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Did he just copy a picture from Lancelot Link & publish it in a novel?

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:46 PM
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Thank you for sharing these.  They were quite fantastic!

 

Jess.

On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 7:33 PM, John <DrZaiusDavis@ aol.com> wrote:

Did he just copy a picture from Lancelot Link & publish it in a novel?

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 6:46 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG

Not bad at all.

Jess – have you seen Neil’s MP illustrations?

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
Sent: Tuesday, 7 July 2009 1:46 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG

Thank you for sharing these.  They were quite fantastic!

Jess.

On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 7:33 PM, John < DrZaiusDavis@ aol.com> wrote:

Did he just copy a picture from Lancelot Link & publish it in a novel?

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 6:52 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

Sorta the same with me – I loved SW but I think I was still into POTA because that only stopped in 1981 (I was still a fan but entered the High School arena so money was for booze, pot and chicks!).

I went to an ultra modern school in 1979 and 1980 where I could do projects on apes and POTA….pretty cool.

Michael

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Friday, 3 July 2009 6:29 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

Funny about Star Wars. I guess I was mostly over POTA by the time it came out but I did wag school with a good mate to see it's first showing at a cinema in Manchester and remember being totally blown away by it. Then I went a bit Star Wars mental but it never ended up becoming 'another Planet of the Apes'. I eventually 'came back' to POTA but have never had any long running interest in Star Wars.

My kids though would take ANY Star Wars movie over any Apes one. It's a crazy old world!

Neil T. Foster

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@ yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@aol. com
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 3:18 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

I agree. let's declare war on the stormtroopers! !! Let us wipe out Star Wars!!!!

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: rassmguy <handleyr@optonline. net>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:08 am
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

I guess I'd better hide my complete Star Trek DVD and comic-book collection, then.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@ ...> wrote:
> I agree!!! Let's unite against the Trekkies! That oughta be lots of fun.
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ > wrote:
> >
> > What we need is a common enemy. That should unite all fronts. POTA fandom
> > needs to work together, now more than ever, as we dwindle in number.
> >
> > Jess.
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Michael W hitty <sallywhitty@ >wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > It will never happen Jess.
> > >
> > > Not with POTA.
> > >
> > > James is so scared of a challenge he hasn't even allowed my post to go
> > > through on his group.
> > >
> > > Some things never change.
> > >
> > > Sadly, for some people it is all about promoting THEMSELVES, and being able
> > > to make claims (like James says Battle was cut to get more showings in a
> > > given day) with no evidence and get away with it.
> > >
> > > Pathetic.
> > >
> > > That's why POTA fandom will always be slipping backwards.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com <PotaDG%40yahoogrou ps.com>, jessica rotich
> > > <jessicarotich@ > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That's what happens when there are so many alpha males and testosterone
> > > > gunning for each other...Each one wants to be top dog. Good idea to unite
> > > > all forces because after all, we are about world domination, right?
> > > >
> > > > XD
> > > >
>=2 0> > > Jess.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@ >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Good idea John
> > > > >
> > > > > Probably not a bad idea for fans to show some unity too.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's really embarrassing when I contact someone like Ty or the fellow
> > > who
> > > > > is doing the new "comic" (which he should have announced by now to be a
> > > > > Graphic Novel – here's an exclusive for your group James!), and they
> > > say
> > > > > other fans have warned them about me. It's just completely ridiculous,
> > > and
> > > > > very unprofessional. Makes us look like school kids.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think all the fanzines should promote each other equally, and promote
> > > the
> > > > > groups and other aspects of fandom (websites, publications etc) equally
> > > too.
> > > > >
> > > > > Would be a nice gesture if you and Dave rejoin the DG too John. I think
> > > the
> > > > > standards of SS have slipped,=2 0but that's just my humble opinion. But I
> > > still
> > > > > read Neil's copy and if I like it I'll but one. Nothing personal
> > > intended.
> > > > > And I should be able to state an opinion – as I'd welcome hearing
> > > feedback
> > > > > from you about the DG or the forthcoming fanzine.
> > > > >
> > > > > James – probably time for us to grow up and stop competing too. It's
> > > not
> > > > > healthy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups. com <pota%40yahoogroups .com> <pota%
> > > 40yahoogroups. com>, "shanter2002" <john@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Neil, how's about Scrolls, Chronicles and Forbidden Zine all devote a
> > > > > page advertising the other two, so that fanzinedom is aware of the
> > > strength
> > > > > of Ape fandom and that it's strong enough to have three fanzines
> > > batting for
> > > > > it? We can send cover scans and details to one another and see where
> > > that
> > > > > ta kes us? What do you think? John, Scrolls.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:30 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG

No, I've never seen his MP illustrations.  Where can I find them?

On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:46 AM, Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@dodo. com.au> wrote:

Not bad at all.

 

Jess – have you seen Neil’s MP illustrations?

 

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From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
Sent: Tuesday, 7 July 2009 1:46 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG

 

Thank you for sharing these.  They were quite fantastic!

 

Jess.

On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 7:33 PM, John <DrZaiusDavis@ aol.com> wrote:

 

Did he just copy a picture from Lancelot Link & publish it in a novel?

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TZer0@...
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 7:38 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] ANSA Video

 

Thought that audio's weak that was pretty good.

I don't remember Landon having a wife and child.

Did he?  Also he said Alpha Centauri.  Dodge mentions

Bellatrix. That's in the constellation Orion. Not Centaurus.

 

 

 

In a message dated 7/7/2009 12:55:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time, handleyr@optonline. net writes:

Hi, folks,

In case anyone hasn't seen the ANSA Public Service Announcement from the
Blu-Ray set, I've uploaded it to YouTube for everyone to view. I
don't know if
it'll be taken down, but here it is:

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=Sv9mZqb99Vw

Enjoy,
Rich

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim "apefan"
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:20 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] New file uploaded to PotaDG

love this one...(chimp holding skull)

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On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Neil Foster < ntfoster@...> wrote:

That reminds me of an assignment we had in English class at high school where we had to use clippings of photos from newspapers and magazines in a made up newspaper story. A good friend of mine cut up some of the Conquest photos (madness!) from the articles in the UK weekly comics and did a story about Apes taking over the town of Bury (where I lived). He actually got the highest mark in the class for it!

Neil T. Foster

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 6:52 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

Sorta the same with me – I loved SW but I think I was still into POTA because that only stopped in 1981 (I was still a fan but entered the High School arena so money was for booze, pot and chicks!).

