For something done back in high school that is very cool, you're an all round talent Jess.

Neil T. Foster

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:

> Maybe this tracing I did from highschool, I would never be able to replace:
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn102/apecityoutfitters/apes1.jpg

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----- Original Message -----

From: Michael & Sally Whitty

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2009 3:04 AM

Subject: RE: [PotaDG] APE CHRONICLES #45 now available in 3 different formats !! Order now

Well can we put him down to do a cover for issue #46?

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Terry Hoknes
Sent: Saturday, 6 June 2009 6:59 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] APE CHRONICLES #45 now available in 3 different formats !! Order now

I love Neil's artwork so i would never turn down anything he wants to share

 

Will you be requiring a cover for that issue?

If so I’ll see if I can talk Neil into it…

Michael

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Terry Hoknes
Sent: Saturday, 6 June 2009 5:29 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] APE CHRONICLES #45 now available in 3 different formats !! Order now

No not yet, Neil can send me stuff as soon as he is done

thanks !

 

Well it's not quite done yet but it won't be long before it is finished. I've actually gone back to doing this one like Beware the Beast, pencilling and inking it by hand, not just using the computer to 'ink' the pencils as I have done on recent strips.

Neil T. Foster

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 10:53 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] APE CHRONICLES #45 now available in 3 different formats !! Order now

So is the 3 page comic Neil has done for issue #46 Terry?

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You do know that I have a very active imagination don't you? Thanks guys, shudder.....

Neil T. Foster

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Well, I can do that easy T! I'll show you how.you got web-cam? :-)
>

> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> TZer0@...
> Sent: Saturday, 6 June 2009 5:08 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Another of my 70's favourites gone! (OT)
>> I think Carradine had some help.
>
> Especially if it's true the rope went
>
> from his hands behind his back around
>
> his neck and to his privates. I'd say if
>
> he was alone he was getting awfully creative.

Yeah I'd be happy to do a cover for it but if I did I would like to base it on the 3 page comic.

Neil T. Foster

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Will you be requiring a cover for that issue?
>
> If so I'll see if I can talk Neil into it.

Well it also came in handy to settle disputes about whether someone had been 'shot' or not! ;-)

Neil T. Foster

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
>
> That's a bit disturbing Dexter.I mean Neil!
>
> Michael
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Neil

> I always found that a pickaxe handle doubled up well as a rifle.

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Like I said I would be happy to do a cover based on the 3 pager. If I did though I would also quite like to do the typsetting etc. for the cover as well as I would want to make it 'fit' with the cover image.

Neil T. Foster

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Terry Hoknes" <hoknescards@...> wrote:
>
> I love Neil's artwork so i would never turn down anything he wants to share
>
> Will you be requiring a cover for that issue?
> If so I'll see if I can talk Neil into it.

And are we thinking colour cover or just black and white?

Neil T. Foster

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Terry Hoknes" <hoknescards@...> wrote:
>
> I love Neil's artwork so i would never turn down anything he wants to share

Well that will depend on when it is due to come out I suppose, these artwork thingies can take a bit of time you know. ;-)

Neil T. Foster

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Well can we put him down to do a cover for issue #46?

Okay that answers my earlier post! Looks like it will have to be #47 the way things are looking at the moment but I'll get back to you on that.

Neil T. Foster

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Terry Hoknes" <hoknescards@...> wrote:
>
> if Neil wants to get it to me in the next week we can use for #46 otherwise we can definitely use it for #47
>
> No worries - it will definitely get used !

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Okay that answers my earlier post! Looks like it will have to be #47 the way things are looking at the moment but I'll get back to you on that.

Neil T. Foster

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Terry Hoknes" <hoknescards@ ...> wrote:
>
> if Neil wants to get it to me in the next week we can use for #46 otherwise we can definitely use it for #47
>
> No worries - it will definitely get used !

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The "See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil" bit... you all might find this interesting.

I was watching a documentary about a year ago -- the title of which escapes me -- about the top secret goings on involving the Manhattan Project, back during World War Two. In addition to the group working on "the gadget" there were all sorts of other facilities being used to make the hemispherical cores out of uranium and plutonium and all that. There was a HUUUGE facility devoted to much of this stuff, I think in Tennessee but my memory of the details of that documentary are somewhat fuzzy. I should've taped it, dammit!

