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When it comes to movies i think i have seen a few however what i
consider to be a great film may not be the next mans favourite?
However if you want to see a modern good film that is set in modern
times and believable have you seen Fools Gold, very entertaining.
Other films Rocknrolla , in brugge , the heartbreak kid are a few
newish 2008/2009 films worth viewing
Mark
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
<sallywhitty@...> wrote:

>
> I'd put KK in there (1933), and ONCE UPON A TIME IN (The West OR

America!).

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On

Behalf Of

> Rod Barnett
> Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2009 7:32 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: One of the GREATEST films of all time!
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>

com, "Michael &

> Sally Whitty"
> <sallywhitty@> wrote:
> >
> > YES! That works fine my friend.
> >
> >
> >
> > So what else do you think is up there?
> >
> >
> >
> > I have to say Pan's Labyrinth is one..
> >
> >
> >
> > What do others think?
> >
> >
> >
>
> POTA has been on my list of favorite movies for years and I also

think

> its one of the greatest films of all time. I would add KING KONG
> (1933), THE ADVENTURES OF ROBIN HOOD (1938), TOUCH OF EVIL, VERTIGO,
> THE THING (both versions), THE BIG SLEEP, and ONCE UPON A TIME IN

THE

> WEST just to name a few.
>
> I love PAN'S LABYRINTH but actually like the director's THE DEVIL'S
> BACKBONE a bit more.
>
> ROD
>

Also in the eighty's here in the U.K the worst thing was knifes if
carried, guns are and where very few about.
There are still not many about today.
In the eighty's bear glasses and the traditional glasgow kiss ( head
butt) was used alot
Mark--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
<sallywhitty@...> wrote:

>
> Nowhere is a CRIME FREE zone T don't be RIDICULOUS.
>
>
>
> However London has FAR less murders than the US and you know it.
>
>
>
> I'm sure you'll whip up a nice line or statistic to negate this but

the fact

> stands - where there is gun control there are FAR LESS MURDERS.
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On

Behalf Of

> TZer0@...
> Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2009 8:32 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Grand Torino *****SPOILER ALERT ******
>
>
>
>
>
> Well you'd think that London would be a crime free zone if Gun

Control

> actually worked.
>

I thought it was in your constituion that you have the right to have
carry guns, here in the U.K its the law you dont have any.
However i feel it's your right to protect yourself and property.
While there are terrorists at large what can you do?
A little old lady was being robbed in her home , she heard the noise
came down stairs hit him over the head with a vase.
He took her to court and won?
Makes sense don't it?
Mark --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
<sallywhitty@...> wrote:

>
> Eastwood has developed in recent years as a director and the main

change is

> that from showing straight revenge (High Plains Drifter), however

justified

> (Outlaw Josey Wales), to questioning the value of life and saying

very

> clearly that taking a man's life is an incredibly major thing

(Unforgiven).

>
>
>
> Ultimately in Gran Torino you see Walt Kawolski solve a few

problems WITH

> guns, to ultimately realize and demonstrate that the most EFFECTIVE

way to a

> solution is to disarm.
>
>
>
> I hope others will mature as he did.
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On

Behalf Of

> TZer0@...
> Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2009 8:32 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Grand Torino *****SPOILER ALERT ******
>
>
>
>
>
> Well you'd think that London would be a crime free zone
>
> if Gun Control actually worked. In Texas I won't say that
>
> everyone is packing -- but you have to assume someone
>
> could be since it's legal here -- and if anything I feel safer
>
> here than in London. As for Clint Eastwood, I preferred
>
> the ending of Unforgiven to Grand Torino. As clever as his
>
> solution was, I'd much rather see Clint taking TCB'n than
>
> taking it. That's just not going to be as satisfying to the
>
> movie going public because they're usually taking it.
>
> Where is the Escape in that? That's my argument
>
> against New Wave Euro Cine. I don't want a Slice
>
> Of Life like The Bicycle Thief. I don't go to the movies
>
> for Real Life. That comes when I step out of the
>
> theater. I don't need or want more of the same
>
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 2/21/2009 6:25:33 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> sallywhitty@... writes:
>
> Don't you get that it was bloody and gruesome because they turned to
> fighting and weapons?
>
> No?
>
> That doesn't really surprise me.
>
>
>
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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of haydon.mark
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:51 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: P.O.T.A T.V Series

Thank god for someone with sense to see what it was really about the
music, one of the first original skinhead groups was a little known
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 9:42 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: One of the GREATEST films of all time!

