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Group: potadg Message: 54126 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: Re: cool!
Group: potadg Message: 54127 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] Biggest companies of POTA products in 1974
Group: potadg Message: 54128 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: Re: Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art
Group: potadg Message: 54129 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 54130 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: Re: Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art
Group: potadg Message: 54131 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: Re: Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art
Group: potadg Message: 54132 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] Biggest companies of POTA products in 1974
Group: potadg Message: 54133 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: Re: cool!
Group: potadg Message: 54134 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: Re: Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art
Group: potadg Message: 54135 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 54136 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: Re: Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art
Group: potadg Message: 54137 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] Biggest companies of POTA products in 1974
Group: potadg Message: 54138 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: Re: Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art
Group: potadg Message: 54139 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: Re: Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art
Group: potadg Message: 54140 From: Jeff K. Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: OT: Fox says Sir Ridley or bust for "Alien 5"?
Group: potadg Message: 54141 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: Re: Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art
Group: potadg Message: 54142 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: Re: Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art
Group: potadg Message: 54143 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: Re: OT: Fox says Sir Ridley or bust for "Alien 5"?
Group: potadg Message: 54144 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Re: Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art
Group: potadg Message: 54145 From: Dave B Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 54146 From: Rich Handley Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: tiger scorpions
Group: potadg Message: 54147 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Re: tiger scorpions
Group: potadg Message: 54148 From: Wendy Kostora Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Re: tiger scorpions
Group: potadg Message: 54149 From: rassmguy Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Re: tiger scorpions
Group: potadg Message: 54150 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 54151 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 54152 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] Biggest companies of POTA products in 1974
Group: potadg Message: 54153 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Re: Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art
Group: potadg Message: 54154 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Re: tiger scorpions
Group: potadg Message: 54155 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Re: Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art
Group: potadg Message: 54156 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Re: tiger scorpions
Group: potadg Message: 54157 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Re: tiger scorpions
Group: potadg Message: 54158 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Re: tiger scorpions
Group: potadg Message: 54159 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 54160 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Re: tiger scorpions
Group: potadg Message: 54161 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Re: Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art
Group: potadg Message: 54162 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] Biggest companies of POTA products in 1974
Group: potadg Message: 54163 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Re: Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art
Group: potadg Message: 54164 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
Group: potadg Message: 54165 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Re: tiger scorpions
Group: potadg Message: 54166 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Re: tiger scorpions
Group: potadg Message: 54167 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Re: tiger scorpions
Group: potadg Message: 54168 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Re: tiger scorpions
Group: potadg Message: 54169 From: rassmguy Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Re: tiger scorpions
Group: potadg Message: 54170 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Sideshow Zaius PF
Group: potadg Message: 54171 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Re: Sideshow Zaius PF
Group: potadg Message: 54172 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Re: Sideshow Zaius PF
Group: potadg Message: 54173 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Re: Sideshow Zaius PF
Group: potadg Message: 54174 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Re: Sideshow Zaius PF
Group: potadg Message: 54175 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/11/2009
Subject: Re: Sideshow Zaius PF
Group: potadg Message: 54176 From: Chris Hight Date: 6/11/2009
Subject: Re: Sideshow Zaius PF
Group: potadg Message: 54177 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/11/2009
Subject: Re: Sideshow Zaius PF
Group: potadg Message: 54178 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 6/11/2009
Subject: Re: Sideshow Zaius PF
Group: potadg Message: 54179 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/11/2009
Subject: Re: Sideshow Zaius PF
Group: potadg Message: 54180 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/11/2009
Subject: Re: Sideshow Zaius PF
Group: potadg Message: 54181 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/11/2009
Subject: Re: Sideshow Zaius PF
Group: potadg Message: 54182 From: Jeff K. Date: 6/11/2009
Subject: OT: 20th Century Fox prop auction
Group: potadg Message: 54183 From: Jeff K. Date: 6/11/2009
Subject: New Heston movie in 2009?
Group: potadg Message: 54184 From: Jeff K. Date: 6/11/2009
Subject: OT: "Alien" update
Group: potadg Message: 54185 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/11/2009
Subject: Re: New Heston movie in 2009?
Group: potadg Message: 54186 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 6/11/2009
Subject: Re: Sideshow Zaius PF
Group: potadg Message: 54187 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 6/11/2009
Subject: Re: New Heston movie in 2009?
Group: potadg Message: 54188 From: Jeff K. Date: 6/12/2009
Subject: OT: Fox to upgrade licensing/merchandising?
Group: potadg Message: 54189 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/12/2009
Subject: Glossy Photo?!?!?
Group: potadg Message: 54190 From: John B Kirtley Date: 6/12/2009
Subject: New Tee shirt
Group: potadg Message: 54191 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/12/2009
Subject: Re: OT: 20th Century Fox prop auction
Group: potadg Message: 54192 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/12/2009
Subject: Re: New Heston movie in 2009?
Group: potadg Message: 54193 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/12/2009
Subject: Re: New Heston movie in 2009?
Group: potadg Message: 54194 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/12/2009
Subject: Re: New Tee shirt
Group: potadg Message: 54195 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/12/2009
Subject: Re: Glossy Photo?!?!?
Group: potadg Message: 54196 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/12/2009
Subject: Re: New Tee shirt
Group: potadg Message: 54197 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/12/2009
Subject: Re: New Tee shirt
Group: potadg Message: 54198 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/12/2009
Subject: Re: OT: 20th Century Fox prop auction
Group: potadg Message: 54199 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/12/2009
Subject: Re: New Heston movie in 2009?
Group: potadg Message: 54200 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/12/2009
Subject: Re: New Heston movie in 2009?
Group: potadg Message: 54201 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/12/2009
Subject: Re: Glossy Photo?!?!?
Group: potadg Message: 54202 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/12/2009
Subject: Re: OT: 20th Century Fox prop auction
Group: potadg Message: 54203 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/12/2009
Subject: Re: Glossy Photo?!?!?
Group: potadg Message: 54204 From: John Date: 6/12/2009
Subject: Re: Glossy Photo?!?!?
Group: potadg Message: 54205 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/12/2009
Subject: Re: OT: 20th Century Fox prop auction
Group: potadg Message: 54206 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/12/2009
Subject: Re: Glossy Photo?!?!?
Group: potadg Message: 54207 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/12/2009
Subject: Re: Glossy Photo?!?!?
Group: potadg Message: 54208 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/12/2009
Subject: Re: Glossy Photo?!?!?
Group: potadg Message: 54209 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/12/2009
Subject: Re: Glossy Photo?!?!? [1 Attachment]
Group: potadg Message: 54210 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/13/2009
Subject: Re: Glossy Photo?!?!?
Group: potadg Message: 54211 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/13/2009
Subject: Re: Glossy Photo?!?!? [1 Attachment]
Group: potadg Message: 54212 From: patrickmichaeltilton Date: 6/13/2009
Subject: Re: Can you think of any goofs in the first POTA film or any cheesy
Group: potadg Message: 54213 From: patrickmichaeltilton Date: 6/13/2009
Subject: Re: Can you think of any goofs in the first POTA film or any cheesy
Group: potadg Message: 54214 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 6/13/2009
Subject: Re: Can you think of any goofs in the first POTA film or any cheesy
Group: potadg Message: 54215 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/13/2009
Subject: Re: Glossy Photo?!?!?
Group: potadg Message: 54216 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/13/2009
Subject: Re: Can you think of any goofs in the first POTA film or any cheesy
Group: potadg Message: 54217 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/13/2009
Subject: Re: Can you think of any goofs in the first POTA film or any cheesy
Group: potadg Message: 54218 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/13/2009
Subject: Re: Glossy Photo?!?!?
Group: potadg Message: 54219 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/13/2009
Subject: Re: Can you think of any goofs in the first POTA film or any cheesy
Group: potadg Message: 54220 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/13/2009
Subject: Re: Can you think of any goofs in the first POTA film or any cheesy
Group: potadg Message: 54221 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/13/2009
Subject: Re: Can you think of any goofs in the first POTA film or any cheesy
Group: potadg Message: 54222 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/13/2009
Subject: Re: Can you think of any goofs in the first POTA film or any cheesy
Group: potadg Message: 54223 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 6/13/2009
Subject: Re: Can you think of any goofs in the first POTA film or any cheesy
Group: potadg Message: 54224 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/13/2009
Subject: Re: Can you think of any goofs in the first POTA film or any cheesy
Group: potadg Message: 54225 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 6/13/2009
Subject: Re: Can you think of any goofs in the first POTA film or any cheesy



Group: potadg Message: 54126 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: Re: cool!
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Wouldn't one of those look great in the back yard! ;-)
 
Neil T. Foster
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 4:17 AM
To: POTA; POTA DG
Subject: [PotaDG] cool!

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Group: potadg Message: 54127 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] Biggest companies of POTA products in 1974
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You'll have to have a look for that catalog and upload it Michael. You should have no problems finding it, I hear you have perfect Twenty20 vision, tee hee hee... ;-)
 
Neil T. Foster
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 3:10 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] Biggest companies of POTA products in 1974

Well made toys did a whoe lot more.

Ken Taylor was contacted by the son of the company owner who was trying to get hold of a sample of everything.

I also have somewhere an old catalog with stuff for sale and there is mucho I was unaware of!

Michael

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Group: potadg Message: 54128 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: Re: Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art
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I would if I had the money spare, always really liked Herb's art, especially his POTA and Hulk stuff.
 
Neil T. Foster
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Handley
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 11:15 AM
To: simianchat@yahoogroups.com; pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [PotaDG] Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art

In case anyone's interested in bidding...

>Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 21:12:25 -0400
>From: Jeff Jaworski <jaworsk4@msu. edu>
>Subject: Planet of the Apes original art
>To: goathunter@GOATLEY. COM, info@hassleinbooks. com
>X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9
>X-Virus: None found by Clam AV
>Original-recipient : rfc822;handleyr@optonline. net
>
>Hello,
>
>I wanted you both to know that I have posted a page of art on ebay
>from the original Marvel Comics magazine. The page is being sold for
>original artist Herb Trimpe, who I represent via the
>www.comicbook- art.com site. The link to the auction is:
> http://cgi.ebay. com/ws/eBayISAPI .dll?ViewItem& ssPageName= STRK:MESELX: IT&item=23034804 2418
>

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Group: potadg Message: 54129 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
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beautiful!


From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 5:06:32 PM
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG

The picture is called  Gideon (reworked splash page) sml.jpg  and it's in the  Beast colour tests  folder in the files section.
 
Neil T. Foster
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 7:00 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG [1 Attachment]

I do have another page that I coloured, well sort of, I did a painting based on another of the pages added to the print version, the opening splash page:
 with a couple of little changes (hey we can play spot the difference!)
I'll upload it to the  Beast colour tests  folder in the files section.
 
Neil T. Foster
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of John
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 12:23 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG

Added Neil's color test for Beware the Beast to the files section in the folder with Dave Ballards color pages.

-- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@.. .> wrote:
>
> The ones in the files section are all painted by Dave Ballard, and very
> nice they are too. I did a test colouring of this page:
>
> that we added to the printed version (issue#2) but it is not in the
> files and I have gone and lost it. I must have deleted it or something
> and all the files that were with it and I have no back-up copy so if
> anyone did keep a copy of it I would really appreciate having a copy of
> it.
>
> Neil T. Foster
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf
> Of Michael & Sally Whitty
> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 7:46 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
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> I'll have to throw this one back at Neil.
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> There's a few that Dave Ballard coloured and some Neil coloured.
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> < http://geo.yahoo. com/serv? s=97359714/ grpId=8605785/ grpspId=17050214 37/m
> sgId=54107/stime= 1244497596/ nc1=1/nc2= 2/nc3=3>
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Group: potadg Message: 54130 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: Re: Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art
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Well.
     I just been outbidded on it. I'm afraid that I put another  bid on it, someone else will outbid me

Kevin


-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 4:52 pm
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art



Yeah I bet it does!
 
Neil T. Foster
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [mailto:PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@aol. com
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 11:50 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art

I already bidded on the artwork, just give it time before the price of this page shoot right up.
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Group: potadg Message: 54131 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: Re: Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art
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Well I rebidded on the original art and I am currently the high bidder for the time being, there has
already 13 bids on it, and i'm still worried that someone is going to outbid me.

Kevin


-----Original Message-----
From: PofTAfan@...
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 8:41 pm
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art



Well.
     I just been outbidded on it. I'm afraid that I put another  bid on it, someone else will outbid me

Kevin


-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@bigpond. com>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 4:52 pm
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art



Yeah I bet it does!
 
Neil T. Foster
 
-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [mailto:PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@aol. com
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 11:50 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art

I already bidded on the artwork, just give it time before the price of this page shoot right up.
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Group: potadg Message: 54132 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] Biggest companies of POTA products in 1974
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I'm looking Tim - I just have a HEAP of stuff to move around.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
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> what else did Well Made make??
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Group: potadg Message: 54133 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: Re: cool!
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How odd!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Tim \"apefan\"" <apefan23@...> wrote:
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> http://sandboxworld.com/beach-apes/
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Group: potadg Message: 54134 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: Re: Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art
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I don't know why? How many people want this?