Anyway, at this facility there was a big sign that the civilian employees would see as they left for their homes -- their homes being an entire town built just for them, so as to minimize any possible contact with outsiders. The sign was a picture of the 3 apes, the leftmost one covering his Eyes, the middle one covering his Ears, and the rightmost one covering his Mouth (in a "Shhh!" gesture). Below the apes were these lines [I freeze-framed it and jotted this down]:

WHAT YOU SEE HERE
WHAT YOU DO HERE
WHAT YOU HEAR HERE
WHEN YOU LEAVE HERE
LET IT STAY HERE

The sign also had a picture of Uncle Sam rolling up his sleeves, with his tophat off next to him. All part of that wartime effort, and the need for SECRECY.

I don't know the entire history of that "See No Evil..." (etc) motif with the 3 monkeys, but it seems clear to me that they must have had something to do with the Keeping of Secrets, for reasons of National Security.

Looking at the "tribunal" scene of PLANET again, it is no wonder then that the 3 orangutans mimic that famous motif... since they do so in answer to Zira's testimony regarding the Truth about how there is no physiological reason for humans being mute... how there is no flaw in the anatomy, but is in the human brain... and then how Cornelius exhorts them to "Behold! This marvel... this living paradox!" (etc)

The whole purpose of the Tribunal was to "expose Zira and Cornelius" so as to prevent further public humiliation of the Ruling Class which has already suffered from having a Talking Human being heard publicly doing something that Orthodoxy insists is impossible. The Tribunal was not open-to-the-public, like the kind of trial guaranteed to U.S. citizens by their Constitution [i.e. a speedy and PUBLIC trial]. Zira and Cornelius may have their "friends and simian sponsors" -- yet those friends were not present at the Tribunal, to lend their moral support.

The "See/Hear/Speak No Evil" motif represents Secrecy for reasons of State: CENSORSHIP during a time of "public danger". By making that tableau happen, the 3 orangutans were saying, in effect, that the outcome of this Tribunal would be kept "in chambers" -- the Public being prevented from knowing what had transpired.

The President of the Academy probably should have not only had Zira and Cornelius arrested, but also HELD WITHOUT BAIL. They evidently figured that, once out on bail, they would meekly acquiesce to their sorry situation, and prepare their Defense case for their upcoming Heresy trial. They didn't count on them being so ballsy as to spring Taylor from his cage and skip town!

Risking Apostasy and Treason... all for the sake of a, perhaps, "not-so-unique" Talking Human -- and the Truth.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't mind that PLANET kept that bit in, with the "See/Hear/Speak No Evil" trio of apes. Just as the image of the Statue of Liberty packs a punch due to its symbolic nature, so too does the 3 apes tableau. It takes away from the realism a bit, sure, but so what? Its symbolic value is what is important. The movie is an absurdist, allegorical Satire, after all. That image is no more outrageous than how Honorius quotes a simian version of Alexander Pope's "AN ESSAY ON MAN" in which (lines 1 & 2 of Epistle II) Pope says: "Know then Thy-self, presume not God to scan; / The proper Study of Mankind is Man." -- Honorius stating that "The proper study of Apes is APES."

The only "goof" that I might be inclined to alter is the infamous continuity flub that I admit cannot be "unflubbed" -- the already-blown hatch on the ship. With CGI (etc) it would be possible to correct this... and I don't think that Schaffner would roll over in his grave if it happened. I wouldn't mind seeing a PLANET OF THE APES "Special Edition" where that flub is corrected, and where deleted scenes were restored (i.e. the Hunt Club wagon scene... the Nova's Pregnant scene... etc). Mind you, I wouldn't want such a "Special Edition" of PLANET to replace the theatrical cut -- EVER!

Patrick

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I think that's a bit of a stretch Patrick. I thought Heston or someone said they put the 3 monkeys in there for a laugh?