I went to an ultra modern school in 1979 and 1980 where I could do projects on apes and POTA….pretty cool.

Michael

---

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Friday, 3 July 2009 6:29 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

Funny about Star Wars. I guess I was mostly over POTA by the time it came out but I did wag school with a good mate to see it's first showing at a cinema in Manchester and remember being totally blown away by it. Then I went a bit Star Wars mental but it never ended up becoming 'another Planet of the Apes'. I eventually 'came back' to POTA but have never had any long running interest in Star Wars.

My kids though would take ANY Star Wars movie over any Apes one. It's a crazy old world!

Neil T. Foster

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@...
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 3:18 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

I agree. let's declare war on the stormtroopers!!! Let us wipe out Star Wars!!!!

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: rassmguy <handleyr@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:08 am
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

I guess I'd better hide my complete Star Trek DVD and comic-book collection, then.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:
> I agree!!! Let's unite against the Trekkies! That oughta be lots of fun.
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@> wrote:
> >
> > What we need is a common enemy. That should unite all fronts. POTA fandom
> > needs to work together, now more than ever, as we dwindle in number.
> >
> > Jess.
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Michael W hitty <sallywhitty@>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > It will never happen Jess.
> > >
> > > Not with POTA.
> > >
> > > James is so scared of a challenge he hasn't even allowed my post to go
> > > through on his group.
> > >
> > > Some things never change.
> > >
> > > Sadly, for some people it is all about promoting THEMSELVES, and being able
> > > to make claims (like James says Battle was cut to get more showings in a
> > > given day) with no evidence and get away with it.
> > >
> > > Pathetic.
> > >
> > > That's why POTA fandom will always be slipping backwards.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com>, jessica rotich
> > > <jessicarotich@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That's what happens when there are so many alpha males and testosterone
> > > > gunning for each other...Each one wants to be top dog. Good idea to unite
> > > > all forces because after all, we are about world domination, right?
> > > >
> > > > XD
> > > >
>=2 0> > > Jess.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Good idea John
> > > > >
> > > > > Probably not a bad idea for fans to show some unity too.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's really embarrassing when I contact someone like Ty or the fellow
> > > who
> > > > > is doing the new "comic" (which he should have announced by now to be a
> > > > > Graphic Novel – here's an exclusive for your group James!), and they
> > > say
> > > > > other fans have warned them about me. It's just completely ridiculous,
> > > and
> > > > > very unprofessional. Makes us look like school kids.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think all the fanzines should promote each other equally, and promote
> > > the
> > > > > groups and other aspects of fandom (websites, publications etc) equally
> > > too.
> > > > >
> > > > > Would be a nice gesture if you and Dave rejoin the DG too John. I think
> > > the
> > > > > standards of SS have slipped,=2 0but that's just my humble opinion. But I
> > > still
> > > > > read Neil's copy and if I like it I'll but one. Nothing personal
> > > intended.
> > > > > And I should be able to state an opinion – as I'd welcome hearing
> > > feedback
> > > > > from you about the DG or the forthcoming fanzine.
> > > > >
> > > > > James – probably time for us to grow up and stop competing too. It's
> > > not
> > > > > healthy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com <pota%40yahoogroups.com> <pota%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com>, "shanter2002" <john@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Neil, how's about Scrolls, Chronicles and Forbidden Zine all devote a
> > > > > page advertising the other two, so that fanzinedom is aware of the
> > > strength
> > > > > of Ape fandom and that it's strong enough to have three fanzines
> > > batting for
> > > > > it? We can send cover scans and details to one another and see where
> > > that
> > > > > ta kes us? What do you think? John, Scrolls.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:26 AM
To: POTA; POTA DG
Subject: [PotaDG] more on Bubbles......and Pericles from Burton film!!!

Whatever happened to Michael Jackson's chimp Bubbles?

By Ben Montgomery, Times Staff Writer
In Print: Tuesday, July 7, 2009

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Bubbles, Michael Jackson’s former pet chimpanzee, lives at the Center for Great Apes in Wauchula. The 26-year-old chimp has been at the center since 2005, when his trainer retired.
	[Photo courtesy of Patti Ragan]

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<a href=" http://clk.atdmt. com/D2T/go/ 146858711/ direct/01/" target="_blank"><img src=" http://view. atdmt.com/ D2T/view/ 146858711/ direct/01/ "/></a><noscript><a href="http://clk.atdmt. com/D2T/go/ 146858711/ direct/01/" target="_blank"><img border="0" src=" http://view. atdmt.com/ D2T/view/ 146858711/ direct/01/" /></a></noscript> [AP] Michael Jackson is seen with Bubbles in an undated photo. To many, the chimpanzee served to humanize the man. Related Links Center for Great Apes Michael Jackson's Animal Kingdom slideshow (People Magazine) Artist Jeff Koons's sculpture "Michael Jackson and Bubbles" at San Francisco MOMA Related Multimedia Latest Michael Jackson videos

Bubbles the chimp won't be at Michael Jackson's funeral today.

He won't emerge from the Staples Center wings wearing tiny overalls or moonwalk through the hot lights or cheese chimp-like for the cameras.

In fact, Bubbles doesn't even know Michael Jackson is dead.

No one has told him, and there is good reason.

Bubbles lives 2,600 miles from Los Angeles, at the Center for Great Apes in Wauchula. He is 26 now and he makes his home most of the time in a giant enclosure surrounded by native ferns, banana trees, water oaks, hibiscus and Florida maples. He has access to more than 4,000 feet of elevated tunnels connecting geodesic domes and large enclosures. He paints and watches television and gives piggy-back rides to smaller chimps, and when a woman comes each Sunday to play soft music on a recorder, he seems to enjoy it. He digs peanut butter out of bamboo shoots and sucks on frozen hemp milk and munches on mangoes and sweet potatoes and grapes.

He is a chimpanzee again, and if you don't mind, his caretakers would like to keep it that way.

"Michael has a special relationship with Bubbles."

Animal trainer Bob Dunn, People, 1987

Bubbles met the world in March 1986, when a 14-year-old heart-transplant recipient named Donna Ashlock emerged from Michael Jackson's estate with a souvenir.

A photo.

Ashlock is on the right, beside her hero, awestruck. Michael's in the middle, the early Michael, the pretty Michael, the pre-allegations Michael. He has a soft smile and his left arm is stretched around the little girl's shoulder. In his right arm sits a fully dressed chimp, clinging to Jackson like a big hairy baby. This photo is important because here stood the World's Biggest Star, sweet and innocent, mostly unaltered, still... normal. And here he was holding a chimp, like a giant question mark.