This is the King Arthur story right?

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
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> Yeah I bet it does!
>
> Neil T. Foster
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf
> Of PofTAfan@...
> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 11:50 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art
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> I already bidded on the artwork, just give it time before the price of
> this page shoot right up.
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> <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/m
> sgId=54114/stime=1244512309/nc1=1/nc2=2/nc3=3>
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Group: potadg Message: 54135 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
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Neil

This was water painted right, not digitally?

michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, PotaDG@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
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> Hello,
>
> This email message is a notification to let you know that
> a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
> group.
>
> File : /Beast colour tests /Gideon (reworked splash page) sml.jpg
> Uploaded by : munkeyman63au <ntfoster@...>
> Description :
>
> You can access this file at the URL:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Beast%20colour%20tests%20/Gideon%20%28reworked%20splash%20page%29%20sml.jpg
>
> To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
> http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.htmliles
>
> Regards,
>
> munkeyman63au <ntfoster@...>
>
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Group: potadg Message: 54136 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: Re: Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art
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Yeah, This is the King Arthur ape story


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 9:00 pm
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art



I don't know why? How many people want this?

This is the King Arthur story right?

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@.. .> wrote:
>
> Yeah I bet it does!
>
> Neil T. Foster
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf
> Of PofTAfan@...
> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 11:50 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art
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> I already bidded on the artwork, just give it time before the price of
> this page shoot right up.
> .
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> <http://geo.yahoo. com/serv? s=97359714/ grpId=8605785/ grpspId=17050214 37/m
> sgId=54114/stime= 1244512309/ nc1=1/nc2= 2/nc3=3>
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Group: potadg Message: 54137 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: Re: [pota] Biggest companies of POTA products in 1974
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Next time you come over, it's in the garage with all the other paper goods.

We just have to move a thousand boxes to get there....

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> You'll have to have a look for that catalog and upload it Michael. You
> should have no problems finding it, I hear you have perfect Twenty20
> vision, tee hee hee... ;-)
>
> Neil T. Foster
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf
> Of Michael & Sally Whitty
> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 3:10 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] Biggest companies of POTA products in
> 1974
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Well made toys did a whoe lot more.
>
>
>
> Ken Taylor was contacted by the son of the company owner who was trying
> to get hold of a sample of everything.
>
>
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> I also have somewhere an old catalog with stuff for sale and there is
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Group: potadg Message: 54138 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: Re: Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art
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I guess the art's OK but the story is not much better than a Killraven.

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
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> I would if I had the money spare, always really liked Herb's art,
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf
> Of Rich Handley
> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 11:15 AM
> To: simianchat@yahoogroups.com; pota@yahoogroups.com;
> PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [PotaDG] Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art
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> In case anyone's interested in bidding...
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> >Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2009 21:12:25 -0400
> >From: Jeff Jaworski <jaworsk4@msu. <mailto:jaworsk4%40msu.edu> edu>
> >Subject: Planet of the Apes original art
> >To: goathunter@GOATLEY. <mailto:goathunter%40GOATLEY.COM> COM,
> info@hassleinbooks. <mailto:info%40hassleinbooks.com> com
> >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9
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> >Original-recipient: rfc822;handleyr@optonline.
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> >I wanted you both to know that I have posted a page of art on ebay
> >from the original Marvel Comics magazine. The page is being sold for
> >original artist Herb Trimpe, who I represent via the
> >www.comicbook-art.com site. The link to the auction is:
> >http://cgi.ebay
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Group: potadg Message: 54139 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: Re: Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art
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eBay rule #1 - HOLD BACK ON YOUR BID!

All you are doing by bidding now is letting your competitors get ready for an onslaught at the end and letting the seller see he can get friends to up the bids and make your life a nightmare!

Wait until the last 5 minutes or so to bid, or even the last 30 seconds!

That's just my humble opinion but think about it! :)

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, PofTAfan@... wrote:
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> already 13 bids on it, and i'm still worried that someone is going to outbid me.
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Group: potadg Message: 54140 From: Jeff K. Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: OT: Fox says Sir Ridley or bust for "Alien 5"?
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 I keep bringing this up because it's good to know where Fox is coming from with their sci-fi flicks.Plus it's, well, sci-fi flicks! "Entertainment Weekly" says that Fox doesn't want to move on their "Alien" prequel unless Sir Ridley Scott himself directs. http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20283385,00.html"
 That's probably not an option, though after a long courtship they managed to get Oliver Stone for "Wall Street 2" (his first movie for the studio since the aborted "Planet of the Apes" variation). Scott has reportedly caught sci-fi fever 3 decades after his revered "Alien" and "Blade Runner" but his eye is  on Joe Haldeman's classic "The Forever War"  http://www.variety.com/VR1117993856.html" and maybe "Brave New World". Sir ain't directing an "Alien" movie, sir. Will Fox take no Sir for an answer? And does this mean they'll want a more seasoned director for "Caesar"?
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Group: potadg Message: 54141 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: Re: Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art
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Sounds like a good ideal, maybe that's the reason I lost the Escape art work.

Kevin


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 9:30 pm
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art



eBay rule #1 - HOLD BACK ON YOUR BID!

All you are doing by bidding now is letting your competitors get ready for an onslaught at the end and letting the seller see he can get friends to up the bids and make your life a nightmare!

Wait until the last 5 minutes or so to bid, or even the last 30 seconds!

That's just my humble opinion but think about it! :)

Michael

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, PofTAfan@... wrote:
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> Well I rebidded on the original art and I am currently the high bidder for the time being, there has
> already 13 bids on it, and i'm still worried that someone is going to outbid me.
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> From: PofTAfan@...
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> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 11:50
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Group: potadg Message: 54142 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: Re: Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art
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If you just get a maximum in your head then make sure you are there on the day and put that number in then all that can go wrong is net connection, net speed......so it has its faults too! :)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, PofTAfan@... wrote:
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> From: Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
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Group: potadg Message: 54143 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/9/2009
Subject: Re: OT: Fox says Sir Ridley or bust for "Alien 5"?
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Tim Burton! He's well seasoned, and he's already done a POTA movie! :)

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:

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Group: potadg Message: 54144 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Re: Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art
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Oh yes, there's nothing like the excitement of pressing the refresh button until you only have five seconds to bid, and then (with your pre-typed maximum on a separate window or tab), sending in your bid. When I do this, I swear that I can hear my heart beating between my ears, and the adrenalin rush you get--whew! So exciting! Almost like riding a roller coaster!
Jessica.

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If you just get a maximum in your head then make sure you are there on the day and put that number in then all that can go wrong is net connection, net speed......so it has its faults too! :)



--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, PofTAfan@... wrote:
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> Sounds like a good ideal, maybe that's the reason I lost the Escape art work.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 9:30 pm
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Group: potadg Message: 54145 From: Dave B Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
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Very nice!

I feel there's something very 'nostalgic' or 'Old World' in the delicate way that's been coloured. Like a plate you'd find in a quality book produced in the 40's or 50's? Take away Gideon and replace him with King Arthur or Aragorn...

What the hell am I talking about - anybody know?

Beautiful!

Dave B


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, PotaDG@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
>
> This email message is a notification to let you know that
> a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
> group.
>
> File : /Beast colour tests /Gideon (reworked splash page) sml.jpg
> Uploaded by : munkeyman63au <ntfoster@...>
> Description :
>
> You can access this file at the URL:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Beast%20colour%20tests%20/Gideon%20%28reworked%20splash%20page%29%20sml.jpg
>
> To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
> http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.htmliles
>
> Regards,
>
> munkeyman63au <ntfoster@...>
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Group: potadg Message: 54146 From: Rich Handley Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: tiger scorpions
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Does anyone here know anything about tiger scorpions? I'm re-watching
the episode "The Horse Race," in which Galen was bitten by a tiger
scorpion and nearly died. Oddly enough, however, I can't find ANY
Web pages about that kind of scorpion--not even one--leading me to
wonder if it's an actual scorpion breed, or a name created for the
episode. There's an online video in which a guy named Bear eats what
he says is a tiger scorpion, and there are some sites about a
Yoga-like position called the tiger scorpion, but that's all I can
find, which seems unfathomable if there really is such an
animal. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Group: potadg Message: 54147 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Re: tiger scorpions
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I fit was made up by the apes, how do they know what a tiger is!??


From: Rich Handley <handleyr@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 12:07:05 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] tiger scorpions

Does anyone here know anything about tiger scorpions? I'm re-watching
the episode "The Horse Race," in which Galen was bitten by a tiger
scorpion and nearly died. Oddly enough, however, I can't find ANY
Web pages about that kind of scorpion--not even one--leading me to
wonder if it's an actual scorpion breed, or a name created for the
episode. There's an online video in which a guy named Bear eats what
he says is a tiger scorpion, and there are some sites about a
Yoga-like position called the tiger scorpion, but that's all I can
find, which seems unfathomable if there really is such an
animal. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!


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Group: potadg Message: 54148 From: Wendy Kostora Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Re: tiger scorpions
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.html I remember some time back when I was working in the school's library, I was paging through the book that specialized in scorpions. If I remember rightly I was reading about tiger scorpion(s). They are generally very small and actually live in groups; meaning if you see one there are probably are more of them lurking about. They are commonly found in places like the New Mexico and Arizona desert, and are considered very poisonous. I remember also that they are striped, thus giving them their name.
 
As for apes retaining the name??? Well they probably would as they would retain the name "horse" or "dog" and so on. Of course in reality, in linquistics, such names would have evolved into something that would only sounds familiar to that of "horse" "Dog" or "Tiger Scorpion".
 
Wendy
 

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
From: apefan23@...
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:40:37 -0700
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] tiger scorpions



I fit was made up by the apes, how do they know what a tiger is!??


From: Rich Handley <handleyr@optonline. net>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 12:07:05 PM
Subject: [PotaDG] tiger scorpions

Does anyone here know anything about tiger scorpions? I'm re-watching
the episode "The Horse Race," in which Galen was bitten by a tiger
scorpion and nearly died. Oddly enough, however, I can't find ANY
Web pages about that kind of scorpion--not even one--leading me to
wonder if it's an actual scorpion breed, or a name created for the
episode. There's an online video in which a guy named Bear eats what
he says is a tiger scorpion, and there are some sites about a
Yoga-like position called the tiger scorpion, but that's all I can
find, which seems unfathomable if there really is such an
animal. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!






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Group: potadg Message: 54149 From: rassmguy Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Re: tiger scorpions
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Thanks, Wendy! Much appreciated. Odd, then, that I couldn't find any sites about the tiger scorpion. Hmmm.


--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, Wendy Kostora <Willowape@...> wrote:
>
>
> I remember some time back when I was working in the school's library, I was paging through the book that specialized in scorpions. If I remember rightly I was reading about tiger scorpion(s). They are generally very small and actually live in groups; meaning if you see one there are probably are more of them lurking about. They are commonly found in places like the New Mexico and Arizona desert, and are considered very poisonous. I remember also that they are striped, thus giving them their name.
>
>
>
> As for apes retaining the name??? Well they probably would as they would retain the name "horse" or "dog" and so on. Of course in reality, in linquistics, such names would have evolved into something that would only sounds familiar to that of "horse" "Dog" or "Tiger Scorpion".
>
>
>
> Wendy
>
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>
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> From: apefan23@...
> Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:40:37 -0700
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] tiger scorpions
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> I fit was made up by the apes, how do they know what a tiger is!??
>
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> From: Rich Handley <handleyr@...>
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 12:07:05 PM
> Subject: [PotaDG] tiger scorpions
>
>
>
> Does anyone here know anything about tiger scorpions? I'm re-watching
> the episode "The Horse Race," in which Galen was bitten by a tiger
> scorpion and nearly died. Oddly enough, however, I can't find ANY
> Web pages about that kind of scorpion--not even one--leading me to
> wonder if it's an actual scorpion breed, or a name created for the
> episode. There's an online video in which a guy named Bear eats what
> he says is a tiger scorpion, and there are some sites about a
> Yoga-like position called the tiger scorpion, but that's all I can
> find, which seems unfathomable if there really is such an
> animal. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Group: potadg Message: 54150 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/10/2009
Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
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    Thanks,
     
    Neil T. Foster
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
    Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:18 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG

    beautiful!


    From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@...>
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 5:06:32 PM
    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG

    The picture is called  Gideon (reworked splash page) sml.jpg  and it's in the  Beast colour tests  folder in the files section.
     
    Neil T. Foster
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
    Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 7:00 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG [1 Attachment]

    I do have another page that I coloured, well sort of, I did a painting based on another of the pages added to the print version, the opening splash page:
     with a couple of little changes (hey we can play spot the difference!)
    I'll upload it to the  Beast colour tests  folder in the files section.
     
    Neil T. Foster
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of John
    Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 12:23 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG

    Added Neil's color test for Beware the Beast to the files section in the folder with Dave Ballards color pages.

