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Well, then maybe I reading more into it than is there. Apologies to Mr. Greene.  ; )  I don't want to go off on a rant like Rory just to make it seem tongue-in-cheek. I really think the main theme in the POTA subtext is one of stifling the opposition.  The Trial Scene was base on the HUAAC Witch Hunts.  Not so sure they were but I digress. I'm not afraid to be wrong.  I've been wrong many times.  Everyone is.  I won't resort to name calling.  Except in Patrick's case, because he's just nutty. ; ) Thank God we have a Nut like him in the group.  Apologies to the Atheists in the group. It's a group for POTA fans.  I dare say no one has spent more time thinking about it than he has. Maybe over thought it a bit, but that's beside the point. Again, this unmentionable issue has relevance to any adult discussion of POTA.  Other wise you get posts like, "Guns are bad, mmmkay."  "But ain't Gorillys with guns Kool!"  : P

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 3/8/2009 1:05:36 A.M. Central Standard Time, mlccougar@... writes:

you know these type of groups are meant to discuss the films in general terms and not getting all "Eric Greene" about things.) ***

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You're missing out on a lot of great film.  But they are dramas.  Not many people want watch them.  I know a lot of kids today who refuse to watch ANY film that's in B&W.  Sure a lot of people think POTA when they think of Kim, but she got her Oscar for Streetcar.  Some people only think The Godfather when you mention Brando.  That of Apocalypse Now.  She starred with some Hollywood Greats.  Bogart, Mitchum, Lancaster.  Super Stars so big you only have to say their last name.  And she was every bit as good as they were.  People used to say Fred Astaire was a great dancer.  But that Ginger Rodgers did the same dance only backwards and in heels.  Sure those other actors gave great performances.  But she gave a great performance under all that makeup and in a hobble skirt.

 

 

In a message dated 3/8/2009 1:38:00 A.M. Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:

Funnily enough I was talking about Kim Hunter with Michael the other day and came to the realisation that if she hadn't been in the Planet of the Apes films I don't think I would know who she was! I've never actually seen her in any of her other movies.

There would be quite a few other 'Apes' actors and actresses that this applies to as well for me.

 

Neil

 

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, mlccougar@.. . wrote:
*** Well, that's just stupid, unless they're afraid of T knowing  more about
Kim Hunter than they do (and I'm sure T is the group Kim Hunter  expert!)..

 

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There's no season this year, just the three more one-off specials. One's at Easter, not sure when the others are, and they may be two parts of the same story, ending with a new Doctor. Then it's back to a full season next year.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "haydon.mark" <markhaydon3@...> wrote:
>
> I dont know much more than you other than if you want to find info go to BBC website/ Dr Who there is probably more info there than what i can give.
> Mark :)
> -- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty> So who IS going to be in this season – how can it BE Dr Who WOTHOUT a Dr for
> > ¾ of the episodes?
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > haydon.mark
> > Sent: Saturday, 7 March 2009 8:04 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Watchmen
> >
> >
> >
> > No he should'nt be in this season but tennant must regenerate at the end of
> > the last special.
> > Mark
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com, "Michael &
> > Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@> wrote:
> > >
> > > But the NEW doctor..is he coming in Season 2009? I don't think he is!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > [PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com] On Behalf
> > Of
> > > haydon.mark
> > > Sent: Saturday, 7 March 2009 6:51 AM
> > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Watchmen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Tennant was doing four specials , one has been on t.v at xmas.
> > > Three more to come.
> > > The new docter has already chosen i forget his name but he has got big
> > boots
> > > to fill.
> > > Russell.t.davis has also been replaced has the writer, but the new writer
> > is
> > > a fantastic writer and has already scripted some of the previous episodes.
> > > Mark
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com, "Michael
> > &
> > > Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Lucky bugger!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So, I hear David Tennant is only in 3 episodes this season - is that
> > > right?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > How are they going to pull that off?
> > > >
> > > > Michael
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _____
> > > >
> > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > > [PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com] On
> > Behalf
> > > Of
> > > > nlmoxham
> > > > Sent: Saturday, 7 March 2009 1:21 AM
> > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Watchmen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > That's funny!
> > > > My understanding wife surprised me with tickets to a Doctor Who
> > convention
> > > > in England tomorrow. We fly out tonight. Though I've never been to a
> > > > convention before and the last thing I want to do is embaress myself
> > > infront
> > > > of the hardcore Whovians...
> > > >
> > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com, TZer0@
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I thought the aside article was more interesting.
> > > > > Made me think of you Jess. And indeed all of us.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > IN LOVE WITH A FANBOY?
> > > > > Conducting a relationship with a sci-fi or comic-book fanboy (or
> > > fangirl)
> > > > > when you're not one yourself is a delicate dance full of compromise.
> > For
> > >
> > > > > example: "No, you may not keep your Boba Fett cardboard cutout in our
> > > > bedroom, but
> > > > > you can keep it downstairs in your man cave."
> > > > > The tug-of-war continues this weekend as the graphic novel-inspired
> > > > Watchmen
> > > > > hits theaters. Are you being dragged along? Or did you have to
> > convince
> > > > > someone to go with you? If you are part of a fanboy-nonbeliever union,
> > > we
> > > > want to
> > > > > hear about how you make it work. Share your stories with us, and the
> > > > really
> > > > > good ones might just make it into a story.
> > > > > E-mail us at _jjanssen@_ (mailto:jjanssen@) . Please
> > > > > include your full name(s), hometowns and a daytime contact number.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > In a message dated 3/5/2009 9:32:53 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> > > > > goathunter@ writes:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Really? Tsk, what would they know ! :-)
> > > > > > Did they give any reasons?
> > > > >
> > > > > 'Watchmen' forgettable after initial blast
> > > > >
> > > > > _http://www.usatoday
> > > > <http://www.usatoday
> > > <http://www.usatoday
> > <http://www.usatodayhttp:/wwwhttp:/www.usathttp:/www.http:/wwhttp:_>
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> > > > <http://www.usatoday
> > > <http://www.usatoday
> > <http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/reviews/2009-03-04-watchmen_N.htm>
> > .com/life/movies/reviews/2009-03-04-watchmen_N.htm>
> > > .com/life/movies/reviews/2009-03-04-watchmen_N.htm>
> > > > .com/life/movies/reviews/2009-03-04-watchmen_N.htm)
> > > > >
> > > > > Hunter
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Well definately the same style, I wouldn't want to discard the original stuff. Characters drawn the same way but with more movement, that CGI would allow.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
>
> *** If there'd ever be a "conclusion" to RETURN, it might as well be the
> same half-assed animation they used just for continuity's sake... Having it be
> something else would be like throwing having an entire TV series shot in B&W
> and then having it's last episode shot in color... ***
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 3/6/09 9:12:27 AM Central Standard Time,
> neilmoxham@... writes:
>
> If I win the lottery I think I would commission someone to to a CGI
> completion of 'Return'. I know, that's crazy, but I like the story and with improved
> graphics (but keeping the original design as much as possible) and good
> writing, it could look great. It wouldn't offend anyone because it was never
> 'canon' anyway, and no-one's ever done 'Return' fan-fiction. And it would be just
> for me, cos no-one else like 'Return'!
>
>
>
>
>
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>

