special night," she said.

She said she felt miserable the remainder of the night, but her
prayer was answered. Approximately 24 hours later Chris went into
labor and gave birth to her only daughter, Kylee.

Seven years later, Chris still tells the story of Kylee's birth. When
she does, Kylee says, "You've told me that before."

Valentine's Day brings back those family memories for Chris because,
she said, the day is about the special people in your life.

"I'm always going to remember that night," Chris said. "She was my
first girl and it was just God's way of giving me my own little
personal valentine."

----- Original Message -----

From: Neil Foster

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 1:04 PM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Heston/BENEATH

In  Heston's 'The Actor's Life' book, he makes it sound like it was his idea:

 

September 30. Fox is now willing to accept my proposal to do a brief transition bit for them in their new version of APES. I don't think it's a good idea, but of course I'll carry out my promise to them.

* The overwhelming success of PLANET OF THE APES reasonably enough prompted Fox to undertake a sequel. I pointed out to Dick Zanuck that, while I sympathized with him from a corporate point of view, as an actor there was really no sequel possible. The only story you could tell had been told; anything further would just be adventures among the monkeys. While this might well be profitable (as indeed it was; I think they made five of them, plus a TV series), there was nothing new to act in it. Still, as Dick said, they couldn't really undertake a sequel if I weren't in it at all. Moved by this wistful observation, I offered to appear in the opening sequence, if they'd then kill me off. This proved agreeable, though they asked me to simply disappear in the opening sequence, and be killed off in the end. I agreed, thinking I could end the whole thing with a death that included the end of the world. I sold them on this, but they were cleverer than I; they still made several sequels, though without me

 

Neil

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:53 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Heston/BENEATH

Maybe I’m slightly misquoting but I thought Heston said “I’ll only do Taylor if you kill him of” then he changed that to “if you blow up the whole world”.

.

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Ruiz
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:59 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Heston/BENEATH

I don't know, Jeff.

The whole idea of doing a movie with an Alpha Omega bomb, then being surprised that's it's being used, is a bit too suspicions.

 

.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
>
> I don't know. For me personally, I wouldn't change a thing. Because
of it, we have five fresh stories in the Apes saga.
> From sequels to prequels. Had it been all 4 sequels on the Planet
of the Apes, I think it would have been too much over kill.
>
> Much like Terminator 3. T3 was good but at the sametime it was the
same old story that been told over again since T1 and T2.
> So for me that's the one good thing I see in Terminator Salvation.
It's a whole new world and direction in the saga (post atomic world).
>
> At least it's a new direction from the last 3 films.
> Again they were all good, but one more like it and I would have
seriously puked. :o)
>
> Al
>
>
>
>
> > > >

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
>
> I don't know. For me personally, I wouldn't change a thing. Because
of it, we have five fresh stories in the Apes saga.
> From sequels to prequels. Had it been all 4 sequels on the Planet
of the Apes, I think it would have been too much over kill.
>
> Much like Terminator 3. T3 was good but at the sametime it was the
same old story that been told over again since T1 and T2.
> So for me that's the one good thing I see in Terminator Salvation.
It's a whole new world and direction in the saga (post atomic world).
>
> At least it's a new direction from the last 3 films.
> Again they were all good, but one more like it and I would have
seriously puked. :o)
>
> Al
>
>
>
>
> > > >