    -- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@.. .> wrote:
    >
    > The ones in the files section are all painted by Dave Ballard, and very
    > nice they are too. I did a test colouring of this page:
    >
    > that we added to the printed version (issue#2) but it is not in the
    > files and I have gone and lost it. I must have deleted it or something
    > and all the files that were with it and I have no back-up copy so if
    > anyone did keep a copy of it I would really appreciate having a copy of
    > it.
    >
    > Neil T. Foster
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf
    > Of Michael & Sally Whitty
    > Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 7:46 AM
    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    > Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
    >
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    > I'll have to throw this one back at Neil.
    >
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    > There's a few that Dave Ballard coloured and some Neil coloured.
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    Group: potadg Message: 54151 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/10/2009
    Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
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    Yes this one was done with water colours.
     
    Neil T. Foster
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
    Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:04 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG

    Neil

    This was water painted right, not digitally?

    .

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    Group: potadg Message: 54152 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/10/2009
    Subject: Re: [pota] Biggest companies of POTA products in 1974
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    No way, I'm not going in there, might never find a way out again! ;-)
     
    Neil T. Foster
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
    Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:09 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] Biggest companies of POTA products in 1974

    Next time you come over, it's in the garage with all the other paper goods.

    We just have to move a thousand boxes to get there....

    .

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    Group: potadg Message: 54153 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/10/2009
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art
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    And then you find out someone else has done the same, only with a higher amount and you don't get a chance to put on a higher bid!
     
    Neil T. Foster
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
    Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 3:59 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art

    Oh yes, there's nothing like the excitement of pressing the refresh button until you only have five seconds to bid, and then (with your pre-typed maximum on a separate window or tab), sending in your bid.  When I do this, I swear that I can hear my heart beating between my ears, and the adrenalin rush you get--whew!  So exciting!  Almost like riding a roller coaster!
    .

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    Group: potadg Message: 54154 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/10/2009
    Subject: Re: tiger scorpions
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    My wife and I do it Tiger Scorpion style all the time Rich!

    Michael

     


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Rich Handley
    Sent: Thursday, 11 June 2009 2:07 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] tiger scorpions

     




    Does anyone here know anything about tiger scorpions? I'm re-watching
    the episode "The Horse Race," in which Galen was bitten by a tiger
    scorpion and nearly died. Oddly enough, however, I can't find ANY
    Web pages about that kind of scorpion--not even one--leading me to
    wonder if it's an actual scorpion breed, or a name created for the
    episode. There's an online video in which a guy named Bear eats what
    he says is a tiger scorpion, and there are some sites about a
    Yoga-like position called the tiger scorpion, but that's all I can
    find, which seems unfathomable if there really is such an
    animal. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

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    Group: potadg Message: 54155 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/10/2009
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art
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    But that's why you need to put the highest amount you can live with without feeling buyer's remorse.

    If you did not win it, then it wasn't meant to be, because there might be something even better than what you just lost out on.

    Jess.

    On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Neil Foster < ntfoster@...> wrote:


    And then you find out someone else has done the same, only with a higher amount and you don't get a chance to put on a higher bid!
    Neil T. Foster
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
    Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 3:59 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art

    Oh yes, there's nothing like the excitement of pressing the refresh button until you only have five seconds to bid, and then (with your pre-typed maximum on a separate window or tab), sending in your bid. When I do this, I swear that I can hear my heart beating between my ears, and the adrenalin rush you get--whew! So exciting! Almost like riding a roller coaster!
    .


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    Group: potadg Message: 54156 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/10/2009
    Subject: Re: tiger scorpions
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    The book the lads found with a zoo picture!

     


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
    Sent: Thursday, 11 June 2009 2:41 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] tiger scorpions

     




    I fit was made up by the apes, how do they know what a tiger is!??

     


    From: Rich Handley <handleyr@optonline. net>
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 12:07:05 PM
    Subject: [PotaDG] tiger scorpions

    Does anyone here know anything about tiger scorpions? I'm re-watching
    the episode "The Horse Race," in which Galen was bitten by a tiger
    scorpion and nearly died. Oddly enough, however, I can't find ANY
    Web pages about that kind of scorpion--not even one--leading me to
    wonder if it's an actual scorpion breed, or a name created for the
    episode. There's an online video in which a guy named Bear eats what
    he says is a tiger scorpion, and there are some sites about a
    Yoga-like position called the tiger scorpion, but that's all I can
    find, which seems unfathomable if there really is such an
    animal. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

     

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    Group: potadg Message: 54157 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/10/2009
    Subject: Re: tiger scorpions
    .html
    .html

    Maybe try your Funk and Wagnels?

     


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of rassmguy
    Sent: Thursday, 11 June 2009 3:14 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: tiger scorpions

     




    Thanks, Wendy! Much appreciated. Odd, then, that I couldn't find any sites about the tiger scorpion. Hmmm.

    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, Wendy Kostora <Willowape@. ..> wrote:

    >
    >
    > I remember some time back when I was working in the school's library, I
    was paging through the book that specialized in scorpions. If I remember rightly I was reading about tiger scorpion(s). They are generally very small and actually live in groups; meaning if you see one there are probably are more of them lurking about. They are commonly found in places like the New Mexico and Arizona desert, and are considered very poisonous. I remember also that they are striped, thus giving them their name.
    >
    >
    >
    > As for apes retaining the name??? Well they probably would as they would
    retain the name "horse" or "dog" and so on. Of course in reality, in linquistics, such names would have evolved into something that would only sounds familiar to that of "horse" "Dog" or "Tiger Scorpion".
    >
    >
    >
    > Wendy
    >
    >
    >
    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    > From: apefan23@...
    > Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:40:37 -0700
    > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] tiger scorpions
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    > I fit was made up by the apes, how do they know what a tiger is!??
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    > From: Rich Handley <handleyr@.. .>
    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 12:07:05 PM
    > Subject: [PotaDG] tiger scorpions
    >
    >
    >
    > Does anyone here know anything about tiger scorpions? I'm re-watching
    > the episode "The Horse Race," in which Galen was bitten by a
    tiger
    > scorpion and nearly died. Oddly enough, however, I can't find ANY
    > Web pages about that kind of scorpion--not even one--leading me to
    > wonder if it's an actual scorpion breed, or a name created for the
    > episode. There's an online video in which a guy named Bear eats what
    > he says is a tiger scorpion, and there are some sites about a
    > Yoga-like position called the tiger scorpion, but that's all I can
    > find, which seems unfathomable if there really is such an
    > animal. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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    Group: potadg Message: 54158 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/10/2009
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    It must have been a radiation spawned mutant from a tiger and a scorpion match up then! Geez I wouldn't want to be in the room when that baby was being made! ;-)
     
    Neil T. Foster
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rich Handley
    Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 2:07 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] tiger scorpions

    Does anyone here know anything about tiger scorpions? I'm re-watching
    the episode "The Horse Race," in which Galen was bitten by a tiger
    scorpion and nearly died. Oddly enough, however, I can't find ANY
    Web pages about that kind of scorpion--not even one--leading me to
    wonder if it's an actual scorpion breed, or a name created for the
    episode. There's an online video in which a guy named Bear eats what
    he says is a tiger scorpion, and there are some sites about a
    Yoga-like position called the tiger scorpion, but that's all I can
    find, which seems unfathomable if there really is such an
    animal. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

    .

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    Group: potadg Message: 54159 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/10/2009
    Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
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    Thanks Dave, there is something a bit less 'harsh' about 'real' painting compared with stuff coloured on the computer I think.
     
    Neil T. Foster
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave B
    Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:20 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG

    Very nice!

    I feel there's something very 'nostalgic' or 'Old World' in the delicate way that's been coloured. Like a plate you'd find in a quality book produced in the 40's or 50's? Take away Gideon and replace him with King Arthur or Aragorn...

    What the hell am I talking about - anybody know?

    Beautiful!

    .

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    Group: potadg Message: 54160 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/10/2009
    Subject: Re: tiger scorpions
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    Maybe the wikipaedia explains why different varieties are rarely referred to:

     

    There are about 2,000 species of scorpions, found widely distributed south of about 49° N, except New Zealand and Antarctica.

     


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of rassmguy
    Sent: Thursday, 11 June 2009 3:14 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: tiger scorpions

     




    Thanks, Wendy! Much appreciated. Odd, then, that I couldn't find any sites about the tiger scorpion. Hmmm.

    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, Wendy Kostora <Willowape@. ..> wrote:

    >
    >
    > I remember some time back when I was working in the school's library, I
    was paging through the book that specialized in scorpions. If I remember rightly I was reading about tiger scorpion(s). They are generally very small and actually live in groups; meaning if you see one there are probably are more of them lurking about. They are commonly found in places like the New Mexico and Arizona desert, and are considered very poisonous. I remember also that they are striped, thus giving them their name.
    >
    >
    >
    > As for apes retaining the name??? Well they probably would as they would
    retain the name "horse" or "dog" and so on. Of course in reality, in linquistics, such names would have evolved into something that would only sounds familiar to that of "horse" "Dog" or "Tiger Scorpion".
    >
    >
    >
    > Wendy
    >
    >
    >
    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    > From: apefan23@...
    > Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:40:37 -0700
    > Subject: Re: [PotaDG] tiger scorpions
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > I fit was made up by the apes, how do they know what a tiger is!??
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > From: Rich Handley <handleyr@.. .>
    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 12:07:05 PM
    > Subject: [PotaDG] tiger scorpions
    >
    >
    >
    > Does anyone here know anything about tiger scorpions? I'm re-watching
    > the episode "The Horse Race," in which Galen was bitten by a
    tiger
    > scorpion and nearly died. Oddly enough, however, I can't find ANY
    > Web pages about that kind of scorpion--not even one--leading me to
    > wonder if it's an actual scorpion breed, or a name created for the
    > episode. There's an online video in which a guy named Bear eats what
    > he says is a tiger scorpion, and there are some sites about a
    > Yoga-like position called the tiger scorpion, but that's all I can
    > find, which seems unfathomable if there really is such an
    > animal. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
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    Group: potadg Message: 54161 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/10/2009
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art
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    A good philosophy, and one I usually stick with if it happens to me, that is when I eventually get over the bitter disappointment and the murderous rage has passed. ;-)
     
    Neil T. Foster
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
    Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 6:33 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art

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    Group: potadg Message: 54162 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/10/2009
    Subject: Re: [pota] Biggest companies of POTA products in 1974
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    We’ll send the kids in with oxygen!

     

    Michael

     


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
    Sent: Thursday, 11 June 2009 6:25 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] Biggest companies of POTA products in 1974

     




    No way, I'm not going in there, might never find a way out again! ;-)

     

    Neil T. Foster

     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
    Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 11:09 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: [pota] Biggest companies of POTA products in 1974

    Next time you come over, it's in the garage with all the other paper goods.

    We just have to move a thousand boxes to get there....

    .

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    Group: potadg Message: 54163 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/10/2009
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art
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    You.

     

     

    I once bid 10,000.

     

    I won it for 600 or so!

     


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
    Sent: Thursday, 11 June 2009 6:33 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art

     




    But that's why you need to put the highest amount you can live with without feeling buyer's remorse. 

    If you did not win it, then it wasn't meant to be, because there might be something even better than what you just lost out on.

    Jess.

    On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@bigpond. com> wrote:

     

    And then you find out someone else has done the same, only with a higher amount and you don't get a chance to put on a higher bid!

     

    Neil T. Foster

     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
    Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 3:59 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com

    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Fwd: Planet of the Apes original art

    Oh yes, there's nothing like the excitement of pressing the refresh button until you only have five seconds to bid, and then (with your pre-typed maximum on a separate window or tab), sending in your bid.  When I do this, I swear that I can hear my heart beating between my ears, and the adrenalin rush you get--whew!  So exciting!  Almost like riding a roller coaster!

    .

     

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    Group: potadg Message: 54164 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/10/2009
    Subject: Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
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    Hmmm… the jury is still out here…..

     


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
    Sent: Thursday, 11 June 2009 6:35 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG

     




    Thanks Dave, there is something a bit less 'harsh' about 'real' painting compared with stuff coloured on the computer I think.

     

    Neil T. Foster

     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Dave B
    Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 6:20 PM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG

    Very nice!

    I feel there's something very 'nostalgic' or ' Old World ' in the delicate way that's been coloured. Like a plate you'd find in a quality book produced in the 40's or 50's? Take away Gideon and replace him with King Arthur or Aragorn...

    What the hell am I talking about - anybody know?

    Beautiful!

    .