I'm no writer!
Or at least, I've never tried...hmmm.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Ummm..Neil and I are ACHING to do a RETURN comic..
>
>
>
> Get writing Moxy!
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> nlmoxham
> Sent: Saturday, 7 March 2009 1:12 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: What would you rather see?
>
>
>
> Yeah both! Is that too greedy? Not for Star Wars.
>
> If I win the lottery I think I would commission someone to to a CGI
> completion of 'Return'. I know, that's crazy, but I like the story and with
> improved graphics (but keeping the original design as much as possible) and
> good writing, it could look great. It wouldn't offend anyone because it was
> never 'canon' anyway, and no-one's ever done 'Return' fan-fiction. And it
> would be just for me, cos no-one else like 'Return'!
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com, "Michael
> Whitty" <sallywhitty@> wrote:
> >
> > BOTH!
> >
> > But with a preference for a well made, well drawn, adult animated POTA
> with classic settings and characters.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com,
> mlccougar@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Would you rather see a new film like the proposed "CAESAR" film where
> it'll
> > > be a whole new story all it's own with a new look, design, etc. etc. OR
> would
> > > you rather see a made for DVD animated film (like the new made for video
>
> > > WONDER WOMAN film) based on the same style as the old?
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> >
>

I think it's worth pointing out that no more than a small minority of cranks have ever supported the IRA, at least not in the last 85 years, and the vast majority of people on this island were (and are, in light of the latest murders) ashamed and distressed that these people claim to be acting in 'our name', whatever our political opinions.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
>
> The IRA became extremists and killed innocent people.
>
>
>
> Anyone who thinks this is OK in any context - get the fuck off this group.
>
>
>
> Patrick, I know that's NOT what you are saying but damn you are going close.
>
>
>
> Now - anyone who wants to discuss guns and or the IRA please set up a group.
>
>
>
> I'll let the DG know about your group and anyone who wants to can join you
> group but right now, please let's get back to POTA.
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> Neil Foster
> Sent: Sunday, 8 March 2009 2:34 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Places with gun control have fewer murders.
>
>
>
> So which ones do you approve of then?
>
>
>
> And please be a bit more thoughtful when spouting off any more rubbish about
> the IRA on this forum please. I have relatives who served in the army in
> Northern Ireland in the 70's and I believe they are a bit more informed
> about what went on than you think you are.
>
>
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> patrickmichaeltilton
> Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 3:18 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Places with gun control have fewer murders.
>
> Now, mind you, I don't approve of every single vicious act of violence
> committed by the IRA,
>

...that, and the fact that Jackie Earle Haley was in a leading role and I thought that it was relevant to the proposed new POTA movie in regards to style/cast/etc. Apologies if I veered it off topic!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> The WATCHMEN posts come from the fact that a hell of a large percentage of
> people here are comic book fans too.
>
>

Tim - can you post a link for these pictures please? I don't get attachements, and I just finished writing my page on the stage & arena shows, thanks!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> Found this on Flickr....are these performers from the stage show or arena show?
>

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Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 5:26 AM
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well I just tried but it didn't work...can somebody add this to the files or photos please??