Neil T. Foster

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "patrickmichaeltilton" <patrickmichaeltilton@...> wrote:
>
> The "See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil" bit... you all might find this interesting.
>> Looking at the "tribunal" scene of PLANET again, it is no wonder then that the 3 orangutans mimic that famous motif... since they do so in answer to Zira's testimony regarding the Truth about how there is no physiological reason for humans being mute... how there is no flaw in the anatomy, but is in the human brain... and then how Cornelius exhorts them to "Behold! This marvel... this living paradox!" (etc)
>
> The whole purpose of the Tribunal was to "expose Zira and Cornelius" so as to prevent further public humiliation of the Ruling Class which has already suffered from having a Talking Human being heard publicly doing something that Orthodoxy insists is impossible. The Tribunal was not open-to-the-public, like the kind of trial guaranteed to U.S. citizens by their Constitution [i.e. a speedy and PUBLIC trial]. Zira and Cornelius may have their "friends and simian sponsors" -- yet those friends were not present at the Tribunal, to lend their moral support.
>
> The "See/Hear/Speak No Evil" motif represents Secrecy for reasons of State: CENSORSHIP during a time of "public danger". By making that tableau happen, the 3 orangutans were saying, in effect, that the outcome of this Tribunal would be kept "in chambers" -- the Public being prevented from knowing what had transpired.
>
> The President of the Academy probably should have not only had Zira and Cornelius arrested, but also HELD WITHOUT BAIL. They evidently figured that, once out on bail, they would meekly acquiesce to their sorry situation, and prepare their Defense case for their upcoming Heresy trial. They didn't count on them being so ballsy as to spring Taylor from his cage and skip town!
>
> Risking Apostasy and Treason... all for the sake of a, perhaps, "not-so-unique" Talking Human -- and the Truth.

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Wish I'd known about this, I have a few that I could have entered.

Neil T. Foster

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
>
> These are pretty funny.....Empire magazine has contests.....they have different themes.....
>
> http://www.empireonline.com/features/movie-poster-mash-up/monkeys/
>
> there's a list to the lift of the diffeerent themes......
>

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Like what? I don't see anything can you upload it to the group or something?

JM

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
>
> What - like this one? :-)
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> Neil
> Sent: Sunday, 7 June 2009 10:05 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Poster Mashups (OT)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Wish I'd known about this, I have a few that I could have entered.
>
> Neil T. Foster
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com, "Tim
> \"apefan\"" <apefan23@> wrote:
> >
> > These are pretty funny.....Empire magazine has contests.....they have
> different themes.....
> >
> > http://www.empireon
> <http://www.empireonline.com/features/movie-poster-mash-up/monkeys/>
> line.com/features/movie-poster-mash-up/monkeys/
> >
> > there's a list to the lift of the diffeerent themes......
> >
>

Could you please upload this one as well.

JM

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Or this one? :-)
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> Neil
> Sent: Sunday, 7 June 2009 10:05 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Poster Mashups (OT)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Wish I'd known about this, I have a few that I could have entered.
>
> Neil T. Foster
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com, "Tim
> \"apefan\"" <apefan23@> wrote:
> >
> > These are pretty funny.....Empire magazine has contests.....they have
> different themes.....
> >
> > http://www.empireon
> <http://www.empireonline.com/features/movie-poster-mash-up/monkeys/>
> line.com/features/movie-poster-mash-up/monkeys/
> >
> > there's a list to the lift of the diffeerent themes......
> >
>

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Well this isn't one of the ones I meant! There are a few that I did a while ago, a couple of them should still be in the files section somewhere. I'll have a look to see if I can locate them.

Neil T. Foster

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
>
> Or this one? :-)
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> Neil
> Sent: Sunday, 7 June 2009 10:05 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Poster Mashups (OT)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Wish I'd known about this, I have a few that I could have entered.
>
> Neil T. Foster
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com, "Tim
> \"apefan\"" <apefan23@> wrote:
> >
> > These are pretty funny.....Empire magazine has contests.....they have
> different themes.....
> >
> > http://www.empireon
> <http://www.empireonline.com/features/movie-poster-mash-up/monkeys/>
> line.com/features/movie-poster-mash-up/monkeys/
> >
> > there's a list to the lift of the diffeerent themes......
> >
>

Found them, in the Miscellaneous folder in the files section:

Moonaper.jpg & FaFOM.gif

Neil T. Foster

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> Well this isn't one of the ones I meant! There are a few that I did a while ago, a couple of them should still be in the files section somewhere. I'll have a look to see if I can locate them.

Thanx michael.

JM

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>
>
> Hello,
>
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Thanx again. Very funny but a bit naughty.

JM

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>
> Hello,
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Michael i'm not trying to be rude or anything but could you please also load this one to the files. I don't get the attachments with my email.

JM

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
>
> OK I'm getting nostalgic here.
>
>
>
> Here is the coloured page 2 done by Anthony AcElveen that inspired Neil to
> colour the entire comic.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> _____
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
> Michael & Sally Whitty
> Sent: Sunday, 7 June 2009 9:58 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Is there anybody out there? It begins.....
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Neil and I are on line and if there's anyone out there say "hi" because we
> want to start uploading Planet of the Apes Begins, and have some people to
> discuss with.
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>
> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/msgId
> =54046/stime=1244332202/nc1=3858797/nc2=3848621/nc3=5741392>
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Thanx. I like the drawing but don't think much of the coloring though. Its not very professional looking and just way too bland.