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    Group: potadg Message: 54165 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/10/2009
    Subject: Re: tiger scorpions
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    “ROARFSSS”

     


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
    Sent: Thursday, 11 June 2009 6:35 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] tiger scorpions

     




    It must have been a radiation spawned mutant from a tiger and a scorpion match up then! Geez I wouldn't want to be in the room when that baby was being made! ;-)

     

    Neil T. Foster

     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Rich Handley
    Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 2:07 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    Subject: [PotaDG] tiger scorpions

    Does anyone here know anything about tiger scorpions? I'm re-watching
    the episode "The Horse Race," in which Galen was bitten by a tiger
    scorpion and nearly died. Oddly enough, however, I can't find ANY
    Web pages about that kind of scorpion--not even one--leading me to
    wonder if it's an actual scorpion breed, or a name created for the
    episode. There's an online video in which a guy named Bear eats what
    he says is a tiger scorpion, and there are some sites about a
    Yoga-like position called the tiger scorpion, but that's all I can
    find, which seems unfathomable if there really is such an
    animal. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

    .

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    Group: potadg Message: 54166 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/10/2009
    Subject: Re: tiger scorpions
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    I wonder how come we have them here then but they don't in New Zealand? Bit strange.
     
    Neil T. Foster
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
    Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 6:39 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: tiger scorpions

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    Group: potadg Message: 54167 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/10/2009
    Subject: Re: tiger scorpions
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    Wasn't seen by any of the Apes.
     
    Neil T. Foster
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
    Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 6:34 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] tiger scorpions

    The book the lads found with a zoo picture!

    .

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    Group: potadg Message: 54168 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/10/2009
    Subject: Re: tiger scorpions
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    Then word of mouth as the English language was taken on I guess…

     


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
    Sent: Thursday, 11 June 2009 6:42 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] tiger scorpions

     




    Wasn't seen by any of the Apes.

     

    Neil T. Foster

     

    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
    Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 6:34 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] tiger scorpions

    The book the lads found with a zoo picture!

    .

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    Group: potadg Message: 54169 From: rassmguy Date: 6/10/2009
    Subject: Re: tiger scorpions
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    LOL!!


    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@...> wrote:
    > "ROARFSSS"
    > Neil Foster
    > It must have been a radiation spawned mutant from a tiger and a scorpion
    > match up then! Geez I wouldn't want to be in the room when that baby was
    > being made! ;-)
    >
    >
    >
    > Neil T. Foster
    >
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of
    > Rich Handley
    > Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 2:07 AM
    > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [PotaDG] tiger scorpions
    >
    > Does anyone here know anything about tiger scorpions? I'm re-watching
    > the episode "The Horse Race," in which Galen was bitten by a tiger
    > scorpion and nearly died. Oddly enough, however, I can't find ANY
    > Web pages about that kind of scorpion--not even one--leading me to
    > wonder if it's an actual scorpion breed, or a name created for the
    > episode. There's an online video in which a guy named Bear eats what
    > he says is a tiger scorpion, and there are some sites about a
    > Yoga-like position called the tiger scorpion, but that's all I can
    > find, which seems unfathomable if there really is such an
    > animal. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
    >
    > .
    >
    >
    > <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=8605785/grpspId=1705021437/msgId
    > =54146/stime=1244650268/nc1=1/nc2=2/nc3=3>
    >
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    Group: potadg Message: 54170 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/10/2009
    Subject: Sideshow Zaius PF
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    I just canceled my preorder of the exclusive Zaius PF.

    Sad sad day....

    Jessica.
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    Group: potadg Message: 54171 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/10/2009
    Subject: Re: Sideshow Zaius PF
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    why Jess?


    From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 7:03:31 PM
    Subject: [PotaDG] Sideshow Zaius PF

    I just canceled my preorder of the exclusive Zaius PF. 

    Sad sad day....

    Jessica.


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    Group: potadg Message: 54172 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/10/2009
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    I have never heard any confirmation that Sideshow was going to fix the minor flaws with their premium format figure, although I posted everywhere possible when the prototype photographs were made available so that they could fix it before it goes into production. I guess I am just sad that Sideshow never bothered to listen to me...and besides, who am I anyway? Who am I kidding?

    Jess.

    On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Tim "apefan" < apefan23@...> wrote:


    why Jess?


    From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 7:03:31 PM
    Subject: [PotaDG] Sideshow Zaius PF

    I just canceled my preorder of the exclusive Zaius PF.

    Sad sad day....

    Jessica.



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    Group: potadg Message: 54173 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/10/2009
    Subject: Re: Sideshow Zaius PF
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    Jess

    Do me a favour (and yourself!).

    Go pick up the phone and call SIDESHOW and ask to speak to someone about the new DR Z figure.

    Let them know you are part of a community of POTA fans and you need some feedback on the new premuim figure and that there are people ready to cancel their orders, just like you had to, if they don't get some answers.

    Give it a go!

    Michael

    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:
    >
    > I have never heard any confirmation that Sideshow was going to fix the minor
    > flaws with their premium format figure, although I posted everywhere
    > possible when the prototype photographs were made available so that they
    > could fix it before it goes into production. I guess I am just sad that
    > Sideshow never bothered to listen to me...and besides, who am I anyway? Who
    > am I kidding?
    >
    > Jess.
    >
    > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Tim "apefan" <apefan23@...> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >
    > > why Jess?
    > >
    > > ------------------------------
    > > *From:* jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
    > > *To:* PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    > > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 10, 2009 7:03:31 PM
    > > *Subject:* [PotaDG] Sideshow Zaius PF
    > >
    > > I just canceled my preorder of the exclusive Zaius PF.
    > >
    > > Sad sad day....
    > >
    > > Jessica.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >
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    Group: potadg Message: 54174 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/10/2009
    Subject: Re: Sideshow Zaius PF
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    I guess I haven't been paying attention..what are the minor flaws?


    From: Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:40:33 PM
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Sideshow Zaius PF

    Jess

    Do me a favour (and yourself!).

    Go pick up the phone and call SIDESHOW and ask to speak to someone about the new DR Z figure.

    Let them know you are part of a community of POTA fans and you need some feedback on the new premuim figure and that there are people ready to cancel their orders, just like you had to, if they don't get some answers.

    Give it a go!

    Michael

    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ ...> wrote:
    >
    > I have never heard any confirmation that Sideshow was going to fix the minor
    > flaws with their premium format figure, although I posted everywhere
    > possible when the prototype photographs were made available so that they
    > could fix it before it goes into production. I guess I am just sad that
    > Sideshow never bothered to listen to me...and besides, who am I anyway? Who
    > am I kidding?
    >
    > Jess.
    >
    > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Tim "apefan" <apefan23@.. .> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >
    > > why Jess?
    > >
    > > ------------ --------- ---------
    > > *From:* jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ ...>
    > > *To:* PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    > > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 10, 2009 7:03:31 PM
    > > *Subject:* [PotaDG] Sideshow Zaius PF
    > >
    > > I just canceled my preorder of the exclusive Zaius PF.
    > >
    > > Sad sad day....
    > >
    > > Jessica.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >


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    Group: potadg Message: 54175 From: jessica rotich Date: 6/11/2009
    Subject: Re: Sideshow Zaius PF
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    Tim, this is what I wrote to Sideshow's customer service when I received the cancellation notification:
    I wanted to know if the problems of the Zaius PF jacket have been fixed: Does it look like he's still wearing it backwards because of the curve where the leather meets the material? Does his jacket look like it's got two sets of lapels, one for the front side and one set for the backside? The bottom of the leather of his jacket---is the leather still short or did Sideshow extend it? If the leather has not been extended then Dr. Zaius will still look like he's wearing his jacket backwards--even moreso with the shortened leather. And last, did Sideshow make the exclusive doll with both legs intact? If not, Sideshow must have used the wrong screenshot, and I advise you to look carefully again. I never received an answer from Sideshow, and I do not want to be surprised. These I know are minor flaws, but they are of a concern to me. These flaws would bug the heck out of me, most especially his jacket. I don't care if it's his backside we are talking about. A PF needs to be admired from all directions.
    Jess.

    Michael I will call Sideshow in a few days to see if I can get anywhere, when the dust at work has settled down.
    On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Tim "apefan" < apefan23@...> wrote:


    I guess I haven't been paying attention..what are the minor flaws?


    From: Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:40:33 PM
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Sideshow Zaius PF

    Jess

    Do me a favour (and yourself!).

    Go pick up the phone and call SIDESHOW and ask to speak to someone about the new DR Z figure.

    Let them know you are part of a community of POTA fans and you need some feedback on the new premuim figure and that there are people ready to cancel their orders, just like you had to, if they don't get some answers.

    Give it a go!

    Michael

    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ ...> wrote:
    >
    > I have never heard any confirmation that Sideshow was going to fix the minor
    > flaws with their premium format figure, although I posted everywhere
    > possible when the prototype photographs were made available so that they
    > could fix it before it goes into production. I guess I am just sad that
    > Sideshow never bothered to listen to me...and besides, who am I anyway? Who
    > am I kidding?
    >
    > Jess.
    >
    > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Tim "apefan" <apefan23@.. .> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >
    > > why Jess?
    > >
    > > ------------ --------- ---------
    > > *From:* jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ ...>
    > > *To:* PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    > > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 10, 2009 7:03:31 PM
    > > *Subject:* [PotaDG] Sideshow Zaius PF
    > >
    > > I just canceled my preorder of the exclusive Zaius PF.
    > >
    > > Sad sad day....
    > >
    > > Jessica.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >



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    Group: potadg Message: 54176 From: Chris Hight Date: 6/11/2009
    Subject: Re: Sideshow Zaius PF
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    Good for you, Jess. I've felt the same way and I'm glad you are hitting Sideshow where it hurts. Plus, you can make a better and cheaper Zaius yourself. 
     


    From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 7:29:18 PM
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Sideshow Zaius PF

    I have never heard any confirmation that Sideshow was going to fix the minor flaws with their premium format figure, although I posted everywhere possible when the prototype photographs were made available so that they could fix it before it goes into production.  I guess I am just sad that Sideshow never bothered to listen to me...and besides, who am I anyway?  Who am I kidding?

    Jess.

    On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Tim "apefan" < apefan23@yahoo. com> wrote:


    why Jess?


    From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com>
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 7:03:31 PM
    Subject: [PotaDG] Sideshow Zaius PF

    I just canceled my preorder of the exclusive Zaius PF. 

    Sad sad day....

    Jessica.




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    Group: potadg Message: 54177 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/11/2009
    Subject: Re: Sideshow Zaius PF
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    What do you mean by "both legs intact?!


    From: jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...>
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Thursday, June 11, 2009 3:32:37 AM
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Sideshow Zaius PF

    Tim, this is what I wrote to Sideshow's customer service when I received the cancellation notification:
     
    I wanted to know if the problems of the Zaius PF jacket have been fixed:  Does it look like he's still wearing it backwards because of the curve where the leather meets the material?  Does his jacket look like it's got two sets of lapels, one for the front side and one set for the backside?  The bottom of the leather of his jacket---is the leather still short or did Sideshow extend it?  If the leather has not been extended then Dr. Zaius will still look like he's wearing his jacket backwards--even moreso with the shortened leather.  And last, did Sideshow make the exclusive doll with both legs intact?  If not, Sideshow must have used the wrong screenshot, and I advise you to look carefully again.  I never received an answer from Sideshow, and I do not want to be surprised.  These I know are minor flaws, but they are of a concern to me.  These flaws would bug the heck out of me, most especially his jacket.  I don't care if it's his backside we are talking about.  A PF needs to be admired from all directions.
     
     
    Jess.

    Michael I will call Sideshow in a few days to see if I can get anywhere, when the dust at work has settled down.
     
     
     
    On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 9:02 PM, Tim "apefan" < apefan23@yahoo. com> wrote:


    I guess I haven't been paying attention..what are the minor flaws?


    From: Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@ bigpond.com>
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 8:40:33 PM
    Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Sideshow Zaius PF

    Jess

    Do me a favour (and yourself!).

    Go pick up the phone and call SIDESHOW and ask to speak to someone about the new DR Z figure.

    Let them know you are part of a community of POTA fans and you need some feedback on the new premuim figure and that there are people ready to cancel their orders, just like you had to, if they don't get some answers.

    Give it a go!

    Michael

    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ ...> wrote:
    >
    > I have never heard any confirmation that Sideshow was going to fix the minor
    > flaws with their premium format figure, although I posted everywhere
    > possible when the prototype photographs were made available so that they
    > could fix it before it goes into production. I guess I am just sad that
    > Sideshow never bothered to listen to me...and besides, who am I anyway? Who
    > am I kidding?
    >
    > Jess.
    >
    > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Tim "apefan" <apefan23@.. .> wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >
    > > why Jess?
    > >
    > > ------------ --------- ---------
    > > *From:* jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ ...>
    > > *To:* PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
    > > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 10, 2009 7:03:31 PM
    > > *Subject:* [PotaDG] Sideshow Zaius PF
    > >
    > > I just canceled my preorder of the exclusive Zaius PF.
    > >
    > > Sad sad day....
    > >
    > > Jessica.
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >




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    Group: potadg Message: 54178 From: Anthony B. McElveen Date: 6/11/2009
    Subject: Re: Sideshow Zaius PF
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    Although it doesn't excuse the short leather, it's entirely possible that the jacket on the prototype IS on backwards; the people who dress and photograph prototypes are rarely the same people who created them.