I’d put KK in there (1933), and ONCE UPON A TIME IN (The West OR America!).

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----- Original Message -----

From: Dario Sciola

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 2:15 PM

Subject: [PotaDG] OT: "Galactica"

The Glen Larson that produced the original 70's series is also the guy
responsible for the current series. So they are just trying to do a
movie based on the current series. Having said that, the current series
is infinitely superior to the old series and that is why it is such a
success. If they tried to bring it back as it was, it would have failed.
(It wasn't all that successful even way back then.)
BG is an example of where they corrected the deficiencies of a old
product and created something a lot better. A rarety.

A funny story about the new BG is that for years Larson was working on a
revival and at the same time one of the original actors, Richard
"appollo" Hatch, was also pursuing it. But for years to two clashed.
Ultimately Larson won out and even brought on Hatch to act in the new
series with a minor recurring role.

Dario
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff K." <veetus@earthlink. net>
Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009 4:27 pm
Subject: [PotaDG] "Caesar" vs."Galactica" - in with the old?

> It's being reported that Universal is courting Glen Larson,
> producer of the original '70's series, to do a movie version of
> "Battlestar Galactica" ( http://www.aintitco ol.com/node/ 40192 ). Of
> course there's been an acclaimed revamp series, which BG
> traditionalists supposedly rejected. I know almost nothing about
> either series or BG fandom, but apparently Universal is giving a
> nod to the old school fans by bringing in Larson and bringing back
> characters like Adama for the movie.
> The only thing this has to do with anything is that many "Ape"
> fans seem upset by Fox's "Caesar" plans that stray once again from
> the original movies. That just seems to be the way in Hollywood.
> Even this new BG is described as a revamp but with a touch of the
> old. But it is a step in the retro direction.
> When I interviewed Brian (Apemania) Penikas last weekend he said
> Fox does go to them for ideas of what the fans want in a new movie.
> He said he told them we want the original characters we fell in
> love with - - Cornelius, Zira, Zauis, etc. He said last summer they
> were considering two ideas: a "prequel" to "Planet" and this
> "Caesar" idea. Though I've been as open to the new "Caesar" revamp
> as anyone I think it would be cool if they could do something in
> the original universe; maybe update it visually in some way but
> keep the names and costumes, etc.
> I think there's some resistance to doing a straight "prequel"
> because there's too much baggage with the originals. Starting over
> seems to be the safe choice. But they are starting to come out with
> "hybrids" like "Superman Returns" and the new "Star Trek" where
> they take certain elements from the originals and just go "bigger".
> Is that the way to go? Or should they just let the originals rest
> in peace and start over (again)?
>

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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael & Sally Whitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 2:31 PM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] "Caesar" vs."Galactica" - in with the old?

Hi Jeff.

Great post.

(1)      I knew they were talking to someone and Brian is probably the person who pays more in licensing fees than anyone else because he does/has been doing so steadily over MANY years.  There is far too much of Fox now taking a POSITIVE direction on things for them to have NOT spoken to fans;

(2)      It’s time to start over.  POTA is a PILOT (as with HEROES, the PILOT then changed in major ways before we see episode 1).  But they really need to do one more thing: PLAN HOW MANY MOVIES THEY ARE DOING AND MAP THEM OUT SO THEY MAKE SENSE!