JM

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Well that's probably because it wasn't coloured by a pro, Anthony one of the group members here did it and I myself think he did a great job.

Neil T. Foster

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "jamesmontague55" <jamesmontague55@...> wrote:
>don't think much of the coloring though. Its not very professional looking and just way too bland.

I remember doing this one back in early December or there abouts. I think I can understand why Anthony wouldn't want to do the rest as this page took me over 6 hours to do if I recall correctly.(so maybe Anthony's still colouring them!) ;-)

Neil T. Foster

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
>
> I think Anthony did a wonderful job.
> He was going to proceed to colour the entire comic but we couldn't get in
> touch with him for a long time and Neil decided to do it himself.
> I'd like to thank Anthony again for his efforts.
> The first page Neil coloured was Page 9 and I'm attaching this now.

Wow this one looks really good, perfect infact just how it should be done.

JM

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The color looks really good. I was afraid I wouldn't like the color because the black & white is more like the old Marvel Mags but I think the color is going to work well.

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Well, I'm not able to view the side by side comparisions but I definately like the darker more natural look to the page. The bright colors might be fantastic for a Superhero comic, but for Apes I think the toned down approach was a great suggestion. Neil draws the Apes world so well it "feels" right. Like watching a lost episode of the Tv series or something. Where most Apes comics looked different enough that they felt seperated from the Apes world somehow.

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You know, I looked at Ty's 'tweaking' and thought it looked a bit too muted, and that something in between the two would be better (and I do remember 'Revolution' having some vivid colours, the red gorilla jump-suits for example), and then you show Neil's reworking - perfect!

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> Here's the comparison of Ty's tweak (left) and Neil's reworking (right):
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>
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> _____
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> Michael & Sally Whitty
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> Subject: [PotaDG] Ty Templeton makes a suggestion. [1 Attachment]
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> [Attachment(s) from Michael & Sally Whitty included below]
>
>
>
>
> OK - I sent this to Ty Templeton and Ty said:
>
>
>
>
> The page is decently separated, but some of the greens and reds are a little
> unnatural. I tossed a couple of light source filters onto the page, and
> trimmed the chroma from some of the green, and here's what I came up with.
>
> Natural is the new style, and I think this is a wee bit more natural. (I
> didn't do a thing to the separations, by the way, just tweaked the levels of
> tint and hue).
>
> Ty
>
>
>
> Here's Neil's original (left) and Ty's tweaking (right) as a comparison:
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _____
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>
>
> [Attachment(s) from Michael & Sally Whitty included below]
>
>
>
>
>
> I think Anthony did a wonderful job.
>
>
>
> He was going to proceed to colour the entire comic but we couldn't get in
> touch with him for a long time and Neil decided to do it himself.
>
>
>
> I'd like to thank Anthony again for his efforts.
>
>
>
> The first page Neil coloured was Page 9 and I'm attaching this now.
>
> .
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POTAB_pg2_30%.jpg

On Jun 6, 2009, at 11:09 pm, jamesmontague55 wrote:

> Thanx. I like the drawing but don't think much of the coloring
> though. Its not very professional looking and just way too bland.
>
> JM

To each his own. I'm sorry I couldn't make the desolate landscape
more exciting for you. If you check out the pages from Beware the
Beast that Neil coloured himself, you'll see that my colouring style
was intentionally Fosterian. I've always preferred the vividly rich
colours found in the Power Records booklets, but they would not have
been appropriate here.

On Jun 6, 2009, at 11:15 pm, Michael & Sally Whitty wrote:

> I think Anthony did a wonderful job.
>
> He was going to proceed to colour the entire comic but we couldn't
> get in touch with him for a long time and Neil decided to do it
> himself.
>
> I'd like to thank Anthony again for his efforts.
>
> Michael

Thank you, Michael.

I had some major problems arise in my personal life and nearly
chucked it all in. Things are much better now.