    On Jun 11, 2009, at 2:32 am, jessica rotich wrote:

    Tim, this is what I wrote to Sideshow's customer service when I received the cancellation notification:
     
    I wanted to know if the problems of the Zaius PF jacket have been fixed:  Does it look like he's still wearing it backwards because of the curve where the leather meets the material?  Does his jacket look like it's got two sets of lapels, one for the front side and one set for the backside?  The bottom of the leather of his jacket---is the leather still short or did Sideshow extend it?  If the leather has not been extended then Dr. Zaius will still look like he's wearing his jacket backwards--even moreso with the shortened leather.  And last, did Sideshow make the exclusive doll with both legs intact?  If not, Sideshow must have used the wrong screenshot, and I advise you to look carefully again.  I never received an answer from Sideshow, and I do not want to be surprised.  These I know are minor flaws, but they are of a concern to me.  These flaws would bug the heck out of me, most especially his jacket.  I don't care if it's his backside we are talking about.  A PF needs to be admired from all directions.
     
     
    Jess.

    Michael I will call Sideshow in a few days to see if I can get anywhere, when the dust at work has settled down.
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    The doll that Zaius is holding could have stumps for legs just like the 1:6 scale Sideshow Zaius. The prototype photographs conveniently hide the doll's legs. Although the PF Zaius Exclusive doll looks fabulous and grungy...they don't show you the legs of the doll.

    http://www.sideshowtoy.com/?page_id=4489&sku=75141FLEX&utm_source=search0109

    Why would they dress/undress Zaius to photograph his backside? Doesn't that take up valuable photography time?

    And then the other minor gripe I have is the actual pose of the hand for the non-exclusive version. This I did not mention to Sideshow, but one of the ape freaks on the Sideshow board did mention that it looks like Dr. Zaius is holding out his hand begging for cash. The hand and arm I think is stuck in that begging pose. So it just makes sense to take the leap and purchase the exclusive version, which includes a doll that he can hold. Legless/footless? I hope not, for the people who already are paying a premium price for this premium format statue.

    Who was it that said, Zillion-dollar Zaius? Michael, wasn't it? Very "whitty"...

    Jess.

    On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Anthony B. McElveen <abmac404@...> wrote:


    Although it doesn't excuse the short leather, it's entirely possible that the jacket on the prototype IS on backwards; the people who dress and photograph prototypes are rarely the same people who created them.

    On Jun 11, 2009, at 2:32 am, jessica rotich wrote:

    Tim, this is what I wrote to Sideshow's customer service when I received the cancellation notification:
    I wanted to know if the problems of the Zaius PF jacket have been fixed: Does it look like he's still wearing it backwards because of the curve where the leather meets the material? Does his jacket look like it's got two sets of lapels, one for the front side and one set for the backside? The bottom of the leather of his jacket---is the leather still short or did Sideshow extend it? If the leather has not been extended then Dr. Zaius will still look like he's wearing his jacket backwards--even moreso with the shortened leather. And last, did Sideshow make the exclusive doll with both legs intact? If not, Sideshow must have used the wrong screenshot, and I advise you to look carefully again. I never received an answer from Sideshow, and I do not want to be surprised. These I know are minor flaws, but they are of a concern to me. These flaws would bug the heck out of me, most especially his jacket. I don't care if it's his backside we are talking about. A PF needs to be admired from all directions.
    Jess.

    Michael I will call Sideshow in a few days to see if I can get anywhere, when the dust at work has settled down.

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    Group: potadg Message: 54180 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/11/2009
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    Now I wish my surname was “Sexy”!  J

     


    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
    Sent: Friday, 12 June 2009 2:38 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Sideshow Zaius PF

     

    Who was it that said, Zillion-dollar Zaius?  Michael, wasn't it?  Very "whitty"...

    Jess.

     

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    I never really checked these out properly before as I'm not into the dollies ;-) but I wonder if anyone contacted them to complain about their 'Gorilla Captain'? What are they thinking - a TV show gorilla with Beneath accessories!
     
    Neil T. Foster
     
    -----Original Message-----
    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
    Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 2:38 AM
    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Sideshow Zaius PF

    The doll that Zaius is holding could have stumps for legs just like the 1:6 scale Sideshow Zaius.  The prototype photographs conveniently hide the doll's legs.  Although the PF Zaius Exclusive doll looks fabulous and grungy...they don't show you the legs of the doll. 

    http://www.sideshow toy.com/? page_id=4489&sku=75141FLEX&utm_source=search01 09

    Why would they dress/undress Zaius to photograph his backside?  Doesn't that take up valuable photography time?

    And then the other minor gripe I have is the actual pose of the hand for the non-exclusive version.  This I did not mention to Sideshow, but one of the ape freaks on the Sideshow board did mention that it looks like Dr. Zaius is holding out his hand begging for cash.  The hand and arm I think is stuck in that begging pose.  So it just makes sense to take the leap and purchase the exclusive version, which includes a doll that he can hold.  Legless/footless?  I hope not, for the people who already are paying a premium price for this premium format statue.

    Who was it that said, Zillion-dollar Zaius?  Michael, wasn't it?  Very "whitty"...

    Jess.

    On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:37 AM, Anthony B. McElveen <abmac404@bellsouth. net> wrote:


    Although it doesn't excuse the short leather, it's entirely possible that the jacket on the prototype IS on backwards; the people who dress and photograph prototypes are rarely the same people who created them.

    On Jun 11, 2009, at 2:32 am, jessica rotich wrote:

    Tim, this is what I wrote to Sideshow's customer service when I received the cancellation notification:
     
    I wanted to know if the problems of the Zaius PF jacket have been fixed:  Does it look like he's still wearing it backwards because of the curve where the leather meets the material?  Does his jacket look like it's got two sets of lapels, one for the front side and one set for the backside?  The bottom of the leather of his jacket---is the leather still short or did Sideshow extend it?  If the leather has not been extended then Dr. Zaius will still look like he's wearing his jacket backwards--even moreso with the shortened leather.  And last, did Sideshow make the exclusive doll with both legs intact?  If not, Sideshow must have used the wrong screenshot, and I advise you to look carefully again.  I never received an answer from Sideshow, and I do not want to be surprised.  These I know are minor flaws, but they are of a concern to me.  These flaws would bug the heck out of me, most especially his jacket.  I don't care if it's his backside we are talking about.  A PF needs to be admired from all directions.
     
     
    Jess.

    Michael I will call Sideshow in a few days to see if I can get anywhere, when the dust at work has settled down.

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     20th Century Props, which bought out Fox's prop department in 1994, is closing up and having a big auction in July. Would I Ju-lie to you? No mention of POTA but they'll probably have $omething.
     
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     Talk about a comeback. Maybe there was something to all those religious epics he did. Actually, the divine intervention is the folks who shot the movie "Genghis Khan" with Charlton Heston in 1992 and then ran out of money. Now they're looking to finish the movie and release it. Doesn't sound like the recipe for a quality film but if it's any good it'll be one last "new" performance in a movie theater with Chuck. The late Pat Morita is also in it.
     
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     The recent rumor that Fox is giving thumbs down to the Scott Bros.' choice for a director of their "Alien" prequel and wants Sir Ridley Scott to take the reins like he did with the original seems to have gained some weight. Tony Scott, Sir Ridley's brother, is out promoting his remake of "The Taking of Pelham" and refused to comment on "Alien", suggesting there's some conflict going on.
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 54185 From: Michael Whitty Date: 6/11/2009
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    Reminds me of Monty Python:

    "Bring out your dead!" :)

    Michael
    --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
    >
    > Talk about a comeback. Maybe there was something to all those religious epics he did. Actually, the divine intervention is the folks who shot the movie "Genghis Khan" with Charlton Heston in 1992 and then ran out of money. Now they're looking to finish the movie and release it. Doesn't sound like the recipe for a quality film but if it's any good it'll be one last "new" performance in a movie theater with Chuck. The late Pat Morita is also in it.
    >
    > http://marhew.tripod.com/hestfest/id8.html"
    >
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    Group: potadg Message: 54186 From: mlccougar@aol.com Date: 6/11/2009
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    In a message dated 6/11/09 5:51:04 PM Central Daylight Time, ntfoster@... writes:
    What are they thinking - a TV show gorilla with Beneath accessories!
    *** Sort of the same mistake as the 12" Hasbro "Sergeant"... Not only did they market him as a movie series gorilla, but they called a gorilla who clearly has Captain stripes a Sergeant... ***
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    Group: potadg Message: 54187 From: TZer0@aol.com Date: 6/11/2009
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    Reminds me of John Wayne's Genghis Khan Movie.
    If it's as funny as that I'll go see it.     XD
     
     
     
    In a message dated 6/11/2009 9:24:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time, veetus@... writes:
    "Genghis Khan" with Charlton Heston in 1992
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    Group: potadg Message: 54188 From: Jeff K. Date: 6/12/2009
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     The great scooper Nikke Finke says that Fox's Exec V.P. is stepping down and that Fox "will likely upgrade the position because of so many franchises in the works".
     See? I told you they do it for the art!
     
     
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    Group: potadg Message: 54189 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/12/2009
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      Hey!!!

      This says each belt comes with a free glossy photo!!!

      Any ideas?

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      Group: potadg Message: 54190 From: John B Kirtley Date: 6/12/2009
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        Play slideshow Play slideshow Save all photos Save all photos Want to save all these photos at once? Learn how
        Online pictures are available for 30 days
         
        Found this at www.nerdoh.co.uk  its £19.00 and very cool.
         
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        Group: potadg Message: 54191 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/12/2009
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        Would they still have any Apes stuff left after all these years?
         
        Neil T. Foster
         
        -----Original Message-----
        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
        Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:17 PM
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [PotaDG] OT: 20th Century Fox prop auction

         
         20th Century Props, which bought out Fox's prop department in 1994, is closing up and having a big auction in July. Would I Ju-lie to you? No mention of POTA but they'll probably have $omething.
         

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        Group: potadg Message: 54192 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/12/2009
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        Well that will be interesting to see, a bit weird but interesting.
         
        Neil T. Foster
         
        -----Original Message-----
        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
        Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:21 PM
        To: pota@yahoogroups.com; PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [PotaDG] New Heston movie in 2009?

         Talk about a comeback. Maybe there was something to all those religious epics he did. Actually, the divine intervention is the folks who shot the movie "Genghis Khan" with Charlton Heston in 1992 and then ran out of money. Now they're looking to finish the movie and release it. Doesn't sound like the recipe for a quality film but if it's any good it'll be one last "new" performance in a movie theater with Chuck. The late Pat Morita is also in it.
         

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        Group: potadg Message: 54193 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/12/2009
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        "I feel better"
         
        Neil T. Foster
         
        -----Original Message-----
        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
        Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:36 PM
        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New Heston movie in 2009?

        Reminds me of Monty Python:

        "Bring out your dead!" :)

        Michael
        --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
        >
        > Talk about a comeback. Maybe there was something to all those religious epics he did. Actually, the divine intervention is the folks who shot the movie "Genghis Khan" with Charlton Heston in 1992 and then ran out of money. Now they're looking to finish the movie and release it. Doesn't sound like the recipe for a quality film but if it's any good it'll be one last "new" performance in a movie theater with Chuck. The late Pat Morita is also in it.
        >
        > http://marhew. tripod.com/ hestfest/ id8.html"
        >

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        Group: potadg Message: 54194 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/12/2009
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          I quite like that as a design, even if it does use that damn Icarus name for the spaceship again.
           
          Neil T. Foster
           
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          From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of John B Kirtley
          Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 7:13 AM
          To: PotaDG
          Subject: [PotaDG] New Tee shirt

          Play slideshow Play slideshow Save all photos Save all photos Want to save all these photos at once? Learn how
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          Found this at www.nerdoh.co. uk  its £19.00 and very cool.
           

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          Group: potadg Message: 54195 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/12/2009
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            Did anyone actually ever buy any of these or any other Apes stuff from one of these types of adverts in the comics and magazines?
             
            Neil T. Foster
             
            -----Original Message-----
            From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
            Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 9:24 PM
            To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
            Subject: [PotaDG] Glossy Photo?!?!?

            Hey!!!

            This says each belt comes with a free glossy photo!!!

            Any ideas?

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            Group: potadg Message: 54196 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/12/2009
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              One minor little thing, why does it have Landon's name before Taylor's? Wouldn't it make more sense to have the skipper's name first?
               
              Neil T. Foster
               
              -----Original Message-----
              From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
              Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 8:48 AM
              To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
              Subject: RE: [PotaDG] New Tee shirt

              I quite like that as a design, even if it does use that damn Icarus name for the spaceship again.
               
              Neil T. Foster
               
              -----Original Message-----
              From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of John B Kirtley
              Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 7:13 AM
              To: PotaDG
              Subject: [PotaDG] New Tee shirt

              Play slideshow Play slideshow Save all photos Save all photos Want to save all these photos at once? Learn how
              Online pictures are available for 30 days
               
              Found this at www.nerdoh.co. uk  its £19.00 and very cool.
               