---

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2009 7:27 AM
To: pota@yahoogroups. com; PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] "Caesar" vs."Galactica" - in with the old?

 It's being reported that Universal is courting Glen Larson, producer of the original '70's series, to do a movie version of "Battlestar Galactica" ( http://www.aintitco ol.com/node/ 40192 ). Of course there's been an acclaimed revamp series, which BG traditionalists supposedly rejected. I know almost nothing about either series or BG fandom, but apparently Universal is giving a nod to the old school fans by bringing in Larson and bringing back characters like Adama for the movie.

  The only thing this has to do with anything is that many "Ape" fans seem upset by Fox's "Caesar" plans that stray once again from the original movies. That just seems to be the way in Hollywood . Even this new BG is described as a revamp but with a touch of the old. But it is a step in the retro direction.

  When I interviewed Brian (Apemania) Penikas last weekend he said Fox does go to them for ideas of what the fans want in a new movie. He said he told them we want the original characters we fell in love with - - Cornelius, Zira, Zauis, etc. He said last summer they were considering two ideas: a "prequel" to "Planet" and this "Caesar" idea. Though I've been as open to the new "Caesar" revamp as anyone I think it would be cool if they could do something in the original universe; maybe update it visually in some way but keep the names and costumes, etc.

 I think there's some resistance to doing a straight "prequel" because there's too much baggage with the originals. Starting over seems to be the safe choice. But they are starting to come out with "hybrids" like "Superman Returns" and the new "Star Trek" where they take certain elements from the originals and just go "bigger". Is that the way to go? Or should they just let the originals rest in peace and start over (again)?

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 12:39 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: "Galactica"

  Yeah, I don't know anything about BG but it's obvious the new series is acclaimed (even >Eric Greene< wrote for a book about it) and that the original is an old clunker only a fan could love. The reports about Glen Larson didn't say he did the new one but the report is they're throwing a bone to fans of the old one. The main creator of the new one isn't involved. Maybe the new series is too "smart" to do as a movie. They have to dumb it down.

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
<sallywhitty@...> wrote:

>
> While some of this chat is OT, I really love the humanity and

individualism

> of group members that shines through.
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On

Behalf Of

> haydon.mark
> Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2009 5:22 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: P.O.T.A T.V Series (O.T.)
>
>
>
> Yes i have seen the film, have you seen green street.
> Vinnie jones is fantastic in it.
> I dont feel it was a bad thing going to the falklands , i have been
> twice to the islands of the falklands and south georia.
> So i have spoke to many of the islanders, they considered themselfs
> to be british and that they where invaded.
> I lost friends down there , but it is still seen has a major

victory

> in terms of numbers, we had over two thousand troops to there ten
> thousand .
> I was one of the lucky ones , however when i returned back to the

U.k

> i was in a bad way with shapnal woulds and mental issues due to
> things i had seen and done.
> I still have an iterest in that music UB40 are in Brighton at Xmas

so

> will be going although the lead singer is now maxi priest and

support

> is eddie grant.
> Mark
> -- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>

com, "nlmoxham"

> <neilmoxham@> wrote:
> >
> > Sure, I like my ska too. I think I've only seen Toots from that
> first
> > generation, but seen the Beat, Neville Staples Specials, Bad
> Manners,
> > the Selector, many times. Have you seen 'This Is England' Mark?
> > Touches a bit on the Falklands war too cos it's set in the early
> > 80's.
> > It's interesting to hear your take on that war, it seems like

these

> > days it's dimissed as one of Mrs Thatcher's crusades. I sometimes
> > wonder how vets think about that now - do you feel it was right

to

> be
> > sent there?
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com,
> "haydon.mark" <markhaydon3@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thank god for someone with sense to see what it was really