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To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 1:29:59 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: is this from the 70's?

Tim - can you post a link for these pictures please? I don't get attachements, and I just finished writing my page on the stage & arena shows, thanks!

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Just for the record Neil (Moxy!) - you're Irish and living in Ireland right?
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> nlmoxham
> Sent: Monday, 9 March 2009 3:16 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Places with gun control have fewer murders.
>
>
>
> I think it's worth pointing out that no more than a small minority of cranks
> have ever supported the IRA, at least not in the last 85 years, and the vast
> majority of people on this island were (and are, in light of the latest
> murders) ashamed and distressed that these people claim to be acting in 'our
> name', whatever our political opinions.
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com, "Michael &
> Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@> wrote:
> >
> > The IRA became extremists and killed innocent people.
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyone who thinks this is OK in any context - get the fuck off this group.
> >
> >
> >
> > Patrick, I know that's NOT what you are saying but damn you are going
> close.
> >
> >
> >
> > Now - anyone who wants to discuss guns and or the IRA please set up a
> group.
> >
> >
> >
> > I'll let the DG know about your group and anyone who wants to can join you
> > group but right now, please let's get back to POTA.
> >
> >
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com] On Behalf
> Of
> > Neil Foster
> > Sent: Sunday, 8 March 2009 2:34 PM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Places with gun control have fewer murders.
> >
> >
> >
> > So which ones do you approve of then?
> >
> >
> >
> > And please be a bit more thoughtful when spouting off any more rubbish
> about
> > the IRA on this forum please. I have relatives who served in the army in
> > Northern Ireland in the 70's and I believe they are a bit more informed
> > about what went on than you think you are.
> >
> >
> >
> > Neil
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com] On Behalf
> Of
> > patrickmichaeltilton
> > Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 3:18 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Places with gun control have fewer murders.
> >
> > Now, mind you, I don't approve of every single vicious act of violence
> > committed by the IRA,
> >
>

Thanks Neil, thanks Tim.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> Okay, I've uploaded it to the files section. I'm not sure which it was
> from either so I just called it UK show apes.
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf
> Of Tim "apefan"
> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 5:26 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: is this from the 70's?
>
>
>
> well I just tried but it didn't work...can somebody add this to the
> files or photos please??
>
>
> _____
>
> From: nlmoxham <neilmoxham@...>
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2009 1:29:59 PM
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: is this from the 70's?
>
>
>
> Tim - can you post a link for these pictures please? I don't get
> attachements, and I just finished writing my page on the stage & arena
> shows, thanks!
>
>
>
> .
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
> sgId=52343/stime=1236540366/nc1=5191953/nc2=5349272/nc3=5579909>
>

I take it from your question that you don't have a copy of Rich's Timelines book yet Mike?
Just curious because even though many have purchased it most seem to be unwilling to comment much on it apart from our collective initial positive reactions.

For me, reading through it I have found plenty to comment on (both positive and negative) but it looks like nobody else wants to which I find a bit strange as it's not very often we get something new to talk about POTA wise.

Neil

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:

> Cool

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nlmoxham
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 7:46 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: is this from the 70's?

Thanks Neil, thanks Tim.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@.. .> wrote:
>
> Okay, I've uploaded it to the files section. I'm not sure which it was
> from either so I just called it UK show apes.

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In a message dated 3/8/09 3:48:01 PM Central Standard Time, ntfoster@... writes:

I take it from your question that you don't have a copy of Rich's Timelines book yet Mike?
Just curious because even though many have purchased it most seem to be unwilling to comment much on it apart from our collective initial positive reactions.

*** No, I haven't purchased the book yet, but I do plan on it...

 

And you're right about it being surprising that few are commenting on it... I actually thought Whitty's post about it was going to get more people chatting about it... Whitty: Time to drum up another comment regarding Rich's book. ;) ***

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No, this is the real thing - nice find Tim! I did a search on flickr and found the page and it's in a set called '1970's', with some other very 70's-looking pictures. The autographs are '(could be Orak), Galen & Zako', which are names only used for the arena show.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Dunno!
>
>
>
> The kid looks very 1970s! Maybe a hippie kid? :-)
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> Neil Foster
> Sent: Monday, 9 March 2009 7:50 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: is this from the 70's?
>
>
>
> Not a problem but after reading Mr. Whitty's post about it maybe I got the
> title very wrong! Maybe it's from some recent convention or something?
>
>
>
> Neil
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> nlmoxham
> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 7:46 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: is this from the 70's?
>
> Thanks Neil, thanks Tim.
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com, "Neil
> Foster" <ntfoster@> wrote:
> >
> > Okay, I've uploaded it to the files section. I'm not sure which it was
> > from either so I just called it UK show apes.
>