The story spread that Bubbles had been rescued from a lab and sold to a trainer who gifted the animal to Jackson. Before long, Bubbles was accompanying Jackson to a pre-tour presser, drinking green tea with Japanese dignitaries, moonwalking for the media. In Japan, it was widely reported, Jackson had his hairy friend's hotel walls re-papered because Bubbles didn't like the smell of smoke. He went with Michael on a world tour and spent down time at Jackson's house.

And in every public appearance, as Jackson's eccentricities began to overshadow his musical accomplishments, we humanized Bubbles a little more.

"That's not so bizarre. It could be cocaine. Besides, I like the chimp, Bubbles. He's a funny little guy."

Quincy Jones, 1987

In 1989 came reports of Bubbles' untimely death: run over by a Jeep on Jackson's estate. (Not true.) A year later, the press speculated that Bubbles died when a fire tore through Jackson's Santa Barbara menagerie. ("Michael Jackson's pet chimp, Bubbles, is not dead," USA Today reported. "We repeat: Michael Jackson's pet chimp, Bubbles, is not dead.") The following year the Globe had Bubbles becoming a daddy and the papers reported he would be ring bearer at Elizabeth Taylor's eighth wedding. (Sounds true, but no.)

He soon became another check on the Wacko Jacko Inventory: kiddie sleepovers, Elephant Man bones, hyperbaric chamber, surgical mask. Bubbles.

"Whenever Bubbles sees himself in a magazine, he'll pick it up and kiss it."

Bob Dunn, People, 1987

Patti Ragan guides her golf cart toward Bubbles' enclosure. The other chimps are climbing and swinging and collecting leaves while 165-pound Bubbles approaches the edge, sits on his haunches and drapes a hot dog-size finger through the mesh.

He's magnificent, stoic, a little white hair bordering his face. As Ragan creeps along the edge of the enclosure, he stands and follows the cart, his marble-size eyes locked on his visitors.

"Morning, Bubbie," Ragan sings. "Are you following us?"

Though the center is closed to the public, Bubbles likes people, Ragan says. Bubbles has lived here since 2005, when he was quietly transferred from California. That was the same year Jackson was tried on sexual-abuse charges, but by then Bubbles had been living with trainer Bob Dunn for several years.

Until now, his life here has been uneventful, save the rare snake that makes it into the preserve. The phone here has been ringing like crazy. All the reporters ask the same thing: Does Bubbles know?

Ragan wants to be friendly, but not at the risk of upsetting the animals or exploiting Bubbles' celebrity for profit, even if the annual operating budget of this preserve is $900,000 and we're in the worst recession since the Great Depression.

To understand that, you must know that Ragan gave up her Miami business and her Mercedes and her weekly manicures to care for chimps, and once in a while, after the staff of 15 has gone home, Ragan slips out and sits with the animals. Just her and the mosquitoes and 28 chimps and 14 orangutans. Entertainment outcasts and roadside-zoo refugees and circus trash.

Bam Bam, who played an orangutan nurse in the Passions soap. Kodua, who copied her rear in that CareerBuilder ad. Jonah, from the Planet of the Apes remake. Mowgli, from the Dennis Miller Show. Many of them helped folks make big money until they grew too big to work. "You wonder if they ever think, 'I wonder whatever happened to those old stars?' " Ragan says.

"My chimp Bubbles is a constant delight.''

Michael Jackson, in Moonwalk, 1988

Though many reporters have called, Ragan has agreed to let three into the preserve. She does not want TV trucks lining the dirt road that leads to the unmarked compound. She even turned away a pushy reporter who showed up at the gate.

If you think that's silly, consider this: CNN's Anderson Cooper was invited into the preserve last week and his crew filmed Bubbles in his enclosure. Up popped freebubbles. org, with a CNN screen-shot of Bubbles with the message: MICHAEL JACKSON'S CHIMPANZEE IS IN MONKEY JAIL, Y'ALL! WE NEED TO GET HIM OUT!!

Ragan has become Bubbles' publicist, knocking down rumors that he committed suicide or is cryogenically frozen. She appreciates the spike in the center's Web traffic that has resulted in a few donations, but she must protect her big boy from the prying and exploitative world outside. That's why it feels so odd asking the question: Does Bubbles know?

Ragan obliges.

Chimps can understand English, she explains. Some even sign. When Ragan approaches a young female, Noel, and asks her what she had for breakfast, the chimp signs "banana" and "apple." And they do mourn their dead comrades.

"But the concept of saying to him, 'He's gone. He's dead.' They just don't know that word. So there's no point in saying that to him," she says. "We join the world in being sad and mourning the death of Michael Jackson. We all enjoyed his music. ... What we can do is give Bubbles the best long-term future we can."

Good health. Space. Enrichment.

Protection.

She sometimes shows the apes videos from their pasts. Sammy the orangutan has watched himself in Dunston Checks In, and he seemed to be interested.

Ragan has not shown Bubbles the clips of himself moonwalking or wearing tailored clothes or making goofy lips at the cameras.

She thinks she will, someday, but she won't tell a soul.

Ben Montgomery can be reached at 727-893-8650 or bmontgomery@ sptimes.com.

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:33 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

So cool.  I would have given him the highest marks, too.

I know someone who lives in Bury!!

Jess.

On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@bigpond. com> wrote:

That reminds me of an assignment we had in English class at high school where we had to use clippings of photos from newspapers and magazines in a made up newspaper story. A good friend of mine cut up some of the Conquest photos (madness!) from the articles in the UK weekly comics and did a story about Apes taking over the town of Bury (where I lived). He actually got the highest mark in the class for it!

 

Neil T. Foster

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 6:52 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

Sorta the same with me – I loved SW but I think I was still into POTA because that only stopped in 1981 (I was still a fan but entered the High School arena so money was for booze, pot and chicks!).

I went to an ultra modern school in 1979 and 1980 where I could do projects on apes and POTA….pretty cool.

Michael

---

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Friday, 3 July 2009 6:29 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

Funny about Star Wars. I guess I was mostly over POTA by the time it came out but I did wag school with a good mate to see it's first showing at a cinema in Manchester and remember being totally blown away by it. Then I went a bit Star Wars mental but it never ended up becoming 'another Planet of the Apes'. I eventually 'came back' to POTA but have never had any long running interest in Star Wars.

My kids though would take ANY Star Wars movie over any Apes one. It's a crazy old world!