about

> > the
> > > music, one of the first original skinhead groups was a little
> known
> > > group called SLADE.
> > > The clothing originally came from the minors here in the U.K.
> > > And the music you mentioned , well your quite well informed
> because
> > i
> > > went to see all those mentioned .
> > > TooTs and Desmond Decker where fantastic, but Bob Marley was
> > > something else
> > > Mark
> > > -- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com,
> "nlmoxham" <neilmoxham@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > To be fair, I used to think that too until I started working
> with
> > a
> > > > couple of skinheads who played in a ska band and would go

crazy

> > for
> > > > any (black) Jamaican musicians who would tour here - Toots

and

> > the
> > > > Maytal, Desmond Dekker, the Skatallites. If you get a chance
> you
> > > > should check out a very good film called 'This Is England'

from

> a
> > > > year or two ago. Points out very well how the rascist element
> of
> > > the
> > > > skinheads got all the media attention in the 80's but was

only

> a
> > > > minority of the skinheads, who had their origins in the

mod/ska

> > > > movement.
> > > >
> > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>

com,

> TZer0@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > While it's true some Skinheads aren't
> > > > > and that there are even Black Skinheads
> > > > > how much of a Skinhead can you be if you aren't?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 2/20/2009 8:22:43 P.M. Central Standard
> > Time,
> > > > > ntfoster@ writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > Who has been racist?
> > > > >
> > > > > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See

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>

I only caught the end of that when it was shown on TV here
unfortunately. I was at a festival here last summer and looked into a
tent where two old guys were doing a question-and-answer interview. I
must have kept moving to look for a cup of cold coffee somewhere, but
only discovered the next day it was Mick Jones (and Tony James from
Generation X and, um, Sigue Sigue Sputnik). Really have to pay more
attention in future.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, TZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> Speaking of Rude Boy...
> I just saw that Joe Strummer
> tribute film, The Future Is Unwritten.
> I always thought Joe was just a Rockstar
> Asshole, while Mick Jones was like your
> Best Friend You Never Met. This film
> really give me some insight as to why.
> You get that perception. It's not so cut
> and dry. Rat Scabbies of the Damned
> is one of my favorite people in the biz
> and I couldn't understand why one of
> his mates would be Joe. Now I know.
>
>
>
> In a message dated 2/21/2009 4:22:18 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> sallywhitty@... writes:
>
> Rude boy! J
>
> **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in
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>

I don't see that the prequel idea and the 'Caesar' idea have to be
opposed to each other: as Whitty has pointed out, they could film the
original ape revolution and still fit it into the two-timeline POTA
universe. Of course that is a fairly hardcore POTA-fan scenario (and
also it should be called 'Aldo', not 'Caesar'!).

Personally, I definately wouldn't like to see Zira, Cornelius, Zaius
in a new movie - their stories have been told and any actor who tries
to recreate them is going to fail, no question. But I'd really like
to see a new movie set in the same universe with the classic
costumes, sets, etc. Just a few generations/centuries earlier.
There's plenty of room in the timeline to place a series of new films
with new characters that neither contradict or directly relate to the
classic characters. To me, any remake that re-tells the stories
already shown basically tries to dismiss the classic movies, and
those POTA classics just refuse to die, despite what some of you
think.

And yes Michael, wouldn't it be great if they could map out a series
(3 or 4) of movies in advance, rather than having to figure out ways
around each previous 'ultimate ending'.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
<sallywhitty@...> wrote:

>
> Hi Jeff.
>
>
>
> Great post.
>
>
>
> (1) I knew they were talking to someone and Brian is probably

the person

> who pays more in licensing fees than anyone else because he

does/has been

> doing so steadily over MANY years. There is far too much of Fox

now taking

> a POSITIVE direction on things for them to have NOT spoken to fans;
>
> (2) It's time to start over. POTA is a PILOT (as with HEROES,