I have spoke about this subject before , that i went and saw the show at Rochdale football ground in the seventy's.
But i must point out that they came up into the stands and they came next to me and the costumes where a lot better than those in the photo.
They are brown , where has the ones in the show where purple.
They look home made and one looks like he's wearing moterbike gloves?????
Mark :)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "nlmoxham" <neilmoxham@...> wrote:
>
> No, this is the real thing - nice find Tim! I did a search on flickr and found the page and it's in a set called '1970's', with some other very 70's-looking pictures. The autographs are '(could be Orak), Galen & Zako', which are names only used for the arena show.
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@> wrote:
> >
> > Dunno!
> >
> >
> >
> > The kid looks very 1970s! Maybe a hippie kid? :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> > Neil Foster
> > Sent: Monday, 9 March 2009 7:50 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: is this from the 70's?
> >
> >
> >
> > Not a problem but after reading Mr. Whitty's post about it maybe I got the
> > title very wrong! Maybe it's from some recent convention or something?
> >
> >
> >
> > Neil
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> > nlmoxham
> > Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 7:46 AM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: is this from the 70's?
> >
> > Thanks Neil, thanks Tim.
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com, "Neil
> > Foster" <ntfoster@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Okay, I've uploaded it to the files section. I'm not sure which it was
> > > from either so I just called it UK show apes.
> >
>

Here's part of a review:

While comic books have long dealt with issues of personal ethics, the big themes dealt with in "Watchmen" make it more akin to the science fiction we used to see decades ago. I won't compare it so much in terms of quality, but to take on these issues puts it in company with the likes of "Planet of the Apes" and the original "The Day the Earth Stood Still." Fans of the "Watchmen" series should also pick up Aldous Huxley's 1948 novel "Ape and Essence," which also depicts a future after humanity's aggressive nature has nearly driven it into extinction.

The entire review can be found here:

http://www.the-trades.com/article.php?id=10954

Michael

Mike,

I actually get the feeling that I'm upsetting and/or offending people by doing so and actually generating LESS discussion.

Rich has gone quiet, and he's posting on the other group now (about WATCHMEN, albeit...however that thread was started HERE).

It's amazing....when Neil and I put out our comics we have come under serious criticism from people like Greg P (for example, about GOING HOME) who I consider a friend and a valuable critic. I'm at the point where I hate the writing of GOING HOME and I'll be re-writing it in the future the way I wanted it (not trying to paste my story over pictures made for Dave Ballard's MONUMENT). I don't hold any grudges. It hurt me to read some things, but I still did and still do and I don't take them personally.

I think the worst thing about POTA fandom is that it's seen as personal every time someone disagrees and people don't look at it objectively.

I really love Rich's book and so does Neil. We're honoured to have the book but we don't just throw it on the shelf and get on the group to praise it without saying WHY (as quite a few poeple have done on the POTA group).

The REASON I love the book is that you can feel the dedication (obsession almost) to get all those pieces of information together. It's something I'd never be able to do. You can tell it's done by a fan but you can also feel the outstanding professionalism.

There are parts I don't agree with, but they are wonderful seeds of discussion. However right now, as I said, I cannot see the value in discussing them.

This has all just left me feeling empty and sad and wondering, yet again, why Neil and I slog it out to maintain the group.

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, mlccougar@... wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 3/8/09 3:48:01 PM Central Standard Time,
> ntfoster@... writes:
>
> I take it from your question that you don't have a copy of Rich's Timelines
> book yet Mike?
> Just curious because even though many have purchased it most seem to be
> unwilling to comment much on it apart from our collective initial positive
> reactions.
>
>
> *** No, I haven't purchased the book yet, but I do plan on it...
>
> And you're right about it being surprising that few are commenting on it...
> I actually thought Whitty's post about it was going to get more people
> chatting about it... Whitty: Time to drum up another comment regarding Rich's book.
> ;) ***
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That's DEFINITELY the ILLUSIVE CONCEPTS costume. I have it and it has the glove and boot SPATS (but they are even wearing BROWN SHOES the duffers!).

Not sure why it was in that folder but I am VERY sure I recognise the outfit...

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "haydon.mark" <markhaydon3@...> wrote:
>
> I have spoke about this subject before , that i went and saw the show at Rochdale football ground in the seventy's.
> But i must point out that they came up into the stands and they came next to me and the costumes where a lot better than those in the photo.
> They are brown , where has the ones in the show where purple.
> They look home made and one looks like he's wearing moterbike gloves?????
> Mark :)
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "nlmoxham" <neilmoxham@> wrote:
> >
> > No, this is the real thing - nice find Tim! I did a search on flickr and found the page and it's in a set called '1970's', with some other very 70's-looking pictures. The autographs are '(could be Orak), Galen & Zako', which are names only used for the arena show.
> >
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Dunno!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > The kid looks very 1970s! Maybe a hippie kid? :-)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> > > Neil Foster
> > > Sent: Monday, 9 March 2009 7:50 AM
> > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: is this from the 70's?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Not a problem but after reading Mr. Whitty's post about it maybe I got the
> > > title very wrong! Maybe it's from some recent convention or something?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Neil
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> > > nlmoxham
> > > Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 7:46 AM
> > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: is this from the 70's?
> > >
> > > Thanks Neil, thanks Tim.
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com, "Neil
> > > Foster" <ntfoster@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Okay, I've uploaded it to the files section. I'm not sure which it was
> > > > from either so I just called it UK show apes.
> > >
> >
>