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> 7 years ago? Was it POTA2001?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Whitty
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 4:07 PM
> Subject: [PotaDG] CHRIS AND KYLEE
>
>
>
http://suburbanjournals.stltoday.com/articles/2009/02/11/warren/life/0
> 211war-bell0.txt
>
> CHRIS AND KYLEE
>
> Valentine's Day is not limited to the celebration of romantic
love.
> It can also be a celebration of love between family members.
>
> Seven years ago, during Chris Slaughter's third pregnancy, her
first
> birthing contractions began while she was at the Belle Starr.
>
> She, her husband, Ken, and her two sons went to see "Planet of
the
> Apes" though Chris was far along in her pregnancy.
>
> "I knew my days were numbered," said Chris, who lives in the
> Warrenton area.
>
> Sure enough, Chris felt something as she walked into the theater.
> When she sat down, the baby "jig-jagged," and as the opening
credits
> began to roll, Chris excused herself. Her husband offered to come
> with her, but she declined, not wanting to disturb the others.
>
> "Everything was fine. I wasn't having severe contractions, but I
was
> getting a little nervous. They were 10 minutes apart," she said.
>
> She rested in a back room decorated with old movie posters for
most
> of the movie before joining her family.
>
> "I said a little prayer to myself, 'Oh, not tonight,' because it
was
> a special night," she said.
>
> She said she felt miserable the remainder of the night, but her
> prayer was answered. Approximately 24 hours later Chris went into
> labor and gave birth to her only daughter, Kylee.
>
> Seven years later, Chris still tells the story of Kylee's birth.
When
> she does, Kylee says, "You've told me that before."
>
> Valentine's Day brings back those family memories for Chris
because,
> she said, the day is about the special people in your life.
>
> "I'm always going to remember that night," Chris said. "She was
my
> first girl and it was just God's way of giving me my own little
> personal valentine."
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> As usual, "POTA Revisited" to the rescue.
>
> Once again, Heston says the ending of "Beneath" was his idea: "I
sold the director and producer on the idea".
>
> Director Ted Post says it was because Richard Zanuck was being
removed from Fox.
> Post: "We had other endings, but the order came down from
Dick...that was the picture I was involved with that found Dick
Zanuck not in a very happy state of mind. His conclusion about the
picture was a reflection either consciously or unconsciously of what
he felt".
>
> Both Post and James Franciscus hated the ending.
>
> Post: "The meaning of it was not too profound and, if anything,
it lacked meaning. It lacked human significance. It didn't have a
theme or a premise worth anything. If anything, it was cynical and
pessimistic because of the finish of it. I don't believe in dampening
the human spirit like that. I don't care how realistic you want to
be - I'm an optimist, basically".
>
> Franciscus: "I thought the ending was awful. A picture without
hope...I think Ted and I PLEADED for someone to survive this mess, be
it Chuck's character or the girl or Brent's character - SOMEBODY far
enough away from the explosion for whatever reason so that mankind is
still left".
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Neil Foster
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 1:04 PM
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Heston/BENEATH
>
>
>
> In Heston's 'The Actor's Life' book, he makes it sound like it
was his idea:
>
> September 30. Fox is now willing to accept my proposal to do a
brief transition bit for them in their new version of APES. I don't
think it's a good idea, but of course I'll carry out my promise to
them.
>
> * The overwhelming success of PLANET OF THE APES reasonably
enough prompted Fox to undertake a sequel. I pointed out to Dick
Zanuck that, while I sympathized with him from a corporate point of
view, as an actor there was really no sequel possible. The only story
you could tell had been told; anything further would just be
adventures among the monkeys. While this might well be profitable (as
indeed it was; I think they made five of them, plus a TV series),
there was nothing new to act in it. Still, as Dick said, they
couldn't really undertake a sequel if I weren't in it at all. Moved
by this wistful observation, I offered to appear in the opening
sequence, if they'd then kill me off. This proved agreeable, though
they asked me to simply disappear in the opening sequence, and be
killed off in the end. I agreed, thinking I could end the whole thing
with a death that included the end of the world. I sold them on this,
but they were cleverer than I; they still made several sequels,
though without me
>
> Neil
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On
Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:53 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Heston/BENEATH
>
>
> Maybe I'm slightly misquoting but I thought Heston said "I'll
only do Taylor if you kill him of" then he changed that to "if you
blow up the whole world".
>
> .
>

----- Original Message -----

From: Michael Whitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 6:08 PM

Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Heston/BENEATH

Yes - T4 will be (like Conquest and - possibly - CAESAR) how the
ROBOTS (or apes) took over. Cannot wait!