the PILOT

> then changed in major ways before we see episode 1). But they

really need

> to do one more thing: PLAN HOW MANY MOVIES THEY ARE DOING AND MAP

THEM OUT

> SO THEY MAKE SENSE!
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On

Behalf Of

> Jeff K.
>

He said last summer they were considering two ideas: a

> "prequel" to "Planet" and this "Caesar" idea. Though I've been as

open to

> the new "Caesar" revamp as anyone I think it would be cool if they

could do

> something in the original universe; maybe update it visually in

some way but

> keep the names and costumes, etc.
>
> I think there's some resistance to doing a straight "prequel"

because

> there's too much baggage with the originals. Starting over seems to

be the

> safe choice. But they are starting to come out with "hybrids"

like "Superman

> Returns" and the new "Star Trek" where they take certain elements

from the

> originals and just go "bigger". Is that the way to go? Or should

they just

> let the originals rest in peace and start over (again)?
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----- Original Message -----

From: Jeff K.

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 6:38 PM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] OT: "Galactica"

  Yeah, I don't know anything about BG but it's obvious the new series is acclaimed (even >Eric Greene< wrote for a book about it) and that the original is an old clunker only a fan could love. The reports about Glen Larson didn't say he did the new one but the report is they're throwing a bone to fans of the old one. The main creator of the new one isn't involved. Maybe the new series is too "smart" to do as a movie. They have to dumb it down.

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Dario Sciola

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com

Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 2:15 PM

Subject: [PotaDG] OT: "Galactica"

The Glen Larson that produced the original 70's series is also the guy
responsible for the current series. So they are just trying to do a
movie based on the current series. Having said that, the current series
is infinitely superior to the old series and that is why it is such a
success. If they tried to bring it back as it was, it would have failed.
(It wasn't all that successful even way back then.)
BG is an example of where they corrected the deficiencies of a old
product and created something a lot better. A rarety.

A funny story about the new BG is that for years Larson was working on a
revival and at the same time one of the original actors, Richard
"appollo" Hatch, was also pursuing it. But for years to two clashed.
Ultimately Larson won out and even brought on Hatch to act in the new
series with a minor recurring role.

Dario
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff K." <veetus@earthlink. net>
Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009 4:27 pm
Subject: [PotaDG] "Caesar" vs."Galactica" - in with the old?

> It's being reported that Universal is courting Glen Larson,
> producer of the original '70's series, to do a movie version of
> "Battlestar Galactica" ( http://www.aintitco ol.com/node/ 40192 ). Of
> course there's been an acclaimed revamp series, which BG
> traditionalists supposedly rejected. I know almost nothing about
> either series or BG fandom, but apparently Universal is giving a
> nod to the old school fans by bringing in Larson and bringing back
> characters like Adama for the movie.
> The only thing this has to do with anything is that many "Ape"
> fans seem upset by Fox's "Caesar" plans that stray once again from
> the original movies. That just seems to be the way in Hollywood.
> Even this new BG is described as a revamp but with a touch of the
> old. But it is a step in the retro direction.
> When I interviewed Brian (Apemania) Penikas last weekend he said
> Fox does go to them for ideas of what the fans want in a new movie.
> He said he told them we want the original characters we fell in
> love with - - Cornelius, Zira, Zauis, etc. He said last summer they
> were considering two ideas: a "prequel" to "Planet" and this
> "Caesar" idea. Though I've been as open to the new "Caesar" revamp
> as anyone I think it would be cool if they could do something in
> the original universe; maybe update it visually in some way but
> keep the names and costumes, etc.
> I think there's some resistance to doing a straight "prequel"
> because there's too much baggage with the originals. Starting over
> seems to be the safe choice. But they are starting to come out with
> "hybrids" like "Superman Returns" and the new "Star Trek" where
> they take certain elements from the originals and just go "bigger".
> Is that the way to go? Or should they just let the originals rest
> in peace and start over (again)?
>

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In case anyone's interested in reading it, I was invited to write a
guest column for SF Universe, to help introduce my timeline book. The
article is both a discussion of my own fascination with the series
(with a couple of paragraphs borrowed from the book's forward--I
self-plagiarized a bit, I admit it) and my frustration at the lack of
Apes-related publications available to fans. My head swelleth with
pride (beyond its normal swelling, I mean):

http://www.sfuniverse.com/2009/02/21/a-planet-of-the-apes-chronology-its-about-time/

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Cool!