Aaaah...OK, I'll try and get in touch with the guy.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael Whitty" <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
>
> That's DEFINITELY the ILLUSIVE CONCEPTS costume. I have it and it has the glove and boot SPATS (but they are even wearing BROWN SHOES the duffers!).
>
> Not sure why it was in that folder but I am VERY sure I recognise the outfit...
>
> Michael
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "haydon.mark" <markhaydon3@> wrote:
> >
> > I have spoke about this subject before , that i went and saw the show at Rochdale football ground in the seventy's.
> > But i must point out that they came up into the stands and they came next to me and the costumes where a lot better than those in the photo.
> > They are brown , where has the ones in the show where purple.
> > They look home made and one looks like he's wearing moterbike gloves?????
> > Mark :)
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "nlmoxham" <neilmoxham@> wrote:
> > >
> > > No, this is the real thing - nice find Tim! I did a search on flickr and found the page and it's in a set called '1970's', with some other very 70's-looking pictures. The autographs are '(could be Orak), Galen & Zako', which are names only used for the arena show.
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Dunno!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The kid looks very 1970s! Maybe a hippie kid? :-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _____
> > > >
> > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > > > Neil Foster
> > > > Sent: Monday, 9 March 2009 7:50 AM
> > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: is this from the 70's?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Not a problem but after reading Mr. Whitty's post about it maybe I got the
> > > > title very wrong! Maybe it's from some recent convention or something?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Neil
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> > > > nlmoxham
> > > > Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 7:46 AM
> > > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: is this from the 70's?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Neil, thanks Tim.
> > > >
> > > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com, "Neil
> > > > Foster" <ntfoster@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Okay, I've uploaded it to the files section. I'm not sure which it was
> > > > > from either so I just called it UK show apes.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

>Posted by: "Michael Whitty" sallywhitty@... mike_oz2002
>Rich has gone quiet, and he's posting on the other group now (about
>WATCHMEN, albeit...however that thread was started HERE).

Just extremely busy. I've had about five minutes in the past couple
of weeks to even scan the groups, between work and family
obligations. There's nothing more to it than that.

>I really love Rich's book and so does Neil. We're honoured to have
>the book but we don't just throw it on the shelf and get on the
>group to praise it without saying WHY (as quite a few poeple have
>done on the POTA group). The REASON I love the book is that you can
>feel the dedication (obsession almost) to get all those pieces of
>information together. It's something I'd never be able to do. You
>can tell it's done by a fan but you can also feel the outstanding
>professionalism.

Thanks. I'm glad the amount of work that went into researching and
writing it apparently comes through.

>There are parts I don't agree with,

That's cool. I expected people to disagree with parts of it.

>but they are wonderful seeds of discussion. However right now, as I
>said, I cannot see the value in discussing them. This has all just
>left me feeling empty and sad and wondering, yet again, why Neil and
>I slog it out to maintain the group.

Okay...I'm admittedly confused by that last part, as the tone of your
post just changed in mid-stream. Did I miss something?

Just saying I get the feeling I'm pissing people off or coming over as personally attacking you.

Nobody is really joining in on the discussion and I guess that's what makes me feel this way.

I'm glad you have just been busy and you are not taking it personally, but I think others are taking it some other way.

And after all the shitty behind the scenes "chats" I've been having with the good lord T I'm feeling really drained.

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Rich Handley <handleyr@...> wrote:
>
>
> Okay...I'm admittedly confused by that last part, as the tone of your
> post just changed in mid-stream. Did I miss something?
>

--"Michael Whitty" <sallywhitty@...> wrote:

>Just saying I get the feeling I'm pissing people off or coming over as personally attacking you.

I didn't realize anyone had personally attacked me. I guess it's just as well that I haven't had time to read most of the posts, then.

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In a message dated 3/8/09 6:04:07 PM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

Here's part of a review:

While comic books have long dealt with issues of personal ethics, the big themes dealt with in "Watchmen" make it more akin to the science fiction we used to see decades ago. I won't compare it so much in terms of quality, but to take on these issues puts it in company with the likes of "Planet of the Apes" and the original "The Day the Earth Stood Still." Fans of the "Watchmen" series should also pick up Aldous Huxley's 1948 novel "Ape and Essence," which also depicts a future after humanity's aggressive nature has nearly driven it into extinction.

The entire review can be found here:

http://www.the-trades.com/article.php?id=10954

Michael

 

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In a message dated 3/8/09 6:28:21 PM Central Standard Time, sallywhitty@... writes:

That's DEFINITELY the ILLUSIVE CONCEPTS costume.  I have it and it has the glove and boot SPATS (but they are even wearing BROWN SHOES the duffers!).