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@.. .> wrote:
>
> I don't know. For me personally, I wouldn't change a thing. Because
of it, we have five fresh stories in the Apes saga.
> From sequels to prequels. Had it been all 4 sequels on the Planet
of the Apes, I think it would have been too much over kill.
>
> Much like Terminator 3. T3 was good but at the sametime it was the
same old story that been told over again since T1 and T2.
> So for me that's the one good thing I see in Terminator Salvation.
It's a whole new world and direction in the saga (post atomic world).
>
> At least it's a new direction from the last 3 films.
> Again they were all good, but one more like it and I would have
seriously puked. :o)
>
> Al
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@ ...>
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 3:47:27 PM
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Heston/BENEATH
>
>
> Yeah I loved it too Al – it's as final as you can get really isn't
it?  J
>
> But at the same time it would have been nice to see more sequels on
the planet….
>  
> Michael
>  
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
>
> From:PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. . com ] On
Behalf Of Alex Ruiz
> Sent: Thursday, 12 February 2009 6:23 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Heston/BENEATH
>  
> Yeah, I know. 
> In the Beneath blu-rays, Ted Post said that he received a call from
Zanuck. Zanuck was fired from Fox during the filming of Beneath, so
he told Post to blow up planet.. :o)
>  
> Persoanlly I believe both Heston and Post are totally full of it.
The only reason that Alpha Omega bomb was in Beneath was for the
soul purpose of trying to eclipse Planet's original shock ending.
>  
> Worked for me. I loved it.
> But again. Both Heston and Post are both talking out of their
asses. If you ask my opionion. :o)
>  
> Al  
>  
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
>
> From:Jeff K. <veetus@earthlink. net>
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 11:38:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Heston/BENEATH
>   In "Behind" Heston said, "How about if I blow up the world?". He
never demanded anything. I get the feeling he and Zanuck were buds
and they kind of did this without the director's blessing. But Heston
portrays it as suggestions.
>  And Zanuck convinced Heston to do POTA2001.
>  
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:Michael & Sally Whitty
> To:PotaDG@yahoogrou ps. com
> Sent:Wednesday, February 11, 2009 4:53 AM
> Subject:RE: [PotaDG] Re: Heston/BENEATH
>  
> Maybe I'm slightly misquoting but I thought Heston said "I'll only
do Taylor if you kill him of" then he changed that to "if you blow up
the whole world".
> Jeff – did I misunderstand slightly?
> Michael
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
>
> From:PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On
Behalf Of Jeff K.
> Sent: Wednesday, 11 February 2009 11:40 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Heston/BENEATH
>    Heston suggested they blow up the Earth but it wasn't a demand.
I think the main thing, as people like Mort Abrahams have said, is
they wanted "shock" value, like the end of the original. So it was
Heston's idea (or he takes credit for it) but they pretty much all
figured it was the last movie. So I think blowing up the world was
agreed on as the ultimate shock. Though didn't I read that Ted Post
was pissed off when he saw Heston brag about it in "Behind"? So I
guess the director wasn't on the same page.
>   Linda Harrison told me at the time she was looking forward to
moving on and tired of playing Nova. She'd done all she could do with
her and had a TV series to go to ("Bracken's World"). So nobody was
looking at "Beneath" the way we do now, what would be best for the
next sequel. They weren't planning any.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:nlmoxham
> To:PotaDG@yahoogrou ps. com
> Sent:Monday, February 09, 2009 8:42 AM
> Subject:[PotaDG] Re: Heston/BENEATH
> In the script on Hunter's site Taylor is only in the beginning and
> end, and Brent is in the main part, but they all survive the bomb,
> which only destroys the mutant city & gorilla army. So clearly
> Heston's initial demand was that he'd only be in a few scenes,
having
> him killed off must have been a later demand, closer to filming.
It's
> fair enough wanting his character killed off, he obviously didn't
> want to make more than one ape movie, in fact it shows some
integrity
> on his part, but his later demands killed off the characters (and
> careers?) of Franciscus and Harrison (I can't remember if Zaius was
> in the mutant city originally). They would surely have been lined
up
> for another sequel? And those iconic sets and costumes couldn't be
> used in any of the sequels either. Personally, I wish the Earth had
> been left intact, and the Planet of Apes wide open as the setting
for
> countless new stories.
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, TZer0@ wrote:
> >
> >
> > Not true. He did it as a favor to Znauck.
> > Zanuck agreed to do the first one. Heston
> > even took his pay for Beneath and donated
> > it to his son Fraiser's school. He only agreed
> > to do it because they assured him they's kill
> > off his character. They said they couldn't
> > get financing without his name attached to
> > the project. So take your hat off to the man.
> > As weak as the sequels are, they'd be worse,
> > if they got made at all, if it hadn't been for his
> > efforts. He is the cornerstone of these films.
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 2/8/2009 5:22:23 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> > sallywhitty@ ... writes:
> >
> > Heston didn't do it as a favour for us....he did it for his
> career!
> >
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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 3:15 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Aussie Fire!