On Jun 6, 2009, at 11:17 pm, Neil wrote:

> Well that's probably because it wasn't coloured by a pro, Anthony
> one of the group members here did it and I myself think he did a
> great job.
>
> Neil T. Foster

Thanks, Neil. As you know, the best artists aren't always
professionals. ;-)


On Jun 6, 2009, at 11:27 pm, Neil wrote:

> I remember doing this one back in early December or there abouts. I
> think I can understand why Anthony wouldn't want to do the rest as
> this page took me over 6 hours to do if I recall correctly.(so
> maybe Anthony's still colouring them!) ;-)
>
> Neil T. Foster

I really enjoyed working on the pages that I did. Maybe someday we
can work together again. At least my font rears its ugly head
occasionally ;-)

By the way, here's the final version of Page 2 that I submitted to
Michael and Neil after getting their feedback:

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I can't believe some members can be so criticle of the artwork and colouring of these drawings.
Personally i wish i was gifted enough and had the time to put into doing this.
I will admit the more muted colour does look better but what the hell i would be happy with any.
Keep up the good work its fantastic, if i was a woman i would have your baby's!!
Only joking
Mark :)

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Hi Anthony

I hope you know I wasn't being mean when I said this - we assumed there was
something going on because it was so very unlike you. We put it down to
real life taking over or your email address being different and we are so
glad it wasn't the other alternative - that you had passed on or were in
hospital severely injured.

So I hope you know how glad I am that you are alive and well my friend - we
have missed you and welcome back!

Mr Montague is rarely nice to anyone or pleased with anything - I'm
surprised he's even been nice to Neil! Please disregard his comments - if
they were helpful like Ty's comments it might be worth listening but James
just speaks negatively too much for me to even think his opinions are
genuine. I am seriously regretting not having him on moderation.

Again, welcome back!

Michael

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Anthony B. McElveen
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Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG [1 Attachment]

On Jun 6, 2009, at 11:15 pm, Michael & Sally Whitty wrote:

> I think Anthony did a wonderful job.
>
> He was going to proceed to colour the entire comic but we couldn't
> get in touch with him for a long time and Neil decided to do it
> himself.
>
> I'd like to thank Anthony again for his efforts.
>
> Michael

Thank you, Michael.

I had some major problems arise in my personal life and nearly chucked it
all in. Things are much better now

Michael, I can't make your post sound mean even if I try to
misinterpret it on purpose. It doesn't bother me that Neil was
inspired by my work to finish the story with colour. I'm flattered.

It's good to be back. I thank you again, Michael. I'm eager to get
back into my gorilla uniform so that I can start putting some filthy
humans down.

Mr. Montague's criticism is ridiculous. Taylor and his crew leave the
beach where Landon plants his tiny flag and they slog across a barren
desert for more than eleven minutes before laying eyes on the
waterfall. Could that have possibly been more bland if they'd tried?
Sometimes blandness is needed to provide contrast for what's to come
later. If Taylor's group had struggled through a land of rainbows and
circus tents, the ape city would've been a letdown in comparison.

Anthony
Rainbow Suppression League, Anti-Circus Tent Chapter

On Jun 7, 2009, at 6:25 pm, Michael & Sally Whitty wrote:

> Hi Anthony
>
> I hope you know I wasn't being mean when I said this - we assumed
> there was
> something going on because it was so very unlike you. We put it
> down to
> real life taking over or your email address being different and we
> are so
> glad it wasn't the other alternative - that you had passed on or
> were in
> hospital severely injured.
>
> So I hope you know how glad I am that you are alive and well my
> friend - we
> have missed you and welcome back!
>
> Mr Montague is rarely nice to anyone or pleased with anything - I'm
> surprised he's even been nice to Neil! Please disregard his
> comments - if
> they were helpful like Ty's comments it might be worth listening
> but James
> just speaks negatively too much for me to even think his opinions are
> genuine. I am seriously regretting not having him on moderation.
>
> Again, welcome back!
>
> Michael
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of
> Anthony B. McElveen
> Sent: Monday, 8 June 2009 7:20 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG [1 Attachment]
>
> On Jun 6, 2009, at 11:15 pm, Michael & Sally Whitty wrote:
>
>> I think Anthony did a wonderful job.
>>
>> He was going to proceed to colour the entire comic but we couldn't
>> get in touch with him for a long time and Neil decided to do it
>> himself.
>>
>> I'd like to thank Anthony again for his efforts.
>>
>> Michael
>
> Thank you, Michael.
>
> I had some major problems arise in my personal life and nearly
> chucked it
> all in. Things are much better now
>
>
>
>
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>
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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Anthony B. McElveen
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 7:20 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG [1 Attachment]

On Jun 6, 2009, at 11:09 pm, jamesmontague55 wrote:

> Thanx. I like the drawing but don't think much of the coloring
> though. Its not very professional looking and just way too bland.
>
> JM

To each his own. I'm sorry I couldn't make the desolate landscape
more exciting for you. If you check out the pages from Beware the
Beast that Neil coloured himself, you'll see that my colouring style
was intentionally Fosterian. I've always preferred the vividly rich
colours found in the Power Records booklets, but they would not have
been appropriate here.