*** I didn't think the ILLUSIVE CONCEPTS costume was that detailed, unless they had two versions available... I always thought it was more along the lines of the background soldiers from BENEATH with the lines "printed" on rather than anything like the picture shows. ***

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I didn't realize anyone had personally attacked me.

*** Nobody has attacked you at all... ***

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Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 10:21 AM
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Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Whitty's "Timeline" threads - what's in and what's out?

It's amazing....when Neil and I put out our comics we have come under serious criticism from people like Greg P (for example, about GOING HOME) who I consider a friend and a valuable critic.

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The masks are quite good but the costumes are fancy dress, someone needs to put them in touch with jess i,m sure she's not that busy , she could make them a much better costume in five minutes???
Mark :) :)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
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> I've got that too but these look more elaborate.....and the masks are much better than the Illus.Concepts one...
>
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Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Whitty's "Timeline" threads - what's in and what's out?

I'm at the point where I hate the writing of GOING HOME and I'll be re-writing it in the future the way I wanted it (not trying to paste my story over pictures made for Dave Ballard's MONUMENT).

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The masks are quite good but the costumes are fancy dress, someone needs to put them in touch with jess i,m sure she's not that busy , she could make them a much better costume in five minutes???
Mark :) :)
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Tim "apefan"" <apefan23@.. .> wrote:
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> I've got that too but these look more elaborate... ..and the masks are much better than the Illus.Concepts one...

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--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@...> wrote:

>
> Ok Rich - this you have to explain! :-)

Hee-hee... I wondered how long it would be before the swimming instructor reared his soggy head (and don't get me started on bicycle thieves!:-)

I think the explanation is obvious... Rich was attempting to be all-inclusive, which means you either include everything or you do not. If you knowingly do not, then it's not all-inclusive!

A reference to Bill's swimming instructor IS made on-screen (or in the novelization, sorry, I can't remember which). So, for me its inclusion perfectly underlines not only the author's dedication, but also his stated intent to include EVERY snippet of info, large or small, trivial or otherwise, and let the reader decide if it was worthy of consideration.

Pre-publication I thought the reference ought to have been deleted, (and said so), and now I'm truly glad Rich didn't listen to me. Because now, every time I pick up `Timeline', be it for reference or pleasure, I know it's as all-inclusive as the author could have made it.

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I agree we should be allowed to air our views, even if its just having a bad evening or work was crap, a movie not related to planet of the apes , Guns ?, IRA after all we all have differant takes on things.
My final thoughts on the gun issue is this.
Differant country , differant rules , but please dont talk shit about the I.R.A .
I served in Ireland and have seen what terrorists can and will do first hand.
Also i lost family members in the Arndale shopping centre ( which is like a mall ) in manchester .
It took two years to get it back to anything worth visiting.
If the I.R.A are only fighting for what they believe in then so are the Talaban (9 / 11 ) suicide bombings in the middle east and the Klu Klux Klan.
Do think before you let your fingers run away with you and post stupid comments that are going to upset those that have first hand knowledge of such things.
Just so everyones aware i feel very strongly about this subject if fighting is to take place then let it be face to face not by killing innocent people.
Has anyone been watching Ross Kemp in Afganistan ( case in question )
He goes out on patrol with the irish regiment.
They catch a suspected taliban after a brief shoot out, they tie his hands and make him sitdown on the floor.
He keeps shouting out that hes not taliban.
One soldier looks at the talibans? right shoulder there is bruising which is consistant with firing a rifle.
Also they check his clothing and gunpowder traces are on his sleeves.
But then we here they had to let him go not enough evidence???
One thing the taliban do is if they see they are loosing then they drop there guns and blend in with the common folks of that settlement ( cowards ).
So please guns and laws about them lets just drop it , unfortunatly none of us are in anyway in a position to do much about the war's of this world.
Mark :)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> It comes with the territory. You put something out there and people will
> criticise it if they feel the need to but that's to be expected. Jeez we
> even had criticism about things in Beware the Beast by some people and
> some of the 'team' took it worse than others but that's life. And don't
> forget the very personal, even insulting, private emails we got from one
> coward about Within the Planet of the Apes! Lucky we didn't share those
> with the group! But what the hey, you just get on with things or you let
> it get to you. I know criticism upsets me deeply at first but I tend to
> get over it pretty quickly.
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf
> Of Michael Whitty
> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 10:21 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Whitty's "Timeline" threads - what's in and what's
> out?
>
>
>
> It's amazing....when Neil and I put out our comics we have come under
> serious criticism from people like Greg P (for example, about GOING
> HOME) who I consider a friend and a valuable critic.
>
> <mailto:PotaDG-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=>
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of haydon.mark
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 7:17 PM
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Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Whitty's "Timeline" threads - what's in and what's out?

So please guns and laws about them lets just drop it ,

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> Rich has gone quiet, and he's posting on the other group now (about
> WATCHMEN, albeit...however that thread was started HERE).

Actually, that thread did not start here. The WATCHMEN thread over
there was started by Jeff K's post, which he made to both groups.