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              Group: potadg Message: 54197 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/12/2009
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                That’s cool – except it ain’t no ICARUS! J

                 


                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of John B Kirtley
                Sent: Saturday, 13 June 2009 7:13 AM
                To: PotaDG
                Subject: [PotaDG] New Tee shirt

                 




                Play slideshow

                Play slideshow

                 

                Save all photos

                Save all photos

                Want to save all these photos at once? Learn how

                Online pictures are available for 30 days

                 

                Found this at www.nerdoh.co. uk  its £19.00 and very cool.

                 

                 
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                Group: potadg Message: 54198 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/12/2009
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                Unlikely!

                 

                They recycled or sold the costumes as is obvious by the amount of them in circulation.

                 

                Michael

                 


                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
                Sent: Saturday, 13 June 2009 8:40 AM
                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: 20th Century Fox prop auction

                 




                Would they still have any Apes stuff left after all these years?

                 

                Neil T. Foster

                 

                -----Original Message-----
                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
                Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:17 PM
                To: pota@yahoogroups. com; PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                Subject: [PotaDG] OT: 20th Century Fox prop auction

                 

                 20th Century Props, which bought out Fox's prop department in 1994, is closing up and having a big auction in July. Would I Ju-lie to you? No mention of POTA but they'll probably have $omething.

                 

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                Group: potadg Message: 54199 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/12/2009
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                Yeah – like that post Peter Sellers Pink Panther was interesting.

                 

                Bloody rubbish!

                 

                Michael

                 


                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
                Sent: Saturday, 13 June 2009 8:42 AM
                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: RE: [PotaDG] New Heston movie in 2009?

                 




                Well that will be interesting to see, a bit weird but interesting.

                 

                Neil T. Foster

                 

                -----Original Message-----
                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
                Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:21 PM
                To: pota@yahoogroups. com; PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                Subject: [PotaDG] New Heston movie in 2009?

                 Talk about a comeback. Maybe there was something to all those religious epics he did. Actually, the divine intervention is the folks who shot the movie "Genghis Khan" with Charlton Heston in 1992 and then ran out of money. Now they're looking to finish the movie and release it. Doesn't sound like the recipe for a quality film but if it's any good it'll be one last "new" performance in a movie theater with Chuck. The late Pat Morita is also in it.

                 

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                Group: potadg Message: 54200 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/12/2009
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                He’s not quite dead yet!

                 


                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
                Sent: Saturday, 13 June 2009 8:42 AM
                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: New Heston movie in 2009?

                 




                "I feel better"

                 

                Neil T. Foster

                 

                -----Original Message-----
                From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Michael Whitty
                Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:36 PM
                To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                Subject: [PotaDG] Re: New Heston movie in 2009?

                Reminds me of Monty Python:

                "Bring out your dead!" :)

                Michael
                --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Jeff K." <veetus@...> wrote:
                >
                > Talk about a comeback. Maybe there was something to all those religious epics he did. Actually, the divine intervention is the folks who shot the movie "Genghis Khan" with Charlton Heston in 1992 and then ran out of money. Now they're looking to finish the movie and release it. Doesn't sound like the recipe for a quality film but if it's any good it'll be one last "new" performance in a movie theater with Chuck. The late Pat Morita is also in it.
                >
                > http://marhew. tripod.com/ hestfest/ id8.html"
                >

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                Group: potadg Message: 54201 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/12/2009
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                  I didn’t – at the time it was damn near impossible to but US items if you were outside the USA.

                   


                  From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
                  Sent: Saturday, 13 June 2009 8:44 AM
                  To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Glossy Photo?!?!?

                   




                  Did anyone actually ever buy any of these or any other Apes stuff from one of these types of adverts in the comics and magazines?

                   

                  Neil T. Foster

                   

                  -----Original Message-----
                  From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
                  Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 9:24 PM
                  To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                  Subject: [PotaDG] Glossy Photo?!?!?

                  Hey!!!

                  This says each belt comes with a free glossy photo!!!

                  Any ideas?

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                  Group: potadg Message: 54202 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/12/2009
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                  That's what I thought as well, after all this time what else could they still have, very likely not much at all.
                   
                  Neil T. Foster
                   
                  -----Original Message-----
                  From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
                  Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 9:03 AM
                  To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: 20th Century Fox prop auction

                  Unlikely!

                  They recycled or sold the costumes as is obvious by the amount of them in circulation.

                  Michael


                  From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
                  Sent: Saturday, 13 June 2009 8:40 AM
                  To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                  Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: 20th Century Fox prop auction




                  Would they still have any Apes stuff left after all these years?

                  Neil T. Foster

                  -----Original Message-----
                  From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
                  Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:17 PM
                  To: pota@yahoogroups. com; PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                  Subject: [PotaDG] OT: 20th Century Fox prop auction

                   20th Century Props, which bought out Fox's prop department in 1994, is closing up and having a big auction in July. Would I Ju-lie to you? No mention of POTA but they'll probably have $omething.

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                  Yeah the same for England at the time. Surely some of our American members must have brought stuff from those ads though?
                   
                  Neil T. Foster
                   
                  -----Original Message-----
                  From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
                  Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 9:05 AM
                  To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Glossy Photo?!?!?

                  I didn’t – at the time it was damn near impossible to but US items if you were outside the USA.


                  From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
                  Sent: Saturday, 13 June 2009 8:44 AM
                  To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                  Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Glossy Photo?!?!?




                  Did anyone actually ever buy any of these or any other Apes stuff from one of these types of adverts in the comics and magazines?

                  .

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                  Group: potadg Message: 54204 From: John Date: 6/12/2009
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                  I bought an Addar Dr. Zaius model (which I still have with box), the life-sized poseable Galen wall hanging (which I have mint unopened but not the same one from my childhood), Planet & Beneath 8 mm films (which I have a full set of plus the 2 from my childhood) & I'm pretty sure there were some other Apes goodies that I ordered all from the ads in various Famous Monsters of Filmland with the help of my Dad.

                  -- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > Did anyone actually ever buy any of these or any other Apes stuff from
                  > one of these types of adverts in the comics and magazines?
                  >
                  > Neil T. Foster
                  >
                  >
                  > -----Original Message-----
                  > From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf
                  > Of Michael & Sally Whitty
                  > Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 9:24 PM
                  > To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                  > Subject: [PotaDG] Glossy Photo?!?!?
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > Hey!!!
                  >
                  > This says each belt comes with a free glossy photo!!!
                  >
                  > Any ideas?
                  >
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                  Group: potadg Message: 54205 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/12/2009
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                  Well maybe an original full size Lawgiver statue?

                  But can anyone think of anything else worth having that’s out there?

                  Michael

                   


                  From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
                  Sent: Saturday, 13 June 2009 9:35 AM
                  To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: 20th Century Fox prop auction

                   




                  That's what I thought as well, after all this time what else could they still have, very likely not much at all.

                   

                  Neil T. Foster

                   

                  -----Original Message-----
                  From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
                  Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 9:03 AM
                  To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                  Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: 20th Century Fox prop auction

                  Unlikely!

                  They recycled or sold the costumes as is obvious by the amount of them in circulation.

                  Michael


                  From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
                  Sent: Saturday, 13 June 2009 8:40 AM
                  To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                  Subject: RE: [PotaDG] OT: 20th Century Fox prop auction





                  Would they still have any Apes stuff left after all these years?

                  Neil T. Foster

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                  From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Jeff K.
                  Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 12:17 PM
                  To: pota@yahoogroups. com; PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                  Subject: [PotaDG] OT: 20th Century Fox prop auction

                   20th Century Props, which bought out Fox's prop department in 1994, is closing up and having a big auction in July. Would I Ju-lie to you? No mention of POTA but they'll probably have $omething.

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                  Group: potadg Message: 54206 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/12/2009
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                  I've wondered about those as well but never heard anything from them...
                  I just got a rare "Virgil" buckle the other day!


                  From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
                  To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                  Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 7:24:15 AM
                  Subject: [PotaDG] Glossy Photo?!?!?

                  Hey!!!

                  This says each belt comes with a free glossy photo!!!

                  Any ideas?


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                  Never bought anything from the ads...wish I did though! would have been a hell of a lot cheaper~!


                  From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@...>
                  To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                  Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 7:33:25 PM
                  Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Glossy Photo?!?!?

                  Yeah the same for England at the time. Surely some of our American members must have brought stuff from those ads though?
                   
                  Neil T. Foster
                   
                  -----Original Message-----
                  From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
                  Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 9:05 AM
                  To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                  Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Glossy Photo?!?!?

                  I didn't – at the time it was damn near impossible to but US items if you were outside the USA.


                  From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
                  Sent: Saturday, 13 June 2009 8:44 AM
                  To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                  Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Glossy Photo?!?!?




                  Did anyone actually ever buy any of these or any other Apes stuff from one of these types of adverts in the comics and magazines?

                  .


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                  Group: potadg Message: 54208 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/12/2009
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                  AGREED!  J

                   


                  From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
                  Sent: Saturday, 13 June 2009 1:35 PM
                  To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                  Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Glossy Photo?!?!?

                   




                  Never bought anything from the ads...wish I did though! would have been a hell of a lot cheaper~!

                   


                  From: Neil Foster <ntfoster@bigpond. com>
                  To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                  Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 7:33:25 PM
                  Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Glossy Photo?!?!?

                  Yeah the same for England at the time. Surely some of our American members must have brought stuff from those ads though?

                   

                  Neil T. Foster

                   

                  -----Original Message-----
                  From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
                  Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 9:05 AM
                  To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                  Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Glossy Photo?!?!?

                  I didn’t – at the time it was damn near impossible to but US items if you were outside the USA .


                  From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
                  Sent: Saturday, 13 June 2009 8:44 AM
                  To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                  Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Glossy Photo?!?!?



                  Did anyone actually ever buy any of these or any other Apes stuff from one of these types of adverts in the comics and magazines?

                  .

                   

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                  Group: potadg Message: 54209 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/12/2009
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                    Isn’t that Alexander?

                     


                    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
                    Sent: Saturday, 13 June 2009 1:30 PM
                    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Glossy Photo?!?!? [1 Attachment]

                     

                    [Attachment(s) from Tim "apefan" included below]


                    I've wondered about those as well but never heard anything from them...
                    I just got a rare "Virgil" buckle the other day!

                     


                    From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@ bigpond.com>
                    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                    Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 7:24:15 AM
                    Subject: [PotaDG] Glossy Photo?!?!?

                    Hey!!!

                    This says each belt comes with a free glossy photo!!!

                    Any ideas?

                     

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                    Group: potadg Message: 54210 From: Tim "apefan" Date: 6/13/2009
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                    No this is alexander


                    From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@...>
                    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                    Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 12:09:17 AM
                    Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Glossy Photo?!?!?

                    Isn't that Alexander?

                     


                    From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
                    Sent: Saturday, 13 June 2009 1:30 PM
                    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                    Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Glossy Photo?!?!? [1 Attachment]

                     

                    [Attachment(s) from Tim "apefan" included below]


                    I've wondered about those as well but never heard anything from them...
                    I just got a rare "Virgil" buckle the other day!

                     


                    From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@ bigpond.com>
                    To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                    Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 7:24:15 AM
                    Subject: [PotaDG] Glossy Photo?!?!?

                    Hey!!!

                    This says each belt comes with a free glossy photo!!!

                    Any ideas?

                     


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                      Neil, buddy, could you please do a SIDE BY SIDE of Alexander and Virgil?!?!?!

                       


                      From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
                      Sent: Saturday, 13 June 2009 10:13 PM
                      To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                      Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Glossy Photo?!?!? [1 Attachment]

                       

                      [Attachment(s) from Tim "apefan" included below]


                      No this is alexander

                       


                      From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@ bigpond.com>
                      To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                      Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 12:09:17 AM
                      Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Glossy Photo?!?!?

                      Isn’t that Alexander?

                       


                      From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
                      Sent: Saturday, 13 June 2009 1:30 PM
                      To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                      Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Glossy Photo?!?!? [1 Attachment]

                       

                      [ Attachment(s) from Tim "apefan" included below]

                      I've wondered about those as well but never heard anything from them...
                      I just got a rare "Virgil" buckle the other day!

                       


                      From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@ bigpond.com>
                      To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                      Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 7:24:15 AM
                      Subject: [PotaDG] Glossy Photo?!?!?

                      Hey!!!

                      This says each belt comes with a free glossy photo!!!

                      Any ideas?

                       

                       

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                      Group: potadg Message: 54212 From: patrickmichaeltilton Date: 6/13/2009
                      Subject: Re: Can you think of any goofs in the first POTA film or any cheesy
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                      For a laugh? Sure. But what is it about the 3 Monkeys motif that makes it funny? In the context of the scene, Maximus, the President of the Academy, and Zaius -- "appearing for the State" -- do the Three Wise Monkeys routine when Zira and Cornelius are stating their case, which happens to be considered Heresy. That is, EVIL. The orangutans are refusing to HEAR, to SEE, and to SPEAK any evil... refusing to allow the "evil" testimony of the two chimpanzees to make them "unclean" (in a religious sense), I gather.