 

 

In a message dated 2/21/2009 5:06:49 P.M. Central Standard Time, markhaydon3@... writes:

You mentioned Quadrophinia, i was there in Brighton when it was being
filmed and waspayed £25.00 pound has a extra when you see the
lambretta's coming over the hill into brighton on the country lane.
Also was in the fight scene on the beach but alas i cant see myself
on the beach scene maybe it got cut.
I was also watching when sting came out of the grand hotel filming
him getting on his crome vespa.
Mark
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, TZer0@... wrote:
>
>
> Isn't it weird that the color of laces says anything
> other than that matches with my outfit. It's very
> POTA. I like that line from Quadrophinia. About
> wearing uniforms, and being a Mod or a Rocker.
> "You gotta be somfin', right? Otherwise you may
> as well go jump in the sea!" Watch SLC Punk. It
> as a very good dissertation about The Tribes in it.
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 2/21/2009 4:33:09 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> markhaydon3@ ... writes:
>
> Hear in the u.k if they wore white laces that meant british
movement,
> red laces was national front.
>
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Sylvester
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 2:15 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] pic 2;apes tv still collecting...

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Ha! Thanks, Alex. :)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Alex Ruiz <pota1968@...> wrote:
>
> Front page news. :o)
>
> http://www.scificountdown.com/caesar/
>
> Al
>
>
>
>
> >

<Rich whistles innocently>


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty"
<sallywhitty@...> wrote:

> WHICH head? :-)
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On

Behalf Of

> rassmguy
> Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2009 2:00 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Article I wrote for SF Universe
>
>
>
> My head swelleth with pride (beyond its normal swelling, I mean)
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It's true--I, unfortunately, never see any photos people post.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
> Hey Wayne, just a suggestion - instead of sending your pictures through
> with the emails you may want to create a folder and upload them to the
> Group's Photos
> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/photos/album/0/list) or Files
> (http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/) sections.
> Some members don't get individual emails from the group and pictures
> aren't stored in the daily digests, plus you won't be clogging up
> member's email boxes.
>
> Neil
>
>
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> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf
> Of Wayne Sylvester
> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 2:15 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] pic 2;apes tv still collecting...
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In a message dated 2/21/09 4:36:43 PM Central Standard Time, TZer0@... writes:

White laces just look stupid.

 

*** White laces would also make you look like you work at APE MANAGEMENT and the like... ***

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Sylvester
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 2:47 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] good idea Neil.

thanks for the advice Neil, must do this...although my visits to this site are limited, has i am busy working on other projects at present.will make a note of it though

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In a message dated 2/21/09 4:45:41 PM Central Standard Time, TZer0@... writes:

Without them is it POTA?

**** Yes, without Zira, Cornelius & Dr. Zaius it could be APES... The tV series wasn't the films, but they started with all new characters and it worked... I don't see why a new film couldn't work with new APES... ****

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In a message dated 2/21/09 9:25:41 PM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

I've never heard they don't like the groups – any idea why?

*** I think it's not only FOX, I think most studios don't like these (type of) groups because they probably feel they infringe on their copyrighted properties. ***

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In a message dated 2/21/09 8:46:24 PM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

Wondering if there are any more POTA fans who like similar stuff.

*** The reason Neil gave was why I didn't get in on this list, it is a pretty subjective thing... But, I've seen a few films listed that I like (King Kong & The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.) ***

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of mlccougar@...
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 3:05 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] No sir, I don't like it!

In a message dated 2/21/09 9:25:41 PM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@ bigpond.com writes:

I’ve never heard they don’t like the groups – any idea why?