Neil T. Foster

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@aol. com
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 3:18 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

I agree. let's declare war on the stormtroopers! !! Let us wipe out Star Wars!!!!

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: rassmguy <handleyr@optonline. net>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:08 am
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

I guess I'd better hide my complete Star Trek DVD and comic-book collection, then.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@ ...> wrote:
> I agree!!! Let's unite against the Trekkies! That oughta be lots of fun.
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@> wrote:
> >
> > What we need is a common enemy. That should unite all fronts. POTA fandom
> > needs to work together, now more than ever, as we dwindle in number.
> >
> > Jess.
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Michael W hitty <sallywhitty@>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > It will never happen Jess.
> > >
> > > Not with POTA.
> > >
> > > James is so scared of a challenge he hasn't even allowed my post to go
> > > through on his group.
> > >
> > > Some things never change.
> > >
> > > Sadly, for some people it is all about promoting THEMSELVES, and being able
> > > to make claims (like James says Battle was cut to get more showings in a
> > > given day) with no evidence and get away with it.
> > >
> > > Pathetic.
> > >
> > > That's why POTA fandom will always be slipping backwards.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com <PotaDG% 40yahoogroups. com>, jessica rotich
> > > <jessicarotich@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That's what happens when there are so many alpha males and testosterone
> > > > gunning for each other...Each one wants to be top dog. Good idea to unite
> > > > all forces because after all, we are about world domination, right?
> > > >
> > > > XD
> > > >
>=2 0> > > Jess.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Good idea John
> > > > >
> > > > > Probably not a bad idea for fans to show some unity too.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's really embarrassing when I contact someone like Ty or the fellow
> > > who
> > > > > is doing the new "comic" (which he should have announced by now to be a
> > > > > Graphic Novel – here's an exclusive for your group James!), and they
> > > say
> > > > > other fans have warned them about me. It's just completely ridiculous,
> > > and
> > > > > very unprofessional. Makes us look like school kids.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think all the fanzines should promote each other equally, and promote
> > > the
> > > > > groups and other aspects of fandom (websites, publications etc) equally
> > > too.
> > > > >
> > > > > Would be a nice gesture if you and Dave rejoin the DG too John. I think
> > > the
> > > > > standards of SS have slipped,=2 0but that's just my humble opinion. But I
> > > still
> > > > > read Neil's copy and if I like it I'll but one. Nothing personal
> > > intended.
> > > > > And I should be able to state an opinion – as I'd welcome hearing
> > > feedback
> > > > > from you about the DG or the forthcoming fanzine.
> > > > >
> > > > > James – probably time for us to grow up and stop competing too. It's
> > > not
> > > > > healthy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups. com <pota% 40yahoogroups. com> <pota%
> > > 40yahoogroups. com>, "shanter2002" <john@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Neil, how's about Scrolls, Chronicles and Forbidden Zine all devote a
> > > > > page advertising the other two, so that fanzinedom is aware of the
> > > strength
> > > > > of Ape fandom and that it's strong enough to have three fanzines
> > > batting for
> > > > > it? We can send cover scans and details to one another and see where
> > > that
> > > > > ta kes us? What do you think? John, Scrolls.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote:

Bury in Greater Manchester, England?

Neil T. Foster

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:33 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

So cool. I would have given him the highest marks, too.

I know someone who lives in Bury!!

Jess.

On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote:

That reminds me of an assignment we had in English class at high school where we had to use clippings of photos from newspapers and magazines in a made up newspaper story. A good friend of mine cut up some of the Conquest photos (madness!) from the articles in the UK weekly comics and did a story about Apes taking over the town of Bury (where I lived). He actually got the highest mark in the class for it!

Neil T. Foster

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 6:52 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

Sorta the same with me – I loved SW but I think I was still into POTA because that only stopped in 1981 (I was still a fan but entered the High School arena so money was for booze, pot and chicks!).

I went to an ultra modern school in 1979 and 1980 where I could do projects on apes and POTA….pretty cool.

Michael

---

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Friday, 3 July 2009 6:29 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

Funny about Star Wars. I guess I was mostly over POTA by the time it came out but I did wag school with a good mate to see it's first showing at a cinema in Manchester and remember being totally blown away by it. Then I went a bit Star Wars mental but it never ended up becoming 'another Planet of the Apes'. I eventually 'came back' to POTA but have never had any long running interest in Star Wars.

My kids though would take ANY Star Wars movie over any Apes one. It's a crazy old world!

Neil T. Foster

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@...
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 3:18 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

I agree. let's declare war on the stormtroopers!!! Let us wipe out Star Wars!!!!

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: rassmguy <handleyr@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:08 am
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

I guess I'd better hide my complete Star Trek DVD and comic-book collection, then.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:
> I agree!!! Let's unite against the Trekkies! That oughta be lots of fun.
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@> wrote:
> >
> > What we need is a common enemy. That should unite all fronts. POTA fandom
> > needs to work together, now more than ever, as we dwindle in number.
> >
> > Jess.
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Michael W hitty <sallywhitty@>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > It will never happen Jess.
> > >
> > > Not with POTA.
> > >
> > > James is so scared of a challenge he hasn't even allowed my post to go
> > > through on his group.
> > >
> > > Some things never change.
> > >
> > > Sadly, for some people it is all about promoting THEMSELVES, and being able
> > > to make claims (like James says Battle was cut to get more showings in a
> > > given day) with no evidence and get away with it.
> > >
> > > Pathetic.
> > >
> > > That's why POTA fandom will always be slipping backwards.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <PotaDG% 40yahoogroups.com>, jessica rotich
> > > <jessicarotich@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That's what happens when there are so many alpha males and testosterone
> > > > gunning for each other...Each one wants to be top dog. Good idea to unite
> > > > all forces because after all, we are about world domination, right?
> > > >
> > > > XD
> > > >
>=2 0> > > Jess.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Good idea John
> > > > >
> > > > > Probably not a bad idea for fans to show some unity too.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's really embarrassing when I contact someone like Ty or the fellow
> > > who
> > > > > is doing the new "comic" (which he should have announced by now to be a
> > > > > Graphic Novel – here's an exclusive for your group James!), and they
> > > say
> > > > > other fans have warned them about me. It's just completely ridiculous,
> > > and
> > > > > very unprofessional. Makes us look like school kids.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think all the fanzines should promote each other equally, and promote
> > > the
> > > > > groups and other aspects of fandom (websites, publications etc) equally
> > > too.
> > > > >
> > > > > Would be a nice gesture if you and Dave rejoin the DG too John. I think
> > > the
> > > > > standards of SS have slipped,=2 0but that's just my humble opinion. But I
> > > still
> > > > > read Neil's copy and if I like it I'll but one. Nothing personal
> > > intended.
> > > > > And I should be able to state an opinion – as I'd welcome hearing
> > > feedback
> > > > > from you about the DG or the forthcoming fanzine.
> > > > >
> > > > > James – probably time for us to grow up and stop competing too. It's
> > > not
> > > > > healthy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com <pota% 40yahoogroups.com> <pota%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com>, "shanter2002" <john@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Neil, how's about Scrolls, Chronicles and Forbidden Zine all devote a
> > > > > page advertising the other two, so that fanzinedom is aware of the
> > > strength
> > > > > of Ape fandom and that it's strong enough to have three fanzines
> > > batting for
> > > > > it? We can send cover scans and details to one another and see where
> > > that
> > > > > ta kes us? What do you think? John, Scrolls.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:42 PM, jessica rotich < jessicarotich@...> wrote:

Yes.

On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote:

Bury in Greater Manchester, England?

Neil T. Foster

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:33 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

So cool. I would have given him the highest marks, too.

I know someone who lives in Bury!!

Jess.

On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote:

That reminds me of an assignment we had in English class at high school where we had to use clippings of photos from newspapers and magazines in a made up newspaper story. A good friend of mine cut up some of the Conquest photos (madness!) from the articles in the UK weekly comics and did a story about Apes taking over the town of Bury (where I lived). He actually got the highest mark in the class for it!

Neil T. Foster

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 6:52 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

Sorta the same with me – I loved SW but I think I was still into POTA because that only stopped in 1981 (I was still a fan but entered the High School arena so money was for booze, pot and chicks!).

I went to an ultra modern school in 1979 and 1980 where I could do projects on apes and POTA….pretty cool.

Michael

---

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Friday, 3 July 2009 6:29 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

Funny about Star Wars. I guess I was mostly over POTA by the time it came out but I did wag school with a good mate to see it's first showing at a cinema in Manchester and remember being totally blown away by it. Then I went a bit Star Wars mental but it never ended up becoming 'another Planet of the Apes'. I eventually 'came back' to POTA but have never had any long running interest in Star Wars.

My kids though would take ANY Star Wars movie over any Apes one. It's a crazy old world!

Neil T. Foster

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@...
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 3:18 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

I agree. let's declare war on the stormtroopers!!! Let us wipe out Star Wars!!!!

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: rassmguy <handleyr@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:08 am
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

I guess I'd better hide my complete Star Trek DVD and comic-book collection, then.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:
> I agree!!! Let's unite against the Trekkies! That oughta be lots of fun.
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@> wrote:
> >
> > What we need is a common enemy. That should unite all fronts. POTA fandom
> > needs to work together, now more than ever, as we dwindle in number.
> >
> > Jess.
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Michael W hitty <sallywhitty@>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > It will never happen Jess.
> > >
> > > Not with POTA.
> > >
> > > James is so scared of a challenge he hasn't even allowed my post to go
> > > through on his group.
> > >
> > > Some things never change.
> > >
> > > Sadly, for some people it is all about promoting THEMSELVES, and being able
> > > to make claims (like James says Battle was cut to get more showings in a
> > > given day) with no evidence and get away with it.
> > >
> > > Pathetic.
> > >
> > > That's why POTA fandom will always be slipping backwards.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <PotaDG% 40yahoogroups.com>, jessica rotich
> > > <jessicarotich@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That's what happens when there are so many alpha males and testosterone
> > > > gunning for each other...Each one wants to be top dog. Good idea to unite
> > > > all forces because after all, we are about world domination, right?
> > > >
> > > > XD
> > > >
>=2 0> > > Jess.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Good idea John
> > > > >
> > > > > Probably not a bad idea for fans to show some unity too.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's really embarrassing when I contact someone like Ty or the fellow
> > > who
> > > > > is doing the new "comic" (which he should have announced by now to be a
> > > > > Graphic Novel – here's an exclusive for your group James!), and they
> > > say
> > > > > other fans have warned them about me. It's just completely ridiculous,
> > > and
> > > > > very unprofessional. Makes us look like school kids.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think all the fanzines should promote each other equally, and promote
> > > the
> > > > > groups and other aspects of fandom (websites, publications etc) equally
> > > too.
> > > > >
> > > > > Would be a nice gesture if you and Dave rejoin the DG too John. I think
> > > the
> > > > > standards of SS have slipped,=2 0but that's just my humble opinion. But I
> > > still
> > > > > read Neil's copy and if I like it I'll but one. Nothing personal
> > > intended.
> > > > > And I should be able to state an opinion – as I'd welcome hearing
> > > feedback
> > > > > from you about the DG or the forthcoming fanzine.
> > > > >
> > > > > James – probably time for us to grow up and stop competing too. It's
> > > not
> > > > > healthy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com <pota% 40yahoogroups.com> <pota%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com>, "shanter2002" <john@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Neil, how's about Scrolls, Chronicles and Forbidden Zine all devote a
> > > > > page advertising the other two, so that fanzinedom is aware of the
> > > strength
> > > > > of Ape fandom and that it's strong enough to have three fanzines
> > > batting for
> > > > > it? We can send cover scans and details to one another and see where
> > > that
> > > > > ta kes us? What do you think? John, Scrolls.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:44 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

My sister in law lives there!  The first and last time I was in Manchester was 10 years ago. 

Jess.

On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:42 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:

Yes.

On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@bigpond. com> wrote:

Bury in Greater Manchester, England?

 

Neil T. Foster

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:33 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

So cool.  I would have given him the highest marks, too.

I know someone who lives in Bury!!

Jess.

On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@bigpond. com> wrote:

That reminds me of an assignment we had in English class at high school where we had to use clippings of photos from newspapers and magazines in a made up newspaper story. A good friend of mine cut up some of the Conquest photos (madness!) from the articles in the UK weekly comics and did a story about Apes taking over the town of Bury (where I lived). He actually got the highest mark in the class for it!

 

Neil T. Foster

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 6:52 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

Sorta the same with me – I loved SW but I think I was still into POTA because that only stopped in 1981 (I was still a fan but entered the High School arena so money was for booze, pot and chicks!).

I went to an ultra modern school in 1979 and 1980 where I could do projects on apes and POTA….pretty cool.