I hope all you Aussie guys are safe from the horrible fires down there!!!!

 

.

On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Michael Whitty < sallywhitty@...> wrote:

It forced a movement Jeff - it MUST have been!

I gave birth that day too!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
>
> 7 years ago? Was it POTA2001?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Whitty
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 4:07 PM
> Subject: [PotaDG] CHRIS AND KYLEE
>
>
>
http://suburbanjournals.stltoday.com/articles/2009/02/11/warren/life/0
> 211war-bell0.txt
>
> CHRIS AND KYLEE
>
> Valentine's Day is not limited to the celebration of romantic
love.
> It can also be a celebration of love between family members.
>
> Seven years ago, during Chris Slaughter's third pregnancy, her
first
> birthing contractions began while she was at the Belle Starr.
>
> She, her husband, Ken, and her two sons went to see "Planet of
the
> Apes" though Chris was far along in her pregnancy.
>
> "I knew my days were numbered," said Chris, who lives in the
> Warrenton area.
>
> Sure enough, Chris felt something as she walked into the theater.
> When she sat down, the baby "jig-jagged," and as the opening
credits
> began to roll, Chris excused herself. Her husband offered to come
> with her, but she declined, not wanting to disturb the others.
>
> "Everything was fine. I wasn't having severe contractions, but I
was
> getting a little nervous. They were 10 minutes apart," she said.
>
> She rested in a back room decorated with old movie posters for
most
> of the movie before joining her family.
>
> "I said a little prayer to myself, 'Oh, not tonight,' because it
was
> a special night," she said.
>
> She said she felt miserable the remainder of the night, but her
> prayer was answered. Approximately 24 hours later Chris went into
> labor and gave birth to her only daughter, Kylee.
>
> Seven years later, Chris still tells the story of Kylee's birth.
When
> she does, Kylee says, "You've told me that before."
>
> Valentine's Day brings back those family memories for Chris
because,
> she said, the day is about the special people in your life.
>
> "I'm always going to remember that night," Chris said. "She was
my
> first girl and it was just God's way of giving me my own little
> personal valentine."
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> I hope all you Aussie guys are safe from the horrible fires down
there!!!!
>
> Tim
>

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
>
> Yeah, that's when you know a movie is really great.
> When you can enjoy it the same years later. While other films are
great, but only great at the moment.
> When you can't enjoy it as much years later, that's when you
know it was just great in the moment.
>
> POTA2001 was a great example of that. For me anyway.
>
> Al
>
>
>
>
>
> >

>
> ha ha ha ha ha!!!!
>
> Jessica.
>
> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Michael Whitty

>
> > It forced a movement Jeff - it MUST have been!
> >
> > I gave birth that day too!
> >
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>, "Jeff