> This has all just left me feeling empty and sad and wondering, yet
> again, why Neil and I slog it out to maintain the group.

Maybe it's because you post entirely too many pity-party messages like
this one. Maybe it's because everyone else is busy. Maybe it's
because some of don't really care to argue (keyword) the minutiae
included in the book.

Your paranoia is showing again, Michael. And I mean that in the best
way possible. Not everything that happens there or doesn't happen
here is a result of people liking one group better than the other or
disliking people on one group or the other. Sometimes, life
intervenes. Sometimes your pity-party posts turn people off.
Sometimes, people just don't have much to add....

Hunter

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Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 8:48 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Whitty's "Timeline" threads - what's in and what's out?

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> Small or minor details are important to some of us.

I understand that. I wasn't suggesting that such topics were
pointless, I was just offering one possible reason why people may not
have joined in the discussion.

Hunter

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Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 12:21 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Whitty's "Timeline" threads - what's in and what's out?

Small or minor details are important to some of us.

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I still remember them being purple not sandy brown costumes, maybe there was more than one show going around at a time.
Also look at the rifle in the picture thats not a proper prop, anyone have a clue to what it is.
My thinking is it looks a little like a lee enfield 303 with bolt action?
Mark :)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
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> Yeah yeah - I was a bit paranoid when I said it looked like the Illusive
> Concepts Costume - SORRY!! Have pity on me! ;)
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> HEY - those masks look like they are made from original prosthetics!
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>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> Tim "apefan"
> Sent: Monday, 9 March 2009 11:28 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: is this from the 70's?
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> yep Neil....no question!
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>
> _____
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> From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@...>
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, March 9, 2009 5:04:35 AM
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: is this from the 70's?
>
> They are definitely from the UK 70's shows. The costumes are exactly the
> same as the one in this 'signed' photo from the shows:
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> Neil
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
> haydon.mark
> Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 6:53 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: is this from the 70's?
>
> The masks are quite good but the costumes are fancy dress, someone needs to
> put them in touch with jess i,m sure she's not that busy , she could make
> them a much better costume in five minutes???
> Mark :) :)
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> , "Tim
> \"apefan\"" <apefan23@ .> wrote:
> >
> > I've got that too but these look more elaborate... ..and the masks are
> much better than the Illus.Concepts one...
>
> <mailto:PotaDG-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=>
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> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/msgId
> =52378/stime=1236588799/nc1=1/nc2=2/nc3=3>
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Apparently Aldo is a Swede...

http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2009/03/09/chimp-stones.html"

The first rock has been thrown. The Revolution has begun.

Dario

Oh yeah, I meant to ask about that - I've never heard about them before...

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> Speaking of which, what's the story behind the two manga editions that
> you have pictured at the back of the book Rich?
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf
> Of Neil Foster
> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 12:21 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Whitty's "Timeline" threads - what's in and
> what's out?
>
>
>
> Small or minor details are important to some of us.
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There were also the personal appearances by individual characters at shopping centres, perhaps they used different outfits? Anyway, here's what I've come up with so far, hopefully I'll get a reply from this guy that might shed some light on the picture and allow me to include it:

http://planetoftheapes.wikia.com/wiki/Planet_of_the_Apes_UK_Live_Show

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "haydon.mark" <markhaydon3@...> wrote:
>
> I still remember them being purple not sandy brown costumes, maybe there was more than one show going around at a time.
> Also look at the rifle in the picture thats not a proper prop, anyone have a clue to what it is.
> My thinking is it looks a little like a lee enfield 303 with bolt action?
> Mark :)
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah yeah - I was a bit paranoid when I said it looked like the Illusive
> > Concepts Costume - SORRY!! Have pity on me! ;)
> >
> >
> >
> > HEY - those masks look like they are made from original prosthetics!
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> > Tim "apefan"
> > Sent: Monday, 9 March 2009 11:28 PM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: is this from the 70's?
> >
> >
> >
> > yep Neil....no question!
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@>
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, March 9, 2009 5:04:35 AM
> > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: is this from the 70's?
> >
> > They are definitely from the UK 70's shows. The costumes are exactly the
> > same as the one in this 'signed' photo from the shows:
> >
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> > Neil
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> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
> > haydon.mark
> > Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 6:53 PM
> > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: is this from the 70's?
> >
> > The masks are quite good but the costumes are fancy dress, someone needs to
> > put them in touch with jess i,m sure she's not that busy , she could make
> > them a much better costume in five minutes???
> > Mark :) :)
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> , "Tim
> > \"apefan\"" <apefan23@ .> wrote:
> > >
> > > I've got that too but these look more elaborate... ..and the masks are
> > much better than the Illus.Concepts one...
> >
> > <mailto:PotaDG-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=>
> >
> > .
> >
> >
> > <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/msgId
> > =52378/stime=1236588799/nc1=1/nc2=2/nc3=3>
> >
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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of nlmoxham
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 8:17 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: is this from the 70's?