Michael

---

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Friday, 3 July 2009 6:29 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

Funny about Star Wars. I guess I was mostly over POTA by the time it came out but I did wag school with a good mate to see it's first showing at a cinema in Manchester and remember being totally blown away by it. Then I went a bit Star Wars mental but it never ended up becoming 'another Planet of the Apes'. I eventually 'came back' to POTA but have never had any long running interest in Star Wars.

My kids though would take ANY Star Wars movie over any Apes one. It's a crazy old world!

Neil T. Foster

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@aol. com
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 3:18 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

I agree. let's declare war on the stormtroopers! !! Let us wipe out Star Wars!!!!

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: rassmguy <handleyr@optonline. net>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:08 am
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

I guess I'd better hide my complete Star Trek DVD and comic-book collection, then.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@ ...> wrote:
> I agree!!! Let's unite against the Trekkies! That oughta be lots of fun.
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@> wrote:
> >
> > What we need is a common enemy. That should unite all fronts. POTA fandom
> > needs to work together, now more than ever, as we dwindle in number.
> >
> > Jess.
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Michael W hitty <sallywhitty@>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > It will never happen Jess.
> > >
> > > Not with POTA.
> > >
> > > James is so scared of a challenge he hasn't even allowed my post to go
> > > through on his group.
> > >
> > > Some things never change.
> > >
> > > Sadly, for some people it is all about promoting THEMSELVES, and being able
> > > to make claims (like James says Battle was cut to get more showings in a
> > > given day) with no evidence and get away with it.
> > >
> > > Pathetic.
> > >
> > > That's why POTA fandom will always be slipping backwards.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com <PotaDG%40yahoogroups. com >, jessica rotich
> > > <jessicarotich@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That's what happens when there are so many alpha males and testosterone
> > > > gunning for each other...Each one wants to be top dog. Good idea to unite
> > > > all forces because after all, we are about world domination, right?
> > > >
> > > > XD
> > > >
>=2 0> > > Jess.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Good idea John
> > > > >
> > > > > Probably not a bad idea for fans to show some unity too.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's really embarrassing when I contact someone like Ty or the fellow
> > > who
> > > > > is doing the new "comic" (which he should have announced by now to be a
> > > > > Graphic Novel – here's an exclusive for your group James!), and they
> > > say
> > > > > other fans have warned them about me. It's just completely ridiculous,
> > > and
> > > > > very unprofessional. Makes us look like school kids.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think all the fanzines should promote each other equally, and promote
> > > the
> > > > > groups and other aspects of fandom (websites, publications etc) equally
> > > too.
> > > > >
> > > > > Would be a nice gesture if you and Dave rejoin the DG too John. I think
> > > the
> > > > > standards of SS have slipped,=2 0but that's just my humble opinion. But I
> > > still
> > > > > read Neil's copy and if I like it I'll but one. Nothing personal
> > > intended.
> > > > > And I should be able to state an opinion – as I'd welcome hearing
> > > feedback
> > > > > from you about the DG or the forthcoming fanzine.
> > > > >
> > > > > James – probably time for us to grow up and stop competing too. It's
> > > not
> > > > > healthy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups. com <pota% 40yahoogroups. com> <pota%
> > > 40yahoogroups. com>, "shanter2002" <john@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Neil, how's about Scrolls, Chronicles and Forbidden Zine all devote a
> > > > > page advertising the other two, so that fanzinedom is aware of the
> > > strength
> > > > > of Ape fandom and that it's strong enough to have three fanzines
> > > batting for
> > > > > it? We can send cover scans and details to one another and see where
> > > that
> > > > > ta kes us? What do you think? John, Scrolls.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:30 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG

No, I've never seen his MP illustrations.  Where can I find them?

On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:46 AM, Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@dodo. com.au> wrote:

Not bad at all.

 

Jess – have you seen Neil’s MP illustrations?

 

---

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
Sent: Tuesday, 7 July 2009 1:46 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG

 

Thank you for sharing these.  They were quite fantastic!

 

Jess.

On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 7:33 PM, John <DrZaiusDavis@ aol.com> wrote:

 

Did he just copy a picture from Lancelot Link & publish it in a novel?

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, PotaDG@yahoogroups. com wrote:
>
>
> Hello,
>
> This email message is a notification to let you know that
> a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
> group.
>
> File : /La Planete des Singes artwork/POTA French 71 Hardcover 22.jpg

> Uploaded by : munkeyman63au <ntfoster@...>

> Description :
>
> You can access this file at the URL:
> http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/PotaDG/ files/La% 20Planete% 20des%20Singes% 20artwork/ POTA%20French% 2071%20Hardcover %2022.jpg
>
> To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
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> Regards,
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> munkeyman63au <ntfoster@...>
>

 

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> They weren't in the files section anymore so I have created a folder
> named:
> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Monkey%20Planet%20Ill
> ustrations/> Monkey Planet Illustrations
>
> And whilst uploading them I noticed that I did these 5 years ago!
> Sheesh, time just flies by!
>
> Neil T. Foster
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
> Of jessica rotich
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:30 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
>
>
>
>
>
> No, I've never seen his MP illustrations. Where can I find them?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:46 AM, Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@dodo.
> <mailto:mswhitty@...> com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Not bad at all.
>
>
>
> Jess - have you seen Neil's MP illustrations?
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
>
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> com] On
> Behalf Of jessica rotich
> Sent: Tuesday, 7 July 2009 1:46 PM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thank you for sharing these. They were quite fantastic!
>
>
>
> Jess.
>
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 7:33 PM, John <DrZaiusDavis@
> <mailto:DrZaiusDavis@...> aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Did he just copy a picture from Lancelot Link & publish it in a novel?
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com,
> PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > This email message is a notification to let you know that
> > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
> > group.
> >
> > File : /La Planete des Singes artwork/POTA French 71 Hardcover 22.jpg
>
> > Uploaded by : munkeyman63au <ntfoster@>
>
> > Description :
> >
> > You can access this file at the URL:
> > http://groups.
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/La%20Planete%20des%20Singes%
> 20artwork/POTA%20French%2071%20Hardcover%2022.jpg>
> yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/La%20Planete%20des%20Singes%20artwork/POTA%
> 20French%2071%20Hardcover%2022.jpg
> >
> > To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
> > http://help.
> <http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.htmlbr> > files> yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.htmliles
> >
> > Regards,
> >
>
> > munkeyman63au <ntfoster@>
> >
>

On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Michael Whitty <mswhitty@... > wrote:

I'd actually forgotten how good these were!