> > <veetus@> wrote:
> > >
> > > 7 years ago? Was it POTA2001?
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Michael Whitty
> > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 4:07 PM
> > > Subject: [PotaDG] CHRIS AND KYLEE
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >

> > > 211war-bell0.txt
> > >
> > > CHRIS AND KYLEE
> > >
> > > Valentine's Day is not limited to the celebration of romantic
> > love.
> > > It can also be a celebration of love between family members.
> > >
> > > Seven years ago, during Chris Slaughter's third pregnancy, her
> > first
> > > birthing contractions began while she was at the Belle Starr.
> > >
> > > She, her husband, Ken, and her two sons went to see "Planet of
> > the
> > > Apes" though Chris was far along in her pregnancy.
> > >
> > > "I knew my days were numbered," said Chris, who lives in the
> > > Warrenton area.
> > >
> > > Sure enough, Chris felt something as she walked into the

> > > When she sat down, the baby "jig-jagged," and as the opening
> > credits
> > > began to roll, Chris excused herself. Her husband offered to

> > > with her, but she declined, not wanting to disturb the others.
> > >
> > > "Everything was fine. I wasn't having severe contractions, but I
> > was
> > > getting a little nervous. They were 10 minutes apart," she said.
> > >
> > > She rested in a back room decorated with old movie posters for
> > most
> > > of the movie before joining her family.
> > >
> > > "I said a little prayer to myself, 'Oh, not tonight,' because it
> > was
> > > a special night," she said.
> > >
> > > She said she felt miserable the remainder of the night, but her
> > > prayer was answered. Approximately 24 hours later Chris went

> > > labor and gave birth to her only daughter, Kylee.
> > >
> > > Seven years later, Chris still tells the story of Kylee's birth.
> > When
> > > she does, Kylee says, "You've told me that before."
> > >
> > > Valentine's Day brings back those family memories for Chris
> > because,
> > > she said, the day is about the special people in your life.
> > >
> > > "I'm always going to remember that night," Chris said. "She was
> > my
> > > first girl and it was just God's way of giving me my own little
> > > personal valentine."
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>

----- Original Message -----

From: mlccougar@...

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 9:51 PM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Heston/BENEATH

*** Yeah, I don't think that would have mattered nearly as much as one might think... Look at the STAR WARS films, they're all set in the same basic area ("outer space") and yet they managed to keep things new by going to different planets, introducing new characters, etc. The same could have been done for an APES film series that was actually set on the "PLANET"... They could have really delved into the apes' society and customs, they could have had stories set in the Forbidden Zone, gone beyond the areas we seen in PLANET/BENEATH and shown more of their populated areas beyond the "APE CITY" region...

 

And one more thing, I'm not sure how you feel about the TV series, but had that gone on, it would have spent it's entire run on the "PLANET"... How would you have felt about that? Would have that been too much overkill? ***

 

 

In a message dated 2/11/09 6:26:28 PM Central Standard Time, pota1968@yahoo. com writes:

Had it been all 4 sequels on the Planet of the Apes, I think it would have been too much over kill.

 

 

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> But didn't an early version of the script have the bomb exploding
but
> not destroying the planet with Taylor, Brent and Nova surviving. I
think
> I have read somewhere that it was going to end with 2 or 3 mutated
> gorillas emerging from one of the underground tunnels?
>
> The inclusion of the bomb in the story doesn't mean that they were
> planning to have it just as an instrument for destroying the
planet. I
> though the main reason for the bomb was to highlight the absurdity
of
> the mutants worshiping the thing as a god?
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf
> Of Alex Ruiz
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:59 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Heston/BENEATH
>
>
>
> I don't know, Jeff.
> The whole idea of doing a movie with an Alpha Omega bomb, then being
> surprised that's it's being used, is a bit too suspicions.
>
> .
>
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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> he'll call you more than that and for 12 minutes!
>
>
>
>