*** I think it's not only FOX, I think most studios don't like these (type of) groups because they probably feel they infringe on their copyrighted properties. ***

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In a message dated 2/21/09 11:13:41 PM Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:

I can understand why Fox are wary of these POTA groups, some people really hate Fox with a passion and aren't afraid to regularly say so on these forums! ;)

*** I can't say I hate FOX... I know I don't like the way they handle APES nowdays, but then again, if Zanuck and the boys hadn't green-lit PLANET we'd probably not even be here... ***

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From: Michael & Sally Whitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:25 PM

Subject: [PotaDG] No sir, I don't like it!

I’ve never heard they don’t like the groups – any idea why?

The groups are as close as you get to a fan base.

Michael

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2009 12:51 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] "Caesar" vs."Galactica" - in with the old?

  Good point, Michael. The only thing I'll add is I heard from someone who worked on the blu-rays (not Brian) that Fox does check these groups from time to time (though they don't like them).

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In a message dated 2/21/09 11:33:51 PM Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

Probably because we're always complaining: "Fox doesn't give us THIS on the DVDs".

*** Now I'll agree with that! I don't even have the Blu-Rays, so I haven't seen "all" of the extras, but between what I have seen and what I know could have been, I'm very disappointed with them... ***

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Yeah, because London is a city fool!

Of course it has less murders than in

entire county.  What kind of messed up

logic is that?  Are you lame, or do you think

I am?  When was the War of 1812 fought?

 

; )

 

In a message dated 2/21/2009 5:46:57 P.M. Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

However London has FAR less murders than the US and you know it.

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No, there isn't.

Facts stand.

 

 

In a message dated 2/21/2009 5:46:57 P.M. Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

where there is gun control there are FAR LESS MURDERS.

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No. And do you know why?

Because people who shoot

off their mouths get their mouths

shot off.  Not only are there less murders

but people are more polite too.  Ask Feudal Japan.

And didn't we have this argument before with no conclusion?

 

 

In a message dated 2/21/2009 5:46:57 P.M. Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

I'm sure you'll whip up a nice line or statistic to negate this but the fact stands – where there is gun control there are FAR LESS MURDERS.

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No Joe was a dick.

Of course that depends

on what day you caught him.

If you get a chance to see the film

it's well worth a watch.  Everyone's human.

 

 

In a message dated 2/21/2009 5:55:44 P.M. Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

I always though Strummer was the nicer of the 2?

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Yeah, was that a coincidence, or were they saying something?

 

 

In a message dated 2/21/2009 10:50:58 P.M. Central Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

*** White laces would also make you look like you work at APE MANAGEMENT and the like... ***

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This is directed to the Fox Suits and not 

anyone here on the group as a fan.

 

So what they're saying is,

"We don't like the fans.

We don't like you, but we

like your money."  So, what

they're saying is, "Screw you."

So what I'm saying it, Fuck you!

Are you reading this Fox?  Are you?

Good.  I know you think I'm and idiot.

I do.  But I KNOW you are, collectively.

By the way, I didn't buy your lame Head.

And I didn't buy your Blu-Rays.  Why?

Because I'm NOT An Idiot!  I'll keep MY

money.  MY money.  NOT yours!  I only

hope the government learns the same lesson

I'm teaching here today.  MY money, not yours.

Oh, and again, FUCK YOU!  FUCK YOU VERY MUCH!

Oh, and IF you want to hire me to fix your shit, FUCK YOU!

You couldn't afford me.  Why? Because I'd want all the money

I ever gave you back!  That's one hell of a Pile O' Cash.  Bitches! 

 

 

In a message dated 2/21/2009 11:33:58 P.M. Central Standard Time, veetus@... writes:

But that's what my source said, Fox doesn't like the groups.

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Okay, you take any two US cities with the same

size population, one with Right-To-Carry and one

with strict gun conrtol and you'll find many times

less murder in the Right-To-Carry city.  Oh wait,

you don't have to.  Washington DC already did.