On Jun 6, 2009, at 11:15 pm, Michael & Sally Whitty wrote:

> I think Anthony did a wonderful job.
>
> He was going to proceed to colour the entire comic but we couldn't
> get in touch with him for a long time and Neil decided to do it
> himself.
>
> I'd like to thank Anthony again for his efforts.
>
> Michael

Thank you, Michael.

I had some major problems arise in my personal life and nearly
chucked it all in. Things are much better now.


On Jun 6, 2009, at 11:17 pm, Neil wrote:

> Well that's probably because it wasn't coloured by a pro, Anthony
> one of the group members here did it and I myself think he did a
> great job.
>
> Neil T. Foster

Thanks, Neil. As you know, the best artists aren't always
professionals. ;-)


On Jun 6, 2009, at 11:27 pm, Neil wrote:

> I remember doing this one back in early December or there abouts. I
> think I can understand why Anthony wouldn't want to do the rest as
> this page took me over 6 hours to do if I recall correctly.(so
> maybe Anthony's still colouring them!) ;-)
>
> Neil T. Foster

I really enjoyed working on the pages that I did. Maybe someday we
can work together again. At least my font rears its ugly head
occasionally ;-)

By the way, here's the final version of Page 2 that I submitted to
Michael and Neil after getting their feedback:



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'Fosterian', I like that, cool word.

Neil T. Foster


-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Anthony B. McElveen
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 7:20 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG [1 Attachment]

you'll see that my colouring style was intentionally Fosterian.

Hi Anthony, good to hear from you, I was getting a bit worried when we
hadn't heard from you for so long. The thing is if you hadn't coloured
those Begins pages in the first place I wouldn't have agreed to colour
the rest of the thing myself as I was happy enough with it in B&W.

Neil T. Foster


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Of Anthony B. McElveen
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 7:20 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG [1 Attachment]

On Jun 6, 2009, at 11:09 pm, jamesmontague55 wrote:

> Thanx. I like the drawing but don't think much of the coloring
> though. Its not very professional looking and just way too bland.
>
> JM

To each his own. I'm sorry I couldn't make the desolate landscape
more exciting for you. If you check out the pages from Beware the
Beast that Neil coloured himself, you'll see that my colouring style
was intentionally Fosterian. I've always preferred the vividly rich
colours found in the Power Records booklets, but they would not have
been appropriate here.


On Jun 6, 2009, at 11:15 pm, Michael & Sally Whitty wrote:

> I think Anthony did a wonderful job.
>
> He was going to proceed to colour the entire comic but we couldn't
> get in touch with him for a long time and Neil decided to do it
> himself.
>
> I'd like to thank Anthony again for his efforts.
>
> Michael

Thank you, Michael.

I had some major problems arise in my personal life and nearly
chucked it all in. Things are much better now.


On Jun 6, 2009, at 11:17 pm, Neil wrote:

> Well that's probably because it wasn't coloured by a pro, Anthony
> one of the group members here did it and I myself think he did a
> great job.
>
> Neil T. Foster

Thanks, Neil. As you know, the best artists aren't always
professionals. ;-)


On Jun 6, 2009, at 11:27 pm, Neil wrote:

> I remember doing this one back in early December or there abouts. I
> think I can understand why Anthony wouldn't want to do the rest as
> this page took me over 6 hours to do if I recall correctly.(so
> maybe Anthony's still colouring them!) ;-)
>
> Neil T. Foster

I really enjoyed working on the pages that I did. Maybe someday we
can work together again. At least my font rears its ugly head
occasionally ;-)

By the way, here's the final version of Page 2 that I submitted to
Michael and Neil after getting their feedback:



------------------------------------

To visit your group on the web, go to:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/
Yahoo! Groups Links

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From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 7 Jun 2009 11:17 pm
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG

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Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 8:00 PM
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Subject: [PotaDG] original POTA artwork website !

9 pages of original POTA artwork from the marvel magazines

are any of these the rare ones?

 

 

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