                      The ultimate reason for this moment in the film is only revealed at the end of the movie, in that this film has all along been a cautionary tale about NUCLEAR WEAPONS and their misuse by the human race.

                      Unlike Boulle's novel, the film has the ape world being our planet Earth, and the prehistoric advanced culture that preceded the ape society had been wiped out through Nuclear War.

                      The nuclear genie was brought out of the bottle due to the Manhattan Project. It was at Oak Ridge, Tennessee, where that huge facility just happened to have a big sign for all those government workers to see, to remind them that their work was Top Secret: a sign depicting the 3 Wise Monkeys and that admonition to maintain security:

                      WHAT YOU SEE HERE
                      WHAT YOU DO HERE
                      WHAT YOU HEAR HERE
                      WHEN YOU LEAVE HERE
                      LET IT STAY HERE.

                      Did Serling or Wilson know about that use of the 3 Wise Monkeys image for the Manhattan Project? I don't know. But it wouldn't surprise me if SOMEbody on-set did. The film hit theaters 23 years after the first use of the Atomic Bomb, and -- as I said before -- the movie ended up being an anti-Nuke cautionary tale. The big surprise at the end of the movie isn't just that Taylor's been back on Earth the whole time... it's that the civilization he left behind had destroyed itself with nuclear weapons.

                      "You BLEW IT UP!!! Oh, DAMN YOU! GodDAMN you all to HELL!!!"

                      As I recall, the decision to shoot that scene, showing the 3 orangutans doing the 3 Wise Monkeys bit, was a spur-of-the-moment thing. Some felt it was "too much" whereas others thought it wasn't too over-the-top. Yes, it's a "funny" image. But the image is more than merely funny -- it MEANS something. That meaning has varied some since it was first introduced back in the 8th Century (according to what Wikipedia page). One modern "take" on it might be an admonition for somebody in the evangelical community not to speak "dirty" words, not to look at pornography, and to plug you ears whenever you hear somebody else say something "dirty"... that sort of thing.

                      Like the brouhaha over Letterman's joke about Sarah Palin's daughter getting knocked up by Alex Rodriguez.

                      When I saw that documentary about the Oak Ridge facility that was a major part of the Manhattan Project, and saw that they had used the Three Wise Monkeys for the purposes of state censorship and National Security, well, being a POTA fan it made me sit up and take notice!

                      PLANET was, ultimately, a film that was trying to sound a warning regarding the very real potentiality that we just might nuke our own civilization to oblivion if we didn't become "a better breed" (as Taylor had hoped Mankind would evolve into).

                      One last thing.

                      According to the Wikipedia article, the names of the Three Wise Monkeys are (1) MIZARU, covering his eyes, (2) KIKAZARU, covering his ears, and (3) IWAZARU, covering his mouth.

                      One of the interpretations of the 3 Wise Monkeys is said to be describing "someone who doesn't want to be involved in a situation, or someone willfully turning a blind eye to the immorality of an act in which they are involved"... which certainly sounds a bit like Zaius, doesn't it? He does what he does "with no pleasure" (when he has Cornelius silenced).

                      Remember how, in Boulle's novel (chapter 15), Ulysse Merou says that "all the underlings who addressed him [Zaius] began with these two words [i.e. "Mi Zaius."]? He tells the readers of his manuscript, "Zaius, I subsequently learned, was the pontiff's name, "mi" an honorific title."

                      If we take the names of the Three Wise Monkeys and remove the common suffix-part ["-ZARU"] which is a word-play on "saru" (which means "monkey"), we are left with the "prefix" portions of their names: "MI-", "KIKA-", and "IWA-". Since the word "mizaru" literally means "don't see" or "see not", and "zaru" is the "archaic negative verb conjugation" [i.e. "don't"], then "Mi-" must mean "see".

                      I wonder if Boulle was thinking of "Mizaru" the "See not!" [or, "See no evil!"] monkey, when he decided to invent that "honorific title" that the other apes use when referring to Zaius: "Mi Zaius." I wonder if "Mi Zaius" was meant to sound almost like "Mizaru"... the name "Zaius" being not-too-dissimilar to "Zaru". Hmmm...

                      It reminds me of what Zira said about Orangutans in ESCAPE, calling them "blinkered, pseudoscientific geese". Blinkered means having one's vision purposely obstructed. "Mizaru!" indeed...

                      Patrick
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                      Serious as a friggin' heart attack! Wow! You had one creepy 4th grade teacher, Mikey, by Crikey!

                      Patrick
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                      Group: potadg Message: 54214 From: PofTAfan@aol.com Date: 6/13/2009
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                      Here's one, but the scene is in Escape , Where Lewis is talking to Dr. Branton and she is standing next to a assignment board
                      and one of the assignments is X-Ray which is assigned to a......Dr. Ray.

                      kevin


                      -----Original Message-----
                      From: patrickmichaeltilton <patrickmichaeltilton@...>
                      To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                      Sent: Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:49 am
                      Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Can you think of any goofs in the first POTA film or any cheesy ...



                      Serious as a friggin' heart attack! Wow! You had one creepy 4th grade teacher, Mikey, by Crikey!

                      Patrick
                      ____________ _________ _________ _________ ______

                      --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Michael & Sally Whitty" <sallywhitty@ ...> wrote:
                      >
                      > Crikey!
                      >
                      > Strangely enough my 4th grade teacher had a similar motto:
                      >
                      > "What is born in the classroom
                      > Lives in the classroom
                      > Dies in the classroom
                      > And is buried in the classroom
                      > OR I WILL BURY YOU!"
                      >
                      > Serious
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      > Michael

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                        Why? The Alexander pictured is a chimp so what has it got to do with Virgil?
                         
                        Neil T. Foster
                         
                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
                        Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 10:35 PM
                        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                        Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Glossy Photo?!?!?

                        Neil, buddy, could you please do a SIDE BY SIDE of Alexander and Virgil?!?!?!


                        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
                        Sent: Saturday, 13 June 2009 10:13 PM
                        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                        Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Glossy Photo?!?!? [1 Attachment]

                        [Attachment(s) from Tim "apefan" included below]


                        No this is alexander


                        From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@ bigpond.com>
                        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                        Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 12:09:17 AM
                        Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Glossy Photo?!?!?

                        Isn’t that Alexander?


                        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
                        Sent: Saturday, 13 June 2009 1:30 PM
                        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                        Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Glossy Photo?!?!? [1 Attachment]

                        [Attachment(s) from Tim "apefan" included below]

                        I've wondered about those as well but never heard anything from them...
                        I just got a rare "Virgil" buckle the other day!


                        From: Michael & Sally Whitty <sallywhitty@ bigpond.com>
                        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
                        Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 7:24:15 AM
                        Subject: [PotaDG] Glossy Photo?!?!?

                        Hey!!!

                        This says each belt comes with a free glossy photo!!!

                        Any ideas?

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                        Group: potadg Message: 54216 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/13/2009
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                        Patrick I really think you try to read too much into these things, It was just a sci-fi movie.
                         
                        Neil T. Foster
                         
                        -----Original Message-----
                        From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of patrickmichaeltilton
                        Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 1:46 AM
                        To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
                        Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Can you think of any goofs in the first POTA film or any cheesy ...

                        For a laugh? Sure. But what is it about the 3 Monkeys motif that makes it funny? In the context of the scene, Maximus, the President of the Academy, and Zaius -- "appearing for the State" -- do the Three Wise Monkeys routine when Zira and Cornelius are stating their case, which happens to be considered Heresy. That is, EVIL. The orangutans are refusing to HEAR, to SEE, and to SPEAK any evil... refusing to allow the "evil" testimony of the two chimpanzees to make them "unclean" (in a religious sense), I gather.

                        The ultimate reason for this moment in the film is only revealed at the end of the movie, in that this film has all along been a cautionary tale about NUCLEAR WEAPONS and their misuse by the human race.

                        Unlike Boulle's novel, the film has the ape world being our planet Earth, and the prehistoric advanced culture that preceded the ape society had been wiped out through Nuclear War.

                        The nuclear genie was brought out of the bottle due to the Manhattan Project. It was at Oak Ridge, Tennessee, where that huge facility just happened to have a big sign for all those government workers to see, to remind them that their work was Top Secret: a sign depicting the 3 Wise Monkeys and that admonition to maintain security:

                        WHAT YOU SEE HERE
                        WHAT YOU DO HERE
                        WHAT YOU HEAR HERE
                        WHEN YOU LEAVE HERE
                        LET IT STAY HERE.

                        Did Serling or Wilson know about that use of the 3 Wise Monkeys image for the Manhattan Project? I don't know. But it wouldn't surprise me if SOMEbody on-set did. The film hit theaters 23 years after the first use of the Atomic Bomb, and -- as I said before -- the movie ended up being an anti-Nuke cautionary tale. The big surprise at the end of the movie isn't just that Taylor's been back on Earth the whole time... it's that the civilization he left behind had destroyed itself with nuclear weapons.

                        "You BLEW IT UP!!! Oh, DAMN YOU! GodDAMN you all to HELL!!!"

                        As I recall, the decision to shoot that scene, showing the 3 orangutans doing the 3 Wise Monkeys bit, was a spur-of-the- moment thing. Some felt it was "too much" whereas others thought it wasn't too over-the-top. Yes, it's a "funny" image. But the image is more than merely funny -- it MEANS something. That meaning has varied some since it was first introduced back in the 8th Century (according to what Wikipedia page). One modern "take" on it might be an admonition for somebody in the evangelical community not to speak "dirty" words, not to look at pornography, and to plug you ears whenever you hear somebody else say something "dirty"... that sort of thing.

                        Like the brouhaha over Letterman's joke about Sarah Palin's daughter getting knocked up by Alex Rodriguez.

                        When I saw that documentary about the Oak Ridge facility that was a major part of the Manhattan Project, and saw that they had used the Three Wise Monkeys for the purposes of state censorship and National Security, well, being a POTA fan it made me sit up and take notice!

                        PLANET was, ultimately, a film that was trying to sound a warning regarding the very real potentiality that we just might nuke our own civilization to oblivion if we didn't become "a better breed" (as Taylor had hoped Mankind would evolve into).

                        One last thing.

                        According to the Wikipedia article, the names of the Three Wise Monkeys are (1) MIZARU, covering his eyes, (2) KIKAZARU, covering his ears, and (3) IWAZARU, covering his mouth.

                        One of the interpretations of the 3 Wise Monkeys is said to be describing "someone who doesn't want to be involved in a situation, or someone willfully turning a blind eye to the immorality of an act in which they are involved"... which certainly sounds a bit like Zaius, doesn't it? He does what he does "with no pleasure" (when he has Cornelius silenced).

                        Remember how, in Boulle's novel (chapter 15), Ulysse Merou says that "all the underlings who addressed him [Zaius] began with these two words [i.e. "Mi Zaius."]? He tells the readers of his manuscript, "Zaius, I subsequently learned, was the pontiff's name, "mi" an honorific title."

                        If we take the names of the Three Wise Monkeys and remove the common suffix-part ["-ZARU"] which is a word-play on "saru" (which means "monkey"), we are left with the "prefix" portions of their names: "MI-", "KIKA-", and "IWA-". Since the word "mizaru" literally means "don't see" or "see not", and "zaru" is the "archaic negative verb conjugation" [i.e. "don't"], then "Mi-" must mean "see".

                        I wonder if Boulle was thinking of "Mizaru" the "See not!" [or, "See no evil!"] monkey, when he decided to invent that "honorific title" that the other apes use when referring to Zaius: "Mi Zaius." I wonder if "Mi Zaius" was meant to sound almost like "Mizaru"... the name "Zaius" being not-too-dissimilar to "Zaru". Hmmm...

                        It reminds me of what Zira said about Orangutans in ESCAPE, calling them "blinkered, pseudoscientific geese". Blinkered means having one's vision purposely obstructed. "Mizaru!" indeed...