There were also the personal appearances by individual characters at shopping centres, perhaps they used different outfits? Anyway, here's what I've come up with so far, hopefully I'll get a reply from this guy that might shed some light on the picture and allow me to include it:

http://planetofthea pes.wikia. com/wiki/ Planet_of_ the_Apes_ UK_Live_Show

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Just been looking at the link most interesting, i think we have spoke about the live shows at Rochdale football ground. I still have not seen the poster that was put up to publish the time and date and where the show would be.
It was colour and of urko ( the real one )and looking at the dates i wonder if it was nearer september if they did a a public appearance then maybe?
But how i remember it they wear not wearing brown but purple costumes .
But the info is still valid and most interesting read.
Mark :)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "nlmoxham" <neilmoxham@...> wrote:
>
> There were also the personal appearances by individual characters at shopping centres, perhaps they used different outfits? Anyway, here's what I've come up with so far, hopefully I'll get a reply from this guy that might shed some light on the picture and allow me to include it:
>
> http://planetoftheapes.wikia.com/wiki/Planet_of_the_Apes_UK_Live_Show
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "haydon.mark" <markhaydon3@> wrote:
> >
> > I still remember them being purple not sandy brown costumes, maybe there was more than one show going around at a time.
> > Also look at the rifle in the picture thats not a proper prop, anyone have a clue to what it is.
> > My thinking is it looks a little like a lee enfield 303 with bolt action?
> > Mark :)
> > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yeah yeah - I was a bit paranoid when I said it looked like the Illusive
> > > Concepts Costume - SORRY!! Have pity on me! ;)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > HEY - those masks look like they are made from original prosthetics!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> > > Tim "apefan"
> > > Sent: Monday, 9 March 2009 11:28 PM
> > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: is this from the 70's?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > yep Neil....no question!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@>
> > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Monday, March 9, 2009 5:04:35 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: is this from the 70's?
> > >
> > > They are definitely from the UK 70's shows. The costumes are exactly the
> > > same as the one in this 'signed' photo from the shows:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > > Neil
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
> > > haydon.mark
> > > Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 6:53 PM
> > > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> > > Subject: [PotaDG] Re: is this from the 70's?
> > >
> > > The masks are quite good but the costumes are fancy dress, someone needs to
> > > put them in touch with jess i,m sure she's not that busy , she could make
> > > them a much better costume in five minutes???
> > > Mark :) :)
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> , "Tim
> > > \"apefan\"" <apefan23@ .> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I've got that too but these look more elaborate... ..and the masks are
> > > much better than the Illus.Concepts one...
> > >
> > > <mailto:PotaDG-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com?subject=>
> > >
> > > .
> > >
> > >
> > > <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/msgId
> > > =52378/stime=1236588799/nc1=1/nc2=2/nc3=3>
> > >
> >
>

Its already been said that there where possibly more than one show doing the rounds at the time.
One of the gorillas came right up to me and rubbed the top of my hair while the other boy i went with started crying because he got scared.
Me i loved every minute of him being stood next to me, it was like all my christmas's coming at once.
And the outfit was purple he stood next to me and then carried on walking up the stand's then running back down onto the pitch.
Mark :)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> I find it highly doubtful that they would have gone to the bother and
> expense of having different costumes made up. I was at the Rochdale show
> as well but I can honestly not remember the colours of the costumes. One
> thing though, when looking at those pictures the bandoliers do start to
> momentarily stir a vague memory in me but it goes before I can remember
> anything significant!
>
> Neil
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of nlmoxham
> Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 8:17 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: is this from the 70's?
>
>
>
> There were also the personal appearances by individual characters at
> shopping centres, perhaps they used different outfits? Anyway, here's
> what I've come up with so far, hopefully I'll get a reply from this guy
> that might shed some light on the picture and allow me to include it:
>
> http://planetofthea
> <http://planetoftheapes.wikia.com/wiki/Planet_of_the_Apes_UK_Live_Show>
> pes.wikia.com/wiki/Planet_of_the_Apes_UK_Live_Show
>

Funny enough...I was looking at the costumes and figuring out where it needed fixing...and then I came across Mark's post earlier...followed by this post. Hilarious! I guess I am just a creature of habit.

Jess.

On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 2:11 AM, Michael & Sally Whitty < sallywhitty@...> wrote:

Yeah Jess would sort them RIGHT out!

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of haydon.mark
Sent: Monday, 9 March 2009 6:53 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: is this from the 70's?

The masks are quite good but the costumes are fancy dress, someone needs to put them in touch with jess i,m sure she's not that busy , she could make them a much better costume in five minutes???
Mark :) :)
--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> I've got that too but these look more elaborate.....and the masks are much better than the Illus.Concepts one...
>
>
>
> > >

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of haydon.mark
Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 8:45 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: is this from the 70's?

Just been looking at the link most interesting, i think we have spoke about the live shows at Rochdale football ground. I still have not seen the poster that was put up to publish the time and date and where the show would be.
It was colour and of urko ( the real one )and looking at the dates i wonder if it was nearer september if they did a a public appearance then maybe?
But how i remember it they wear not wearing brown but purple costumes .
But the info is still valid and most interesting read.

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