Your side lost.  But go ahead an look it up any

way.  If you can fin it on Google.uk.

 

 

In a message dated 2/22/2009 1:03:14 A.M. Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

I don't think you're a fool but you lie to yourself on this topic.

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Your facts are lies.

 

Okay, now what have we accomplished here?

Nothing.

 

 

In a message dated 2/22/2009 1:03:19 A.M. Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

The facts you refer to are lies.

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No I wouldn't

I wasn't going to

comment on the subject at all.

 

 

In a message dated 2/22/2009 1:06:39 A.M. Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

Of course you will say this is not true, just like Nazis say the Jews were never slaughtered en masse.

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You can reach whatever conclusion you want.

Do the research, or don't I really don't care.

I can carry a gun, and you, can't.  So what.

Big deal.  You can't take away my rights.

I usually find that people who would like

to take away someone's right to keep

and bear arms are people who are

afraid they would get shot because

they're bullies.  Whether physically

or verbally.  Just bullies and, for

the most part, bullies are cowards.

You're no probably formulating some

comeback that people with guns are

cowards, but protecting myself and

my family does not make me a coward.

Those are my final words on the subject.

So drop it or rant all you want. I spoke my peace.

 

 

In a message dated 2/22/2009 1:06:39 A.M. Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

The conclusion is where there is gun control there are less murders.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 6:14 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Grand Torino *****SPOILER ALERT ******

 

You can reach whatever conclusion you want.

Do the research, or don't I really don't care.

I can carry a gun, and you, can't.  So what.

Big deal.  You can't take away my rights.

I usually find that people who would like

to take away someone's right to keep

and bear arms are people who are

afraid they would get shot because

they're bullies.  Whether physically

or verbally.  Just bullies and, for

the most part, bullies are cowards.

You're no probably formulating some

comeback that people with guns are

cowards, but protecting myself and

my family does not make me a coward.

Those are my final words on the subject.

So drop it or rant all you want. I spoke my peace.

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Except for this.  But I guess these facts are lies too.

 

Right to Carry reduces crime. States that approve right to carry experience a significant decline in violent crime rates after the right to carry laws take effect. According to FBI crime statistics states implementing right to carry experience:
An 8 percent drop in murder rates
A 7 percent drop in aggravated assaults
A 5 percent drop in rapes
A 4.9 percent drop in all violent crime
A 2.2 percent decline in robberies.

 

In a message dated 2/22/2009 2:14:09 A.M. Central Standard Time, TZer0@... writes:

Those are my final words on the subject.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 6:23 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Grand Torino *****SPOILER ALERT ******

Except for this.  But I guess these facts are lies too.

 

Right to Carry reduces crime. States that approve right to carry experience a significant decline in violent crime rates after the right to carry laws take effect. According to FBI crime statistics states implementing right to carry experience:
An 8 percent drop in murder rates
A 7 percent drop in aggravated assaults
A 5 percent drop in rapes
A 4.9 percent drop in all violent crime
A 2.2 percent decline in robberies.

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 5:59 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] No sir, I don't like it!

Oh, and IF you want to hire me to fix your shit, FUCK YOU!

You couldn't afford me.

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When i said little known group i was being funny , and they did use
the skinhead movement to there ends , and i'm sure they wont be the
last group to do so.
Mark
- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:

>
> Actually Slade were not a little known group they were one of the

most

> successful British bands of the seventies and were still having hits
> well into the late eighties.
> They were not really skinheads but only very briefly used the look
> because their manager Chas Chandler persuaded them to cut their

hair off

> and dress like skinheads just to sell more records by tagging along

with

> the at the time popular skinhead movement. They were never into all

that

> skinhead stuff and soon abandoned the image and grew their hair

back.

>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On

Behalf

> Of haydon.mark
> Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 11:51 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: P.O.T.A T.V Series
>
>
>
> Thank god for someone with sense to see what it was really about

the

> music, one of the first original skinhead groups was a little known
> group called SLADE.
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