                        Patrick
                        ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________

                        --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Neil" <ntfoster@.. .> wrote:
                        >
                        > I think that's a bit of a stretch Patrick. I thought Heston or someone said they put the 3 monkeys in there for a laugh?
                        >
                        > Neil T. Foster
                        >
                        >
                        > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "patrickmichaeltilt on" <patrickmichaeltilt on@> wrote:
                        > >
                        > > The "See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil" bit... you all might find this interesting.
                        > >> Looking at the "tribunal" scene of PLANET again, it is no wonder then that the 3 orangutans mimic that famous motif... since they do so in answer to Zira's testimony regarding the Truth about how there is no physiological reason for humans being mute... how there is no flaw in the anatomy, but is in the human brain... and then how Cornelius exhorts them to "Behold! This marvel... this living paradox!" (etc)
                        > >
                        > > The whole purpose of the Tribunal was to "expose Zira and Cornelius" so as to prevent further public humiliation of the Ruling Class which has already suffered from having a Talking Human being heard publicly doing something that Orthodoxy insists is impossible. The Tribunal was not open-to-the- public, like the kind of trial guaranteed to U.S. citizens by their Constitution [i.e. a speedy and PUBLIC trial]. Zira and Cornelius may have their "friends and simian sponsors" -- yet those friends were not present at the Tribunal, to lend their moral support.
                        > >
                        > > The "See/Hear/Speak No Evil" motif represents Secrecy for reasons of State: CENSORSHIP during a time of "public danger". By making that tableau happen, the 3 orangutans were saying, in effect, that the outcome of this Tribunal would be kept "in chambers" -- the Public being prevented from knowing what had transpired.
                        > >
                        > > The President of the Academy probably should have not only had Zira and Cornelius arrested, but also HELD WITHOUT BAIL. They evidently figured that, once out on bail, they would meekly acquiesce to their sorry situation, and prepare their Defense case for their upcoming Heresy trial. They didn't count on them being so ballsy as to spring Taylor from his cage and skip town!
                        > >
                        > > Risking Apostasy and Treason... all for the sake of a, perhaps, "not-so-unique" Talking Human -- and the Truth.
                        >

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                        Group: potadg Message: 54217 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/13/2009
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                        I have no idea what this is about or who this Rodriguez bloke is, means nothing to me at all, sorry.
                         
                        Neil T. Foster
                         
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                        Group: potadg Message: 54218 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/13/2009
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                          I just want to compare actual pics of the 2 buckles and I can’t get one of them to show.

                           

                          Only if you have time Neil.

                           

                          Michael

                           


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                          Why? The Alexander pictured is a chimp so what has it got to do with Virgil?

                           

                          Neil T. Foster

                           

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                          Neil, buddy, could you please do a SIDE BY SIDE of Alexander and Virgil?!?!?!


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                          No this is alexander


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                          Isn’t that Alexander?

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                          I've wondered about those as well but never heard anything from them...
                          I just got a rare "Virgil" buckle the other day!

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                          Hey!!!

                          This says each belt comes with a free glossy photo!!!

                          Any ideas?

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                          Group: potadg Message: 54219 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/13/2009
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                          YAHOO! Seems to have chopped off what you are referring to again.

                           


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                          I have no idea what this is about or who this Rodriguez bloke is, means nothing to me at all, sorry.

                           

                          Neil T. Foster

                           

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                          Group: potadg Message: 54220 From: Neil Foster Date: 6/13/2009
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                          Once again bloody useless Yahoo has cut out the post I was replying to so this one made no sense, thank you Yahoo.
                          Anyway I was referring to this:
                          "Like the brouhaha over Letterman's joke about Sarah Palin's daughter getting knocked up by Alex Rodriguez."
                          No idea what you were talking about here, Patrick.
                           
                          Neil T. Foster
                           
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                          I have no idea what this is about or who this Rodriguez bloke is, means nothing to me at all, sorry.
                           
                          Neil T. Foster
                           
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                          Yeah me neither – American politics is my guess.

                           


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                          Once again bloody useless Yahoo has cut out the post I was replying to so this one made no sense, thank you Yahoo.

                          Anyway I was referring to this:

                          "Like the brouhaha over Letterman's joke about Sarah Palin's daughter getting knocked up by Alex Rodriguez."
                          No idea what you were talking about here, Patrick.

                           

                          Neil T. Foster

                           

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                          I have no idea what this is about or who this Rodriguez bloke is, means nothing to me at all, sorry.

                           

                          Neil T. Foster

                           

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                          Group: potadg Message: 54222 From: Michael & Sally Whitty Date: 6/13/2009
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                          Patrick,

                           

                          You got my post and read the link that explains what the 3 wise monkeys are all about (ie nothing to do with what you are claiming)?

                           

                          I actually guessed you would put that aside and continue along the wrong path with this but I was actually hoping to be wrong.

                           

                          Michael

                           


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                          For a laugh? Sure. But what is it about the 3 Monkeys motif that makes it funny? In the context of the scene, Maximus, the President of the Academy, and Zaius -- "appearing for the State" -- do the Three Wise Monkeys routine when Zira and Cornelius are stating their case, which happens to be considered Heresy. That is, EVIL. The orangutans are refusing to HEAR, to SEE, and to SPEAK any evil... refusing to allow the "evil" testimony of the two chimpanzees to make them "unclean" (in a religious sense), I gather.

                          The ultimate reason for this moment in the film is only revealed at the end of the movie, in that this film has all along been a cautionary tale about NUCLEAR WEAPONS and their misuse by the human race.

                          Unlike Boulle's novel, the film has the ape world being our planet Earth, and the prehistoric advanced culture that preceded the ape society had been wiped out through Nuclear War.

                          The nuclear genie was brought out of the bottle due to the Manhattan Project. It was at Oak Ridge , Tennessee , where that huge facility just happened to have a big sign for all those government workers to see, to remind them that their work was Top Secret: a sign depicting the 3 Wise Monkeys and that admonition to maintain security:

                          WHAT YOU SEE HERE
                          WHAT YOU DO HERE
                          WHAT YOU HEAR HERE
                          WHEN YOU LEAVE HERE
                          LET IT STAY HERE.

                          Did Serling or Wilson know about that use of the 3 Wise Monkeys image for the Manhattan Project? I don't know. But it wouldn't surprise me if SOMEbody on-set did. The film hit theaters 23 years after the first use of the Atomic Bomb, and -- as I said before -- the movie ended up being an anti-Nuke cautionary tale. The big surprise at the end of the movie isn't just that Taylor's been back on Earth the whole time... it's that the civilization he left behind had destroyed itself with nuclear weapons.

                          "You BLEW IT UP!!! Oh, DAMN YOU! GodDAMN you all to HELL!!!"

                          As I recall, the decision to shoot that scene, showing the 3 orangutans doing the 3 Wise Monkeys bit, was a spur-of-the- moment thing. Some felt it was "too much" whereas others thought it wasn't too over-the-top. Yes, it's a "funny" image. But the image is more than merely funny -- it MEANS something. That meaning has varied some since it was first introduced back in the 8th Century (according to what Wikipedia page). One modern "take" on it might be an admonition for somebody in the evangelical community not to speak "dirty" words, not to look at pornography, and to plug you ears whenever you hear somebody else say something "dirty"... that sort of thing.

                          Like the brouhaha over Letterman's joke about Sarah Palin's daughter getting knocked up by Alex Rodriguez.

                          When I saw that documentary about the Oak Ridge facility that was a major part of the Manhattan Project, and saw that they had used the Three Wise Monkeys for the purposes of state censorship and National Security, well, being a POTA fan it made me sit up and take notice!

                          PLANET was, ultimately, a film that was trying to sound a warning regarding the very real potentiality that we just might nuke our own civilization to oblivion if we didn't become "a better breed" (as Taylor had hoped Mankind would evolve into).

                          One last thing.

                          According to the Wikipedia article, the names of the Three Wise Monkeys are (1) MIZARU, covering his eyes, (2) KIKAZARU, covering his ears, and (3) IWAZARU, covering his mouth.

                          One of the interpretations of the 3 Wise Monkeys is said to be describing "someone who doesn't want to be involved in a situation, or someone willfully turning a blind eye to the immorality of an act in which they are involved"... which certainly sounds a bit like Zaius, doesn't it? He does what he does "with no pleasure" (when he has Cornelius silenced).

                          Remember how, in Boulle's novel (chapter 15), Ulysse Merou says that "all the underlings who addressed him [Zaius] began with these two words [i.e. "Mi Zaius."]? He tells the readers of his manuscript, "Zaius, I subsequently learned, was the pontiff's name, "mi" an honorific title."

                          If we take the names of the Three Wise Monkeys and remove the common suffix-part ["-ZARU"] which is a word-play on "saru" (which means "monkey"), we are left with the "prefix" portions of their names: " MI- ", "KIKA-", and "IWA-". Since the word "mizaru" literally means "don't see" or "see not", and "zaru" is the "archaic negative verb conjugation" [i.e. "don't"], then "Mi-" must mean "see".

                          I wonder if Boulle was thinking of "Mizaru" the "See not!" [or, "See no evil!"] monkey, when he decided to invent that "honorific title" that the other apes use when referring to Zaius: "Mi Zaius." I wonder if "Mi Zaius" was meant to sound almost like "Mizaru"... the name "Zaius" being not-too-dissimilar to "Zaru". Hmmm...

                          It reminds me of what Zira said about Orangutans in ESCAPE, calling them "blinkered, pseudoscientific geese". Blinkered means having one's vision purposely obstructed. "Mizaru!" indeed...

                          Patrick
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                          --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "Neil" <ntfoster@.. .> wrote:

                          >
                          > I think that's a bit of a stretch Patrick. I thought Heston or someone
                          said they put the 3 monkeys in there for a laugh?
                          >
                          > Neil T. Foster
                          >
                          >
                          > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com,
                          "patrickmichaeltilt on" <patrickmichaeltilt on@> wrote:
                          > >
                          > > The "See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil" bit... you
                          all might find this interesting.
                          > >> Looking at the "tribunal" scene of PLANET again, it is
                          no wonder then that the 3 orangutans mimic that famous motif... since they do so in answer to Zira's testimony regarding the Truth about how there is no physiological reason for humans being mute... how there is no flaw in the anatomy, but is in the human brain... and then how Cornelius exhorts them to "Behold! This marvel... this living paradox!" (etc)
                          > >
                          > > The whole purpose of the Tribunal was to "expose Zira and
                          Cornelius" so as to prevent further public humiliation of the Ruling Class which has already suffered from having a Talking Human being heard publicly doing something that Orthodoxy insists is impossible. The Tribunal was not open-to-the- public, like the kind of trial guaranteed to U.S. citizens by their Constitution [i.e. a speedy and PUBLIC trial]. Zira and Cornelius may have their "friends and simian sponsors" -- yet those friends were not present at the Tribunal, to lend their moral support.
                          > >
                          > > The "See/Hear/Speak No Evil" motif represents Secrecy for
                          reasons of State: CENSORSHIP during a time of "public danger". By making that tableau happen, the 3 orangutans were saying, in effect, that the outcome of this Tribunal would be kept "in chambers" -- the Public being prevented from knowing what had transpired.
                          > >
                          > > The President of the Academy probably should have not only had Zira
                          and Cornelius arrested, but also HELD WITHOUT BAIL. They evidently figured that, once out on bail, they would meekly acquiesce to their sorry situation, and prepare their Defense case for their upcoming Heresy trial. They didn't count on them being so ballsy as to spring Taylor from his cage and skip town!
                          > >
                          > > Risking Apostasy and Treason... all for the sake of a, perhaps,
                          "not-so-unique" Talking Human -- and the Truth.
                          >

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                          Alex Rodriguez is a baseball player for the New York Yankees


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                          Yeah me neither – American politics is my guess.
                           

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                          Once again bloody useless Yahoo has cut out the post I was replying to so this one made no sense, thank you Yahoo.
                          Anyway I was referring to this:
                          "Like the brouhaha over Letterman's joke about Sarah Palin's daughter getting knocked up by Alex Rodriguez."
                          No idea what you were talking about here, Patrick.
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                          I have no idea what this is about or who this Rodriguez bloke is, means nothing to me at all, sorry.
                           
                          Neil T. Foster
                           
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                          OK thanks Kevin, but what’s the "…brouhaha over Letterman's joke about Sarah Palin's daughter getting knocked up by Alex Rodriguez."

                           


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                          Alex Rodriguez is a baseball player for the New York Yankees

                           

                           

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                          Yeah me neither – American politics is my guess.

                           


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                          Once again bloody useless Yahoo has cut out the post I was replying to so this one made no sense, thank you Yahoo.

                          Anyway I was referring to this:

                          "Like the brouhaha over Letterman's joke about Sarah Palin's daughter getting knocked up by Alex Rodriguez."
                          No idea what you were talking about here, Patrick./ font>

                           

                          Neil T. Foster

                           

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                          I have no idea what this is about or who this Rodriguez bloke is, means nothing to me at all, sorry.

                           

                          Neil T. Foster

                           

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                          It just Sarah having a hissy fit. Letterman apologize over the joke, and Sarah and her hubby just making political
                          points over it.


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                          OK thanks Kevin, but what's the "…brouhaha over Letterman's joke about Sarah Palin's daughter getting knocked up by Alex Rodriguez."
                           

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                          Alex Rodriguez is a baseball player for the New York Yankees
                           
                           
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                          Yeah me neither – American politics is my guess.
                           

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                          Once again bloody useless Yahoo has cut out the post I was replying to so this one made no sense, thank you Yahoo.
                          Anyway I was referring to this:
                          "Like the brouhaha over Letterman's joke about Sarah Palin's daughter getting knocked up by Alex Rodriguez."
                          No idea what you were talking about here, Patrick./ font>
                           
                          Neil T. Foster
                           
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                          I have no idea what this is about or who this Rodriguez bloke is, means nothing to me at all, sorry.
                           
                          Neil T. Foster
                           
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