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "Neil Foster" <ntfoster@...> wrote:
>
> They weren't in the files section anymore so I have created a folder
> named:

> <http://movies.groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/Monkey%20Planet%20Ill
> ustrations/> Monkey Planet Illustrations

>
> And whilst uploading them I noticed that I did these 5 years ago!
> Sheesh, time just flies by!
>
> Neil T. Foster
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf
> Of jessica rotich
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:30 AM
> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
>
>
>
>
>
> No, I've never seen his MP illustrations. Where can I find them?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 1:46 AM, Michael & Sally Whitty <mswhitty@dodo.

> <mailto:mswhitty@...> com.au> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Not bad at all.
>
>
>
> Jess - have you seen Neil's MP illustrations?
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
>

> From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> com
> [PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG@yahoogroups.com > com] On

> Behalf Of jessica rotich
> Sent: Tuesday, 7 July 2009 1:46 PM

> To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com> com

> Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: New file uploaded to PotaDG
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thank you for sharing these. They were quite fantastic!
>
>
>
> Jess.
>
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 7:33 PM, John <DrZaiusDavis@

> <mailto:DrZaiusDavis@...> aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Did he just copy a picture from Lancelot Link & publish it in a novel?
>
>
>

> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com,

> PotaDG@yahoogroups. <mailto:PotaDG%40yahoogroups.com> com wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > This email message is a notification to let you know that
> > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the PotaDG
> > group.
> >
> > File : /La Planete des Singes artwork/POTA French 71 Hardcover 22.jpg
>
> > Uploaded by : munkeyman63au <ntfoster@>
>
> > Description :
> >
> > You can access this file at the URL:
> > http://groups.
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/La%20Planete%20des%20Singes%
> 20artwork/POTA%20French%2071%20Hardcover%2022.jpg>
> yahoo.com/group/PotaDG/files/La%20Planete%20des%20Singes%20artwork/POTA%
> 20French%2071%20Hardcover%2022.jpg
> >
> > To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:
> > http://help.
> < http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.html"

> files> yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/groups/original/members/web/index.htmliles
> >
> > Regards,
> >
>
> > munkeyman63au <ntfoster@>
> >
>

----- Original Message -----

From: jessica rotich

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 4:06 PM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

Small world indeed, but where the heck have all the apes gone?  I still haven't encountered any on my side of the pond.  And I'm still looking, even though I may not like what I find...

Jess.

On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@bigpond. com> wrote:

Wow small world. A lot of my relatives used to live there and in Bolton as well but most are gone now.

 

Neil T. Foster

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of jessica rotich

Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:44 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

My sister in law lives there!  The first and last time I was in Manchester was 10 years ago. 

Jess.

On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:42 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@ gmail.com> wrote:

Yes.

On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@bigpond. com> wrote:

Bury in Greater Manchester, England?

 

Neil T. Foster

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:33 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

So cool.  I would have given him the highest marks, too.

I know someone who lives in Bury!!

Jess.

On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@bigpond. com> wrote:

That reminds me of an assignment we had in English class at high school where we had to use clippings of photos from newspapers and magazines in a made up newspaper story. A good friend of mine cut up some of the Conquest photos (madness!) from the articles in the UK weekly comics and did a story about Apes taking over the town of Bury (where I lived). He actually got the highest mark in the class for it!

 

Neil T. Foster

 

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 6:52 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

Sorta the same with me – I loved SW but I think I was still into POTA because that only stopped in 1981 (I was still a fan but entered the High School arena so money was for booze, pot and chicks!).

I went to an ultra modern school in 1979 and 1980 where I could do projects on apes and POTA….pretty cool.

Michael

---

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Friday, 3 July 2009 6:29 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

Funny about Star Wars. I guess I was mostly over POTA by the time it came out but I did wag school with a good mate to see it's first showing at a cinema in Manchester and remember being totally blown away by it. Then I went a bit Star Wars mental but it never ended up becoming 'another Planet of the Apes'. I eventually 'came back' to POTA but have never had any long running interest in Star Wars.

My kids though would take ANY Star Wars movie over any Apes one. It's a crazy old world!

Neil T. Foster

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@aol. com
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 3:18 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

I agree. let's declare war on the stormtroopers! !! Let us wipe out Star Wars!!!!

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: rassmguy <handleyr@optonline. net>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:08 am
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

I guess I'd better hide my complete Star Trek DVD and comic-book collection, then.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@ ...> wrote:
> I agree!!! Let's unite against the Trekkies! That oughta be lots of fun.
>
>
>
> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@> wrote:
> >
> > What we need is a common enemy. That should unite all fronts. POTA fandom
> > needs to work together, now more than ever, as we dwindle in number.
> >
> > Jess.
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Michael W hitty <sallywhitty@>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > It will never happen Jess.
> > >
> > > Not with POTA.
> > >
> > > James is so scared of a challenge he hasn't even allowed my post to go
> > > through on his group.
> > >
> > > Some things never change.
> > >
> > > Sadly, for some people it is all about promoting THEMSELVES, and being able
> > > to make claims (like James says Battle was cut to get more showings in a
> > > given day) with no evidence and get away with it.
> > >
> > > Pathetic.
> > >
> > > That's why POTA fandom will always be slipping backwards.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups. com <PotaDG% 40yahoogroups. com>, jessica rotich
> > > <jessicarotich@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That's what happens when there are so many alpha males and testosterone
> > > > gunning for each other...Each one wants to be top dog. Good idea to unite
> > > > all forces because after all, we are about world domination, right?
> > > >
> > > > XD
> > > >
>=2 0> > > Jess.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Good idea John
> > > > >
> > > > > Probably not a bad idea for fans to show some unity too.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's really embarrassing when I contact someone like Ty or the fellow
> > > who
> > > > > is doing the new "comic" (which he should have announced by now to be a
> > > > > Graphic Novel – here's an exclusive for your group James!), and they
> > > say
> > > > > other fans have warned them about me. It's just completely ridiculous,
> > > and
> > > > > very unprofessional. Makes us look like school kids.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think all the fanzines should promote each other equally, and promote
> > > the
> > > > > groups and other aspects of fandom (websites, publications etc) equally
> > > too.
> > > > >
> > > > > Would be a nice gesture if you and Dave rejoin the DG too John. I think
> > > the
> > > > > standards of SS have slipped,=2 0but that's just my humble opinion. But I
> > > still
> > > > > read Neil's copy and if I like it I'll but one. Nothing personal
> > > intended.
> > > > > And I should be able to state an opinion – as I'd welcome hearing
> > > feedback
> > > > > from you about the DG or the forthcoming fanzine.
> > > > >
> > > > > James – probably time for us to grow up and stop competing too. It's
> > > not
> > > > > healthy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups. com <pota% 40yahoogroups. com> <pota%
> > > 40yahoogroups. com>, "shanter2002" <john@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Neil, how's about Scrolls, Chronicles and Forbidden Zine all devote a
> > > > > page advertising the other two, so that fanzinedom is aware of the
> > > strength
> > > > > of Ape fandom and that it's strong enough to have three fanzines
> > > batting for
> > > > > it? We can send cover scans and details to one another and see where
> > > that
> > > > > ta kes us? What do you think? John, Scrolls.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 9:25 PM, Jeff <skintricks@... > wrote:

You keep forgetting me. Even though I'm 10+ hours south of you, I'm on this "side of the pond"

Jeff B

----- Original Message -----

From: jessica rotich

To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 4:06 PM

Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

Small world indeed, but where the heck have all the apes gone? I still haven't encountered any on my side of the pond. And I'm still looking, even though I may not like what I find...

Jess.

On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote:

Wow small world. A lot of my relatives used to live there and in Bolton as well but most are gone now.

Neil T. Foster

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jessica rotich

Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:44 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

My sister in law lives there! The first and last time I was in Manchester was 10 years ago.

Jess.

On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:42 PM, jessica rotich <jessicarotich@...> wrote:

Yes.

On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote:

Bury in Greater Manchester, England?

Neil T. Foster

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of jessica rotich
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 8:33 AM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

So cool. I would have given him the highest marks, too.

I know someone who lives in Bury!!

Jess.

On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Neil Foster <ntfoster@...> wrote:

That reminds me of an assignment we had in English class at high school where we had to use clippings of photos from newspapers and magazines in a made up newspaper story. A good friend of mine cut up some of the Conquest photos (madness!) from the articles in the UK weekly comics and did a story about Apes taking over the town of Bury (where I lived). He actually got the highest mark in the class for it!

Neil T. Foster

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [ PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Michael & Sally Whitty
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 6:52 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

Sorta the same with me – I loved SW but I think I was still into POTA because that only stopped in 1981 (I was still a fan but entered the High School arena so money was for booze, pot and chicks!).

I went to an ultra modern school in 1979 and 1980 where I could do projects on apes and POTA….pretty cool.

Michael

---

From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Neil Foster
Sent: Friday, 3 July 2009 6:29 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

Funny about Star Wars. I guess I was mostly over POTA by the time it came out but I did wag school with a good mate to see it's first showing at a cinema in Manchester and remember being totally blown away by it. Then I went a bit Star Wars mental but it never ended up becoming 'another Planet of the Apes'. I eventually 'came back' to POTA but have never had any long running interest in Star Wars.

My kids though would take ANY Star Wars movie over any Apes one. It's a crazy old world!

Neil T. Foster

-----Original Message-----
From: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com [PotaDG@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of PofTAfan@...
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 3:18 PM
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

I agree. let's declare war on the stormtroopers!!! Let us wipe out Star Wars!!!!

Kevin

-----Original Message-----
From: rassmguy <handleyr@...>
To: PotaDG@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Jul 3, 2009 1:08 am
Subject: [PotaDG] Re: Fanzine Federation

I guess I'd better hide my complete Star Trek DVD and comic-book collection, then.

--- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com, "John" <DrZaiusDavis@...> wrote:
> I agree!!! Let's unite against the Trekkies! That oughta be lots of fun.
>
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> --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com , jessica rotich <jessicarotich@> wrote:
> >
> > What we need is a common enemy. That should unite all fronts. POTA fandom
> > needs to work together, now more than ever, as we dwindle in number.
> >
> > Jess.
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Michael W hitty <sallywhitty@>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > It will never happen Jess.
> > >
> > > Not with POTA.
> > >
> > > James is so scared of a challenge he hasn't even allowed my post to go
> > > through on his group.
> > >
> > > Some things never change.
> > >
> > > Sadly, for some people it is all about promoting THEMSELVES, and being able
> > > to make claims (like James says Battle was cut to get more showings in a
> > > given day) with no evidence and get away with it.
> > >
> > > Pathetic.
> > >
> > > That's why POTA fandom will always be slipping backwards.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > --- In PotaDG@yahoogroups.com <PotaDG% 40yahoogroups.com>, jessica rotich
> > > <jessicarotich@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > That's what happens when there are so many alpha males and testosterone
> > > > gunning for each other...Each one wants to be top dog. Good idea to unite
> > > > all forces because after all, we are about world domination, right?
> > > >
> > > > XD
> > > >
>=2 0> > > Jess.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Michael Whitty <sallywhitty@>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Good idea John
> > > > >
> > > > > Probably not a bad idea for fans to show some unity too.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's really embarrassing when I contact someone like Ty or the fellow
> > > who
> > > > > is doing the new "comic" (which he should have announced by now to be a
> > > > > Graphic Novel – here's an exclusive for your group James!), and they
> > > say
> > > > > other fans have warned them about me. It's just completely ridiculous,
> > > and
> > > > > very unprofessional. Makes us look like school kids.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think all the fanzines should promote each other equally, and promote
> > > the
> > > > > groups and other aspects of fandom (websites, publications etc) equally
> > > too.
> > > > >
> > > > > Would be a nice gesture if you and Dave rejoin the DG too John. I think
> > > the
> > > > > standards of SS have slipped,=2 0but that's just my humble opinion. But I
> > > still
> > > > > read Neil's copy and if I like it I'll but one. Nothing personal
> > > intended.
> > > > > And I should be able to state an opinion – as I'd welcome hearing
> > > feedback
> > > > > from you about the DG or the forthcoming fanzine.
> > > > >
> > > > > James – probably time for us to grow up and stop competing too. It's
> > > not
> > > > > healthy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In pota@yahoogroups.com <pota% 40yahoogroups.com> <pota%
> > > 40yahoogroups.com>, "shanter2002" <john@>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Neil, how's about Scrolls, Chronicles and Forbidden Zine all devote a
> > > > > page advertising the other two, so that fanzinedom is aware of the
> > > strength
> > > > > of Ape fandom and that it's strong enough to have three fanzines
> > > batting for
> > > > > it? We can send cover scans and details to one another and see where
> > > that
> > > > > ta kes us? What do you think? John, Scrolls.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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